As a train enthusiast, while I’m sad to see the old trains go I’m so excited to see new trains arrive! I like the features of the new Class 777 Metro units.
@@AymanTravelTransport the class 507s and 508s by themselves already have more seats than the 777, so technically the class 777 is basically a downgrade
I don't like most modern new trains, that's just me, but these are actually really nice. It'll be sad to see the 507/508s go though. These 777s look a bit like trams to me too
Though it's sad to see the PEPs being replaced, it's much needed due to the age and restrictions so, these trains look like they'll do a good job, stadler seem to be very good at building trains
@@AymanTravelTransport I've seen vandalised trains in literally every city I've ever been to. They're easy targets. Whether it's more likely to happen in Liverpool, I'll let others discuss.
@@kevingraham2733 nope, was just making a joke about the crime rates in Liverpool (possibly outdated tho), but then again its probably similar to other big cities like Glasgow or London overall which renders the joke redundant as you're probably pointing out - deleted the comment anyway as I've realised it's not the right place for it anyways
@@burgerpommes2001 No ac system is infallible especially not one that has the immense work and long hours of use as one on a train. In my opinion a good compromise is similar to the design on the Southern 377's with hopper windows that are locked out until required and are well fitted so they don't rattle like on older BR era stock.
@@pooletrainboy Open windows on an underground train is too noisy. I always have to slam the windows closed on the 507 and 508s as you cant hear yourself think.
At 1m 36s thought the lady was attempting to shove usb plug in the live terminal of the UK 3 pin socket! Plastic bezels on socket all the same colour and socket up side down.....how many kids going to do same? Nice trains
Live neutral protection can be bypassed! When sockets first installed on trains ....scotes had a lovely game of leaving a pin in the live connection...for some on to rest there legs on! And not saying Liverpool is full of scrotes!..but?....FYI born and raised till 16 within 3 miles of liverbirds😄
huge fan of these trains, can comfortably (out)compete with what operates in London. would have thought they'd have learned from the BR700 trains to not include ironing board seats though...
Oh no I'd hope there'd be both included, 507, 508 and 777. They already have the 313 or 314 to model it off (Also Rivets new route is diesel btw so it's definitely not this)
On the one hand, they seem to be designing the train to be idiot proof. On the other hand, passengers are now responsible for opening doors. This should be fun to watch....
@David Emmott Yes, hence my question regarding a 21st Century train and people who have additional needs... Some people bizarrely find such a situation acceptable
I think they will be going forward, the tyne and wear metro 555 trains will have the same technology. Its an expensive effort however as most platforms need to be either lowered or hightened to accomodate them. I can see this being an issue with larger networks.
Love this video. But on another note: I find myself a bit puzzled by the current channel Name (Merseyrail Electrics). I have heard about the Wessex Electrics, and if one were to follow that naming example more strictly, _Merseyside Electrics_ would be more consistent. Or _Mersey Electrics_ even. Which could actually be merged into *Merseylectrics* (or _Merselectrics_) 😮💡 Greetings from Germany
507's weren't second hand, they've worked the network from new. Some of the 508's were temporarily used down south before being brought up to their intended network.
@@MichelleW870 they said that about the 507s too. I was one of them. Its the same when anything new comes in. The old is always better than the new. Until the "new" get replaced, then it starts all over again
Ridden on one today for the first time. I found the seats comfortable enough for a 20 minute ride: I can't think would be much different even on the longest journeys Merseyrail run. But it's all down to personal preference of course.
I’m paying for this on my travel and I don’t need a MANAGER I’m not a 4 year old I would like to think I won’t get sucked out a window, and as for the sliding platform why bother no one needs it
If the sliding step wasn’t there, there’d be a giant gap between the train and the platform which is relatively inconvenient for wheelchair, bike and pushchair users. I’m not sure about the train manager either, but I assume it’ll come in handy for some passengers.
The sliding platform will be one of the most useful features, especially for older passangers and wheelchairs, currently staff have to deploy a ramp to allow wheelchairs to get on/off the train. Passengers will be able to do this temselves now without assistance.
Havig seen the struggle some people have with the step up on the present trains, let alone with prams and wheelchairs, it is a great advantage to have level boarding. Also saves platform staff from having to manoeuvre ramps, or the anxiety of passengers who are not sure when or if one will appear.
As a train enthusiast, while I’m sad to see the old trains go I’m so excited to see new trains arrive! I like the features of the new Class 777 Metro units.
Tbf the old trains have had a nice long 40 year run so it's about time they get a replacement
@@AymanTravelTransport the class 507s and 508s by themselves already have more seats than the 777, so technically the class 777 is basically a downgrade
@@ChineseTrainGuy No its an upgrade. There are less seats yes but there is more room for standing which can help at peak time!
@@Mgameing123 Kind of true, but I'll miss these great workhorses. I hope at least 1 or 2 of each class will be preserved.
@@ChineseTrainGuy yeah they fucking better preserve some of them. imagine if they kept 2 and just ran them mixed within the 777 traffic be sound that.
As a visual learner, the green and red lights are amazing.
Agreed!
As a colour blind person, not so much.
@@user-jv7ig6ie5b most people in the world are visual learner, so that’s why it was made like this
I don't like most modern new trains, that's just me, but these are actually really nice. It'll be sad to see the 507/508s go though. These 777s look a bit like trams to me too
SAME HERE FAM!! I just personally don't like the 777s and the peps are fine, although they are showing that they are ageing.
Though it's sad to see the PEPs being replaced, it's much needed due to the age and restrictions so, these trains look like they'll do a good job, stadler seem to be very good at building trains
Not that sad mate the old ones are shit tubes
I prefer the pep but this is a ok replace because it doesn’t iron your clothes
@@davidbarnes3079 agreed
@@ashleyjiscool "ok" its way better
'For charging portable devices only' - I'm intrigued to think what kind of misuse they're worried about there!
There was a picture that did the rounds a little while back of someone running a standing fan off of the train's plugs in London
Il be getting on with a toaster so I can make toast on my way to town 😉
@@timothymeyer3210 lmao what
Never underestimate the great British publics potentil to surprise you.
The sockets on Mark 4 carraiges say "Please no toasters or hairdryers"
Very nice, I just hope that these are not vandalised.
They absolutely will be. Trains are always vandalised.
@@AymanTravelTransport I've seen vandalised trains in literally every city I've ever been to. They're easy targets. Whether it's more likely to happen in Liverpool, I'll let others discuss.
@@AymanTravelTransport so you think trains being vandalised only happens in Liverpool? Grow up
@@kevingraham2733 nope, was just making a joke about the crime rates in Liverpool (possibly outdated tho), but then again its probably similar to other big cities like Glasgow or London overall which renders the joke redundant as you're probably pointing out - deleted the comment anyway as I've realised it's not the right place for it anyways
@@michaelkobylko2969 it was more tongue-in-cheek tbf but perhaps the "crime rates are high in Liverpool" is an outdated notion? Idk
I like these but the only thing I hate is the lack of opening windows, air con doesn’t always do much to a packed train….
Modern air con is way better than open Windows
@@burgerpommes2001 As long as it is working.
@@pooletrainboy If you don't cheap out it will
@@burgerpommes2001 No ac system is infallible especially not one that has the immense work and long hours of use as one on a train. In my opinion a good compromise is similar to the design on the Southern 377's with hopper windows that are locked out until required and are well fitted so they don't rattle like on older BR era stock.
@@pooletrainboy Open windows on an underground train is too noisy. I always have to slam the windows closed on the 507 and 508s as you cant hear yourself think.
Still not been rolled out ,I heard they are constantly breaking down
At 1m 36s thought the lady was attempting to shove usb plug in the live terminal of the UK 3 pin socket! Plastic bezels on socket all the same colour and socket up side down.....how many kids going to do same?
Nice trains
And I thought the top 2 ports were for usb-c!
Should be OK because the earth pin needs to be inserted to unlock the live terminal.
Live neutral protection can be bypassed! When sockets first installed on trains ....scotes had a lovely game of leaving a pin in the live connection...for some on to rest there legs on! And not saying Liverpool is full of scrotes!..but?....FYI born and raised till 16 within 3 miles of liverbirds😄
The Class 777 will help to improve better journeys and to help reduce overcrowding including rush hour. They do look really nice.
huge fan of these trains, can comfortably (out)compete with what operates in London. would have thought they'd have learned from the BR700 trains to not include ironing board seats though...
These trains are fab looking!
I can see this arrive in train Sim world if Merseyrail were to give Skyhook games access to the TMD where Class 777s are based.
Oh no I'd hope there'd be both included, 507, 508 and 777. They already have the 313 or 314 to model it off
(Also Rivets new route is diesel btw so it's definitely not this)
glad i got to go on the old 507/508s, sad to see them go but these new trains will be a massive improvement
There's no windows, no ventilation, on a warm day, they stink!
On the one hand, they seem to be designing the train to be idiot proof. On the other hand, passengers are now responsible for opening doors. This should be fun to watch....
You know there's no such thing as idiot proof. Some idiot will always find a way.
Lmao
I can already see people walking into them not realising there's a button, should be a nice bit of entertainment on the commute
Class 508’s are nice and classic
I feel like these units will outlive a lot of other new EMUs currently entering service
do you think you can keep or preserve the 508's?
I love them ❤
It's interesting to see that the seats aren't 100% longitudinal like on most modern metro trains.
The trains were designed with consultation of members if the public, especially the interior layout, seating arrangement etc.
Are the train toilets wheelchair accessible?
With no opening windows, what is the volume of fresh air change / ventilation per minute?
No toilets! Never have been on Merseyrail.
@David Emmott Yes, hence my question regarding a 21st Century train and people who have additional needs...
Some people bizarrely find such a situation acceptable
Usually on these metro type services u arent on the train for longer than 30m so you should be fine w no shitter.
Can u make the class 777 merseyrail teddy?
Why aren’t all trains built with level platform access??
I think they will be going forward, the tyne and wear metro 555 trains will have the same technology. Its an expensive effort however as most platforms need to be either lowered or hightened to accomodate them. I can see this being an issue with larger networks.
Love this video. But on another note: I find myself a bit puzzled by the current channel Name (Merseyrail Electrics). I have heard about the Wessex Electrics, and if one were to follow that naming example more strictly, _Merseyside Electrics_ would be more consistent. Or _Mersey Electrics_ even. Which could actually be merged into *Merseylectrics* (or _Merselectrics_) 😮💡
Greetings from Germany
Merseyrail eletrics limited is the actual name of the company.
When are they on the Chester line
They wont be on the chester line for a while, I think the Ormskirk line will be next.
If you would like to stand ?
well them seats will be used as footrests getting filthy in no time so standing will be a preferred option
@@z00h Very unlikely Merseyrail issues a £60 fine to people caught with their feet on the seats, and enforce it with strict zero tolerance.
@@z00h Not with a train manager on the train they wont.
@@andywilliams7323 Someone needs to submit this idea to TfL, London mandem and galdem give 0 fucks.
508/507 stock were second hand when they arrived!
507's weren't second hand, they've worked the network from new.
Some of the 508's were temporarily used down south before being brought up to their intended network.
Love the Class 777
About damn time lol
Looking good
s p a c e s h i p :)
Not a patch on the PEPs.
Going to miss the 507's, 508's
The PEPs were not a patch on the 502s & 503s
@@Merseywail but still, there is no way these are gonna last as long as they did. i give them 15-20 years, maybe not even that
@@MichelleW870 they said that about the 507s too. I was one of them. Its the same when anything new comes in. The old is always better than the new. Until the "new" get replaced, then it starts all over again
A damn sight quieter!
Haemorrhoids Special
To be honest I'm not looking forward to to new trains as I've seen loads of problems.
Such as?
theyre so much better, what problems?
5 years later........
the seating is not comfy at all
Ridden on one today for the first time. I found the seats comfortable enough for a 20 minute ride: I can't think would be much different even on the longest journeys Merseyrail run. But it's all down to personal preference of course.
I’m paying for this on my travel and I don’t need a MANAGER I’m not a 4 year old I would like to think I won’t get sucked out a window, and as for the sliding platform why bother no one needs it
Disabled people dont exist ? It literally shows the usefulness in the video how can u miss that ye tit
Just cos u may not be disabled or need a ramp onto a train doesn't mean it's not useful for some people use Ur brain
If the sliding step wasn’t there, there’d be a giant gap between the train and the platform which is relatively inconvenient for wheelchair, bike and pushchair users. I’m not sure about the train manager either, but I assume it’ll come in handy for some passengers.
The sliding platform will be one of the most useful features, especially for older passangers and wheelchairs, currently staff have to deploy a ramp to allow wheelchairs to get on/off the train. Passengers will be able to do this temselves now without assistance.
Havig seen the struggle some people have with the step up on the present trains, let alone with prams and wheelchairs, it is a great advantage to have level boarding. Also saves platform staff from having to manoeuvre ramps, or the anxiety of passengers who are not sure when or if one will appear.
Still no bogs
Not really needed on a metro service. Most customers rarely stay on them for longer than 20 minutes. Lots of the stations have toilets.
i dont live in Merseyside or near it thanks youtube
Lmao
Neither do i but I was definitely shown the video because I like trains
poor u
Hate them, i dont like change.
Since it's public owned does that mean it's free then ?
The royal mint is publicly owned, do you expect free money too?
Is this a joke .