Stephen Hicks on Postmodernism Part 1

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
  • Are truth, knowledge, and objective reality dead?
    Postmodernism became the leading intellectual movement in the late twentieth century. It has replaced modernism, the philosophy of the Enlightenment. For modernism’s principles of objective reality, reason, and individualism, it has substituted its own precepts of relative feeling, social construction, and groupism. This substitution has now spread to major cultural institutions such as education, journalism, and the law, where it manifests itself as race and gender politics, advocacy journalism, political correctness, multiculturalism, and the rejection of science and technology.
    At the 1998 Summer Seminar of the Institute for Objectivist Studies (now called The Atlas Society), Dr. Hicks offered a systematic analysis and dissection of the Postmodernist movement and outlined the core Objectivist tenets needed to rejuvenate the Enlightenment spirit.
    Watch Part 2 here: • Stephen Hicks on Postm...
    ABOUT STEPHEN HICKS:
    Stephen Hicks is a Canadian-American philosopher who teaches at Rockford University, where he also directs the Center for Ethics and Entrepreneurship. Hicks earned his B.A. and M.A. degrees from the University of Guelph, Canada, and his Ph.D. from Indiana University, Bloomington. His doctoral thesis was a defense of foundationalism.
    Hicks is the author of two books and a documentary. "Explaining Postmodernism: Skepticism and Socialism from Rousseau to Foucault." He argues that postmodernism is best understood as a rhetorical strategy of intellectuals and academics on the far-Left of the political spectrum to the failure of socialism and communism.
    His documentary and book "Nietzsche and the Nazis" is an examination of the ideological and philosophical roots of National Socialism, particularly how Friedrich Nietzsche's ideas were used, and in some cases misused, by Adolf Hitler and the Nazis to justify their beliefs and practices. This was released in 2006 as a video documentary and then in 2010 as a book.
    Additionally, Hicks has published articles and essays on a range of subjects, including free speech in academia, the history and development of modern art, Ayn Rand's Objectivism, business ethics, and the philosophy of education, including a series of RUclips lectures.
    Hicks is also the co-editor, with David Kelley, of a critical thinking textbook, "The Art of Reasoning: Readings for Logical Analysis."

Комментарии • 821

  • @DarthAlphaTheGreat
    @DarthAlphaTheGreat 8 лет назад +305

    When I hear "contradictotions are normal", I actually hear "War is peace; freedom is slavery; Ignorance is Strength"

    • @Wingedmagician
      @Wingedmagician 7 лет назад +17

      I dont think thats right. Contradictions are normal in different levels
      of resolution or organization. Think about the micro and macro of physics... how the data you get from one level seems to contradict the data you get from the other. Thats just a symptom of our limited (not nonexistent) tools for knowing reality.

    • @DarthAlphaTheGreat
      @DarthAlphaTheGreat 7 лет назад +15

      Micro and Macro Physics are not contradictory---in fact all current models made SURE that they are not. The current model would work for BOTH micro and macro provided the correct data is inputted up to probability.
      A model can only truly be self-contradictory when it predicts the motion of the micro perfectly but the macro COMPLETELY wrong (or vice versa). That's what a contradiction means.
      Also contradictions are NOT normal in life---unintuitive perhaps, but there is always a reason and when it comes down to it, it correctly reflects reality and evidence. Unintuitive != contradiction, contradiction means if it happens the other is IMPOSSIBLE.
      Like War is Peace---those words by definition are not the same, so while you can spin it however you like (see 1984), it is just a spin you cannot change the reality (of meaning of words) that they mean different things that is fundamentally incompatible---under ANY level of intellect---unless you go through with doublethink (see 1984 again).

    • @Wingedmagician
      @Wingedmagician 7 лет назад +8

      Thanks for responding. I recently read 1984 too and it really hit me
      hard when Winston was being... I dont know... reeducated? But I still
      want to be very careful with that kind of Aristotelian "2+2=4" (if you
      will lol). When it comes to math and science its more reasonable! yes
      thank you and I dont know anything much about physics so excuse me on
      that bad example. but other ways of "knowing" or "moving" in the world
      are not so clear cut and free from paradox or contradiction.

    • @greywinters4801
      @greywinters4801 7 лет назад +6

      Do you mean moral objectivity, promoted by the deranged post modernist Mao Zedong

    • @DarthAlphaTheGreat
      @DarthAlphaTheGreat 7 лет назад +3

      Moral objectives do not exist. There are always BETTER morals depending on situations and need of society. If there is any "objective moral" it would be one that is based on what is beneficial to individuals and at large societies in the long run. That's why moralities change.
      Mao is NOT a post modernist. He believed in the superiority of rigor and structure, analyzes battle tactics. He believes HIS version of morality is absolute and all who opposes is wrong. Cultural relativism is NOT a thing in Mao's eyes, there is only ONE true and good ideology, and that is communism. You are an idiot to consider Mao a post-modernist. He is a modernist.
      But modernist doesn't make you a good person---you can be rigor and principled on a crazy idea. Post-modernism has 90% flaws but it also have a few good points, and why people gets persuaded.

  • @extranolugar4588
    @extranolugar4588 4 года назад +35

    I love this presentation - the current culture war now makes perfect sense. Supporters of the Enlightenment have a lot to lose.

    • @LetsGo6009
      @LetsGo6009 2 года назад +1

      So do the anti-Enlightenments, they just don’t know it

  • @MarkHill45
    @MarkHill45 6 лет назад +22

    Thank you doctor Hicks. I started to wake up a couple years ago and my life now is a million times better. I give you some credit for it.

  • @thadtuiol1717
    @thadtuiol1717 4 года назад +22

    Holy crap, he gave this speech way back in 1998! It's 22 years later, and the chickens have really come home to roost.

  • @BillM1960
    @BillM1960 7 лет назад +120

    I wish they published the slides.

    • @bdff4007
      @bdff4007 4 года назад +3

      With Jackie Vernon narrating with his clicker in hand?

    • @DYKWINNING
      @DYKWINNING 4 года назад +9

      Steven hicks postmodern presentation- 2018:
      ruclips.net/video/-BGbHG63x8w/видео.html

    • @andrewmichaelschaefferXIV
      @andrewmichaelschaefferXIV 4 года назад +6

      Giggles
      A postmodernist cannot objectively "publish" both sides.
      I'm neither a Modernist or Postmodernist but I thought he did a good job.

    • @andrewmichaelschaefferXIV
      @andrewmichaelschaefferXIV 3 года назад +1

      @Richard Martinez (it appears I read the original comment incorrectly)
      Slides / sides
      Oops
      I prefer Perennialist or Traditionalist
      Thank you.

    • @andrewmichaelschaefferXIV
      @andrewmichaelschaefferXIV 3 года назад +2

      @Richard Martinez thank you sir

  • @daverosenthal3975
    @daverosenthal3975 4 года назад +11

    What an excellent lecture - clear, structured, and logical

  • @joelb9921
    @joelb9921 3 года назад +6

    It’s great to hear how civil the question period is at the end, even tho most of the questions came from people who disagreed with him

  • @Chamindo7
    @Chamindo7 4 года назад +42

    Critical thinking is so rare these days. Refreshing like cool water in a dry wasteland. Thank you for the excellent upload.

    • @susanmcdonald9088
      @susanmcdonald9088 4 года назад +1

      Lol, how can we return to a past age? Reason got us this far. But his Alt-Right agenda is clear. Try Dr. Steven Goldman, "what scientists know"... Linus Pauling lecture, and teaching company, Dr. Rick Roderick, "Self Under Siege" #8! Explains post-modern trajectory, that got us TRUMP, lol

    • @keegster7167
      @keegster7167 3 года назад

      @@susanmcdonald9088 Interesting. I’ll check out Goldman.
      Btw are you referencing “Reason” as defined by Plato? Bc yes, that doesn’t get anyone very far. But Hume’s skeptical reason? Heidegger’s mystical reason? Wittgenstein’s semantic? Ferdinand de Saussure’s historicolinguistic? They’re often referenced by Postmodernists but I think they’re the actual few moderate skeptics that have existed since Cicero and have been overcoming postmodernists and similar people. I guess that’s a metanarrative to be skeptical of, tho.

  • @paulharris3000
    @paulharris3000 6 лет назад +4

    We cannot know reality by reason or experience, but CONSEQUENCE always looms, offering us glimpses of reality...

    • @adamuadamu5081
      @adamuadamu5081 4 месяца назад

      Effectiveness is the measure of truth

  • @ThompsonDB
    @ThompsonDB 6 лет назад +67

    To suggest our senses may not fully comprehend the completeness of reality is logical to me, but to suggest that they have absolutely no relation to true reality, despite us having emerged from and existing in that reality, is a non-sequitur for me.

    • @coinswaptrader2915
      @coinswaptrader2915 3 года назад +1

      our ears and eyes can only see 1% of the electromagnetic spectrum...like looking through a key hole and thinking you clearly see inside the other room!

    • @bigboy2217
      @bigboy2217 3 года назад +10

      CoinSwapTrader the real reason it doesn’t matter is because it has zero utility. We exist on the visible spectrum, and filter out most of what we could see. The only useful forward movement involves us solving problems by presupposing things. You could sit around and be hyper skeptical all fucking day and you’d just die. That’s all the post modernists are. An aesthetic group of new wave skeptics thinking they are revolutionary for rebranding “there is no objective truth” onto language. You don’t even need to involve language for their beliefs as far as I can tell. Just say we can’t prove our experience maps onto reality. After that point why even care about all the language games. We are all going to keep behaving as if language represents reality anyway, who the fuck cares?

    • @franciscomap75
      @franciscomap75 3 года назад +5

      @@bigboy2217 good response.

    • @JS-dt1tn
      @JS-dt1tn 2 года назад +1

      @@bigboy2217 man, its a shame that you think that is the entire project of postmodern thought. Nevermind the fact that your synopsis is an absurd reduction.

    • @Weirdomanification
      @Weirdomanification 2 года назад +3

      @@JS-dt1tn Which stems from the reality that Postmodernism itself is an absurd reduction.

  • @Wingedmagician
    @Wingedmagician 7 лет назад +181

    I here because of Jordan Peterson

    • @mbw6785
      @mbw6785 7 лет назад +4

      Rob Vel me too

    • @temujinthekhan6233
      @temujinthekhan6233 7 лет назад +2

      same

    • @gregnyquist7714
      @gregnyquist7714 7 лет назад +24

      Same as well. However, after listening to this part of Hicks' lecture, I'm rather puzzled about Dr. Peterson's recommendation. Hicks is obviously smart and well spoken, but his little sketches of the philosophers he regards as forbears of post-modernism are deeply flawed, riddled with exaggerations and misinterpretations. Take Kant for example. While it is true that there are many very serious problems in Kant's philosophy, HIcks' treatment is little more than a travesty. Kant's "Critique of Pure Reason" is not an attack on rationality or science or even "reason." No, it's an attack (admittedly, a rather confused and pedantic attack) on the rationalistic metaphysics of the scholastics and the followers of Leibnitz. Kant had been awoken from his rationalistic "dogmatic slumber" by David Hume's "Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding," an incendiary attack against rationalistic speculation and "school metaphysics." While Kant agreed with Hume's criticisms of metaphysics, he had qualms about Hume's wholesale attack on rationalism. In the "Critique" Kant attempted to describe the "limits" of reason, that is, where reasoning was important for discovering truth (e.g., Kant's categories) and where it had serious shortcomings (e.g., speculative metaphysics). HIcks ignores these distinctions and turns Kant into an enemy of reason and reality. That's not fair or just. If you want to condemn a philosopher, you need to condemn them for what they actually believe, not for what you mistakenly think they believe.
      Similar remarks could be made about many of the other philosophers Hicks talks about, including Hegel, Schopenhauer, and Nietzsche. Hicks understanding of these thinkers is rather superficial, and his remarks about them, even when they contain an element of truth, are hyperbolic and partly false. I get the sense that Hicks has not really read these men; or if he has, he has not understood what he's read. His narrative seems to be driven by an agenda, rather than an all-consuming determination to be veracious and fair. It seems to me this is the wrong way to go about attacking postmodernism. How can Hicks criticize a belief system that denies the very possibility of honest and fair interpretation when he himself is not veracious or fair?

    • @Somniostatic
      @Somniostatic 7 лет назад +8

      Greg Nyquist -- It's sad that people like us, who actually learned about these philosophers, are so fucking disappointed with stuff like this. Because, there's like.... 3 of us left.

    • @antonioj123
      @antonioj123 7 лет назад +7

      Just beginning to realize now that the Hicks, Harris, and Petersons are just creating grand narratives.

  • @Hank520Tube
    @Hank520Tube 7 лет назад +15

    Hearing words from Kant, like 'one can not know reality by using reason', or questions like 'why does existence exist' is what made me stop taking philosophy classes. But I must say, I truly enjoyed this lecture, really an explanation, by Stephen Hicks. Thanks for posting, Atlas Society.

  • @flypig698
    @flypig698 6 лет назад +224

    Postmodernists are like film critics, they point out flaws based on their view, but the act of making a better movie is not part of their skill set, in fact whenever they do try it mostly fails.

    • @SteelyDanimal
      @SteelyDanimal 5 лет назад +3

      Sohail Uppal amen

    • @dodorus966
      @dodorus966 5 лет назад +12

      And here is you, criticizing post-modernism without offering an alternative. :)

    • @zxyatiywariii8
      @zxyatiywariii8 5 лет назад +28

      I think it's because Post-Modernism isn't about creation, it's about deconstruction. In that way, it's effective like a bomb.
      But wanton destruction is always easier than creation. Like when an over-tired toddler takes two minutes to smash down the beautifully-constructed sand castle that his/her older sibling spent all afternoon building and decorating.
      Obviously the older child always knew their creation would disappear with the tide; but there's something malicious and envious about ADULTS trying to destroy creative works and IPs that they, themselves, don't have the skill to create.
      Like with the author Amélie Wen Zhao, whose new book (which is sci-fi/fantasy) was excoriated and even temporarily cancelled, because she's not African-American and therefore she doesn't have the "right" to write a story with slavery in it (as if China never had slavery!)
      I wish people would see how vindictive and irrational Post-Modernism is; because rationality is what we need most of all nowadays -- not tribalism, not the Progressive Stack which pits groups of people against each other when we most need to be working _together_ to solve problems. 🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631
      @kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 5 лет назад +5

      Sohail Uppal postmodernists are cultural Marxist

    • @kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631
      @kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 5 лет назад +4

      Dodorus destroy cultural cultural marxism

  • @andrewdett
    @andrewdett 9 лет назад +3

    Thanks for posting this new series of videos; very thought provoking.

  • @pkassies
    @pkassies 6 лет назад +5

    I've listned to the lecture of Stephen Hicks twice now. The first part is a history on filosophy and how they are the pre-cursor to Post-modernism. This is a great perspective for a filosophy noob like me.
    I like his analogy between decline of religion and decline of socialism, and the subsequent ways how filosophers deal with the conflict of their reasoning and the reality.
    Second part is all about the concepts that make up Post-modernism thinking and its way of argumentation. Listen until the end, where Hicks argues that PM won't be around for long, since it lacks substance.

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman 5 лет назад

      So we can disregard the origins of our culture, our language and the tools we use to make sense of reality?
      We can just make up how we spell words as we go along, based upon how we are feeling?
      That's very Post Modern of you, how clever.
      Now, why should anyone place store in what you say?
      You clearly want to refute the foundations of our common understanding and childishly assume the petulant stance of a teenager on the spelling of the very word at the core of this discussion.
      How kool daddy oh!

  • @nickcarter4006
    @nickcarter4006 7 месяцев назад +1

    “Postmodernism has replaced the concepts of objective reality, reason and individualism with relative feeling, social construction and groupism. And we like that, groupism. They say I’m a groupist, the greatest groupist they’ve ever seen. Nobody groups like I group! I’m a big time grouper, big time! Objective reality, who wants that? Get it the hell out of here!!!”

  • @dragonflydroneservices1021
    @dragonflydroneservices1021 4 месяца назад +1

    Gratitude.

  • @skyazrael5487
    @skyazrael5487 2 года назад +5

    Excellent lesson. Now I understand.

  • @1polonium210
    @1polonium210 3 года назад +5

    Outstanding presentation!

  • @Davidlee37101
    @Davidlee37101 7 лет назад +22

    Could the human species have survived if instead of using reason and learning about how plants respond to the environment thereby introducing the concept of agricultural increasing food production, the pondered about how the plants feel, how i feel etc.

    • @flypig698
      @flypig698 6 лет назад +3

      you my friend have run into the pseudoscience of Lysenkoism.

    • @MANTARD
      @MANTARD 5 лет назад +1

      Survived? No doubt about it. Ancient hunter/gatherer societies thrived on their extremely intimate knowledge of how, when, and where plants grew.

  • @M4ruta
    @M4ruta 6 лет назад +45

    As much as I love this lecture, this part really seemed absurd to me:
    33:58: "Hegel loved to capitalize Reason, it was always 'Reason' with a capital 'R'."
    Hegel wrote his books in German, a language in which nouns are always capitalized.

    • @Legionary42
      @Legionary42 5 лет назад +6

      Frаnк interesting, I took a look and it appears many translators of his work capitalize that word for him in their translations for emphasis.

    • @marumakoto
      @marumakoto 4 года назад +2

      He (Stephen) used the "capital R" as an expression of emphasis.

    • @scottcoston7832
      @scottcoston7832 4 года назад +3

      German nouns also have a masculine, feminine, or neuter association(der, die, das). It’s more of a style than a deep meaning type of thing. BTW, if you live in America it should have been Das wienerschnitzel, not Der... still had good hotdogs.

    • @Individual_Lives_Matter
      @Individual_Lives_Matter 4 года назад

      I had a philosophy professor who translated Hegel, Lacan and other ‘continental’ philosophers. He had handouts (written by others) referring to capitalization of certain words in Hegel. I think there must be something to it because this guy loved Hegel.

    • @danielbergmann7353
      @danielbergmann7353 4 года назад +1

      Deconstructing this joke is very german😁

  • @NotesfromaFailedComedian
    @NotesfromaFailedComedian 6 лет назад +7

    Thank you for posting this! I wish the visuals weren't lost to the ages

    • @KellyGerling
      @KellyGerling 4 года назад +1

      www.stephenhicks.org/2013/10/28/defining-modernism-and-postmodernism-chart/

  • @stevenleejobe
    @stevenleejobe 4 года назад +6

    I’ve read Hicks’ book on postmodernism. These videos are a nice refresher. You have to be at the top of your game to debate these post modern clowns because they have the tenor of the culture and the disposition of the times on their side. It’s just so easy to lay back and be “woke.”

    • @jeffmaehre7150
      @jeffmaehre7150 4 года назад +4

      Hicks as at the bottom of his field. He publishes on illegitimate or at lest disreputable publishing houses.
      He doesn't understand medieval thought, the work of Immanuel Kant, modernism, and certainly not post-modern thought. His reading comprehension skills are questionable.

    • @stevenleejobe
      @stevenleejobe 4 года назад +2

      @@jeffmaehre7150 Noted. I've seen a fair amount of criticism of what Hicks has said and written to the point where I'm looking into post-modernism myself, maybe get some of this figured out. But even though he may have made mistakes or was sloppy about this or that, I still agree with his assessment of what's going in in academia and the culture at large. Meanwhile, what credentials do you bring to the table? Who would you recommend I read?

  • @donaldclifford5763
    @donaldclifford5763 3 года назад +3

    Refreshing summary. Thank you.

  • @webmelomaniac
    @webmelomaniac 4 года назад +3

    Fascinating! Look forward to listening to part 2

  • @jamesbenchia3163
    @jamesbenchia3163 7 лет назад +46

    I think Kant and Kierkegaard would horrified by post modernism - which is a philosophic cancer.

    • @hanant6592
      @hanant6592 6 лет назад +8

      James Benchia why do you think that? Postmodernism is an extension to the Skepticism that Kant pointed to in his philosophy. Even many considered both philosophers among the first generation of postmodernism.

    • @yodrewyt
      @yodrewyt 4 года назад +1

      If so, then would they recant? Haha

    • @couldbe8348
      @couldbe8348 4 года назад

      Why is it a cancer? What the hell is an "objective truth?"

    • @elliotthovanetz1945
      @elliotthovanetz1945 4 года назад +4

      @@couldbe8348 gravity is an objective truth. Or, if you think it's all in your head, just jump out a 20 story bldg. and see what happens... Maybe your 'truth' is you'd grow wings and fly?

    • @portapotty69
      @portapotty69 4 года назад +6

      Perhaps they would be horrified by the fact they are counted among the godfathers of postmodernism. They couldn't have imagined their ideas evolving into the situation we have today. If a time-traveller showed Kant or Kierkegaard a montage of video clips of the modern Academy melting down, and explained that these toxic ideas trace their pedigree back to them, I'm sure either man would reasonably be horrified.

  • @Havre_Chithra
    @Havre_Chithra 4 года назад +4

    I've had the intense experience of having read Nieztche for the past 4 years. I haven't really read anyone more recent than Nietzsche to much degree, although I am acquainted with a few. I've taken what Nietzsche has said and have been actively trying to work it into my life, work out my own meaning, my our purpose, my own values - as much as I really can. Anyways, over the past year my life underwent a near total demolishion - my sense of identity was shattered much in the same way as when one loses their religion. I spiraled into nihilism! I began tearing it all down, destroying and making way for something new!
    Now that I'm in the process of rebuilding, I've been writing a lot. What amazes me is, writing in my own accord (in notes on my phone) I have managed to arrive at many of these conclusions. It feels so much more satisfying doing it more or less in my own, in my own way, than it does going to school and sitting in a lecture... Doing it my way, I can really live and learn.

  • @ryanjames2673
    @ryanjames2673 5 лет назад +4

    Amazing videos. Thank you for the invaluable information.

  • @JoshuaFinancialPL
    @JoshuaFinancialPL 4 года назад +3

    GREAT lectures. Great channel. Well done!

  • @andrewmichaelschaefferXIV
    @andrewmichaelschaefferXIV 4 года назад +4

    An excellent survey of our contemporary quagmire of ideas!
    Thank you for this upload.

    • @Sportinglogic
      @Sportinglogic 3 года назад

      There is no quagmire of ideas, merely a lack of intellectual rigour.

  • @ProudlyIndian-
    @ProudlyIndian- 3 года назад +3

    Truly Enlightening.

  • @DrEnginerd1
    @DrEnginerd1 8 лет назад +71

    This guy is awesome, I need more Stephen hicks videos!

    • @elainesiu8843
      @elainesiu8843 6 лет назад

      Cameron Believe

    • @tuckerchris1111
      @tuckerchris1111 6 лет назад

      you nerd!

    • @peterhunt135
      @peterhunt135 5 лет назад +1

      look at his "Explaining Postmodernism" -- it has charts for one

    • @davidlloyd-jones8519
      @davidlloyd-jones8519 3 года назад

      sounds like a nutter. Yes the western model needs to be careful, maybe like a parent to a child and even humble.
      But to dismiss gravity for example and magnetism as if they were simply products of a male hierarchy and a wesern social construct is just insane

  • @kellivanbonn4692
    @kellivanbonn4692 4 года назад +44

    Get rid of all individuals what's left? Nothing. Get rid of all groups, what's left? Individuals. Individuals are the fundamental unit, not groups.

    • @johnnycrash5130
      @johnnycrash5130 4 года назад

      from where individuals emerge? they're conceptualisations of ideas that could be raised in that symbolic space.

    • @DWinegarden2
      @DWinegarden2 4 года назад

      Groups are made up of individuals thinking in different directions, reaching different conclusions, no?

    • @Slu54
      @Slu54 4 года назад +1

      @@johnnycrash5130 That's a pretty post-modernist thing to say. I think if anything is intuitive, the understanding of what an individual is probably ranks pretty high. To know who you are and where you end and where others begin is about as intuitive as knowing that the sky is blue or the sun rises from the east. To be productive, or to achieve some end, you should probably pick some essential things most can live with and proceed from there by reason. But again the purpose of postmodernism seems to be to challenge these essential things, which is fine, but to what end? It seems to be a purely intellectual exercise that for whatever reason folks are now trying to bring into the realm of practical matters like economics or politics. At least they have left the hard sciences alone, for now.

    • @coinswaptrader2915
      @coinswaptrader2915 3 года назад +1

      exactly...groups are fictions where soulless individuals vicariously are able to feel connected and alive through the hive collective!

    • @vermin5367
      @vermin5367 3 года назад

      @@Slu54 science is just the process of eliminating concepts that fit our narrow narrative of the universe, current science could be all wrong for all we know, after all, science can't be verified it can only be reinforced with what we think we know.
      - Post modern gang

  • @Rhygenix
    @Rhygenix 6 лет назад +42

    Post-Modernism is modern-day sophism

    • @fubaralakbar6800
      @fubaralakbar6800 4 года назад

      Leftists: "Technology is trying to conquer nature and will destroy the planet!"
      Also leftists: "Here, have a condom."

    • @mathewhale3581
      @mathewhale3581 4 года назад

      Yeah. I see it as the emperors new clothes.
      Only those smart and sophisticated enough (ie university educated) will understand the sophism involved. It’s a great wanky argument to prove your superiority by using bullshit to baffle, browbeat and belittle the uneducated (non university). It takes naivety to see past the lie.
      As Voltaire wrote “ those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities”.

    • @iain5615
      @iain5615 4 года назад

      No it is not. It is malicious nihilistic warfare against a society that these people detest and want to destroy. Sophism was never so nihilistic.

    • @Rhygenix
      @Rhygenix 4 года назад

      @@iain5615 Have you read hicks book?

    • @iain5615
      @iain5615 4 года назад +1

      @@Rhygenix no but I know what Sophism was and what post modernism is. The sophists were not nihilistic. They might not have liked the social hierarchy but were not hateful of every aspect and did not seek destruction for the sake of destruction driven by hatred.

  • @fordtoy2000
    @fordtoy2000 7 лет назад +11

    Very stimulating. Thank you for sharing. I can't wait to listen to part 2 tomorrow or when I get time. Sounds like you have fans there, and I suppose it helps but it is a little political when that is the case, in my opinion. My unbiased response is that I am glad I spent the last hour listening. Again, thanks for presenting.

    • @jeffmaehre7150
      @jeffmaehre7150 4 года назад +2

      You should learn about modernism and various schools of philosophical thought.

  • @pendejo6466
    @pendejo6466 7 лет назад +27

    Would have been nice to see the charts and graphs that he's referring to and using in his presentation. But hey, thanks for the upload.

    • @KellyGerling
      @KellyGerling 4 года назад +4

      www.stephenhicks.org/2013/10/28/defining-modernism-and-postmodernism-chart/

    • @EmperorsNewWardrobe
      @EmperorsNewWardrobe 4 года назад +1

      Kelly Gerling, thanks. Snapshotted

  • @northwestpsychfest7329
    @northwestpsychfest7329 3 года назад

    Post modernism is an evaluation and critique of modernism... nothing more, nothing less. Overstating its impact is ridiculous

  • @susanmcdonald9088
    @susanmcdonald9088 4 года назад +2

    I also think the only way we can even do history at all, philosophical or otherwise, is because human nature has not changed on iota. If true, the ancient Greek dramatic author, Eripedes, 4th century BC, tells us all we need to know in his tragedies. Between Reason & Emotion, the latter wins, every time!

  • @paulharris3000
    @paulharris3000 6 лет назад +33

    @49:00 - Imagine even suggesting to a mafia loanshark that the money you owe him is merely a construct of a subjective system with no access to reality...:):):)

    • @spindoctor6385
      @spindoctor6385 4 года назад +5

      Haha I know I am 2 years late replying but the Mafia man may suggest that your left leg is just a social construct with no more access to the rest of your body.

    • @coinswaptrader2915
      @coinswaptrader2915 3 года назад

      he'd introduce you to his baseball bat to wake you up to some reality

    • @natbrownizzle3815
      @natbrownizzle3815 3 года назад

      @@spindoctor6385 Jordan B Peterson said once and I am paraphrasing "Postmodernists, do not believe in objective truth, yetthey all died" XD

  • @TheChristianAtheist
    @TheChristianAtheist 3 года назад

    What do YOU think? View The Christian Atheist playlist on RUclips here
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    It is our mission to uncover and speak TRUTH in the pursuit of meaning, no matter where that takes us.
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    • @jameseverett4976
      @jameseverett4976 4 месяца назад

      The Christian Atheist? - seriously? What does that even mean? Or is it a deliberate contradiction for the sake of mind games? Like "the dry blue ocean waves..." or "the believing, trusting skeptic".

  • @mariconvongerm3269
    @mariconvongerm3269 3 года назад +1

    One hour of citation needed.

  • @sgt7
    @sgt7 Год назад +8

    Non postmodernists typically explain postmodernism more clearly than postmodernists do.

    • @11kravitzn
      @11kravitzn Год назад +1

      By strawmanning it

    • @sgt7
      @sgt7 Год назад

      @@11kravitzn really? In what way?

    • @11kravitzn
      @11kravitzn Год назад +1

      @@sgt7
      Postmodernism isn't just Marxism in disguise, for example, as Hicks argues

    • @Faeron1984
      @Faeron1984 Год назад

      ​@@11kravitznWhy not?

    • @11kravitzn
      @11kravitzn Год назад

      @@Faeron1984 Nietzsche was an early postmodernist (maybe a pre-postmodernist) and he was not a Marxist in any sense.

  • @MrSpiritchild
    @MrSpiritchild 3 года назад +1

    The answer is simple... When playing a game of chess with a cheater, you call them out. If they try to deny it, you take the chess board and beat them into the ground. These people are beyond dangerous, they are destroying the human heart, and given enough time, they will be responsible for the deaths of billions of people. Disclaimer, chess is a game, you don't really beat up cheaters while playing a game. But postmodernism is not a game, it's a tactic of war. A tactic that is designed to divide and conquer and subdue as many people as possible without firing a shot so as not to expose the evil nature of it's ideology. The problem with their ideas is that as much as they want us to believe violence is evil, violence is not as evil as convincing the masses to cut their own throats, while patting themselves on their own backs for the great favor they believe they are doing for the people.

  • @rmooreg
    @rmooreg 4 года назад

    "I think therefore I am...going think and conclude whatever I choose to , without adherence to logic and without regard to facts or evidence."

  • @Jaredthedude1
    @Jaredthedude1 6 лет назад +11

    This is excellent, however I have read a fair bit of Heidegger and while I have to defer to Hicks as being an expert, there are definitely things that Heidegger said that contradict Hicks assessment.

  • @keegster7167
    @keegster7167 3 года назад +1

    Sounds like in Literary Criticism, it’s just a simple case of hearing only what you want to hear and not really listening or reading at all

  • @NotesForSpaceCadets
    @NotesForSpaceCadets 7 лет назад +2

    Excellent lecture.

  • @discodynamitetnt2938
    @discodynamitetnt2938 7 лет назад +94

    Jordan Peterson brought me here

    • @Jaredthedude1
      @Jaredthedude1 6 лет назад

      Peterson takes from Neitchie and criticises postmodernism.

    • @Greg-xs5py
      @Greg-xs5py 6 лет назад +1

      ditto, starting to understand why JP hates PM.

    • @LifeInZadar
      @LifeInZadar 5 лет назад

      Sorry to hear that. But hey, he is only a product, a reaction and doesn't really have any new thoughts or anything to add to our collective body of knowledge. I can understand why some people may like some of the things he says, nobody's perfect. If folks need to go to church every Sunday to hear the same sermons and be reminded to do good, then there is a problem. However, if folks already do good and only go to church to socialize with other human beings and do good acts for others, then that is good, assuming they are not hurting others (ie Catholic church raping kids/nuns, etc.).

  • @Vanguard521
    @Vanguard521 7 лет назад +2

    Good overview leading to post modernism. It would have been nice to see the charts he referred to. Are they in his book?

  • @jeffreysbrother
    @jeffreysbrother 7 лет назад +1

    I believe the reference to Goodman at 49:27 is incorrect (please correct me if I'm mistaken). His discussion of "Grue" was not related to the notion of conceptual relativity, but rather to time-dependent predicates and their role in describing problems with scientific induction.

  • @thedarkness111
    @thedarkness111 4 года назад +5

    I can't get over that this was in '98.😲

    • @socialjay3871
      @socialjay3871 3 года назад

      You probably don't realise that postmodern philosophy began in the 1920's, peaked in the 1940's, had a brief revival in the 1960's and was out of vogue by the 1980's, either... you probably think it's the main school of thought right now because Jordan Peterson pissed his pants about it

  • @WillEhrendreich
    @WillEhrendreich 4 года назад +3

    Actually, if the universe began to exist, it has a cause. The universe is space, time, energy and matter. The cause must therefore be a spaceless, timeless, immaterial, uncaused, immeasurably powerful, personal mind. That's what people call God. If Jesus was raised from the dead, Christianity is true.

  • @germandohrmann7893
    @germandohrmann7893 4 года назад +2

    Thanks you!

  • @DouglasHPlumb
    @DouglasHPlumb 7 лет назад +4

    Kant's subjectivity is not like post modernist subjectivity is. I think most people misread Kant, this guy included. I'm no philosopher, but I think I give a better explanation of Kant than anyone has ever done in my movie "Dialectic". In this I explain what Kantianism really is. Kant placed limits on reason, limits that he proved, and using post Kantian science, I prove his basic hypothesis. Kant's statement about knowledge and faith was a necessity to explain observations, particularly in the moral domain. Kant does not say reason is impotent, he only shows it has limits. I think there is a silent war on Kant because our established powers do not want reason or conscience in our courtrooms. Its worth noting that Canadians no longer have rights to a Christian courts (defense and jury) and that our legal rights are to have tribunals in justice (Jewish law) rather than courts of law. I explain the difference between justice and law in Dialectic, also in "Law, the light of Reason and Conscience". I like Kant, Plato and Rousseau mainly.

  • @donaldthomann1613
    @donaldthomann1613 6 лет назад +7

    For the longest time, I've been struggling to really grasp post-modernism on a truly intellectual level, but I do know that when I hear its ideas laid out I feel like somebody kicked a hole in my soul and took a shit in it.

    • @daviddastardar3751
      @daviddastardar3751 6 лет назад

      Donald Thomann lolll

    • @LifeInZadar
      @LifeInZadar 5 лет назад

      Enjoy exploring nihilism. National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
      Call 1-800-273-8255

    • @reptard6833
      @reptard6833 4 года назад +2

      Hicks and J. Peterson don't understand postmodernism and misrepresent it.
      ruclips.net/video/EHtvTGaPzF4/видео.html

    • @Sportinglogic
      @Sportinglogic 3 года назад

      @Donald; Professor Hicks is well and truly out of his depts regarding any insight into Post-Modernism and one finds this in most universities all over the US. Mere eloquence does not replace rigor in thinking.
      I am in the process of concluding my postings on the topic, which can be followed here:
      vm.tiktok.com/ZMetvQcyE/

  • @fubaralakbar6800
    @fubaralakbar6800 4 года назад +38

    So, the anti-SJW movement, of which I am very much a part, and which has lead to rise of Trump, Boris Johnson, Jordan Peterson, etc...is essentially a re-emergence of modernism.

    • @citycrusher9308
      @citycrusher9308 4 года назад +4

      no. It's just men unable to deal with f3m1n1sm so they call it ''SJW'' and spin their wheels

    • @stevenleejobe
      @stevenleejobe 4 года назад +2

      Fubar AlAkbar The neo modernists!

    • @fubaralakbar6800
      @fubaralakbar6800 4 года назад +2

      @@stevenleejobe Yes! I like this! In fact I'm going to suggest it to Sargon of Akkad, as he actually mentioned giving a name to our movement in one of his videos.

    • @stevenleejobe
      @stevenleejobe 4 года назад +1

      Fubar AlAkbar Yes, please suggest to Sargon. I’d be honored. Surely we need a name and a set of canonic documents just like back in the day with Locke and DeCarte.

    • @triplea657aaa
      @triplea657aaa 4 года назад

      I would say it's a lot more complicated than that, but that is a part

  • @johndonne8657
    @johndonne8657 4 года назад +6

    Really solid, thorough analysis. Enjoyed this.

  • @EmperorsNewWardrobe
    @EmperorsNewWardrobe 4 года назад

    33:37 it can’t be the case that ‘contradictions should be embraced’ and ‘contradictions should not be embraced’ at the same time and the same sense. This demonstrates the law of non-contradiction that postmodernism tries to oppose.

  • @DedeProduction
    @DedeProduction 7 лет назад

    what are the impacts upon feminism of postmodern theories and the concept of “intersectionality” of oppressions? What strengths and dilemmas for contemporary feminism have resulted?

  • @scottcoston7832
    @scottcoston7832 4 года назад +2

    Well Done!

  • @MLJohnsonian
    @MLJohnsonian 4 года назад

    Quick question on Objectivist logic: What would the most basic premise in your philosophy be? The axiomatic foundation. This is a sincere question.

  • @toddellwood1583
    @toddellwood1583 6 лет назад

    Love his analysis of Herman Melville's Moby Dick, hooked me right there

  • @dmpeters
    @dmpeters 7 лет назад

    good ones

  • @MindyZielfelderArt
    @MindyZielfelderArt 4 года назад +5

    I recognize some of this in my own thinking, and that makes me wonder how ingrained is this "philosophy" in people from X gen and up. And how to root it out... it's clearly very damaging and may be a contributing factor in my own nihilism and depression.... So, how do we get back to reason? A mind so trained in anti-reason...how to fix what is broken?

  • @aluminiumfish
    @aluminiumfish 6 лет назад

    really enjoyed listening to Hicks. Completely confirmed for me the validity of Post-Modernism.There are some zealotry on both sides but using the synthetic pyscho -babble of Nietzsche does'nt do him any favours nor his ideas.

  • @colloredbrothers
    @colloredbrothers 4 года назад

    Could someone tell me what that last question was? I couldn’t quite get it even after rewinding it.

  • @mjbull5156
    @mjbull5156 4 года назад +2

    The conclusion that because science cannot get to a perfect image of reality, there is no true reality is absurd. It is like saying that because a photograph of a tree is out of focus, you can deny the existence of the tree entirely if you want.

  • @ellieschmitz7837
    @ellieschmitz7837 7 лет назад +23

    thank you professor Peterson for recommending Steven Hicks to figger out what postmodernism is about.

    •  6 лет назад +1

      Whoops! That was dangerously close "nigure".

    • @reptard6833
      @reptard6833 4 года назад +3

      Neither Hicks nor Peterson understand postmodernism.
      ruclips.net/video/EHtvTGaPzF4/видео.html

    • @henrik2518
      @henrik2518 4 года назад +2

      @@reptard6833 More importantly: Kant.

    • @jeffmaehre7150
      @jeffmaehre7150 4 года назад +1

      Why wouldn't you look to a postmodern thinker to figure out what it's about? Do gross oversimplifications make you feel better?

  • @anthonyodonnell8724
    @anthonyodonnell8724 6 лет назад +3

    I'm with Hicks on his critique of postmodernism, but he has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to the medieval mind. Yes, it was an age of faith, but the distinction between reason and faith was understood and affirmed. Medieval philosophy was, first of all, philosophy; it was also metaphysically realist, and utterly affirmative of reason. It was significantly a perpetuation of Greek rationalism.

    • @mikehoot3978
      @mikehoot3978 5 лет назад

      No. The medieval philosophy is centered in the believing of god.
      Then comes reason and all the rest.
      In greek and modern philossophy the center is the truth, at least the aspiration of it.
      Medieval age kill most of the ancient knowledge, only kept the part that did not disturb the imposition of faith.

  • @LA-kc7ev
    @LA-kc7ev 10 месяцев назад

    I have to note that medieval philosophy was not based only on "faith" and but on faith and reason, Aristotelian logic being the foundation of theology.

    • @LA-kc7ev
      @LA-kc7ev 10 месяцев назад

      It comes to mind while listening that, regarding the above, it was the doctrine of the Logos that identified human reason with the Divine reason that structures the universe, hence the ability of the human being to attain true knowledge. The mystics go further: following the mind above the material plane "experience God through God Himself."
      Philosophy wrestles across the ages with the same problems, but the starting points, or premises, and end points, differ. Reason is never absent (except maybe in Postmodernism).

  • @TheJeremyKentBGross
    @TheJeremyKentBGross 4 года назад +5

    This reminds me of Neil Degrasse Tyson's Beyond Belief talk, in which he points out that the Islamic world was the cutting edge of leadership in scientific advancement and discovery until around 1070-1100 when Imams started preaching that Math was of the devil, and that their culture has failed to recover from that mistake even 1000 years later.

    • @Patrick-hb7bk
      @Patrick-hb7bk 4 года назад

      Maths .

    • @jeffmaehre7150
      @jeffmaehre7150 4 года назад +1

      So you're interested in pop-culture versions of scientists, "philosophers." Have you ever read any real scholarship?

    • @elboudali_hamza
      @elboudali_hamza 2 года назад +1

      Just lies and misinformation

  • @jjwebster1
    @jjwebster1 4 года назад +3

    Kant uses reason to discredit reason? So isn't he discrediting his own ideas as if they're built into his reasoning and reason is flawed....

    • @coinswaptrader2915
      @coinswaptrader2915 3 года назад

      man's reason is flawed....but god is male and is absolute divine perfect reason!

    • @bigboy2217
      @bigboy2217 3 года назад

      Reason can be used to invalidate itself, it’s a well known Christian principle. Reason and intellect believe they have all the answers when in reality they just fall in love with themselves and their limited scope. Wisdom is much better. It’s like the combined experience and reason of your ancestors up to this point. Use all of that and tread with caution.

  • @Gunfighter13NEWT
    @Gunfighter13NEWT 6 лет назад +2

    Excellent. This clears up what's happening in our culture. Thank you!

  • @TheAtlasSociety
    @TheAtlasSociety  9 лет назад +4

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  • @thegreatresearcher1681
    @thegreatresearcher1681 6 месяцев назад

    A question of Stephen Hicks - why Postmodernism was defeated in the area of its origin, namely Philosophy yet turned out to be extremely successful in other humanities?

  • @shaunmcinnis1960
    @shaunmcinnis1960 6 лет назад +11

    We are living in the age of confusion where people don't know what to believe anymore. Anything can be argued or debated, we know that, and that's exactly what's happening. But taking away any value system " which is exactly what are doing, is recipe for disaster.The only reason the western world is the most sought after place to live "at least for now"is because we where built on a judeo Christian value system. Most people today refuse to accept this thinking they are inherently good "arrogant is a better word". Ask potential immigrants why they don't want to move to places like Bosnia or Saudi Arabi? Reality sets in when someone's chopping your head off with a sword or taking your 13 year old child for a wife. These are the real issues today and that's what we are opening the door to. I guess my comment would have more impact with 5 syllable words, so my apologies.

    • @jerrymarshall2095
      @jerrymarshall2095 5 лет назад +1

      Babylon,total confusion

    • @krs2711
      @krs2711 4 года назад

      Shaun mcinnis, Agree with much of what you commented except this perverse idea that Western civilization, in particular, America, is/was built upon a "judeo"- Christian value system. That's utter nonsense propagated by so-called Right-wing media outlets such as PragerU and ShapirU. Western civilization was NOT built on or based upon a "judeo"- Christian anything. Western civilization was established upon a *C.H.R.I.S.T.I.A.N* worldview and value system. I know, big SHOCKER! How "Horrifying!!" But entirely true. Sure, there were some Jews involved, but their ideologies have mostly led to much dismay. Hamilton and his big idea of a centralized bank not beholden to or held accountable by any established government, for example.

    • @shaunmcinnis1960
      @shaunmcinnis1960 4 года назад

      @@krs2711 Where did monogamy come from? Where did marriage come from? Where did forgiveness and compassion come from? Where did "do onto others as they would do unto you" come from? These are ALL Christian principles my friend. The secular world had no reason to objectively seek these values. Oh and if you think they did, Then what would be the reasoning behind it?

    • @krs2711
      @krs2711 4 года назад

      @@shaunmcinnis1960 communist youtube has deleted my reply 4 times now. Thank you for arguing MY point for me, Shaun. It's simply CHRISTIAN civilization. No compound modifier necessary, I.E. "judeo"

  • @misterparadise9542
    @misterparadise9542 4 года назад +8

    Such lucid thinking and speaking. As someone who was forcibly immersed in postmodern thinking in the early 90s whole doing an M.A. in English, and who since then has spent 25+ years cleansing himself of this claptrap by learning from older, traditionalist critics like the long since late great Northrop Frye and the now sadly recently late great Harold Bloom, I am delighted to hear Hicks on this subject and I’m sure will read his book in the future. I have heard defenders of postmodernism say he doesn’t know the philosophers he addresses deeply. I can’t judge, since most of them I only know secondhand myself, but I’ve yet to hear someone reveal a deep and significant error in Hicks’s thinking. For instance, I’ve heard it said that his scan of Kant on reason lacks nuance, but as soon as someone gives that nuance, I fail to see how it makes a difference to Hicks’s fundamental argument, which is that an attitude of some skepticism towards reason in Kant is one source of the same skepticism among the postmodernists. In other words, it’s not enough to find an error or a nuance lacking in Hicks (though I am not yet convinced even of that); it has to make a significant difference to the overall argument, and I haven’t seen a commenter really point out such a weakness yet. Hicks absolutely makes sense of postmodern thought as it was relayed to me through readings and lectures when I was in grad school, for what that’s worth.

    • @GoldLibrary
      @GoldLibrary Год назад +1

      Very well said, thanks for the write up.

  • @adrianafischetti2547
    @adrianafischetti2547 10 месяцев назад

    The speaker’s contention that Postmodernism is bad is an opinion that can easily be disputed and dismissed.

  • @dawnwise996
    @dawnwise996 8 лет назад

    Though I disagree with some of what Steven Hicks says, he does a good job.

  • @pn5721
    @pn5721 6 лет назад +1

    www.stephenhicks.org/2018/01/06/peterson-hicks-discussion-on-pomo-transcription/
    Jordan Peterson and Stephen Hicks diagnose Post-modernism.
    *The full blow-by-blow transcript of Jordan Peterson's August 2017 interview of Prof. Stephen Hicks, author of "Explaining Postmodernism: Skepticism from Rousseau to Foucault."*

  • @user936
    @user936 4 года назад

    9:54 Modernism - a broad philosophical movement:
    1/ What is real? (metaphysics)
    2/ How do you know? (epistemology; human knowledge and the source of this knowledge)
    3/ So what? (values, how these form society)
    4/ Human Nature (our relationship to rational capacity, emotion, reality in comparing 1/ and 2/ including free will and causality, then the nature of 3/ inc social and moral ethics)

  • @joshfrench6426
    @joshfrench6426 7 лет назад +2

    Also, the declining faith in science has to do with the corruption at the hands of major corporate interests steering the way of science. But, of course, this is just a post-modern delusion.

  • @ronjohnson4566
    @ronjohnson4566 4 месяца назад

    considering Marcel Duchamp's, The Bride Stripped Bare, By Her Bachelors Even, would you consider his last piece, Given the Illuminated Gas and the Waterfall, 1968 Postmodern or maybe Kitsch?

  • @rlpederson
    @rlpederson 4 года назад

    Anyone know where you can get the chart he is talking to?

  • @paulharris3000
    @paulharris3000 6 лет назад +1

    @40:00 - Why must there be a reason for existence?

  • @priyans1020
    @priyans1020 4 года назад

    People become famous by challenging widely accepted beliefs. They gains followers if they successfully projects the flaws of the present beliefs. Then their theory becomes popular and widely accepted. The cycle continues.
    Unless ofcourse there comes a system where its inherent flaws openly accepted while integrating it to the society.

  • @anng.4542
    @anng.4542 Год назад +1

    Oh, the outrage in the posts written by people who disagree!

  • @paulharris3000
    @paulharris3000 6 лет назад

    After Wittgenstein, we might ask: "Why is the sky blue?" The answer in this context would be: "Because we all agree that it is blue, and we agreed when we were powerless to disagree..."

  • @timothyhirman4928
    @timothyhirman4928 5 лет назад +4

    Go ahead. Hate on postmodernism. I think it's interesting and it takes courage to see the world that way. People don't understand it. It's as valid as any other point of view.

    • @zxyatiywariii8
      @zxyatiywariii8 5 лет назад +2

      I hate it, it's racist and sexist.🤦🏾‍♀️
      Post-Modernism stratifies all of humanity into opposing layers of Oppressed/Oppressors and assumes someone like me will necessarily have more in common with all other disabled brown mixed-race women, than with, for instance, a homeless white man, or a rich black agender person.
      People are too different, too individual, to be judged and pigeon-holed based on our immutable characteristics. I choose friends based on the content of their character, not by how many physical traits they do or do not share with me.

  • @snoosebaum995
    @snoosebaum995 6 лет назад +4

    So Exactly , What happened to Moderism ?

    • @HWalla23
      @HWalla23 5 лет назад +4

      Not that Stephen Hicks could tell you this--he's completely wrong about postmodernism in very simple and basic ways--but the emergence of fiat currency is regarded as the end of the "modern," at least by Baidou.

    • @percsaturn6963
      @percsaturn6963 3 года назад

      @@HWalla23 so if Hicks is wrong about it then what is postmodernism

    • @Sportinglogic
      @Sportinglogic 3 года назад

      Modernism is alive and well - however, Professor Hicks is well and truly out of his depts regarding any insight into Post-Modernism and one finds this in most universities all over the US.
      I am in the process of concluding my postings on the topic, which can be followed here:
      vm.tiktok.com/ZMetvQcyE/

  • @gemthomas
    @gemthomas 4 года назад

    So if one would want post modernist to review a novel where would one go to show them ?

  • @cybrarian9
    @cybrarian9 4 года назад

    [Is it possible to post the slides for this entire presentation?
    ...]
    This 2--part series will somewhat help to explain to me "how we got here" in 2020 if at least tangentially to "cultural Marxism" and "Intersectionality" that pervades 3rd-wave feminism and the BLM organization and other leftist and progressive ideologies.
    ...
    Having read quite a few books in college on "film theory" when I earned a bachelors in "Radio, Television, and Film," and now having read over the past 17 years on various psychological books as a medical librarian cataloging these sorts of titles, I've come to 1 major conclusion about how people write:
    ...
    Anyone who writes in words with more than 2 or 3 syllables is writing to hear himself or herself read aloud and is suffering under the delusion of self-importance and conceit.
    ...
    I've often had to read and re-read the same paragraphs over and over again from people who write tomes that sound self-important with my dictionary in arm's reach. And I happen to have a decent vocabulary. So if I can't figure it out, and I'm definitely not the smartest person in the room, then it's too overly inflated to be read at all. I'm not suggesting to "dumb it down," but I am suggesting that if you can't say it simply, then you don't know your own work.

  • @enotes9
    @enotes9 7 лет назад +8

    rationality is replaced by bull shit. yes. that's perfectly legitimate

  • @arimendelson8875
    @arimendelson8875 6 лет назад

    Is there a transcript of this speech available anywhere?

    • @ronaldthomas6326
      @ronaldthomas6326 6 лет назад +1

      www.amazon.com/Explaining-Postmodernism-Skepticism-Socialism-Rousseau-ebook/dp/B005D53DG0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1513182119&sr=8-1&keywords=steven+hicks

  • @LuxInTenebris458
    @LuxInTenebris458 4 года назад +1

    Is there someone constantly whispering in the background "ok...aha...ok....ok", or am I hearing voices?

    • @vera1654
      @vera1654 3 года назад

      I just heard it too lol

  • @herbertwest9266
    @herbertwest9266 2 месяца назад +2

    That's the worst take on Kant I ever heard. I don't know enough about Rand to know whether Hicks is just blindly following a bad take she is responsible for as a fanboy or is himself responsible for that mess and didn't understand her all that well, but it's utterly unprofessional whatever the original source of this is. Kant was far from putting faith over reason. His whole endeavour was about proving the objective legitimacy of the laws of the sciences by an analysis of the fundamental conditions of human experience and reasoning. While some arguments may be outdated today (he was using Euclidean geometry for an important proof that was outdated by the time of the arrival of Einstein's theory of relativity), Hicks doesn't seem to have any clue whatsoever what the whole point of the Kantian argumentations was directed at. There may be a slight whiff of truth in the "faith" reasoning presented here considering Kant (certainly still child of his time in this regard) didn't outright dismiss faith as necessarily absurd, but located questions like those about the existence of god outside of the realm of possible empirical experience and thus outside of the kind of reasoning science and philosophy can and should engage in.
    It's not relativism but even trivially true that what our brain makes us experience as, for example, an apple, is nothing more than our sensory experiences of the visuals of the apple, the taste in our mouth when we eat it, the pressure in our hand when we lift it up, the sound we hear when it falls to the ground, and so on. There is no "direct" relation to the thing outside causing the representation our minds will give us and there never can be. Is the "apple by itself" similar, vaguely or vastly different? We can't know, because everything we sense about the apple is fundamentally a representation transmitted through the neurological network of our brain - Kant recognizes this simple fact of the conditions of our experience truthfully, but also teaches his readers that in the end it doesn't matter. He allows us to trust the rules and conclusions (i.e. laws of nature) we can deduce from the things that appear to us and thus solves a long-standing philosophical debate relevant in his time. To paint this as some kind of "postmodern" mumbo jumbo that puts feelings over facts and gives rise to irrational and arbitrary ideas about the world is an almost infantile misconstruction of the arguments presented in the critique of pure reason and the intentions behind his work as a philosopher.
    Kants arguing was meant to purge professional sciences from contamination with religious quackery and endless engaging in mythological speculations doomed to lead nowhere. It was also a clear rejection of any meddling with epistemological relativism of the kind postmodernists would like people to take seriously centuries later. While it's true he left some possibility for private belief in speculative religious possibilities (i.e. "non-rational" private speculations or hopeful fantasies about non-experiencable things that may or may not exist in some way beyond the limits of our reasoning), framing his work as a fundamental apology of religious dogmatism or fundamental-sceptical rejection of a reality is utterly misleading. As is Hick's ludicrous attempt to count Kant as a figure of "counter-enlightenment" - that stands diametrically opposed to the vast majority of sane takes that would of course place him very clearly as one of the leading figures of the enlightenment movement.
    I liked some arguments Hicks made in other contexts so far, now I'm actually wondering if I've been listening to a hack all the time. He seems to be able to fail badly in judgment and to unashamedly argue completely out of any professional depth when he is trying to lecture about branches of philosophy he doesn't know much about or seems for whatever reason pre-disposed against.

  • @proudhon100
    @proudhon100 6 лет назад

    I think it’s entirely reasonable to see in Captain Ahab “an almost insane desire to dominate nature through technology,” even if that’s not what Melville had in mind. But then, I’ve been doing this sort of thing with old episodes of Star Trek for decades.
    Your point about Thomas Kuhn is intriguing. I’ve never read him, but I am aware of his basic argument, or at least thought I did. I hadn’t really considered the idea of him being in the same line of thinking as Foucault. Maybe that’s because I’ve heard him referred to by Young Earth Creationists (generally not of the Left) attempting to dismiss Darwin. I’ve also heard his arguments deployed by those attacking climate change science, also people not of the Left.

    • @richarddelanet
      @richarddelanet 10 месяцев назад

      YOU SAY THIS - 'I think it’s entirely reasonable to see in Captain Ahab “an almost insane desire to dominate nature through technology,” even if that’s not what Melville had in mind.' But that my friend is total, utter and absolute drivel.

    • @proudhon100
      @proudhon100 10 месяцев назад

      @@richarddelanet Why?

    • @richarddelanet
      @richarddelanet 10 месяцев назад

      @@proudhon100 Ahab lost his leg to the white whale. He wants revenge - at whatever cost consumed as he is. Hunting a particular individual in the white whale community is ... "dominating nature" ? How so? And secondly the technology of oil based illumination leads to hunting whale and yet Ahab wishes to kill one single solitary whale, not as many as might be needed - together with the rest of Nantucket etc - to light civilisation.

    • @proudhon100
      @proudhon100 10 месяцев назад

      @@richarddelanet Doesn't civilisation come at the cost of dominating nature? And abandoning that domination will collapse civilisation - net zero is doing that.

    • @richarddelanet
      @richarddelanet 10 месяцев назад

      @@proudhon100 That may well be the case, but what on earth does that have to do with Capt Ahab. If you mean or are referring to Moby Dick the entire book which includes whaling generically, why not just say that?

  • @gavinreid8351
    @gavinreid8351 6 лет назад

    What is not really looked at in depth is that the Medieval mind set that enlightenment /modernism questioned was the dominance of Religious belief ,in particular, Christianity.

  • @harmona3691
    @harmona3691 4 года назад

    So no answer for that theory-laden question in the end. Who can refute "grounded theory"? Theory built on and based on data, educated researchers' reflections, criticism, and the inclusion and examination of the contextual and structural frameworks, many of which later followed by positivist.

  • @MITMathematica
    @MITMathematica 3 года назад

    This how a physicist gave postmodernism a hilarious black eye and live to tell about .
    For anyone who pays attention to popular accounts of physics and cosmology, quantum gravity is a thing. How could it not be? Quantum gravity is the place where the two pillars of modern physics-quantum mechanics and relativity-collide head-on at the very instant of the Big Bang. The two theories, each triumphant in its own realm, just don’t play well together. If you are looking for fundamental challenges to our ideas about the universe, quantum gravity isn’t a bad place to start.
    A bit over two decades ago, quantum gravity also proved to be the perfect honey trap for a bunch of academics with a taste for nonsense and an envious bone to pick with science.
    In 1994, NYU physicist Alan Sokal ran across a book by biologist Paul Gross and mathematician Norman Levitt. In Higher Superstition: The Academic Left and Its Quarrels with Science[3], Gross and Levitt raised an alarm about those in the new field of “cultural studies” who were declaring that scientific knowledge, and at some level reality itself, is nothing but a social construct. Unsure whether he should take Gross and Levitt at face value, Sokal went to the library and dove into the literature that they were criticizing. When he came up for air, he was much more familiar with the postmodernist critique of science. He was also appalled at the depth of its ignorance about the subject.
    Most scientists respond to such nonsense with a muttered, “good grief,” but Sokal felt compelled to do more. He decided to give postmodernists a first-hand demonstration of the destructive testing of ideas that tie science to a reality that cuts across all cultural divides.
    Sokal had a hypothesis: Those applying postmodernism to science couldn’t tell the difference between sense and nonsense if you rubbed their noses in it. He predicted that the cultural science studies crowd would publish just about anything, so long as it sounded good and supported their ideological agenda. To test that prediction, Sokal wrote a heavily footnoted and deliciously absurd 39-page parody entitled, “Transgressing The Boundaries. Toward A Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity.”[
    The paper is worth reading just for a belly laugh. It promises “emancipatory mathematics” at the foundation of “a future post-modern and liberatory science.” “Physical ‘reality’,” it declares, “is at bottom a social and linguistic concept.” He embraces the notion, seriously proposed by some, that logic itself is invalidated by “contamination of the social” When he showed it to friends, Sokal says, “the scientists would figure out quickly that either it was a parody or I had gone off my rocker.”
    Sokal submitted his paper to a trendy journal called Social Text. Understanding the importance of ego, he freely and glowingly cited work by several of the journal’s editors. For their part, the folks at Social Text were thrilled to receive Sokal’s manuscript. Here at last was a physicist who was “on their side!” After minor revisions, the paper was accepted and scheduled to appear in an upcoming special “Science Wars” edition.
    The bait had been taken, but the trap had yet to be sprung. That came with a piece by Sokal in Lingua Franca that appeared just after Social Text hit the stands, exposing “Transgressing the Boundaries” as the hoax it was.
    Parody sometimes succeeds where reasoned discourse fails. Sokal’s little joke burst free of the ivory tower on May 18, 1996, when The New York Times ran a front-page article entitled, “Postmodern Gravity Deconstructed, Slyly.”The Sokal Hoax became a hot topic of conversation around the world!
    Reactions to Sokal’s article were, shall we say, mixed. The editors of Social Text were not amused, to put it mildly, and they decried Sokal’s unethical behavior. One insisted that the original paper was not a hoax at all, but that fearing reprisal from the scientific hegemony, Sokal had “folded his intellectual resolve.” It was lost on them that had they showed the paper to anyone who knew anything about science or mathematics, the hoax would have been spotted instantly.
    As most scientists did: When I heard about it, I busted a gut!
    I still laugh, but the Sakai Hoax carries a serious message. In addition to diluting intellectual rigor, the postmodern assault on science undermines the very notion of truth and robs scientists and scholars of their ability to speak truth to power. As conservative columnist George Will correctly observed, “the epistemology that Sokal attacked precludes serious discussion of knowable realities.” Today, from climate change denial, to the anti-vaccine movement, to the nonsensical notion of “alternative facts,” that blade is wielded on both sides of the political aisle.
    Sokal gets the last word. Quoting from his 1996 Lingua Franca article, “Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the 21st floor.)”