Well put, Another attribute Hiseman possesses imo is his solos are melodic. They have a beginning, a middle and an end. It isn't all out blazing in hope of dazzling the listener with all his chops. All time favorite drummer of mine.
@peterlemer I happened to notice that all great men are very humble. Hiseman is among them. They're never totally satisfied with what they've done and always want to improve. Maybe this is the spirit that leads to important, innovative and beautiful things. Also they find in others a constant source of inspiration, particularly praising those aspects of which they think they could be a little lacking. A clear sign of mature intelligence. Mr. Lemer, you're a wonderful musician. Like Mr. Hiseman
I saw Colosseum several times back in the day. His solos were always exceptional. On one occasion at an all-nighter at The Lyceum in London he had been playing for 5 minutes just using his feet!! An amazing drummer!
jh often dissed his own drumming & praised that of others. I think because he only does what's easy for him - as he did lots of practise a long time ago! after his return from hospital, where he nearly died & had a serious kidney operation, during his big storming solo, I turned to barbara in the wings and expressed concern. She said there was not problem, he wasn't really exerting himself. I was amazed - if you ever watch him build to his climax he looks anything but relaxed! :-)
I saw him with Colosseum I in 1970, and was very very impressed. I loved Baker and Mitchell, but Hiseman was cleaner than either, with just as much feel. His solos were so complex, but looked so effortless. That he can still do this at 66 is amazing. One of the best drummers around--period.
Unfortunate none of you enthusiasts ever had the honor and blessing to have seen The Great Dave Black do his thing..KNEW him towards the end of his life and have VHS videos that put the Rock Icons in a more proper perspective..Some very creative stuff here...But none of this stuff is in or of the same level as what Dave put down...Listen to "Tan Your Hide"..Dave performed this Featured piece in the Ellington Band many times..I believe it's on a rather obscure "High Fi Drums" featuring Bellson and Rich and Dave and Sonny Igoe?Or Persip?No disrespect...just stating my opinion based on witnessing True greatness as opposed to rather repetitious blather..Give me some Elvin or Higgins or BRUNO CARR...RONALD BRUNER!!TAIN...Louis Hayes..Donald Duck Bailey...Edgar Bateman...Sam Woodyard..Sonny.Payne and dont forget Art or Dennis Chambers or Stuart C!!Also Philip Wilson and Billy Hart!!Ed Thigpen and so many more greats that go way beyond simple repetitious cycles of sonic stuff..Buddy Miles..Mike Clark..Lenny White...some many greats to check out!!Thank u for posting this video as its interesting!!
I was lucky enough to see Jon Hiseman with Graham Bond and for the drum solo they did a version of When Jonny comes marching home and was brilliant.Unfortunatey i dont think it was ever recorded.
Many years ago Jon Hiseman used to get some criticism for being too technical & having 'no feel'. I always thought it was total nonsense - especially after seeing him play live dozens of times with jazz outfits. I think it was a reaction to the fact that he had so much technique - he was about 30 years ahead of his time. Today many drummers have amazing dexterity, co-ordination & speed, it is expected. JH was doing all this back in the 1960s & I think it frightened the heck out of some people!
The "feel" argument is often used to diminish the performance of great players and elevate competent players who are in popular bands. I have seen that use against guitarists, keyboard players, bassists, when folks didn't want to acknowledge there might be someone of higher competence than more popular players. It's a bit of bs to diminish player aspirations, I think. I also think when you are looking at Hiseman you are looking at a unique talent from the 60's. There are few players I can think of from that period who were technically in the same league and/or possessed the same level of inventiveness--only folks like Ian Paice, Andy McCullough and Ian Wallace or Carl Palmer come to mind, and none matched Jon's inventiveness as an accompanist.
When I first heard him in 1969, I thought he was the best drummer in rock. My opinion has not changed one bit. I like (even love) other drummers, but this guy is the top of the heap.
I never heard someone play along mostly on a high hat and sound so good Hiseman on Jack Bruce's album Songs for a Tailor " Never tell your Mother she's out of tune"
I still think live 1971 is one of the finest albums of all time....and the sound and playing of John on his gretsch kit well just superb..Look at this vid and yes still there amongst the best , but never put on a par as the rest..Why ?
I remember, many years ago at Redcar Jazz Club, we got all the best acts of the time and the drum solo was time to go to the bar and get the drinks in. Not with Jon Hiseman, people stayed in their seats and listened.
totally agree...., yes is sad which a lot of rock fans and drum enthusiastics dont know this two drummers you say..., for me carl palmer and hiseman are two of the best, this man was amazing with the foots and the hands..., simon phillips sometimes tell the fantastic drummer hiseman was....., if you like the tull drummers, all fantastic.... check good doane perry, he is amazing and really musical, and for me mark craney was other of the superamazing ones, he played in tull and on the record of gino vannelli brother to brother which is one of the best drumrecords in history..., look craney here with tull.... ruclips.net/video/8I58oeTvgNU/видео.html, this one of barriomore is incredible, bohman sayed which he was the best in this moment... ruclips.net/video/z0KrCEXAXL4/видео.html, and this, buff what a hands..., the part on the floor toms is so brutal....ruclips.net/video/CNIyEbeJzQA/видео.html, love his playing with uli jon roth in the 90....
I have never heard any rock drummer surpass Hiseman. Barlow and Carl Palmer come close. I heard Hiseman in 1969. What came after Hiseman never met his standard, although I do enjoy the more eccentric rock drummers like Drumbo, Gavin Harrison, Guy Evans and Chris Cutler. But the drummers everyone reveres, like Bonham, etc. pale in comparison to this guy. I've heard some of the best jazz drummers too, like Jones, Blackwell, Williams, Cobham and Hiseman is up there with them too.
Brillant drummer Jon is, but how in the world could he ever kick the wonderful sounding Double BD Gretsch kit against the lousy sounds his later kits deliver..
Well put, Another attribute Hiseman possesses imo is his solos are melodic. They have a beginning, a middle and an end. It isn't all out blazing in hope of dazzling the listener with all his chops. All time favorite drummer of mine.
@peterlemer I happened to notice that all great men are very humble. Hiseman is among them. They're never totally satisfied with what they've done and always want to improve. Maybe this is the spirit that leads to important, innovative and beautiful things. Also they find in others a constant source of inspiration, particularly praising those aspects of which they think they could be a little lacking. A clear sign of mature intelligence. Mr. Lemer, you're a wonderful musician. Like Mr. Hiseman
I saw Colosseum several times back in the day. His solos were always exceptional. On one occasion at an all-nighter at The Lyceum in London he had been playing for 5 minutes just using his feet!! An amazing drummer!
What, both of them???
An often under mentioned drumming genius.
A fanstatic musician who I once had the pleasure of taking a drum lesson from with another great drummer, John Savage.........simply the best!!
jh often dissed his own drumming & praised that of others. I think because he only does what's easy for him - as he did lots of practise a long time ago! after his return from hospital, where he nearly died & had a serious kidney operation, during his big storming solo, I turned to barbara in the wings and expressed concern. She said there was not problem, he wasn't really exerting himself. I was amazed - if you ever watch him build to his climax he looks anything but relaxed! :-)
Miss him a lot!
I saw him with Colosseum I in 1970, and was very very impressed. I loved Baker and Mitchell, but Hiseman was cleaner than either, with just as much feel. His solos were so complex, but looked so effortless. That he can still do this at 66 is amazing. One of the best drummers around--period.
hooptyhee1 I agree. it was the same feeling in August (or July) 1970 in Plumpton.
Unfortunate none of you enthusiasts ever had the honor and blessing to have seen The Great Dave Black do his thing..KNEW him towards the end of his life and have VHS videos that put the Rock Icons in a more proper perspective..Some very creative stuff here...But none of this stuff is in or of the same level as what Dave put down...Listen to "Tan Your Hide"..Dave performed this Featured piece in the Ellington Band many times..I believe it's on a rather obscure "High Fi Drums" featuring Bellson and Rich and Dave and Sonny Igoe?Or Persip?No disrespect...just stating my opinion based on witnessing True greatness as opposed to rather repetitious blather..Give me some Elvin or Higgins or BRUNO CARR...RONALD BRUNER!!TAIN...Louis Hayes..Donald Duck Bailey...Edgar Bateman...Sam Woodyard..Sonny.Payne and dont forget Art or Dennis Chambers or Stuart C!!Also Philip Wilson and Billy Hart!!Ed Thigpen and so many more greats that go way beyond simple repetitious cycles of sonic stuff..Buddy Miles..Mike Clark..Lenny White...some many greats to check out!!Thank u for posting this video as its interesting!!
I was lucky enough to see Jon Hiseman with Graham Bond and for the drum solo they did a version of When Jonny comes marching home and was brilliant.Unfortunatey i dont think it was ever recorded.
Many years ago Jon Hiseman used to get some criticism for being too technical & having 'no feel'. I always thought it was total nonsense - especially after seeing him play live dozens of times with jazz outfits. I think it was a reaction to the fact that he had so much technique - he was about 30 years ahead of his time. Today many drummers have amazing dexterity, co-ordination & speed, it is expected. JH was doing all this back in the 1960s & I think it frightened the heck out of some people!
The "feel" argument is often used to diminish the performance of great players and elevate competent players who are in popular bands. I have seen that use against guitarists, keyboard players, bassists, when folks didn't want to acknowledge there might be someone of higher competence than more popular players. It's a bit of bs to diminish player aspirations, I think.
I also think when you are looking at Hiseman you are looking at a unique talent from the 60's. There are few players I can think of from that period who were technically in the same league and/or possessed the same level of inventiveness--only folks like Ian Paice, Andy McCullough and Ian Wallace or Carl Palmer come to mind, and none matched Jon's inventiveness as an accompanist.
I reckon he has a very unique style and tone. He's yet to be fully appreciated. One of Britains treasures...
When I first heard him in 1969, I thought he was the best drummer in rock. My opinion has not changed one bit. I like (even love) other drummers, but this guy is the top of the heap.
Gary Gomes yes I agree. I saw him in Plumpton jazz festival in 1970 and had the same impression.
So musically & interesting
Great solo magnific
0:49 - Major Keys
He was great with Tempest too...😎👍
I never heard someone play along mostly on a high hat and sound so good Hiseman on Jack Bruce's album Songs for a Tailor " Never tell your Mother she's out of tune"
I still think live 1971 is one of the finest albums of all time....and the sound and playing of John on his gretsch kit well just superb..Look at this vid and yes still there amongst the best , but never put on a par as the rest..Why ?
Wow. How have I never heard this? Love the footwork throughout! Obvious why Neil Peart was a fan..
It's odd. I have never seen him mentioned in a Peart interview. I must have been reading the wrong interviews!
Absolutely incredible
I remember, many years ago at Redcar Jazz Club, we got all the best acts of the time and the drum solo was time to go to the bar and get the drinks in. Not with Jon Hiseman, people stayed in their seats and listened.
I love his snare!!
Those who admire Mike Portnoy and even Neil Peart should check this guy out, think he (and Barriemore Barlow), beat them by far..
drumsanddrumming who cares?
i care x example....,sometimes the most famous arent the best and is fucktop witch they dont deserve the fame they win....
totally agree...., yes is sad which a lot of rock fans and drum enthusiastics dont know this two drummers you say..., for me carl palmer and hiseman are two of the best, this man was amazing with the foots and the hands..., simon phillips sometimes tell the fantastic drummer hiseman was....., if you like the tull drummers, all fantastic.... check good doane perry, he is amazing and really musical, and for me mark craney was other of the superamazing ones, he played in tull and on the record of gino vannelli brother to brother which is one of the best drumrecords in history..., look craney here with tull.... ruclips.net/video/8I58oeTvgNU/видео.html,
this one of barriomore is incredible, bohman sayed which he was the best in this moment... ruclips.net/video/z0KrCEXAXL4/видео.html,
and this, buff what a hands..., the part on the floor toms is so brutal....ruclips.net/video/CNIyEbeJzQA/видео.html, love his playing with uli jon roth in the 90....
I have never heard any rock drummer surpass Hiseman. Barlow and Carl Palmer come close. I heard Hiseman in 1969. What came after Hiseman never met his standard, although I do enjoy the more eccentric rock drummers like Drumbo, Gavin Harrison, Guy Evans and Chris Cutler. But the drummers everyone reveres, like Bonham, etc. pale in comparison to this guy.
I've heard some of the best jazz drummers too, like Jones, Blackwell, Williams, Cobham and Hiseman is up there with them too.
@SAHBfan yes, I think just the opposite- he has both a great feel and an amazing tecnique. One of my def favourites.
R.i.p. Jon ☹☹☹
Does anyone know what gloves he use? :)
Excellent
Superb............
good
i like his or your floor tom at the right of the snare!!:)
He's converting piano to drums
the master
thanks marc, at least he's still out there, sweating! :-)
Black belt drumming! He can't do dat ... yet he does!
What do you call a drummer who's above creme de la creme? Jon Hiseman.
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Brillant drummer Jon is, but how in the world could he ever kick the wonderful sounding Double BD Gretsch kit against the lousy sounds his later kits deliver..
Not possible to beat that.
I bet my bottom dollar Jon Heisman could tune a pianio with a tuning fork!!!..
The gloves make it sound bad .