The Tommy Cooker - Gates of Hell Memes
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>Knows Bo's panzer is lying in wait
>Doesn't use recon, smoke, artillery or AT support
>Whines when his tanks keep getting blown up and claims it's German bias
At this point it's not even bias, it's just a MAJOR skill issue.
Yeah it is kind of boring to watch not because Bo's winning but because there is LITERALLY no threat from the opposing player, kind of like a few of the recent HOI4 videos where the opposing team seems to be able to do nothing meaningful.
Chill he's taking notes from Russian offensive doctrine bro
To be fair it is kinda stupid that a tank with one crewman can reload faster and effectively fight fully crewed fresh tanks.
I mean the one guy reload does show the bias of the game. Always has been kinda present in Men of War titles. Sometimes more sometimes less.
In several instances, the sherman is the one who shoots first, only to miss weirdly and got destroyed
-Stands in the middle of an open field
-Gets sniped
-Complains of bias
3:30 "We need to check their posting history in 4chan" lmao i love Braun
Shows what he knows about 4chan lol
@@desichalkos5627 Isn't 4chan where the Nazis are (well, there and Gab)? Or do I have it backwards and it's the Stalin-bois on 4chan? Or do I have it completely wrong, and it's neither?
4chan is just an image board. There are nazis, commies, etc on there, but it leans towards the former more. Haven't looked at gab enough to comment on it.
4chan is just an image board. There are nazis, commies, etc on there, but it leans towards the former more. Haven't looked at gab enough to comment on it.
@@delrunplays2903 You misunderstand. 4chan is an anonymous image board with no accounts. There is no "post history" on 4chan.
7:22 >shoots angled tank wth apcr round
>gets mad it got deflected
"The Sherman is a death trap!"
Meanwhile average russian tank: has a reverse ignition, so if a dead tankman sets its foot of off pedal, the tank accelarates to crash into enemy positions
Not sure where you took this bs from but a reverse ignition is not the same as a reverse clutch.
Also having superior armor and a lower profile ads more value to surviveability than having more space lmfao. Please look at the tank surviveability onion next time before spreading freeahboo cope ;)
@@dwarow2508 Didnt the Sherman have one of the highest crew survival rates while T-34 being shit? Not sure anyone is coping but you
@@dwarow2508 how many T-34s were produced and how many of them survived the war? And no, the superior armor myth is so stupid, doesnt help that you have sloped armor when your crew can barely see, move and operate without getting exhausted in a short amount of time. Secondly the quality of the armor was absolute dogshit so even the 37mm pak gun was able to kill the crew without fully penetrating the fucking tank.
@@Rumpelpumpel3they did. They had good armor, burned about a normal amount until wet stowage made them incredibly good, and most importantly had excellent ergonomics making it very easy to bail out.
@@dwarow2508 the m4 literally has more effective thickness on its front plate, what are you talking about.
Tank users when an anti-tank cannon in a defensive position does its job against tanks out in the open: "Oh my goodness! So much Bias!"
Edit: Also, I'm pretty sure that Men of War is far from an accurate depiction unless you believe that generals can just possess soldiers or entire tank crews out of the blue.
Boi, I bet Chesty and MacArthur woulda LOVED that.
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow The Chinese wouldn't have been ready for MacArthur's Korea Gaming levels of Micromanaging skills
Company of Heroes Shermans: 😊
Men of War Shermans: 💀
That one guy was a vet 8 that massively increases their skills in all there baseline skills like tank loading and accuracy that’s why he reloaded quicker be a standard just spawned M10 tank destroyer.
Ayyy more Gates of Hell content!
I think you're one of the only RUclipsrs who does videos like this on Gates of Hell
Uses a rocket launcher to clear a trench line. "Ah Yes! The American way of battle"
As somebody who is seasoned enough in Gates of Hell I will break a few things down to maybe improve someones gameplay, a lot of things in this video came down to a lack of gamesense:
0:20 - It was already dead, you can notice by it burning, burning vehicles will not take any further damage because they are already considered broken.
1:00 - Guns in manual control will favor the upper half of the reticle when shooting, resulting in more shells going over than under, unless when there is terrain in the way, RNG will gravitate more towards the thing that is closest to the vehicle (crude explanation but good enough)
1:17 - The "up armored" sherman only features an additional armor plate welded onto the right cheek of the turret
2:30 - crew switch is instant, at the point of the kill the crewman was at veteran 6, buffing the reload ability
3:00 - what can I say, bad micro, he inted the 3rd or 4th tank into a spot where he knew a panzer 4 with a high powered gun was literally waiting for vehicles to come and shoot, should have scouted ahead with infantry and drove up there with manual control already enabled, there is only 1 crewmember in the Panzer 4, something that would be very easy to exploit
4:49 - open side, not immediately retreating, not deploying smoke, he basically accepted it at this point, he didn't even try, he might not have gotten out, but every shot you don't take is a miss, he appearantly knew that another HIGH POWERED panzer 4 was coming, so rotate the armor and greet it with an AP shell, open sides like that make me feel uneasy but that may be my reflex talking
5:23 - a pointless waste of resources at that point, a bazooka can one shot a Panzer IV, considering how Bo keeps pushing with his tank without much infantry support it would be pretty easy to pick it out of the fight with a bazooka, it's also way cheaper than an anti tank gun that's not gonna punch through the front of a Panzer 4 anyways
5:57 - you keep shooting until it stops moving (or glowing red on the map) until then you can assume it alive
6:08 - M10 to the side go brrrrr
6:24 - should have switched to AP after the first shot, would have been a guaranteed kill, HE is only good against open tops and VERY lightly armored vehicles, the Sd.Kfz. 231 is not one of either
6:37 - the sherman is too far up front without infantry support, a Panzerschreck is gonna punch right through it and disable it, being this close up front is only good temporarily and should be followed by a quick retreat or infantry pushing up
6:47 - well, be aware of your surroundings, stuff like this can happen but a defense in depth strategy with tanks is not really a good idea, he should have pushed up to regain control
7:14 - it's not, you just need to aim and wait for the reticle to get smaller, you don't need much accuracy with 300mm rockets
7:50 - yes
7:54 - doesn't matter
8:05 - that's where the front and side meet actually, it's an intermediate plate and at that angle I would expect it to bounce, 2nd shot was into the lower side which of course went through and right into the ammo
Not going through all the facts, but the first one is wrong lmao. You can see on the minimap if a vehicle is still recoverable and the vehicle is still on the map.
@@Bokoen1 no u
@@Bokoen1If a vehicle’s engine is on fire, it’s either already broken or going to burn. This is why you learn to fear the Molotov cocktail.
@@Bokoen1Once fire gets started its over, no matter what will minimap say.
Is there an explanation for hetzer bouncing an su 122 on the side btw?
Bo's cooking with Sherman(s) like it's Atlanta
Greatest southern bbq.
The one german dude in the tank being Michael Wittmann himself breakdancing in the tank to cover all positions at the same time at maximum effectiveness
all while using signal flags for the others
Bo I don't want to pity farm so I'll just say I really enjoy your content when I've had a bad day, thanks for making it.
Hang in there, bud 🙂
German bias in MY WW2 game? Naaaaaaaaaaaaa!
>Video Starts
>Tank blows up, no commentary
kek
Pog a new Bokoen Video
Thanks for the arrow pointing in the thumb nail. I wouldn’t have guessed the Sherman 😂😂
It’s a beautiful day when we get another Braun rage video. I hope he had to edit this
Remember kids; only early run Sherman’s had a reputation as a death trap, Mid/late war Sherman crews had one of the highest survival rates for tank bailouts of WW2
They're not even a "death trap" in the first place compared to other tanks of it's time
Maybe because they were massivly used mostly in end of war, when most german troops were located on east?
" highest survival rates "
Maybe because the entire Germany army was already on the downturn and the Americans barely had an enemy to fight because 85% of the Wehrmacht was laying in the ground in Russia and Ukraine
@@johnclay2716 Brother, it was a fact that the Sherman have the highest crew survivability rates in WW2 if you exclude the Churchill, which is the ACTUAL highest, and amongst the Sherman casualties, the Brits got the highest because their crew wear berets instead of helmets
@@johnclay2716Cope, Wehraboo.
The one PzIV got a very high Veteran Status. One Guy is enough to crew it.
When did Octodad join the 3rd Reich?
@@damoclesecoe7184 something something hail hydra?
The best tank of the war momment or at least the more forgotten one 0:07
I'm seeing a lot of Shermans not equipped with the wet racks, unless it has the wet racks its ammunitions like any other vehicle of the time.
Bro, I just eat up bokoean1 everytime.
Good to be early for a new Bokoen and the boys video. The awesome wins and terrible fails are hilarious!
At least they can make some burgers, hotdogs and smores when the tanks become a grill!
6:40 thats why it has 8 wheels, loosing one or two are immaterial.
I remember in mowas2 they were pretty reliable against all medium and even some heavy German tanks, once I even knocked out tiger with Sherman in editor
Bo never fails to fill us with his hot creamy delicious content! 🥰
Least fruity bokoen fan
Bo never fails to fill up my cheeks
oh god not the npc comments please god no
Noooo can't belive those comments made it to this channel
Sus
Its just German steel baby.
Damn the Sherman skill issue...
"I know there's a German tank there, let me just keep driving into it so I guarantee it gets the first shot off."
My sherman still operating after the cook off
Choking is not wrong the AI on gates of hell is dogshit compared to MOW2, Ive noticed that the ai for tanks will never notice another tank, and have a really bad target priority. Then also the path finding for them too is really bad for both ai and vehicles. I also noticed for AT guns for some odd reason will move around instead of holding a firing lane (rotate the whole body), which is really frustrating because they love targeting infantry over vehicles
I've pretty much stopped playing the game due to the bad AI. Trying to move an infantry squad out of a mortar barrage, only to have them stop to reload _before_ moving is one of the most frustrating things ever. That, or they'll just randomly stop to shoot something. Or just ignore your commands entirely.
they call shermans the zippo for a reason
Babe wake up, Bokoen uploaded Gates of Hell
Bo getting gangster on Braun’s tanks.
I think sturm fur has made a realism mod for gates of hell
Braun needs to check his diet as he is overdosing on sodium
Sherman's forgot to a take wet ammo rack 😂
Gamers when a German tank cooks off three Shermans in a row: "Why does this game have a Germany bias?"
Germans irl when they cook off three Shermans in a row but there's seven more behind them: "Why does this game have an American bias?"
Ctrl+c Ctrl+v
Any day I get to hear braun cry is a good day
It's almost harvesting season
These dollar store 88s are not bussin
Message to Braun: I understand.
I blame Bo for my addiction to
Gates of Hell Ostfront.
not me thinking i clicked a hoi4 vid confused by the opening card
Idk what they're on about, whenever I play America the German tank crews are turnt to pinballs.
This games great, play it with my friend all the time
Devs be like, "My honor is my loyalty" type shit. 😔
My eye
German infantry shrugging off bazooka rounds prove no armor best armor
Gotta feel for that guy that got bazooka'ed just like in battlefield not CoD holy fuck bo
Gates to Hell: It burns on impact, its a tommy cooker!
Real world Tank Enthusiasts: Nuh uh uh
Thats why Sherman's have nickname "lighter" ^^
USA: Creates the most versatile tank that fights on every front of the war with the highest crew survival rates of anyone else.
Germany: tOMmY cOOkEr
It got it's reputation from the early run...the one that had horrible survival rates...
The one without wet ammo stowage
real gates of hell ours
Panzer 4 的初次命中率本來就比較高，再加上M4、M4A1 、A2A3 的裝甲本來就沒有很高，很容易就會被幹掉的
再加上指揮官上，很多都是已經被發現埋伏了
no bias
from a us tank commander or smh from ww2 it was us tactics to drive 3 tanks to get atleast one behing the german tank so they could destroy its weakpoints (rear of the tank)
wait you can play coop story missions?
good video
It was posted 1 minute ago
@@baconhairbacana1964 and it was indeed a good video
cool
Sherman with its irl burn rate of 20% (after wet ammo stowage) and the us suffering less tanker kia than any other major nation
Good job at conveniently not mentioning the cook out rate before WSS and the fragile fuel injections literally setting the tank ablaze on it's own whenever it climbed a small hill before 1943 versions lol.
Also funny how you try to bring up the low knocked out Shermans rate while ignoring that the USA fought the least out of all majors in ww2, deployed the least percentage of tanks and only used them when the enemy was on their last legs lol.
Tell me again how those M4s did in 1942 against the Italians during Torch lmfao
@@dwarow2508 I have never heard of that first thing, so please provide a source for that. I would be very interested to hear about it.
The Italians were not at torch? Or are you talking to some followup battle to operation torch? (Which may I remind you, led to an allied victory, even though the us troops were greener than a green Pea)
@@dwarow2508 do you not know how percentages work? If the tank was acutally bad, the percentage would be high as it is qualitative. Learn math.
Sure.
Most tanks Bo cooked off were non wet ammo stowage ones though.
I know people don't want to hear it and downplay it but the name "tommy cooker" was created for a reason.
Non (W) shermans had catastrophic ammo cookoffs.
@@ikat_tracer You do realise that Wet ammo stowage doesn't prevent a tank from cooking off?
7:21 that ricochet was sexy af
dang it 45 secs and im not first love your vids bokoen
9:17 You mean Dressel I believe.
All that coping by Braun is just music , always gets skill issued by Bo
Time stamps:
Beginning: 0:00
End: 10:45
wait what was that at 1:42
shermans arent meant for being thrown at tanks, they have tons of infantry killing firepower but weak against armor. just use a 57mm for that f2 and upscale if needed
Wtf you smoking bro, the 75mm is now way in hell weak against armor, stop spreading lies about the Sherman
@@AHappyCub it's not weak against armor, but if you throw the Sherman at a tank it's not gonna do the best, especially the way they were put in the open
@@noahd62117 that is a skill issue on the operator, not the fault of the tank
@@AHappyCub "stop spreading lies about the Sherman"
Stop getting personally offended because people have different opinions about old military hardware...
@@fsociety6983 it's also not a lie that Sherman's weren't meant to fight enemy armor lol, go look at the doctrines of the time and how they were meant to be used. Although they were often put into situations where they had to fight armor that wasn't its Express purpose
More Lethal Company and Fifa
What dlc is that?
蘇聯裝甲才是真的BIAS，到處都可以被打穿的地方不管怎麼打都守得下來
尤其是HE，應該可以炸死組員的零距離爆炸都沒有事，連SHOCK都沒有
su-122 has a decent armor. i know it from war thunder, as it also came to my surprise how so many of enemy bullets just deflect from this armor.
He was also firing APCR at it's heavily angled side...
You know...A round that only performs well on non-angled armor and deflects easily due to it's extremely pointy nature
Devs release realistic Sherman, community complains about bias. Not to be a weherhaboo, but the Sherman is famous BECAUSE it was easily replaceable. If anything cost of the Sherman should be brought down, and just deployed in mass. One goes down? So what? We got 100 more where that came from fresh off the production line baby!
Play Men of war AS2 modded! it'd be so fun! (literally steam workshop)
The Sherman just sucks ass in this game cause all the ammo is stored in the turret basket we’re most of the shots from a AT round explode
Every single tank in the game is set up like that barring wet stowage Shermans. They all have ammo in the turret or placed in the sides.
7:50
Welcome, the evolution of Men of War or in other words: Just play Assault Squad for an overall better experience lol
How the hell did Germany lose ze war?
Corn
braun just need to shut up, he sen tank with no line of infantry for being eyes of the sherman, and take the trap EVERYTIME, sherman maybe bad, but him he need to desinstall the game instead of raging for his own lack of talents, thx
Braun deserved what he got that first game... who the fuck uses the M4A1... quite literally the most shitter version of the Sherman there is fuckin LOL
Also isn't "Tommy Cooker" the nickname given to the Cromwell or am I misremembering?
The more I see this game the less I want to see of it, 75mm gun hitting the side armor of a td and doing nothing is fucking ridiculously bad balance
"Truly the best medium tank of the war" Chieftain Propaganda®
Mid-War era Shermans in Gates of Hell don't have AP shells with explosive filler like they do in Late-War era. I don't know how much the game takes that into account (being inside a tank penetrated by a solid shot is still not fun regardless of if it explodes after, no shit) but it really makes them feel impotent compared to later, especially when the meta thing isn't even to use Pz4F2s, but rather the F1s, because the HEAT shells are both incredibly accurate and effortlessly mince Shermans and T34s both and the firing arc means you can fire from behind cover. Seriously, using those things feels like exploiting.
The US faction isn’t bad per se; it's just all the guns except the 90mm are shit, and the 90mm is meh at best
The Sherman was supposed to be cheap compared to the German tanks, it was the whole point. It allowed the US to mass-produce them to an absolutely insane extent. They produced 50,000 Shermans in only three years and that's despite the fact that making tanks was really not the US priority given their initial focus on Japan. Meanwhile, the most produced German tank was the Panzer III of which they built 15 000 over 6 years and most of those were already destroyed by the Soviets by the time D-Day happened. A German tank is absolutely supposed to 1vs1 a Sherman. But can they 1vs10 them? Because that's pretty much the odds Germany was actually facing.
The Pershing was the American tank meant to be able to 1vs1 German tanks, not the Sherman.
They produced 40 000, not 50 000 but yeah. Also they only deployed a small fraction of those.
@@dwarow2508 literally looked it up before writing my comment, it was 50 000. Actually it was ''more than 50 000'' but you know.
You know, I always heard that, and I still believe it to be true, but why does the Wikipedia pages for the Sherman have it being more expensive than the cost listed on the Panzer IV page
Unless its factoring in labor costs in which case I can understand why the Panzer IV would officially cost less to produce
The Sherman was very capable of 1v1 panzer 4s and all lesser tanks as shown throughout the war. The Sherman was mostly superior to the pz4 especially after the 76mm upgrade.
Even the big cats were often defeated by the Shermans, there are several battles where Sherman 75s defeated panther counterattacks. This was also in part due to allied superiority in air power and artillery but still.
Iirc there was one case where a platoon of 5 Sherman's (which btw is the smallest operational unit of shermans only reason a uni would send less than that is if they had suffered losses) killed several Panthers by just concussion the crew with HE. Iirc without any losses
@@giantWario
50 000 in total, 40 000 in ww2. Literally from wikipedia
Man all the RUclips historians in the comments here spewing factoids at each other.
Along with the skill issue on the US team.
The way the armor in this game is simulated is really dated and shitty
Everyone knows German tanks were the best ever and had no problems whatsoever and could one shot everything. That's why Germany won the war, guys.
5 Shermans for a Panzer 4! Best tank of the war
For sure. That's why they won!
obviously germans didnt lose because they were 3v1'ing the most powerful nations at the time, they lost because their famously good tanks actually sucked !@@Wegetsu
@@noir1923 Well it was both actually.
@@noir1923I remember playing with german tanks in War thunder... not a good experience.
Warthunder has a pretty nuts german bias (and russian bias as well). Comes from all the casuals picking those nations and then getting fucked keeping the winrate down. @@indecision3835
first?
lets gooo boooooooooooooooooooo
I'll take German bias over the same old Russian bias
Russian bias didn’t exist in any game ever made
@@nsdapcommunism2780 looks like SOMEONE hasn't played sex with hitler 2
@@nsdapcommunism2780 ok nsdacommunism2780
@@nsdapcommunism2780 Good joke.
@@Chopstorm. Right
Look the Sherman was one of the tanks of world war 2 and was nicknamed the Tommy cooker for a reason its only saving grace is the fact its easily repairable.
It's not german bias, this game just sucks
Tommy was a nickname for the British and the Sherman was American.... So this title and thumbnail makes 0 sense xD
Tommy cooker is a well known description.
you know if you don't know something its okay to google it
Why do people get surprised? Lol. The advantage of the Sherman was in the numbers. It's pretty obvious that in a situation of numerical balance of a game, A german tank will have the uppehand
Numbers and crew survivability, which isn't really reflected in the game.
Exactly, so I really don't understand the whining lol
you can't simulate numerical superiority in GoH, everyone has the same pop cap
@@lilc234100 you also can't simulate competence. Braun was clearly lacking in that regard
Nah. The Sherman had a lot of soft factors going for it that made put it on pretty even footing with the P4.
Oh this game _absolutelty_ has a german bias. And it's not even just in the gameplay. The game has always given me the impression that, even in moments like briefings and cutscenes, the germans are always doing some eroic action, a brilliant defence against the enemy, or a cunning and overwhelming attack, or something like that. While, for the soviet in particular, it's the exact opposite: even when they're winning, it's always implied that they're somewhat desperate, struggling, fighing tooth and nail against the germans. Just look at the art for the game: two wounded german tankers helping each other after their tank (obviously it's a goddamn tiger, because it's always a tiger) has been taken out, whike russian tanks burn behind it. It's so pretentious and obvious.
Or, you're just super sensitive to any mention of the Germans in WW2...
It's all 100% in your head. Both sides are portrayed as more aggressive in offensive missions and more desperate in defensive ones. That's just narrative, not bias.
@@fsociety6983 dunno man, the "defence" of Berlin is a skirmish where you literally push back the soviets. The first mission of the russian campaign is an _actual_ desperate defence where you have to protect a road with like, 2 AT weapons, a bunch of infantry, and after half an hour of continuous tank spamming, you get 2 early-war tanks and an AA gun.
The first true german defence mission has you fght with plenty of soldiers, two defensive lines full of 88 guns, each one with multiple ammo boxes around it so you don't even have to worry about ammo for a very long time. German bias in ww2 RTS games is so common, it's actually frustrating
Absolutely there is a German bias the Germans had the best equipment of course there is a bias it’s just fact 😂
People been so brainwashed by post war US propaganda that sherman was the best thing ever that they ragequit when they send them against a pz4 with a kwk40 and face the expected results lol
It was objectively better in terms of crew survivability and there were much more of them because it was much easier to mass-produce.
The soviets were literally scared of the PaK 40 which could knock out KW-1s, the KwK 40 is the same thing just as a tank gun, a sherman is easy work for a PaK 40
Is the sherman the worst tank of the war? No, of course not, japan exists. Was it named Tommy cooker for a reason? Yes.
Sherman vs Panzer IV was a pretty even match irl.
@@ikat_tracer Every British tank was named a tommy cooker during the war because Africa was hot and the British cooked inside the metal boxes called tanks. It being applied to burn rates is a post war misallocation.
@@user-xh9pu2wj6b
"easier"
>looks at US industrial capacity
Yeah...That's why there were more compared to the Germans who had to create them in batches due to them lacking the industrial capacity to mass produce them
Not because their industrial base was so massive and they could afford to be horrendously wasteful
As for crew survivability you're already blatantly lying by ignoring the early war statistics on crew survivability