Most marvelous explanations. As a seeker trying to enter Orthodoxy. It is encourages me to continue to seek entrance. And to ask Lord to protect me from further delusion.
I was baptized a year ago at the age of 65yrs. Was a protestant for most my life and about 8 years or so ago and I stopped going to church - not hostile to the Lord or denying his Lordship and deity - just stopped when an associate pastor who did not have the qualifications to be a leader was chosen for the position. He was/is a good guy. but at the service he read a letter by a well-known false prosperity teacher Kenneth Copeland. That was enough for me. Providentially I was exposed to Orthodoxy via the internet and had no idea about it. I am convinced it is the true, historical body of Christ and am not looking back. I have friends and family who are protestants and love the Lord but my prayer is they come into Orthodoxy because it is the Apostolic, historical church that Christ and His Apostles built. The only the Orthodox have the worship that honors God - when the parishioner is participating with his heart, mind and body. Keep praying and study the early church. Check out the RUclips site "Inquietum Corda" topic "How the Earliest Christians Worshipped (in their own words)". It is so well done and thorough. Not sure the guy is Orthodox - but suspect he is.
I also believe that the Orthodox church is the only protection against "The Antichrist" who is to come with his lies and lying wonders. To be sure some Orthodox will fall away but the protestants I think will be sitting ducks. God have mercy and protect us all from his lies!
Kinda sad that you feel that you are deluded. They’re convincing you that you’re deluded? I’d step back and think about how you’re setting your self up for brainwashing.
Father, bless ! Thank you so much!❤ I think it's very important to know for sure from you what is going on...in order to stay strong and keep our true orthodox faith and mainly run away from those ones inside the church who are promoting ecumenism and sustain that false love of other religions... which comes against the Truth, the Way and Life, our Lord Jesus Christ!
Thank you fr peter for you always being who you are honest start my class Saturday and going to church Wednesday Saturday and Sunday because of my love for Him and your teaching the peace that hits me is something that has never happened Thank you from the bottom of my heart God bless
@@simonslater9024The Orthodox Catholic Church is from AD 33. The Roman church was cut off in AD 1054 (that began in AD 1014) and created a new communion of churches to replace the one Church.
The pressure will get even more tense from the west and from the Vatican for a lot of reasons and it's very important to stant on the truth no matter what. The church of Rome departed from the early church fathers faith and they are welcome to come back
Early church fathers taught the filioque. There's always an Orthodox who will point to St Gregory Nyssa referencing some selective work that doesn't provide his full writings and they forget that the only reason we have those writings is because Rome preserved them. Enter Jay Dyer to tell us "uh this dude is stupid he doesn't even understand the essence/energies distinction or economia" only to follow up with "divine simplicity is also stupid because it makes no sense to me"
@@agisilaoszenempisis215 you might be correct. However I don't think I'm confused when I say that the Orthodox understanding of the Trinity does nothing to distinguish the Spirit from the Son. The difference between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are distinctions of relationship. The Son is the only begotten of the Father. If the Spirit does not proceed from the Father and the Son then is it a 2nd begotten of the Father? What is the differentiating factor? Further, we take many typologies and patterns that are laid out in scripture and take revelation as God showing us who he is. Both Catholics and Orthodox affirm Mary as the Queen of Heaven because God chose to reveal it. Why then would God choose to reveal that the Son goes to the Father and sends the Spirt, that the Spirit receives everything from the Son? That is what scripture reveals. With the invention of essence/energies/economy, not only does the doctrine of Divine Simplicity become perverted, but it also asserts that the Trinity exists in one way in time but in another way eternally. It's possible that I'm theologically confused, as you say. But it seems to me that the Orthodox understanding of the Trinity muddles the relationships between the three
@@agisilaoszenempisis215 you might be correct. However I don't think I'm confused when I say that the Orthodox understanding of the Trinity does nothing to distinguish the Spirit from the Son. The difference between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are distinctions of relationship. The Son is the only begotten of the Father. If the Spirit does not proceed from the Father and the Son then is it a 2nd begotten of the Father? What is the differentiating factor? Further, we take many typologies and patterns that are laid out in scripture and take revelation as God showing us who he is. Both Catholics and Orthodox affirm Mary as the Queen of Heaven because God chose to reveal it. Why then would God choose to reveal that the Son goes to the Father and sends the Spirt, that the Spirit receives everything from the Son? That is what scripture reveals. With the invention of essence/energies/economy, not only does the doctrine of Divine Simplicity become perverted, but it also asserts that the Trinity exists in one way in time but in another way eternally. It's possible that I'm theologically confused, as you say. But it seems to me that the Orthodox understanding of the Trinity muddles the relationships between the three
“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.” - Proverbs 9:10 “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” - John 14:6
Bless you Father Peter the holy truth runs through you ,we are so blessed to have so many Orthodox church Father's who are not afraid to speak the true reality of our divided world and help us all stay on the narrow path and prepare us for what is to come...Godbless you and world family...
The new calendar was the start of ecumenism. The Orthodox church must drop the "Revised Julian calendar" and reunite with the Julian calendar (old calendar) in order to heal from heresy.
When mortal human beings attempt to explain ANYTHING they open the door to material desire and are blinded by the contrast between the Holy Light and the darkness of material desire. However, this is not the case for the One who is coming and Who is already here.
I think these orthodox patriarchs must convene a council to solve matter of issues that has been happening. Such as autocephalous church of ukraine, the jurisdiction dispute between antioch and jerusalem etc. It is sad to see these holy churches break off communion with each other
The True Church is based on Apostolic Secession from the moment Our Lord Jesus Christ breathed on the Apostles and they received the power to forgive sins and the mission to bring all men to repentance and a life in Christ. Nothing in the Bible supports all the modern thinkers that are totally dellusional.
replying to: @jupiterinaries6150 Of course they would SAY that... which says nothing... as many claim to speak for the truth and are in delusion. Do your homework and learn the truth: Watch videos on this channel on: THE EIGHTH OECUMENICAL COUNCIL. Watch and learn the truth.
@@OrthodoxEthos Ive listened to both sides and both sides sound like bickering siblings. I think the Catholics make the better case since they have Byzantine Catholic rites which makes a good case for the catholicity. They have the Divine Liturgy also whereas the EO have no corresponding Latin rite and I’m not referring to the Western Orthodox who started in France.
I would love to join an Orthodox Church but it is extremely difficult when I only speak English. The best the Orthodox Church can offer me in Sydney is a fortnight English service.
So true. Orthodoxy was built on atomized ethnic and language groups. That shuts out others who do not speak those languages. Orthodoxy could bring in many in the English speaking world if a) there were one Orthodox church b) English were used c) or if language and liturgy instruction came with joining.
Better to be a gatekeeper in the house of God than among sinners. Better to understand 5% than to not be a part of the divine and heavenly liturgy. Better to suffer and love in communion with God than to be far from communion with God, alone, without the grace of the Divine mysteries.
M husband and I were cetechized into the ROC. The language for liturgy is Slavonic and German. I understand German and through the years of following along with the Liturgy in English have a pretty good idea of what is happening. Just go, speak to the Priest. May God Bless you on you journey. 🙏☦️
orthodoxy is on its own. catholic church has protection of the Holy Spirit through the pope. that's why orthodox allow divorce, contraception - this goes against what Jesus taught.
There is a reason why time after the Incarnation is called A D. ( Anno Domini). The Incarnation is called " the maximum of differentiation "by the German political scientist the great German political scientist -Eric Voeglin.
Two days ago, a Serbian patriarch threw the following anathema: "To those who wrongly teach about the Holy Spirit, that he proceeds from the Father, anathema!" And the next one: "To those who wrongly teach about the Church of God as the body of Christ, anathema!" This is a terrible scandal and we are still waiting for him to apologize, but nothing for now. A few priests said that his words were "misunderstood" by "malicious zealots", but there is no place for ambiguity here, the words are clear. Can you imagine this?! This may sound like a joke, but sadly, it's true!
I was literally horrified, I couldn't believe my ears, so I listened to it over and over and over again. Yes, he said that, which means that he threw anathema on all the orthodox. We are doomed anyways.
The thing they did by lighting the candles, really gave me a pain I never imagined I would feel. Truly, may Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ have mercy on us because that level of delusion to exist in Orthodoxy really pains me...
Doesn’t your comment presuppose the idea that those of other faiths are “disciples” of Jesus? The disciples are one in Christ, the body of Christ, His Church. Your comment suggests that both (I don’t mean to pick on any particular faith but in general) a Muslim, a Mormon, and a Buddhist are somehow “disciples”.
@@josiahalexander5697 His disciples were Jews which were already fragmented and in fighting is why Rome was there to keep them from killing each other-His Church now is literally killing itself in Ukraine EAST and LATINS divided by V2 being a change too far…both of these claim to be the ONLY TRUE…there was also complaints of His disciples of someone casting out demons by His Name who wasn’t following them their group-He said is ok-
Fr. Peter, I am under the Ecumenical Patriarchate in the Greek Archdiocese, since Patriarch Bartholomew has communed with the Ukrainian schismatics, does that make him and the whole Patriarchate as well? I can’t seem to get an answer on this.
Those who commune, commune... and are in error and walking further toward the exit door of Orthodoxy. Many in Greece and elsewhere are FIGHTING against their decision on the Ukrainian schismatics and their communion with them. Many on Athos do NOT commune with them or the schismatics. So: let's not be overly legalistic, but rather identify with the Fathers who are remaining strong and resisting this great error and innovation. Let's join them in resisting, in prayer and action -- as far as that is in our power in our place. But, let us not judge ship and allow the ship of those Local Churches which have leaders who have fallen into this error to be ruled over by those not of right spiritual mind.
@@OrthodoxEthos Thank you for the response. I am under Met. Alexios, who as far as I can tell is very good. My parish priest is also very good and is solidly Orthodox. If at any point either of them decide to commune with the schismatics, I assume that is the point which I should leave.
I see non-Christian religions as missing the true path to repentance, humility, and being able to truly connect back to God. I wish everyone could see Christ and His sacrifice and resurrection as the only narrow strong bridge across the chasm of life that rejoins one to our Holy Father. Our repentance is produced by His love. My question is, can the Orthodox Christians be the only Christians to know Christ? If you are a Christian who understands to strive toward the fruits of the Spirit and is not, for lack of better words, liberal or progressive in theology, are you not on the right path with Our Lord?
The other main problem why people fall into this delusion is lack of spiritual discernment coming from the lack of asceticism, i.e. fasting, repentance, vigilance and the Jesus prayer. If your notion of asceticism is equalled to yoga or whatnot then....bummer
@@OrthodoxEthos I hope just as in the days of the early church we have many great saints who rise up against this crisis that has befallen Orthodoxy. The gates of hell shall not prevail but I hope we get some major pushback sooner rather than later as I have seen far too many Clergy and Laity be ecumenist.
Perennialism doesn't hold that you should. Whether or not the 'transcendent unity of religions' is true, setting up a straw man, calling it Perennialism & burning it isn't in the service of Truth. The fact is that Perennialism ipso facto prohibits syncretism, precisely because the purported unity is *transcendent*. The Perennialists do not claim, as Fr Peter suggests, that all religions are the same in their esoteric forms. It holds that they are more similar in their esoteric forms than in their exoteric forms (which is an observable fact), but that all are always necessarily *distinct*, and the various paths only ever meet in God. Any Perennialist worth his weight in salt recognizes that mixing the religions destroys them. And many Perennialists worry, as Fr Peter does, that Perennialism will be perverted & used as a support for the religion of antichrist
0:54 "it has crept into almost all religions"... Buddhists & Hindus see the Universe in a totally different dimension (they could care less whether "Orthodox" join them or not)... Muslims & Jews have not changed their theological views in 16-25 centuries (they would prefer "Orthodoxy" disapparing) 🤔
What does the person of Jesus have to do with the Bible? Do you like the personality of Einstein, Newton or Raphael? Is this their creativity or just Heavenly Jazz?
They added a third Testament. So many of their beliefs are beyond heretical. They deny the triune God of all. I could go on and on. My husband was once LDS.
Your works testify to your faith, when done for God’s glory. “Faith without works is dead”- James. Your works are not a crass way of merit-based salvation, but emanate from you as you are being in Christ. Luther (and I was Lutheran once) wanted to remove St James from the canon because of what I just quoted, because it did not fit his new doctrine. Peace.
The Lord established the Orthodox Church for man’s salvation and the New Testament was written to be read by those in the Church. The Church is Christ’s body and one must become part of Christ’s body to attain salvation. To be outside of Christ’s body while believing in Him is to still remain separate from Him.
@OrthodoxEthos What about the woman at the well, and Jesus said to her that it won't matter where we worship? Isn't the church anyone that receives the Holy Spirit?
Matthew 23: 9 - 11 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
Lol Then you literally shouldn't call your biological dad, Father... but you do. Don't equate anyone with GOD the Father....do not give anyone the same label As God Your Father. Paul himself in Corinthians uses parent/children metaphors.
this man found Matthew 23:9! For 2000 years no scholar, Church Father, priest, or layperson had ever seen or properly understood this crucial verse. Suddenly @WarbandGames comes along in the depths of the youtube comments and disproves all the ancient Apostolic Churches with a single verse. Took 2000+ years but he did it. What a time to be alive.
I don’t think you understand what the unity in this case means. Jesus is asking only to celebrate the Easter together, since Catholics and Orthodox are celebrating on a different date.
@@ElonMuskrat-my8jy It's a good question I've heard he isn't under a bishop and if he isn't that should raise some questions mainly.should we listen to this person
@@Dominique-wc9hm The issue has been settled. If you actually cared you could do a quick online search and find out for yourself. But you don't care. You just want to cast doubt on his teachings which are those of the Holy Fathers.
Did you watch the latest conference proceedings? Did you see Metropolitan Seraphim praise Fr. Peter? Did you see Metropolitan Neophytos interview / discussion with Fr. Peter last week? Did you see that Bishop Longin blessed the conference? That Fr. Peter served all of the Divine Services? Do you think that these bishops would bless Fr. Peter and his work if he was not a legitimate and canonical priest?
Perfectly said!!!! Amen. For those who lit that tree are not following the one true God. We are in trouble and in need of repentance, but like Saint John the Russian said, (there must be a war).
Planet she says! Show me the curvature (you can't it doesn't exist)! We live on a plane not a planet or a pear! Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Circle (מעגל) not a ball (כַּדוּר)!
I looked up the definition of Perennialism. What I found is that it's a accumulation of all knowledge of civilization and how we we can learn from those wise individuals who came before us. In other words it sounds like a classical education. I'm not sure what this has to do with Ecumenism. For example it would include Plato, Aristotle, other Greek philosophers, probable some far eastern philosophies as well. It would also include those who came later such as Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine. Is there another definition of Perennialism that I'm not aware?
@Gigi-ho2qk Perhaps Mountain Press can produce a glossary for confusing terms. It might make understanding what the church fathers are talking about easier as well.
I don't understand how any Orthodox can say the church remained unchanged when the first split occured in the 5th century. Then again in the 11th century and once more in the 17th century, between Catholics and Protestants. Orthodox experienced two splits and so did the Catholics and the Protestants fractalized. If you are a respecter of persons, you do not have the love of God in you. That much I know is clear. Scripture can not be broken.
The Orthodox Church is neither diminished nor divided when people depart from the Church in schism and heresy, but we hope that all who have departed will return for the sake of their salvation.
The split between Rome and the Western Reformers wasn't in the Church. Once Rome departed in the 11th century it was no longer in the Church. The same with the churches that departed in the 5th century.
Η Ορθόδοξη αλληθεια έμεινε αμετάβλητη λόγο της παρουσίας του Αγίου Πνεύματος.Η Εκκλησία δυστηχως έπεσε σε σχήζματα αιρέσεις λόγο της οιησεως ορισμένων ηγετών που πλανηθηκαν.Η αλληθεια όμως έχει διαχρονικη ισχη γιατί είναι ο Θεάνθρωπος Χριστός.
Because the Church is a tangible institution and you think of it like an abstract community. If the Arians separate themselves by redefining their beliefs, the Church doesn't change. It's not one Church, redefined with watered down beliefs blended somewhere in between the Christians and Arians. It's one Church made up of Christians and then the Arians are out of the Church doing whatever it is Arians do
The True Church is the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, and the pope is the Vicar of Christ. The Church is active in the world, not secluded in ivory towers confined to merely babbling and arguing about theology. If you want to learn what and why the Church teaches what it does simply study the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Then why stay in communion with Bishops that continue in this heresy? Thinking that a time will come when these so-called Bishops will come together in council and condemn this vile heresy, a heresy they hold to, is wishful thinking at best.
You don’t know church history very well if you think that by separating and creating parallel jurisdictions that’s how the fathers fault heresy. Before a council. Many examples: Saint Meletio of Antioch, Saint Jerusalem, Saint Ambrose of Milan. … for example show us that the contemporary zealot answer of flee and break *even with other Orthodox* is no solution at all. Read about the history of Saint Maximus, and *after his repose.* How many years until the council? 20. 20 years, they said the same thing you’re saying: no hope. And yet the Lord saved and always saves the Church.
1/ 12 Nowhere in Old Testament or New Testament does it say IN HEERS OWN WORDS you know they used to say not long ago you have to respect the person who has another God Who are they ?Peter Heers since they clearly do not speak Divine Life Giving Word of God so why do you quote them or even pay attention to they ? Which Biblical quote can you justify for They used to say ?
If one is obedient to our Lord, then we must allow ourselves to be open to the Holy Spirit. For it is only through the Holy Spirit that unity can be restored. The closing off due to fear of a so called disintegration of the faith is ignorant and show no trust in the Holy Spirit. You express the major problem within Orthodoxy, conflict, political infighting, disfunction. While many Orthodox work towards unity, some as your self righteous self, project this idea of the purity of Orthodoxy, that is has never drifted away, and somehow pure Christianity would be lost, what garbage! How short your memory is, the vast majority of the heresies in the early church came out of the east. Arianism being the most influential engulfing the east to include the Emperor. It took 700 years to rid the church of the belief, and it was Rome and Alexandria which saved the true faith. Icons, while the west has no problem are a 5th century innovation or developments, nothing shows this practice comes down to us from the apostles, if it did the west would have the same practice. Palamism is also a later development not found in the sacred Tradition and is a heresy. Orthodox disfunction and hardships over the centuries is based on three factors, one they separated from Rome, and second, they created an imperial church sucking up to the political powers instead of demanding a free and independent Church which Rome always demanded, and thirdly the ethnic structure of the east which has become so intrenched and lacks any semblance of being Catholic.
You, sir, are what the Orthodox have always called a heretic. You sit in judgment of the Saints. You arrogate to yourself the idea that you are above and can judge the Church and her Saints. You do not follow the Saints as the Orthodox have always done. And you were led into delusion. And pride is the main culprit. Humble yourself before the Saints and their teachings and God will illuminate your darkness. It was the great Saints of the Church who fought and defeated the various heresies. Your analysis above is extremely superficial and arrogant.
@OrthodoxEthos I totally understand humility and obedience to our Lord. I sit in judgment, now that is the pot calling the kettle black. I am not arrogant, but so many Orthodox who sit all high and mighty and proclaim we are the true church. Please spare me. It is Orthodox like yourself who are poison to the faith. Humble yourself to Jesus' prayer, "may they all be one". I am so thankful for Patriarch Bartholomew, a true man of God who seeks a path of reconciliation instead of division and bigotry. While other such as Metropolitan Kalistos Ware of happy memory also work diligently and listened instead of accusing found common understanding on those issues which supposedly divide us. Shame on you!!!
I'm not going into the falsity of the rest of the comment of yours as I don't have time, but to be fair, so-called "Palamism" isn't a heresy in your religion as your Byzantine Uniates believe in it and teach it. That is true dysfunction, the Papal institution allowing contradicting belief systems as long as fealty is given to the Papacy. Also, the the faux humility and pride you are displaying here are very off putting. It doesn't put one in the want for unity. At any rate, unity cannot be and this is partly why. It is a worldly want, one that says truth doesn't matter but feelings do.
@LadyMaria actually I know it isn't and he has been well received by the Catholic church. The Church has no issue with palamism. My goal was for him to feel the same anger we do when lies and falsehoods are presented as truth. If Orthodoxy has remained true it is because of Rome. There were many schism in the early church caused by heresies from the east, Arianism, Nestorianism, sabellianism, Donatism etc, etc... These caused hundreds of years of separation, only Rome remained true as the early church Father's attest to. Everything else I mentioned is absolutely accurate.
@danvinsontrailor2339 I am well aware of Palamism and I know it is not a heresy and Rome has no issues. I purposely made that statement to show how wrong and bigoted it is when Orthodox make false claims and accusation against the west. I am most thankful for those like Patriarch Bartholomew, and Metropolitan Kalistos Ware and all those who seek reconciliation. Our Lord prayed May they all be one, and messages like this do great harm cause confusion. Fr Heer even denigrates the Patriarch of Constantinople. Disobedience and a severe lack of respect for the office.
been a Greek Orthodox Christian very disappointed of the teachings of my church and special of the ever virgin panagia the mother of God = Athena the ever virgin goddess from the pagan 12 gods that we are praying to save us having over 325 different names more that our G_D ,and of the day of orthodoxy the restoration of the icons after all the killings that took place for icons the GOSPEL is not teach or proclaim from our priests and the Bishops been masons and also baptizing homosexuals and marry them may THE LORD JESUS CHRIST have mercy on us.🥲
Being infiltrated on pain of death is different from “welcoming KJB.” Some members betraying the Church is not “the Russian Orthodox Church”. Many clergy & faithful fled for their lives in the wake of the revolution that brought in the Soviet power (now defunct for 30 years). Do you have a problem with CIA members being members of Protestant Churches? Over a decade ago Christianity Today did an article on CIA infiltration of Protestant mission agencies like New Tribes and Wycliffe to spy in South American countries (where US has staged coups). Is this right? No.
@@OrthodoxEthos St. Nektarios is a great saint and I respect him very much. I even have his icon. But, as you probably know, Typikon takes precedence over any individual opinions.
Fr. Peter, with all due respect, what on earth are you blathering about? If the Eastern Orthodox truly is the true church then it would do its utmost to fix its own immense jurisdictional and ethophyletist chaos and start catering to all people in all places. Is this what the world sees in actual reality? Constaninople and the Russian patriarchate have broken communion and two Orthodox churches on the same street can't even celebrate the same service or fast on the same day or have the same bishop. And then you talk about unity? Fix your own problems first and maybe then you will be a beacon of light to the world fot the truth. The Church Fathers were united, present day Orthodoxy certainly isn't. If the Church Fathers were here today they'd get very upset, because the leaders of the Orthodox church had failed miserably to provide even unity within the own group. The problem is not with others - let them go the way the wish - but with us. We are hidden, obscure, often in reality catering only to ethnic groups. How is the church going to spread the message of truth to the world unless break down the national barriers which so hinders even canonical celebration? Stop driving with you eyes fixed to the rear view mirror and look out the windshield. There are people ahead of us on the road, travellers as us.
The Orthodox Church continues to produce Holy Fathers. You seem unaware of Church history. Read about St. Basil, St. John Chrysostom, St. Gregory the Theologian, etc. The Church has always been one, but disputes, breaking of communion between local churches, etc. are neither new nor foreign to the Apostolic and Patristic Faith. The Papacy is a plastic and fake unity, with everything being permissible as long as one submits to the heretical Pope. This is why the Pope is a forerunner of the Antichrist, because truth is abandoned for the sake of a “unity” based on demonic falsehood.
Why are you mentioning the Papacy? I didn't say anything about it did I? I am talking about us, about our problem s, practical problems, which hinders the spread of the Orthodox faith as commanded by Christ. You get awfully defensive immediately. The fathers you mention have hardly been "produced" in this day and age. We are not living in the 400s now are we.The breach of communion today also hardly deals with 'local' churches, Russian being home for over 100 million devotees and Constantinople being the New Rome. The question isn't so much about what is new, the question is if we have real control over anything. Kirill blesses the war and supports the slaughter of Orthodox and yet nobody seems to think is important. Surely that's not something that will show Average Joe something ethereal about our great concern for humanity.
Why are you mentioning the Papacy at all? I didn't even mention or allude to the Papacy. Is that the limit of your vision? Come on guys, that's a strawman fallacy right there. Surely we grownups can at least stay on the subject. You are arguing like my dear wife. 😂
I have immense respect for your church and especially for Jesus Christ, but the idea that Christianity holds a monopoly on the "Truth" seems silly to me. There's a lot we can learn from others, and I see a tendency in all religious people (not just Christians) who deride anything outside their faith as "of the devil", evil, wrong, heretical. I don't believe most Christians can refute other religions because they usually have a very poor understanding of them. Likewise I don't think people from other religions understand Christianity very well. People understand their own religion very well, but the world is a very big place.
The Bible says X, the Bible says Y. I'm sure it does. Many other sacred texts make many bold claims. Why am I to take the Bible more seriously than any other? Because it's most familiar to me in the west? It's not heresy for heresies sake. It's that I have yet to get a satisfactory answer aside from "our way or the highway". The Muslims say the same thing. I don't think Christianity is false, on the contrary I think it speaks a lot of truth. Christians are not the only ones who speak truth however. Generally speaking I listen to what people have to say about their own faith, and listen little when they criticize others' faith.
The issue with ecumenism is that other faiths are not changing their beliefs at all or accepting Christ, at least not the True Christ and His Words, but Christians are completely negating Christ to form a fraternity of men (this is freemasonry in disguise, and this is putting other men first before God). Ecumenism is now an anti-Christian effort that has infiltrated the Church to stop evangelization, and to promote some sort of "Pax Romana" based on polytheism where all gods are valid and accepted. This is heresy, and this is why God often left the Israelites on their own, because they often would betray God and accept other gods from other cultures. The Bible doesn't say we need to convert everyone or force them to believe what we do. It only says to share the gospel and if it isn't welcomed to simply dust our feet off and leave. I have compassion and it is not my place to judge others for not believing what I believe. However, our focus shouldn't be fraternity in the world, but only in Christ, regardless of whether it is offensive to others or not. Also, our focus shouldn't be negating Christianity while simultaneously accepting non-Christian beliefs to not offend others, but to evangelize even if it offends others, and if they don't accept it, them dust our feet off. They are free to share their beliefs too, and do it, and freedom of speech is good, but we also are free to choose what to believe in, and to reject what we don't believe.
I'm Catholic, and I oppose the ecumenical movements within the Church and disagree with our current Pope. I have great respect for the Orthodox Church and most of their teachings and theology are the same as Catholic (I know all of the theological differences too). I agree with their concern and understand that just as true Catholics are concerned with this, a true Orthodox should too. I live in a protestant country and there are true few Christians so one of my true friends is reformed protestant. At first, we both thought we would eventually have some issue, but so far we have bonded over our love for Christ and have a beautiful friendship. Our theological views are even more different than those between Catholics and Orthodox, yet surpringly, we often end up coming up with the same conclusions and we still practice Christianity in similar ways because when you are truly Christian at heart, the focus will be Christ, not a humanitarian fraternity. We both practice chastity, pray together, love Jesus, believe in the importance of repentance (she even confesses her sins to counselors in her church because she believes it helps her - sadly, she might be missing on some graces received in a sacramental confession, but God sees her heart and might still have mercy on her), try to be honest, when we have issues and share it with each other we pray to God and find comfort in His Word, etc. We are always focused on Jesus, on following the 10 Commandments, and on pleasing God and growing in virtue. Yet there are plenty of Catholics who should in theory be living similar to me and they are not. I've also met a couple of Orthodox people and they weren't too devout despite the Orthodox faith being amazing and holding a great deposit of truth. So which church you belong to in a way is irrelevant if you don't put Christ first. But, that doesn't mean we should adopt heresy and create more confusion. So yes, I do think finding the greatest deposit of faith is important, but most importantly is to have a relationship with Christ, and to live as a true Christian. Also, what you or others believe contains the greatest deposit of truth will differ so, yes, fighting about this book said this and this other said that is in a way irrelevant. What matters is that you are true to your convictions and what you believe, which is not what ecumenism teaches. If someone truly loves God they will seek Him and find Him, and that is my belief. To me, it was learning about history, medically recorded miracles, an apparition of Jesus to my mom and my aunt together when they were children, learning about the lives of the saints, and seeing the perfect wisdom in Christ's teachings (I personally don't find that wisdom in any other teachings from any other religion and I truly went around and was agnostic for a while) that made me finally adopt Christianity, freely, by choice, out of love and true conviction. In particular, I found the Catholic faith to be the truest form of Christianity with Orthodoxy coming second (and perhaps is the other way around, but in good faith I follow God to the best of my understanding. In some cases I even agree more with Orthodoxy than Catholicism, but, in general, I'm Catholic). Also, applying to my daily life what Christ teaches has been life changing and brought me a sense of peace and freedom and well-being that I have never experienced before.
@@saturnFIV3 Christianity makes historical claims that can be verified. The Muslim book affirms the books of the bible. It affirms the authority of the Scripture. In one Chapter of the Quran, some Jews are having a dispute and ask Muhammed to help them resolve it. Muhammed places the Torah in the judgement seat and appeals to its' authority. Muhammad thought he was a profit in the succession of Jews and Christians and the early chapters of the Quran are very amenable to both. As he presents himself as a prophet to the Jews and later the Christians, both reject him as being a false prophet and his attitudes towards both become more hostile and the spread of Islam is done by war and by force. By his own account Muhammad's revelations were sometimes confused with falsehoods from Satan and he had to consult with his wife's cousin who could read to see if his revelations were from Allah or from the devil. Unfortunately, her cousin was a Nestorian heretic and so it goes that a Christian heresy spawned an entire false religion that spread through warfare and butchery. The Jews during the time of the 2nd temple when Jesus was alive had many prophetic verses in the Old Testament which would have pointed to Jesus Christ. There are writings of 1st century Rabbis that confirm they had to reinterpret prophecies to subvert the claims of the early Christians. You ever wonder why Jewish heritage is said to be passed from the mother's bloodline? This wasn't always the case - it changed in the 1st century. Why? The Gospel of St. Matthew, which gives us Joseph's lineage, was written for a Jewish audience and establishes Jesus as a descendant of David through his legal father, Joseph. According to Jewish law at the time this would point to Jesus being of the line of David as a legal son would inherit his adopted father's birthright. Not having access to the Gospel of St. Luke, which gives us Mary's lineage, the Rabbis changed the law so that the Jewish bloodline passes from the Mother. The irony of this is that in doing so they actually make King David, a non-Jew, by his ancestor Ruth who has her own book in the OT. Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Christianity possesses the fullness of the truth for those who knock, seek, and ask.
There are great truths in most religions, but ultimately there is only one truth. Christ said “I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me” a clear statement for Christians. Orthodoxy, and I am of this faith, does not go about saying who is hell bound, etc., or for that matter who is so good they must be in heaven, but clearly believes Christ is the way to salvation. All religions have a core doctrine of some kind, and Christ is ours, the rock on whom we stand- however imperfectly. Ultimately, God judges all of us, and will at the Last Judgement. To live as Christ is our earthly goal, though we fail at it, often, and salvation is a journey, but on that journey we have Orthodoxy, which means “right glory”. Peace.
God help us to hold fast to the Holy Orthodox tradition!!
Lord protect us and deliver us from the wiles of the devil 🙏
Most marvelous explanations. As a seeker trying to enter Orthodoxy. It is encourages me to continue to seek entrance. And to ask Lord to protect me from further delusion.
I was baptized a year ago at the age of 65yrs. Was a protestant for most my life and about 8 years or so ago and I stopped going to church - not hostile to the Lord or denying his Lordship and deity - just stopped when an associate pastor who did not have the qualifications to be a leader was chosen for the position. He was/is a good guy. but at the service he read a letter by a well-known false prosperity teacher Kenneth Copeland. That was enough for me.
Providentially I was exposed to Orthodoxy via the internet and had no idea about it. I am convinced it is the true, historical body of Christ and am not looking back. I have friends and family who are protestants and love the Lord but my prayer is they come into Orthodoxy because it is the Apostolic, historical church that Christ and His Apostles built. The only the Orthodox have the worship that honors God - when the parishioner is participating with his heart, mind and body. Keep praying and study the early church.
Check out the RUclips site "Inquietum Corda" topic "How the Earliest Christians Worshipped (in their own words)". It is so well done and thorough. Not sure the guy is Orthodox - but suspect he is.
I also believe that the Orthodox church is the only protection against "The Antichrist" who is to come with his lies and lying wonders. To be sure some Orthodox will fall away but the protestants I think will be sitting ducks. God have mercy and protect us all from his lies!
The podcast on perennialism... is tonight:
ruclips.net/user/liveOW4mzl8vFOY?feature=share
I read "...... Luther delusion"
there is I still.
Thank you OC for speaking truth, many of us protestant see the light you offer.
Kinda sad that you feel that you are deluded. They’re convincing you that you’re deluded? I’d step back and think about how you’re setting your self up for brainwashing.
St. Justin Popovic rules! Well said father, greetings from Serbia.
Thank you Fr. Peter for your courage in speaking TRUTH.
Thank you for mentioning Guenon and Schuon and then describing the tree lighting as perennialism on a "dumb-downed" level.
GLORY TO JESUS CHRISTUS AMEN THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND EVERTS GRITINGS FROM ARMENIA GOD BLESS YOU AMEN ♥️💯 PROCENT
Amen, Amen, Amen! Thank you for speaking the Truth, with no shame ☦☦☦
Father, bless ! Thank you so much!❤
I think it's very important to know for sure from you what is going on...in order to stay strong and keep our true orthodox faith and mainly run away from those ones inside the church who are promoting ecumenism and sustain that false love of other religions... which comes against the Truth, the Way and Life, our Lord Jesus Christ!
Thank you fr peter for you always being who you are honest start my class Saturday and going to church Wednesday Saturday and Sunday because of my love for Him and your teaching the peace that hits me is something that has never happened Thank you from the bottom of my heart God bless
GLORY BE TO GOD.
@@simonslater9024The Orthodox Catholic Church is from AD 33. The Roman church was cut off in AD 1054 (that began in AD 1014) and created a new communion of churches to replace the one Church.
Χριστός ανέστη!!!! 🇬🇷🇬🇷
Great video!
The pressure will get even more tense from the west and from the Vatican for a lot of reasons and it's very important to stant on the truth no matter what. The church of Rome departed from the early church fathers faith and they are welcome to come back
Early church fathers taught the filioque. There's always an Orthodox who will point to St Gregory Nyssa referencing some selective work that doesn't provide his full writings and they forget that the only reason we have those writings is because Rome preserved them.
Enter Jay Dyer to tell us "uh this dude is stupid he doesn't even understand the essence/energies distinction or economia" only to follow up with "divine simplicity is also stupid because it makes no sense to me"
@@dailyDorcNo, they didn't teach the Filioque.
@@dailyDorcΈχεις κομφιουζιο θεολογικό.Αυτα που λες είναι ανυπόστατα.
@@agisilaoszenempisis215 you might be correct. However I don't think I'm confused when I say that the Orthodox understanding of the Trinity does nothing to distinguish the Spirit from the Son. The difference between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are distinctions of relationship. The Son is the only begotten of the Father. If the Spirit does not proceed from the Father and the Son then is it a 2nd begotten of the Father? What is the differentiating factor? Further, we take many typologies and patterns that are laid out in scripture and take revelation as God showing us who he is. Both Catholics and Orthodox affirm Mary as the Queen of Heaven because God chose to reveal it. Why then would God choose to reveal that the Son goes to the Father and sends the Spirt, that the Spirit receives everything from the Son? That is what scripture reveals. With the invention of essence/energies/economy, not only does the doctrine of Divine Simplicity become perverted, but it also asserts that the Trinity exists in one way in time but in another way eternally.
It's possible that I'm theologically confused, as you say. But it seems to me that the Orthodox understanding of the Trinity muddles the relationships between the three
@@agisilaoszenempisis215 you might be correct. However I don't think I'm confused when I say that the Orthodox understanding of the Trinity does nothing to distinguish the Spirit from the Son. The difference between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are distinctions of relationship. The Son is the only begotten of the Father. If the Spirit does not proceed from the Father and the Son then is it a 2nd begotten of the Father? What is the differentiating factor? Further, we take many typologies and patterns that are laid out in scripture and take revelation as God showing us who he is. Both Catholics and Orthodox affirm Mary as the Queen of Heaven because God chose to reveal it. Why then would God choose to reveal that the Son goes to the Father and sends the Spirt, that the Spirit receives everything from the Son? That is what scripture reveals. With the invention of essence/energies/economy, not only does the doctrine of Divine Simplicity become perverted, but it also asserts that the Trinity exists in one way in time but in another way eternally.
It's possible that I'm theologically confused, as you say. But it seems to me that the Orthodox understanding of the Trinity muddles the relationships between the three
Love you Maria.
Very Good Broadcast. Very truthful. Lord Jesus Christ Have Mercy on Us.
Thank you sincerely for the work that you are doing. I just found your channel..
Excellent explanation, fr. Peter. Thank you.
I'm a proud Greek Orthodox Christian ☦️ with out Jesus you cannot enter the kingdom ☦️🇬🇷☦️🇬🇷☦️
All of the "isms" of the world will not prevail against the Lord and his church. Tolerance masquerading as truth is still a lie. ☦
AMEN ☦️☦️
Lord Have Mercy
“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”
- Proverbs 9:10
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
- John 14:6
Well spoken, thank you.
Thank you Father
Good job father! Amen
Bless you Father Peter the holy truth runs through you ,we are so blessed to have so many Orthodox church Father's who are not afraid to speak the true reality of our divided world and help us all stay on the narrow path and prepare us for what is to come...Godbless you and world family...
The new calendar was the start of ecumenism. The Orthodox church must drop the "Revised Julian calendar" and reunite with the Julian calendar (old calendar) in order to heal from heresy.
Yet, the Julian Calendar is off by 11 days...
When mortal human beings attempt to explain ANYTHING they open the door to material desire and are blinded by the contrast between the Holy Light and the darkness of material desire. However, this is not the case for the One who is coming and Who is already here.
I think these orthodox patriarchs must convene a council to solve matter of issues that has been happening. Such as autocephalous church of ukraine, the jurisdiction dispute between antioch and jerusalem etc. It is sad to see these holy churches break off communion with each other
The True Church is based on Apostolic Secession from the moment Our Lord Jesus Christ breathed on the Apostles and they received the power to forgive sins and the mission to bring all men to repentance and a life in Christ. Nothing in the Bible supports all the modern thinkers that are totally dellusional.
Ah you’re talking about The Episcopalian Church. They are the true lovers of Mankind after Christ! This brand of EO is a cult.
The Roman Catholic Church has Apostolic Succession though
@Gigi-ho2qk EO started in 1054 from what the Catholics say!
replying to: @jupiterinaries6150
Of course they would SAY that... which says nothing... as many claim to speak for the truth and are in delusion.
Do your homework and learn the truth:
Watch videos on this channel on:
THE EIGHTH OECUMENICAL COUNCIL.
Watch and learn the truth.
@@OrthodoxEthos Ive listened to both sides and both sides sound like bickering siblings. I think the Catholics make the better case since they have Byzantine Catholic rites which makes a good case for the catholicity. They have the Divine Liturgy also whereas the EO have no corresponding Latin rite and I’m not referring to the Western Orthodox who started in France.
I would love to join an Orthodox Church but it is extremely difficult when I only speak English. The best the Orthodox Church can offer me in Sydney is a fortnight English service.
So true. Orthodoxy was built on atomized ethnic and language groups. That shuts out others who do not speak those languages. Orthodoxy could bring in many in the English speaking world if a) there were one Orthodox church b) English were used c) or if language and liturgy instruction came with joining.
The Greek Orthodox church at Rosebay does the service 75% English, 25% Greek
Better to be a gatekeeper in the house of God than among sinners.
Better to understand 5% than to not be a part of the divine and heavenly liturgy.
Better to suffer and love in communion with God than to be far from communion with God, alone, without the grace of the Divine mysteries.
@@OrthodoxEthos no sin to speak English.
M husband and I were cetechized into the ROC. The language for liturgy is Slavonic and German. I understand German and through the years of following along with the Liturgy in English have a pretty good idea of what is happening. Just go, speak to the Priest. May God Bless you on you journey. 🙏☦️
The only way is through Christ as taught by the Orthodox. There is no other way.
orthodoxy is on its own. catholic church has protection of the Holy Spirit through the pope. that's why orthodox allow divorce, contraception - this goes against what Jesus taught.
@@artifexdei3671 I say this with love: You don't know what you are talking about. The pope is nothing but a heretic who supports worldly things
@@artifexdei3671the Orthodox Church follows the commandments of marriage that is given biblically
@@Birhanesilase does it? what about divorce? does it follow the words of Jesus?
Religions are not equal! Only Christ is the way!
OUR FATHER JESUS CHRIST THE ONE TRUE GOD✝️
SAYS: I AM THE WAY NO OTHER WAY.
GOD FORGIVE THE UNBELIEVERS ✝️🙏🕯️📿🕊️❤️😭
Sounds like the New Word Order to me
The podcast on perennialism... is tonight:
ruclips.net/user/liveOW4mzl8vFOY?feature=share
세상인가 말인가?
There is a reason why time after the Incarnation is called A D. ( Anno Domini). The Incarnation is called " the maximum of differentiation "by the German political scientist the great German political scientist -Eric Voeglin.
Two days ago, a Serbian patriarch threw the following anathema:
"To those who wrongly teach about the Holy Spirit, that he proceeds from the Father, anathema!"
And the next one:
"To those who wrongly teach about the Church of God as the body of Christ, anathema!"
This is a terrible scandal and we are still waiting for him to apologize, but nothing for now.
A few priests said that his words were "misunderstood" by "malicious zealots", but there is no place for ambiguity here, the words are clear.
Can you imagine this?! This may sound like a joke, but sadly, it's true!
Perhaps he misspoke?
Source?
I was literally horrified, I couldn't believe my ears, so I listened to it over and over and over again. Yes, he said that, which means that he threw anathema on all the orthodox. We are doomed anyways.
@@GuyOnTheInternet634 I only wish it was, but it wasnt
Wait, really?
You both have strong roles in holding the fort until Love Incarnate RULES!
The thing they did by lighting the candles, really gave me a pain I never imagined I would feel. Truly, may Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ have mercy on us because that level of delusion to exist in Orthodoxy really pains me...
The orthodox didn't do it. The Catholic pope was there.
Immediately after the last supper the disciples also disputed amongst themselves "who is the greatest"...and NOT who is the ONLY ONE
Doesn’t your comment presuppose the idea that those of other faiths are “disciples” of Jesus? The disciples are one in Christ, the body of Christ, His Church. Your comment suggests that both (I don’t mean to pick on any particular faith but in general) a Muslim, a Mormon, and a Buddhist are somehow “disciples”.
@@josiahalexander5697 His disciples were Jews which were already fragmented and in fighting is why Rome was there to keep them from killing each other-His Church now is literally killing itself in Ukraine EAST and LATINS divided by V2 being a change too far…both of these claim to be the ONLY TRUE…there was also complaints of His disciples of someone casting out demons by His Name who wasn’t following them their group-He said is ok-
6:08 - 6:15
Here we see the Orthodox Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, Bartholomew.
Fr. Peter, I am under the Ecumenical Patriarchate in the Greek Archdiocese, since Patriarch Bartholomew has communed with the Ukrainian schismatics, does that make him and the whole Patriarchate as well? I can’t seem to get an answer on this.
Those who commune, commune... and are in error and walking further toward the exit door of Orthodoxy.
Many in Greece and elsewhere are FIGHTING against their decision on the Ukrainian schismatics and their communion with them.
Many on Athos do NOT commune with them or the schismatics.
So: let's not be overly legalistic, but rather identify with the Fathers who are remaining strong and resisting this great error and innovation. Let's join them in resisting, in prayer and action -- as far as that is in our power in our place. But, let us not judge ship and allow the ship of those Local Churches which have leaders who have fallen into this error to be ruled over by those not of right spiritual mind.
@@OrthodoxEthos Thank you for the response. I am under Met. Alexios, who as far as I can tell is very good. My parish priest is also very good and is solidly Orthodox. If at any point either of them decide to commune with the schismatics, I assume that is the point which I should leave.
Did any orthodox Christian priest take part in the ceremony of the lamps along with all the others? If so, then, God help us!!
Did you see the video... did you recognize the bishop there?
@@OrthodoxEthos No, I did not see it. Where can I find it?
They do and did, it's not the first time they try to push this new age agenda and bringing the dark era. Not all of them do, but some participate.
WHATS THE NAME O THE CHANT AT THE END?
I wonder if Maria is of Greek background.
Serbian
What if I don't have an Orthodox Church anywhere near me? Am I just not a part of the church?
I see non-Christian religions as missing the true path to repentance, humility, and being able to truly connect back to God. I wish everyone could see Christ and His sacrifice and resurrection as the only narrow strong bridge across the chasm of life that rejoins one to our Holy Father. Our repentance is produced by His love.
My question is, can the Orthodox Christians be the only Christians to know Christ? If you are a Christian who understands to strive toward the fruits of the Spirit and is not, for lack of better words, liberal or progressive in theology, are you not on the right path with Our Lord?
The other main problem why people fall into this delusion is lack of spiritual discernment coming from the lack of asceticism, i.e. fasting, repentance, vigilance and the Jesus prayer. If your notion of asceticism is equalled to yoga or whatnot then....bummer
What if someone worships satan? Must we respect satan and the demonic powers? ***Rhetorical question***
no
No! **Rhetorical answer**
@@OrthodoxEthos I hope just as in the days of the early church we have many great saints who rise up against this crisis that has befallen Orthodoxy. The gates of hell shall not prevail but I hope we get some major pushback sooner rather than later as I have seen far too many Clergy and Laity be ecumenist.
Perennialism doesn't hold that you should. Whether or not the 'transcendent unity of religions' is true, setting up a straw man, calling it Perennialism & burning it isn't in the service of Truth. The fact is that Perennialism ipso facto prohibits syncretism, precisely because the purported unity is *transcendent*. The Perennialists do not claim, as Fr Peter suggests, that all religions are the same in their esoteric forms. It holds that they are more similar in their esoteric forms than in their exoteric forms (which is an observable fact), but that all are always necessarily *distinct*, and the various paths only ever meet in God. Any Perennialist worth his weight in salt recognizes that mixing the religions destroys them. And many Perennialists worry, as Fr Peter does, that Perennialism will be perverted & used as a support for the religion of antichrist
0:54 "it has crept into almost all religions"... Buddhists & Hindus see the Universe in a totally different dimension (they could care less whether "Orthodox" join them or not)... Muslims & Jews have not changed their theological views in 16-25 centuries (they would prefer "Orthodoxy" disapparing) 🤔
Kaden; You said that Paul admonished the thessalonians for not following certain traditions that were in the Bible. I wanted to know what they were.
What does the person of Jesus have to do with the Bible? Do you like the personality of Einstein, Newton or Raphael? Is this their creativity or just Heavenly Jazz?
What are your thougts on Meletius Metaxakis and all subsequent Œcumenical patriarchs?
How many of them are commemorated as saints? How many of them have been involved in Freemasonry and Ecumenistic compromises?
Η πόλις εάλω.
그것은 조금 복잡합니다. 왜냐하면 우리 모두는 그분의 영광스러운
나타나심에 대한 복되 소망을 가지고 그리스도 아래 교회의 연합을
기대하고 있기 때문입니다. 그러나 그 전에 짐승과 거짓선지자 아래
교단의 가짜 연합이 일어날 것이기 때문에 우리는 조심하고 경계해야
합니다.
@kaden; how is lds unbiblical?
LDS? - Latter Day Saints?
lds -- ?
@@OrthodoxEthos yes latter Day Saints.
They added a third Testament. So many of their beliefs are beyond heretical. They deny the triune God of all. I could go on and on. My husband was once LDS.
Jesus said he did not come to bring peace. You must chose.
So im not saved even though i affirm and accept Jesus as Lord? So i need works?
Your works testify to your faith, when done for God’s glory. “Faith without works is dead”- James. Your works are not a crass way of merit-based salvation, but emanate from you as you are being in Christ. Luther (and I was Lutheran once) wanted to remove St James from the canon because of what I just quoted, because it did not fit his new doctrine. Peace.
The Lord established the Orthodox Church for man’s salvation and the New Testament was written to be read by those in the Church. The Church is Christ’s body and one must become part of Christ’s body to attain salvation. To be outside of Christ’s body while believing in Him is to still remain separate from Him.
@OrthodoxEthos What about the woman at the well, and Jesus said to her that it won't matter where we worship? Isn't the church anyone that receives the Holy Spirit?
@@nicholaswheeler507you are misreading that scripture
@@billybenson3834 You know nothing. Grace by faith.
Algorithm boost.
Matthew 23: 9 - 11 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
Lol
Then you literally shouldn't call your biological dad, Father... but you do.
Don't equate anyone with GOD the Father....do not give anyone the same label As God Your Father.
Paul himself in Corinthians uses parent/children metaphors.
PLEASE VIEW THIS:
ruclips.net/video/5K8m2BADWrI/видео.html
this man found Matthew 23:9! For 2000 years no scholar, Church Father, priest, or layperson had ever seen or properly understood this crucial verse. Suddenly @WarbandGames comes along in the depths of the youtube comments and disproves all the ancient Apostolic Churches with a single verse. Took 2000+ years but he did it. What a time to be alive.
I don’t think you understand what the unity in this case means.
Jesus is asking only to celebrate the Easter together, since Catholics and Orthodox are celebrating on a different date.
Father Peter who is your bishop?
Is your Pope even Catholic? With Pachamama and the Abrahamic Family House I'd say no. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.
@@ElonMuskrat-my8jy It's a good question I've heard he isn't under a bishop and if he isn't that should raise some questions mainly.should we listen to this person
@@Dominique-wc9hm The issue has been settled. If you actually cared you could do a quick online search and find out for yourself. But you don't care. You just want to cast doubt on his teachings which are those of the Holy Fathers.
Did you watch the latest conference proceedings?
Did you see Metropolitan Seraphim praise Fr. Peter?
Did you see Metropolitan Neophytos interview / discussion with Fr. Peter last week?
Did you see that Bishop Longin blessed the conference?
That Fr. Peter served all of the Divine Services?
Do you think that these bishops would bless Fr. Peter and his work if he was not a legitimate and canonical priest?
@@Dominique-wc9hm
You should come to learn. Humble yourself
Perfectly said!!!! Amen. For those who lit that tree are not following the one true God. We are in trouble and in need of repentance, but like Saint John the Russian said, (there must be a war).
Planet she says! Show me the curvature (you can't it doesn't exist)! We live on a plane not a planet or a pear!
Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Circle (מעגל) not a ball (כַּדוּר)!
Moscow Patriarchate are syncretists too.
I looked up the definition of Perennialism. What I found is that it's a accumulation of all knowledge of civilization and how we we can learn from those wise individuals who came before us. In other words it sounds like a classical education. I'm not sure what this has to do with Ecumenism.
For example it would include Plato, Aristotle, other Greek philosophers, probable some far eastern philosophies as well. It would also include those who came later such as Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine.
Is there another definition of Perennialism that I'm not aware?
The podcast on perennialism... is tonight:
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@@OrthodoxEthos I'll put in request right now if you would give a solid definition of perennialism as you see it.
@Gigi-ho2qk Perhaps Mountain Press can produce a glossary for confusing terms. It might make understanding what the church fathers are talking about easier as well.
I don't understand how any Orthodox can say the church remained unchanged when the first split occured in the 5th century. Then again in the 11th century and once more in the 17th century, between Catholics and Protestants. Orthodox experienced two splits and so did the Catholics and the Protestants fractalized.
If you are a respecter of persons, you do not have the love of God in you. That much I know is clear. Scripture can not be broken.
The Orthodox Church is neither diminished nor divided when people depart from the Church in schism and heresy, but we hope that all who have departed will return for the sake of their salvation.
The split between Rome and the Western Reformers wasn't in the Church. Once Rome departed in the 11th century it was no longer in the Church. The same with the churches that departed in the 5th century.
Η Ορθόδοξη αλληθεια έμεινε αμετάβλητη λόγο της παρουσίας του Αγίου Πνεύματος.Η Εκκλησία δυστηχως έπεσε σε σχήζματα αιρέσεις λόγο της οιησεως ορισμένων ηγετών που πλανηθηκαν.Η αλληθεια όμως έχει διαχρονικη ισχη γιατί είναι ο Θεάνθρωπος Χριστός.
Because the Church is a tangible institution and you think of it like an abstract community. If the Arians separate themselves by redefining their beliefs, the Church doesn't change. It's not one Church, redefined with watered down beliefs blended somewhere in between the Christians and Arians. It's one Church made up of Christians and then the Arians are out of the Church doing whatever it is Arians do
She's beautiful.
The priest serves the oikoumenism
Here comes Peter with his newly made over self; aiming to be the preist-next-door type. Ugqh!
Father Peter hasn't really changed looks or message since I started watching him 3 years ago.
The True Church is the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, and the pope is the Vicar of Christ. The Church is active in the world, not secluded in ivory towers confined to merely babbling and arguing about theology. If you want to learn what and why the Church teaches what it does simply study the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
the pope's an apostate
Is maria orthodox?
Yes
I don't respect man made gods. Jesus is the only way
Then why stay in communion with Bishops that continue in this heresy? Thinking that a time will come when these so-called Bishops will come together in council and condemn this vile heresy, a heresy they hold to, is wishful thinking at best.
You don’t know church history very well if you think that by separating and creating parallel jurisdictions that’s how the fathers fault heresy. Before a council.
Many examples: Saint Meletio of Antioch, Saint Jerusalem, Saint Ambrose of Milan. … for example show us that the contemporary zealot answer of flee and break *even with other Orthodox* is no solution at all.
Read about the history of Saint Maximus, and *after his repose.* How many years until the council? 20. 20 years, they said the same thing you’re saying: no hope. And yet the Lord saved and always saves the Church.
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1/ 12 Nowhere in Old Testament or New Testament does it say IN HEERS OWN WORDS you know they used to say not long ago you have to respect the person who has another God
Who are they ?Peter Heers since they clearly do not speak Divine Life Giving Word of God so why do you quote them or even pay attention to they ?
Which Biblical quote can you justify for They used to say ?
If one is obedient to our Lord, then we must allow ourselves to be open to the Holy Spirit. For it is only through the Holy Spirit that unity can be restored. The closing off due to fear of a so called disintegration of the faith is ignorant and show no trust in the Holy Spirit. You express the major problem within Orthodoxy, conflict, political infighting, disfunction. While many Orthodox work towards unity, some as your self righteous self, project this idea of the purity of Orthodoxy, that is has never drifted away, and somehow pure Christianity would be lost, what garbage! How short your memory is, the vast majority of the heresies in the early church came out of the east. Arianism being the most influential engulfing the east to include the Emperor. It took 700 years to rid the church of the belief, and it was Rome and Alexandria which saved the true faith. Icons, while the west has no problem are a 5th century innovation or developments, nothing shows this practice comes down to us from the apostles, if it did the west would have the same practice. Palamism is also a later development not found in the sacred Tradition and is a heresy. Orthodox disfunction and hardships over the centuries is based on three factors, one they separated from Rome, and second, they created an imperial church sucking up to the political powers instead of demanding a free and independent Church which Rome always demanded, and thirdly the ethnic structure of the east which has become so intrenched and lacks any semblance of being Catholic.
You, sir, are what the Orthodox have always called a heretic.
You sit in judgment of the Saints. You arrogate to yourself the idea that you are above and can judge the Church and her Saints. You do not follow the Saints as the Orthodox have always done. And you were led into delusion. And pride is the main culprit.
Humble yourself before the Saints and their teachings and God will illuminate your darkness.
It was the great Saints of the Church who fought and defeated the various heresies. Your analysis above is extremely superficial and arrogant.
@OrthodoxEthos I totally understand humility and obedience to our Lord. I sit in judgment, now that is the pot calling the kettle black. I am not arrogant, but so many Orthodox who sit all high and mighty and proclaim we are the true church. Please spare me. It is Orthodox like yourself who are poison to the faith. Humble yourself to Jesus' prayer, "may they all be one". I am so thankful for Patriarch Bartholomew, a true man of God who seeks a path of reconciliation instead of division and bigotry. While other such as Metropolitan Kalistos Ware of happy memory also work diligently and listened instead of accusing found common understanding on those issues which supposedly divide us. Shame on you!!!
I'm not going into the falsity of the rest of the comment of yours as I don't have time, but to be fair, so-called "Palamism" isn't a heresy in your religion as your Byzantine Uniates believe in it and teach it. That is true dysfunction, the Papal institution allowing contradicting belief systems as long as fealty is given to the Papacy.
Also, the the faux humility and pride you are displaying here are very off putting. It doesn't put one in the want for unity. At any rate, unity cannot be and this is partly why. It is a worldly want, one that says truth doesn't matter but feelings do.
@LadyMaria actually I know it isn't and he has been well received by the Catholic church. The Church has no issue with palamism. My goal was for him to feel the same anger we do when lies and falsehoods are presented as truth. If Orthodoxy has remained true it is because of Rome. There were many schism in the early church caused by heresies from the east, Arianism, Nestorianism, sabellianism, Donatism etc, etc... These caused hundreds of years of separation, only Rome remained true as the early church Father's attest to. Everything else I mentioned is absolutely accurate.
@danvinsontrailor2339 I am well aware of Palamism and I know it is not a heresy and Rome has no issues. I purposely made that statement to show how wrong and bigoted it is when Orthodox make false claims and accusation against the west. I am most thankful for those like Patriarch Bartholomew, and Metropolitan Kalistos Ware and all those who seek reconciliation. Our Lord prayed May they all be one, and messages like this do great harm cause confusion. Fr Heer even denigrates the Patriarch of Constantinople. Disobedience and a severe lack of respect for the office.
been a Greek Orthodox Christian very disappointed of the teachings of my church and special of the ever virgin panagia the mother of God = Athena the ever virgin goddess from the pagan 12 gods that we are praying to save us having over 325 different names more that our G_D ,and of the day of orthodoxy the restoration of the icons after all the killings that took place for icons the GOSPEL is not teach or proclaim from our priests and the Bishops been masons and also baptizing homosexuals and marry them may THE LORD JESUS CHRIST have mercy on us.🥲
None of that (the parts that actually make sense of what you wrote) is true. Well, I'll give you the mason thing but the rest is anoisíes.
The communist KGB was welcomed into the Russian Orthodox Church and never left. That's disgusting.
That’s why there is ROCOR
@@HubertofLiege ROCOR reunited with Moscow Patriarchate in 2007. Thankfully still not in World Council but Patriarchate is. Schizophrenic?
Being infiltrated on pain of death is different from “welcoming KJB.” Some members betraying the Church is not “the Russian Orthodox Church”. Many clergy & faithful fled for their lives in the wake of the revolution that brought in the Soviet power (now defunct for 30 years). Do you have a problem with CIA members being members of Protestant Churches? Over a decade ago Christianity Today did an article on CIA infiltration of Protestant mission agencies like New Tribes and Wycliffe to spy in South American countries (where US has staged coups). Is this right? No.
The saints did not follow or support and yet did not abandon, either.
@@OrthodoxEthos My Russian Orthodox friend told me to beware as ROCOR reunited with Moscow Patriarchate in 2007....so confusing.
Ngl clicked for the chick
Lust is a bad sin
@@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136It is and luckily I didn't commit it! 🙌
@@dp34576 "ngl I clicked for the chick" is a quote from you no?
I undersign every word spoken in this video father. Just don't speak about the 8th Ecumenical Council and we will be in agreement.
You don't want us to follow the Holy Fathers who spoke of it?:
Saint Nektarios, for example?
@@OrthodoxEthos St. Nektarios is a great saint and I respect him very much. I even have his icon. But, as you probably know, Typikon takes precedence over any individual opinions.
@@OrthodoxEthosΤι είπε ο Άγιος Νεκτάριος;
Fr. Peter, with all due respect, what on earth are you blathering about? If the Eastern Orthodox truly is the true church then it would do its utmost to fix its own immense jurisdictional and ethophyletist chaos and start catering to all people in all places. Is this what the world sees in actual reality? Constaninople and the Russian patriarchate have broken communion and two Orthodox churches on the same street can't even celebrate the same service or fast on the same day or have the same bishop. And then you talk about unity? Fix your own problems first and maybe then you will be a beacon of light to the world fot the truth. The Church Fathers were united, present day Orthodoxy certainly isn't. If the Church Fathers were here today they'd get very upset, because the leaders of the Orthodox church had failed miserably to provide even unity within the own group. The problem is not with others - let them go the way the wish - but with us. We are hidden, obscure, often in reality catering only to ethnic groups. How is the church going to spread the message of truth to the world unless break down the national barriers which so hinders even canonical celebration? Stop driving with you eyes fixed to the rear view mirror and look out the windshield. There are people ahead of us on the road, travellers as us.
The Orthodox Church continues to produce Holy Fathers. You seem unaware of Church history. Read about St. Basil, St. John Chrysostom, St. Gregory the Theologian, etc. The Church has always been one, but disputes, breaking of communion between local churches, etc. are neither new nor foreign to the Apostolic and Patristic Faith. The Papacy is a plastic and fake unity, with everything being permissible as long as one submits to the heretical Pope. This is why the Pope is a forerunner of the Antichrist, because truth is abandoned for the sake of a “unity” based on demonic falsehood.
We have 6 different jurisdictions of the Papal institution here in this valley, all under different Bishops.
Why are you mentioning the Papacy? I didn't say anything about it did I? I am talking about us, about our problem s, practical problems, which hinders the spread of the Orthodox faith as commanded by Christ. You get awfully defensive immediately. The fathers you mention have hardly been "produced" in this day and age. We are not living in the 400s now are we.The breach of communion today also hardly deals with 'local' churches, Russian being home for over 100 million devotees and Constantinople being the New Rome. The question isn't so much about what is new, the question is if we have real control over anything. Kirill blesses the war and supports the slaughter of Orthodox and yet nobody seems to think is important. Surely that's not something that will show Average Joe something ethereal about our great concern for humanity.
Why are you mentioning the Papacy at all? I didn't even mention or allude to the Papacy. Is that the limit of your vision? Come on guys, that's a strawman fallacy right there. Surely we grownups can at least stay on the subject. You are arguing like my dear wife. 😂
@@locksmith9498me thinks the lady doth protest too much
I have immense respect for your church and especially for Jesus Christ, but the idea that Christianity holds a monopoly on the "Truth" seems silly to me. There's a lot we can learn from others, and I see a tendency in all religious people (not just Christians) who deride anything outside their faith as "of the devil", evil, wrong, heretical.
I don't believe most Christians can refute other religions because they usually have a very poor understanding of them. Likewise I don't think people from other religions understand Christianity very well. People understand their own religion very well, but the world is a very big place.
The Bible says X, the Bible says Y. I'm sure it does. Many other sacred texts make many bold claims. Why am I to take the Bible more seriously than any other? Because it's most familiar to me in the west? It's not heresy for heresies sake.
It's that I have yet to get a satisfactory answer aside from "our way or the highway". The Muslims say the same thing.
I don't think Christianity is false, on the contrary I think it speaks a lot of truth. Christians are not the only ones who speak truth however. Generally speaking I listen to what people have to say about their own faith, and listen little when they criticize others' faith.
The issue with ecumenism is that other faiths are not changing their beliefs at all or accepting Christ, at least not the True Christ and His Words, but Christians are completely negating Christ to form a fraternity of men (this is freemasonry in disguise, and this is putting other men first before God). Ecumenism is now an anti-Christian effort that has infiltrated the Church to stop evangelization, and to promote some sort of "Pax Romana" based on polytheism where all gods are valid and accepted. This is heresy, and this is why God often left the Israelites on their own, because they often would betray God and accept other gods from other cultures.
The Bible doesn't say we need to convert everyone or force them to believe what we do. It only says to share the gospel and if it isn't welcomed to simply dust our feet off and leave.
I have compassion and it is not my place to judge others for not believing what I believe. However, our focus shouldn't be fraternity in the world, but only in Christ, regardless of whether it is offensive to others or not. Also, our focus shouldn't be negating Christianity while simultaneously accepting non-Christian beliefs to not offend others, but to evangelize even if it offends others, and if they don't accept it, them dust our feet off. They are free to share their beliefs too, and do it, and freedom of speech is good, but we also are free to choose what to believe in, and to reject what we don't believe.
I'm Catholic, and I oppose the ecumenical movements within the Church and disagree with our current Pope. I have great respect for the Orthodox Church and most of their teachings and theology are the same as Catholic (I know all of the theological differences too). I agree with their concern and understand that just as true Catholics are concerned with this, a true Orthodox should too.
I live in a protestant country and there are true few Christians so one of my true friends is reformed protestant. At first, we both thought we would eventually have some issue, but so far we have bonded over our love for Christ and have a beautiful friendship.
Our theological views are even more different than those between Catholics and Orthodox, yet surpringly, we often end up coming up with the same conclusions and we still practice Christianity in similar ways because when you are truly Christian at heart, the focus will be Christ, not a humanitarian fraternity. We both practice chastity, pray together, love Jesus, believe in the importance of repentance (she even confesses her sins to counselors in her church because she believes it helps her - sadly, she might be missing on some graces received in a sacramental confession, but God sees her heart and might still have mercy on her), try to be honest, when we have issues and share it with each other we pray to God and find comfort in His Word, etc. We are always focused on Jesus, on following the 10 Commandments, and on pleasing God and growing in virtue.
Yet there are plenty of Catholics who should in theory be living similar to me and they are not. I've also met a couple of Orthodox people and they weren't too devout despite the Orthodox faith being amazing and holding a great deposit of truth. So which church you belong to in a way is irrelevant if you don't put Christ first. But, that doesn't mean we should adopt heresy and create more confusion.
So yes, I do think finding the greatest deposit of faith is important, but most importantly is to have a relationship with Christ, and to live as a true Christian. Also, what you or others believe contains the greatest deposit of truth will differ so, yes, fighting about this book said this and this other said that is in a way irrelevant. What matters is that you are true to your convictions and what you believe, which is not what ecumenism teaches.
If someone truly loves God they will seek Him and find Him, and that is my belief. To me, it was learning about history, medically recorded miracles, an apparition of Jesus to my mom and my aunt together when they were children, learning about the lives of the saints, and seeing the perfect wisdom in Christ's teachings (I personally don't find that wisdom in any other teachings from any other religion and I truly went around and was agnostic for a while) that made me finally adopt Christianity, freely, by choice, out of love and true conviction. In particular, I found the Catholic faith to be the truest form of Christianity with Orthodoxy coming second (and perhaps is the other way around, but in good faith I follow God to the best of my understanding. In some cases I even agree more with Orthodoxy than Catholicism, but, in general, I'm Catholic).
Also, applying to my daily life what Christ teaches has been life changing and brought me a sense of peace and freedom and well-being that I have never experienced before.
@@saturnFIV3 Christianity makes historical claims that can be verified. The Muslim book affirms the books of the bible. It affirms the authority of the Scripture. In one Chapter of the Quran, some Jews are having a dispute and ask Muhammed to help them resolve it. Muhammed places the Torah in the judgement seat and appeals to its' authority. Muhammad thought he was a profit in the succession of Jews and Christians and the early chapters of the Quran are very amenable to both. As he presents himself as a prophet to the Jews and later the Christians, both reject him as being a false prophet and his attitudes towards both become more hostile and the spread of Islam is done by war and by force. By his own account Muhammad's revelations were sometimes confused with falsehoods from Satan and he had to consult with his wife's cousin who could read to see if his revelations were from Allah or from the devil. Unfortunately, her cousin was a Nestorian heretic and so it goes that a Christian heresy spawned an entire false religion that spread through warfare and butchery.
The Jews during the time of the 2nd temple when Jesus was alive had many prophetic verses in the Old Testament which would have pointed to Jesus Christ. There are writings of 1st century Rabbis that confirm they had to reinterpret prophecies to subvert the claims of the early Christians. You ever wonder why Jewish heritage is said to be passed from the mother's bloodline? This wasn't always the case - it changed in the 1st century. Why? The Gospel of St. Matthew, which gives us Joseph's lineage, was written for a Jewish audience and establishes Jesus as a descendant of David through his legal father, Joseph. According to Jewish law at the time this would point to Jesus being of the line of David as a legal son would inherit his adopted father's birthright. Not having access to the Gospel of St. Luke, which gives us Mary's lineage, the Rabbis changed the law so that the Jewish bloodline passes from the Mother. The irony of this is that in doing so they actually make King David, a non-Jew, by his ancestor Ruth who has her own book in the OT.
Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Christianity possesses the fullness of the truth for those who knock, seek, and ask.
There are great truths in most religions, but ultimately there is only one truth. Christ said “I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me” a clear statement for Christians. Orthodoxy, and I am of this faith, does not go about saying who is hell bound, etc., or for that matter who is so good they must be in heaven, but clearly believes Christ is the way to salvation. All religions have a core doctrine of some kind, and Christ is ours, the rock on whom we stand- however imperfectly. Ultimately, God judges all of us, and will at the Last Judgement. To live as Christ is our earthly goal, though we fail at it, often, and salvation is a journey, but on that journey we have Orthodoxy, which means “right glory”. Peace.
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