I have to commend Jared and Jordanna for how well they handled this conversation. No one likes to be talked AT instead of to. Not to mention Mel kept cutting them off to say the same thing over and over again. And the “thing” she kept repeating was just a different way of saying “have your own standards” which J&J remind their audience to do often. A.k.a., none of this is new information for us long-term listeners. Lastly, Mel insulted Jared on quite a few occasions. With all that said, J&J carried the conversation with patience, poise, and class. Love you guys as always ❤
“Just let them” was such a great line. The reality is, people receive certain deliveries of messages differently. She hits a certain demographic of your audience how she’s needs to hit them and some it may not work for but that means the messages wasn’t for them. Loved this sessions and it’s one that definitely hit for me so god speed!
Love your comment and I appreciate the nuance in it. You're right, different advice and framing will work for some and not others. It didn't work for me, but I'm glad the advice helped you. 🎉
Having flashbacks of the awful Nancy Jo episode. Very tough to get through. J&J tried several times to prompt a thoughtful discussion but Nancy Jr only wanted to hear herself talk and refused to have her “advice” compared to other similar ideas.
@@alainajacobs7838 right? rather than Mel going for a “yes, and…” to create bridges between similar ideas or pointing out what she sees as important nuanced differences, she was just dismissive and tbh borderline combative
I don’t think her “let them” theory is as revelatory as Mel thinks. Jordana and Jared made a lot of good points and Mel dismissed them. I’d take advice from J and J over Mel any day
This episode had some truth and some delusion to it. I think the overall point of Mel advising people to let people be who they are and not change them or hope that they will change is true. However, I don't think she is in touch with today's dating culture. Her entire theory is based off her son's prom, not even her own dating experience. It is also patronizing when people say we are being too picky when we have standards, especially when they are not even dating themselves. She verbatim states that finding a partner is the "single most important thing" which I think is wrong. Finding and having a partner is important if that is what someone wants but it shouldn't be someone's entire identity.
I appreciate what she’s got to say and understand the concepts. I do agree in that it’s not revolutionary, and felt a little preachy to J & J. Can see Jared actively try to lighten the energy with jokes throughout but she was not having it 😂 still enjoyed this, feels like she wasn’t aware this is a relationship AND comedy type pod. No hate though!! Solid guest for you too!!
Oh Jared, LET THEM! You give your power away to other people by thinking “oh what are they gunna think of me, how is this going to affect my public image (which I totally get), what if I hurt them.” Don’t worry about being a people pleaser and LISTEN TO MEL AND FREAKING LET THEM! Be proud of yourself, know who you are and just BE YOU!!! Yes lots of women want to date you, but date yourself and get comfortable being who you are and just LET THEM Great episode guys, love you as always ❤
The only part that was bearable for me was the part after 41:58 because she made an assessment after actually asking some questions and was actually talking *to* Jared (not at him). The rest of the podcast was unbearable because she's preaching, not listening, and just waiting to speak.
I don’t think this was tough to listen to at all. I think Jared has some deep work he is avoiding and putting a lot of expectations on everyone else and himself instead of being able to be present and fully embodied in his desire to find the person he wants to be with. He is sooo in his head, I don’t know how he will be able to connect with anyone unless he gets out of his head and into his body to truly connect to his feelings on dates.
I agree! She was brutally honest with him! I’ve seen lots of her interviews with other podcasts and this was my favorite ❤️ for her book tour. It’s our life and we can be as happy or as miserable as we want. Pick out hard. Some people are not into us and nextttt! Life is too short!
@@laurag7530 it isn't mean at all to ask a question! 🙂 I appreciate the curiosity. I stated "fully embodied" meaning fully present in his body when on dates or getting to know others... instead of being in his head perpetually overthinking, as he often speaks about doing. Also embodied as in confident in what he wants, which he says in this episode is marriage and kids. But when he said that, his tone and response felt very different, like he was suddenly more quiet and unsure of himself. He didn't seem to embody a person who truly wants marriage and kids, based on his response. Not to say he doesn't, but something shifted. Hope this makes a little more sense. 🥰
@@caryreyes7571 Yesss to choosing your hard!! What soo many people don't realize is taking the "easy road" now of not putting in effort in whatever area of life you know you're avoiding (for example, doing the inner work and healing, or prioritizing your physical health, as many people avoid these two lol), leads to a very difficult reckoning with yourself later. Reckon with yourself now and do it intentionally, you will give yourself a more promising opportunity for true fulfillment and peace later on in life. 💞
Mel was brutally honest and spot on giving a perspective that actually gives back control to the individual. Her advice is super practical and realistic IMO. I think the negative comments are because of her kind of anxious delivery (which might be related to her ADHD - which she mentioned). If you can get past her tone, the words and advice is pretty good.
I loved this episode! I'm surprised to see in the comments that no everyone did 😮 I loved the assertive attitude! I needed to hear it since I've been stressed out at work because of a new employee's behavior 😅 I'll remind myself from now on to "let them"😊
Gotta say.. I get what Mel is saying 1000%. I think she's thinking about dating in a dynamic way, while I also got J&J wanted to have the benefit of the doubt, but her POV is very non gen-z / millennial so that might be the disconnect. I have had a similar approach to dating lately because I studied consumer behaviour + always been introspective. Patterns dont lie! PD: Loveed the ep, rebuttal questions & insights!
This was seriously one of the best guests you've ever had on! "Let them" is a great theory to take them into dating. I came to the conclusion a year or two ago that there was no confusion in dating, and that we just asked questions to try to get people to validate us and tell us things aren't wonky when we know deep down they are.
lol yikes this was worse than I thought - hard to listen to her but like others have said I watch the pod for Jared and Jordana's sage and NUANCED advice which was lacking here. Love you J&J!
This guest thinks she’s got some great insights and she doesn’t. Yikes. She sounds like a bully and does not have an ability to listen. Blah 😑 super turned off by her personality
I follow Mel but have only ever listened to one of her podcast episodes, the format was a whole hour of just her speaking and I found it wasn’t for me. Here, I think her delivery is hard to digest because she may be used to only having herself talk, so she cuts others off to interject her thoughts, frequently! (Also she’s stated she has ADHD, maybe this impels her to do it immediately.) Anyway she often has great nuggets of insight, but I think she was a little too confident in delivering some of her takes that just seemed not to be grounded in reality. No fault of her own, I think she hasn’t been single in decades, but she definitely didn’t need to cut J&J off to share some of those takes it got to be annoying. The theory itself is funny to me because I don’t like confrontation or stress (I know duh) and so subconsciously have followed this approach most of my life, I’m sure I’m not alone but funny to hear it touted like something new. Although some of her takes with it seem to veer into really selfish perspectives, not for me but ‘let her’.
It was tough to listen to this guest. From the very beginning, with her “thank you for inviting me,” it felt off, especially knowing her team has likely been reaching out to every podcast asking for her to be on.
the irony of comments saying that mel was “speaking at” or dominating the conversation when that is precisely what Jared does to Jordana every other episode 🫠
I feel like a lot of her principles are the same/similar to what J & J have said in the past but she’s twisting it saying it in a way that comes off as “I’m right, your wrong, my advice is superior.”
.. And one more thing 😂😂 Im getting the vibe that her “let them” energy has turned into repressed emotions that she then word vomits all over platforms
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I have to commend Jared and Jordanna for how well they handled this conversation. No one likes to be talked AT instead of to. Not to mention Mel kept cutting them off to say the same thing over and over again. And the “thing” she kept repeating was just a different way of saying “have your own standards” which J&J remind their audience to do often. A.k.a., none of this is new information for us long-term listeners. Lastly, Mel insulted Jared on quite a few occasions. With all that said, J&J carried the conversation with patience, poise, and class. Love you guys as always ❤
“Just let them” was such a great line. The reality is, people receive certain deliveries of messages differently. She hits a certain demographic of your audience how she’s needs to hit them and some it may not work for but that means the messages wasn’t for them.
Loved this sessions and it’s one that definitely hit for me so god speed!
Love your comment and I appreciate the nuance in it. You're right, different advice and framing will work for some and not others. It didn't work for me, but I'm glad the advice helped you. 🎉
if your podcast guest wants to pass off common sense advice as something revelatory, talking at you instead of with you, LET THEM!
Having flashbacks of the awful Nancy Jo episode. Very tough to get through. J&J tried several times to prompt a thoughtful discussion but Nancy Jr only wanted to hear herself talk and refused to have her “advice” compared to other similar ideas.
Totally. She’s got a very know-it-all mentality. It wasn’t a discussion
@@ZazaLynnright?! Felt like a preacher
@@alainajacobs7838 right? rather than Mel going for a “yes, and…” to create bridges between similar ideas or pointing out what she sees as important nuanced differences, she was just dismissive and tbh borderline combative
She was so focused on pushing her book title that she dismissed some really valuable feedback from J&J. Reveal>let them
We love you guys hence why we prefer listening to you talk rather than a preach of someone who’s not relatable at all 🤷🏻♀️
100% agree. Please never have her back on. It was just a soliloquy of nonsense.
@ it was my nice way of saying exactly that 🤣
I don’t think her “let them” theory is as revelatory as Mel thinks. Jordana and Jared made a lot of good points and Mel dismissed them. I’d take advice from J and J over Mel any day
She overinflates it by even calling it a "theory". Theories try to explain why something happens, her "theory" is just her suggestion lol
Agreed. I've been ignoring this lady for so long. Not a theory.
This episode had some truth and some delusion to it. I think the overall point of Mel advising people to let people be who they are and not change them or hope that they will change is true. However, I don't think she is in touch with today's dating culture. Her entire theory is based off her son's prom, not even her own dating experience. It is also patronizing when people say we are being too picky when we have standards, especially when they are not even dating themselves. She verbatim states that finding a partner is the "single most important thing" which I think is wrong. Finding and having a partner is important if that is what someone wants but it shouldn't be someone's entire identity.
I appreciate what she’s got to say and understand the concepts. I do agree in that it’s not revolutionary, and felt a little preachy to J & J. Can see Jared actively try to lighten the energy with jokes throughout but she was not having it 😂 still enjoyed this, feels like she wasn’t aware this is a relationship AND comedy type pod. No hate though!! Solid guest for you too!!
Oh Jared, LET THEM! You give your power away to other people by thinking “oh what are they gunna think of me, how is this going to affect my public image (which I totally get), what if I hurt them.” Don’t worry about being a people pleaser and LISTEN TO MEL AND FREAKING LET THEM! Be proud of yourself, know who you are and just BE YOU!!! Yes lots of women want to date you, but date yourself and get comfortable being who you are and just LET THEM
Great episode guys, love you as always ❤
The only part that was bearable for me was the part after 41:58 because she made an assessment after actually asking some questions and was actually talking *to* Jared (not at him). The rest of the podcast was unbearable because she's preaching, not listening, and just waiting to speak.
I don’t think this was tough to listen to at all. I think Jared has some deep work he is avoiding and putting a lot of expectations on everyone else and himself instead of being able to be present and fully embodied in his desire to find the person he wants to be with. He is sooo in his head, I don’t know how he will be able to connect with anyone unless he gets out of his head and into his body to truly connect to his feelings on dates.
I agree! She was brutally honest with him! I’ve seen lots of her interviews with other podcasts and this was my favorite ❤️ for her book tour. It’s our life and we can be as happy or as miserable as we want. Pick out hard. Some people are not into us and nextttt! Life is too short!
What does this mean? Fully embodied in his desire to find someone? Truly asking because I don't understand, not trying to be rude. Ty 🙏🏻❤️
@@laurag7530 it isn't mean at all to ask a question! 🙂 I appreciate the curiosity. I stated "fully embodied" meaning fully present in his body when on dates or getting to know others... instead of being in his head perpetually overthinking, as he often speaks about doing. Also embodied as in confident in what he wants, which he says in this episode is marriage and kids. But when he said that, his tone and response felt very different, like he was suddenly more quiet and unsure of himself. He didn't seem to embody a person who truly wants marriage and kids, based on his response. Not to say he doesn't, but something shifted. Hope this makes a little more sense. 🥰
@@caryreyes7571 Yesss to choosing your hard!! What soo many people don't realize is taking the "easy road" now of not putting in effort in whatever area of life you know you're avoiding (for example, doing the inner work and healing, or prioritizing your physical health, as many people avoid these two lol), leads to a very difficult reckoning with yourself later. Reckon with yourself now and do it intentionally, you will give yourself a more promising opportunity for true fulfillment and peace later on in life. 💞
I agree. Mel disarmed him and he didn't know what to say. It's difficult to deal with someone so head on, but she said she would be.
Lol Jared and Jordana were clearly exhausted by this guest
Me too
@@ZazaLynn it was a hard listen
They seemed exhausted before the episode began imo lol
@@jordanj8710Very low energy starting off.
I bet they were tired at the start because they had already been talking to Mel before recording started lol 😂
Mel was brutally honest and spot on giving a perspective that actually gives back control to the individual. Her advice is super practical and realistic IMO. I think the negative comments are because of her kind of anxious delivery (which might be related to her ADHD - which she mentioned). If you can get past her tone, the words and advice is pretty good.
I loved this episode! I'm surprised to see in the comments that no everyone did 😮 I loved the assertive attitude! I needed to hear it since I've been stressed out at work because of a new employee's behavior 😅 I'll remind myself from now on to "let them"😊
Gotta say.. I get what Mel is saying 1000%. I think she's thinking about dating in a dynamic way, while I also got J&J wanted to have the benefit of the doubt, but her POV is very non gen-z / millennial so that might be the disconnect. I have had a similar approach to dating lately because I studied consumer behaviour + always been introspective. Patterns dont lie!
PD: Loveed the ep, rebuttal questions & insights!
This was seriously one of the best guests you've ever had on! "Let them" is a great theory to take them into dating. I came to the conclusion a year or two ago that there was no confusion in dating, and that we just asked questions to try to get people to validate us and tell us things aren't wonky when we know deep down they are.
The ending was great. The beginning was bumpy…
lol yikes this was worse than I thought - hard to listen to her but like others have said I watch the pod for Jared and Jordana's sage and NUANCED advice which was lacking here. Love you J&J!
Finally! some straight to the point tough love advice that everyone needs but doesn’t enjoy hearing
This guest thinks she’s got some great insights and she doesn’t. Yikes. She sounds like a bully and does not have an ability to listen. Blah 😑 super turned off by her personality
Get James Sexton on the podcast please!!
I love him. He’d be great
I follow Mel but have only ever listened to one of her podcast episodes, the format was a whole hour of just her speaking and I found it wasn’t for me. Here, I think her delivery is hard to digest because she may be used to only having herself talk, so she cuts others off to interject her thoughts, frequently! (Also she’s stated she has ADHD, maybe this impels her to do it immediately.) Anyway she often has great nuggets of insight, but I think she was a little too confident in delivering some of her takes that just seemed not to be grounded in reality. No fault of her own, I think she hasn’t been single in decades, but she definitely didn’t need to cut J&J off to share some of those takes it got to be annoying.
The theory itself is funny to me because I don’t like confrontation or stress (I know duh) and so subconsciously have followed this approach most of my life, I’m sure I’m not alone but funny to hear it touted like something new. Although some of her takes with it seem to veer into really selfish perspectives, not for me but ‘let her’.
This was painful to watch.
Yikes
Follow mel on her channel and glad to see her as a guest! Great advice.
It was tough to listen to this guest. From the very beginning, with her “thank you for inviting me,” it felt off, especially knowing her team has likely been reaching out to every podcast asking for her to be on.
Did she call Jared a narcissist? Lol dang. Kinda fucked up
She did it your standards are superficially high you are acting narcissistic
She acting like she the next jay shetty 😂 be for real
the irony of comments saying that mel was “speaking at” or dominating the conversation when that is precisely what Jared does to Jordana every other episode 🫠
Yikes
I feel like a lot of her principles are the same/similar to what J & J have said in the past but she’s twisting it saying it in a way that comes off as “I’m right, your wrong, my advice is superior.”
.. And one more thing 😂😂 Im getting the vibe that her “let them” energy has turned into repressed emotions that she then word vomits all over platforms