Who is the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53? Dr. Brown Responds to Rabbi Singer
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- I said in this video there is "nothing in the text" that would indicate that the suffering servant of Isa 53 was the righteous remnant of Israel. I should have said, "I can see why some would argue that the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 is the righteous remnant of Israel, but there are many clear reasons to reject this association and to recognize that the text speaks of the Messiah."
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This is why Tovia Singer dodges Doctor Brown and does not dare step into another debate with him.
@Filip Ljubanović so now you are a messiahnic jew.....glad to hear😊
Yup ... You are right TravisLee.... 🙏🏻🏌🏌
You couldn't have said it better you are 100 o. That That guy runs from Dr brown 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Iyas kelu do you think he is deceptively trying to fool the people that listen to him? if so, what would be his reason for deceiving them like this?
@Iyas kelu im happy to say that his arguments miss the mark, but just to be clear when i say "deceptive" i mean "knows full well he is saying something false but says it anyways" which is different from "has a bad argument that does not represent Christianity well." Do you think it's the first one or the second one? And if it's the first one why do you think he is intentionally lying about Christianity
I do want to be clear that I am not here to say that all of his arguments are good, he's obviously an idealogue (i am an atheist and his "the only reason you date the book of Daniel and the second half of Isaiah late is because the prophecies are too true" is just a mega eye roll at this point...bad argument that misses the point, it's more indepth than the superficial circular argument about how "prophecy cant happen therefore prophecy cant happen" that he is talking about) but i dont think he knows full well he is lying when he says dumbs stuff about atheist critical scholars, just tht he picks up bad arguments that are convenient for him so he can just believe them and not pick them apart further.
So do you think he is coming up with a lie that he knows is a lie, or do you think he just has bad arguments that he believes because they work for him? And if it's the first one, why do you think he is lying?
I love how every time that Dr. Brown says that Jesus/Yeshua is the Messiah of Israel, he has a joyful smile on his face.
When I first encountered this objection a couple years ago, my faith was definitely shaken. But then I found Dr. Brown and his masterful explanation of the Scripture and thorough answers cleared my mind of any doubt
@@treksta2009 I'm doing a series of videos to debunk Tovia Singer if you are interested. Isaiah 53 has already been posted on my channel.
I'm doing a series of videos to debunk Tovia Singer if you are interested. Isaiah 53 has already been posted on my channel.
Hi, let me warn you, you will find objections from whoever has not accepted Jesus as the promised Messiah, it will be always like that, but the true, unshakeable truth is that Jesus is the Messiah and will come for a second time as promised too.amen
@@V_George
It doesn’t sound like you actually listened to what Dr Brown said. His counterpoints clearly refute Singer’s arguments. Dr Brown makes clear Singer’s arguments do not agree with historic Rabbinic interpretation.
Leviticus clearly teaches only an unblemished animal is acceptable as an offering for sin. Not even the remnant of Israel is unblemished by sin, so how can they qualify as “guilt” offering for sin?
Please read Isaiah 52:13-53:12 for yourself. It is clearly speaking of an individual.
@@V_George Do you mind if I prove to you what Dr. brown is saying is false ?
I viewed this over a year ago . . . I think 3 times. Today, in listening again, it's like the 1st time. I'll probably have to view it a few more times because there's so much in it and you speak fast. Very good and understandable after repeated hearing. 😊
Thank you Dr. Brown you are a light to the church of God.
Citing rabbinical commentary to give weight that 53 speaks of the Messiah is setting yourself up to fall apart. Rabbinical commentary also university refuses Jesus as the Messiah. You’re not going to accept a rabbinical interpretation that rejects Jesus, but you’ll take it if it speaks of the Messiah and you can twist it to fit your beliefs? That’s just cherry picking.
42:6-7 refers to God opening the eyes of Israel Himself, it makes no mention of a second, “servant.
It is also as ridiculous to cite and an Aramaic translation of Isiah 52 as it is to cite the Septuagint. Translations never override the original. Also, the word messiah means anointed one. There are many messiahs in the Bible so someone translating servant to messiah in Aramaic centuries before Christianity, may not have meant messiah like a Christian would.
You can’t get mad at People citing Zephaniah because it “refers to the future” when your doing the same thing with Isaiah 53. Also taking Jeremiah 30 is the same this as well, your pulling different verses, from different books with different contexts out of where they belong to justify whatever theology you want to create.
You can try to cover up the holes in the argument with fast talking and rapidly jumping around both the Bible and the argument points and making assertions with verses that have nothing to do with what you say so fast it’s hard to keep up. To where people get a hard time critiquing you. And people who already agree with you will just passively accept your on to something. But in reality, it’s the same assertion that one must read outside of Isaiah rather then the rest of Isaiah to learn what 53 is about. When doctrines pop up that take Christian verses out of context to justify crazy beliefs just know you will look at them the same way we look at you.
The servant in Messiah had NO SIN in HIM - Israel is FULL OF SIN. Deuteronomy 18:15-19 Moses says God will raise up one from AMONG HUMANs one LIKE MOSES whom he will put the words in his his mouth - We must listen to him or lose our souls. Daniel 9:24-27 The MESSIAH was to be cut off BEFORE the destruction of the 2nd temple in 70 AD . Isaiah 9:6-7 Says the MEssiah will be GOD IN THE FLESH - A human called GOD, Isaiah 7:14 says the Messiah will be born to a virgin called Emmanual (GOD WITH US), Genesis 3:15 The woman's seed will defeat satan - not a mans seed - A HUMAN!!! God came in the Flesh and the Jewish people feared they would lose their land to the Romans so they crucified him - Isaiah 53, Psalm 22, Psalm 34:20, Psalm 16:10, Isaiah 26:19, Zechariah 12:10, Micah 5:2.
To read of the Messiah's geneology - again proving he would come as a human, visit these verses: Genesis 12:3 Genesis 22:18 (Messiah would come from line of Abraham), Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac. Genesis 17:19 Genesis 21:12, Messiah would be a descendant of Jacob. Numbers 24:17, Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah. Genesis 49:10, Messiah would be heir to King David's throne. 2 Samuel 7:12-13 Isaiah 9:7,.
***** MARY WAS ALSO FROM THE LINE OF DAVID *****
Read ISAIAH 53 again, in combination with all these Old Testament verses - then go read the New Testament Gospels and REPENT and get to know your SAVIOR - for your redeemer God did come into this world as FLESH John 1:1-14 as he was too HOLY to enter as he was - he had to take on the form of a human to die for you. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son (Psalm 2), that whosoever believes on him shall not perish but have ever lasting life.
***** OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE CONFIRMS MANY TIMES THAT THE MESSIAH WOULD COME AS A HUMAN *****
There it is, Dr Brown at his best. Beautiful apologetic work.👏👏👏
@Wilmar singer lies too much. Is like watching Donald Trump at his rallies. So, singer just sounds convincing but when he is fact checked, you would realized he just said alternative truths.
@@FeyAccion8523 Do you mind if I prove to you what Dr. brown is saying is false ?
Thanks for this video, it solved a great crisis of faith I have had.
Do you mind if I prove to you what Dr. brown is saying is false ?
@@jamilbiotech91 No not really
@@jamilbiotech91you can't.
@@TheCableStrain
The broad consensus among Jewish, and even some Christian commentators, that the “servant” in Isaiah 52-53 refers to the nation of Israel is understandable.
Isaiah 53, which is the fourth of four renowned Servant Songs, is umbilically connected to its preceding chapters.
The “servant” in each of the three previous Servant Songs is plainly and repeatedly identified as the nation of Israel.
Isaiah 41:8-9
But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, the offspring of Abraham, my friend; you whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off.”
Isaiah 44:1
But now hear, O Jacob my servant, Israel whom I have chosen!
Isaiah 44:21
Remember these things, O Jacob, and Israel, for you are my servant; I formed you; you are my servant; O Israel, you will not be forgotten by me.
Isaiah 45:4
For the sake of my servant Jacob, and Israel my chosen, I called you by your name, I name you, though you do not know me.
Isaiah 48:20
Go out from Babylon, flee from Chaldea, declare this with a shout of joy, proclaim it, send it out to the end of the earth; say, “The Lord has redeemed his servant Jacob!”
Isaiah 49:3
And he said to me, “You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified.”
The stunned reaction of the world’s nations to the unexpected vindication and redemption of the Jewish nation in the messianic age is a recurring theme throughout the Hebrew Scriptures.
((Isaiah 41:11; Micah 7:15-16; Jeremiah 16:19-20;))
Israel’s neighbors will be amazed when their age-old assessment of the Jew is finally proven wrong.
Throughout Israel’s long and bitter exile, the nations mistakenly attributed the miserable predicament of the Jew to his stubborn rejection of the world’s religions.
In the End of Days, however, the gentiles will discover what was until then unimaginable - the unwavering Jew was, in fact, all this time faithful to the one true God. On the other hand, “We despised and held him of no account” (53:3).
I watched Rabbi Singer and I thought his conclusions were wrong. God calls many his "servant" according to his plans. Nebuchadnezzar is also his servant.
So just because parts of Isiah refer to Israel his servant, doesn't mean other parts refer to the same as his servant. Of course Isiah 53 is not the same servant as Israel is in other texts in the same book.
Common sense tells you his suffering, offering forgiveness of sins, having no sin or deceit doesn't refer to the nation of Israel. You have to be completely blind to draw another conclusion.
Even though I disagree with you on some major points, I so much appreciate your interaction with the Jewish people and defense of Yeshua the Messiah. I believe God has blessed you with the experiences and gifts you have received “for such a time as this”. Thank you Dr. Brown. May YHWH bless and keep you.
Right on Dr. Brown. Isaiah 53=YESHUA MESSIAH
LAUGHABLE! IT IS THE PEOPLE ISRAEL.
@@InspiredByEbonyLove Ponder on these verses - Then return to *ISAIAH 53 and read it from a Messianic view* .
*ISAIAH 59* states Israel is *FULL OF DECEIT, SIN, and VIOLENCE* - Calling Israel the *SUFFERING RIGHTEOUS SERVANT WHO HAD NO DECEIT OR VIOLENCE* would be a *CONTRADICTION* to ISAIAH 53:9. *SEE BELOW*
*ISAIAH 53:8-9* He (SUFFERING SERVANT MESSIAH* ) was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for *HE* (SINGULAR MESSIAH) was cut off out of the land of the living: *for the transgression of my people was he stricken* (HE = MESSIAH, and MY PEOPLE = ISRAEL).9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because *he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth* .
*ISAIAH 59:2-6* 2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. 3 For *your hands are defiled with blood* , and your fingers with iniquity; *your lips have spoken lies* , your tongue hath muttered perverseness. 4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and *speak lies* ; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity. 5 They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper. 6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: *their works are works of iniquity* , and the *act of violence is in their hands* . ( *ISRAEL CANNOT SAVE THEMSELVES BY WORKS* )
*ISRAEL IS NOT RIGHTEOUS*
*ISRAEL IS FULL OF DECEIT*
*ISRAEL HAS INNOCENT BLOOD ON ITS HANDS*
*ISRAEL SPEAKS LIES*
*ISRAEL HAS ACTS OF VIOLENCE IN THEIR HANDS*
*ISAIAH 59:11-16* We roar all like bears, and mourn sore like doves: we look for judgment, but there is none; *for salvation, but it is far off from us* .12 For our transgressions are multiplied before thee, and our sins testify against us: for our transgressions are with us; and as for our iniquities, we know them; 13 In *transgressing and lying against the Lord* , and departing away from our God, speaking oppression and revolt, conceiving and *uttering from the heart words of falsehood* . 14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter. 15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the Lord saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. 16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that *there was no intercessor* ( *ISRAEL IS NOT THE INTERCESSOR* ): therefore *his arm brought salvation unto him* ( *WHOM HAS THE ARM OF THE LORD BEEN REVEALLED* ); and his righteousness, it sustained him.
*ISRAEL WAITS FOR GOD'S SALVATION - THEY CANNOT SAVE THEMSELVES OR ANYONE FOR THAT MATTER* !
Rabbinic Judaism is not biblical - Read the warning in
*PROVERBS 30:5-6*
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. *Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar* .
*I challenge you to read LEVITICUS 26 & DEUTERONOMY 28 - The people of Israel suffers for their own sins by being exiled - Israel *NEVER DIES* it only *ENJOYS* it's rest for all the ignored sabbath years. The nation of Israel suffers for their own sin while ISRAEL rests - Israel is *NEVER* cut off and *NEVER* dies. ( *LEV **26:42**-43* Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and *I will remember the land* . 43 *The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them* : and *they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity* : because, even because they despised my judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes) - *THERE YOU HAVE IT* !
Israel is *EXILED FOR THEIR OWN SINS* and the *SINGULAR ISRAEL COUNTRY IS SPARED* ! *ISAIAH 53 is about THE MESSIAH* !
Ask yourself, "Why have Jews been in exile with no temple for 2000 years"? Must have done something hugely sinful for God to punish the people that bad.
So if *ISAIAH 59:20* states the *REDEEMER will come TO ISRAEL* and *ZECHARIAH **9:11* he comes with the *NEW BLOOD COVENANT* as promised by *JEREMIAH 31:31* and ISAIAH 59:6* says *YOUR WORKS WONT SAVE YOU*, then what is your plan for redemption? You need a *BLOOD ATONEMENT* as said in *LEVITICUS 17:11.
@@InspiredByEbonyLoveProve it
I have. There are parts that completely contradict the different servant being Israel as a collective @@charananekibalijaun8837
It’s literally like going back in time and taking one of the Pharisees with you, where he discovers RUclips and makes a channel. Lol
God bless you my brother Dr. Brown. Rabbi Singer is a spiritual illiterate, deaf and blind but make so much empty noise. Thank you so much. Shalom
According to the Christian Bible, the sacrificial system has come to an end, because Jesus is the final sacrifice. It says this in Hebrews chapter 10 verse 18 and Romans chapter 6
In Ezekiel 45 the Messiah (prince) will bring a sin offering for his own sins and the sins of the people in verses, 16-22. I would like to know from Christians why would the Messiah be bringing a sin offering on behalf of his own sins if the Messiah never sinned and is sinless?
@@jamilbiotech91 Thank you sweetheart for asking. Yes, the sacrificial system ended on that day that our sweet Lord Jesus Christ hung dead and bleeding on that Cross for us all and attested to by the VEIL of the Holy of Holies being rent from top to bottom by God our Father Himself [Matt 27:51-53] (ie God saying IT'S DONE, IT'S FINISHED, this is Now OBSOLETE, I don't need this anymore). Also, the True Messiah of God (Jesus Christ) is SINLESS. First because He was the BEGINNING OF THE NEW CREATION of God, that is His body was FORMED as a New Creation [NO FERTILIZATION, Mary's Ova was not involved and no sperms natural/supernatural. ie there was no fusing of any chromosomes ie (NOT [sperm + ova = embryo] AND NOT [ova + Supernatural sperm = embryo]) whatsoever. Jesus Christ was therefore neither a half or full son of Adam whatsoever, but He was the Lord from heaven (1 Cor 15:45-47). He was rather, 100% the Word of the Father FORMED in a Body of Flesh (John 1:14) ie (100% Word of the Father + 100% Spirit of the Father [the Holy Ghost] = JESUS CHRIST of Nazareth). Therefore, in reality Jesus Christ has no earthly Father nor Mother except God the Holy Spirit (Matt 1:8)] Melchizedek was a type of Him (Hebrew 7:3). He has no genealogy whatsoever, don't mind those in Matthew and Luke (those are FAITH genealogies). After His birth, His life was absolutely SINLESS unto His Death and Resurrection. So, He (Jesus Christ) was both sinless by conception and birth (Psalm 51:5) and lifestyle (Rom 3:23) before God the Father as God Himself testified "This is My Beloved Son in Whom I am well please". With no other Man right from Adam to all his descendants (all humanity) had/has God the Father ever been "WELL PLEASED".
Finally, Ezekiel 45:16 - 22 is NOT about the PRINCE (Messiah, the Prince of Peace [Isaiah 9:6] who Reigns for EVER) [please read from Ezekiel 44] AND it's not a future PROPHECY but rather, they were ORDINANCES AND STATUES for the temple worship that the LORD gave Ezekiel to give to not just ONE prince, BUT for all the PEOPLE, PRIESTS AND PRINCES of Israel to observe at that time NOT for the FUTURE. This was the commandment from the LORD for all the Princes of the Tribes of Israel and even any overall prince of the people then not the FUTURE. God bless you. Shalom!!!
@@danielukpong4675
You are mistaken greatly.
Ezekiel 45 speaks of the temple being fully restored.
In Ezekiel 44 the prince (the messiah) will have his own appointed land.
For you to say this isn’t a prophecy shows your lack of understanding the Hebrew Scriptures
Ezekiel 40-48 speaks of the temple being rebuilt
In chapter 40 Ezkeil describes the vision he is seeing:
”In visions of God he took me to the land of Israel and set me on a very high mountain, on whose south side were some buildings that looked like a city. He took me there, and I saw a man whose appearance was like bronze; he was standing in the gateway with a linen cord and a measuring rod in his hand. The man said to me, “Son of man, look carefully and listen closely and pay attention to everything I am going to show you, for that is why you have been brought here. Tell the people of Israel everything you see.”“
Ezekiel 40:2-4 NIV
How is this not a prophecy?
As for the order of Melchizedek,
The author of Hebrews has misconstrued Psalm 110 as a reference to Jesus. The biblically unsound arguments presented are vain attempts to prove that Jesus was more than a mere mortal. It is maintained that Jesus did not have the Aaronic priesthood, but did possess the Melchizedek priesthood and thereby could offer up himself as a sacrifice. The claim that Jesus held a priesthood “according to the order of Melchizedek” is irrelevant to any discussion of sacrifice made under the Torah. It is the Torah that Jesus is said to have fulfilled and nullified by offering up himself (Hebrews 7:27). The so-called “better covenant” (Hebrews 7:22) allegedly instituted by Jesus and its accompanying everlasting Melchizedek priesthood have to do with Christian beliefs concerning Jesus after his death. A non-Aaronic order of priesthood has no relevancy to the requirements of the Torah. Moreover, what are the ordinances of the priestly “order of Melchizedek”?
The New Testament claims that Jesus fulfilled and nullified the law by offering up himself as a sacrifice. According to the description it provides, this came about in a manner that runs counter to the Torah. Yet, the claim is made that everything Jesus did was in accordance with the Torah. This is a New Testament conundrum. To the rest of us, it is obvious that this New Testament claim has no basis in fact. Concerning the Messiah, God says: And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even My servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. And I the Lord will be their God. And My servant David prince among them; I the Lord have spoken. (Ezekiel 34:23-24) The Lord (Y-H-V-H) alone will be worshiped as God, while the Messiah, as the servant of God, lives with the people. God and the Messiah are not and cannot be equals, for it is God alone who gives the Messiah power to rule in that capacity as His appointed servant.
@@danielukpong4675
You are mistaken greatly. Ezekiel 45 speaks of the temple being fully restored. In Ezekiel 44 the prince (the messiah) will have his own appointed land. For you to say this isn’t a prophecy shows your lack of understanding the Hebrew Scriptures Ezekiel 40-48 speaks of the temple being rebuilt In chapter 40 Ezkeil describes the vision he is seeing: ”In visions of God he took me to the land of Israel and set me on a very high mountain, on whose south side were some buildings that looked like a city. He took me there, and I saw a man whose appearance was like bronze; he was standing in the gateway with a linen cord and a measuring rod in his hand. The man said to me, “Son of man, look carefully and listen closely and pay attention to everything I am going to show you, for that is why you have been brought here. Tell the people of Israel everything you see.”“ Ezekiel 40:2-4 NIV How is this not a prophecy? As for the order of Melchizedek, The author of Hebrews has misconstrued Psalm 110 as a reference to Jesus. The biblically unsound arguments presented are vain attempts to prove that Jesus was more than a mere mortal. It is maintained that Jesus did not have the Aaronic priesthood, but did possess the Melchizedek priesthood and thereby could offer up himself as a sacrifice. The claim that Jesus held a priesthood “according to the order of Melchizedek” is irrelevant to any discussion of sacrifice made under the Torah. It is the Torah that Jesus is said to have fulfilled and nullified by offering up himself (Hebrews 7:27). The so-called “better covenant” (Hebrews 7:22) allegedly instituted by Jesus and its accompanying everlasting Melchizedek priesthood have to do with Christian beliefs concerning Jesus after his death. A non-Aaronic order of priesthood has no relevancy to the requirements of the Torah. Moreover, what are the ordinances of the priestly “order of Melchizedek”? The New Testament claims that Jesus fulfilled and nullified the law by offering up himself as a sacrifice. According to the description it provides, this came about in a manner that runs counter to the Torah. Yet, the claim is made that everything Jesus did was in accordance with the Torah. This is a New Testament conundrum. To the rest of us, it is obvious that this New Testament claim has no basis in fact. Concerning the Messiah, God says: And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even My servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. And I the Lord will be their God. And My servant David prince among them; I the Lord have spoken. (Ezekiel 34:23-24) The Lord (Y-H-V-H) alone will be worshiped as God, while the Messiah, as the servant of God, lives with the people. God and the Messiah are not and cannot be equals, for it is God alone who gives the Messiah power to rule in that capacity as His appointed servant
The Servant in Isaiah 52:13 - Isaiah 53:12 is the Righteous Individual within Israel , Who is YeshuaHamoshiach ❤️
Do you mind if I prove to you what Dr. brown is saying is false ?
@@jamilbiotech91we dont mind . please begin
The servant of Isaiah 53 is the messiah according to the overall context of the hebrew Bible, specifically messianic prophecy
In Jer 23:5-6 God refers to The messiah as "The righteous branch who shall be called The Lord (YHVH) our righteousness" this undoubtedly proves the suffering servant is the Messiah
1. The suffering servant is the arm of The Lord
The suffering servant of Isaiah is the arm of the Lord. This means he has an intrinsic oneness with God. He and God are one in essence. Just as an arm is one flesh with the rest of the body, The servant and The Lord are one deity. meaning the servant is God.
That is why God said he shall be called The Lord (YHVH) our righteousness. Becaues he is YHVH
2. He is a tender plant that grows from tender ground
In v.2 the suffering servant is depicted as a plant who sprouts fourth, as a root that grew from dry ground.
This is a direct reference to the branch language used for the messiah all over scripture. As we read in Jer 23:5, he is referred to as the branch
3. He is righteous
In v.11 God says his servant is the righteous one. This is also a direct reference to other messianic prophecies. All over the hebrew bible, the messiah is said to be the righteous one. "a righteous branch.." (Jer 23:5)
Meaning, we are dealing with the same person
4. He makes many righteous
In v.11 God says that his suffering servant will make many righteous. This is directly confirmed in Jer 23:5-6 where the messiah is said to be "The Lord OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS"
This, without a doubt proves, the suffering servant is the Messiah
🚩 May The True Messiah, our Lord Jesus Christ Bless You!
Keep up the good work
Thank you Samson for that explanation. Really helps to put it all together
If we grant this, how then do you connect the messiah to Jesus?
@@Jay_in_Japan Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy.
@@zephyr-117sdropzone8 do you have the interpretation where you have to move around the order of events so the temple's destruction happens after the 490 years are over and everything in verse 27 happens before it, or the one where you still have to wait 37 years from year 483 from the killing of the anointed one to the destruction of the temple, but also even after that have an enormous unmentioned-in-the-prophecy gap of time before the last 7 year starts?
@@Greyz174 Actually the jewish sages came up with the 490 years. It's in Talmud. I posted it below.
TALMUD DANIEL 9:24-27
*Nazir 32b:6* The Gemara responds: Although they might have known that the Second Temple would be destroyed, as the verse speaks of three Temples, did they know when it would be destroyed? Would they have considered that it might occur in their lifetimes, preventing them from sacrificing their offerings? Abaye said: And did they not know when? But isn’t it written: “Seventy sevens are decreed upon your people and upon your sacred city” (Daniel 9:24), which indicates that the Second Temple would be destroyed seventy Sabbatical cycles of seven years after the destruction of the First Temple, which is *490 years* . The Gemara answers: And still, did we know on which day it would be destroyed? It was therefore impossible to use this factor as a means to broach the dissolution of their vows.
*TALMUD RABBINIC TEACHINGS DANIEL 9:24-27
*Medieval Jewish teacher Maimonides said* , " *Daniel has elucidated to us the knowledge of the end times* . However, since *they are secret* , *the wise [rabbis] have barred the calculation of the days of Messiah's coming so that the untutored populace will not be led astray when they see that the End Times have already come but there is no sign of the Messiah* " (Igeret Teiman, Chapter 3 p.24.)
*Rabbi Moses Abraham Levi said* , "I have examined and searched all the Holy Scriptures and have not found the time for the coming of Messiah clearly fixed, *except in the words of Gabriel to the prophet Daniel, which are written in the 9th chapter of the prophecy of Daniel* (The Messiah of the Targums, Talmuds and Rabbinical Writers, 1971) p.141-142.
*Targum of the prophets* ; Tractate Megillah 3a by Rabbi Jonathan ben Uzziel, we read: "And the (voice from heaven) came forth and exclaimed, who is he that has revealed my secrets to mankind?.. He further sought to reveal by a Targum the inner meaning of the Hagiographa (a portion of scripture which includes Daniel), but a voice from heaven went forth and said, enough! What was the reason?-- *because the date of the Messiah was foretold in it* !"
Jesus told the Pharisees that “Because they did not know the TIME OF THEIR VISITATION, the temple would be destroyed.
*LUKE 19:43-45* "For the days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation."
Targum also says *Isaiah 53* is about *The Messiah*
*Targum Jonathan* (an Aramaic translation) of the book of Isaiah, dating around the second century, says, “Behold, My servant the Messiah shall prosper.”33
Thank you for combating this man's words who is saying some huge claims against Messiah.
I heard Rabbi singer say this objection for years and since the first time I heard this it did not shake my faith because I immediately thought it’s not supposed to be talking about Jesus so Jesus comes along by mere chance and fulfills this perfectly beautifully that’s a really super big coincidence and a stretch don’t you think?
Praise Yeshua.....WE DO HAVE LIONS OF JUDAH LIKE DR, BROWN DEFENDING THE FAITH...
This is such an important video for Christians and Jews alike.
JESUS MESSIAH name above all names, Blessed Redeemer LORD OF ALL!
JESUS CHRIST IS THE MESSAIAH🙌❤️
THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD❣️
Great to see Dr. Brown refute Singers take on Isaiah. Singer does everything he can to deny Jesus Christ as the Messiah. He replaces him with a common man, a political peace maker well versed on Judaism who is yet to come.
Thank-you Dr Brown
So very informative, thank you Dr. Brown
Another point to make. When the preceding chapters refer to Israel as the servant they are also referring to the other nations as "they/them." For example, ch.49:1, "give attention you peoples," and ch.48:15 referring to the chaldeans as a person, "I have spoken and called him. " This is set up clearly in the verse, "Hear this, O house of Jacob, who are called by the name of Israel, and who came from the waters of Judah." Isaiah ch.48:1 God is speaking to Jacob/Israel and including the descendants in him.
But when He starts speaking of the descendents of Jacob as them, "he" can no longer refer to a group of people but am individual because the pattern is broken. If in ch.49:6, the servant is now bringing those of Israel back, "they" is no longer the nations, but now Israel itself. In fact, in verse 7 says this individual was despised by the "nation," singular, which must refer to Israel(or Judah). If he is spoken of in context of the nation, then the pattern of speaking of groups of people in the singular is broken.
Furthermore, this individual is like a new patriarch, "he shall see his offspring," ch.53:10. If he is a root out of Jesse, then he must grow into a strong tree. Is it any wonder that the Jews in the last days are confused at the number of the children of Abraham, like in ch.49:21? "Then you will say in your heart: ‘Who has borne me these? I was bereaved and barren, exiled and put away, but who has brought up these? Behold, I was left alone; from where have these come?’” This is the ingrafting of many Gentiles into the family of Israel, through the Messiah who is like a new patriarch, bringing us into the family.
But it seems it's all happened outside of the Jews' awareness. Will the Jews believe the report about the Messiah in ch.53:1? It speaks as though they've missed it. Or even in ch.49:8 they are predicted to miss it. "I will keep you(the Messiah) and give you as a covenant to the people," to Israel. But to indicate they didn't realize this fact, in ch.49:14, "But Zion said, 'The Lord has forsaken me; my Lord has forgotten me.'” It's as though they see the very thing given to them for the sake of the covenant and respond, "But the Lord has forsaken me."
The amazing thing is that the passage says even though the Jews don't realize it, Gentiles are now bearing children for Israel! Again, the verse, "Then you will say in your heart: ‘Who has borne me these? I was bereaved and barren, exiled and put away, but who has brought up these? Behold, I was left alone; from where have these come?’” But this is happening all over the world. Ch.49:23 - "Kings shall be your foster fathers, and their queens your nursing mothers."
God could not help but to give children to His beloved Israel. The suffering servant was given to ensure this. As he will see his offspring, and at that moment of judgment, the increase of children. "'Sing, O barren one, who did not bear; break forth into singing and cry aloud, you who have not been in labor! For the children of the desolate one will be more than the children of her who is married,' says the Lord."
Isaiah ch.54:1
The servant in Messiah had NO SIN in HIM - Israel is FULL OF SIN. Deuteronomy 18:15-19 Moses says God will raise up one from AMONG HUMANs one LIKE MOSES whom he will put the words in his his mouth - We must listen to him or lose our souls. Daniel 9:24-27 The MESSIAH was to be cut off BEFORE the destruction of the 2nd temple in 70 AD . Isaiah 9:6-7 Says the MEssiah will be GOD IN THE FLESH - A human called GOD, Isaiah 7:14 says the Messiah will be born to a virgin called Emmanual (GOD WITH US), Genesis 3:15 The woman's seed will defeat satan - not a mans seed - A HUMAN!!! God came in the Flesh and the Jewish people feared they would lose their land to the Romans so they crucified him - Isaiah 53, Psalm 22, Psalm 34:20, Psalm 16:10, Isaiah 26:19, Zechariah 12:10, Micah 5:2.
To read of the Messiah's geneology - again proving he would come as a human, visit these verses: Genesis 12:3 Genesis 22:18 (Messiah would come from line of Abraham), Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac. Genesis 17:19 Genesis 21:12, Messiah would be a descendant of Jacob. Numbers 24:17, Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah. Genesis 49:10, Messiah would be heir to King David's throne. 2 Samuel 7:12-13 Isaiah 9:7,.
***** MARY WAS ALSO FROM THE LINE OF DAVID *****
Read ISAIAH 53 again, in combination with all these Old Testament verses - then go read the New Testament Gospels and REPENT and get to know your SAVIOR - for your redeemer God did come into this world as FLESH John 1:1-14 as he was too HOLY to enter as he was - he had to take on the form of a human to die for you. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son (Psalm 2), that whosoever believes on him shall not perish but have ever lasting life.
***** OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE CONFIRMS MANY TIMES THAT THE MESSIAH WOULD COME AS A HUMAN *****
@@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus I agree with you. Jesus is my Savior. Israel is the failed servant in earlier chapters then the Messiah is THE servant who accomplishes the will of God.
@@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus he wasn't disagreeing
That was awesome! What did scholar/rabbis make of Isaiah 53 before Jesus arrived? Was there any thought that it was a Messianic prophecy before Jesus? Because I can't imagine them making much sense of it alongside their other, more kingly messianic beliefs.
yes there was. there were many messianic interpretations that were accepted and circulated before Yeshua's time... they were all pushed aside when Rabbinic Judaism was established ca. 100 AD.
Although the Qumran community , before the time of Jesus expected the coming of two Messiah. Messiah of Aaron ( high priest ) & Messiah of Israel ( the King) .
If you read the prophecy of Zechariah 6 , you see that Yoshua the High priest with a crown on his head is the representation of the Messiah ,the branch .
Messiah High priest comes first then Messiah of Israel the king comes after.
Many of them recognized this as a messianic prophecy. It wasn’t until later that they started trying to twist it.
They didn't want a king, they wanted a warrior. They denied him b/c his sword was a message of love. Jews wanted to conquer and enslave their enemies. Is.53 was taught to be the messiah for centuries until it was reinterpreted and removed from teaching in tabernacles.
So Dr. Brown, your basic argument is that in other passages, rabbinic commentators noted that the Messiah is being referenced. Therefore you conclude that chapter 53 is about the Messiah.
What does the rabbinic commentary say about chapter 53? If they said that it too were about the Messiah- then why would those rabbis continue to not accept Jesus as the Messiah? Could it be because Jesus didn't fulfill messianic prophecy?
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Well of course they weren't going to accept Jesus as the messiah since that meant conversion to Christianity. They would be expecting a Jewish and strictly Jewish Messiah.
Great word Dr. Brown, yet it is very clear that Philip knew what he was saying when he declared to the Eunuch that this person in Isaiah, was indeed Jesus.
“Now an angel of the Lord said to Philip, “Rise up and go toward the south on the way that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza.” This is desert. So he rose up and went. And there was a man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who was in command of her entire treasury. He had come to Jerusalem to worship. He was returning, sitting in his chariot and reading the book of Isaiah the prophet. The Spirit said to Philip, “Go to this chariot and stay with it.”
Then Philip ran to him, and heard him read the book of Isaiah the prophet, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”
He said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.
The passage of Scripture which he was reading was this:
“He was led as a sheep to slaughter;
and as a lamb before its shearer is silent,
so He opened not His mouth.
In His humiliation justice was denied Him;
who will speak of His generation?
For His life is taken from the earth.”
The eunuch said to Philip, “I ask you, of whom does the prophet speak, of himself or of someone else?” Then Philip spoke, beginning with the same Scripture, and preached Jesus to him.” Acts 8:26-35.
Its about the Sacrifice and Mercy of our Lord Jesus! By his Stripes we are Healed! Thank you Father for your ultimate Sacrifice for us so that we can have purpose and Truth. Forgive us for our Sins my Lord. May you receive All the Glory forever and Ever… I love you Lord Jesus. You are the Alpha and the Omega. The beginning and the End.
Thank you very much Dr. Brown..👏
Isaiah 11 vs Isaiah 53 prophecy of Jesus
Christians, recognizing that Isaiah 11 speaks of the Messiah and the messianic age attempt to apply it to Jesus. But, for this passage to have any connection to the life of Jesus it would need to be referring to his so-called first coming, and that is not the case. This prophecy concerns the “shoot” coming “out of the stock of David,” which would refer to the Messiah’s ancestry at the time of his birth not at a supposed second coming. And it should be noted that Davidic ancestry in general and lineal descent from the regal line in particular is not firmly established for Jesus by the pertinent New Testament narratives.
This presents a serious problem for the Christian interpretation of Isaiah 11. This chapter, which Christians identify with Jesus, gives a very positive and widely accepted leadership portrait of the individual described. It stands in stark contrast to the portrayal of the suffering servant of Isaiah 53:1-2, who Christians also identify with Jesus. The servant is portrayed in difficult circumstances, from his very beginning. Now, if Isaiah’s two prophecies (11:1 and 53:1-2) are both applied to Jesus, they would have to refer to his so-called first coming and this leads to an irreconcilable contradiction. The respective passages simply could not both be referring to one person and are mutually exclusive of each other. Some Christians divide this passage into two separate periods, one during Jesus’ lifetime and the other after his supposed future return following his death. Nonetheless, it is apparent that there is but one “coming” indicated in the passage. This is confirmed by verse 10 where all the events listed in verses 2-9 occur. There the individual spoken of is called, “a shoot of the stock of Jesse,” and typical of biblical poetic style parallel to this he is called “a branch out of his [Jesse’s] roots shall bear fruit.” This can only refer to one’s earthly existence and not to a supposedly resurrected divine being coming back at some future date. Christians claim that Jesus appeared first to offer a means of salvation for mankind. They then claim that he will return a second time, at which time he is supposed to judge and rule the world. This Christian explanation, however, has nothing in common with the text of Isaiah 11. The subject of this passage is not portrayed as a resurrected divine being returning to earth as its judge and king.
Some Christians claim that verse 2, “The spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him” was fulfilled at Jesus’ baptism (Matthew 3:16, Mark 1:10, Luke 3:22). This explanation also has no textual support. It is said that “God anointed him [Jesus] with the Holy Spirit and with power” (Acts 10:38; see also John 3:34). Are we to assume that Jesus, one-third of a triune deity, needed the “Spirit of God,” another one-third of the deity, to descend upon him by permission of still another one-third of this deity? The author of Acts claims that Jesus had the ability to do wonders because God anointed him and that “God was with him.” But, now, think about this! If Jesus was a coequal part of a triune God, he would not need to be anointed by another part of this God and have this other God “with him” in order to perform miracles. Even more so, if Jesus was God in any way, whatsoever, he could not stand in a relationship with God that is outside of God. If the New Testament Jesus, at any time, gave up any of his supposed pre-incarnation godly powers he could not be God in any ontological subdivision. God cannot be diminished or subdivided.
Christians choose those verses that they think have been fulfilled in a first coming by Jesus and leave the remainder to be fulfilled during a second coming. A perusal of the entire chapter 11 shows that there is no evidence to suggest a two part division within the prophecy. Needless to say, this passage has nothing to do with Jesus.
The national destiny and mission of Israel is embodied and fulfilled in their Messiah, so it makes perfect sense for Isaiah to speak of Israel as a nation as God's servant, and then apply these specific prophecies to Israel's Messiah who fulfills the mission of the nation. Isaiah 49 makes it clear, this servant/Israel's job is to bring the remnant of Jacob/Israel back to God, and the Gentiles as well. So this servant of the Lord, like Moses before him, is a single individual from the nation of Israel, who represents the nation before God, and carries the mission of Israel to completion.
Great response. Proverbs 18:17
Thank you for this teaching Dr Brown.
Thanks to Dr Brown.very clear
John, in the gospel of John confirms that this prophecy was about Jesus. John quotes Isaiah 53 when referring to Jesus.
John 12:37-38 “But although He had done so many signs before them, they did not believe in Him, 38 that the word of Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spoke: “Lord, who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”
I have been told the nations are the ones speaking in Isaiah 53, because they finally realise that their abuse of Israel is wrong towards the end.
This confuses me. I always thought it was the prophet speaking because of v1 "to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?"
Please can you help?
Singers whole demeanour and tone is that of hubris. Couple that with the proven examples of him giving false definitions of Hebrew words, twisting truths and straight lying - I don’t know why anyone listens to him.
Here’s proof from God that this talks about Israel
““ ‘So do not be afraid, Jacob my servant; do not be dismayed, Israel,’ declares the Lord. ‘I will surely save you out of a distant place, your descendants from the land of their exile. Jacob will again have peace and security, and no one will make him afraid. I am with you and will save you,’ declares the Lord. ‘Though I completely destroy all the nations among which I scatter you, I will not completely destroy you. I will discipline you but only in due measure; I will not let you go entirely unpunished.’ “This is what the Lord says: “ ‘Your wound is incurable, your injury beyond healing. There is no one to plead your cause, no remedy for your sore, no healing for you. All your allies have forgotten you; they care nothing for you. I have struck you as an enemy would and punished you as would the cruel, because your guilt is so great and your sins so many. Why do you cry out over your wound, your pain that has no cure? Because of your great guilt and many sins I have done these things to you. “ ‘But all who devour you will be devoured; all your enemies will go into exile. Those who plunder you will be plundered; all who make spoil of you I will despoil. But I will restore you to health and heal your wounds,’ declares the Lord, ‘because you are called an outcast, Zion for whom no one cares.’”
Jeremiah 30:10-17
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so you really have no clue on your belief do you? You don’t know your Bible?
Don’t listen to me listen to God. See below
“The Lord will scatter you among the peoples, and only a few of you will survive among the nations to which the Lord will drive you. There you will worship man-made gods of wood and stone, which cannot see or hear or eat or smell. But if from there you seek the Lord your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul. When you are in distress and all these things have happened to you, then in later days you will return to the Lord your God and obey him. For the Lord your God is a merciful God; he will not abandon or destroy you or forget the covenant with your ancestors, which he confirmed to them by oath.”
Deuteronomy 4:27-31 NIV
Do you understand now? When the Jews stopped filling Gods decrees he told them he will scatter them but will never forget them. This is the theme throughout the Hebrew Scriptures.
Here is Gods promise again
“As a shepherd looks after his scattered flock when he is with them, so will I look after my sheep. I will rescue them from all the places where they were scattered on a day of clouds and darkness. I will bring them out from the nations and gather them from the countries, and I will bring them into their own land. I will pasture them on the mountains of Israel, in the ravines and in all the settlements in the land. I will tend them in a good pasture, and the mountain heights of Israel will be their grazing land. There they will lie down in good grazing land, and there they will feed in a rich pasture on the mountains of Israel. I myself will tend my sheep and have them lie down, declares the Sovereign Lord. I will search for the lost and bring back the strays. I will bind up the injured and strengthen the weak, but the sleek and the strong I will destroy. I will shepherd the flock with justice. “ ‘As for you, my flock, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will judge between one sheep and another, and between rams and goats.”
Ezekiel 34:12-17 NIV
NO JESUS REQUIRED!!!
Because Israel is repeated called the servant in the book of Isaiah
@@V_George
If you read the text correctly, Isaiah is clearly telling us how the nations of the world will react when they witness the future messianic-redemption of the Jewish people. (Throughout the book of Isaiah, the Jewish people are referred to as the “Servant of G-d” and in the singular, e.g. Isaiah 41:8, Isaiah 49:3). First, they will be astonished, literally covering their mouths at what they see, because they never believed that they would witness the glorious redemption of a persecuted, rejected and despised Israel - which they themselves persecuted! Then, they will try to understand why this newly exalted Israel suffered so much. Originally they believed it was because G-d had rejected the Jews. Now that they see that this is not true, they will say that the suffering was the result of the transgressions of the nations (themselves) who persecuted the Jewish people.
Two points that are very important:
1.“He [Israel] was wounded because of (מ) our [the nations] transgression.” (Isaiah 53:5). In this verse the Hebrew letter (מ) means “because of” or “from.” It is never translated as “for” which would incorrectly indicate a vicarious atonement.
2. “For the transgression of my people they (למו) were stricken.” (Isaiah 53:8). The word they (למו) is plural (see Psalm 99:7) and clearly indicates that this verse does not refer to a single individual.
Another important detail to point out is that his chapter does not clearly identify Jesus of Nazareth. Even if we take the approach that the chapter does speak of Messiah, it could just as easily apply to anyone in history who suffered. How about Moses, Elijah the prophet?
The entire application to Jesus by missionaries is based on faith, but when carefully scrutinized it doesn’t prove anything.
One other point to emphasize, if you have time. In Matthew 16, we see that Jesus himself does not claim to be Messiah. Jesus asks his disciples, “Who do you think I am?” One answers “Elijah,” another, that he is John the Baptist. Peter thinks he is the Messiah. However, when Jesus then says that he must go up to Jerusalem, be killed, and resurrected on the third day. Peter rebukes him “God forbid it, lord, this shall never happen to you.”
One may ask “Why does Peter need to rebuke Jesus?” If, indeed he is the promised messiah, then Peter, no doubt familiar with Isaiah 53, should have had no problem. Yet, since neither he, nor any other apostle of Jesus knew of any strange concept of Messiah suffering, dying, and being resurrected, they did not see Isaiah 53 as being a definitive passage containing information defining the “suffering servant” and vicarious atonement role of Messiah.
@@V_George you are completely ignoring the the theme of the book of Isaiah. It’s a book of warning and hope.
God explains in deuteronomy what will
Happen if the Jews disobey Gods commands:
”The Lord will scatter you among the peoples, and only a few of you will survive among the nations to which the Lord will drive you. There you will worship man-made gods of wood and stone, which cannot see or hear or eat or smell. But if from there you seek the Lord your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul. When you are in distress and all these things have happened to you, then in later days you will return to the Lord your God and obey him. For the Lord your God is a merciful God; he will not abandon or destroy you or forget the covenant with your ancestors, which he confirmed to them by oath. You were shown these things so that you might know that the Lord is God; besides him there is no other. From heaven he made you hear his voice to discipline you. On earth he showed you his great fire, and you heard his words from out of the fire. Acknowledge and take to heart this day that the Lord is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other. Keep his decrees and commands, which I am giving you today, so that it may go well with you and your children after you and that you may live long in the land the Lord your God gives you for all time.“
Deuteronomy 4:27-31, 35-36, 39-40 NIV
Then when the Jews are exiled for disobeying God then he will save the ones who are faithful:
”“Therefore say to the Israelites, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes. “ ‘For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws. Then you will live in the land I gave your ancestors; you will be my people, and I will be your God. I will save you from all your uncleanness. I will call for the grain and make it plentiful and will not bring famine upon you. I will increase the fruit of the trees and the crops of the field, so that you will no longer suffer disgrace among the nations because of famine. Then you will remember your evil ways and wicked deeds, and you will loathe yourselves for your sins and detestable practices. I want you to know that I am not doing this for your sake, declares the Sovereign Lord. Be ashamed and disgraced for your conduct, people of Israel! “ ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On the day I cleanse you from all your sins, I will resettle your towns, and the ruins will be rebuilt. The desolate land will be cultivated instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass through it. They will say, “This land that was laid waste has become like the garden of Eden; the cities that were lying in ruins, desolate and destroyed, are now fortified and inhabited.” Then the nations around you that remain will know that I the Lord have rebuilt what was destroyed and have replanted what was desolate. I the Lord have spoken, and I will do it.’ “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Once again I will yield to Israel’s plea and do this for them: I will make their people as numerous as sheep, as numerous as the flocks for offerings at Jerusalem during her appointed festivals. So will the ruined cities be filled with flocks of people. Then they will know that I am the Lord.”“
Ezekiel 36:22-38 NIV
@@V_George
According to the Christian Bible, the sacrificial system has come to an end, because Jesus is the final sacrifice. It says this in Hebrews chapter 10 verse 18 and Romans chapter 6
In Ezekiel 45 the Messiah (prince) will bring a sin offering for his own sins and the sins of the people in verses, 16-22. I would like to know from you why would the Messiah be bringing a sin offering on behalf of his own sins if the Messiah never sinned and is sinless?
8, .....for the transgression of My People(Israel) , was HE(Jesus) stricken.
The " my ,I " ( first singular person ) refers to God .
" my people " " his people ' throughout the chapters leading to 53 only refers to " Israel" .
Don't lie brother
King David is called God’s Servant (Isaiah 37:35),
@@catbilota2492 where it says that David will be lifted up then his suffering brought healing ??
@@nashashbel6922 I mean to say there is not 1 servent i.e israel in the full chapter of Isaiah , it has more servents including messaih .
Here is another passage that clearly shows that “My Servant” isn’t always about the whole of Israel but is referring to one person, in this context it’s referring to Isaiah:
Isaiah 49:5-6
5 And now, saith the Lord that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the Lord, and my God shall be my strength.
6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
Majority opinion doesn’t make something true.
Saying x rabbinic tradition says multiple servants, doesn’t nullify y rabbinic tradition that says there is one servant.
You are appealing to majority opinion/authority which is never an acceptable form of argumentation
You can apply it to remnant of Israel that ALWAYS existed even when Israel as a majority went astray.
Was Daniel and his companions not part of that remnant?
The remnant always will suffer the consequences of the majority. Just like a child will suffer the consequences of the parents choices.
The suffering servant is The Lord Jesus Christ. The Son of God!
Thanks Dr.Brown for the explanation. I'm a simple gentile, but it never made sense to me that 'The suffering servant' in Isaiah should be regarded as 'Israel' (or the remnant). I've read comments by Jews who claimed the suffering servant is Jacob, or even Antipas(????). So the person referred to can be anyone to them, except Jesus of Nazareth.
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This is a very poor response. It’s very odd that you’re so willing to point out the the messiah is in Isaiah 42, but you avoid the entire passage which speaks on what the messiah is supposed to do upon that arrival. In Isaiah 42 it literally states that this servant will bring justice in all lands and that he will not be defeated or weakened. He will fulfill his duty of bringing peace to isreal and conquer other nations. So yes Isaiah 42 speaks of the messiah but does that fit the same narrative of Isaiah 53? No. Absolutely not. So therefor Isaiah 53 is the “suffering servant” and Isaiah 42 is the righteous servant aka the messiah.
Yet ancient Jewish authorities including Maimonides assert Isaiah 53 refers to King Messiah!
@@stephenglasse9756 associate the prophecy with the person and does the person fit? Has he completed everything mentioned? Is there peace amongst all nation? Is Isreal regathered and striving? Is Edom destroyed? Is the messiah on his throne? You pick and choose what you want but leave out everything else? Do you think Maimonides has more authority, reverence or credibility over rabbis like Akiva, Eleazar, Yahuah, etc? No.
@@travisallen4907 maybe he does🤔. After all do not Jews say, "from Moses unto Moses there was none like Moses"?
And it's not just Moses Maimonides but the Talmud, the Zohar and Rabbi ibn Crispin. And did not Maimonides criticise Rashi's attempt to interpret it of Israel rather than the Messiah saying this was not the view of Jewish consensus? Or was Maimonides lying?
Clearly Messiah couldn't have fulfilled the prophecies concerning the restoration of Israel because THEY REJECTED HIM! Who do you think fulfils the criteria of Isaiah 53?
@@stephenglasse9756 bro you’re invalidating generations of rabbi with Maimonides? There are so many well revered and followed rabbis that disapprove of what you’re presenting and you really don’t understand the moses to moses saying huh? You discrediting Rashi but what about the several others that preexist. The zohar doesn’t even agree with you either because it’s very obvious that if they did they’d be Christians. As I said stop picking and choosing, and actually speak about stuff in their entirety. Where did any prophecy in the Bible say the messiah will fail? Since you wanna say he didn’t fulfill that part of the prophecy doesnt that disqualify him from the position? Doesn’t that mean that Jesus isn’t what the prophets talk about?
@@travisallen4907 you mention Akiva but Akiva apparently regarded Simon bar Kochba as the Messiah.
It's not invalidating generations of rabbi's if those rabbi's agreed Isaiah 53 refers to the Messiah and you haven't established that they didn't! On the contrary Moses Maimonides one of the most revered Jewish authorities author of the Mishnah Torah and Guide for the Perplexed stated 53 most certainly does refer to Messiah as did Nachmanides the babylonian Talmud and the Zohar stating that all israel's sickness and chastisement is made to rest on him citing Isaiah 53. A Jew would not be a Christian just because they accept that 53 refers to the Messiah - that's a ludicrous argument. Maimonides wasn't a Christian. It's true that great scholars like Rashi disagreed but then he also thought it referred to the nation which as Dr Brown argues cannot be true.
The Rabbi reminded his countrymen that "you are the light of the world " Matt 5:14. Now if these two Jews, Singer, and Brown can't even agree on which path to take, where does that leave the rest of us gentiles and barbarians?
Thank you!!
What must be understood is that God had to transition from 'animal sacrifices' for the forgiveness of sin to the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus Himself, the Messiah, for the forgiveness of sin. For the wages of unforgiven sin is death. Today, I am not aware of how Jews receive the forgiveness of their sins, let me know.
The servant is the messiah, in v.8 the speaker says he suffered for the sin of my people. this shows the speakers cannot be the rest of the world. because it would be strange for the people to say "my people" meaning the speaker is the prophet. the prophet is the one who says, the servant suffered for my people. thus, making the speakers from v.1-6, the jewish nation. the prophet speaking on behalf of the nation
the jewish people thought this servant was the accursed one, one that was stricken by God. but in reality he was the arm of the lord who died for their sin. Jesus is Lord! keep up the good work
Sounds like that
Hey, thank you for your awesome work! I have a question, in Isaiah 42:6 it says I have created you in reference to the messiah... Yeshua is uncreated, as he's Yahweh himself, so I dont fully understand how he could be created. Hope you see this
Unfortunately for his position, Dr. Brown makes the mistake of conflating the Past with the Future. He mistakes Isaiah reminding Israel of its past sins (Isa. 42, 43, 47, 48... and most notably from Isa. 50.1) with the future events he prophesied in Isa. 53.
Beginning at 5:18, Dr. Brown recites time after time where Isaiah recounts God's "Servant", Israel, suffering for the disobedience of others within it. Most especially, as Dr. Brown states here re: Ch. 50:1 ... "God's indictment is forthright: '...for your iniquities you were sold, and FOR YOUR TRANSGRESSIONS YOUR MOTHER WAS SENT AWAY.' " Now, was the "mother" here guilty of those sins? Or was "she", an innocent, sent away for the sins of others? For "...your (Israel's) transgressions"? And yet... was not that metaphorical "mother" also of Israel? Of course she was; as were all other mothers like her in the Exile. Yet she was forced to pay for the sins of her children, despite being innocent of them.
Bingo! This is exactly what we find Isaiah then prophesying in Isa. 53... that the "Servant" will, in like manner, be forced to suffer for the transgressions of others in Israel. Isaiah is letting Israel know that ... just as in the past, Israel forced ALL in Israel (e.g., mothers) to suffer for the disobedience of others... the innocent for the guilty... so also will the "Servant" (the innocent in Israel at that future time) be likewise made to suffer for the transgressions of others.
Look... it's so very simple: Isaiah repeatedly used the term "Servant" throughout his book to mean "Israel"... no question. And ironically, Dr. Brown agrees with that. Thus, had Isaiah meant a different meaning for the term in Isa. 53 (i.e., "Messiah"), then that's the term he would have used. He sure as hell wouldn't have used the same term for "Israel" he had been exclusively using at every instance... to suddenly mean something completely different in only one chapter! To do so would be to ensure confusion and misinterpretation... which is exactly what Christians do by so claiming.
And finally, as I have pointed out again and again... as also does Rabbi Singer... Isa. 53.10 proves it's not "Jesus"... for "Jesus" never saw His own "seed" (biological offspring) nor were His days in mortality "prolonged"... as was promised the "Servant." This ONLY makes sense if the Servant is "Israel" in the future... when during the Messianic Age, they are fully restored, when they shall be reunited with their long-lost offspring dispersed throughout the world (e.g., "lost" Ten Tribes) and their days will be "prolonged" for no longer forced to suffer And finally, as I have pointed out again and again... as also does Rabbi Singer... Isa. 53.10 proves it's not "Jesus"... for "Jesus" never saw His own "seed" (biological offspring) nor were His days in mortality "prolonged"... as was promised the "Servant." This ONLY makes sense if the Servant is "Israel" in the future... when during the Messianic Age, they are fully restored, when they shall be reunited with their long-lost offspring dispersed throughout the world (e.g., "lost" Ten Tribes) and their days will be "prolonged" for no longer suffering antisemitism and all its horrors Israel has been forced to endure for millennia. and all its horrors Israel has been forced to endure for millennia.
Jews understand that Isaiah has an antiphonal style when he refers to Israel the nation at one point and the Messiah the next. Yet they still deny Isaiah 53 refers to the Messiah because it's too great an indictment of the rejection of the New Testament Christ.
For Tovia, I bring this to him. Ruth 4:12 " And let thy house be like the house of Phares....
Maimonides (aka Rambam) also identifies Isaiah 42:1 (as well as the end of 52, and 53) as referring to the Messiah. See his "Letter to Yemen"
I like the new look of the background!
What happened to the MESSENGER that was sent? When did he become God?
I love how every time Dr. Brown thinks that “my servant” doesn’t mean the Jewish people, that it automatically means Jesus. Like, where? Show me one. ONE place in the Old Testament that it says Jesus and I’m in church tomorrow
It is the descendant of David, the annointed one!!!
Any one who argues Isaiah 53 needs to know that THERE IS NO RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE IN ISRAEL - ALL PEOPLE ARE SINNERS. ONLY THE MESSIAH WAS SIN FREE BECAUSE GOD CANNOT SIN!!!! These false teachers do not even believe Moses! Deuteronomy 18:15-19 God says to Moses that he will raise up a prophet like Moses and put his words in his mouth - Those who do not listen will lose their souls. Daniel 9:24-27 says the Messiah comes before the 2nd temple destruction. ISAIAH 9:6-7, ISAIAH 7:14, GENESIS 3:15, DANIEL 7:9-14 - ALL SAY THE MESSIAH WILL BE A HUMAN!!!! What doesn't Tovia get?
Thank you God for men like Dr. Brown who speak the truth
Dr Brown trying his best to convinced that Isaiah 53 is about jesus because himself is a Christian. A jew will interpret differently.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 👉👉👉 FROM THE HORSES MOUTH (Tovia Singer)* I thought it was ISRAEL?😲😲😲😲 Weren't Christians Corrupt to think that it was about a person?😲😲😲
“In rabbinic thought, all of God’s faithful, gentiles included (Zechariah 13:8-9), endure suffering on behalf of God (Isaiah 40:2; Zechariah 1:15). Thus, Jewish leaders of the past, such as Moses12 and Jeremiah,13) Rabbi Akiva,14 as well as future eschatological figures, such as 👉 *the messiah ben Joseph* 👈 and 👉 *the messiah ben David* 👈, are held up in rabbinic literature as individuals who exemplify the “servant” who willingly suffers on behalf of Heaven.”
“When Isaiah speaks of the suffering remnant of Israel,
👉 *the messianic king* 👈 is, therefore, included. The final heir of David’s throne is an integral member of the pious of Israel. This is, according to rabbinic interpretation, the pshat, or the plain meaning of the text in Isaiah 52:13 - 53:12.”
“In order to shed much-needed light on the famed Servant Songs, numerous rabbinic commentators hold up Jewish heroes as a paradigm of Isaiah 53’s “servant.” Accordingly, while on one hand the Talmud, Zohar, and other ancient rabbinic texts state explicitly that the “servant” of Isaiah 53 refers to the faithful of corporate Jewry,16 the same sources frequently point to renowned saints of Israel as an archetype of the Suffering Servant. These virtuous individuals include saints such as Moses, Elijah, Jeremiah,
👉 *the messiah the son of Joseph and David* 👈 - each of them embodies perfect examples of God’s servant, the righteous remnant of Israel.”
“Bear in mind that the rabbinic commentary on Isaiah 53 is not dualistic or multilateral. Meaning, the sages of old did not suggest that Isaiah 53 refers to either the righteous remnant of Israel, Moses, Jeremiah, or an anointed leader. Rather, the servant in all four Servant Songs are the faithful descendants of Abraham. Isaiah 53 attests to unprecedented worldwide repentance of all of mankind - a redemptive achievement accomplished by no other saint in history. Therefore, rabbinic commentators
👉 *tend to lift up the messiah’s name more frequently* 👈 than the names of other faithful servants of God.”
*Tovia Singer*
*Outreach Judaism*
Who is David referring to in Psalm 2:12? Is that also Jesus? He says "Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him." when speaking of God.
Have to concur, stunning reasoning
Do you mind if I prove to you what Dr. brown is saying is false ?
Tovia is pure lier 😂 he should be ashamed , even king David is decent 😂
Interesting how you didn’t finish reading the passage verse 10. Why dont you read the last sentence lol. It says clearly there is no other GOD but me looooool. You can read it when you bring up the passage. So why didnt you read the rest of the verse????? It proves you know it goes against your beliefs of the Man God other wise you would not have an issue finish reading it. Heres the full passage
Isaiah 43:10
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
I'm doing a series of videos to debunk Tovia Singer if you are interested. Isaiah 53 has already been posted on my channel.
Also the following verses make it clear that the Messiah would be born as a human and be called "God with Us". John 1::14 The word was made flesh and dwelled among us.
ISAIAH 9:6 - "A Child is born - will be called ALL MIGHTY GOD"
ISAIAH 7:14 - "Unto us a child is born - a SON is given, and his name shall be called Immanuel (GOD WITH US).
*God took on the form of a human, because people would die if they saw him as he is - Deuteronomy 18:15-19 told us he would do this *
Also to fulfill prophesy as per GENESIS 3:15, THE REDEEMER (GOD) had to be a human.
**Psalm 111:9 He (GOD) has SENT redemption to His people; He has ordained His covenant forever; Holy and awesome is His name.**
@רחבעם did any of those rabbis who taught it as messiah refer this to yeshu the nazarene? especially cause they were all after him you would think they would see that? if so why would u think they did not?
Rabbis claimed that humans sacrifice dont exist in Thora . Well, why righitous part of Israel die for others sins? By that interpretation they confirmed ,(not directly of corse) that innocents should die for others , even Isshaia 53 is not about Messiah. I suppous they will try take this passage metaphoriclly (read: spiritual) but is exactly how death of Yeshua was necesery not litarally on the altar but spiritually to fullfil spirtual law wchich is hidden in Thora. Sorry my English learnng is in progress :)
Yes and Besides it saying "For the transgression of MY PEOPLE He was stricken"isaiah 53 is not Israel as the suffering servant. Read these proofs right here:isiaah 53: 9He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with a rich man in His death,
although He had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in His mouth."Jeremiah 11:10
They have returned to the sins of their forefathers who refused to obey My words. They have followed other gods to serve them. The house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken the covenant I made with their fathers."Jeremiah 3:8,22
And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also…"Ezekiel 8:17
"Son of man," He said to me, "do you see this? Is it not enough for the house of Judah to commit the abominations they are practicing here, that they must also fill the land with violence and continually provoke Me to anger? Look, they are even putting the branch to their nose!
Ezekiel 44:6
Tell the rebellious house of Israel that this is what the Lord GOD says: 'I have had enough of all your abominations, O house of Israel.' Deut 32:28Israel is a nation devoid of counsel,
with no understanding among them.
29If only they were wise, they would understand it;
they would comprehend their fate.
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36For the LORD will vindicate His people
and have compassion on His servants
when He sees that their strength is gone
and no one remains, slave or free.;
“One man will die for the nation”
Yeshua represents the nation
Human sacrifice for atonement? Not possible and not acceptable to God
Clifford Gallegos
Define human sacrifice that is not acceptable to God
@@Mikha335 why you don't know this?
Clifford Gallegos
I understand that child sacrifice is against God’s law, but if what you are calling “human sacrifice” fits that description, that’s not what happened in the case of Yeshua. So I don’t see the correlation you are trying to make or how it would apply. Yeshua’s “sacrifice” is in the context of Isaiah 53. Is that a
passage describing an unlawful sacrifice?
@@Mikha335 well who told you that that particular chapter speaks of jesus? Christians assumption...
Again human sacrifice is ABOMINABLE to God...
sincere question if 42 is Jesus how can it be because it says that servant was created and they call him isreal?I'm confused
The reason it "fits" is because this is the gentile kings speaking. It isn't God speaking there.
How does Isaiah 43:10 44:1-9 fit in I think you either accept Christ or you don’t Isaiah 53 uses the word MAN to refer to the nation of Israel according to Jews as well as the claim the Jewish Bible and the Christian Bible are rearranged following The Book of Isaiah and this is used as an important point because apparently the book after is supposed to be a continuation of the previous Book.
Who says that the Jewish people died for the sins of others? That’s not at all. What it says. In fact, the opposite is true. The Bible forbid people dying for the sins of others.
Tell me did this suffering servant messiah inspire the creation of ANTISEMITISM as Jesus did is such an eventuality associated scripturally with messiah yes or no ?
Balaam
Balaam was not a Jew and would not speak against the Israelites yet he had the authority to speak as a prophet, today there are prophets who have had true theophanies and glorious revelations, who would never deny Israel's right, in fact they would endorse Israel and the people in Israel as the *Children of God* Christians are envious of Jewish salvation, thinking that Jews have to convert to Christianity but they don't, Christianity came about because one enlightened man and the generation he grew up in knew they had to expand the ability of God to create *a superhighway for souls* that the Children of God would come to God in the arms of *KINGS who would be their foster fathers, and Queen's who would be their Nursing mothers* as recorded in Isaiah 49, which also records Israel as *You are my servant Israel in whom I shall be Glorified*
The new Testament states that Jesus Christ identified Elijah in John the Baptist and John the Baptist identified Israel redivivus in Jesus (the lamb of God) where he said _John answered them, “I baptize with water; but among you stands one whom you do not know,_ 27 *even he who comes after me, the thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie.” 28* This took place in Bethany.
John the Baptist therefore states that he recognised Jesus as Israel when he was present in Elijah, even though Israel lived 1200 years before him, as confirmed by Isaiah, salvation of the Jews is *The preserved of Jacob are redeemed in Israel*
The Old Testament provides reincarnation as a mean of Redemption.
_Zechariah 13:9
And I will put this third into the fire, and refine them as one refines silver, and test them as gold is tested. They will call on my name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are my people’; and they will…. _
The New Testament also states that a person has opportunities to be reborn *but a time comes when they can no longer die anymore, but must become children of God* celestial beings and then be judged.
As Christians they must have the Jewish spiritual blood for transformation which Jesus Christ gives.
Luke 20:36
_36 for they cannot die any more, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection._
The following text of Luke 20 (37) confirms the salvation which the Jews enjoyed from Moses.
The New Testament was written by dedicated Jews who were including the family if Abraham as centra in the lineage of Jesus but they also revered King David as Jesus ancestry and the Christian Church has avoided any belief in reincarnation as a pathway to Resurrection and Ascension because to understand that subject in the light of Scripture brings the believer directly to the knowledge that Jesus and (Jacob) are Israel.
Judgement for an Israelite and a Christian are the same they must stand before the Divine Word of God and hear his testimony of salvation which is Revelation, Jesus does not take part in Judgement nor does Almighty God, because a person could not bear it.
*Jesus Christ does not Judge*
John 8:15
_You judge according to the flesh, I judge no one._
John 8:50
_Yet I do not seek my own glory; there is One who seeks it and he will be the judge._
John 12:47
_If any one hears my sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world._
John 5:221-23
_21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will. 22 _*_The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honour the Son,_*_ even as they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who sent him._
It is a great honour to be judged and confirms that we have had multiple opportunities for rebirth but we are now at *the end of the world* in the presence of a personage of overwhelming purity a purity that confirms in us how far removed we are from Him who has to deal with us. Like Job He asks *who are you to stand before me and darken my counsel* and *Are you great? Only the great can pass me by*
This can happen in this life or after it.
After a length of time in which you are left with the wrath of God on you, you may be allowed to see God the Father but you see him in Jesus Christ You see the glory of God in Him, this is called the *Beatific Vision.* This can cause concern in the soul, because the Christian religion states that Jesus is the Judge this is not true, but he can *pray the spirit for us* the Son who is the Spirit of Truth and Divine Word manifests himself as a *Glittering great two edged Sword* this is not Jesus but Jesus Christ in the Beatific Vision is ALSO Israel.
Judgement is a non-trinitarian event
Nobody said it's talking about now..??
Even Achan, who stole from the spoils of Jericho is referred to as Israel
There are things Tovia Singer says that are true, for example Jesus does not save you, if that were so Jesus would have to judge you, Jesus tells us *that He does not Judge* it is God the Son who is the Divine Word who judges and un doing so saves.
Judgement is a non-trinitarian event.
Doesn't the word Zera that is translated as seed mean physical not spiritual seed?
The righteous remnant of Israel!!! 🇮🇱
Please sit with rabbis and decide it's remnant or Israel 😂
Sorry, but Rabbi singer is the most accurate until today. At then Israel is the remanent!
Both Jews and Christians have to open their eyes and accept reincarnation, and also a higher reincarnation where Jesus is called the Son of Man, this in John 3:31 means that Israel is a man who has lived died and dwelt in Paradise then he Ascended, the Isaiah dialogues are Divine Councils in which Israel is being evangelised to accept another incarnation.
Dr. Brown layin' the smack down!
Do you mind if I prove to you what Dr. brown is saying is false ?
Judaism is right. Tanakh is not about JC. JC is for those who choose to believe in the invention of New Testament.
Can anyone respond to the claim, supposedly from Tovia Singer, that Isaiah 53 v 7 and v 8 should not be translated "HE" at the beginning of the verse because the hebrew word translated there is a plural not a singular? This is a kind of conspiracy theory accusation that christian bibles have conspired to mistranslate the hebrew there.
I have a question for you Dr. Brown, in this video you say that Rabbi Singer claims that the suffering servant of chapter 53 is the righteous remnant, and is narrated by Israel as a whole. However, in the videos i have watched of his, he says the suffering servant is not only the righteous remnant, but instead ALL of Israel, and the narrator of the passage are the gentile kings mentioned in the previous chapter.
So i’m confused, Did he switch his standpoint on the passage?
Tovia changes his stance depending on the situation
It is my impression from messianic Jews like Dr Brown and other regulars that Rabbi Singer lies a lot, sometimes intentionally given how many times Dr Brown addresses him
is God speaking, and He says about the servants "he grew before me" (clearly God speaking), and then God says that the servant is hurt "for the sins of My people" (God's people). clearly not about the gentile kings
God's suffering servant is israel. Read the book of Isaiah in context.
Christians take chapters and verses from the bible out of context. Reading the bible out of context is Dangerous.
I my self am an ex Christian who was devoted in worshipping Christ. But When I saw rabbis videos and started reading the bible for myself i came to know the truth.
You have to go back to the renaming of Jacob to get it. When he identifies Jacob as Israel, it’s revealing something much deeper. He always referred to Israel in the singular because god only has one son on this earth at a time. He was Moses, the servant called out of Egypt then. Jacob still wrestles with god. So what you see in Isa 53 is the prodigal son repenting and seeing the light of day. He goes on to have children and live a long life. Who is it? Who else but Adam? So you see two separate lives described in Isa 53 and they’re both the same individual. It’s mostly describing this life for that suffering servant who is now cast out and shunned and lived the life described there. In prison just like Joseph cast there by his own family. Like David eluding his enemies and facing his own Goliaths. This was laid on that suffering servant in this life only it wasn’t over an Easter weekend. Adam has been suffering since the foundation and only he can unseal Rev and Daniel to vindicate the prophets and Jesus. It’s not all Israel but it’s also not just Jesus and the sacrifice he made. He was only the first Atonement goat. Adam lives in the wilderness the scapegoat. The caregiver set him free but the goat chooses to stay. He surrendered all rights to normalcy and been hated since birth. It pleased god to lay this on him for the sake of Israel. The truth will set them free once they see it was never on them to save the world. They were his witnesses preserving the prophets and that’s the extent of their contributions. We won’t be needing to grab their shirttails take us to Jerusalem. Because Adam is the apple of gods eye he’s paved the way for the rest of us. Israel no longer wrestles with god but that nation is now in peril and their future not so settled. Rabbinical Judaism is in part Mystery Babylon. It’s already been determined. Shiloh is the grandson of David but not through his son. The scepter will depart completely from Judah once the promises to David are fulfilled and a gentile king will be his heir. God literally named him so there would be no doubts anymore and the Jewish people can stop worshipping their own image. Blame Tovia and those wicked rabbis for their replacement theology trying to replace that suffering servant. It was always only about the redemption of Adam.
This regardless what Rabbi Singer says. It sounds like youre rejecting what Isaiah specifically said from HASHEM. though Israel sinned , after the fact HASHEM STILL CALLS THE SERVANT RIGHTEOUS. Youre going backwards from the message to justify idolatry. Youre going against The Word of HASHEM. Will say also go against what its in Proverbs? Pro 24:16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief. notice the difference between “the just” and the wicked.
@@MTDMP When exactly did GOD call Israel righteous servant? Not even Moses, Abraham or David were called “righteous servant”
@@pepepena1937 Israel is the servant, that’s pretty clear and in context,on what Isaiah himself wrote directed by HASHEM: Look it up. Isaiah 41:8 , Isaiah 44:1 Isaiah 44:21 Isaiah 45:1, Isaiah48:20 Jeremiah 30:10.. and so on. That’s pretty clear and you do not have to jump any hoops with this. If you’re trying to look for a ‘term” righteousness Israel” then you’re looking under rocks to try to “justify the idolatry of the NT. Jesus wasn’t a righteous person… Pablo “made him look “righteous. that is Another man trying to condemn and have other men fall into idolatry. and Based The Tanach and in ***context*** with Isaiah’s writing (knowing he is not going to contradict himself ro HASHEM) Israel is called “righteous” and servant”. Isaiah 53:11 , Isaiah 26:2 and also Psalm 14:3-5 and see how HASHEM makes a difference between evil-doers and the his people, that are righteous. The answers are straight in the text.
Dr Brown, if Isaiah 53 is truly about the Messiah and you truly believe its Jesus why don't we see any of the Christian claims about the Messiah anywhere in Isaiah 53 or anywhere in the book of Isaiah or the other Jewish Prophets? For example where does Isaiah or any of the prophets describe this suffering servant as
a) divine or part of a trinity
b) someone who would return in a 2nd coming
c) someone who we must put our faith in him so our sins would be forgiven and what the consequences would be if we failed to do so
d) someone who had a special and unique resurrection
e) someone who's messiahship would be proven based on the miracles he performed or will perform.
These are major claims about the Messiah yet when you go through all the Jewish prophecies where both Jewish and Christian scholars are in full agreement that speak about the Messiah not one passage mentions anything about a 2nd coming, about this person being divine or having a special and unique resurrection or one of the criteria for identifying who the Messiah is would be based on the miracles he performed or will perform.
Can you explain why this is?
You are focusing in what is not said of Jesus in the Old Testament instead of focusing of what has been prophesied already in detail. Who are you to tell God how much he needs to reveal of a certain event in history to be true?
With that logic, all prophecies would be false as they lack of more information when the information already given predicted the event, that is intellectually dishonest
All the words on Isaiah 53 fit perfectly with Jesus because is talking about him, is totally imposible that with the amount of information this passages gives it was all a coincidence, unless there was other explanation to this passage but this video just refuted it.
I found this video because I want to find the truth of Jesus and I really can conclude after a lot of research and analysis of this prophecy that if this passage is not talking about Israel (which is not as the video has demonstrated), only Jesus can fulfill it.
Please just open your mind and heart and think about how improbable is that Isaiah 53 was all a coincidence. Don’t let all your past beliefs make you biased about this, this is what it was happening to me and didn’t let me find the truth but when you analyze this totally objectively there is no way is not talking about Jesus. Please take this advice as it already happened to me, believe in Jesus and be saved🙏
Israel is the suffering servant…49:3
Isaiah did not refer to the nation of Israel but to the descendants of Jacob(Israel) whom most of them were rebellious towards God. So God sent the prophets to warn the descendants of Jacob to bow to and faithful to God. So the prophets predicted the coming of Messiah who could lead the descendants of Jacob(Israel) living with full respect and faithful to God, not to dominate other mankind selfishly. Definitely, God is not selfish just to love the nation of Israel alone but to love the descendants of Jacob and other mankind/races.
So what you're saying is that Jesus is the servant and not YHWH? You didn't make the point that YHWH is Jesus, you seemed to set that fact aside to show Jesus is the servant, but if he is the servant he cannot be YHWH. We're still confused.
Tovia singer is becoming a troll just to deny Jesus in the scriptures
According to the Christian Bible, the sacrificial system has come to an end, because Jesus is the final sacrifice. It says this in Hebrews chapter 10 verse 18 and Romans chapter 6
In Ezekiel 45 the Messiah (prince) will bring a sin offering for his own sins and the sins of the people in verses, 16-22. I would like to know from Christians why would the Messiah be bringing a sin offering on behalf of his own sins if the Messiah never sinned and is sinless?
Read Isaiah 44.1.2 😎🇬🇧
ISRAEL IS SUFFERED/DIED FOR ISRAELS SINS.how it is possible???? Is all the jews are suffering in this World??? Including elon musk??
It says .ashiach, but not Yeshua! It doesn't say Yeshua. Oh my! Now he is quoting the commentaries of the sages...very different from Rabbi Singer that quoted from the Torah !
Yea, if you do not have a good explanation from someone with the caliber of Doctor Brown any ravi will confuse your mind and will make you believe his heresy, they will say that Jesus is not the Messiah, thanks God we count on Dr. Brown who knows Hebrew and English and not only that, he counts with the inspiration of God.
As Jesus was (proven to be) not the messiah, Isaiah 53 and all other places where Christians want see him in in the Jewish scriptures, cannot possibly be about him. It's simple logic.
it is
The rabbis know who the servant is they know it's yeshua the Nazarene who was born in Bethlehem buy the rabbis just like in the days of Paul are deceiving the Jewish people.
at least the Bible says who the servant was better than blindly forcing jesus to be.😂😂 if he's not isreal... then he will never be Jesus... cause Jesus did not fulfilled the prophesy standard of the messiah. so if we don't believe what the Bible says...then we have nothing to believe. 😂😂😂
isnt jesus the jew who converted lot of gentiles into worshipping god of israel
Wow , I'm glad someone countered Rabbi Singer. His been misinterpreting scriptures of the Messianic Prophecies and misleading people.