AV-8B Plus In War Thunder : A Basic Review
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Taking a look at the version of the Harrier II thats available in the Italian tech tree. I discuss its weapon systems, its flight performance, combat tactics, and the historical context for the jet, followed by some final thoughts and conclusions. This really is a unique vehicle with an atypical playstyle in the current top-tier meta.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Systems & Weapons
02:14 Flight Performance
04:16 Combat Tactics
06:35 Historical Context
08:19 Miscellaneous
09:06 Conclusions 
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Dont forget that in GRB, VTOLs can land at heli bases to repair and resupply, then they respawn in air moving
i do that with both av8a and harrier gr3, it's really effective especially if you stay low
I do that with the Yak-38, but it's not as effective of a plane as the harriers. I hope that it gets downtiered to 9.0 for ground battles once they split the ground and air BRs. It's not a very good plane, but for air battles there's a legitimate complaint about flareless planes facing R-60's. I think that complaint is strong for air battles but could be set aside for ground battles.
@@GeneralArmchair yeah in ground it isn't as bigger of a problem I feel because you don't necessarily meet them all the time
Flying with 10 Paveways and literally deleting entire teams is probably the most fun I had with CAS. Maybe together with Flying the AMX. Just wait till this thing Gets Amraams
If the gr7 etc gets brimstone that thing will be a fuckin killer.
It's a bit of a personal preference but i prefered the old structure of these reviews. Just giving my feedback.
The content is still as clear, straightforward and useful, so keep up the good work, you're the best WT CC out there.
Edit: typos
TBD if its a permanent change or not. This, and another video coming up soon, have the chapters re-arranged and my plan is to check them after a month or so and see if/how it impacted the retention stats.
I also prefer the history of the aircraft first but that might just be because I'm used to it.
@@dankmemewalker7738 Honestly I do too - I think it "flows" better having it at the start - but I'll check back in a month to see what impact it had to re-arrange it.
@TimsVariety I would agree, it feels more natural to have the real world history, then its depiction in War Thunder, as this also lets you preface historical inaccuracies in the WT model with the real world history.
I think I also prefer the old structure too, feels weird to have the historical context not being first.
I've got a hunch the Av-8B might come for the USA next patch which is why they've been holding it back.
Since 4th gens like an F-18 Hornet were sadly denied for next patch.
It does make sense since in their roadmap they mentioned ARAAM’s for the next update, and like how the Frogfoot was used for testing the R73, the Harriers prolly would be a good place to test the AMRAAM
@@bubblesofthecoast6393they won’t ’test’ it though, they have said loads of times that when they add Fox-3s like the AMRAAM, they will add them to every country
@@bappojappo-_-3986 That can still be the case though
They could add Fox-3's to each nation but first test them on their less cutting edge airframes.
Av-8B+, New Sea Harrier and Tornado Variant, F-4F ICE, JA-37D can all carry Aim-120's
And so can the Yak-141, JH7, J-8F carry R-77 and PL-12.
@@michaelstodovski2219 I suppose, but that will still lead to problems in balance, cus the plane such as Yak-141 and J8 are better in flight performance than the others and Israel doesn’t really have an option
Israel would likely get AMRAAM with the Barak II (F-16D), since that isn’t as competitive an airframe as the Netz (F-16A) and Baz (F-15A).
always love watching your wt videos even if I haven't played the game in years.
Dont know if anybody else has brought it up, but I quite like the new bold black outline around the plane in the thumbnail Tim!
A few people mentioned it. I got some advice to make the aircraft in the thumbnails more "visually distinct from the background" so, rather than big red clickbait arrows, I decided on a subtle black outline.
The idea of a bunch of giant red arrows pointing towards an aircraft in the centre of the image that you can clearly see, and a big red circle around it too . . . Just so you don't miss it
@@corbenpearson5544 nonono, the BIG RED ARROWS need to point at totally random stuff on the plane ... like, the air intake, a radio antenna, an IFF aerial, things like that to "hook" the person into wondering why you're trying to draw attention to that random spot. All of THAT inside the big red circle, in the center of the image. Just so you dont miss it.
Really good explanation and you even showed the cockpit which is amazing. Good job!
I love this thing so much, in air RB VTOL catches so many people off guard and in CAS its just so great with the good targetting pod, a lot of GBUs and even the mavericks to counter AA. also the harriers are just kinda cool
This really is one of those rare vehicles in WT that I still have fun even if I get a shitty match.
I'm still a long ways away from jets, these videos give me the best insight to what's in store for me when I get there! TY
I've been watching your channel for a couple months, and I have to say, you are one of the best WT tubers I've ever seen. As opposed to creators who only cover air or ground ops and vehicles, you do both, without any discretion, nor bias towards certain playstyles, unlike other youtubers. Thank you for what you do.
My target viewer audience is "the average warthunder player" so I try to be pretty generalized in how I cover the vehicles. If you're interested in more about the angle I hit my reviews from, go back on my channel a bit and find the video I posted a few months ago about "how I make my aircraft reviews".
Cheers Tim, excellent as always.
actually caught a video early. great content as always!
you are the best WT youtuber hands down!
o7 I live to serve.
Thanks, Tim!
Still wish we had this thing in the US, maybe we'll get it in March.
This thing is crazy at 11.7 in sim when its in the top of the bracket. Crazy situational awareness 4 aim-9ms and great amount of ordnance.
Yesterday my friend and I talked about this thing and I came to you and I sae you didn't make one and one day later you made one!
Its a little known fact that if a WT player concentrates and thinks about a plane hard enough, a Tim's Variety review will suddenly appear out of nowhere.
@@TimsVariety Thankyou Tim, I apperciate you🙂
This slight change in the order that info is presented is perfect! The tips and game info first would make videos a lot easier to quickly reference before trying them in game. It's a very small thing but I appreciate it!
I had made a community post about it recently, I'm re-arranging the chapters in this and another vid coming up in a couple of weeks, so I can come back to them in a month and check the retention stats. May or may not become a more permanent change. TBD.
@TimsVariety Ahhhh, ok, I completely missed that one I guess! Well personally I like the change a lot. I watch each basic review entirely at least once, but when I unlock the plane, I'll go back and skip past the history stuff to hear any tips about the vehicle again.
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As always great and informative video. I was thinking as I just unlock the Viper and unlocked the napalm bombs and was wondering how many does it take to take a base. Then I realized a great QOL improvement to put a red circle base in test flight to test out new bombs and how many you need for a base and experiment with custom load outs. Like my F5e can kill a base with the rockets and one napalm and found out only by trail and error in realistic. Just think it would be helpful to have a base in test flight to try out test runs.
Wish my Yak-141 had half of the fancy air to ground toys that this thing has.
Another great review. You have a great voice for for story telling. I don't know if it's something you would be interested but I have a feeling that your audience (or at least me) would be interested in hearing you talk about the procurement of planes from a historical narrative perspective that are not in and probably won't be added to WT. Perhaps stuff like the A400m or c130. I imagine it as a military aviation analog to Ian McCollum of forgotten weapons. Either way, great stuff as always
I've considered that, using WT footage as the video under the narration, though it would limit me to stuff in-game.
@@TimsVariety that's a good point. I think WT is modable in single player forms but I know nothing more than just that and I'd assume the models would be of varying quality
Good job Tim. U best WT video creator..
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i cant wait for harrier II for us
I like how the US at the moment doesn't even get the AV-8B Plus, the F-86D, or even an F-104 with CMs
lmfao they just added it to the usa tech tree
@@dukerex1285 Lmao I know and I'm so happy now
Have you made a video on how the RWR has a distance detection?
Like at what ranges does the RWR change the display of the aircraft around.
Yes, I mentioned it in my recent RWR guide.
@@TimsVariety ty
Italian wizard lizard plane fun facts with the almighty wizard Tim
Can't wait for the American one and for the AIM-120s on this.
Awesome content as always!
I love the effort and attention to detail you put in your reviews.
You often bring up that you test the cockpits in VR, and i assume that you are playing in Simulator battles when you do so.
Would you be interested in making some Reviews for Simulator battles? There is currently no channel that delivers quality sim-reviews (atleast that i have found)
Believe it or not ... I use the headset in regular old RB.
Yes, I know how much of a disadvantage it is...
@@TimsVariety If you can get your hands on some HOTAS gear, i highly advice you to test out a SIM Enduring Confrontation match or two! Its like a whole different game! You also get to appreciate the cockpit, radar and ballistic computers a lot more, since you will be relying on them a lot more than when you have the UI.
A tech i used to think was garbage was CCRP, but in sim its a game changer for bombing bases!
Btw, thank you for answering me! :D
@@FreddehMcTeddy I'm familiar with the game mode, and am generally a fan, its really just that my desk setup/layout doesn't allow for a HOTAS setup and the "mouse joystick" thing is simply unplayable for me.
Italian hover biscuit is fun
Hey Tim. Love the content as always. I just got the AV-8B Plus and I was curious on how you changed what display was showing when you showed the cockpit. From the RWR, Map, and Radar!
There is a keybind to cycle through the MFD modes, I dont remember the exact one off the top of my head.
@@TimsVariety Awesome. Just found it. Thanks again man! Always look forward to your videos.
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You are very kind for giving us such thourough reviews for air vehicles in War Thunder!
Are you planning on doing ground vehicles as well some day?
Thanks!
For ground vehicles, I normally do live-commented matches rather than this type of review format, but I *am* planning to do two ground vehicle reviews using my aircraft review format in the next couple of months as a test to see how they do.
Sweet! Thanks!@@TimsVariety
This is the best thing I ever saw.
I absolutely love the way this aircraft looks, I'm rlly sad, as a Japan main, that we don't get this thing 😢
The AV-8B is such a cool plane, it has Aim120s in real life wounder if it will get them when added
Interesting switch-up with the historical context last instead of first
I made a community post about it recently, I'm changing the chapter layout for a couple of upcoming vids (but not all) so I can come back after a month and see if/how it impacts the retention statistics. TBD if it becomes a permanent change long-term.
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@@TimsVariety thanks for the update, I’ll check it out
imagine chilling in your F-4S and an F/A-18 just appears on your radar
Still patiently waiting for USMC AV-8B+
You can do a video on the a4-e?
Very informative video.
Also can you do one on the MiG 27K?
I know did one on the MiG 27M like 2 years ago but the K still has some nice extra features. :)
Funny you should mention that, the Mig-27K *is* on the list for the medium-term.
@@TimsVariety Nice!
Looking forward to it! ❤️❤️
I'd appreciate a Simulator overview in these reviews
So fun fact: The internal FLIR isn't actually supposed to exist (or be a FLIR in the first place).
The AV-8B N/A has a gimbaled camera on the nose for CCRP bombing (but also can slave AGM-65) and one on top of the nose for giving the HUD a thermal viewer for night time and for giving the pilot "targets of opportunity" (little arrows pointing at hot targets the thermal camera finds).
Those two CANNOT be linked together whatsoever, and on the AV-8B+ it is very noticeable that the nose camera is infact gone to fit the radar set. The same issue is on the Harrier GR.7 (with the DMT being a FLIR), and I made a bug report on it a while ago.
IMHO this is one of those things where they tried to translate an IRL system/implementation into a game system/mechanic, and ended up doing so in a way that makes everyone unhappy in different ways.
To this day I'm confused why the US didn't get this vehicle as well. Sure the F-16C is just better at everything but it still would have been SOMETHING after the A-7s...
Maybe one day we'll see an F18 slot in there on the tree...
Even though it's a little odd do you think you could make a video on the SM.91?
... its funny you mention that ... the SM.92 is coming up very soon on my list.
(I love doing vids with some of the oddball stuff like that)
Love the vid and love the Harrier but what is up with Tim going absolutely feral in the gameplay?
I try to show a variety of different styles. ;-)
Can you do a history and game play on the AV-8B II Plus for the US? Maybe some history for VMA-231 (Ace of Spades?)
Ill get to it eventually
I personally prefer the old way with the history as the first segment, but it is still great!
I had made a community post about it recently, I'm re-arranging the chapters in this and another vid coming up in a couple of weeks, so I can come back to them in a month and check the retention stats. May or may not become a more permanent change. TBD.
@@TimsVariety Must have missed that one. Fair enough!
@@randomexcessmemories4452
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av-8b+ has aim-120s now
No reason this shouldn’t be in the U.S. tech tree already
Review for AH.MK1 pls? Just wondering which is better, rooivalk or teapache
I'll get to some of the Apaches eventually, but my own personal preference would be the AH Mk1. I didn't have a good time with the Rooivalk.
@@TimsVariety huh. How about trying it once again? Since ur upload of the rooivalk video, gaijin had made plenty of changes to the rooivalk, it's now stable on high speeds, mokopas are now much more responsive and Mistrals got a very significant buff, going from 12g pull to 16g
Watch as they announce ARH missiles next patch, giving this it's AMRAAMs and invalidating the review as usual.
This mornings patch changed the mission HUD... no warning... I've still got 4 videos in various stages of production with the now-old mission HUD .. thanks, snail ...
I'm going to go ahead and say this thing will get AMRAAMs in the next update or the one after..m
Huh, did you cut the history section before the "what we're looking at in War Thunder..."?
Edit:
Oh I see, you moved the segment to the end of the video.
looks like he moved it towards the end
I made a community post about it recently, I'm trying that for a couple upcoming vids so I can come back in a month and analyze the retention stats and see if it makes any difference.
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@@TimsVariety thanks mate.
no bvr **yet**
really wish america would get their harriers
ok but why does the gun sound like the GAU-8 🗿
Because it is a 25 mm Gatling.
this harrier is probably getting aim120s when they come in next 2 patches
I'm baffled they didn't add this for US first. Completely ridiculous.
Hate these Damn Expert jets. Italy gets the av-8b harrier 2 before the US and Germany gets the only mig 29 9.12 with r73s. Bunch of bullshit imo
Isn't this thing 11.7 now? Can't even see top BR and can get downtiered to 10.7 with AIM-9M's...
But it can see top br....