@@cometken5 the guns in this game are relatively the same as cs, the awp in this game is more expensive and worst, but i guess movement speed in this game is much slower which makes the awp in valorant much easier to hit shots with so it trades off ig
he never really fit the duelist role. sentinels are really good at watching flanks and so happens that chamber being able to watch 2 angles is too good, but he doesnt have the duelist tools to make space for your team to entry
@@vichoe4589 What is the difference between Dashing out of sight as Jett and TP out as Chamber?. His TP is even stronger here with wider range, you can literally push defender, kill one or two and TP out.
His tour de force definitely needed a slower fire rate but I don't believe it should've been reduced to a normal op fire rate. Maybe like in between what the old fire rate was & what an op fire rate is.
With all these nerfs they didn't need to destroy the tour de force fire rate instead of just reducing it a bit. And he can probably have his 2nd trap back now that he's finally properly balanced.
with the nerf to everything on his kit, i think he should get the 2nd trap back at least. Also i think its kinda uncool to make his ult just a normal op (idk about balance).
The op is a free op, that can slow people, that can scope faster. For pro play, that's still pretty broken. Riot is seeing these through the highest potential.
That’s even better lmao. With the single anchor attacking will be a lot easier XD. During 1v1s Or clutch moments it’s really difficult to setup two anchors as you might die setting that up or Give away your position. (I’m a gold player but Ig It’s better for me at least in my ELO)
Fr people think his tp was overpowered but it was only good for starting round peek. After that it was a lot of trouble to setup the 2nd time and risky too. Honestly they made it easy lmao
Yeah, but the 30 seconds cooldown timer after recalling the Trademark trap is still kind of an overkill. It feels like an eternity. They should decrease the cooldown timer, or have him carry 2 Trademark traps again like in his heydays.
But since it's 1 TP that you place hidden away from the enemy instead of 2, it's a lot harder to break it and shut it down. Chamber will just take it back immediately after he TPs. Definitely not an unreasonable change.
the op is a bit weird because now tthe op is no longer actually special. it is just a money saver. you get a free op with 5 shots instead of having to buy one.
It still special, when you kill someone it made a slow field, that's a strong special feature. When you kill enemy who holding the spike, the other enemy players will be in difficult situation to take the spike out
@@itsCynos But the slow is reduced right in before patch i guess they should bring that back as they reduced it saying next bullet was fast to arrive now it takes time so the slow should be back
@@drake_sebastian reduced yes but at least it's not removed , and his ability is still special because he can hold down a whole push , snipe the first guy , switch to your rifle and you can spray or burst anyone who tries to push through the slow. Plus utilities like molly are sooo much better when used with the slowfield, especially when the entry point is narrow, like bind.
Idk about the fire rate. While the other changes are understandable (you gotta admit he was busted). The fast op fire rate is what made chamber really fun. I wish they lowered the fire rate to a lesser degree, still making it faster than the usual op but still a bit slower than how it is now. I think they could've kept the fire rate but remove the slow field that the op creates
If you remove the slow field then its just an awp sure you can have a chance of getting a penta but if the enemy gets control of the site then youre not doing your job as a sentinel
I feel like they should've kept the fire rate of the ult the same, or reduced it by just a little. Chamber now basically just has a normal op that cost a fuck-ton of ult points. Also i feel like chambers guns were really good for variation, cause there are only so many guns to choose from, and nerfing them... Is kind of a bad desicion.(i mean his headhunter stayed pretty much the same but...)
Man hight limit taked out and big radius is something huge you don't realize it? There's a lot of places on the maps where you can take advantages of these both factor but ofc taking the other anchor is a huge nerf but we can't tell after we use the tp by ourselves on the game
The double anchor is actually pretty busted for rotations.... Now he can escape and setup easily but the con is he cant tp across the map anymore which is a pretty big nerf
@@SynergyHD hes j been dumbed down to having the role that jett kind of had pre-nerf instead of his gamechanging abilities. i think they couldve just added more time to his anchors and slowed down the op speed, these really fat nerfs all coming out at once really bother me. they should just slowly nerf one item at a time and see how it affects the agent(s) rather than just deleting an agents kit. chambers basically the same as all the other tp/dash agents now with slightly differing numbers.
I can honestly say about chambers tp is actually pretty good AND bad in my opinion. As the range increased, though only one tp and don't know where to place it for cover. Recommended using tp for ONLY peek advantage or trying to get the orb.
Iam convinced that if Chamber pick rates doesn't drop much in next VCT.... They'll reduce tp range to 2m..Ult 1 bullet.. headhunter deals 50 damage to head...Traps takes 1 hour to detect enemies
It was a duelist back then, when we had 2 duelists and a chamber i always said "oh we have 3 duelists" so the main chamber would complain about it and he would play like a sentinel just to show that its not duelist, he woulda die everytime becayse he dont got the skills to be a sentinel, it haves one sentinel then 3 duelists skills
@@kevinnguyen8631 how would chamber not able to entry when he would have a shield and the most powerfull pistol in the game in the first round and he would be able to get information from where the enemies are then tp back, and when he got the ult ya know, he would just kill everyone
@@tadashi1870 Nope. Walking into the site with full shields is something every agent does. Walking into the site and tping away doesn't create space because you lost the space you gained the instance you tp'd. Gathering information is an initiator's role not a duelist. This is why yoru is a duelist/initiator hybrid because of how his clone can gather information and his ult. Skye and Kayo can enter with their flashes making them a viable entry for triple initiator comps. Killing everyone with ult still doesn't mean he is a duelist because he still can't entry. Chamber is more of an awper/sentinel like how jett is a duelist/awper. Valorant players don't understand the roles and hybrid roles of agents which is why they always fail to play their agent and rank up. Immortal 2, Fatal, #dad. You are getting a perspective of an immortal 2 controller/innitiator main
@@chora3rd460 Oh right that bird dude or whatever, I never played him. But with him, I feel like thats all he has plus that camera. Chamber is busted in my opinion. But as I said, I dont know much.
I still believe this change is alright. Though i think the Trademark still needs a bit of balancing. They cant put 2, cuz 2 Trademarks would still be equal to 3 sites that he can protect. He can be at mid and both trademarks are on say A and C (in Haven). Keeping it at 1 means its... Well, okay I guess, but he definitely wouldnt be someone going forward anymore
According to Riot, Chamber is a Sentinel that puts his body in the line to defend site. So, one Trademark makes sense cause he himself is his second Trademark with a One Tap Gun and quick escape along with the deadliest weapon in the game, his Custom Sniper.
@@jarifahmed977 "deadiest weapon in the game" bro did you not look at the changes? It's literally a normal operator now. Even jett knives are better than the op
@@uviolin593 i won't really agree with that. The difference is Chamber's Tour De Force one shots even on body shots, Jett's knives however, DOESN'T. If you hit all your shots on head, sure I won't argue.
@@jarifahmed977 I do agree with you here. Thats why I said its okay i guess, considering i believe it might still need just a little more touch ups. Maybe a little bit bigger range, then again I think its fat already for the range before it deactivates xD
Riot forget tour de force its a op custom made soo its better then the normal op and the tp is useless on chamber because chamber needs to hold sites and the mark why range
i see, chamber nerfs arent that much of a big deal afterall. As a chamber main, i hate it when the enemy chamber body spams me with headhunter when i invest time tapping head with it. I like the new tp too, just pick it up when sova has ult. The new ult saddened me a bit because it no longer is an ace machine unlike pre-nerf chamber. I also like the new trip when i can pick it up mid-round but can riot atleast give 2 trips instead of one again?
I can finally cru in joy. Holy fuck his ultimate was just too good. But the headhunter is now lol, truly you have to hunt the head now haha no more spamming on the face.
Chamber was my main I think I will change wtf is the idea of a range for trap and its gun is just a sherif now but 150 for ONE bullet they destroyed chamber...
Where are all guys that said that chamber was ok and doesn't need nerfs? Of course now don't say anything and probably getting nerfed again in a future bc tp/dashes make agents so much easy to play not the inverse.
Poor Chamber…the ultimate change is overkill for him. Imho if think Chamber need to be “High Risk High Reward”. The fire rate was right, but i would add a special feature to balance, the special ammo from tour de force must be only TWO, 1 loaded to the barrel and 1 to reload, and u can get the rest of bullets if u kills the enemies.
What confuses me is, why all these nerfs at once?, He's been dominating for a while now, why just randomly drop a nerf to everything. Same with the cypher buffs, he's been dogshit for so long, then BAM they buffed literally everything on him?
changes opinion Tp : its fine Head Hunter : its fine too Op : kinda hate the change cause thats an ultimate it should be special but now its just boring
It would be fun *IF* the tp had infinite range, like you put it down in one spot and can tp any time. Kinda like yoru but less mobile. I think the 13 meter is too restricting and can't really get you out of many situations. The range limit on the trap is also a bit unnecessary, and the ult fire rate change made it absolutely horrible. Chamber ult is now just a normal op with the annoying slow field. It isn't fun for anyone now because they decreased the fire rate, which was the fun part of it.
@@alk4n3 Chamber isn't the best sentinel and never was. Chamber can't lock down a site by himself and never really could. All sentinels had their own gimmicks, like Chamber's tp and guns, Sage's heals and wall, Killjoy's turret and swarms, and Cypher's camera and cages. They all have different skill sets, so you can't say that Chamber is a better sentinel because he is very different from the other sentinels.
They should have never removed Chamber's double trap, and should have implemented that range like KJ for both of his traps. It doesn't make any sense, Cypher has 2 Trip Wires, KJ mains can use an alarm bot and her turret to to watch flank, or alert if someone's lurking, but chamber has only one trap and that too is now has an specific range, lol. 😂😂
He fulfils a different role as a sentinel as compared to the others. Cypher is an information gatherer with no offensive abilities , kj is very well suited for holding one site along with the flanks of that site, whereas chamber is an aggressive sentinel specialising in taking space and moving around flexibly so it makes sense to only give him one trip as he's not supposed to be the one holding flank everywhere
Cypher's trap only hold 1 person so that is a maximum of 2 person held(both trips tripped) meanwhile chamber can literally affect the whole team effectively holding 2 sites
Or they buffed it? Instead of thinking for a tp setup you can use your tp on a creative ways and take the advantage of a big radius and hight limits is taked out there's a lot of places on some maps where you can take the advantage of hight limits of your tp and big radius and on mean time tp to safety
Tbh, he's still strong. They can never truly balance him without completely GUTTING the idea of him. The core principle of chamber is being able to take a low risk fight when your tp cd is down. Everything supports this idea. The core reason why he's so strong is the instantaneous retreat, allowing him to effectively play contact and second engage or even for retake after first contact. To balance chamber requires one change; it is to make his teleport be a prepped action like Jett. If they did that, chamber would lose his identity and his play rate would crash. I don't see this nerf being overall significant but it does limit his power quite a bit and that trap nerf is unessicary, riot has no ideas how to make him balanced without gutting his kit... And I don't envy the conundrum they've put themselves in.
But chamber TP is a prepped action. Its not like the old jett dash, able to be used at any moment in any place. Chamber can use it at any moment. But only in a place that he has previously prepared. Meaning that the chamber player KNOWS that hes going to make a contact in THAT place. Not in any other place of the map. If the contact doesnt happen, them chamber has to relocate his tp. He cant instanly retreat in any situation like the old jett. He only can instanly retreat if he previously KNOWS that he HAS to retreat
@@rapkush They made his 8 point ult a normal ass op and hurt his ability to hold a site(which is the sole purpose of a sentinel)...doesn't sound like a balanced update to me. If the tp range was a little bigger, he got two traps, or they didn't make his ult a normal ass op; the rest of the nerfs would be more reasonable.
We’ll time to main kayo, chamber is kinda ruined now, his op is his ultimate bro, reducing it just to a normal op with 5 shots is just nothing, and don’t talk about the slow that shit was nerfed down in how big the circle is, how much it slows, and how long it lasts
Well basically only those are happy with nerfs of sage and chamber are those iron players who hates grim walls and just know rng and instalock bottomfraagers And hates chamber trick plays It's fr 🤷🏻🤷🏻
IMO This would've been fine if his TP wasn't basically gone for the rest of the round if destroyed. Given how restricted it is even with the range increase, that's just an overkill.
fr they nerfed chamver a little too much. Like yes he needed a nerf to his tp and his op but also destroying headhunter and the tp was too much. The whole reason for his tp was to hold the site and lock it by himself with his trap. Where as cypher and all just sets up traps and hides.
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actually while chamber's ult is slower now, his zoom speed is still faster than an operator
That's why it's his ultimate
why on earth is there a zoom speed in the first place. in cs it’s instantaneous when i transitioned to this game it felt so weird
@@impastaissus1522 so that the gun is more balanced obviously
@@cometken5 the guns in this game are relatively the same as cs, the awp in this game is more expensive and worst, but i guess movement speed in this game is much slower which makes the awp in valorant much easier to hit shots with so it trades off ig
@@impastaissus1522 yeah valorant is ez
They basically make him a "Sentinel" not a "Duelist"
he never really fit the duelist role. sentinels are really good at watching flanks and so happens that chamber being able to watch 2 angles is too good, but he doesnt have the duelist tools to make space for your team to entry
@@vichoe4589but he was quite well equipped to make the game 5v4 in defense.
@@vichoe4589 What is the difference between Dashing out of sight as Jett and TP out as Chamber?. His TP is even stronger here with wider range, you can literally push defender, kill one or two and TP out.
I think people mistake "Duelist" for "fragger". Chamber was pretty good at getting kills, that's what made him broken
@@vichoe4589 you probably too scared to do duelist things like entry and first pick
His tour de force definitely needed a slower fire rate but I don't believe it should've been reduced to a normal op fire rate. Maybe like in between what the old fire rate was & what an op fire rate is.
no
A free Op that enemies can't pick up with a slow field, what else do you need?
@@jarifahmed977 unlimited ammo, 100% accuracy while moving, aoe damage,and only 3 ult points. Other than that chamber will always be bad
@@dinonuggiesguy4847 this is literally every chamber main on the nerf videos
@@dinonuggiesguy4847 yeaaah...right
With all these nerfs they didn't need to destroy the tour de force fire rate instead of just reducing it a bit. And he can probably have his 2nd trap back now that he's finally properly balanced.
what are u talking about, he does have 2 traps,
@@arceus9125 No he does not
@@arceus9125 it's December 2022 not December 2021
@@arceus9125 well that's embarrassing lel
@@arceus9125 he DID have...
after all these nerfs, you'll still see that he's still a better awper than jett
Jett was never designed to be an awper. That was a secondary feature of His dash, Chamber Is fully designed to this prupose.
Lol jett is diff. Than chamber in every term. Also,his tp and reaction time is improved .
but jet is a better entry fragger than chamber
@@emparatrix3247 wow a duelist is a better entry fragger than a sentinel
@@diimmsszz wow a sentinel with a free op is a better oper than jett
with the nerf to everything on his kit, i think he should get the 2nd trap back at least. Also i think its kinda uncool to make his ult just a normal op (idk about balance).
@@thunderp1719 sorry to inform you, but **increased** time means it lasts "longer", so the equip is, in reality, a nerf.
@@thunderp1719 he cant anymore you cleary didnt understanf the update. He was able to equip his weapon quickly before but not anymore
Why? His ult was way too op
he does have 2 traps
The op is a free op, that can slow people, that can scope faster.
For pro play, that's still pretty broken.
Riot is seeing these through the highest potential.
If they are going to need him to actually become a sentinal then I think they should at least increase his trap count to 2
i am happy they didn't increased the cost for headhunters T_T
How'd you feel when they increased the cost for a while
That’s even better lmao. With the single anchor attacking will be a lot easier XD. During 1v1s Or clutch moments it’s really difficult to setup two anchors as you might die setting that up or Give away your position. (I’m a gold player but Ig It’s better for me at least in my ELO)
That's where the issue lies, he's a sentinel
@@SneakyMango Duelist*
@@Sw4p7777 Fragger*
@@0shiroro Ur rank?
Fr people think his tp was overpowered but it was only good for starting round peek. After that it was a lot of trouble to setup the 2nd time and risky too. Honestly they made it easy lmao
Being able to recall your trip might make up for the range limit, maybe
Yeah, but the 30 seconds cooldown timer after recalling the Trademark trap is still kind of an overkill. It feels like an eternity. They should decrease the cooldown timer, or have him carry 2 Trademark traps again like in his heydays.
@@Saeyvear he has 2 traps now, can use one and save other for later
@@arceus9125 cap
Chamber main let's cry together
Honestly i think i can still live with these chamber changes as a chamber main myself if he gets further nerfs i might need to chsnge mains
Once tp is destroyed he's over🥺
It's not like he's gonna make it happen. It still can be recalled even when out of vision. imagine being a cypher main am I right?
Bro as chamber main i recall my tp after everytime I tp out and after this I will recall it ASAP XD
But since it's 1 TP that you place hidden away from the enemy instead of 2, it's a lot harder to break it and shut it down. Chamber will just take it back immediately after he TPs. Definitely not an unreasonable change.
Do remember that there is no additional cooldown... So no awkward moment of oh shit i forgot to recall my tp...also mean tp every 30secs
the op is a bit weird because now tthe op is no longer actually special. it is just a money saver. you get a free op with 5 shots instead of having to buy one.
It still special, when you kill someone it made a slow field, that's a strong special feature. When you kill enemy who holding the spike, the other enemy players will be in difficult situation to take the spike out
@@itsCynos But the slow is reduced right in before patch i guess they should bring that back as they reduced it saying next bullet was fast to arrive now it takes time so the slow should be back
You also can't pick the op up which is a big thingf
@@drake_sebastian reduced yes but at least it's not removed , and his ability is still special because he can hold down a whole push , snipe the first guy , switch to your rifle and you can spray or burst anyone who tries to push through the slow. Plus utilities like molly are sooo much better when used with the slowfield, especially when the entry point is narrow, like bind.
@@pruthvirajshinde9991 but dude it fades away quite quickly
Idk about the fire rate.
While the other changes are understandable (you gotta admit he was busted). The fast op fire rate is what made chamber really fun. I wish they lowered the fire rate to a lesser degree, still making it faster than the usual op but still a bit slower than how it is now.
I think they could've kept the fire rate but remove the slow field that the op creates
I think the tp change was a bit overkill, but other than that and the trip having a 30s cooldown, the changes make sense.
nah the changes is very good for me
nah the slow field feels better as the main purpose of his op imo
They lowered the fire rate cause it deploys a slow field to block anyone else coming from behind while his sniper loads back ig
If you remove the slow field then its just an awp sure you can have a chance of getting a penta but if the enemy gets control of the site then youre not doing your job as a sentinel
welcome back chyper
He's basically an aggro killjoy now
Finally his trap like KJ, i thought if their didnt nerf Cham trap, they must Buff KJ trap like Cham, but OP Cham and TP is a huge nerf 😂😂
I feel like they should've kept the fire rate of the ult the same, or reduced it by just a little. Chamber now basically just has a normal op that cost a fuck-ton of ult points. Also i feel like chambers guns were really good for variation, cause there are only so many guns to choose from, and nerfing them... Is kind of a bad desicion.(i mean his headhunter stayed pretty much the same but...)
Is the update out now or not yet
I dont get the “removed TP activation height”
Ok the tp isnt that bad for some maps but with bind gone i doubt it will be very useful but i don't think so he's dead yet
Man hight limit taked out and big radius is something huge you don't realize it? There's a lot of places on the maps where you can take advantages of these both factor but ofc taking the other anchor is a huge nerf but we can't tell after we use the tp by ourselves on the game
changing my main now
Yea I’m not convinced this character isn’t good anymore. He still looks optimal when I play him in PBE
The trip was already fine itself
I honestly can't wait to play the new chamber
same even though i havent played him before
i dont even know if i have him unlocked
His ult is normal operator so why they call it ult?
So that op is basically between Marshall and OG OP
Yall forget how fast his op scope in still is
this is correct. Also horizon is a valorant player too??? based
dont change anything
Honestly I didn't really like the double anchor tp so the single tp is a buff in my eyes. Everything else tho...
it made him an actual sentinel as he was locked to a site, now hes just slightly worse pre-nerf jett
The double anchor is actually pretty busted for rotations.... Now he can escape and setup easily but the con is he cant tp across the map anymore which is a pretty big nerf
@@SynergyHD hes j been dumbed down to having the role that jett kind of had pre-nerf instead of his gamechanging abilities. i think they couldve just added more time to his anchors and slowed down the op speed, these really fat nerfs all coming out at once really bother me. they should just slowly nerf one item at a time and see how it affects the agent(s) rather than just deleting an agents kit. chambers basically the same as all the other tp/dash agents now with slightly differing numbers.
Ngl they shouldnt have nerfed the trap
Nah, they should just get rid of all of his abilities tbh.
The idea is to make cypher the only sentinel to have traps without range
Should’ve given him two traps and kept the nerfs
Me agree with shady scorpion
@@crusiazvickery1022 i see thanks
I can honestly say about chambers tp is actually pretty good AND bad in my opinion. As the range increased, though only one tp and don't know where to place it for cover. Recommended using tp for ONLY peek advantage or trying to get the orb.
Iam convinced that if Chamber pick rates doesn't drop much in next VCT.... They'll reduce tp range to 2m..Ult 1 bullet.. headhunter deals 50 damage to head...Traps takes 1 hour to detect enemies
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Thanks Riot 🥰
NAOOO, la ulti la super nerfearon es cierto que estaba rota pero porque le pusieron tanto slowness :C
Ya ni pa disparar todas las balas al final de ronda :(
trap restrictions makes no sense for sentinels
It was a duelist back then, when we had 2 duelists and a chamber i always said "oh we have 3 duelists" so the main chamber would complain about it and he would play like a sentinel just to show that its not duelist, he woulda die everytime becayse he dont got the skills to be a sentinel, it haves one sentinel then 3 duelists skills
Cant be a duelist when you can’t entry
@@kevinnguyen8631 how would chamber not able to entry when he would have a shield and the most powerfull pistol in the game in the first round and he would be able to get information from where the enemies are then tp back, and when he got the ult ya know, he would just kill everyone
@@tadashi1870 Nope. Walking into the site with full shields is something every agent does. Walking into the site and tping away doesn't create space because you lost the space you gained the instance you tp'd. Gathering information is an initiator's role not a duelist. This is why yoru is a duelist/initiator hybrid because of how his clone can gather information and his ult. Skye and Kayo can enter with their flashes making them a viable entry for triple initiator comps. Killing everyone with ult still doesn't mean he is a duelist because he still can't entry. Chamber is more of an awper/sentinel like how jett is a duelist/awper. Valorant players don't understand the roles and hybrid roles of agents which is why they always fail to play their agent and rank up. Immortal 2, Fatal, #dad. You are getting a perspective of an immortal 2 controller/innitiator main
I think chamber's trap is not a good option to be nerfed..
Hes a sentinel thats should have been buffed tho
Idk, have such information for whole match wherever you are, that feels busted to me. But i am new so idk what others have.
@@runek100 Cyphers the same, with bigger range and less sound and overall has 2 of 'em
@@chora3rd460 Oh right that bird dude or whatever, I never played him. But with him, I feel like thats all he has plus that camera. Chamber is busted in my opinion. But as I said, I dont know much.
I still believe this change is alright. Though i think the Trademark still needs a bit of balancing.
They cant put 2, cuz 2 Trademarks would still be equal to 3 sites that he can protect. He can be at mid and both trademarks are on say A and C (in Haven).
Keeping it at 1 means its... Well, okay I guess, but he definitely wouldnt be someone going forward anymore
According to Riot, Chamber is a Sentinel that puts his body in the line to defend site. So, one Trademark makes sense cause he himself is his second Trademark with a One Tap Gun and quick escape along with the deadliest weapon in the game, his Custom Sniper.
@@jarifahmed977 "deadiest weapon in the game" bro did you not look at the changes? It's literally a normal operator now. Even jett knives are better than the op
@@uviolin593 i won't really agree with that. The difference is Chamber's Tour De Force one shots even on body shots, Jett's knives however, DOESN'T. If you hit all your shots on head, sure I won't argue.
@@jarifahmed977 I do agree with you here. Thats why I said its okay i guess, considering i believe it might still need just a little more touch ups. Maybe a little bit bigger range, then again I think its fat already for the range before it deactivates xD
@@velionzavx7426 37 percent headshot rate
Bro that was too much
the trap is basically useless now
I feel the nerf to leg damage pretty much made his ult bland as hell.
It's not that bad now tbh, more of a sent now, cause that's what he is supposed to be
if u not in range of new teleporter u cant teleport?
yea
wait why did they nerf his only sentinel ability though ??
Because it was better than every every sentinel ability in the game
@@dumbozach And now it's worse than every sentinel ability in the game.
@@yourthoughtssuck yeah should’ve given him back his second trip
Riot forget tour de force its a op custom made soo its better then the normal op and the tp is useless on chamber because chamber needs to hold sites and the mark why
range
How about get the old tp of chamber and get the 2 back while reduce the range and remove the range limit of chamber mark
while reduce the range of the mark soo its useful
for defending sites
i see, chamber nerfs arent that much of a big deal afterall. As a chamber main, i hate it when the enemy chamber body spams me with headhunter when i invest time tapping head with it. I like the new tp too, just pick it up when sova has ult. The new ult saddened me a bit because it no longer is an ace machine unlike pre-nerf chamber. I also like the new trip when i can pick it up mid-round but can riot atleast give 2 trips instead of one again?
he has 2 traps
@@arceus9125 why are you all over the comments saying he has 2 traps
Why you hate body spam? If you are not good enough to hit hs fast enough, why would they not go for bodyshots?
Bruh the new chamber ult has like 8 ult points and in 8 you can prolly get enough money for an op💀
Much better
I can finally cru in joy. Holy fuck his ultimate was just too good. But the headhunter is now lol, truly you have to hunt the head now haha no more spamming on the face.
Behold, sentinel chamber not duelist chamber
bout time
yeap, i like this, i hate chamber supremacy
the headhunter should like sheriff, and ulti should like OP
thanks roti, you deserve my gratitude
yeah 8 points ult should be a normal OP while viper ult exists and sage can literally res people lol chamber haters are so funny
What would be reason to use headhunter? Use your head a little.
どう考えても元の連射速度おかしすぎるだろう改めて見るとwww
You have like 60 tiktokers streaming online with cheats on in public and no one can ban them
W no more Tour De Forcing a derank
chamber and viper gutted, new meta for the indian guy
R.I.P
People will still cry.
Chamber was my main I think I will change wtf is the idea of a range for trap and its gun is just a sherif now but 150 for ONE bullet they destroyed chamber...
So chamber Ult is just a normal Op for free, What is the point of that Riot??
Where are all guys that said that chamber was ok and doesn't need nerfs? Of course now don't say anything and probably getting nerfed again in a future bc tp/dashes make agents so much easy to play not the inverse.
Tbh, it isn’t that bad, the buffs are insane tho
The end of an era
Poor Chamber…the ultimate change is overkill for him.
Imho if think Chamber need to be “High Risk High Reward”.
The fire rate was right, but i would add a special feature to balance, the special ammo from tour de force must be only TWO, 1 loaded to the barrel and 1 to reload, and u can get the rest of bullets if u kills the enemies.
maybe I should start playing more valorant
What confuses me is, why all these nerfs at once?, He's been dominating for a while now, why just randomly drop a nerf to everything. Same with the cypher buffs, he's been dogshit for so long, then BAM they buffed literally everything on him?
They actually dropped a bunch of nerfs and buffs on a list of characters for some reason, but chamber got reworked the most
because they were working on a way to nerf him in a way that’s actually effective without making him useless
Chamber is becoming just Burning Trash but Riot is adding More Woods Over Fire 😥
bro thst ult nerf is the worst, now his ult is just a normal fucking op
This us too much for a chmbr main... Why the hell did they nerf the tp.. Ik the ult is broken but 😭😭😭
changes opinion
Tp : its fine
Head Hunter : its fine too
Op : kinda hate the change cause thats an ultimate it should be special but now its just boring
Thank goodness they finally got rid of the marshal op 🎉
It would be fun *IF* the tp had infinite range, like you put it down in one spot and can tp any time. Kinda like yoru but less mobile. I think the 13 meter is too restricting and can't really get you out of many situations. The range limit on the trap is also a bit unnecessary, and the ult fire rate change made it absolutely horrible. Chamber ult is now just a normal op with the annoying slow field. It isn't fun for anyone now because they decreased the fire rate, which was the fun part of it.
Why tf would the tp have infinite range lmao
Chamber was too O.P
it makes the game balanced.
whats the point of picking another sentinels when u have chamber, these nerfs are great
@@pshshepl just a thought, ofc that would be too overpowered. I just figured it would be a fun concept.
@@alk4n3 Chamber isn't the best sentinel and never was. Chamber can't lock down a site by himself and never really could. All sentinels had their own gimmicks, like Chamber's tp and guns, Sage's heals and wall, Killjoy's turret and swarms, and Cypher's camera and cages. They all have different skill sets, so you can't say that Chamber is a better sentinel because he is very different from the other sentinels.
They should have never removed Chamber's double trap, and should have implemented that range like KJ for both of his traps. It doesn't make any sense, Cypher has 2 Trip Wires, KJ mains can use an alarm bot and her turret to to watch flank, or alert if someone's lurking, but chamber has only one trap and that too is now has an specific range, lol. 😂😂
But chamber have pocket guardian thats enough to kill flanker
He fulfils a different role as a sentinel as compared to the others. Cypher is an information gatherer with no offensive abilities , kj is very well suited for holding one site along with the flanks of that site, whereas chamber is an aggressive sentinel specialising in taking space and moving around flexibly so it makes sense to only give him one trip as he's not supposed to be the one holding flank everywhere
If every sentinel is about flank watch traps then it would be a pain in the axx to balance them
Cypher's trap only hold 1 person so that is a maximum of 2 person held(both trips tripped) meanwhile chamber can literally affect the whole team effectively holding 2 sites
@@nubbe8986 Not with the range nerfs he isn't.
His tp already wasn't the best with the lingering hit box, making it one tp instead of2 really nerfed his site set ups
Or they buffed it? Instead of thinking for a tp setup you can use your tp on a creative ways and take the advantage of a big radius and hight limits is taked out there's a lot of places on some maps where you can take the advantage of hight limits of your tp and big radius and on mean time tp to safety
@@Mr_X64no i cant set up 2 angles now. Now its just an escape mechanism.
@@yhwach1 it's still usable and still same tp speed and radius increase is something huge on attack
Now Chamber can't say perfect again
"If u cannot call urself ronaldo might as well work in mcdonaldo" - Sun Tzu
Tbh, he's still strong.
They can never truly balance him without completely GUTTING the idea of him.
The core principle of chamber is being able to take a low risk fight when your tp cd is down.
Everything supports this idea.
The core reason why he's so strong is the instantaneous retreat, allowing him to effectively play contact and second engage or even for retake after first contact.
To balance chamber requires one change; it is to make his teleport be a prepped action like Jett.
If they did that, chamber would lose his identity and his play rate would crash.
I don't see this nerf being overall significant but it does limit his power quite a bit and that trap nerf is unessicary, riot has no ideas how to make him balanced without gutting his kit... And I don't envy the conundrum they've put themselves in.
But chamber TP is a prepped action.
Its not like the old jett dash, able to be used at any moment in any place.
Chamber can use it at any moment. But only in a place that he has previously prepared. Meaning that the chamber player KNOWS that hes going to make a contact in THAT place. Not in any other place of the map.
If the contact doesnt happen, them chamber has to relocate his tp. He cant instanly retreat in any situation like the old jett. He only can instanly retreat if he previously KNOWS that he HAS to retreat
It took too long but this day has finally arrived
the ultimate nerf was so hard
2 trips and we can call it balanced. Doesnt really fit the sentinel role anymore. Hes just awkwardly there in comparison to the othet sentinels
That was my main agent now it’s dogshit
you spelled "fair" wrong.
@@rapkush huh..I didnt know that
just play jett lol
@@donut9600 idk how 😢😭
@@rapkush They made his 8 point ult a normal ass op and hurt his ability to hold a site(which is the sole purpose of a sentinel)...doesn't sound like a balanced update to me. If the tp range was a little bigger, he got two traps, or they didn't make his ult a normal ass op; the rest of the nerfs would be more reasonable.
duelist->sentinel
1shot marshal->operator
guardian->sherif
Its still a gaurdian lmao
We’ll time to main kayo, chamber is kinda ruined now, his op is his ultimate bro, reducing it just to a normal op with 5 shots is just nothing, and don’t talk about the slow that shit was nerfed down in how big the circle is, how much it slows, and how long it lasts
I think chamber ult should have a timer and the timer resets when he gets a kill (maybe 15 seconds)
Well basically only those are happy with nerfs of sage and chamber are those iron players who hates grim walls and just know rng and instalock bottomfraagers
And hates chamber trick plays
It's fr 🤷🏻🤷🏻
Finally he hopefully falls out off the meta. I am tiered to play against Chambers.
RIP chamber, nerf every fucking ability wtf
IMO This would've been fine if his TP wasn't basically gone for the rest of the round if destroyed. Given how restricted it is even with the range increase, that's just an overkill.
fr they nerfed chamver a little too much. Like yes he needed a nerf to his tp and his op but also destroying headhunter and the tp was too much. The whole reason for his tp was to hold the site and lock it by himself with his trap. Where as cypher and all just sets up traps and hides.
Its a good mechanic. Recall or you loose it. They did not need to touch the trap imo.
As a player who find chamber the most annoying agent, this is a big win for me.
why do they have to nerf my boy like that
wut about feenix T-T, we need feenix back D:
Old sniper [Tour de Force] is the best same has marshal experience now s#!t experience so bad as an operator my opinion anybody agree with me XD.
Why always chamber??????? Big nerf
Ok cypher is good now
They killed him lmao. Plus now his trademark is litterally the same as a killjoy alarmbot.
Literally hmm
kjs alarmbot is better since it gives vulnerability to multiple enemies once exploded
@@downwitthe1876 Her bot is also stealth so it has a higher chance of catching them in it.
good changes
a real sentinel
RIP Chamber
Still easily the best agent