Labour's shallow victory

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024

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  • @spinaway
    @spinaway 3 месяца назад +311

    The reason we have such low voter turnout is because People think it is a waste of time, as whoever you vote for, you only get either Conservative or Labour.

    • @Minimmalmythicist
      @Minimmalmythicist 3 месяца назад +20

      One thing was that there used to be kind of internal diversity in the parties, i.e the Labour party had everyone from left of centre socialdemocrats to Trotskyites, similarly the Tories ranged from people like Ted Heath and Harold Macmillan to Enoch Powell.

    • @xxxvvv9172
      @xxxvvv9172 3 месяца назад

      @@Minimmalmythicist heute sind alle Kapitalisten.

    • @merseybeat1963
      @merseybeat1963 3 месяца назад +29

      Wrong..you are getting either New Labour or Conservative branded New Labour.

    • @vizveebee
      @vizveebee 3 месяца назад +24

      Only if you follow msm. We knew by social media that there was a massive turnout for Reform, but the apathetic still believed the above. The other thing that we have to change is the horrible first past the post rigging.

    • @onepartyroule
      @onepartyroule 3 месяца назад

      Also politics fatigue. The only party offering a genuine alternative are the Greens, but theyre too radical for most, or people like their positions on things like tax and housing but hate their identity politics and positions on things like self ID.

  • @tsedge99
    @tsedge99 3 месяца назад +153

    The headline should have been "FPTP throws up yet another absurdly unfair distribution of seats to votes". Time for a change of system.

    • @raymondelliott2280
      @raymondelliott2280 3 месяца назад +2

      Yes it is unfair, but until PR arrives labour have to play the system because they’re certainly not going to get any help from the media like the tories do. Until now the left has always been divided but now the Tory vote is being split by Reform they don’t like it, a lot of people in the Labour Party are agitating for proportional representation and I’m sure it will be part of their manifesto the next time round because until now first past the post has massively benefited the tories.

    • @austinbux
      @austinbux 3 месяца назад

      @@raymondelliott2280 You can't seriously believe the media are more pro Tory than Labour? Most people in media are exactly Labour's target voter.

    • @kaxar6954
      @kaxar6954 3 месяца назад

      @@raymondelliott2280 I think we should support keeping the First Past the Post Electoral System. But advocate for Proportional Representation for 10 additional UK wide MP seats.

    • @friendlyadvice7302
      @friendlyadvice7302 3 месяца назад +10

      "Voter Apathy Wins in a Landslide" is the real headline.

    • @ajikpajik9331
      @ajikpajik9331 3 месяца назад

      ​@@kaxar6954The Scottish system works quite well. FPTP for constituencies and list MSP's on your second vote.

  • @Nuts-Bolts
    @Nuts-Bolts 3 месяца назад +220

    Starmer said he wont rejoin the EU...? But Starmer has proven multiple times that he''ll say anything at the time that he thinks people want to hear.

    • @jsd8981
      @jsd8981 3 месяца назад +4

      What politician dosen't, !!!...name one...!!!...

    •  3 месяца назад

      @@Nuts-Bolts and that's what politicians do. While the REAL levers are pushed and pulled from behind the curtains

    • @jayjaydubful
      @jayjaydubful 3 месяца назад +9

      ​​@@jsd8981 Kemi? Rosie Duffield? Corbyn?

    • @xxxvvv9172
      @xxxvvv9172 3 месяца назад +3

      @@jayjaydubful Corbyn hätte den BREXIT verhindern können.

    • @Nuts-Bolts
      @Nuts-Bolts 3 месяца назад +17

      @@jsd8981 Perhaps I should have put it better. Starmer is on record saying complete opposites to what he said before on various subjects.
      He doesn’t therefore appear to have any firm guiding credo, principles etc.

  • @davidharrington1133
    @davidharrington1133 3 месяца назад +105

    Labour will be a shitshow

    • @ianHolmes-up2oc
      @ianHolmes-up2oc 3 месяца назад +2

      No they won't great to have a labour government

    • @CaroleMatheson
      @CaroleMatheson 3 месяца назад +7

      They will be a shit show

    • @jamesstevenson1296
      @jamesstevenson1296 3 месяца назад +3

      Will it be a worse shitshow than the one we have just had?

    • @Dylan-co2cl
      @Dylan-co2cl 3 месяца назад +4

      @@ianHolmes-up2oc Yes they will,because Starver's party is nothing but red Tories.

    • @dominicchallis2928
      @dominicchallis2928 3 месяца назад

      @@Dylan-co2clFucking hell will you shut up and acknowledge that we now have the most state educated Cabinet in history and Starmer‘s first instincts were to appoint actual experts and reforming voices to the justice, attorney, and science departments.

  • @jayjaydubful
    @jayjaydubful 3 месяца назад +83

    That Harriet Harman is now being considered by the Labour Party to become the next chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) is a VERY BAD SIGN of things to come

    • @dellawrence4323
      @dellawrence4323 3 месяца назад

      Given her historical alliance with the Paedophile Information Exchange people should be very concerned at this news.

    • @mmmmmmyer
      @mmmmmmyer 3 месяца назад

      PIE

    • @CL-he4jz
      @CL-he4jz 3 месяца назад

      I did see her on ch 4/ gurumurthy election panel show... they were all gobsmacked, astounded and non -plussed that rfm were doing so well.
      to be fair she did say by way of " how could this be happening", WHY r ppl voting this way?- about LEGAL immigration and it is alot, they WILL have to listen to ppl and have the conversation reduce numbers/ allow uk ppl to train... an eg she gave was a lady working in tesco she had met, bcos she couldn't afford midwife training. she sed we needed more bursaries for uk ppl wanting to train

    • @dominicchallis2928
      @dominicchallis2928 3 месяца назад +1

      @@CL-he4jzThere were certain parts of that election night coverage on Channel Four where she came out with the most vile and line-towing nonsense that even I, who am ecstatic about the Labour victory, started to get angry. Didn’t help that the removal of her hair dye made her look as if she’d aged like Bilbo after he gives up the One Ring.

    • @lindamacro5945
      @lindamacro5945 3 месяца назад +1

      That woman HH would not know 'Fairness of Equality' if it came and introduced itself. She is both mean and spiteful except when dealing with her own relatives who are not perfect when researching her history.

  • @Volcanic47
    @Volcanic47 3 месяца назад +166

    Reform has 5 now after a recount in Basildon and East Thurrock

    • @ballerblocks
      @ballerblocks 3 месяца назад +17

      Yess I live in east Thurrock

    • @rudy-r5x
      @rudy-r5x 3 месяца назад

      change is what?from sunak to him,he can't change the sanctions britain imposed on themselves,can't join brics,can't overturn the nuclear threaths,can't join the free world trading platform

    • @KickRocks-me7hh
      @KickRocks-me7hh 3 месяца назад +3

      Shame

    • @mikewaite5507
      @mikewaite5507 3 месяца назад +21

      Only a shame if you wanted Tories to hold it.​@KickRocks-me7hh

    • @kingflynxi9420
      @kingflynxi9420 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@mikewaite5507 Tories do hold it, just currently the light blue, free market capitalist loony kind

  • @Wayoutthere
    @Wayoutthere 3 месяца назад +99

    'Davos over Westminster' Starmer...lovely.

    • @grahamatsea3575
      @grahamatsea3575 3 месяца назад

      Yep the bulk of the UK public here are stupid beyond my wildest dreams ..... or nightmares.

    • @kingflynxi9420
      @kingflynxi9420 3 месяца назад

      So global cooperation instead of isolationism? Good work I say

    • @ChristineRead-ck1uq
      @ChristineRead-ck1uq 3 месяца назад

      @@kingflynxi9420 Is that what you call it? Oh dear. Heard of the Barcelona Declaration, Barcelona Convention or the Barcelona Agreement? Look them up and see what that 'global cooperation' has in store for us all.
      You won't be quite so happy when you see it.

    • @dickturpin6524
      @dickturpin6524 3 месяца назад

      No corporate technocrats usurping democratic process. Labour will pass more constitutional power on to select committees and appointed (corporate owned) consultants/experts (super lobbyists) deciding your future for you instead of where it should be decided in the commons on the floor . Like the agreegious insipid climate nonsense, which is the biggest wealth transfer croney capitalism has thus far contoured up. But get ready being allied to the Davis super sharks there will be any more.

    • @tube.brasil
      @tube.brasil 3 месяца назад +7

      @@kingflynxi9420 Treason, actually

  • @AdamJones381
    @AdamJones381 3 месяца назад +150

    I don't think anyone can think it is fair and correct that Labour has 150 plus majority on a third of the vote. Also Starmer got less votes Corbyn, hardly a ringing endorsement.

    • @Stoddardian
      @Stoddardian 3 месяца назад +21

      Amazing, how broken this system is.

    • @marchingontogether2571
      @marchingontogether2571 3 месяца назад +11

      on only 21% of the vote

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine 3 месяца назад +15

      Barely got a higher proportion of the population to vote Labour than in 2010. A party that failed 14 years ago is back again with the same ideas against the same problems.
      We've been trapped in a political time warp since 2008.

    • @kingflynxi9420
      @kingflynxi9420 3 месяца назад +9

      Fewer people voted overall this election

    • @kingflynxi9420
      @kingflynxi9420 3 месяца назад +4

      ​@@TreblaineThe conservatives have been conserving 2008 since they got into power. Can't blame Labour for a global recession either

  • @petercoleman7882
    @petercoleman7882 3 месяца назад +74

    Well, one things certain, massive immigration.

    • @mithrandirthegrey7644
      @mithrandirthegrey7644 3 месяца назад +13

      This is true whether you vote conservative or labour.

    • @shrunkensimon
      @shrunkensimon 3 месяца назад +1

      Commooniteee. Refooogeee ❤🤗

    • @thomasm1964
      @thomasm1964 3 месяца назад

      And mass emigration of those who can afford it.

    • @susannamarker2582
      @susannamarker2582 3 месяца назад

      What can you expect from a communist lawyer like Starmer ? After his strange visit to communist Czechoslovakia in 1986, Starmer joined the Haldane Society of lawyers, at a time when everyone knew it was practically a cover for the british communist party, the old CPGB. A dangerous Trotskyite is our Kier.

    • @miketomlin6040
      @miketomlin6040 2 месяца назад

      Deport the Reform voters, to Russia or North Korea, then we will have more space for immigrants!

  • @SirHargreeves
    @SirHargreeves 3 месяца назад +61

    David Lammy as Foreign Secretary? Surely he’s the first to be sacked.

    • @-ipf8978
      @-ipf8978 3 месяца назад +4

      Lammy is really clever actually...in his own head

    • @offshoretomorrow3346
      @offshoretomorrow3346 3 месяца назад +5

      He might get lost on the way to work on monday.

    • @dianasitek3595
      @dianasitek3595 3 месяца назад

      He's described Donald Trump as a “neo-nazi-sympathizing sociopath.” That won't go down well if Trump wins.

    • @jitendrajoshi786
      @jitendrajoshi786 3 месяца назад +2

      Don't talk rubbish

    • @Ichioku
      @Ichioku 3 месяца назад +1

      I give him 3 months before he makes a major gaffe.

  • @anthonylee3311
    @anthonylee3311 3 месяца назад +8

    It's interesting that in his constituency, Keir Starmer's majority HALVED - apparently, this has never happened before to an incoming PM

  • @djkush
    @djkush 3 месяца назад +24

    Great dialogue guys. I love how you prove it’s possible to have enlightened conversation about multiple political factions without denigrating anyone…. See BBC, it can be done 😮

    • @jackiedelvalle
      @jackiedelvalle 3 месяца назад +1

      BBC aren't interested in NOT denigrating anyone. You've misunderstood completely!

    • @duncankendrick9771
      @duncankendrick9771 2 месяца назад

      No, you have.

  • @TheOmfg02
    @TheOmfg02 3 месяца назад +126

    Labour won with Less than 20% of the eligible people to vote

    • @MarkoKraguljac
      @MarkoKraguljac 3 месяца назад +2

      Knowing that, did anyone vote for blue wing at all considering how hard they crashed? :D

    • @rogerwood4846
      @rogerwood4846 3 месяца назад

      if labour lower the age to vote to 16....FARAGE is making great inroads to the younger and so would these 16 year olds bring in the REFORM GOVERNMENT

    • @John-gr5tx
      @John-gr5tx 3 месяца назад +4

      You are saying that with 5 candidates and only 6 come out to vote. The man with 2 votes wins. Even though there are 1000 voters.

    • @kerryobrien71
      @kerryobrien71 3 месяца назад

      This is an attempt to deflect and misrepresents the actual Vote, why not show what the other parties each won as a % of ELIGIBLE. What is the proportion of who ACTUALLY voted, for each of the parties. There is a diffusion of votes across lots of parties, with all earning a lot less votes than Labour. This is the system that you have in the UK, this is the result.

    • @paulmeilak9946
      @paulmeilak9946 3 месяца назад +4

      @@John-gr5tx There are 1000 people eligible to vote who did not vote. So by default, the only votes that count were the 6 people who bothered to show up. so yes you are correct.

  • @MrOperacynic
    @MrOperacynic 3 месяца назад +17

    It is a fundamental error to believe that 'Reform took votes away from the Tories'. I was a Tory voter and if Reform hadn't been there I would not have voted at all. The Tories abandoned conservative values and left the field empty for Reform. In my opinion there is no way back for the Tory (centre left) party. It remains to be seen if Reform can occupy the centre right successfully.

    • @ribbonsofnight
      @ribbonsofnight 3 месяца назад

      A win for the uniparty is a win for the Tories.

    • @palomapepe1
      @palomapepe1 2 месяца назад

      And what have Reform PLC owned by mi/billionaires Tice + Farage ever done for anyone apart from gaslighting and disrupting political discourse and denying man made global warming causing climate chaos.
      Are they offering/promising to help people insulate their homes or even rehouse them adequately the day their homes are destroyed because of floods or fire ? No, they are not. Are they offering to Invest in Renewable energy for all ? No they are not.
      The only thing they're offering is HATRED towards those refugees and immigrants who have lost everything either because of Wars caused by lack of resources directly linked to Global Warming + Western Govts' lack of Development Aid these days and since the era of criminal tRump !
      We all need to look at the bigger picture. #ClimateChaos is the biggest threat to mankind, our environment and the natural world.
      All politicians who are willing to listen know exactly what needs to be done to diminish its advance but instead we get wars caused by Putin/Netanyahu and Western 'politicians' like Liar Johnson, Truss, Sunak, Trump, Farage, Orban, Le Pen, Modi, looking at their own navels whilst supporting these warmongerers and whilst the planet burns.
      There is no planet B and no solution unless all countries work together. Cooperation and peace to reverse GW and Climate chaos.
      Govts must listen to the Science. We are in 2024 after all and not in 1789 ! Huge technical advances since then but the intellect isn't keeping up as the Main stream Media insist on keeping us dummed down.

  • @sznwlc_9472
    @sznwlc_9472 3 месяца назад +110

    We welcome Keir Starmer as Prime Minister the same way we welcome a haemorrhoid.

    • @e13kid
      @e13kid 3 месяца назад

      I love right wing snowflake tears 🤣

    • @MrSOLOPIANIST
      @MrSOLOPIANIST 3 месяца назад +6

      Mister Blister haha

    • @offshoretomorrow3346
      @offshoretomorrow3346 3 месяца назад +1

      Roll out the red carpet/ toilet paper.

    • @susiegreaves7283
      @susiegreaves7283 3 месяца назад +2

      Very unfair to haemorrhoids.

    • @petercrane2065
      @petercrane2065 3 месяца назад +1

      Are you trying to say Starmer is an A...hole?

  • @beefy0978
    @beefy0978 3 месяца назад +82

    I predict….
    -Increased immigration
    -Another war
    -continued high inflation particularly on food and fuel
    -increased minimum wage which will contribute to inflation
    -increased council tax
    -reduced freedom of movement especially in cars

    •  3 месяца назад +3

      So, then, how and why did Labour succeed so 'resoundingly'?

    • @PedroFigueiredo-ti7vu
      @PedroFigueiredo-ti7vu 3 месяца назад +29

      Don't forget Reduced freedom of speech

    • @mavrick6499
      @mavrick6499 3 месяца назад +1

      Great question. In fact, THE question.

    • @glynreed1
      @glynreed1 3 месяца назад +16

      The Labour Party won 9,712,011. In 1997 (when voting population was lower in number) John Major won 9,591,085 votes in the catastrophic Conservative defeat. Therefore, this is hardly a resounding victory for the Labour Party. More a worrying indictment of our electoral system.

    •  3 месяца назад +1

      @@glynreed1 well....at least it's not the US!

  • @keithsewell8389
    @keithsewell8389 3 месяца назад +4

    "First Past the Post" is an excellent way of racing horses, but an abysmal way of voting for representative legislatures.

  • @peteraston4753
    @peteraston4753 3 месяца назад +18

    Look out now for Davos/Wef policies to be made UK law

    • @chickenfist1554
      @chickenfist1554 3 месяца назад +3

      Could you give a brief summary in layman's terms please? I'm what you'd call politically ignorant lol

    • @zanderman004
      @zanderman004 3 месяца назад

      ​@@chickenfist1554
      - You won't own anything. (Lease/subscription for everything)
      - Increased invas.. er.. migration.
      - Hate speech laws protecting certain groups whilst penalizing the legitimately concerned. ie. native population and the common sensical.
      - Net zero = restricted travel/heavier taxes and charges eg. ULEZ (but nation wide).
      - Destruction of farming.
      - Privatization of NHS. (Everything sold off to basically end up a US model. Can't afford it then die.)
      - Digital currency (tracking all of your accounts, expenditures etc..)
      - Eat ze bugs.
      The list goes on.. it's basically a dystopian nightmare should these things actually be implemented. Globalism. Control.
      It is literally a ransacking of everyone's freedoms.
      But if we don't do anything about it then we basically deserve it. (apart from our children of course. They don't.)

    • @ppetal1
      @ppetal1 2 месяца назад

      You're talking cobblers. Admit it.

  • @paulwally9007
    @paulwally9007 3 месяца назад +32

    What on earth was Sunak's wife wearing? An alien skeleton?

    • @cyclist68
      @cyclist68 3 месяца назад +3

      I think Starmer won the wives

    • @kingflynxi9420
      @kingflynxi9420 3 месяца назад +4

      WWI British Navy dazzle camo

    • @ChristineRead-ck1uq
      @ChristineRead-ck1uq 3 месяца назад +2

      As a billionairess, she should really be able to employ a good advisor about the things she wears.

    • @lostcause6100
      @lostcause6100 3 месяца назад +1

      Red, white and blue - patriotic but didn't work.🤔

    • @onanysundrymule3144
      @onanysundrymule3144 3 месяца назад +2

      Halloween costume parody of starving working class person due to food price inflation.

  • @AlisonCassidy-s5n
    @AlisonCassidy-s5n 3 месяца назад +9

    That's what infuriates me about Lib Dem voters.. Most are not voting FOR anything. They just don't want Labour or, this time, Tory.

    • @kerrynewnham8946
      @kerrynewnham8946 3 месяца назад

      Health and social care, green.

    • @topercaker2646
      @topercaker2646 3 месяца назад

      Cons wouldnt cut income taxes without la LibDems nudge

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 2 месяца назад

      An analysis of Liberal voters of the 1970s identified three types - "core Liberals", probably the smallest group, "centrists" looking for a golden mean between Labour and Conservative, and "anti-system", people who just disliked Lab-Con system politics outright and saw the Liberals as outside that. Some parts of the "Celtic fringe" were inclined to elect Liberals when nobody else did. How much the Lib Dems of today follow this pattern is hard to say but the "centrist" thing is certainly there.

  • @MarkoKraguljac
    @MarkoKraguljac 3 месяца назад +21

    Puppets change, hand remains the same.

  • @harmonyloveinfinity
    @harmonyloveinfinity 3 месяца назад +13

    Great analysis, Unherd is staying on top of it!

    • @ppetal1
      @ppetal1 2 месяца назад

      😂

  • @madMARTYNmarsh1981
    @madMARTYNmarsh1981 3 месяца назад +8

    I'm 42, 43 next month. I voted Reform UK. Last election I voted Lib Dem. Before that was UKIP. Before that, I voted Conservative. Before that was Labour. I am not a one party voter. I vote for what I think is the best option at the time, in what I think is the best interests of the country at the time. I will not vote again until FPTP is gone. This archaic system enforces the practice of voting for the least worst option. Any vote for a small party is essentially an irrelevant vote, a waste of time and effort. I will spoil my ballot from now on.
    We need PR or some kind of legal obligation to not lie in election material.
    Given the choice, I would move to an uninhabited island to live on my own. Unfortunately, there is no uninhabited land free of claim by a government/country. Maybe I could crowd fund a move to Mars! I think I'm finished with Earth.

    • @chrisdraper845
      @chrisdraper845 3 месяца назад

      I’d join you!
      Really not looking forward to the next 5 years.

    • @AL-wn2tt
      @AL-wn2tt 3 месяца назад

      Ireland the same. I would love to move somewhere else. Don't know where !

    • @avae5343
      @avae5343 3 месяца назад +2

      How do you go from UKIP to the Liberal Democrats?

  • @tonyalways7174
    @tonyalways7174 3 месяца назад +62

    Love him or hate him, Farage is the only party leader capable of generating any excitement at all. Starmer takes being boring to an art form.

    • @anacerar6810
      @anacerar6810 3 месяца назад +1

      People constantly forget decent ,good hearted people like George Galloway. 😢 Same here in Slovenia 😢

    • @davidorr484
      @davidorr484 3 месяца назад +1

      I agree even though I cannot stand Farage. Jeremy Corbyn also generated excitement amongst young people; starmer excites very few

    • @o00nemesis00o
      @o00nemesis00o 2 месяца назад

      @@anacerar6810 Decent, good-hearted people despise George Galloway.

    • @anacerar6810
      @anacerar6810 2 месяца назад

      @@o00nemesis00o and why is that? Do you know something I am unaware of? Please, give an explanation of why you feel that way. I wish you peace and good will.

  • @Tracertme
    @Tracertme 3 месяца назад +5

    It’s going to be a laugh a minute watching Labour minister blunders on the global stage…😂 it will be the comedy show of 2024. Comics will have a field day..❤

  • @brenb8897
    @brenb8897 3 месяца назад +57

    Anything Labour can do covertly that they said they would not do? THEY WILL DO.

  • @EightFrancs
    @EightFrancs 3 месяца назад +3

    New puppets, same agendas.
    Absolutely nothing has changed.

  • @PaulRoneClarke
    @PaulRoneClarke 3 месяца назад +52

    On the surface this seems similar to 1997. But Labour have 2 challenges I suspect they will not overcome that were not the case in 1997
    1) They do not have a popular mandate. Yes they have a constitutional one, but they have an incredibly low vote share. This means they will get pressure from the outside immediately. They will have little (probably no) honeymoon period
    2) They do not have a clear manifesto for change. Just tinkering. This means that it's a blank sheet of paper as far as many new Labour MPs are concerned.
    In 1997 Blair had the flagship policies of education reform, internet roll out and the end of cronyism (and cash-for-questions) All Blair's MP's knew what they stood for and what the public expected. He could get little in the way of push back. His own party couldn't suddenly lurch in a new direction because the policies were clear and well known to all.
    But Starmer does not have that. No-one knows what he stands for, even his own party. Which means the in-fighting between the extreme left and not quite so extreme left will begin immediately. Expect Starmer to be gone in this election cycle, and this election cycle to not last anything like 5 years.
    Those two things may happen simultaneously, though I suspect Starmer will be replaced and possibly his successor to also go before the next election.

    • @stevesmith3990
      @stevesmith3990 3 месяца назад +14

      They also inherit a huge debt which leaves little room for their spending plans, the banks are the ones really in power.

    • @jimmyb79
      @jimmyb79 3 месяца назад +12

      Religious sectarianism within the party could also be a problem judging by the local elections.

    • @ChristineRead-ck1uq
      @ChristineRead-ck1uq 3 месяца назад +4

      You make some very good points there. I'm wondering what the Corbyn effect will be. If anything splits the Labour party it could be the Momentum factor.

    • @Monkey-fv2km
      @Monkey-fv2km 3 месяца назад +5

      Seems like very reasonable predictions to me.

    • @ajikpajik9331
      @ajikpajik9331 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@user-bf3pc2qd9sI remember seeing Michael Foot on TV as a child. I genuinely thought he was a tramp and couldn't understand why he was with the politicians. It took my parents quite some time to convince me he was the leader of the Labour Party.

  • @johnnykama8356
    @johnnykama8356 3 месяца назад +2

    Superb discussion. I wish the BBC was like this. But then again, you are the new BBC.

  • @dcoughla681
    @dcoughla681 3 месяца назад +12

    Communication skills are essential for a successful political leader:
    Margaret Thatcher, Donald Trump, JFK, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama
    Those who don’t have great communication skills will fail:
    Gordon Brown, William Hague, Ed Miliband, Theresa May
    Rishi Sunak was like a geeky hedge funder giving a presentation to a client with his white board.
    Keir Starmer was like a lawyer who would persuade you to plead guilty when you’re innocent.
    Both seemed utterly clueless. That’s why Nigel Farage was such a breath of fresh air by comparison.
    Also, political leaders should be honest about why the UK has declined so much (particularly outside London). My take is that globalisation and advances in tech have ruined livelihoods. 40% of British children go on to university but graduates are ten a penny. If I’m an employer & want to hire a new grad & the work can be done from home, do I take the Brit on £20K, the Hungarian who’ll take £15K or the Indian who’ll take £7K? No British graduate wants to work in retail, as a carer wiping bottoms or be a taxi driver. That’s work for foreigners. This change in world order has affected where people live in this country and whether to emigrate or not. Tech is where it’s at. That’s why King’s Cross, Battersea & Cambridge all look prosperous & shiny but the rest of the UK looks like a slum. Although working from home is common, people still need to come into the office in cities as visibility still counts as the big decisions take place in meetings held in the office & having contacts/networks ensures you’re not on the outside looking in.
    We’re not the only ones in the Western world with this problem. Greece & Italy produce the highest number of law grads but there are no legal jobs there & they don’t want to be olive pickers. 70% of Portugal is empty. People emigrate to where the jobs are - either legally or illegally, usually headed to an already overcrowded western world.
    In 5 years’ time, AI & robotics will have kicked in & whoever is in government will look at giving everyone UBI. Then the fun will start.
    Honesty and integrity matter.

    • @pixie3458
      @pixie3458 3 месяца назад

      Excellent comment

    • @lint8391
      @lint8391 3 месяца назад +3

      In some ways Donald Trump has terrible communication skills.
      Get him in a room and he'll talk over everyone else and do minimal listening to what other people say.
      He also tends to lie and exaggerate as a compulsive part of his speaking.

    • @dcoughla681
      @dcoughla681 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@lint8391 Yes I agree but he connects very well with his core audience - he talks their language. How can you tell when politicians are lying & exaggerating? Whenever they open their mouths.

    • @veroniquendambo3242
      @veroniquendambo3242 3 месяца назад

      This is well said.

    • @dcoughla681
      @dcoughla681 3 месяца назад

      @@veroniquendambo3242 The art of persuasion by Juliet Erickson is good for sharpening comms skills.

  • @MarcusCorbett
    @MarcusCorbett 3 месяца назад +5

    Also the Prime Minister is man who was instrumental in imprisoning a journalist without charge or trial indefinitely in solitary in a cell 3 × 2mts.
    When chief of the CPS he illegally allowed his correspondence with the US relating to this case to be deleted.

  • @advocate1563
    @advocate1563 3 месяца назад +68

    Bank of England and IMF now runs the UK.irrespective of prime minister. Level of our debt precludes the luxury of democracy and given all western vountrues in the same mire this is being globally co-ordinated.. Ask Liz Truss. Voting = performative arts at this point in the cycle.

    • @Nuts-Bolts
      @Nuts-Bolts 3 месяца назад +12

      Yes. Much of this analysis ignores what these unelected heads of such organization will have us do.

    • @kenricnarbrough8191
      @kenricnarbrough8191 3 месяца назад

      Perhaps massively relax border control? That might sort everything out yeah?

    • @-ipf8978
      @-ipf8978 3 месяца назад

      @@kenricnarbrough8191 Can it relaxed more than it is already?

    • @chrismillar4474
      @chrismillar4474 3 месяца назад

      It's called Global (American) Capitalism. BoE and IMF are just facilitators for capitalists and capitalism. Of course capitalism is orchestrated on a global scale, that has been part of the objection from people at the arse end of it for years

  • @bbslj9040
    @bbslj9040 3 месяца назад +4

    You don’t necessarily need more money in the NHS you need to get rid of all the private companies sucking all the money out first and then organise from there for the benefit of patients!!!!

  • @maxinedurling3425
    @maxinedurling3425 3 месяца назад +9

    So the Greens got 4 seats and the Reformers got 4 seats it would have been nice to see how many votes both partys got

    • @pevebe
      @pevebe 3 месяца назад +12

      Reform 4 million, Greens about 2 million

    • @kerrynewnham8946
      @kerrynewnham8946 3 месяца назад +2

      20% of vote share combined and 1% of the seats

  • @HC-xl2en
    @HC-xl2en 3 месяца назад +56

    No mention of the Muslim stanglehold Labour has to deal with. Especially in London. The capital city.

    • @ChristineRead-ck1uq
      @ChristineRead-ck1uq 3 месяца назад

      Or of the 'independent' Muslims elected.

    • @chrisdraper845
      @chrisdraper845 3 месяца назад +11

      Labour don’t care. They appealed to the Muslim vote by saying they’ll recognise Palestine as an official state.

    • @evertonporter7887
      @evertonporter7887 3 месяца назад +10

      Also in Birmingham, where Labour lost some of its seats and had its majority eroded in inner city areas to pro-Palestinian independents.

    • @JoeBeThere
      @JoeBeThere 3 месяца назад

      You mean the party that concocted a fake antisemitism campaign against Jeremy Corbin? Oh yes they must be Muslims. It laughable

    • @AB-ol5uz
      @AB-ol5uz 3 месяца назад

      @@evertonporter7887 Native Brits NEED TO FIGHT VERY HARD AGAINST THE MUSLIM Growth/Immigration into the Country. DO NOT ELECT THEM into city/national leadership roles. Their goal is to take over Europe one country at a time.

  • @marieparker3822
    @marieparker3822 3 месяца назад +36

    I believe Rishi Sunak was/is a good, highly intelligent and extremely hard-working person. But he is not a leader, and he is politically tone-deaf.

    • @ProudSanghi108
      @ProudSanghi108 3 месяца назад +5

      I totally agree. He has a class about him. He is respectful to even people who abuse him. However, he is not a leader. He does not have charisma. Also, he knew he was boarding on a sinking ship.

    • @ribbonsofnight
      @ribbonsofnight 3 месяца назад

      He obviously wanted to be in charge though. In a position where making all the right moves would have caused him to lose on a big scale he made a lot of wrong moves and lost on a bigger scale.

    • @soniavadnjal7553
      @soniavadnjal7553 3 месяца назад

      Well, he wasn't his own person really, was he?

    • @mithrandirthegrey7644
      @mithrandirthegrey7644 3 месяца назад

      You are a fool.

    • @kerrynewnham8946
      @kerrynewnham8946 3 месяца назад

      He was a chancellor who seemed to have no vision apart from making a business friendly economy

  • @Paulkazey1
    @Paulkazey1 3 месяца назад +9

    My fear is that because economic progress and public spending is so constrained Labour will go all out on Woke. The Labour revolution will be similar to the SNP and become hectoring and puritanical.

    • @jackiedelvalle
      @jackiedelvalle 3 месяца назад

      Yup. Censoring will be off the chart.

  • @tropics8407
    @tropics8407 3 месяца назад +12

    Libdems, the quiet assassins

  • @odiedodieuk
    @odiedodieuk 3 месяца назад +6

    Zero seats failed.
    This was a trial run boys!
    We will get both of them next time. 😂

    • @Ichioku
      @Ichioku 3 месяца назад

      What is Zero Seats? Only heard the term after the GE.

  • @queenie1949
    @queenie1949 3 месяца назад +25

    🩵🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🩵 5 seats well done REFORM 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
    I’d be interested to know how the 4 independent seats won by the Independent Muslim/Gaza coalition compares to the Reform Party seats won by number of votes cast?
    Makes the case for proportional representation even more relevant.

    • @AnonymousBosch
      @AnonymousBosch 3 месяца назад +6

      If you want to play that game look at Sinn Fein, 7 seats for 200k votes. On that ratio Reform would get 130+ seats.

    • @MartinMenge
      @MartinMenge 3 месяца назад

      Frankly, PR will lead to a super-centrist coalition that will dominate for decades.

    • @queenie1949
      @queenie1949 3 месяца назад +5

      @@AnonymousBoschyes indeed the whole voting game in the UK is a nightmare. The voting system set up in the UK is open to manipulation by the government in power who gets to dictate the constituencies boundaries. The same three parties get to control the electorate, so it looks like a choice.
      I don’t know if I like the two party system in the US either. Tactical voting by the public is now an art well known, open to manipulation.
      As for Proportional Representation, it has its faults, less stable governments etc. However at least the politicians keep their eye on what the electorate thinks and needs. We all now that much of Europe do what they want behind the backs of the voters. Setting up quango’s and obscure committees that supposedly take the flack instead of government.
      Labour, with their massive majority, will follow this practice and move democracy further away from the electorate. By the next election we won’t have anyone to blame and our rights in a democracy will be non existent. Dr David Starkey has spoken about this issue recently.

    • @CL-he4jz
      @CL-he4jz 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@queenie1949of course, this is exactly what Blair did, used power to hang on to power and make MORE power...and he ensured his friends would head up the qwangos and ngos and committees that took power out of Westminster.
      look out for more constitutional change / lawfare, hard to reverse.
      Reform understand this and want to do alot of REPEALING.

  • @razzledazzle7580
    @razzledazzle7580 3 месяца назад +7

    One thing i would worry about with Labour is if they go down the PFI route to stimulate the economy and we end up with another big black hole on that again.

    • @avae5343
      @avae5343 3 месяца назад +2

      We’re already in a black hole. The UK’s public finances are a disaster and neither main party wants to talk about it, hence both manifestos were essentially more of the same:

    • @Ichioku
      @Ichioku 3 месяца назад

      PFI/PPP was the biggest con ever perpetrated on the tax payer. Largely implemented by Labour.

  • @Pid75
    @Pid75 3 месяца назад +6

    I have no idea who Freddie supports. The hallmark of a good journalist/commentator.

    • @paulmcgreevy3011
      @paulmcgreevy3011 3 месяца назад

      He’s a lefty.

    • @zumamaya2396
      @zumamaya2396 3 месяца назад

      He clearly has bought the 'Russia Bad' narrative (From earlierposts), which suggests he's a little more establishment than he appears - still like the show though.

    • @miketomlin6040
      @miketomlin6040 2 месяца назад

      @@paulmcgreevy3011 No he isn't!!

    • @Pid75
      @Pid75 2 месяца назад

      @@zumamaya2396 i agree. We all have our blind spots. That is his.

  • @CaroleMatheson
    @CaroleMatheson 3 месяца назад +2

    Reform all the way 👌👌👌👌🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @plokijm22
    @plokijm22 3 месяца назад +2

    One of the main reasons I feel the Tories collapsed in the way that they did is not because they became "centre left" like Reform voters suggest. They just became incredibly statist, a complete antithesis to true small c conservative values. They were ploughing out legislastion constantly, throwing money left, right, and centre as a central policy. That's where I think they failed. They became too heavy a government for people to tolerate anymore. Unfortunately, they've replaced it with Labour, the party of Statism 😅
    Plus, the idea that Labour 'won' is astonishing when they just had a landslide from 33% of the popular vote (25% if you count the full electorate). 9 million votes for Labour when the Tories won 13 million in 2019... it's insane. Reform took the Lion's share of that Vote, taking over 4 million. I just think the way a lot of the media are talking, they're ignoring these basic facts to big up Kier Starmer.

  • @craigfowler7098
    @craigfowler7098 3 месяца назад +1

    4 out of 5 adults did not vote for them and yet they represent 2 out of 3 in parliament - how does that make sense?
    If you're not good with fractions I will state fractions with the same bottom number. Only 3 out of 15 voted for them, but they end up representing 12 out of 15 people.
    So their representation is FOUR times more than it would be under a PR system!!
    Keir, this is not a true mandate

  • @rachelsingleton2023
    @rachelsingleton2023 3 месяца назад +10

    Landslide is not a word I would use when you delve into the figures / numbers and meaning. If only 1:5 people voted Labour then that's not an overwhelming mandate to take over. What was indicated though is change is needed to make Britain Great again..

    • @kingflynxi9420
      @kingflynxi9420 3 месяца назад +2

      The people who didn't vote at all are happy for the people who did vote to decide what goes on

    • @ChristineRead-ck1uq
      @ChristineRead-ck1uq 3 месяца назад +3

      @@kingflynxi9420 Strangely the remainers never applied that to the referendum vote.

    • @kingflynxi9420
      @kingflynxi9420 3 месяца назад +1

      @ChristineRead-ck1uq I'm a remainer, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I think remainers were more upset by the fact the leavers spun up a narrative and lied about the effects of brexit tbf.

    • @rattylol
      @rattylol 2 месяца назад

      Lol!

  • @te4110
    @te4110 3 месяца назад +2

    1 in 5 people actually voted for Labour. Wow, indeed the electoral system seems to be broken.

  • @ragnarjakobsen7722
    @ragnarjakobsen7722 3 месяца назад +32

    ReformUK 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇬🇧 all day!!

    • @richardcameron3762
      @richardcameron3762 3 месяца назад

      What about 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿??
      Isn’t being proud in this country all about being British? How come
      You didn’t run candidates in Wales and Scotland. Oh yeah that reason.

    • @razzledazzle7580
      @razzledazzle7580 3 месяца назад +2

      @@richardcameron3762they did run candidates in Wales and Scotland. Would be interesting if they go harder into Scotland next election

    • @richardcameron3762
      @richardcameron3762 3 месяца назад

      @@razzledazzle7580 just checked on Reforms website and I stand corrected 👍
      Thankyou

    • @MikeLawrence-i6r
      @MikeLawrence-i6r 3 месяца назад

      Er…. No not really

    • @chesterdonnelly1212
      @chesterdonnelly1212 3 месяца назад

      ​@@razzledazzle7580 UKIP did well in Wales under their system. I think we will see Reform in the Welsh parliament.

  • @outlawJosieFox
    @outlawJosieFox 3 месяца назад +1

    What is really happening is that trad Labour voters, like myself, will not vote for a Tory leader of the Labour Party.

  • @fhugheveleigh2
    @fhugheveleigh2 2 месяца назад

    To my mind this video reveals itself as the best election post-mortem discussion I have heard.

  • @MrSOLOPIANIST
    @MrSOLOPIANIST 3 месяца назад +2

    Very insightful ... Enjoyed the conversation very much

  • @roberthumphreys7977
    @roberthumphreys7977 3 месяца назад +2

    Actually, the Government was not punished. The Conservative politicians were punished. Does anyone actually think the Government gives a damn about the voting public? Where is the evidence?

  • @januarysson5633
    @januarysson5633 3 месяца назад +5

    Keir Starmer is the NPC meme with hair.

  • @sym8246-f5c
    @sym8246-f5c 3 месяца назад +5

    Zero seats. Had to be done.

  • @kynelevingston5704
    @kynelevingston5704 3 месяца назад +1

    Excellent analysis thanks. You are smashing all the mainstream (unwatchable) channels…

  • @JohnHaveaguessGoogle
    @JohnHaveaguessGoogle 3 месяца назад +3

    Your name "Unherd" may be unintentionally appropriate...such is life.

  • @andybadger2610
    @andybadger2610 3 месяца назад +26

    UK has seen Labour Lite for the last years… now it’s going to get the full dose of

    • @mikemines2931
      @mikemines2931 3 месяца назад +4

      Until other peoples money runs out.

    • @onepartyroule
      @onepartyroule 3 месяца назад +6

      Labour havent been Labour in decades.

    • @mikemines2931
      @mikemines2931 3 месяца назад +1

      @@onepartyroule Making excuses already.

    • @onepartyroule
      @onepartyroule 3 месяца назад +1

      @@mikemines2931 Excuses for what exactly? Theyre [insert pejorative]. Theyre only marginally better than the Tories in some respects, and in others theyre worse.

    • @georgerj2419
      @georgerj2419 3 месяца назад +1

      Hopefully this will teach the sheep who voted for labour a lesson.

  • @ppetal1
    @ppetal1 2 месяца назад

    "Relatively thin, but very broad coalition" sums this peice up perfectly.

  • @chrisholmes1736
    @chrisholmes1736 3 месяца назад

    You won't see in-depth analysis like this on MSM. A very good episode, thank you.

  • @davelewis7098
    @davelewis7098 3 месяца назад +5

    It was the tories that let in LD ?? if the choice was just reform they would now have 200 seats 😂😂 Nigel tell them your thoughts !! Sit on the fence at your own peril !! Political correctness is for cowards 😢
    God bless common folk

  • @furrygoose94
    @furrygoose94 3 месяца назад +18

    People who voted Lib Dem, as far as I can see, were Conservatives who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Labour as a protest vote, so Lib Dems seem justifiable 😂

    • @32446
      @32446 3 месяца назад

      Agree. Lots of tactical going on too.

    • @steveaga4683
      @steveaga4683 3 месяца назад

      Various websites were set up to inform the electorate who was best to vote for in order to get rid of the Tories. Many Labour supporters voted Lib Democrats in order to do just that...hence the 71 seats

    • @ChristineRead-ck1uq
      @ChristineRead-ck1uq 3 месяца назад

      Don't think so. LibDems got less votes than in 2019. They still got 60 more seats though!

    • @MikeLawrence-i6r
      @MikeLawrence-i6r 3 месяца назад

      I voted Lib Dem but I have never voted Tory in my life and have marched in London against the thatcher govt in the eighties

    • @furrygoose94
      @furrygoose94 3 месяца назад

      @@MikeLawrence-i6r Lib Dem’s stand for absolutely nothing, respectfully.

  • @elkpaz560
    @elkpaz560 3 месяца назад +4

    What the labour party wants to do aligns entirely with the institutions of this country, significantly the Civil Service. Add to that the Greens and the Lib Dems are essentially the same although appealing to a more affluent demographic, and Labour have very little opposition. Blair's permanent government will be completed.

  • @sookibeulah9331
    @sookibeulah9331 2 месяца назад

    In my constituency the Conservative MP lost to Labour by 152 votes.
    3144 votes went to Reform
    This is probably another instance of Labour wining a seat thanks to Reform rather than an endorsement of its policies.

  • @pondopondo1497
    @pondopondo1497 3 месяца назад +1

    I don't know, guys, but as an outsider, knowing Brexit happened, I'd go to vote for sure and choose the least worst candidate. I'm from a country that does not have any viable voting system, so I understand but do not appreciate the low turnout. Gonna root for you all thou, cheers from Eastern Europe.

  • @stevesmith3990
    @stevesmith3990 3 месяца назад

    Very good talk, lots of great points. Labour can only go downhill from here.

  • @spinmaster0
    @spinmaster0 3 месяца назад +2

    The real illusion is that people think voting is the only time that they have a voice. Even when you are voting, you will only be voting for the constituency, not the leader. Are people comfortable with waiting every 4 years to speak out via a ballot paper? As for voting itself, no point in voting when your own constituency has historically voted one way. Even with the ones where Labour won by a small majority, they still won.

  • @judymercer4691
    @judymercer4691 3 месяца назад +2

    thank you, excellent summary and analysis

  • @pixie3458
    @pixie3458 3 месяца назад +2

    Excellent analysis thank you

  • @juliekemp419
    @juliekemp419 3 месяца назад

    Great chat chaps - echoes and reassures my own thoughts re the rise and rise of Reform and the English Bulldog, Nigel Farage. HIs personality is re-working the scene for Britain's recovery. Britain has sunk low in a chronic depression that the ship of state needs such a fighter and great communicator to haul things back into shape. I'm grateful for your analysis of the fragility factor. An Australian 75yo F of longstanding conservative disposition. Thank you for your excellent site.

  • @nasreenakhtar8521
    @nasreenakhtar8521 3 месяца назад +1

    Labour are not left, more center right under Starmar

    • @steveglossop
      @steveglossop 3 месяца назад

      And I bet you think the current Tory party is right wing. You're lost mate. Lost.

  • @leslierosslentz1988
    @leslierosslentz1988 3 месяца назад +2

    Such good analysis, thank you.

  • @ollysanders2746
    @ollysanders2746 3 месяца назад

    Excellent journalism

  • @robertcook2572
    @robertcook2572 3 месяца назад +1

    That was an excellent discussion - something that's very rare, these days

  • @marcbra5074
    @marcbra5074 3 месяца назад +2

    National Service where our UK fit men & women loose their life in Ukraine for BlackRock & Global Financiers can make $ trillions & trillions from Ukraine lithium, oil & gas, & Rich agriculture land.

  • @corrupt1238
    @corrupt1238 3 месяца назад

    Excellent episode, thank you

  • @legendaryitem2815
    @legendaryitem2815 3 месяца назад +2

    This was an excellent video. From a first time watcher.

  • @martinjackman2943
    @martinjackman2943 3 месяца назад +1

    22% of the electorate is not a mandate for ANYTHING

  • @Nick-io9uk
    @Nick-io9uk 2 месяца назад

    Its funny how just a few years ago people were saying 'Labour will NEVER come back from this' and 'The Red Wall is gone FOREVER' just as people were saying the Tory party were no more in the IDS/Howard era.
    If there is one thing the establishment are good at its maintaining the two party charade. I'd like to say good riddance to the tories...but sadly I think they will be back.

  • @richardabbot8724
    @richardabbot8724 3 месяца назад +1

    Voter allegiance has fragmented because the demography of the UK has so drastically changed. Traditional British ways of doing things no longer hold sway. There's a popular saying that I can't quite remember, perhaps someone else can? It goes 'Import the...."

  • @grahambeastall6301
    @grahambeastall6301 3 месяца назад +1

    Excellent informed analytical conversation (as usual)

  • @Chris-q7v9e
    @Chris-q7v9e 3 месяца назад +1

    Great analysis. Interesting and insightful - really enjoyed it.

  • @johnhanson5943
    @johnhanson5943 3 месяца назад +1

    Beyond Dubious Oligarchy A moves to Beyond Dubious Oligarchy B, where A=B. Big Brother has landed.

  • @jeffhawkins1293
    @jeffhawkins1293 3 месяца назад

    Love them or hate them, Atlee, Thatcher, Blair and Johnson......they had a vision for how Britain should be .......this brings the public with them. Playing safe and being centric , with nothing really to say
    . This leads to 60% of the electorate not voting

  • @SubjectRandom21
    @SubjectRandom21 2 месяца назад

    The UK, under Labour, will be hell.

  • @marksutton5540
    @marksutton5540 3 месяца назад +4

    Now maybe conservatives can regroup without the bonehead Torry party.

  • @AlanWilliams-co3yc
    @AlanWilliams-co3yc 3 месяца назад +4

    The UK needs to ditch First Past The post. It needs some form of proportional representation.

  • @modestproposal9114
    @modestproposal9114 3 месяца назад +1

    Every 79 to 90 years capitalism has a massive crisis. 2008 was one such event, and it has been in a zombie since, dependent on state support with ordinary people getting poorer and the rich stealling all the wealth. Starmers Labour represents a continuation of this decline and will not last.

  • @deepoole820
    @deepoole820 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for this commentary. Labour didn't win by a landslide, maybe there's hope they won't last long.

  • @heatheraspinall1493
    @heatheraspinall1493 3 месяца назад

    Labour did not campaign vigorously in Scotland. I am in Glasgow and Scots voted Labour to get rid of the absolutely incompetent, divisive SNP.

    • @YesYes-xb6he
      @YesYes-xb6he 3 месяца назад +1

      Labour didn't campaign vigorously anywhere, they were so far in front in the polls they largely took an attitude of keeping quiet and not saying anything that might frighten away possible voters.

  • @gilyin
    @gilyin 3 месяца назад

    People voted for Reform because they want change, not more of the same. Not simply to get rid of the Conservatives.

  • @patjohnson-u8m
    @patjohnson-u8m 3 месяца назад +1

    Voting system needs change

  • @billturner6564
    @billturner6564 3 месяца назад +1

    Fantastic perfection in this interview.
    This is the best election analysis there has been
    So glad I am a subscriber
    And my 2p .... its only a positive that ever more and more people are waking up becoming independent because the country for to long has been trapped in a loveless marriage to Labour and Conservative
    With both parties free to do whatever they want because the vast majority of there voters were enslaved

  • @albertmaycock4941
    @albertmaycock4941 3 месяца назад

    No one bothered when the Tories got in with a minority of people voting for them. Get over it. It’s called first past the post.

  • @jenmazz1257
    @jenmazz1257 3 месяца назад

    Night night UK 🇬🇧 it was lovely knowing you. Love Canada 🇨🇦 Keep calm & carry on. We’re f***ed too! Trudeau must go! 😂 Great analysis. 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @funkyskypilot
    @funkyskypilot 3 месяца назад +1

    I believe the nation is expressing sub-conscious, suppressed and, to a certain extent, free floating anger rooted in the Covid experience. The fact that incumbent parties are losing worldwide, I think, bears this out.

    • @celiacresswell6909
      @celiacresswell6909 3 месяца назад

      Interesting take: we are far more motivated by our unconscious than most know

    • @funkyskypilot
      @funkyskypilot 3 месяца назад

      Thank you. It’s just a theory of course. It seems to me that people are suffering from “secular story fatigue” and are opting instead to explore other - often suprarational - narratives.​ Starmer’s “unburdened by doctrine” statement is a direct appeal to this big story fatigue brought on by doctrinaire Covid measures such as lockdowns and the suppression of public debate. What’s scary about that is that Starmer appears to think that the solution to doctrinaire politics is to have no explicable, uniting narrative whatsoever.⁠​@@celiacresswell6909

  • @jamesstevenson1296
    @jamesstevenson1296 3 месяца назад

    Maybe people in the UK are just fed up with politics in general. The Tory party's mismanagement, the let down of Brexit, the appalling premiership of Johnson and Truss and so on have drawn the enthusiasm out of the British public. The Labour Party offer stability but lack the excitement of a new tomorrow coming anytime soon.

  • @JustToSay442
    @JustToSay442 3 месяца назад

    A significant more intelligent and balanced conversation than ANY the main stream news channels ..

  • @MrNosnikta
    @MrNosnikta 2 месяца назад

    Excellent thoughtful dissection of the vote.

  • @Joanna7428
    @Joanna7428 3 месяца назад

    Reform ended up winning a fifth seat ! I voted for Reform and I'm sticking with them, they are the only ones I have any confidence in.

  • @colonelflashman972
    @colonelflashman972 3 месяца назад

    Great interview, well worth listening to, many thanks