Martina Navratilova vs Pam Shriver Extended Highlights | 1991 US Open Round 3
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- Watch the extended highlights between Martina Navratilova and Pam Shriver in Round 3 of the 1991 US Open.
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Wonderful volleys by Martina. Learned a lot.
Would be great to see their (in)famous 1982 match at the US Open!
How was that?.... Might be the rules and standards at that time would be totally different..... Is it right?....
@@HONORTONUMERIC123 the 1982 match? It was very controversial because Martina won the first set 6-1 then lost the match. She said afterwards that it was because she'd got toxoplasmosis from a friend's cat. Nobody believed her. They thought she was just trying to cover up for one of the huge chokes she used to be famous for in those days. She later got into a fight with a photographer which led to a protracted court case.
@@th8257 She did get toxoplasmosis. It was the media hounding her that pissed her off.
@@snifferdogxsnifferdogx5977 Pam Shriver was a little upset with her afterwards. She said: "Any time you win the first set in 17 minutes and are serving for the match at 5-4, 30-15, you should win the match no matter what disease you have . . . I'm not mad at Martina. If it's true, it may have affected her. I tend to believe it didn't because I know how I played."
I miss serve & volley tennis! Fascinating to see how tennis used to be played by the vast majority of players.
To be fair to Pam post either their 1978 SF or 1982 QF which she won.
Pam at this time looks like my grandmother, same hair 🤣
When my second daughter was born in 1984, I named her Pam Sara.😁
8:18 Wow haha!!!
C'est agréable de voir des joueuses qui savent volleyer
Pam retuned from being out with surgery in '90 in good form here and won the doubles with Zverera.
That's good tho.... Returning and winning in the doubles....
Best serve and volley point of the match by Pam at 3:55
Pam had the worst groundstrokes on the woman's tour by far! Her serve, volleys and court awareness is why she was a great doubles player. But those strokes are ugly with a capital U.
Pam could have really been a force had she even attempted to make one of her groundstrokes more effective. There was just no way she could really compete with Martina or Chris or Hana without a powerful, driving forehand or backhand. Her volleys were third to Martina and Hana, but not by much and she had a decent serve. In some ways she was like Edberg whose forehand was his Achilles, but his backhand was sublime.
1982 QF Hana Mandlikova vs Tracy Austin?
Wasn’t televised
Martina so athletic
one of the reasons navratilova was so successful was her diligent observation of other player's game.
so it is a bit unfair for shriver to have to play her former doubles partner of the most successful women's duo of all time.
I always admired Shriver's groundstrokes. Tried to copy her forehand . Not easy!
The easiest fh, flat. Why would you try to copy a flat fh, useless. I’m a pro coach btw.
@@frankrohan321 I thought it looked uncomplicated but effective. Flat? I thought it was slice.
@@FitzGerald9876 you're right. If he doesn't know that he's no pro coach lol.
Why would u want to copy pam’s groundstrokes lol 😂
@@fuckurbody I thought the forehand looked uncomplicated but an effective slice. I could hit very heavy topspin easy all day long.
Pam has a world class overhead. Everything else is journeywoman.
The first volley is world class, but yes, she was a journeywoman. That said, she was one of the all time greats in doubles and that's not too shabby.
Awesome volleys of Martina in that match! But ... a quite cold handshake from Shriver at the end ... has there been a reason for that?
Considering that they went on to win 20 grand slam titles as doubles partners, it seems they made up.
@@elmoblatch9787this match is 1991. The last of those 20 grand slam wins was over two and a half years before, at the 1989 Australian Open.
There had been some bad blood between them back in 1989 when Martina ended the doubles partnership, but they teamed up again a few months after this to win at the tour finals. Martina had said way back in 1986 that she didn't like playing Pam at all, whether she won or lost, because of their doubles relationship. I think Pam was also always very competitive on court and could be very fiery at times- she will have been disappointed with her performance, especially since she had beaten Martina at the US Open twice before.
@th8257 thank you for clarifying that. I do understand now. 😀
this is what navratilova would have been if tennis hadn't changed. old style tennis beetween a good player and a monster. but tennis had already changed
Except that Martina won her last major encounter with Graf at this USO and was level 2-2 with Graf from here on to her retirement. So her game matched up in the new era. Even ancient Nav was much better than Graf's contemporaries, Sabatini, Sanchez, MaryJoe etc. The only player who gave her real problems was Seles, 17 years younger. That's the same age difference as between Navratilova and Maria Bueno. 😂
@@tobiasisback4605 I appreciate Navratilova a lot. I think most of her fascination was due to the fact that she was coming from another era. I think she played the best tennis ever. From another time. Because the game had changed. Completely. A sport turns completely different when you change the instrument of the game. It had become another game. Literally. And she said "hey, here I am again". Very, very, very fascinating.
@@francescobattisti9926 Yes, agree. It is fascinating to watch the different styles and evolution of the game.
Shriver actually won Anything with that style??
In Grand Slam tournaments, Pam Shriver won 22 titles, 21 in doubles and one mixed doubles title. She also won a women's doubles gold medal at the 1988 Olympic Games in Seoul with Zina Garrison as her partner. Shriver and regular doubles partner Martina Navratilova are the only women's doubles pair to have completed the Grand Slam in a calendar year, winning all four major titles in 1984.
@@theleftstrokesthedeathstro9910 Ok to clarify I meant in singles. Her game seemed to be built around doubles. Love her style as an announcer these days.
Her height really allowed her to cover the net well and she had some good wins. She beat Martina twice at the US Open and was one of only two people to beat Steffi Graf in 1988 (the other being Sabatini)
Pam won 21 pro singles titles when Chris and Martina were dominating. Not too shabby.
Wow, not a single topspin forehand or backhand shot from Pam - all volleys and slices on both sides
So strange that they had to have dudes(or women) sit under the umpire's chair with boom microphones. Tripods couldn't handle the mics? Too many people on the court!
You can't expect to beat a great serve n volley player without having a topspin backhand and a questionable forehand. Pam's game was very one dimensional and limited.
And yet Pam had already beaten Martina twice at the US Open (1978 and 1982). The idea with a serve and volley player like Pam is not to have to hit passing shots - it's to take the net away from the opponent.
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Boring
Actually u know what!... It's not boring tho.... It's very interesting..... To play with these kind of styles at that time..... It's like understanding the opponent style of play and play with them throught out the game until somebody wins.... That's not wrong.... That's part of the game.....
Pam Shriver has to be the homeliest bint I've ever seen.
Why would you even say something like that? Does it feel good to deliberately be mean?
May be that period was like that.....
@@kevinfluet1183 well said....
Because women MUST be judged by beauty standards always? Pam is a hall-of-fame athlete with an outstanding career. She has an Olympic gold medal. And for the record, she was and is quite attractive, intelligent, funny, and inciteful. Be gone with your degrading opinion of women.