Why Is Everyone SELLING Their Kawasaki KLR650?!
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"KLR is about taking you on an adventure rather than being the adventure." Well said.
Sounds like a nicer way of saying "The bike isn't very fun, but it will get you from A to B"
@@Shintenzu I rode my KLR from SF to Ushuaia in 2012, along the way meeting my wife. The money I saved bought me a lot of time, and the simplicity of the bike got me through a number of jams. I don't look back and think the ride would have been better with a bigger or faster bike.
That said, everyone needs to ride their own ride, whether you're on a Super Cub or a big GS or just on a bicycle. The important thing is to get out there, and the KLR's big draw (imho) is that it makes adventure accessible.
@@Shintenzu point being that if point "B" is in the densest forest, or the top of a mountain, or the other side of the world, the KLR will get you there, where 99% of other bikes can't.
@@Twinspinner If compared to street bikes sure. However most dual sports and off-road biased ADVs in its weight class outperform it in almost every category.
If you know, you know!!!!!
I rolled my KLR down a mountain. It was still running when it landed. My friends helped me walk it uphill. Nothing was broken, hoped on it and rode off. That’s what KLR is for.
They are tough as nails
You hoped on it?Lol
Wouldn't it have been easier just to ride it down? And if you were just going back up, why bother?
@@TH4.W4TCH4 there was literally half of the mountain to go down, with rocky cliffs
@@Grunt49he was probably hoping that it still worked
Why do I love the KLR? Because it's a tank and gets the job done. No fussing with detailing work or intricate maintenance routines or worrying about 'keeping up with the Kardashians' to impress other people. I ride a lot and ask many tasks of it - never complains. #Utility
The KLR just keeps turning up
I've noticed the same with my V-Strom 650. It's always dirty because it's always being ridden.
@@cowmath77 *Outsourcing one's pride in the opinions of others - (Kardashian)
@@cowmath77 There are riders that ride so often, the focus is the experience, and those whose bikes are always spotless because they're restaurant cruisers. It makes no sense that frequent riders with dirty bikes don't care about their machines. It's just impractical to detail something that will be covered in bugs and dust the next day.
@@cowmath77 then i guess you havent met enough rider? every rider that prefer function over form that i know, always have their bike dirty / not shiny but they always takes very good care of their engine. They want their bike to perform whenever its needed, and a cracked fairings aint gonna hinder them as much as a stalled engine that lacks maintenance. When these type meet up, they usually talk about where have you been to? is it a nice ride going there? etc.
on the other hand, those riders that you mention mostly never ride their bike daily (maybe weekend) and or just a short distances rider. In my experiences, all they talk about is how fast they accelerate or how beautiful this or that mods, how many HP your mod made, etc. (nothing wrong with it tho...)
KLR can be defined by one word: Simplicity
aside from time you actually have to fix it
@EllAntares I just fixed my broken choke. Forum from 2009 said to just buy a choke eliminator knob, and call it a day. Other than having to take the fuel tank off, was a super easy fix. That day was also the first time I had ever changed to oil on any vehicle, just to show my experience level 😅
Currently at ~12,000km on my 2022 KLR650 that I got in September last year.
Isn't fast or exciting but wherever you want to go it'll get you there eventually, and that's why I love mine
100% correct and 12000km is a lot in that amount of time!
Klr is my first bike and this is the exact reason I bought it I just hit the one year mark and have rode 5100 miles roughly 8200 km a couple spills but no issues unlike friends that have bought other bikes im the only one that hasn't had a problem! Not fast but reliable and a absolutely tank!
I’d buy a klr if it wasn’t the ugliest bike I’ve ever seen
As the happy new owner of a KLR650, I was prepared to be outraged by this video, but you explained it perfectly...and you perfectly described all the reasons I love my bike.
Good to hear mate
Hey how's the thing on the highway? I know it's been a bit since you made this comment. I'm deciding between this and a v strom 650
@@Sil3ntD3ath478 it's ok. The Vstrom is a much better highway bike
@@onthebackwheel that's kinda the general sentiment from what I've found. So I'm gonna end up with that, because we're planning on taking road trips over 1k miles. I'd rather be more comfortable on the highway
@@Sil3ntD3ath478 that definitely sounds like the better option for you. I wouldn't want to ride the KLR for that long on the highway. It'll do it...but you'd rather be on the Vstrom
Interesting! I bought a 2022 base model back in the spring because I couldn't get parts for my 2014 Vstrom 650. I love the KLR and won't be selling. I do mostly mini adventures in the state forests of the Berkshire Hills of western Massachusetts (USA) and it's just perfect for a 150 mile day on secondary roads and the dirt roads in the forest. Single tracking is not something I have the talent for but the forest double tracks are great fun on the KLR. It gets me to hiking spots that our inaccessible with my car. I'm 66 years old and having a blast even when I'm left in the dust a bit by my friends who ride a Ducati 1260 Multistada and an Africa Twin.
Legend, sounds like you're having a blast
I’m 69, and been on an Africa twin since 2020. I can no longer pick up after a drop or fall. I’ve wondered if the KLR, at around 65# lighter might be possible. I actually rode one last spring, a friend has one and wants to sell.
@@PeterVred it's lighter, but will probably still be a struggle tbh. It's a heavy machine. Perhaps a 690?
Well I'm 66 and I strained my back attempting to pick up my 2022 KLR after a spill, but I foolishly tried a lift against a small slope. I should have dragged it around and used the slope in my favor. In any case, I'm now avoiding rougher terrain unless I'm riding with friends who are all a bit younger. I really like my KLR, though, and at this point I can't see down sizing.
Hi Mark, I’m from western mass also and probably ride some of the same trails. I have a bad back and so far can still pick up my DR650 without too much trouble, it’s a bit lighter than the KLR and you have 6 years on me but I do think about the day I might have to buy a lighter bike for off road, maybe the Honda 300 you hear so much about. The other important thing about riding off road for me is staying active when I’m not riding, lots of walks or hikes will help that back. Good luck
No...I sold a year old Pan America and bought the KLR. All that high tech crap gets you nowhere but the Harley service dept. The simple, reliable,and cheap KLR, will get you anywhere. I love it!
Smart man. I had a $16k Triumph 800xcx offroad a lot and had to fight with all the electronic aids constantly, and could never open the throttle offroad with 100hp. I started simple, had a ton of expensive HD's and other bikes and like you I just own my reliable bikes. Putting on hundreds of worry free miles is 10x more enjoyable than waiting for repairs/parts or walking home.
Same here mate! My new Harley needed a warranty gearbox and engine at 1,000 miles. I sold it back to the stealership and bought the KLR. I thought about the T7 but over here in Australia I can have 2 GenIII KLRs for the price of the T7. I can’t justify the extra price for the T7’s extra power. Sure, it’s probably a lot of fun feeding the T7’s throttle but the KLR goes everywhere the T7 does and you’re not worried about your hip pocket.
@@jasonrichardwatts Good on ya! I rode a buds T7 last week end. Sure the extra zip in the engine is nice, but overall, the bike was not nearly as comfortable as the KLR.
That’s quite the contrast !! 150 hp to 42 !
@@h.d.mech.mortenson2098 What good is 150hp when the bike won't run? My Pan Am was a clusterf##k. I've completed every ride I started with the KLR, can't say that about the PA
I bought my first KLR in 2000, and at one point in time you'd think I ran a KLR rescue operation. Having moved on to other rides (both bigger and smaller) if I wanted something that size again it'd probably be a DR650 with an aftermarket fuel tank- because I got tired of smashing, or worrying about smashing, the radiator.
Try not crashing!
I think some people got butt hurt by your comment. lol
Yep I went with the xr 650l but they're all great bikes. Just wanted a little more ground clearance and as you pointed out to not poke a stick through my radiator and after some mods it's excellent.
I have a DR650 and I did smash the oil cooler (ruclips.net/video/Jja_hCvsEbI/видео.html). An aftermarket/oversized full tank may have protected it, though.
I knew what I was getting when I got the KLR. It was my first motorcycle and I wanted something that wouldn't absolutely kick my ass while also being reliable and easy to work on. It is a learner in all aspects. I also wanted a bike that handled abuse well and after all the research I did, all roads pointed to the KLR. As I tell most folks, I wanted a bike the responded to abuse with "Harder Daddy!" and she sure as hell has been, because I have been far from gentle with her.
The KLR just keeps coming back for more 🤣
My KLR 650S is my first motorcycle too, for all the same reasons that you well-mentioned.
My KLR is for sale ,only because my knees are shot not the bikes fault , this bike will give a person years of riding, without much time in the shop , technology is great but expensive Simple isn't.
You nailed it. I can also add. When a new model comes out many idiot impulse buyers have to have it now! Happens with cars and motorcycles. When the excitement wears off in a few months it gets traded or sold for the next impulse buy. The 3rd gen KLR was no different. I bought mine from one of those buyers and I love mine.
A good point that I didn't think of
I wouldn't call them idiots. They just like the newest thing and thats great for the rest of us that are looking for a good deal. If you can afford to jump on the newest thing, more power to you. Keep it up! I'll continue to look for deals.
I rode a 2009 KLR for 48,000 miles and the only reason I sold it was to buy my current 2022 KLR Adventure. I love that these bikes are simple, rugged and just a joy to ride.
Nice mate
Why replace it? Was something wrong with the 09?
@@raizt1596 My buddy wanted it and I wanted to try out the new version.
Did you do the doo on either of them?
Nope, no problems with either of them.@@HooDRidEWhiteY
I'm actually very seriously considering getting back onto a KLR. I sold mine in late 2021 to get onto an MT07, as I wasn't using it as an adventure bike or even going off the tarmac at all. Every time I went for a ride it was just twisties or commuting. But lately, I've really missed the versatility, low cost of maintenance and weather protection of the KLR. That, and the MT07 is an absolute hoon bike, which is great fun in the right time and place, but not so good for the licence when it's also my daily. I'm also at a point in my life where I'd love to be able to strap 20kg of stuff to the back instead of having to drive a car, or tie on some camping gear and take off up the bush for a couple of days - none of which I can do on the MT07.
Hehe yep, I know the feeling
The MT-09 is just as bad. You can't really ride it without going 2x on the speed limit. The capabilities of the bike make the roads designed for old ladies in Cadilac's seem like airport runways. You either have to decide the laws are for suckers and if I see a cop hit his lights I am gone or you ride the bike far far far below what it was designed for.
EDIT: Moral of the story it is generally more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow.
@@NONO-hz4vo 💯👍 Thrashing a Single Cylinder Dual Sport around town can Way more fun than Putting around on a 1000cc 🚀Crotch Rocket! The Ridiculous Penalties you get for Speeding here in OZ Reminds you it was Originally a Penal Colony!
I recently picked up a low k 'Minty' 2003 KTM 525exc & it's a Blast! It has 'Old School' Screw type Valve adjustment! No Shims👍 + 6 speed gearbox & it Rips! I had a KLR650 Tengai back in the day, Not Bad! & still got an old XR600 Tank, but it's Kick Start only! I sold a CRF450x to get the KTM525 & it fills the Void Between High Maintenance MXer & Heavy & Slow Dual Sport! I'd recommend having a go on one! The new KTM500 are meant to be Highly Reliable also but there a bit over my Bike Budget! It took me a Long time to Trust the KTM Brand, but I think they have their Sh*t together now! -Cheers🍺👍
I just set up my klr as a street bike because it handles amazing and it’s just such a comfortable ride. Street tires and an exhaust went a long way.
@@bpundt1094 yeah that’s what I ended up doing with mine for a while before I sold it. Was super comfortable but I wanted something a bit lighter to go hoon and carve twisties on. I think it was once of those “grass is greener” kinda deals.
In many cases it came down to availability. With the supply chain issues, people’s first choice may not have been the KLR, but it was generally available
I had the opposite problem. I wanted a KLR650, but only a DRZ400 was available.
This is exactly why I ended up with a new KLR, I wanted a DR650 but couldn't find a new one anywhere within 300-400 miles of me. As long as my doohickey doesn't implode, I'll be enjoying this bike for many years to come.
Sane wanted the Tenere ended up with KLR buying the Tenere next week might actually give away the KLR
I absolutely love my KLR650. My first dual sport was an 02 KLR650 and I thought it was awesome. At the time I had a 2017 victory octane, 2012 triumph thunderbird, and 2004 zzr600. I never really thought dual sport riding would be for me but my buddy convinced me to buy a KLR. I fell in love with it. I since have owned a wr250r and done several trips on that bike but since the KLR has come back have really wanted one. I recently purchased a 2023 and absolutely love the bike. I agree I think people expect something like the ktm 890 from the KLR so they sell because it’s not a power house. For me the KLR is everything I really want out of a bike.
You're clearly an intelligent person and intelligent rider. Because you are not trying to keep up with your buddies, you're trying to own a practical motorcycle that is actually useful. I personally hate single cylinder engines, but I absolutely LOVE the KLR. I'm torn, because I love the styling, it's my favorite bike, I think it has always been the best looking dual sport motorcycle (Enduro). There is no such thing as an adventure bike. It's called an "Enduro." They have always been called Enduros, I'm not sure why someone named them adventure bikes. Lol. In my mind, if they just changed the KLR to a parallel twin engine, it would be my dream bike! Still, I might buy a KLR650 just because I feel nervous driving my other bikes on gravel roads, and I'm always nervous I'm going to scratch them, and it's almost pointless owning something that you are nervous driving.
I bought mine, knowing that I wanted a KLR. Grabbed it at the end of 2021. I have put over 12000ks on it so far and have no intention to sell it. I ride it at least 5 days a week, mostly to work. Do I miss my previous bike? yes. I still think the KLR 650 is the best vehicle purchase I have ever made.
Great video, and I think you're right about the reasons why. I am still loving mine, and will not be selling!
It's not a flex to own a KLR. A lot of people tie their identity to a bike, and this bike doesn't cut it for them. If they just upgrade to the Tenere/690, they will have better adventures, people will respect them.
I'm seeing people in the comments say that the KLR650 is not capable off-road. I Strongly disagree. For a lot of us, this bike does what it needs to do and more.
This is a reason I didn't think of and you're right
The bike is plenty capable off road as there are many videos of the bike,in the hands of a skilled rider, going up and down and over and through just about everything you can think of.the problem isn't with the bike, it's with the rider.the klr will do anything you have the balls to do off road.the only limiting factor is the rider.
I’m enjoying my 23’ klr. I commute to work with it and play on the weekends. I’d like something more suitable for interstate traveling eventually but would like to keep the klr just because it’s so simple and should last years and years.
Not selling my tan beauty ever!!
My take is ............. the KLR 650 is a natural first bike purchase, because of it's price. BUT, a lot of first time bikers don't like biking as much as they thought they would, hence quickly sell them.
Sold my '14 KLR because I moved to Europe (originally from the US), but yeah, it's not a particularly exciting bike; it is, however, bulletproof and easy to work on. Makes a great first bike.
What I love about my KLR compared to my other bike a 2014 R1200RT is that it does what its supposed to do and does it well. That is its an in expensive, easy and comfortable to ride, it can be ridden on major highways, canyon roads, city and dirt roads and its at least for me dependable. My road bike is just that, a great road bike but I needed something else and that's why the KLR and it was a good choice for me. I think a lot of riders are looking more at smaller lighter rides because they still want a good price, low weight and still can pack them up for travel to the back country and remote areas and single track too and they can be fairly comfortable and dependable. The trade off is though over all comfort and highway comfort. I too miss my DRZ400 and might get another some day. I just won't use it as much as my other 2 rides so for now I'm keeping what I have. Good question. Like your channel
Cheers, sounds like the KLR perfectly suits you
Have a 2000 KLR650 I purchased new and a 2010 R1200RT, we must think alike.
Just picked up a 2014 klr for an awesome price. Needs a few things but she’s almost ready to ride. I look forward to the new adventures. Good video. Ride safe.
Enjoy mate, I'd say they are a better allrounder than the newer model
I find KLR's exciting, so much so, I own 3. (2) '22 Adventures and (1) '23 "S". My son rides one of the Adventures. I have 13,600 miles in 8 months riding my Adventure and 1600 in 2 months on the "S". I'm retired so I have alot of time.
What's not to like? Inexpensive and inexpensive to maintain. We do alot of our maintenance. Powerful and fast enough for me. Son and I just replaced sprockets and chain on my Adventure (due to chain neglect) and we are replacing a fuel pump on his Adventure. Pump is $100 from 3D Cycle Parts, Jackson, Ms.
I traded a '21 HD Road King for the 2 Adventures and have no regrets about it. Our KLR's are keepers.
Great job with your channel sir. Keep up the good work. Stay safe!
Thanks mate. 3 KLRs, you might own the most for one family
I picked up one of those KLRs for sale recently. The ride home was 180+ miles. After viewing so many reviews I was expecting a much slower bike. Full disclosure, I have zero experience riding Adventure and Dual Sport bikes. However, I have much riding Sport Bikes and a 2008 Concours. That being the case, I know speed and acceleration well. Maybe it was my low expectations, but I was pleasantly surprised by the acceleration of my KLR going from 60 to 85 fast enough to leave the car in the dust that was trying to get between me and my wife in front of me on the way home from purchasing the bike.
I dare you to hold that motor at 85 miles an hour for an hour or better. That's the weakest part of that bike is the motor
@@thomasreyes2857 Eighty five mph for an hour plus is sure to get me cited for speeding. It doesn't seem like a smart thing to do. However, I will have the bike for a few years so I'm sure to notice some things if/when they start happening.
If you love motorcycles your always looking to upgrade. I bought my new 2015 KLR in 2017 with 0 km. I was 55 years old at the time. I have had trail bikes as kid and then about 4 diffrent road bikes. The KLR is the motorcycle that I've put the most Km on. Might buy another motorcycle but I dont think I will ever sell my KLR.
My dad just turned 56 and I am mentoring him on the exact same journey so that I have someone to teach and ride with. Looking at a new '23 base KLR tomorrow!
@Christopher T I sure hope he pulls the trigger on that. You will make lots of long lasting memories together.
I bought one new in 18’. I knew what I was getting into. Currently have 23k miles on it and love it.
Thought about getting a third gen but mines paid for and keeps goin.
Nice mate, ride on 👊
Gracias por subir este tipo de videos. Si Dios quiere me voy a comprar una (sería mi primer moto 0km.) y los videos que veo en mi país son todos de publicidad. Pero con este me sirvió para saber lo que es realmente la moto de manera crítica. Y justamente estoy buscando eso bajo mantenimiento y sencillez.
Nailed it. Seeing a lot of what you summarized happening in Canada. Recreational toys are abundant on the used market.
For sure, great time to buy toys
I purchased my KLR in SEP 22. I am enjoying it more and more. It just does what it needs to do. I ride back country twisty, roads, and Forest Service roads. Even if I do purchase a more powerful bike, I am keeping the KLR.
I agree with all your points. If I could afford to upgrade I would. But thats not happening anytime soon.
Although I have the dreaded fuel pump issue on mine, which is frustrating but hopefully getting that sorted out.
That sucks, hopefully it gets sorted
How many miles were you at when it started acting up?
@@leroyjenkins4123 180 miles.
@@RiseRyder that's disconcerting to hear. Thanks and good luck.
I think you nailed it again Curtis.
I got my 890 because I couldn’t get the T-7.
My 2018 KLR has sat for years with less than 90 miles on it. Once I had the Pan Am, it was just too easy to put those miles on the more capable bike. Capable when it ran, that is.
The 890 still does those higher speed 500 miles rides and gets me off road. I don’t think ai can go back to the old KLR days. Tim from 40 Times Around didn’t have his KLR long before he upgraded. If I could just ride two lane roads, fire trails and light off road, it would be great, a bit tall for me, but great.
I have the KLX 300 for that though.
Cheers mate. When I get 2 bikes, will definitely get something like you've got
@@onthebackwheel I think that as enthusiast we aren’t going to find the unicorn bike. If I were strictly a dirt rider it’d be easy for me, one of the 350cc or 500cc Husky/KTM, Beta would be all I needed, with a larger thank. Done, go have fun.
It’s those long road miles and still have fun in the dirt that throw a wrench into the mix. Wanna ride two-up, even bigger wrench.
I’m honestly thinking a Jeep with a single bike carrier off the rear rack to throw the KLX 300 on might be a great option for me. 😉
@@pinkiewerewolf mate you nailed it. Ultimately you need to compromise or have multiple bikes
I think a lot of people are thinking they're getting an inexpensive GS1200 Adventure and it just isn't that kind of bike. It's just not the same performance. I love mine. I wouldn't mind fuel injection, more power, and better suspension but i have no plans to sell mine any time soon. My second generation 2013 KLR is easy to maintain, reliable, and sturdy.
Sturdy is a good term for them!
The bike simple needs more Power, there I said it. It's not that I need a faster top speed, I just want more in the middle. But Man, this thing (22 Traveler) goes awesome on dirt roads.
I bought a 2022 Honda Xr650L in the middle of the pandemic. It only makes 42 horsepower and 47 foot pounds of torque at the crank. Its not powerful at all and its heavy. But in America it only retails for $7,000. I'm having a blast with it. I rode 4,700 miles last summer and it never let me down yet. $99 a month for a brand new bike and insurance is $300 for the whole year. I'm glad the still make the Xr650l, Klr650, and Dr650 because anyone can afford one.
The xr is a great all-rounder, shame they don't update them for other markets
With GEICO I had motorcycle insurance for a year for $100. But that was in Oregon
In my area (USA) there are many new KLR's available. The curious thing for me is that they offered a variety of colors in the US, which is strange because other more exciting models only have one color available. I agree, there are other more desirable models, but people are buying these because they're available now.
When I was looking at dual sport, I heard good things about the klr but I couldn't get into the look of it. I found a real nice condition 98 xr650 and went with that instead. It's been a great bike even though it hasn't changed in 30 years. They all have their pros and cons I suppose.
Xr650s are good bikes, would love to own one
The KLR is the equivalent to a Jeep cj7, no weird computers, no crazy sensor. It’s not the comfort it the tool to get you there!!!
I had to google the cj7. Looks like a beast
That’s what I said all the time, a CJ7 on 2 wheels.
Good video and good points. I had a Gen1 and loved it. I'm surprised they didn't fix the doohickey in this Gen3 version. That was a missed opportunity.
It really was
They did fix the doohickey.and the frame.and the swing arm.and the brakes.and the carburetor.and a lot of stuff besides just adding fuel injection.and they didn't raise the price.any company that completely redesigns their bike and sells it for the same price has my support.
It’s not like this is some new model of bike that was going to revolutionize adv riding. As you said, the KLR has been around virtually unchanged for 35 years and it’s possibly the most polarizing motorcycle ever produced. It has a rabid, diehard fan base and pretty much everyone else thinks they’re trash with very few people in between. If you want a pack mule that you can point in any direction and go with full confidence that it will get you there eventually, buy a KLR. If you want a quarter horse, buy a T7 or an Africa Twin or almost any other dual sport. And if you want something that will withstand the rigors of even the busiest Starbucks parking lots, buy a R1250 GS 😂
Haha that last line cracked me up 🤣
Well said and accurate demographic of ADV riders. KLR is a de tuned, for a reason tank of a bike. Still in the top 3 round the world bikes out there, after all these years.
It's not "ready to race" but "ready to get you there"
I bought one and love it for the kind of riding I’m doing these days, such as back roads, or just riding thru the pasture.
As far as it being boring, lm 62 now and pretty boring myself, so me and it will just suffer thru boring together 😂
Haha nothing wrong with that mate
Personally I'm looking at buying one as my first bike. Mostly because of cost and then I can find out what I really love doing on a motorcycle and can get a bike geared towards that
Not a bad way of going about it
I’m 6’4’ and just retired at 61 and my 2022 KLR fits me perfectly - moved wind screen to extended position - if it’s a nice day I’m on the KLR.
Nice mate. A windscreen riser might make it even better
Great vid. Your arguments sound spot on. Wish we could get the KLR here in Germany!
I think a lot of people in Europe feel the same way!
Bought my first klr in '97. A used '94. It felt so slow, I thought there was something wrong with it. Probably because I also owned a cbr600. Twenty six years later, I still own a klr, my fourth. As you said, they're cheap. Lots of people bought lots of stuff they didn't need or could really afford during the Pandemic. Lots of atv's and side by sides in the classifieds right now.
Hehe sounds like me after I ride on a different bike for a while. Lots of dirt bikes popping up too, trying to resist buying one
The thing with the KLR is that it is an economical touring bike. It has all the performance needed to travel to most places in Australia reliably and with reasonable comfort. When you could still buy a new DR650, it was a better potential adventure bike as it was a lot lighter with more power, suspension travel and ground clearance. The issue was you needed to throw a lot of money at a DR to get it to the same point of tour ability that the KLR came off the showroom floor with. I say that as a person who owned a well set up DR. Now the DR and the 660 Tenere are no more, there really is no direct competition for the KLR. I have done a few multi week rides with mates on their KLRs and I have to say I was impressed by their competence. At the moment the only bike at a similar price point is the Royal Enfield Himalaya and that is a fair bit less powerful than the KLR. So if you are looking for a reliable, competent, good value all roads tourer, the KLR is hard to go past, if high performance isn’t a criteria for you. You will pay a lot more for 700 Teneres, the Transalp, the VStrom 800 et al.
Hey, what do you mean the DR is no more? I'm looking for a first-bike capable of cross-country travel.
650 Suzuki is much smoother and comfortable tourer than KLR.
@@BabylonHits7 It’s no longer sold in Australia. I believe it is still sold in the USA.
@@TURKOGLUTURK34 Having owned a DR, I agree it was comfortable and smooth once you spent money setting it up for touring. Straight off the showroom floor it wasn’t though. I fitted a Seat Concepts seat, an after market screen, bar risers, Pivot Pegz, a Safari tank, and a rack and pannier frames to set mine up. In that configuration I found it to be a very comfortable tourer. I rode it across Australia a couple of times and really enjoyed it.
Well said.
I been riding Harleys forever and my current 2015 Road Glide Special is 1000 lbs with riders or luggage. At 62 I don’t tour anymore and my biggest complaint was being stuck on pavement, second class suspension and weight. I could probably trade it in and come out ahead on a new KLR-650. I want something that isn’t afraid of dirt/gravel or rough roads. I don’t care about a race bike. 500 lbs would be a dream weight. Reliable and rugged a bonus. This video grabbed my attention. Might see the dealership in spring.
Sounds like it might suit to perfectly
I sold my FJR 2 years ago.... I would take it on roads I shouldn't have and got looks like what are you doing here with this bike? lol It weighed 700+ and never managed to drop it. And when I did have it on a proper road I went way too fast... I remember going down a country road one night doing 130 and the next morning thinking how stupid I am (pitch black that night along side corn fields) decided to sell it that day. I have road a number of bikes over the years... Just bought the KLR not even a week ago and have 250 miles on it.... took it Saturday on some gravel desert roads and this bike is nimble, comfortable, and very well planted. It handled the gravel at 60 mph like a champ.... and on pavement I would let go of the handle bars and zero wobble... very well balanced! My FJR wouldn't let me take my hands off the handle bars.... death wobble every time. The 3rd gen KLR has and extended rear swing arm and front raked out another 2 degrees from previous models and Led headlight is amazing. But I think the really big win is the fuel injection.... I ran 1st 80 miles on regular fuel then I topped it off and added a couple ounces of Lucas upper cylinder fuel treatment. I noticed a difference so I think it will help with break in. I use it in all my vehicles! My Lexus ES350 and Toyota Tundra..... great stuff!
I don't forsee selling this bike ever. I may buy other bikes but I will at least keep this around for a buddy to ride at very minimal.... I went with the base model with ABS - oh yeah ABS works great, Last Saturday again I came into a hard turn that I miss calculated approached at around 50mph and the antilock allowed me to cut into the gravel berm without losing it. That turn would have been a lot more sketchy, I might had to lay it down to avoid going through a fence... anyway I was really surprised.
@@lanceguinn9807sounds like a maintenance issue. My fjr has cruise control and never gets a speed wobble or any other kind and my hands are off quite often. I've had it 135+ mph. I have the tw200 for off road and back road adventures and it's a blast. It's less than 300 pounds and easy to put on a hitch carrier on my van for camping and traveling. Love the looks of the camo klr but can't justify the weight and lack of power on them. I'll end up with a drz400 eventually for a lightweight but fairly quick true dual sport that can still go on a hitch carrier.
Seconding. "KLR is about taking you on an adventure rather than being the adventure." sums it up perfectly. When i was young I wanted to go fast had bikes like monsters and FZ6 Now that I'm older I want to go far...and by far I mean interesting and out of the way places. And a legitimate part of going far is being able to fix thing yourself when your off road, out of signal and alone
I bought a KLR650 S couple of months ago. My twenty-eighth motorcycle and my third KLR. I love riding this bike. Not as fast as my sport bikes and not a cruiser. But wow! What a great bike to have fun on. One thing the KLR has going is the size of the gas tank. And I been getting around 54mpg. I will be putting some serious miles on it this Summer.
Nice mate, enjoying mine too. I'm only one my 2nd KLR, need to do some catching up!
Hey Jerry, the “S” caught my attention and your experience - wow. KLR it is, though, I was leaning to the DR; this vid was helpful. I am trying to decide to go bigger bike on my toes, or flat footed on the S. I am 5’8. The suspension travel is a non-issue; I’m light and not pounding the bike - 50/50 tar/dirt. Thoughts?
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I am 5’ 9” and not getting any younger. Me personally, I would go with the KLR. Impressive how maneuverable this bike is. I was surprised that you don’t notice the weight. Well balanced. The larger gas tank is a big plus. That said, the one you feel the most comfortable riding is the one I would recommend.
Bought my 2022 when they came out and still love mine! Been on two long trips and about to head out on the third. I have 9,600 miles in it and it still runs great. I totally agree with your statement: its about getting you to the adventure not the adventure itself!
100%. Enjoy mate!
Hey do you have issues on the highway? I love the bike I’m just worried about the interstate use
@@ryankerr7075 I try to avoid the interstate, but I have driven on it. 70-75 mph no problem
@@ryankerr7075 I've been on three 2000 + mile trips and haven't had any trouble at highway speeds. I try to avoid the interstate, but have ridden on them. 70-75 no problem
it is an adventure i love ridding that bike
Great video, fantastic footage. Thank you
Thanks mate, I rustled up some older footage for it
I love mine, it’s a super fun bike and I wouldn’t give it up for anything. It’s great as a do-all kinda bike and for new riders would be a great entry into the game. I commute with mine and have taken it on long 2.5 hr hauls too.
I think general bike availability being a big driver in KLR sales. My bike (drz400e) got stolen during covid. I was not left with many options and was basically left with the KLR or Himalayan. Although I never ended up picking the KLR it's a bike I always envisioned owning at some time having ridden my fathers a few times and always enjoying it.
i was at a adv rally the had a himalya took it for a ride it was a pile i was glad to get back on my transalp
@@galenamall2061 Everyone has preferences. Most Adv bikes out there are pretty versatile and great for all rounders. Enjoy the Translappper
To me the KLR is exactly what I was lookin for ! A cheap reliable bike that I can commute on everyday and I won’t freak out if I get caught out in the rain like on my Roadglide Limited! 😮. 😂
I'd ditch the Road Glide if I were you! 🤮
I was extremely close on getting a 2023 KLR to replace my Himalayan. The thing is I went with a DR650. I loved the look of the new KLR and I loved that it was FI instead of Carb, but the problem is I wanted an off-roader that I could cross the country on that was fairly light. The DR just fit the bill better for my uses. I wasn’t keeping up with my dirt bike friends on it. My DR I can. It’s lighter and as cheap. More narrow too.
Again I loved the new KLR, I liked the factory bags too. But I already had two bikes to do long distance road work on. Shame honestly. I love both.
If you've got long distance bikes already, you definitely made the right choice
I bought a KLR second hand last year as my first bike ever. I learned to ride on it and it’s taken me on a lot of adventures.
But it’s also been kind of gateway drug and I’m strongly considering selling the KLR and getting something more… exciting. Cheers!
I had a KLR 650 for a couple of years then upgraded to a KTM 1290. I now resemble a loon as the smile does not leave me.
@@stitchjones7134 funny thing, that is exactly the bike on my “short list.” Also looking at the Tuareg, but I am tall ~193cm.
KLR to 1290, hold on!
@@onthebackwheel lol. Yeah that’s a huge jump up in power. And for only the second year on a bike I wouldn’t recommend it. Maybe jump to a KTM790/890. Still a big jump in power but with similar weight/size. Growing in skill and competency should be done in smaller bites not giant leaps.
@@onthebackwheel yeah, twas a bit like that at first :D After trailbikes, Harley's and the KLR I felt like I was attached to a rocket. I leave the MTC on most days.
In my area here in East TN. People are getting rid of them because of the KLX300 or Honda crf300l is out now. Lets face it, those are waaay lighter, better offroad dual sport bikes. If your actually going off road. Theres no comparison. The klx300 while not perfect will do 75 mph easy on highway.
The KLR650 used was just way easier to find.
I wanted a T7, got a '22 Adventure. Made the right choice. Use it for what many others in the comments use theirs for. Backwoods adventuring/tooling around. For me, it's a tool to get to where I want to go fish or spend the day away from the disease of modern living and it does it very, very well.
Sounds perfect for you
I think you're pretty much on. I bought mine a few months ago and love it, but I'm not really a tire roaster at heart. I just like the wind through where my hair used to be. :)
That's it, if you don't to go nuts, she's a good thing
The average adventure ride consists of a few days of mixed paved/unpaved roads, where you're never really that far from a gas station or Walmart, your T7 or DesertX is a toy for your Dakar cosplay. When you're hand-pumping fuel and living off horse jerky in Mongolia, your KLR is a tool for survival. I'm not throwing any shade, I'm definitely the first type of rider.
'A toy for your Dakar cosplay', I like that one
I have a GEN 2 from new, And have put all the right gear on it to make it last in the bush, Ive had some great times on it , Someone mentioned no bragging rights when you own one of these bikes and im sure a T7 would make people listen more , The extra money that one would cost makes me hesitate, and at the end of the day it would still get me to places where there are KLR riders getting around with a lot more money in their pockets.
Exactly, it's good value for money and takes you the same places
AMEN BROTHER!!!
Having owned a Suzuki DR 650 for seven years, I recently tried my friend’s KLR. I’m still team DR all day. I found the KLR’s engine to be lethargic despite being the same cc as my Zuki, and the handling of the Kawi seemed nervous and did not inspire confidence. The DR corners amazingly well in comparison, even with aggressive knobby tires. Just my opinion, of course.
Interesting to hear
I had the same experience going from a 07 DR to a 08 KLR. KLR is certainly more substantial feeling with more wind protection but the DR was just dramatically peppier and more fun to ride. To be fair a stock KLR has 24lbs more fuel in its larger stock tank
@@gtemnykh that’s true… but I should have mentioned that my DR also had the big Acerbis fuel tank, 25 litres capacity. I would say that it was a pretty fair comparison, with the one exception being the KLR was 6 years newer than my DR.
100% agree. The DR makes me smile. The KLR makes me bored and frustrated. YMMV, of course.
KLR IMO is the better long range adventure tourer. No pretty or exiting- never was. DR better off roader by most accounts.
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Just bought the 2023.
It doesn’t do anything great but it does EVERYTHING extremely well. It’s a tank…..
Buying a full exhaust when available with an upmap to improve throttle response.
Enjoy mate!
I like the description "stuck in Desert Storm." Haha. I like it esp with the tan colors.
Can't beat the Taliban Tan
I see many KLRs for sale. I see last year's model going for a big discount. I didn't buy one even at the discounts that are available. It's not the bike for me. They are too tall for a lot of riders, like me. They are definitely too heavy. Don't handle well on a narrow trail, deep sand or mud. Not the greatest highway bike. Yes, there is a group of people that can handle the bulkiness of the bike or those that don't ride deep forest trails that really like the bike. Then there are the people that romanticized adventure bike riding, and like a lot of things in their life (boats, cars, gardening) they just became bored of it. Thus good buys on the KLRs.
As a DR650 owner, I'll take a swing at your question.
They're selling it because it's too heavy for the power it makes and not as capable off road as they expected.
Don't get me wrong. I'd probably have one if I rode mostly pavement back roads, but I prefer dirt.
Bingo
I had a DR650 and a couple years later replaced it with a KLR. I thought it was going to basically be the same bike but with everything i wished the DR had. I was wrong. With the bigger tank, better wind protection, and marginally better seat, the power-to-weight ratio was night and day different, and not "good" different. My biggest complaint for both bikes was gearing. For true dual sport and adventure riding, you need a first gear low enough so you can literally walk the bike through streams and over logs, without riding/ slipping the clutch. And you need a top gear that you can hit modern freeway speeds without practically redlining the RPMs, by either spreading out the 5 speeds more or adding a 6th, whatever they wanna do.
Mate you're preaching to the choir. 6 speeds or larger spacing please
Awesome video as always mate.
Thanks mate. Have to catch up for a ride one of these days
@@onthebackwheel defo mate, I still wanna head out back of neurum Creek and do a bit if exploring out there. Possibly camp the night at neurum aswell
I started riding 2 years ago and my 2017 KLR is my first bike. Now I'm selling it because I realized I'm not really enjoying doing long trips on the asphalt but I love hard technical terrain. I'm currently looking for something light and more offroad oriented.
Nothing wrong with that. Ideal world is road bike, adventure bike and proper dirt bike I think
@@onthebackwheel or a Tuareg
@@scorchcycles if I had one choice, that would be it atm. Ideal world Tuono, Tuareg and dirt bike
Get yourself a ktm 500 exc-f….light weight, plenty of power, and road worthy. And a great woods bike
@@louisdriscoll2580 I'm thinking smaller again, something like the Beta 390
KLR is on the short list of bikes I would like. It would be perfect for the roads in south America. Unfortunately I live in Argentina and a KLR costs about $18,000 here. I could get a Himalayan for about $6,000 but it isn't any better than my Falcon 400. For now I'll stick with the old Falcon.
18000 is a LOT
What's a 400 Falcon!? is that a South American built XR400? You guys get some nice XR250 type bikes but with Double OHC & Electric Start that I haven't seen in North America or Asia Pacific regions! I think you locally build those bikes somewhere in South America!? I've watched some cool Air Cooled MX bikes that are Raced down those parts! - Cheers🍺👍🇦🇺
@@purebloodheretic4682 Falcon 400 is a Honda NX4 Falcon. An Adv bike made in Brazil until 2014. It uses the motor from a XR400 and a street chassis with about 7" suspension travel and 21" front and 17" rear wheels.
fair assessment of the KLR - I would still own another one precisely for the reasons you mentioned!
You're not alone either!
I sold my Versys 650LT (in 2017) after very few miles for some of the same reasons. After riding larger sport tourers for 20 odd years I thought I'd trade horsepower for light weight. What I got was boredom and regret.
Man, I'm not selling my 2022 KLR650, it's a hoot to ride !
Wont be selling mine anytime soon.
clip towards the end in everglades. wow i'm going there next week and i recognize the spot
Which time was it at?
I just put a deposit on a brand new 2023 klr Adventure here in NY 2 hrs ago! Cant wait to pick it up this week! I feel like your getting so much bike for the price!! AND…. Kawasaki had $1000 off the msrp….. thx for the video
Bargain!
I had thought that for that money i could justify its flaws but as they say you get what you pay for, if it had some power you might consider fixing up the rest and making peace with it, but not for me so i sold it at 700km for about $800 loss and bought a KTM 890
the 890 definitely puts a smile on your face and is most certainly not boring - I've had mine for almost 2 years now and wouldn't swop it for any other bike - plenty power, manageable weight and amazing suspension.
I hear way to many reported reliability issues with KTM to want to trust one. And for the money it should be rock solid reliability.
Expensive radiator 😢
Burning engine oil at RPM 5K
Too soft suspension
The forks are very soft
Put Progressive springs in it, get a quality radiator guard. I’ve had a 2003 KLR from new, 88,000 miles, still going strong. Sounds like improper break in, lack of maintenance, or an anomalous piston/ring problem causing oil burning. I’m a nut for maintenance, which has helped mine survive for 20+ years.
I can see your point and yes . The liking of the klr has come and gone a couple of times since I got mine in 2012 . I do not know if you have heard of navythomas8 or NT8 . I have his Goat . It is a great bike but it is there to take on an adventure. Not be the adventure. It is just a good old 09 .
Nailed it mate. Haven't heard of them, I'll check them out
That good ole red dirt is super slick like that, just a bit wet.
It'll get ya
@@onthebackwheel just started watching your videos, mew subscriber👍👍. Parts of Texas have that dirt, and NC especially. My grandpa loved hunting, fishing, hiking etc. And he loved to talk about that carolina red clay. He'd go on about how slick it was, how it would stick to everything, and stain. Man, I miss him. I wish I could seek his advice today.
Beautiful machines but extremely heavy in the woods almost like riding a street bike in the woods 💯💯
Hehe yep, they can be a handful
Heavy??? You must have never dropped a Harley Electra glide.
So don't buy it. It's a fun bike to ride and it's affordable. Why don't we just make every bike real exciting and run the cost up to $30,000 so that no one can afford one. I don't see anyone selling their KLR.
What phone mount are you using on your accessory bar? I've spent the winter adding a tach and power outlet, finding the right mount is the last piece! Great video by the way
Cheers mate. I'm using Quadlock. I did an install vid on it if you want a more detailed look. Yet to do a review, but it's solid
2022 KLR 650 was my first bike. It was great for living in the open mountains of Arizona. Moved to Texas and 97% of Texas is privately owned aka no where fun off road to ride. So traded her in and got a 2023 Z900. Love the new bike just wish I could have afforded to keep them both. Miss the KLR sometimes
Z900, bloody nice bike
This is basically what I'm facing living in central Maryland, hence me selling my CRF250L Rally in exchange for a Versys 650 - if I lived somewhere like AZ, NM, Australia, or went back to living in Africa, a KLR would be awesome probably
I love my 22 KLR. If you know anything about what you like, why would you buy one you know you won't appreciate? Not selling mine!
What I'd like to see is a KLR 1000, while only being no more than 40lbs heavier or less, and no more than $2k more pricey.
I'd still take a KLR of any vintage though. It's more bike than I'd likely ever need for what I do.
I recently test rode a 2023 KLR at a Kawasaki demo event, and it was the first ever KLR that I had ridden. I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised and it is a bike that I would definitely purchase. My only complaint is the very sensitive throttle, but there is a simple mod that will fix that. I don't want or need any electronic gadgets, just a plain and simple motorcycle. The power is more than adequate for my riding style which is to stay off of highways and spend more time on two lane and dirt roads. I am seriously considering the non-ABS base model.
Sounds like it could be a great fit for you
Was that Christmas music in the background? Too early to be playing that mate. LOL I was one of the many that wanted a T-7 and because they weren't available I bought a KLR650(2022 adventure). Yes, they are boring and way under powered. But they are an all around average bike that will do most anything at a slower pace. With upgraded tires and a few extras they are decent bikes. For me, Having a fast sport tourer(2021 FJR 1300) and a trail bike (2023 Yamaha XT250) the KLR still takes care of my on road-off road adventure needs. I may eventually sell the KLR, but for the time being it is part of my crib of bikes and will remain so for the foreseeable future. But you are correct about the feeling of power. It is nice and for me that's the only real downfall for the KLR650. For some, the lack of power is why they love it. I have enjoyed your videos of your KLR experience. Thank you for sharing them.
Lol yes it is some weird Christmas mix. I thought it just sounded like quiet background music 🤣
Your KLR vids are a major reason I haven't sold. I like a vehicle that is cheap, can take a harsh beating, soaks up miles, and looks apocalypse-ready. If I get a T7, it'd just be a different tool in the toolbox.
They sure can take it!
I love my 22 KLR. My first ADV and didn’t want to break the bank in case I didn’t like it. We’ll…I love getting lost on it. I will never jump it or do wheelies so it’s perfect for me. Would be nice to have a 6th gear and isn’t the best for long distance interstate riding. But I already knew that before I signed the papers. I love the back roads and fire trails when I’m camping. This thing is awesome.
Sounds perfect for you mate
I LOVE my 2016 KLR.. it’s like driving a tractor..not afraid to take it in the brush.. not scared of dropping it… takes me from adventure to adventure.. just bought a Pan America this year.. but when I’m heading to the brush it will be my trusty KLR
Good combo
The used 2023 KLR 650 I bought recently had only 1650 miles on it. The best I could tell why the previous owner sold it was it's extreme engine braking problem. Once I discovered how to disconnect the clutch sensor, the problem went away. Now, I love the bike. It's a major upgrade from the 2013 and 2017 KLR's I previously owned.
Nice mate, I found the new model to be an improvement too
Lies, very few are selling their klrs
I see used ones for sale all the time
The KLR are is a good entry-level bike I agree with your assessment. There are better options out there now. Better performers.
Love mine, will sell it eventually when I've grown out of it, main reason is it's ability as a highway bike is lacking and cruise control would be nice. But I'm still a beginner and as a beginner bike it's fantastic.
you can just 'lock' the throttle with a thick cord wrapped around the handlebar next to the grip so that the friction prevents rolling back. I've done that on my Tenere (take the cord double, hold the loop, wrap the two ends around a few times and stick them thru the loop, pull tight) and its fu@&ing brilliant when you can take the right hand off ... just make sure to losen it before you hit the trails ;-)
She's no stud on the highway that's for sure
I went from a little thumper KLX 300 to the big thumper KLR 650 after watching a few of your videos, but traded up to the Africa twin after taking a riding course with Hawthorne PD (Redondo PD have the AT in their fleet) #RideToLive Everything you said is 100% true and correct. Not as much power, but comfortable and solid. Somebody described the seat on the Kawasaki as a "lounge chair" that may be an exaggeration, but it is actually more comfortable than the Honda stock seat on the AT. And yeah… C0v!d, or the response to it, was a disaster. Let's not get fooled again 🤡💉☠️☠️☠️
The Africa twin seems to be a popular upgrade from the KLR
I don't think those that are disatified fully did their homework or understand specs. The problem solving on this bike is so easy and makes it a breeze to maintain and ride. While it doesnt have big horse power, between your videos and others i see that it gets the grunt work done and does it well. I have ummed and ahhhed but I have come to realise the only reason I would change bikes is due to weight. That's all. Other than that I love my beast, we get up some narly stuff and have a blast. Even hitting an emu didn't stop mine. Still ride it home without an issue.
did you take that Emu home?
@@kloppskalli no, but it was lucky he got up quicker and took off. I wasn't impressed at all.
You nailed it. Less weight would be appreciated, no doubt the emu thinks so too!
@OnTheBackWheel haha I'm sure it would agree yes.
Great discussion, totally on point. Too bad about the KLR. I like the design - the front end with good wind protection and the sturdy frame in the rear is built to easily hold luggage. The fact that they updated to fuel injection should have required them to make a jump in performance. This is a let down. Especially if it's not a particularly light bike. I would at least have changed something simple like bumping up the cc's, like a KLR750 big bore cylinder. Wow, that would be something to be excited about.
Would love an updated, lighter motor with a 6 speed, but it just ain't going to happen unfortunately. Hell, the Ninja 400 motor is PERFECT for an ADV bike
@@onthebackwheel That would be super cool.. 6 speed on the highway is nice. Ninja 400!?? Really? My cousin just got a Ninja 400, it's his first bike, he's having a lot of fun on it.
Yeah for sure. Roughly 50hp, light, reliable
@@onthebackwheel Nice man.
You got it right,I bought a 2022 knowing what I was getting I’m happy with my purchase.
I’m very nostalgic I am blessed to just be able to keep my motorcycles they represent time. In my life and a tool that can be used. The KLR gives the opportunity to just slow down to make gradual improvements, learn how to work on a motorcycle and also be part of a wider community. And it doesn’t take a lot of money out of your pocket. The great thing Of all the motorcycles I own when I walk out to my garage the one that I absolutely know is going to start is what I referred to as the lawnmower motorcycles!
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