Do Heavy Objects Actually Fall Faster Than Light Objects? DEBUNKED
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2023
- Falling objects both fascinate and confuse people the world over. These are the laws of physics that affect our lives everyday, so why is it so hard to understand and why are there so many misconceptions surrounding this topic. We simplify the mind boggling science behind it all so that we can all understand what’s going on. Do all objects fall at the same speed? Do heavier objects fall faster than lighter ones? Experiments in vacuums have muddled the facts when being applied to real world conditions, so let's set the record straight and explain what’s actually going on.
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do heavy objects fall faster than light objects?
do heavier objects fall faster than lighter objects?
do heavier objects really fall faster?
does weight affect fall speed?
do more massive objects fall faster?
does heavy or light fall faster?
why do lighter objects fall faster?
why do heavier objects fall slower than lighter objects?
do lighter or heavier objects fall faster?
does weight affect fall speed?
do you fall faster if you are heavier?
what factors affect falling speed?
does weight affect speed?
how does weight affect the rate at which an object falls?
does mass affect the speed of a falling object?
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Actually, if you can measure it arcuately enough, the bowling ball will always hit the ground first because it is less affected by atmospheric drag (compared to the force exerted on it by gravity) no matter what height you drop the balls from. The difference will be miniscule from a height of a few meters though.
THIS!!
I knew it!
Thank you ... its sad that people both (a) don't understand that gravity works the same regardless of weight and (b) on any planet with an atmosphere, atmospheric drag should be considered.
Let's take out air completely, if we can measure as accurate at the levels billionth of the width of a proton we will see that the heavier object "hits" the ground first, because a heavier object has its own gravity too which attracts the earth towards it. But of course the difference has no practical meaning.
The question stems from the elimination of the outside factors of such as drag. We know which one hits the ground first. Thats why you can't survive falling from a building but a squirrel can. 1 the squirrel isn't heavy enough to produce a velocity big enough to kill it and 2. The drag on it due to it being so light negates the fall. The question still remains true though, they both fall at the same initial velocity, regardless of any factor. TERMINAL velocity, however, is a different story. But, if both objects fall before reaching terminal, they hit at the same time. That's not up for negotiation.
Thanks, Stu & the rest of the Debunked team! I love seeing new content from you. This is a good one, too.
TL:DR Q: "Does gravity exist" A: "Yes."
B. Not No
C. Don't forget air resistance!
No we are running out of gravity.
D. It's all a simulation
D: sir Isaac Newton invented it
hey I must say it is a pleasure to stumble on a channel that goes in details about questions that are commonly brushed away with a simple but inexact "well known" answer, I am a mechanical engineer and I'm more and more concerned about the false assomptions that are becoming common in the field so thank you for your great work in explaining these phenomenas !!
You can always go into further detail, like the fact that the stated G will be different than real because noone accounted for Gravity weakening with one over the square of distance. G=M1*M2/R^2. Where R0 is the radius of earth, and object dropped.
@@user-zn4pw5nk2v yes. And the fact that the drag is depending on the velocity is not explicitly said here too. In general it was taken into account here but when he explained the reason for the difference between the steel ball and that heavy blue ball he explained it with a constant force. In fact the drag increases with the velocity. So it is not constant and as the balls get closer to their terminal velocity the difference in the acceleration increases. It is basically a continuous process. All the different forces that contribute to the movement are not really constant but change depending on different factors. The gravity is depending on the mass, which is constant for each ball, and the distance to the ground. However, the distance to the ground doesn't cause a big difference if they are dropped from the same height. It only changes the predicted time until the ball hits the ground. The fact that the drag is depending on the velocity and that this change is much more rapid than the change in gravity is basically the reason why there is a terminal velocity at all. The density of the air is also a factor as he already said at the end of the video.
Bro, I learnt this in detail in primary school ( elementary school if you're American, or under the age of 10)
@@RC-nv6rcmy first when I saw the video title was “didn’t Galileo do that a while back”
Agree. There is more and more stupid in this world and unfortunately much of that is thanks to a bad academic system.
Having said that, this educational video is also built up in a to complicated way and is repetitive. Treating people like they're stupid results in stupid people.
I enjoyed this, thanks.
Since you already included a brief shot of skydivers, you could also have mentioned that an object that can change the amount of surface area it presents to the air resisting it can influence its freefall velocity. This is exactly what skydivers do in order to catch up to those who have exited the plane before them, and also (more subtly) to stay "on level" with the people they are jumping with.
Just like a flock of birds. Nice.
What objects do you have close to hand to test this out right now?
My balls
Working on Wind Turbines, I could chose from a variety of heavy tools to drop down - for science:P
@@Kezenmacher Sounds like a cool job!
I could drop a few cats from the top of my house. The question I have is, will they land on their feet?
@@diyeana aha sounds like a new Debunked in the making! Thanks Melissa 👍
Its great to see you implementing real life clips into this video, hopefully we get to see some more irl footage in future videos :)
It's definitely something we're keen to do in future videos, where budgets etc allow. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thought before the video: It depends on the hight you drop it from. There are to major forces that work here. One is the gravitation and the other is the air resistance. The gravitational force is constant and dependend of the weight of the droped object. The other gets greater the faster the object falls. At the start both balls accelerate with normal falling acceleration of ~9.81 meter/second². The faster the balls falls the greater is the influence of air resistance and the acceleration slows down. The heavier ball will allways be faster if droped in the atmosphere but the difference gets unrecognisable at low hights.
If dropped in a vacuum they always hit , air resistance plays a part without it
Or how good your camera is
This is THE explanation of non lab fall physics I needed for at least 10ys, concise, easy to understand, well animated, with some IRL footage ontop - thank you.
well, need is an overstatement, and the reason for it is banal, but still, things that knaw at you in the back of your mind after an argument in reallife and/or online. One of these was about a story where a character could change their weight and through that, among other use cases, fall faster, and a lot(!) of people came along with lab-condition rules to claim its lack of realism, totally ignoring air resistance, terminal velocity etc (not that I could explain that well enough, but the argument always was 'that's negligable' .... now I will lead them here :D )
Glad you found it useful! And I totally get where you're coming from. Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍
I would be curious as to what you mean by the character would be able to fall faster. I know if someone told me about a character that could change their weight and was able to fall faster by increasing their weight I would give the same response that the character wouldn't actually fall faster. However that is because the wording makes it sound like if they increased their weight their acceleration would go beyond 9.81m/s^2 which would be mostly incorrect (Unless the character could increase their mass so much that the acceleration due to gravity increased by a noticeable amount). However if you were explaining it more as the character could increase their mass to reduce the effect of air resistance during their fall making their acceleration stay closer to 9.81m/s^2 for longer then I would agree but again that would only be really noticeable in very long falls and most of the time how the character positions themselves during the fall is going to be the main factor in their air resistance.
If you slow it down you can see the bowling ball start slightly above the basketball and the bowling ball hits the ground slightly before the basketball. And this is before terminal velocity takes affect.
I could counter that thought by saying the bowling ball is smooth and the basketball is not therefore it will create more drag.
Yes and if you look carefully, you can see he is not standing in a vacuum
When analyzing the forces on a moving ball, if we assume both balls are at the same speed, we can see that for a light ball, the air resistance is large relative to its gravitational force, while for a heavy ball the drag is small compared to the gravitational force.
Because of this, drag has a much larger effect on a lighter object, and a heavier object will always accelerate faster and reach higher speeds than a light ball when falling through a fluid.
Important calculation is whether the ball will hit the ground before Empire State building security can catch you.
😆 indeed!
Great video. This channel is so underrated.
One other way to think about it is that the speed of the ball is impacted by two forces - 1) The downward force of gravity 2) The upward (backward) force required to push the air out of the way. These forces cause an acceleration by Newton's Law rewritten as a=F/M. Since the force due to gravity is Fg-Mg them the acceleration caused by gravity is the same for all objects a=Fg/M=Mg/M=g. This is not true for the acceleration caused by the air. That force is not affected by the mass of an object but only its speed and air resistance so since a=F/M, if you increase the mass of the object then the acceleration will decrease and since that acceleration is upward (backward) the object will fall faster. The velocity when this value is the same as the acceleration due to (g) is the terminal velocity since at that point the two accelerations cancel each other out and the object will stop accelerating (its velocity will stop changing).
To be honest I would love more lessons about physics
In the first situation,(empire state building hight fall, in regular atmosphere) the bowling ball will hit ground first - It's high enough that atmospheric drag would come into play, and I daresay that the basket ball would reach terminal velocity.
However, in a vacuum they'll hit the floor at the same time.
Which do you think will hit the ground first?
At the same time. A simple thought experiment demonstrates this. Imagine a light object tethered to a heavy one. If they fell at different speeds would the lighter one cause the heavier one to fall more slowly or would it cause the lighter one to fall faster?
Hence a contradiction. So they must fall at the same speed.
Edit. The last experiment demonstrates I hadn't taken air resistance into account. 🤦🏻♂️
Going back to the penny drop... What if the balls were the size of the penny (albeit spherical)? The mass is greatly reduced and therefore the air resistance. With that in mind, I would like to think the terminal velocity would be achieved much faster for even the heaviest.
The best science channel on youtube, Veritasium, made a video called "How dangerous is a penny dropped from a scyscraper?" which you might find interesting.
1:30 heavier ball DID hit the ground first even despite being released a bit higher.
Yes.
Yes
Great that you've filmed your own stuff too on this one!
Thanks, we hope to do it more in future videos - budgets depending.
Best explanation I’ve seen the the topic. Well done
I waited 15 years for this. Finally a relief.
"But the kilogram of feathers is lighter..."
-- a confused Limmy
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This gets interesting once you consider buoyancy due to air, and if you actually "know" that the two objects do have the same _mass_ , vs. merely the same _apparent weight_ in air.
@@sternmg so it's not so confusing, the high surface area and lower density of the feathers in comparison to steel produces a lightening effect because of buoyancy.
Perfect! I was happy to see that the interesting effect of the air resistance and terminal velocity was not walked around. This is the complete story.
All I know for sure is if you drop a 5-6 week old kitten [onto a pillow, from asafe height], it will land feet first.
In a much longer drop, say from 2000 feet, the basketball will hit it's V max much sooner than the bowling ball due to air resistance. From a short drop the difference might be in fractions of milliseconds and would depend on very precise release.
Check out the part from 11:00 onwards
If dropped one at a time so that they can't effect each other the heavier object will hit in less time. The only reason it's not apparent with bowling balls is their negligible mass compared to the Earth. For example if it were a case of dropping a bowling ball and a neutron star then the latter would hit first because the Earth would rapidly fall towards it too.
Interesting point, but any situation extreme enough for that to be significant would likely deform the shape of the planet prior to the drop, which I think would actually lower the surface gravity of the planet. Though I’d have to think about this some more.
@@LeTtRrZ I suppose that my point is that although the bowling ball's attraction of the Earth is so small that it's probably less than the width of a proton it's still there, the Earth would still move and by more than with the feather. The reason I suggested dropping each individually is that otherwise it's much like taping the objects together, Earth is being pulled in the same direction by the combined mass of both if dropped together. There's also the point that rather than the objects falling towards the Earth, they and the Earth both fall towards their barycentre, which given the difference in sizes is somewhere very near to the Earth's centre of gravity. It depends on how picky you want to be but tiny effects are still real even if barely significant
At first I was like meh I know this subject quite well. Then I was like ok that’s something new. Great video.
1:30 What's up with the weird cut where the balls are way further of each other but then much closer when hitting the ground? 😂
Lol, you’re the only one to have mentioned it but it bothered the hell out of me in the edit! Bad planning between the wide and close up shots, budget didn’t stretch to 2 slow mo camera 🤷♂️ Thanks for watching and commenting though 👍
Was expecting you would include the Apollo 15 demonstration with the hammer and feather.
1:34 how can i achieve this situation ( what is the proccess to get this type of situation 😅)
It's so weird seeing Stu in a t-shirt. Kind of like seeing your uncle without his token beard.
😆 I don’t actually remember why, but my animated character has always had a white t-shirt on, so I thought I should go with continuity and match as we were bringing the experiment to life. I hope it didn’t ruin it for you? Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍
Thanks for the explanation!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
I know that in a vac they'll fall the same, but air resistance slows the lighter object slightly
A couple of bonus mathematic statements would have rounded this up nicely.
Like drag is velocity squared. How to calculate terminal velocity etc
Technically the heavier one is also pulling on the earth by an infinitesimally stronger amount than the lighter one, making it *technically* faster by a tiny, tiny, tiny, amount. But for the sake of simplicity, yes,it is the same.
There is a moment where you drop the balls and they fall at the same rate.they all get to a certain point where all 3 of them fall equally untill air resistance and acceleration affects them.physics is a bit strange of a thing but the video explains it way way better than schools will ever
Best explanation ever!. Thks
Pretty much what I expected, but good to get some of the concepts discussed in detail.
What you expected is wrong. They can’t reach their terminal velocities from that height
If mass attracts mass, why wouldn't the object with more mass get pulled down to earth faster?
I see we’ve reverted to the first style of animation, fair enough, I was starting to miss Stu’s animated alter ego
Good to see stu back!
Thank you Someone On The Internet
this video in 12min taught me what my uni physics professor couldn't in multiple 2.5hr classes/labs
With or without air resistence?
Question about finding the heavier object's terminal velocity: Why not instead of increasing the height, you just start with a greater initial velocity like -100m/s at t=0 instead of 0m/s at t = 0?
Go back and watch the house drop, they don't hit the ground at the same time for the same reason you describe at the 9 minute mark. They are just so close together you think they hit at the same time.
I like this man intonation - it is full of science pasion.🙂
What if we drop a ball the weight of 10 suns (say some dense stuff like a neutron star) and a basketball.. which will hit Earth first?
That ball would not drop. The Earth would drop to the ball ;-). The basketball would not fall to earth but to the superheavy ball. Earth as we know it and the basketball would be obliterated.
Commenting before watching ... I think they'd hit the ground at the same time if dropped in a vacuum... but with wind resistance affecting a basketball more than a bowling ball, over a high drop, the basketball may skew more to the side and take longer to drop.
Shoutout for the conserve ¥ you go to evenpoint, RELEASE the two > 1 falls, the other int even. For mass stays SAME, when releasing some a is byproduct. Descending is in a way faster, for it ultimates in an impact, than orbiting. FASTNESS give by Fg < a,N
What if in theory I had a really really tall vacuum chamber and I drop a heat resistance ball from the top, can it reach the speed of light?
They only fall at an equal rate when falling in a vacuum. Once atmosphere is introduced to the experiment, multiple factors then come into play, leading to the bowling ball landing before the basketball does if dropped from a sufficient height.
The two object will have different terminal velocity so if you drop it the a high enough height you should see a different.
So what might be the fastest an object move due to gravity after being dropped? For example a one ton lead filled aerodynamically stable arrow or dart dropped from the space station.
This is actually something under development as a weapon. I think it's called "arrow from god" or "project thor", something like that. Don't remember what speed they would reach, but it's stupidly fast, and has a massive amount of kinetic energy.
I'm actually more confused than i was before watching this.. thank you!!
yeah lol same like first half: yeah yeah got it, second half: what?
Bro tried to sneak in V-sauce and thought we wouldn't notice
I tried to tell my teacher not to wake me while I'm sleeping in class because "I'm an object at rest and objects at rest tend to stay at rest" but it didn't work 😂
They tend to stay at rest if not acted upon by external forces ;)
Where is the practical test with this building ??
1:34 just don't mind the two different shots
In vacuum everything falls at the same speed. As simple as that. There was a little bit of a popular science demo when one of the Apollo astronauts on the moon dropped a hammer and (i think) a feather and they fell at the same speed..... and that's not because of 'the moon' but because of 'the vacuum'.
I'm sure people forget about them falling the same...in a vacuum
An astronaut actually did the test for folks back home…on the moon. A feather vs a weight and of course with zero atmospheric drag the result was as expected…both landed together.
which will reach the terminal velocity first ? lighter object or heavier
08:25f
The 2 heavier balls won't accelerate at the same rate but the heavier ball will accelerate at a higher rate long before the middle ball reaches its terminal velocity.
To get more clear differences just repeat that experiment with two balloons of identical size and shape, one filled with air and the other filled with water. Dropping height of 1 meter will be enough.
I would argue, the bowling ball also would hit the ground first vs the basket ball, giving a longer distance..ie, more time.
Increase the size of the balls until one is the size of Jupiter and the other is the size of Earth. Release them separately and measure the time of takes.
The Jupiter ball will hit the The ground faster. It attracted Earth in it's direction. Using a single frame of reference, it fell faster
The only thing that would affect it are things like air resistance or wind with very heavy vs light objects. or shapes due to the wind.
But its Meter / second ^ 2 mass doesn't come into it AT ALL.
given enough Distance the lighter Object will slow a touch, a drop of a few dozen feet, or many even 200 feet may not show much difference
Could you make a video about which weighs more, a pound of feathers or a pound of bricks. Because I feel like if you gather a pound of feathers, the air in between the feathers will add to the weight. But not sure if that can be debunked. Or maybe if its 100 pounds of bricks VS 100 pounds of feathers, might it then have a difference?
There’s definitely something in that idea 🤔 We’ll have a think about it, thanks for commenting and watching 👍
@@DebunkedOfficial Or instead of feathers switch to cotton. It's probably easier to see if the air makes a difference on regular cotton vs compressed cotton
Which is taller? A 5 foot stack of bricks or a 5 foot stack of feathers?
@@arothmanmusic equal, because length measurements are still. Meanwhile weight & velocity measurements can be affected by air, pressure, and a few other elements like shown in this video
It is important to distinguish weight versus mass. A kilogram (mass) of helium (at ambient atmospheric pressure) has negative weight.
I tried using chat GPT to answer the same questions. Taking to account the same parameters it came out with different answers. Why?
With all the back and forth between FTL possible or not and the poor analogies used on both sides, I think this channel needs to tackle FTL.
That’s why parachutes don’t work on the moon despite having low gravity. Air resistance can also generate heat if objects fall at a much greater height such as a meteor which falls to earth at the minute it enters our gravitational pull.
But doesn't drag increase with mass and velocity ?
Just want to say here, Galileo's experiment in Learning Tower of Pisa between 1589 and 1592. Do we still need more!!!
Drop the balls from the Empire State and you’ll get a different answer, I believe you need to watch the rest of the video 🤔
Haven't watched yet, but the heavier object (aka bowling ball) will land first on the ground because it reaches it's terminal velocity first.
If there is air or any other gas wind resistance will make the lighter one slower. Difference might be too small to see but if you meassure accuratly enough or make the difference big enough you will see it. Try an air filled balloon and a ball and see if you can see a difference...
Would depend on if the basketball hits it's terminal velocity before reaching the ground from being dropped from such a height. I'm fairly sure the basketball would if dropped from the top of the Empire state building, so the Bowling ball would hit first, unless the bowling ball is a very light variant with a subsequently low terminal velocity. Now if you are asking which would hit first in a vacuum with no air resistance, the answer would be neither or both since they would fall at the same rate without slowing down due to air resistance.
Additional (or instead): Do *denser* objects actually fall faster than light objects?
*Sentence case* seems more suitable to "question titles" like this.
You can't debunk a *question!*
another blast content from you guys!! algorithm please hit my fellas up! 🗣️🗣️🔥
Thank you! 😊 we tried really hard with this one to make complicated physics accessible to everyone. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
So, if each ball was dropped from the height needed to achieve their respective terminal velocity and were dropped at the exact same time, would they hit the ground at the same time?
That’s what we originally thought would happen, but from a height like this that is not the case. Watch it again from 08:35
2:18 no one is going to call out the Wilhelm scream?
The terminal-velocity of the basketball is much lower than that of the bowling ball. You gotta' take them higher to get a decent test and expose this. Anyhow, it isn't "heavier-versus-lighter", it's which one is more aero-dynamic. If they're the same shape, then the one that's *denser* ... not heavier.
Why complicate that much?
The one that will hit the ground first is the one with less air drag, doesn't matter the weight. Given the time and velocity necessary for it to get in action.
2:19 you kick the ball with feet yet the knee took the pain
lol
Question:
Why snake venom is much stronger than it needed to kill it's prey instantly. How the snakes around different places of same species have difference in there venom compositions. Example Inland taipan
and then, even if there was no atmosphere, we would have to consider that bowling ball has stronger gravitational field than basketball and will pull the earth stronger, so relatively to the earth a bowling ball would still reach the ground a bit faster then a basketball even though there's no air
If you remove air resistance there is another factor to consider. The object the balls are falling towards. The steel basketball, having a higher mass than the normal basketball also has a higher gravity in itself. Therefore, if they were dropped from the same height from opposite sides of, lets say the moon. The steel ball would still fall faster (at least relative to the moon itself), albeit by a potentially immeasurable amount, as the moon falls ever so slightly towards the steel ball and away from the basketball. Of course if they are dropped side by side, this difference would be even closer to impossible to measure, since the relative movement to the side will have a far less appreciable effect.
Sir, but acceleration due earth is constant and independ of mass - galileo
It didn't boggled the midns of all of us. Aristotle said: the heavier objects MUST fall faster because they are HEAVIER.
Didn’t he also (wrongly) think that an object that is twice as heavy falls twice as fast?
ýes its true that the weight doesnt effect how fast something is dropping but the air resistance does. becausse the bowling ball is smaller it automaticly makes it the object that will hit the ground first if let go off at the exact same time, dropping it by hand from 2 meters high while cutting the final drop multiple times is the most unscientific way to show it
Thank you very much
Watching this I immediately thought of "The Rods of God". Its an actual theoretical weapon using telephone pole sized tungsten rods dropped from space. They would accelerate to around mach 10, and cause a crazy amount of damage.
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you don't need all that. just drop a nuke.
The bowling ball will land first, because it has a smooth/polished surface, so will be less effected by the atmosphere, on the Moon they would both land at the same time, although the Moon does have a minuscule atmosphere that's leached from the rock.
Does the bowling ball take the same time to drop to bottom when dropped on earth vs on the moon
Spot the crime scene outline of the skydiver who's parachute failed! 🤣
So gravity alone doesn’t intensify the gravitational force based on the weight and mass of an object but atmosphere AKA air does give resistance and has a greater effect on lighter objects because of a lesser weight and velocity on air molecules. I think somewhere in this experiment is the answer to why super massive black holes at the centre of galaxies propel stars around it evenly throughout when again our intuition would have us believe stars closest would be more affected and orbit faster.
in the first drop the bowling ball actually did hit the ground before the basketball and was not the same time
a = g - Drag/m, Drag dependes on velocity only for the same shapes. Smaller mass m larger Drag/m. That's why lighter ball comes last.
Apollo 15 also demonstrated the same thing on the moon with a hammer and a feather.
Correct, we originally had this in the edit too but the quality of the footage wasn’t clear enough to illustrate the point as well. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
"dont do this at home" ok then imma just go outside onto my house