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Colored is just a heck of a lot cooler
PaulofPauls - I agree!
I noticed this as well, black just gets way too hot.
Michael Ping If you lay it in the sun it does?
@@sinkingkitchen They deform dude it's a very heat sensitve material.
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Actually the "black" vinyl is a colored record because the non colored vinyl would be clear, or lightly tan, the black coloring was the easyest choice in the old days.
usualy in plastic manufacturing the base material is the clear stuff and there is a concentrated color aditive aprox. 5%
Bálint Fürstner So which is better, black or colored?
Nanchanger ???! Watch the video.
James Reeno I did
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In my experience, colored vinyl can be more difficult to see surface scratches or dirt and dust as compared to black vinyl. These problems can be rectified by simply taking care of your records and cleaning them regularly. Great video Jarrett. Keep it up!
White vinyl shows dirt and dust very easily also
My main reason I'm not a big fan colored vinyl... It's much more difficult to see scuffs and scratches unless it's a dark color. I once bought a clear record (used) and it looked MINT! Took it home and it was covered in light scratches that I couldn't see.
thats why u buy in person
Yeah but if you buy new coloured vinyl they look cool. I have a few records that I really like as wall decor and the coloured ones look way better then the black ones on the wall. If I was just going for looks and not stuff I actually like listening to I would only hang up coloured vinyl.
With black vinyl it is easier to detect dust, scratches and the groove itself! I can see tracks and their gaps easier and see when the tracks have silent or bassy parts, where there's a lot of sounds etc.. As a DJ this is very useful and even for just purely listening purposes, it's useful, too.
I always preferred black over coloured vinyl simply because the difference in surface noise. The coloured vinyl in the 80s was terrible and forget about playing picture discs.
Strangely red and clear I found to be the same as black vinyl.
These days though the quality is way better than the crap they used in the 80s and I find that coloured vinyl sounds pretty good so I am trying not to be as biased as I once was.
80s vinyl was all crap simply to make the public switch over to cd.
Early 80s vinyl was fine, but I agree, by the late 80s it was shocking. I've got some records that are so thin you can almost see through them.
So what do you think the cut off period would be for well made records? 80-82, 83-85, 86-88?
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@@leopold7562 I have a lot of vinyl records from the late 80s, and they all sound pretty good with very little noise
What makes it worse about Picture discs is that some albums are only available in Picture Disc's.
*GLARES AT TOOL'S LATERALUS ALBUM*
I bought a random album just because the vinyl was red
Same and the best thing is that it eventually became one of my favorite artists
I decided to get HIM's Razorblade Romance album on Vinyl just because the Vinyl was pink. And I also REALLY like the album. Lol
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@@austins.2495 it's really expensive on Ebay and Amazon though. :/
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Credibility automatically comes into question.
Well, he does say that they sound identical, so I don't think the credibility is less
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Well, I have a record label and talked to some pressing plants about this. For my net release I'm pressing 400 on black vinyl and 100 on crystal clear with white haze (to give it an ice effect) and I was told by Pirates Press that there is a LOT more surface noise from clear vinyl. They said its almost on par with picture discs, but any solid color will sound very close to black vinyl.
There is absolutely no scientific reason for this though, unless they are pressing the colored/clear records badly compared to the black ones for some reason. Otherwise, all things being equal, there's no way color or clearness can affect the sound.
CountBlagorath
So what do you prefer
exactly, i have a bunch of colored vinyl and they all sound good compared to the black ones
I've had decent plain white and red colours, but mostly black is best. Picture disc, marbles etc - avoid at all cost
I think as far as current vinyl production goes, it's all in what the listener hears and believes based on what he or she has been told. There is a pressing plant that has a color chart available online ( don't remember the name at the moment ), that shows translucent colors being quieter than solid colors.
I honestly don't care what color my records are as long as they sound as good as they can. I have never had any major issues with colored vinyl. In 2015, I purchased an album that was translucent red that was very noisy, I exchanged it for another copy ( it was only available on translucent red ) and it was fine.
I even have a splattered white/black ( Weezer's Pacific Daydream ), and I was really surprised that it sounds fantastic with no clicks or pops while playing.
I love coloured vinyl because it looks so cool. I have quite a few coloured vinyl records in my collection now, the most recent ones I got from eBay are new 180g reissues of 'The Slider', 'Tanx' and 'Bolan Boogie' by T.Rex. The Slider is a silver coloured vinyl, Tanx is on a blue and pinky red split coloured vinyl and the Bolan Boogie one is blue and they look awesome.
Very cool. I have been a T Rex fan since 1972 👍
I like black vinyl because it's easier to see the dust on the record. colored is nice too.
i own black, coloured,flexi and picture discs and honestly other than Flexi (which i only bought to say i had one haha) i cant tell any difference in sound quality
right! same!
same, i dont have a flexi one, but the others sound the exact same
You are indeed correct about coloured vinyl records today not (necessarily) differing from standerd black vinyl records.
However I think this 'superstition' came from older coloured records before they were audibly indistinguishable and still made from different material
i love the look of clear vinyl and sometimes coloured but black vinyl shows up flaws and scratches and tracks clearly.
I don't know if colored records sound better or worse but between some bands selling some to get you to buy their music even though the album is not that great and record companies using them as a way to make a few extra bucks on a sale, I follow a simple rule: the music on the album is the only thing that matters and if the colored version is availalbe at no extra charge, then why not. It's not like I stare at my turntable while playing a record.
no difference in sound black has a pigment added to make it black. i prefer colored though
Elliot Buckingham i prefer black, see tracks better and scratches. Nothing more differences really.
King Diamond that's why you need a spotlight, my friend. I got one and I can read my bright yellow one like I can a black one. Though you need to angle it right.
A guy who I buy records from told me that the reason why some older colour vinyl can sound worse is because the colour versions might have been produced at the end of a run before cleaning the machines as a 'novelty' or a 'special pressing'.
Dear Jared, the arguments concerning the pros and cons of coloured vinyl have been raging for the last half-century or more and the answer is encapsulated in everything set out in your video: new vinyl, clean surfaces and no picture discs or flexi-discs. Well said, sir!
+Parlophonic thank you so much! I wanted to set the record straight...pun intended! 😄
Hahahahahahahaha! Keep up the good work.
the reissues from Brian Jonestown Massacre are ALL on coloured vinyl and sound amazing. i think is a matter of pressing quality, above everything.
I agree! Sometimes the quality of the chef is more important than the quality of the ingredients...
you are fortunate, however the odds are generally stacked against the consumer, as it is not always apparent which plant the record was manufactured in, or if the attention to quality was where it needed to be
Soundwise I would go for black or colour. Collectability, picture discs have some value to them. Conclusion: Buy one of each if you're a recordcollector! :)
Since I buy vinyl records simply as collection pieces, I usually go for colored limited editions haha I just like them way more
You could do a video of your opinions on first pressings
It's been said by the audiophile community that colored vinyl has higher surface noise, thereby reducing the signal to noise ratio. A pure vinyl pressing is slightly transparent with a brownish tint. You can tell by holding it up to a lamp. If you can see the lamp just barely through the LP, it is pure vinyl, or close to it. Clear pressings do not apply as they are probably just clear plastic with some vinyl mixed in, typical of colored pressings as well.
Hammy Technoid another one says he's wrong...
coloured vinyl looks so much cooler than black, so if you can get it i'd always go for a coloured version over black. Just say no to picture discs though unless they've fixed the sound quality issues with those recently.
Thanks for that. I have been avoiding colored vynil because i had heard it didn't sound as good. You cleared that up 👍
I personally have always found colored vinyl to sound quite good. There are only two factors I know that might possibly be valid…
With colored records you know you aren't getting recycled vinyl, which was notorious for being more noisy. However, I don't know if anybody is even pressing recycled vinyl anymore. It seems to be a thing of the past.
With black records it may be easier to see when your record is getting dirty. But if you wipe the dust off every time you play them anyhow, then it hardly matters.
Your every correct Jarrett. I work in the plastic industry and the color is a additive to clear virgin material. What would would actually make a difference in the record at all is the quality of the pvc and how good the stabilizer additives are. There are additive's for UV protection, to prevent warping, etc the list goes on and on. One thing I do wonder is why the don't use anti static compounds in the resin like they used to. It's possible that there not allowed anymore for environmental reasons.
I work in plastic industry too.Antistatic is still used on many products (most of them) so why not for records ? that's a interesting question...
My biggest issue with coloured vinyl is that it is super hard to see if it is scratched or has any defects. In my experience, black or very dark coloured vinyl, allows you to better gage the condition it is in; so buying it on the second hand market is always a coin toss.. Needless to say, see-through vinyl is near impossible. You are absolutely right that it looks pretty, though! :)
My favourite coloured record is The Desaturating Seven by Primus. Its a clear record with splotches of different colours all over it.
Carbon black was added to vinyl to keep static electricity somewhat under control, but all my standard vinyl from the 1970's. through the early 90's still had ESD issues and needed to be controlled. Even small discharges would create snaps and pops, but not as much as particles/dust. And there's the rub, cleaning records often created static charges. So we use to clean and then attempt to neutralize static build up. Some people used that Zerostat, others conductive mats. I was in the second group. A good turntable's center spindle was usually grounded through a separate ground wire back to your amp. Not though the audio cables. both parts of the cables "floated" and were not grounded.
That was then, I don't know about modern equipment with built in preamps, etc. Power cords back then only had two conductors. Most modern equipment probably has three, including a separate ground wire.
As a polymer engineer for almost 20 years I can give more insight on the affects of color to resin. Not sure how this affects the sound of vinyl albums, but it may help in leading some of you in the right direction.
The additives (color in this case) affects the performance, structure, and rigidity of materials. Colors are made from hundreds of companies in hundreds of ways. Some use synthetic and some use organic pigmentation. White can sometimes use mica or talc, which is abrasive and can scrape the lining of a barrel and pickup carbon build up, contaminates, etc. Blues and greens are a mixed bag. Some can be organic or synthetic. This plays a big role in post shrinkage. All this may affect the quality of sound produced.
On top of all this PVC can be very toxic and gaseous when at melt temp. If left heated to long, it breaks down to a hydrochloric gas, which is poisonous and even oxidizes metals. This oxidation, if not clean properly, can leave micro contaminates in vinyl. I actually have bought brand new records that had a few spots skip due to a "chunk" of contaminate in the groove. The main thing with vinyl production is the quality of resin, color grade, machine PM, and strictness of quality inspection.
I couldn't tell you if these record companies test the colors before choosing them. I hope they do.
Personally, I prefer black vinyl because it is much easier to see the lead-ins to the various tracks. That's important for a DJ, like me, or anyone just wanting to pick out separate tracks to play. Also, it is much easier to see dirt and dust that needs to be removed before playing. In essence, it's just more practical. But if having "pretty" records is your thing, go that route.
I think colored and multi colored records are cooler looking but it’s harder to see flaws in them
I've been wanting a video on this for the LONGEST time.
Vinyl Eyezz, tell me, What would happen if , instead of making the vinyl "biscuit" first, the vinyl pellets were spreaded directly onto the molds to press the records?
Thanks so much for answering this question! Appreciate it.. and yes, colored records are so awesome to find
CardboredBox He kind of answered, but half the people here disagree with him...
I just acquired the 8 McCartney lps released on different colored vinyls and they were pressed in Germany, they sound amazing. They sound like DMM pressings. Also the Stones Hot Rocks on clear vinyl sounds 3D compared to the black 180grm pressings. interesting!
The first record I bought was a splatter. I was so surprised. And it's so cool
Never really heard anyone complain about colored vinyl. I have a few and they sound great. You made all the great points to look for and I don't have any pictured albums.
I have one red-colored record - a 2012 reissue of "A Christmas Gift For You From Philles Records" - and in terms of sound quality, it is as good as CDs.
I usualy buy both. Black for listening, Color/picture for cellection/room wall ;-)
Agree 100%, more about cleanliness & care than the color.
I always thought that colored vinyl is not offered in 180 gram; only black. In my experiences though, I have yet to notice a significant difference in sound quality between 180 gram and standard vinyl. So maybe 180 gram doesn't enhance the sound, but reduces warping of the record?
blake Aakhus actually is the opposite,180grams records are much more easy to warp if u stock them in a "bad" way
+blake Aakhus you're definitely right, in my personal experience I think that 180 gram vinyl is less prone to warping. I like those records because they feel solid and will last a long time!
I think it depends from the source of the coloring solution:
As far as I know the black colored vinyl achieves very low surface noise due to its silker surface, maybe the result of how the coloring bonds with the PVC itself.
Clear transparent vinyl should be pretty much of the same quality, but it seems like every other coloring processes cause the vinyl to have a less defined surface and as a consequence a less precise groove.
Bruh
Back in the day picture discs and colored vinyl were meant to be collected and not really played. You would get a regular release for listening purposes. With today's prices you better be sure about collecting versus listening because not everything is available in both formats.
Great video! Well explained of what goes into actually making the vinyl whether black or coloured. People in my industry (pedal steel guitar) say black pedal steels sound better, which totally isn't true. It is the player, not the guitar, Same applies in the vinyl world. It is the set up and music, not the colour. Play a coloured record on a crosley and it will sound shite compared to the black record on an LP120 with brilliant speakers. Put them on the same set up either way and they sound the same.
I love that there are more colored vinyl than ever before!
If I we're to asked based on my experience so far, I would go for the plain blacks rather than colored ones (non-blacks ofc). I should stress out that it's important you should check for reviews online if you are considering buying a certain LP you're looking for. It really helps you to avoid "oh-no-I-made-a-mistake-or-regret-on-buying-this scenario". If the reviews said its a bad pressing, its best to stay clear on buying it.
Research is key and your best friend in order to save yourself from the headaches in having a badly pressed LP at your collection. You have a point Jarrett! Cheers!
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I recently got Run The Jewels 2 on 180 gram coloured vinyl. It sounds amazing and looks awesome.
Atrip Entertainment same with rtj3, really good looking gold vinyl
I went and bought my first vinyls a few days ago, and a couple were colored. Ghost's Opus Eponymous record was printed on a kinda gold sparkle swirl, and Potty Mouth's SNAFU record, which is blue.
Thanks for the info, Jarrett. I’m now gonna put cream and sugar on top of all my vinyl records now
Coloured vinyl is fine from my experience. Clear vinyl and picture discs have more surface noise.
There is no discernible difference in sound quality. It’s a total myth among audiophiles that also think spending 1,000 dollars on a cable vs. 100 dollars on a cable makes a HUGE difference in the sound. I think it comes from those same old guys that think vinyl should only be black.
Honestly I prefer color vinyl especially when it is 180 gram
Julian Gonzalez better sound?
unfortunately some colored records have more surface noise than black records, I've seen a couple of videos where the tecord is half color half black, and the color side has some audible hiss. maybe ,as you said, this might be due to the fact that the o, lored pvc they used was recycled or bad quality, I don't know... And also it makes me sad to see albums that only came out as picture discs and not normal vinyl... cool video tho!
+JAMiE DC I hear you, I really wish they made TOOL's album Lateralus on traditional vinyl instead of just Picture Disc! We should always have an option!
+Paradox yeah I've seen in in red vinyl too lol
+Vinyl Eyezz yeah, I wanted the Lady Gaga's The Fame Monster on vinyl because they say it has way more dynamic range than the CD, but they only have it on picture disc, even the singles and the remixes, 😭
"unfortunately some colored records have more surface noise than black records" ... This has nothing to do with the color. This sounds like a pressing plant issue. A great deal of new pop records are banged out at pressing plants with very low quality control. The video talks about this. Like the vid host says: It is the Mastering and Pressing that matters here. The whole color to sound quality thing has been debunked a long time ago. If you want to go down the rabbit hole.. do some looking into pressing plants and matrix codes.
if you notice usually colored 12" vinyl today is pressed with only 140gr and most black pressing get a 180gr and that gets used as a mark up selling point. I noticed on cheaper record players like ion or crosley, the 140 he didn't play as good for me as the 180, but on a good ole Technica I don't really experience much difference. Always research the record and get familiar with the facilities pressing and mastering to ensure you get the record you want with the sound it deserves. Another contributing factor is the amount of records pressed from one master. Let's say 500 get pressed from one master, the sound qualtity is quite different from the first pressings to the last ones before another master is created
I haven't noticed a tremendous difference between colored & black vinyl. But I have an 80's vintage Sony turntable w/ an optical size selector. Some transparent vinyl (e.g. Bush - Sixteen Stone, 20th) makes it think there's a 7" on there.
In some pressing plants, they add pigment to clear dye to make coloured records. These records are a bit lower quality, as it sorta incorporates a grit into the vinyl. Especially the silver and gold records.
I love colored vinyl. Keep on pressing!!!
I have caroline polacheks pang clear w gold glitter vinyl, and honestly it’s so gorgeous, the gold reflects and the album is such a vibe
The colour doesn’t matter at all. It’s the pressing and the (re)mastering quality that matters. I have a couple of Duplo records, in black and colour, and most of the coloured sound the same, if not better. It also varies a lot per individual record. My dad and I both have a golden vinyl edition of U2’s The Joshua Tree, and his has a lot more noise coming from it, and they both look perfectly flat.
Technically, color can matter at pressing factories. Black is the ideal color for pressing at factories. Different colors melt at different temperatures, so the workers need to set the machines' temperature depending on the color being pressed. But it doesn't really deter from the sound quality, just at the pressing factory, but if pressed wrong they won't sound as good.
I've heard that the SRC pressings of Blink-182 albums have been mastered really well and that they're the best sounding of any of the reissues, and some of those are colored.
Jared, I recently purchased the 20th Anniversary Goo Goo Dolls "Dizzy Up The Girl" on Purple Swirl Vinyl...and I have to say, it sounds fantastic!!!! My system has the Fluance Rt-81(Upgraded with the Ortofon Pro S Stylus/Headshell) with The Yamaha 303 Reciever...and Klipsch RP-150M Speakers...so you can imagine the sound would be pretty sweet!!!
could you PLEASE make a video talking about picture disc vinyl records & how it effects the sound quality? pls!
I have several picture discs, and 2-3 of them sound very bad. One is the 12" Desolation Row by MCR and another is The Dethalbum 2. The dethalbum is insanely quiet, and MCR has insane noise. I can remember how bad/good any of my other picture discs sound. I haven't noticed my colored records sounding worse than my black ones. Both can sound equally bad for many different reasons though.
I gave up on vinyl after a disc I cleaned and checked with a microscope still crackled. Surely in 2018 there are better materials to make records out of. Use an ultra smooth, very tough plastic that is near impossible to scratch and you can clean by putting them in the dishwasher.
I thought I don't have a colored vinyl but as I dug on my vault, I noticed some vinyl records that I haven't opened yet. And I mean they are still sealed. So I checked them one by one and find out that one of them (Empire Records: Original Soundtrack) is a colored vinyl record. Woaw!! cool to have one.
Hi Jarrett!
Thanks for getting me into record collecting! I've been watching your videos for about a year and a half now, and I'm a big fan!
I know you've made a few videos about colored vinyl, but in a future video, could you discuss the differences between opaque, translucent, and transparent vinyl? I feel like a lot of people and product descriptions get these terms mixed up.
I also feel like there are so many variations of "clear" vinyl. For example, I have colorless transparent vinyl (i.e., my Urban Outfitters exclusive pressing of "Neotheater" by AJR), but some other records I have that are labeled as "clear" are actually translucent white (i.e., my first pressing of "Meliora" by Ghost) or even a translucent light blue (i.e., my "clear" pressing of "Pray for the Wicked" by Panic! at the Disco). Then there are terms like "coke bottle clear" (AKA "mint green") that really just mean that the pressing is tinted, transparent, or translucent light green.
I'd love to hear your opinions on this, and I think this would be a great discussion to have on the channel!
Thanks,
Kelsey
Love picture discs, even noisy old cereal box records. A well mastered 180g or higher pic disc can actually provide some fantastic sound. I have picked up a few of the more recent Disney pressings and some horror film scores that were fantastic though due to the thin layer I do not recommend over use. I have only begun to collect again in the last two years after theft... but had collected almost exclusively picture discs, colored vinyl, phonocards etc for about 35 years prior. Never predictable. NEATS first issue of Venom's Black Metal sounded as good as the standard pressing and had a better bottom end to the sound than their other records at that time. The Universal 80's pic LP for John Williams ET soundtrack was about as good as those 70's cereal box records... or a 1919 Aeolian red shellac played with the wrong stylus...
Great video once again, also another interesting topic to discuss is vinyl reissues, a lot of them are recorded with digital tapes, and that makes the vinyl crap regarding sound quality, but are we able to understand that? thoughts?and tips to stay away from companies that reissue old golden records in order to take our money while not using official tapes. Cheers Jarrett!
I have had good and bad of both. My newest record is Queensryche Empire 2LP on clear vinyl, and it is amazing.
I as a plastics engineer can tell you, that recycling technologies have been improved so massively over the last few years that there is now nearly no difference between new and recycled. In fact, the diffrence is so little that you must have a stylus from a ced player, if anybody knows what that is :-). (Apologies for my poor english)
I largely concur. I've got an old Elvis Presley double album on pink vinyl which sounds great, and I've got Troublegum by Therapy? on green vinyl which sounds fantastic. Clear vinyl, I'm not so sure about: I've got one album, National Coma by Drop Nineteens, which sounds pretty rough, and a 12" EP - a remix of High by The Cure - which sounds a lot better, but as a 45 it's probably easier to overcome the lacquer layer that both seem to possess. The one major downside of coloured vinyl is that it's much harder to see scratches and scuffs than it is with black and as such I tend to steer clear of coloured vinyl in second hand shops unless they have some way to try it out before I buy.
Picture discs sound terrible. I only have one (Disintegration by The Cure) and it was so awful I went out and bought it on CD, but only because it was much cheaper than the vinyl and I was already out by many pounds splurging on the picture disc in the first place.
I'd also like to add that the thickness of the disc plays a big part, too. As an example, two albums spring to mind. Alf, by Alison Moyet, is pressed on vinyl so flimsy it flexes under it's own weight and I've never found it to sound as good as either the cassette or CD versions, it sounds so thin. On the flip side, the album Gish, by Smashing Pumpkins, is on a slab so thick you could beat whales to death with it and it sounds gorgeous. I did also consider Bridge of Spies, by T'Pau, another late 80s pressing on flimsy vinyl which sounds awful, but I've since had the CD and it sounds just as bad, which proves what was said at the time that the album was horribly mastered.
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Love the structure and format of your videos!
I was just wondering if you had any Elvis records, 1:04 answered my question.Also, I prefer black vinyls, they look original.
I love how coloured records look when spinning on my turntable, I have a single picture record from 1998 and it looks a bit weird when spinning and sounds a bit less quality and then I have a clear flexi disk from the 1988 and it sounds off because it's too thin and the rest are black and honestly I hear no difference between coloured and black just how it looks
I think it comes down to quality control with coloured vinyl. I have a 50/50 black and white record and for the first 5 mins you can hear a tick as the needle goes from one colour to another.
When I get an LP and find out it's colored or clear, I roll my eyes for a second, but once it's on the turntable and the sound comes out, there's no difference. Picture discs are the worst, you hear that scraping sound because of the extra layer Jared referred to.
Black 180 or 220 g is the best way to listen. Thick, heavy, and less static!!! Also, never play on a bad turntable(Crosley as an example). Love the channel. Subbed!!!
Squarebear so he's wrong?
Which color gives the best sound?
MegaBojan1993
CD
Completely agree with you. CD is so much better than vinyl. Vinyl sucks because it's just too noisy for my taste. That's why I sold all my records back in 2004 and downloaded all my albums in FLAC files.
MegaBojan1993
Yep, everything you said is true.
But I do still buy vinyl for two reasons (Albeit one record each month when I have money to spare):
Artwork, and 180 gram vinyl feels thicc.
Other than those two reasons, CD is better in every way!
When you have a small quantity of records you will love the weight and size of them (also the artwork). But when you have 500 you will hate the fact how much room they take. I was lucky back in the early 2000s to buy 500 records for just 200 euros, but after a few years when I grew bored of the hassle, I sold all of them for even cheaper price :)
MegaBojan1993
500?!
Man I thought having 3 took up lots of space lol
The colored dye, be it black, yellow, green, etc, won't individually vary the sound. It's just a different color of dye.
Mark Arnold how do you know?
I've always been able to tell the difference in sound quality between picture discs and regular ones, and absolutely there is a night and day difference between the two. With colored vinyl, though I don't really notice much of a difference. I do have a record, however, that is half of one color and half of the other, and for whatever reason the two sides sound somewhat different from one another. Hm.
I heard that colored vinyl actually sounds better because colored vinyl is typically virgin vinyl. With black records, they can melt them down and it's still going to be black, colored records would have to be separated or just use new material.
dahlgren23 Seems to be a lot of confusion...
how to write that intro joke in my mind
"i like my vinyl the way i like my coffee... ACTUALLY BREWED WELL BY A FUCKING PROFESSIONAL"
Getting the new ghost album Prequlle on colored vinyl! Also the new Dance Gavin Dance Arse!
I love finding Vintage colored vinyl
I noticed coloured vinyls sounded different before knowing this was a superstition among audiofiles.... You can easily notice it in the first seconds of the groove before the first song starts to play, where there's only silence... something is different... So for me, it doesn't depend on mastering or recording issues, it is the plastic itself.
Great video as always, thanks Jared!
This guy is right about all the other reasons vinyl can sound bad, but I would be suspicious of anyone's conclusion when their sponsor is a company that only makes colored vinyl. I'd always heard / suspected that colored vinyl was inferior sound-wise, but had it verified when I was designing the art and overseeing the pressing of an album by Tommy Emmanuel called "Christmas Memories". Since it featured mostly white packaging, I asked the supervisor at the pressing plant about doing white vinyl. Even though they make more money off of the colored vinyl, he steered me away from it because of the poor sound quality when compared to black vinyl. He also sent me a list of different vinyl options ranked by sound quality with black vinyl being the highest, white vinyl being the lowest, and everything in between (transparent, transparent tinted, and any type of swirled or marbled vinyl being very low on the list). His conclusion was that colored vinyl products are essentially novelty items geared towards completists. We ended up going with the 180gram black vinyl and it sounds pristine, so I'm going to take his word for it. I absolutely love the look of these colored vinyl pressings, but if it's at the expense of the sound quality, then properly pressed black vinyl seems the way to go.
VINYL EYEZZ, DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO THAT TALKS ABOUT THE PRODUCTION STEPS OF MAKING VINYL AT ALL OR DO YOU PLAN ON MAKING ONE? I REALLY WISH TO LEARN ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY.
I have a Bob Seger silver 33 1/3 album. Hold on an angle and you can see what looks like glitter in it.
I can’t tell a difference sound wise. So then you have to look at visually which is best. Hands down my least favorite is white vinyl because I’ve never seen one that isn’t flawed. My next least favorite is split colored vinyl. I know they won’t but they look like they would break apart where the 2 colors meet. Next is solid color. I like them but seeing what else can be done it looks kind of plane. I love smoke & marbled vinyl but my favorite is splatter. I’ve not said anything about liquid filled vinyl because I have never seen one in person.
To me at least, there isn't a difference. However i did notice a lot of surface noise on my see-through records compared to any of my black or non see-through colored records. Also keep in mind that black will show dirt/dust more than colored so you might end up cleaning your black records more than your colored ones leaving the colored more dirty and sounding bad. Just a thought.
I have some picture discs because of the gorgeous artworks they often have and some records got an black vinyl version of the same songs too so I often got both (even if I have a very long way for research)
My experience is that in new albums that come out, the colored editions more tend to be warped! Have no idea what the reason is though
Color doesn't matter. He is correct on the mixing and condition, etc. Also, everyone hates pic discs for a reason. They're mostly ugly and depreciates sound quality. Nice video on clearing it up for everyone!
I collect records and all the men who have hung around have told me that black vinyl is superior , I would often get this lecture because I'm often buying the vinyl that looks the prettiest 😆 pink vinyl is my favorite 💖