Gold Making has never been EASIER - Guild Wars 2
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- Опубликовано: 26 дек 2023
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It's been a little over 3 months since my discussion with Aura on goldmaking in Guild Wars 2. Since then the latest expansion SOTO was released bringing in the wizards vault, a new daily reward battle pass system. Has SOTO made goldmaking easy?
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if getting gold is easy in GW2 then I am doing something very wrong
Mukluk made a video recently showing how easy it is. I'm no baron my self, and I do things money makers advise against (like instant selling on the trading post for that instant gratification), but I still do okay over time. It also depends on what your definition of "easy" is - this game isn't like other MMOs where millions of gold are common. Even a handful of gold at a time can be a lot depending on what you want it for.
Or, more likely, you're not really interested in making gold (like most players I guess). GW2 is easy to enjoy with zero gold after all.
@@AntonMochalinput it this way, I do 4 Mets a day that’s what 2 hours of my life everyday right ? Pretty much eat breakfast while playing.
Now that’s 4 amalgamated gemstones, now imagine if you multiboxed having 4 total accounts playing all metas everyday on those 4 metas.
That’s 16 amalgamated gemstones x 7 days = / x 1 month = / 12 months
That’s a crap ton of gold even if you only do it 2-3 times a week.
You come across sooo much shit when you play it’s insane plus the gold UnID bags that’s another 12-15 gold in ecto etc
A lot of folks also spend their gold really inefficiently
😂😂😂😂
Making gold easy confirmed.
Step 1: Do shit.
Step 2: Wear crown.
Step 3: Never organize your inventory.
Step 4: Make over a million liquid gold.
Easy clap.
😂
I'm a life long gamer, in my 50's. Unfortunately, I've mostly played mmos like WoW, ESO, etc. Those tend to have a more limited progression system.
I am very much enjoying and prefer GW2's approach. However, here's my challenge to overcome.
There is SO much to do, and the game tells you so very little. What's this for? What's a combo field? I know part of it is overcoming the vertical progression mentality, but a lot of folks are used to that and just throwing them in a mass of options isn't helping them "transition" much. It just leaves them exhausted with a multitude of buttons to push, but no idea what the outcome should be.
I really thing the game needs a better system of presenting goals that players can work towards, AND at the same time provide some means of tracking progress. For example, the griffon quest line. Without the youtube guide, holy crap I don't know that I would have had a CLUE how to do it. It took me a while to find where I could even track my progress on items accomplished for it, and even then it's really just tracking collection items.
Some folks just want an open book like GW2, no hand holding at all, and that's great. But some folks need some better means of identifying goals, and tracking them. They're more progression oriented, and maybe in the course of doing that they will come to appreciate GW2's approach more.
You nailed it. Played wow for 7 years came here 5 years ago and i just found out there is an addon that helps with world completion and routes like a guide. This game has so much to offer but mostly you find out on your own or youtube.
A suggestion: Follow the story line. But don't feel like you absolutely must do the story line and nothing else. In other words, do the story line, but the story line NATURALLY takes you towards things that you would have further interest in. Pursue those side interests that the story line called your attention to. Pursue those side interests ... continue the story line ... pursue those side interests ... continue the story line ... pursue other side interests that later parts of the story line called your attention to ... continue the story line ...
Ultimately, just treat the story line as a "tour guide" for you, where the tour guide actively encourages you to explore side excursions. Do all of this, let it all gel in YOUR OWN MIND ... and then let your own personal interests and tastes take you in whatever direction you feel like going as you proceed. The story line the story line the story line the story line the story line (and the additional content that you purchase that continues the story line, etc.).
If there is stuff that is going on all around you that you have absolutely no idea what is happening, I guarantee you that with the overall approach I've mentioned above, somewhere along the line you'll see how all the confusing extra stuff relates to the ......... story line.
The game does a terrific job of giving you context on exactly what part of the story line you're on at any moment, and you can replay any part of the story line any time you want, depending on what any particular character has unlocked.
I love GW2 and I agree 100%.
I think the best advice for those who want to make more gold in GW2 is not some particular routine but rather some general principles like:
- don't sell stuff to ingame vendors if you can sell it on TP
- salvage into materials before selling
- consider extracting valuable upgrades before selling
- don't "sell immediately" if you're not in a hurry
- you material storage section of the bank has a lot of valuable stuff that can be easily turned into gold
- try to compare your options when deciding what to do with your stuff (crafting, keeping in bank for yourself, salvaging and keeping the mats for yourself, selling on TP etc)
- think about where the price is going to go based on expected supply/demand (e.g. before/after festivals)
- your gear template is a form of storage, you can come up with a fun build by just throwing there the best equipment that you loot and don't see the immediate use for.
Etc etc. Material storage is actually a genius idea by ArenaNet to keep gold value low, a lot of players including myself have tons of mats they don't use and that can be sold for serious sums. You're rich, you know xD
I think big issue is that players spent faster than gold produced, and basicallys starting from zero everytime even though they got something that added value to their account.
In my opinion best tip, to not feel poor everytime, more from psychological perspective is to make a rule for yourself like to not spent more gold than a certain limit (that you feel uncomfortable and feeling broke). For example you never spent gold to get under 100g or 1k g etc
I think part of Anet's challenge at this point is the gulf between what the casuals make and what the true money makers make. I remember seeing a graph someone put together that the casuals have a linear money acquisition rate and the veteran money makers' line was at least quadratic. It's great that those who know how can get rewarded for their expertise, but it does skew the market overall. I also appreciate the difficulty of adding rewards that are gold sinks that the in-game rich will actually throw their gold at without also getting complaints from casuals that it is "pay to win".
Casuals love GW2 and generally don't complain except for the kind of people which just always complain about everything. And actually the fastest gold price movement we've seen recently was brought by Wizards Vault introduction i.e. by those casuals getting gold from dailies and weeklies and buying stuff with it.
The game shouldn't be balanced around the barons... Thats more like how the real world economy works lol
@@SteveWray the game isn't balanced around barons, gold economy is quite good - it's not hard to make gold if you set such task but gold has value, GW2 doesn't throw ingame currency at you like quite many MMOs do. And you can get gold with almost anything you do in the game - map completion, jumping puzzles, farming resources, crafting, fishing, regular mobs, metas, instanced PvE, WvW and if you optimize for gold (which I never do as I play for fun) you can improve gold per hour very substantially.
I used to make a surge of gold by making a legendary almost passively once a year per account. I did every Big Spender daily for WvW Reward potions, which was always enough to get 80 a year in line with 91 clovers from Loyalty choice chest. Then do a 100% map completion on each account every other year, selling unneeded mats and loot from those keys. Dungeon gifts were from Currency Vouchers purchased during festivals. Only 7 hours minimum of work per account each year. 1700-1900g instant sell legendaries.
The Wizard Vault made the legendaries I craft to 1000g instant sell. Also the number of clovers are less. The best time for gold to make from the vault is also limited.
So my 7 hours on each account a year from before would turn into fifteen minutes per account every day, totalling to 92 hours a year per account. 13 times the work for half the gold.
I only do the limited purchase, tradable resources/gold from the vault every season on alt accounts. Then don't touch them except to try hard for festival bag opening/selling. I won't be doing map completion or grinding the lost mystic clovers to make vault legendary weapons. It isn't worth anyone's time except for on their main account. The occasional amulet essence and selling mats I don't need is all the gold I care to get now.
I never expect a reasonable player with only one account to make this game their main unless they spend money on the game with all the changes devs make that devalues unique drops.
People spend too much time trying to min/max salvaging greens and blues when they could just go kill a few more mobs and make up the difference anyways. Once you play enough, you'll quickly just see where you gold is building up. As always, with any game, the point is to have fun. If you stress about gold or trying to maximize every single thing you do, you're just making things worse. Eventually you'll get into a rhythm you like and it'll all come more "naturally". One horrible habit too is feeling like you HAVE to login to do your dailies, farming, meta events, etc. You will burn out QUICK doing this and I highly recommend NOT playing the game this way.
that is the inventory of your average WvW player
The video discusses various methods for making gold in Guild Wars 2, emphasizing the importance of having a daily routine and understanding the game's reward system. The speaker suggests that players can make gold by focusing on a specific goal, whether it's a legendary weapon or a specific meta achievement. The video also highlights the importance of having a plan and sticking to it, as well as the benefits of participating in daily activities such as the Weekly Vault and raids. Overall, the speaker believes that making gold in Guild Wars 2 is relatively simple and accessible to players who are willing to invest time and effort into understanding the game's mechanics and content.
Can they move to gen2 or gen3 in wizard vault? You can own SOTO without owning any previous expansion, so you wouldn't be able to craft it.
Gold is easy for veteran players... because some of them have 10-20K hours or even more... at that point even doing mundane things will have given someone a lot. For a newer player, not so much.
Also playing for more than a couple hours, maybe one hour, a day after work and an afternoon on the weekends. Because we don't have a job creating content and streaming the game. If ONLY!
I am in guilds with different instances and I can still only farm 1, am I doing there something wrong?
I think I heard in anothe video from another creator that it depends on which level those guilds have these resource nodes. If you are in 5 guild and the first one has level 1, the second level 2, the third level 3 and so on... then you can farm all of them every day. But if they have the same level on these guild nodes then they count for all guilds if you collect in one guild.
I guess it's something in the system of the game. I seems to treat the nodes with different levels as different daylie resource nodes for your account but if you collect in on level 5 in one guild hall that the game makes the checkmark on "collected daylie level 4 nodes" on your account.
So if you want to farm all 5 guild every day then you need to be in guilds who have different guild levels for the nodes. And they could never upgrade those because then is the same problem like described above. ^^
it's so much easier with wizards vault, 44g a week from the 30 astral 1g reward, so there's aprox 12 weeks in a season, so 528g a season, and thats just straight gold, that's not doing the leggy starter pack which if you were to sell those after you make it thats easily 1.5k-2k gold from that 1 leggy which is more than double doing just the straight gold route and all you have to do is the freakn daily/weekly in the vault. Right now i basically could buy 1 gen1 leggy and use the starter pack every quarter so that's 8 leggies a year, but before the wizards vault i'd be lucky to make 2-3 leggies a year.
so glad you made that video 3:30
I dropped from the game the game right before SOTO because I felt stuck in the progression.
Like there was a circular dependency between game mechanics to make progress, and I was in a deadlock. (Content -> Gear -> Gold -> Materials + Masteries -> Achievements -> Content).
Has SOTO improved things? Is it worth getting back into it?
Most of the issues that new players have is not going to gw2efficiency and finding out what materials they need to craft something specific. Without that they are just shooting in the wind about what to do. the "Making the plan" part is the trip up. Then you have to "know" how to farm the mats. WHich metas give what rewards specifically. How do you farm Globs of Ecto, Mystic Clovers, Where to farm all the pieces for the Mystic Forge. What the recipes are for the mystic forge!! The problem is the same as its always been when Vets try to give newbies advice, you forgot where you started. Even the videos out there detailing how to create legendaries do not go in depth to the grinds required. They just assume you know how to get the mats.
Every other MMO out there has a decently straight forward economy, NOT GW2. Events give you things and unless you know very specifically what those things build you didn't make 4g on that meta. You made about 35 silver and some mats you might be able to sell for another 85 silver. Though if you know the very specific item you can craft that you can sell from doing that meta 30 times and you can sell it for 120 gold, THen you made that 4gp per run.
In almost 500 h and the only first 2 exp HoT and PoF i have farmed gold for all 3 salvage o matics, Candy Gobler, 2 bank tabs, 2 storage upgrade and LW 2 and 4. Only doing Auric Basin meta, RIBA and fractals. Well, this got me burned out, and i quit GW 2 for almost 2 years
But now i am back, and i will not fall for the same mistake again: to grind blindly like crazy. Now i enjoy the story, the world. And i still have EOD and SotO ahead, so no need to rush anything. I think this is the most important rule to follow: to not go crazy on farming
Why I want gold? Because I want to buy living world season 2,3,4😂
It sure is easy to have get gold if you have time to invest getting the gold. But I found that when I actually put in a lot of effort to get gold, the amount of fun I'm having drops drastically.
Therefore id rather be a poor little shit who's having fun than a miserable rich boi who wants to quit the game.
Now for you, the person reading my comment, you may be able to have all the fun in the world grinding for gold. For me its not the case though. It never works for me.
If I grind I get miserable. Its just who I am. It'll never change and I'm ok with that.
OMG, what a inventory mess 03:44 xD
well, the Barons think making gold in Guildwars2 is even more easy now. i guess it Arenanet's turn to heavily nerf it then.
I don't think we should expect any such nerf, gold value drops and that's what Arenanet wants to make gems more attractive. Since SotO release with its Wizards Vault gem to gold exchange ratio doubled. I'm seriously considering investing all my gold into gems if gold price falls 10% below current level.
It becomes easy to make gold as long as you have enough gold to make it. starting out it's hard but gets easier over time.
The comments in gold making videos are always so wild.
How about maxed out home instance and 20 accounts farming them daily all with volatile gathering tools 😂
yeah, i can make 120g every 2 days without wizard vault
What do you do ?
First!
All of these gold making methods make you peanuts in terms of gold per hour.
If you want to make Guild MM levels of gold per hour, you just need to become an oil prince irl and swipe or hire people to farm for you.
Are you saying that's what Guild MM or other barons have done?
If one was a tiny bit interested in gold making they would buy gems with all gold they had after looking at Wizards Vault on the day of SotO release. Gem to gold ratio doubled since then and this was super easy to predict. And there's a ton of such predictable things in GW2. Each festival creates such opportunities for example.
If you have a decent RL job it doesn't matter. You can buy whatever you want in this not "P2W" game. It's also easy for someone that played for years that it's easy since you've probably opened all WPs, have all content, have multiple alts, own quality of life upgrades and have gold to play the TP.
@@FoulPetSure, but paying real money for gold doesn't feel right to me. Getting gold in game contributes to a sense of progression that I wouldn't get if I just bought it with real money.
There's also a lot of fun to be had in making gold and finding a way that works for you.
@rgentry9 Yes, but not everyone thinks that way. The game is fun, but overall, the cash shop makes it awful. Plush mounts wreck any hope of immersion. You can just buy a cool looking skin. You have no need to actually earn it. Most look equal or better than legendary gear. I usually have enough gold to do things I want, and I don't farm it.
no its not. feel free to give me some.
GW2 has one of the most balanced economies of any MMO,
Once you have full legendary you have nothing else to spend gold and your gold starts to stack up at that point
If u have full legendary and your gold start to stack whats the point of still playing the game