It would be dope if NI did get Maschine as a full DAW. It would make everything NI a one stop shop. Do the entire session in NI assuming the DAW will be equipped with full mixing capabilities. Hopefully NI goes in that direction.
I don’t want a full DAW I want some stuff refined like how the library works with user sounds and settings. I want to preset the sampler before I sample ( you use to be able to do that in 1.5) resample in mono ( once again 1.5 did this ) and I want to dither down and up sample my sounds too
I am looking forward to the fact that NI has not updated the maschine software for ten years because they are designing a complete DAW, not just for the maschine, but a real DAW. If NI makes a complete DAW that can be fully controlled by the maschine and their midi keyboard, and the functions of this DAW in arranging, mixing, and recording can be as smooth as Ableton or Logic, I will not hesitate to sell my newly bought Ableton Push3 and the midi keyboard I have used for two years, uninstall all other DAWs on my computer, and then I will buy all their hardware, as well as all the NI plug-ins I will use. If that day really comes, I can't imagine how excited I will be.
Make sure you guys are going to the forums on the native instruments! We need as many people voting and speaking up so they don’t abandon maschine..! Good video by the way
I am also a big lover of Ni and maschine2! I always said Ni could be the biggest DAW on market easily with all the VST and kontack sofware they got! Specially now they own iZotop and PluggingAlliance/Brainworx, They will be unstoppable easily! But I don’t why disappointing all fan! And me first this not the directions they are taking right! The new keyboard it even NOT integrated to Maschine2 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ Ni seems to be money marketing driven That innovation! As they use to be!
I’m glad they posted your vid on their channel. Hope they listen to you because they haven’t been listening to the millions of suggestions that customers put on the site. We been begging for years for a software update. They gotta keep up wit the times. I’m almost thinking about switching to Mpc and logic( I use maschine and studio one now). They gotta step it up
I’ve been questioning wether to get a Digitakt or MPC instead. I own a mk3 but want to go stand-alone, and for how much the Plus still costs, I can get an Mpc one new for less, or a second hand mpc live, or the Digitakt. The only issue is I worry about going back to complete beginner again with a new instrument as I really like and am used to Maschine workflow. I can’t decide. It’s annoying as I know that there must be the correct choice, that will take my music to the next level, but I just don’t know and can’t try either out before buying so it’s either take the risk and buy the mpc or Digitakt, or stay with Maschine and spend more money for the plus.
I have an Akai MPC Live and a native instruments machine MK3 my issue with the native instruments machine it doesn’t have real time time stretching where you can warp a sample even after you chop it that’s always been an issue of mine with the machine use serato sample with the machine software and it does everything that I wanted to do now
@@BlackBeltTitus it’s dope bro you won’t be disappointed if you use it The time stretching on that is fire also it has a stem splitter so you can extract the stems of a sample individually
compared to writing software, easier to do, mostly curated, quick influx of cash and something they can fire sale at the end of each year. They're leaving money on the table to all those others pushing packs for a few bucks too. why not grab that piece of the spending.
I just wish there was a much more straight forward workflow of intergrating Maschine into Logic. I want each part as it's own track. It's easy enough to get audio tracks done, but with MIDI, the routing and stuff can get well hectic. I will start a beat in Maschine, and then want to carry on with it in Logic but the workflow is no wherer near as good as it should be. I hope if Native Instruments ever update Maschine software, or bring out a mk4, I really hope it has better Integration with Logic, and I hope the mk4 will have standalone option also, and multiple MIDI 5 pin DIN outs.
I have a feeling the next thing coming is additions to their daw. They do the mixing and mastering, I will keep my backup but I wouldn't need to go anywhere else for anything. Unless adding expansions and other plugins vst. I love Native Instruments!n!! 💪💪🏿🎉🎉
I agree. Maschine has so much untapped potential. I'm a pro tools and logic user, but Maschines ability to quickly record ideas into a full track is beyond any DAW i've ever used. But when it comes to mixing and editing, Maschine is basically useless. The automation is terrible and the integration with any DAW is a clunky nightmare. I really hope they find a way to seamlessly integrate Maschines workflow into a useable plugin without all the latency and tedious routing. Fingers crossed!
Hi I agree with you on quite a few items here and would like to see the sampler have more functionality as my mixer I/O goes into it, but find it very buggy…and doesn’t record properly sometimes , the arranger could do with a chord track feature also, I do love the Chord Mode on the Maschine , I’ve also sat for 3 years now with NI Daw to get my head around it, and trying get off using the mainstream DAWs…Mainly Studio 1 6.5 as I’ve been with them since day one, but due to Fender take over I’m not now so keen to stay loyal due to way its pricing is going etc. especially for long term users like myself, So big huge YES for Ni and moving on up with a more featured DAW , I would go back to Logic which also I’ve slowly moved away from, but Logics future is looking awesome especially with all the AI software recently…BASS KEYS DRUMMER…incredible indeed. What keeps me with Ni nowadays is the Maschine mk 3 - S88 Keys and Jam….and not to mention their sound libraries, untouchable as far as im concerned and just gets better. Love the tactile control of their hardware and hope this won’t ever drop, fingers crossed on an upgraded DAW Ni…don’t take away anything that’s there tho…and the same for Maschine mk 3, just keep getting better as it has done over the years. Jono Rezzillo 👌🏴
You're right about the "they got comfortable" bit. In the last few years there had not been a mentionable innovation in the Maschine 2.0 software. Some DAW like functionalities would be greatly appreciated. Not too much though, because the simplicity and speedy workflow are one of Machine's strong points. The lack of MP3 support is very unfortunate indeed, however thank God most if not all samples on Splice are wavs. I dunno from where you got the idea that most samples on Splice are MP3s, because they are not.
I can’t believe you didn’t mention the piano roll needing a big update. If you’ve used FL Studio 21 or Live 12 using the piano roll on Maschine is like using a flip phone in 2024
I have created whole tracks in Maschine and never used any other DAW to do anything. My only real gripe about Maschine is how unwieldy it is for automation…
Maschine software workflow is still confusing me a little bit and I need to get used to it, including naming convension ( I've just got bought Maschine Mikro). However what most annoys me is that I'm limited with using my lauchpad with Maschine 2.0 soft and Maschine Mikro with Ableton. I know I can do that somehow with some scripts, but I would like to have it working right away. I even dont want to have all features available on given midi controller, but at least some of them.
Interesting Idea. I was surprised to hear you say you wanted to import and drop mp3 files onto your projects. I wouldn't want to do that because now you have compressed (lossy) things in your project, and then if you encode it you double compress (lossy) when you go to MP3. I'd want to trade wav's for that reason. Sure they're bigger, but that's cuz they're not compressed (lossy). Unless I'm missing something as I'm no expert, just a < year machine user. I have often wondered how Maschine works compared to Logic/Ableton. You build all these patterns, but they're recorded by the DAW as a single instrument? (haven't done a lot of it so I may not know some things) seemed weird workflow. I know in my reading on the community forum they have said they are resource constrained, and that's why they're slow to support new Mac OS revisions. I'd hate for them to start work on a DAW and further constrain their resources though. That'd mean Mashine the DAW would need to generate its own income to fund a team, and all the machine users probably wouldn't be happy about a $300-$1100 cost for something they need to make their hardware work? Interesting idea though definitely. Guess we'll hear what they have planned one day :)
ref maschine does anyone know if there is a randomize midi notes button i can click on the software alone ? like in fl studio or mpc beats generate random patterns notes etc ?
At first I thought I could build a whole track inside Maschine but I quickly realized I always had to resort to Cubase to finish it. Maschine is just a notepad.
I've made many full songs in Maschine. You just need to learn how to do it. I am a cubase user since v.1.0 on Atari (1996). I still use Cubase for example film music scores but for electronic music I use Maschine and have no problem making full songs with many many layers and effects.
They Really need Overhaul & Update Maschine Software.. I need: Detachable Windows. Themes. A Proper Nle Timeline. Maschine Needs a feature where when exporting audio it stops exporting unused tracks as empty files 🤦♂️ that's so fn annoying.
Native instruments have not focused on being a daw because there are so many others out there. I'm sure they could produce one if they wanted to, but it would come at the cost of attention to their sweet spot, which is actual sound. Instead, they've focused on sound production, which is something so many others cannot compete with. It clearly is part of their strategy to work this way. Otherwise, they would have done it.
I don't understand the desire for users to have a Native Instruments DAW, when the majority are complaining about current software limitations of the and lack of updates; as if NI drops a full-on DAW, these shortcomings will, suddenly, cease to exist. Maschine is a sampler/groovebox, much like the MPC, SP-404, Digitakt, etc. You wouldn't expect those companies to release a fully-fledged DAW, though. "But Maschine (w/the exception of Maschine+) is NOT standalone, unlike those devices"......So what? The concept is the same. Create songs in the box, then finish them in a DAW. If Native Instruments were to ever create a DAW, it would be half-baked and limited. There are plenty of DAWs out there (that have gone through decades of development) to choose from. Just my opinion, of course, and I realize people have different use cases for Maschine than I do.
It would be dope if NI did get Maschine as a full DAW. It would make everything NI a one stop shop. Do the entire session in NI assuming the DAW will be equipped with full mixing capabilities. Hopefully NI goes in that direction.
Totally agree!!! Hope native takes that step but we’ll see. My guess is they make it more DAW compatible
I don’t want a full DAW I want some stuff refined like how the library works with user sounds and settings. I want to preset the sampler before I sample ( you use to be able to do that in 1.5) resample in mono ( once again 1.5 did this ) and I want to dither down and up sample my sounds too
I am looking forward to the fact that NI has not updated the maschine software for ten years because they are designing a complete DAW, not just for the maschine, but a real DAW. If NI makes a complete DAW that can be fully controlled by the maschine and their midi keyboard, and the functions of this DAW in arranging, mixing, and recording can be as smooth as Ableton or Logic, I will not hesitate to sell my newly bought Ableton Push3 and the midi keyboard I have used for two years, uninstall all other DAWs on my computer, and then I will buy all their hardware, as well as all the NI plug-ins I will use. If that day really comes, I can't imagine how excited I will be.
Make sure you guys are going to the forums on the native instruments! We need as many people voting and speaking up so they don’t abandon maschine..! Good video by the way
Totally agree!!! We need to let native now what the people want!!! Be active in the communities to let em know!!!
Native Instruments is amazing,, but your points are valid. Maschine could be the most amazing studio in a box… 🙏🏻✌🏼
Absolutely agree
I am also a big lover of Ni and maschine2! I always said Ni could be the biggest DAW on market easily with all the VST and kontack sofware they got! Specially now they own iZotop and PluggingAlliance/Brainworx, They will be unstoppable easily! But I don’t why disappointing all fan! And me first this not the directions they are taking right! The new keyboard it even NOT integrated to Maschine2 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Ni seems to be money marketing driven That innovation! As they use to be!
I agree Maschine has so much potential!!! Love the vid!!!
Thanks so much!!! definitely a project they shouldn't give up on in my opinion!!!!
I’m glad they posted your vid on their channel. Hope they listen to you because they haven’t been listening to the millions of suggestions that customers put on the site. We been begging for years for a software update. They gotta keep up wit the times. I’m almost thinking about switching to Mpc and logic( I use maschine and studio one now). They gotta step it up
Yeah I agree!! Definitely got complacent with maschine for sure!!! Really hoping for an update!!!!
I’ve been questioning wether to get a Digitakt or MPC instead. I own a mk3 but want to go stand-alone, and for how much the Plus still costs, I can get an Mpc one new for less, or a second hand mpc live, or the Digitakt.
The only issue is I worry about going back to complete beginner again with a new instrument as I really like and am used to Maschine workflow.
I can’t decide. It’s annoying as I know that there must be the correct choice, that will take my music to the next level, but I just don’t know and can’t try either out before buying so it’s either take the risk and buy the mpc or Digitakt, or stay with Maschine and spend more money for the plus.
@@h-dawg969 what about a maschine plus? Ik they’re no the greatest standalone device on the planet, but at least you’d get to keep your workflow
on which channel did they posted it?
Spot on mate. I hope NI hear this !
There is 3 icons next to the mix window (plungin,io,aux) you can add effects and plugins and route within the group or to another fyi
They need to do more work on Maschine ..I love how it sounds
Honestly!!!
I have an Akai MPC Live and a native instruments machine MK3 my issue with the native instruments machine it doesn’t have real time time stretching where you can warp a sample even after you chop it that’s always been an issue of mine with the machine use serato sample with the machine software and it does everything that I wanted to do now
That’s fair!! Haven’t got seroto sample!! Might need to cop!!
@@BlackBeltTitus it’s dope bro you won’t be disappointed if you use it The time stretching on that is fire also it has a stem splitter so you can extract the stems of a sample individually
Seems like NI is more focused on expansion packs than anything else nowadays.
It’s so true!!! Like we have enough sounds 😂
Seriously! And it's all the same techno bs
compared to writing software, easier to do, mostly curated, quick influx of cash and something they can fire sale at the end of each year. They're leaving money on the table to all those others pushing packs for a few bucks too. why not grab that piece of the spending.
I use logic and maschine at the same time. But I agree!!! I would love to be able to just make beats inside the maschine software!!!
totally agree!!! I would love it too
I just wish there was a much more straight forward workflow of intergrating Maschine into Logic.
I want each part as it's own track. It's easy enough to get audio tracks done, but with MIDI, the routing and stuff can get well hectic.
I will start a beat in Maschine, and then want to carry on with it in Logic but the workflow is no wherer near as good as it should be.
I hope if Native Instruments ever update Maschine software, or bring out a mk4, I really hope it has better Integration with Logic, and I hope the mk4 will have standalone option also, and multiple MIDI 5 pin DIN outs.
They hardly update Maschine anymore…been stuck on 2.0 for over 10 years
It’s true… really hoping they get going. Especially with all the moves other DAW’s have been making recently
I wonder why its on 2.18 then 😂
@@pwho405 you know what I meant 🙄
@@delivknox actually I don’t seeing how I take people at their word.
@@pwho405 I’ve been using Maschine since version 1.x and it updated to version 2 a couple years later and hasn’t gone beyond that since…
The mixer tab also allows panning not just volume and the master tab allows users to add mastering effects on a project level.
I have a feeling the next thing coming is additions to their daw. They do the mixing and mastering, I will keep my backup but I wouldn't need to go anywhere else for anything. Unless adding expansions and other plugins vst. I love Native Instruments!n!! 💪💪🏿🎉🎉
You've made me intrested in Maschine after 6 months of it just gathering dust in my bedroom. Thank you.
So glad to hear that!!! Pumped for you to start using it again!!!
I agree. Maschine has so much untapped potential. I'm a pro tools and logic user, but Maschines ability to quickly record ideas into a full track is beyond any DAW i've ever used. But when it comes to mixing and editing, Maschine is basically useless. The automation is terrible and the integration with any DAW is a clunky nightmare. I really hope they find a way to seamlessly integrate Maschines workflow into a useable plugin without all the latency and tedious routing. Fingers crossed!
I totally agree!! Maschine is unmatched when it comes to getting my ideas from my head into the computer!!! I really hope the update maschine soon!
Hi I agree with you on quite a few items here and would like to see the sampler have more functionality as my mixer I/O goes into it, but find it very buggy…and doesn’t record properly sometimes , the arranger could do with a chord track feature also, I do love the Chord Mode on the Maschine , I’ve also sat for 3 years now with NI Daw to get my head around it, and trying get off using the mainstream DAWs…Mainly Studio 1 6.5 as I’ve been with them since day one, but due to Fender take over I’m not now so keen to stay loyal due to way its pricing is going etc. especially for long term users like myself, So big huge YES for Ni and moving on up with a more featured DAW , I would go back to Logic which also I’ve slowly moved away from, but Logics future is looking awesome especially with all the AI software recently…BASS KEYS DRUMMER…incredible indeed. What keeps me with Ni nowadays is the Maschine mk 3 - S88 Keys and Jam….and not to mention their sound libraries, untouchable as far as im concerned and just gets better. Love the tactile control of their hardware and hope this won’t ever drop, fingers crossed on an upgraded DAW Ni…don’t take away anything that’s there tho…and the same for Maschine mk 3, just keep getting better as it has done over the years. Jono Rezzillo 👌🏴
You're right about the "they got comfortable" bit. In the last few years there had not been a mentionable innovation in the Maschine 2.0 software. Some DAW like functionalities would be greatly appreciated. Not too much though, because the simplicity and speedy workflow are one of Machine's strong points. The lack of MP3 support is very unfortunate indeed, however thank God most if not all samples on Splice are wavs. I dunno from where you got the idea that most samples on Splice are MP3s, because they are not.
Great points man!!! Your videos inspire me so much!!! Keep putting them out!!!
Thanks I appreciate it!!!
I can’t believe you didn’t mention the piano roll needing a big update. If you’ve used FL Studio 21 or Live 12 using the piano roll on Maschine is like using a flip phone in 2024
Fair enough!! Maybe I’ll have to make a part 2 and include that!!!
😂
I have no issues pulling samples in from splice...
Thanks for the video! This days no people do videos of maschine, looks like death, all videos are mpc 😅
No problem!!! Glad you liked it!!!
I have created whole tracks in Maschine and never used any other DAW to do anything. My only real gripe about Maschine is how unwieldy it is for automation…
Yeah true!! Definitely can make full songs in maschine. I just find it a lot harder!!
Maschine software workflow is still confusing me a little bit and I need to get used to it, including naming convension ( I've just got bought Maschine Mikro). However what most annoys me is that I'm limited with using my lauchpad with Maschine 2.0 soft and Maschine Mikro with Ableton. I know I can do that somehow with some scripts, but I would like to have it working right away. I even dont want to have all features available on given midi controller, but at least some of them.
Interesting Idea. I was surprised to hear you say you wanted to import and drop mp3 files onto your projects. I wouldn't want to do that because now you have compressed (lossy) things in your project, and then if you encode it you double compress (lossy) when you go to MP3. I'd want to trade wav's for that reason. Sure they're bigger, but that's cuz they're not compressed (lossy). Unless I'm missing something as I'm no expert, just a < year machine user.
I have often wondered how Maschine works compared to Logic/Ableton. You build all these patterns, but they're recorded by the DAW as a single instrument? (haven't done a lot of it so I may not know some things) seemed weird workflow.
I know in my reading on the community forum they have said they are resource constrained, and that's why they're slow to support new Mac OS revisions. I'd hate for them to start work on a DAW and further constrain their resources though. That'd mean Mashine the DAW would need to generate its own income to fund a team, and all the machine users probably wouldn't be happy about a $300-$1100 cost for something they need to make their hardware work?
Interesting idea though definitely. Guess we'll hear what they have planned one day :)
ref maschine does anyone know if there is a randomize midi notes button i can click on the software alone ? like in fl studio or mpc beats generate random patterns notes etc ?
Just heard Logic has stems now?😮 brilliant.
Fr!! I’m hyped to try it out!! Might have to get logic out again!!
@@BlackBeltTitus bro. I’m killing it right NOW OMG it’s AWESOME!!!!!!!!!🤩
Oh yeah the controller integration with massive and monarch
At first I thought I could build a whole track inside Maschine but I quickly realized I always had to resort to Cubase to finish it. Maschine is just a notepad.
Yeah that’s how I feel about it rn!!!
I've made many full songs in Maschine. You just need to learn how to do it. I am a cubase user since v.1.0 on Atari (1996). I still use Cubase for example film music scores but for electronic music I use Maschine and have no problem making full songs with many many layers and effects.
I truly believe this will happen because Kontrol Mk3 can control most DAW's. So it would make sense for them to transition.
Totally agree. It would make sense for them to upgrade the software and make a fully integrated system
I use them in tandum.
I do as well on occasion!! however I'd love to be able to just make beats in maschine completely!!!
They Really need Overhaul & Update Maschine Software.. I need:
Detachable Windows.
Themes.
A Proper Nle Timeline.
Maschine Needs a feature where when exporting audio it stops exporting unused tracks as empty files 🤦♂️ that's so fn annoying.
So facts!!! Definitely a lot of problems that need to be addressed!!! Hoping the maschine community is pushing NI in the right direction!!!
Also a modern piano roll.
@@palimo3653 totally agree!!!
Native instruments have not focused on being a daw because there are so many others out there.
I'm sure they could produce one if they wanted to, but it would come at the cost of attention to their sweet spot, which is actual sound. Instead, they've focused on sound production, which is something so many others cannot compete with.
It clearly is part of their strategy to work this way. Otherwise, they would have done it.
Great take!! At a minimum tho I would love if they updated maschine software tho
I don't understand the desire for users to have a Native Instruments DAW, when the majority are complaining about current software limitations of the and lack of updates; as if NI drops a full-on DAW, these shortcomings will, suddenly, cease to exist. Maschine is a sampler/groovebox, much like the MPC, SP-404, Digitakt, etc. You wouldn't expect those companies to release a fully-fledged DAW, though. "But Maschine (w/the exception of Maschine+) is NOT standalone, unlike those devices"......So what? The concept is the same. Create songs in the box, then finish them in a DAW. If Native Instruments were to ever create a DAW, it would be half-baked and limited. There are plenty of DAWs out there (that have gone through decades of development) to choose from. Just my opinion, of course, and I realize people have different use cases for Maschine than I do.
Who in their right mind use mp3 in music production?...sigh!
Two words: audio tracks.
Fair 😂
It’s great that it’s not a bloated DAW. I don’t need that I have Logic and Live.
Fair enough!!