Great video Ben, some good points there. For the next video, I've always loved long exposure photography and although I'm limited with shooting on the iPhone, I love seeing pictures when done well and I think that's the key, like all photography, when done well, all the trends have there place! Keep up the great work and I hope you do this sort of thing again after the final one, they have been very enjoyable.
Wow Ben, really cutting to the quick there with your comments on the quality of the video work. I think that just like photography, video is definitely a journey of improvement. Let's see, trends... Once upon a time I was caught up in the crunchy HDR trend. Now, as with most of the photographic community, I will still use HDR as a technique, but keep it toned down to a more natural looking image. Of course, with a lot of the newer cameras having greater dynamic range, there isn't nearly as much need for it either. I've found times that I'll shoot brackets to merge together, and then use just one of the images because it has all the information that I need. You mentioned long exposure, which I don't necessarily see as a trend, but a technique. There are some photographers that do mostly LE photography, and they do it well. I would love to do more myself, but rarely have the appropriate subject for it. I think that it's definitely something that will stick around. ICM, have to mention that. I've seen some ICM images that just look very painterly, but the majority just look like the person needed a tripod. I really haven't experimented much with it myself, but that's likely because I've always been of the mind to get in focus images with minimal to no camera shake. ICM is really just the progression from the old zoom blue effect. We don't see that much anymore, but it was a big thing several years ago. Okay, I'll stop there. I've really enjoyed these talks of yours. Thanks for including me in them.
@@BenMcDonaldPhotography oh, thought of another. That trend of shooting through a glass ball. I can't count how many photos I saw of hands holding a glass ball with an upside down scene. It was cool for about 5 minutes, but overstayed its welcome.
Hello Ben, I’m defiantly in the minority on this one but I’ve always liked “selective color” on a black and white image. Yes I know it’s something thats had it’s fifteen minutes of fame (kind of like vinyl tops on cars) but with the right image it can be very interesting… Unfortunately I can’t leave any links to images I’ve done and I no longer have any presence on Facebook, Instagram or others as I’ve longe since tired of all the drama inherent. Suffice to say I’ve done my fair share of selective color B&W images over the years. Hugh
Hi Ben not sure why I missed this when it was uploaded 🤔 probably YT algorithms again. It was interesting to hear the different comments. I've just been notified of your latest video so I assume I've missed the boat regarding Trends. I'll comment anyway 😊 I don't really follow trends I much prefer to do my own thing and just enjoy my photography. I do like to try new stuff like ICM etc. and have had some great results (but I can tell you most camera club judges don't like ICM) I did get lured into shooting HDR images using Photomatix and when I look back at the images I produced 🤮 Way overprocessed and over saturated. I do however bracket some landscape images and merge to HDR in LR but only when there is a large dynamic range I need to capture. LR also does a very good job and you generally can't tell. It looks like I saw with my own eyes. I'd better watch your latest video next 😊
Sorry Paul, I’ve missed this comment, not sure why. Thanks for your feedback mate. Yeah I agree that LR certainly makes HDR much more natural. It’s always funny looking back on what we thought was cool at the time. ICM is something I’ve never tried, I guess that just a personal think, but it feels like it goes against everything we do… maybe I’ll have to do it some time. 🤷♂️ thanks again mate, all the best.
@@BenMcDonaldPhotography that's spooky I'm just watching your latest video when you were out on your bike. I'll leave a separate comment on that video to help the algorithm ☺ I do enjoy ICM but it's not easy to get results. I've seen plenty of poor ICM images on the Facebook group. Honestly it looks like they've just knocked their tripod 🤣
Brill mate, I did come across quite harsh there but it sounded good. I loved and still do, colour select, I've seen like most trends, this done very poorly, but when done well, it can make an image stand out. I'm not taking about the ones that use to be in IKEA though of the yellow cab or the red London bus, more subtle ones work for me.
Great as always Ben, do RUclipsrs make the best Photographers, well, yes and no. I’ve seen some astonishing photos on here but their videos suck but also vice versa, sometimes I can’t understand what they’re doing, it’s like they take no notice of their own advice with great videos, great tips and advice but their photos just don’t work. Saying that I know of a couple of photographers say their own work suffers as a consequence of concentrating on making the video, to the point where they now have basically cut down to posting their videos only monthly or even less. I’ve got my own channel but know that for mine it really doesn’t matter either way, I’m useless at videos and my photography isn’t the best, I only post for fun though.
I do consume a lot of youtube photography. However, making youtube videos of my own photography is not something i'd ever consider. First, because I consider videography to be a completely different discipline to stills, not transferable and secondly because landscape photography, especially, I consider to be a mindful experience, something that takes me away from the nonsense of everyday life, the idea of videoing those moments for social media, is to me an anathema. In fact I would go as far as to say that I think the worst thing to happen to cameras in the last few years was the inclusion of video! Video brought compromise and over complication to cameras....and if you watch those youtubers they all have a 'stills' camera AND a 'video' camera, even though invariably both do both.....why? If I ever do use video its because I deliberately set out to take video and not stills....so why does anybody need a camera that does both with its inevitable compromises and preponderance of complication? I enjoy many photography youtubers, inspirational, good or bad, but I truly don't understand why they would want to ruin a good photography outing with video!
I suppose that one person's trend might be the technique of another, but the stand-out horrible cliche for me is the overuse of long exposure on moving water. Streams, cascades, waterfalls, waves, you name it, don't look like that. I'm OK with occasional use for some imagined arty effect, but on every shot? Water does not look like milk. I suspect most people looking at a photo know what water looks like and don't need the addition of a gimmick. You don't see RUclips landscape photographers using long exposures to show the trees moving in their compositions, rather they bitch about the windy conditions.
@@BenMcDonaldPhotography I thought of another while having breakfast: ICM. Intentional Camera Movement. I've seen a couple of RUclipsrs mention it. If you've seen one of these, you've seen enough for a lifetime.
Some of the "big shots" at the beginning of their YT carrier were really good but when reach a certain number of subscribers they just do the same things again and again to please the same crowd. They do a "master class" video, do this way, not the other way, 7 best tips, get my presets, get my books and calendars and so on, plus they force themselves out to make some videos or some so-so images because of the sponsors' demand. The only way to be a good (better) photographer is to learn the basics, go out and make thousands of mistakes, learn from them, improve (upgrade) your vision and be yourself and never ever follow another one's instructions on how to do photography, otherwise, you will be the same or very similar. David Bailey" If you made 6 significant images in your whole life, you are a very lucky guy", and he was really a very (big shot). David Yarrow, 3 or max 4 good pictures a year that I like to take. Ansel Adams, "10 good pictures a year is a good crop". How many "amazing" images do these YT "big shots" take a year? Hundreds?
Well said 👍
Thank you so much.
Great video Ben, some good points there. For the next video, I've always loved long exposure photography and although I'm limited with shooting on the iPhone, I love seeing pictures when done well and I think that's the key, like all photography, when done well, all the trends have there place! Keep up the great work and I hope you do this sort of thing again after the final one, they have been very enjoyable.
Thank you so much, I’ll cardinals raise your points on the next video.
Wow Ben, really cutting to the quick there with your comments on the quality of the video work. I think that just like photography, video is definitely a journey of improvement.
Let's see, trends...
Once upon a time I was caught up in the crunchy HDR trend. Now, as with most of the photographic community, I will still use HDR as a technique, but keep it toned down to a more natural looking image. Of course, with a lot of the newer cameras having greater dynamic range, there isn't nearly as much need for it either. I've found times that I'll shoot brackets to merge together, and then use just one of the images because it has all the information that I need.
You mentioned long exposure, which I don't necessarily see as a trend, but a technique. There are some photographers that do mostly LE photography, and they do it well. I would love to do more myself, but rarely have the appropriate subject for it. I think that it's definitely something that will stick around.
ICM, have to mention that. I've seen some ICM images that just look very painterly, but the majority just look like the person needed a tripod. I really haven't experimented much with it myself, but that's likely because I've always been of the mind to get in focus images with minimal to no camera shake. ICM is really just the progression from the old zoom blue effect. We don't see that much anymore, but it was a big thing several years ago.
Okay, I'll stop there. I've really enjoyed these talks of yours. Thanks for including me in them.
Thanks Craig, some great points, I'll certainly raise them in the next video. all the best.
@@BenMcDonaldPhotography oh, thought of another. That trend of shooting through a glass ball. I can't count how many photos I saw of hands holding a glass ball with an upside down scene. It was cool for about 5 minutes, but overstayed its welcome.
Great Video Ben! some great points, thanks for sharing
Hello Ben,
I’m defiantly in the minority on this one but I’ve always liked “selective color” on a black and white image. Yes I know it’s something thats had it’s fifteen minutes of fame (kind of like vinyl tops on cars) but with the right image it can be very interesting…
Unfortunately I can’t leave any links to images I’ve done and I no longer have any presence on Facebook, Instagram or others as I’ve longe since tired of all the drama inherent. Suffice to say I’ve done my fair share of selective color B&W images over the years.
Hugh
Thank yo so much Hugh, some great points raised there, I'll certainly raise them in the next video.
Hi Ben not sure why I missed this when it was uploaded 🤔 probably YT algorithms again. It was interesting to hear the different comments. I've just been notified of your latest video so I assume I've missed the boat regarding Trends. I'll comment anyway 😊 I don't really follow trends I much prefer to do my own thing and just enjoy my photography. I do like to try new stuff like ICM etc. and have had some great results (but I can tell you most camera club judges don't like ICM) I did get lured into shooting HDR images using Photomatix and when I look back at the images I produced 🤮 Way overprocessed and over saturated. I do however bracket some landscape images and merge to HDR in LR but only when there is a large dynamic range I need to capture. LR also does a very good job and you generally can't tell. It looks like I saw with my own eyes. I'd better watch your latest video next 😊
Sorry Paul, I’ve missed this comment, not sure why. Thanks for your feedback mate. Yeah I agree that LR certainly makes HDR much more natural. It’s always funny looking back on what we thought was cool at the time.
ICM is something I’ve never tried, I guess that just a personal think, but it feels like it goes against everything we do… maybe I’ll have to do it some time. 🤷♂️ thanks again mate, all the best.
@@BenMcDonaldPhotography that's spooky I'm just watching your latest video when you were out on your bike. I'll leave a separate comment on that video to help the algorithm ☺ I do enjoy ICM but it's not easy to get results. I've seen plenty of poor ICM images on the Facebook group. Honestly it looks like they've just knocked their tripod 🤣
Brill mate, I did come across quite harsh there but it sounded good. I loved and still do, colour select, I've seen like most trends, this done very poorly, but when done well, it can make an image stand out. I'm not taking about the ones that use to be in IKEA though of the yellow cab or the red London bus, more subtle ones work for me.
Thanks Adam, really appreciated. I’ll certainly raise your points on the next video.
Great as always Ben, do RUclipsrs make the best Photographers, well, yes and no. I’ve seen some astonishing photos on here but their videos suck but also vice versa, sometimes I can’t understand what they’re doing, it’s like they take no notice of their own advice with great videos, great tips and advice but their photos just don’t work. Saying that I know of a couple of photographers say their own work suffers as a consequence of concentrating on making the video, to the point where they now have basically cut down to posting their videos only monthly or even less.
I’ve got my own channel but know that for mine it really doesn’t matter either way, I’m useless at videos and my photography isn’t the best, I only post for fun though.
I do consume a lot of youtube photography. However, making youtube videos of my own photography is not something i'd ever consider. First, because I consider videography to be a completely different discipline to stills, not transferable and secondly because landscape photography, especially, I consider to be a mindful experience, something that takes me away from the nonsense of everyday life, the idea of videoing those moments for social media, is to me an anathema. In fact I would go as far as to say that I think the worst thing to happen to cameras in the last few years was the inclusion of video! Video brought compromise and over complication to cameras....and if you watch those youtubers they all have a 'stills' camera AND a 'video' camera, even though invariably both do both.....why? If I ever do use video its because I deliberately set out to take video and not stills....so why does anybody need a camera that does both with its inevitable compromises and preponderance of complication? I enjoy many photography youtubers, inspirational, good or bad, but I truly don't understand why they would want to ruin a good photography outing with video!
Thank you, it's a shame I can't add this into the video now, you make some great points, but thank you for your comment.
I suppose that one person's trend might be the technique of another, but the stand-out horrible cliche for me is the overuse of long exposure on moving water. Streams, cascades, waterfalls, waves, you name it, don't look like that. I'm OK with occasional use for some imagined arty effect, but on every shot? Water does not look like milk. I suspect most people looking at a photo know what water looks like and don't need the addition of a gimmick. You don't see RUclips landscape photographers using long exposures to show the trees moving in their compositions, rather they bitch about the windy conditions.
Thanks Bill I'll certainly highlight this in the next video.
@@BenMcDonaldPhotography I thought of another while having breakfast: ICM. Intentional Camera Movement. I've seen a couple of RUclipsrs mention it. If you've seen one of these, you've seen enough for a lifetime.
Some of the "big shots" at the beginning of their YT carrier were really good but when reach a certain number of subscribers they just do the same things again and again to please the same crowd. They do a "master class" video, do this way, not the other way, 7 best tips, get my presets, get my books and calendars and so on, plus they force themselves out to make some videos or some so-so images because of the sponsors' demand. The only way to be a good (better) photographer is to learn the basics, go out and make thousands of mistakes, learn from them, improve (upgrade) your vision and be yourself and never ever follow another one's instructions on how to do photography, otherwise, you will be the same or very similar. David Bailey" If you made 6 significant images in your whole life, you are a very lucky guy", and he was really a very (big shot). David Yarrow, 3 or max 4 good pictures a year that I like to take. Ansel Adams, "10 good pictures a year is a good crop". How many "amazing" images do these YT "big shots" take a year? Hundreds?