I really enjoyed this discussion! I'm not a Patek nor Calatrava nerd, but to listen to the depth of discussion and varied thoughts is definitely enriching! Thanks for putting on this nerdier show!
That episode was insane! The Calatrava itself is such an enigma for Patek. To be such an icon yet so varied in definition and style is hard to accomplish. Thanks for the robust discussion. Nerding out like this doesn’t happen often in the watch content world. Not many creators have the depth of knowledge to pull it off. This is what makes Hodinkee special. Keep up the good work guys!!
0:43 In my personal view, a Calatrava is a watch that looks like the original reference 96 from 1932. Everything else is a Patek Philippe dress watch. In the current collection, the 5396 and the 6119 are Calatrava by that definition. The 6119 would be even nicer without the hobnail bezel. My favourite one is the reference 5926R which was discontinued in 2019.
For people like me who don’t want to or can’t spend Calatrava money: have s look at JLC master control date (exists in 39 and 40mm), and master control super thin (37mm).
The 5000 was designed for Ferrari but Ferrari representatives wanted branding on the front and the back. Philippe Stern said it would be one or the other. They refused. The deal fell through, Stern knowing he had a great design on hand anyway. Ferrari later came back and agreed but he said that’s not how he does business and it became a line of watches without any external branding. The 6006 is the modern one to get. The 6007 is a central rotor bastardised heresy.
Love watching on RUclips so I can see the references. Really appreciate you flashing up the pictures
I really enjoyed this discussion! I'm not a Patek nor Calatrava nerd, but to listen to the depth of discussion and varied thoughts is definitely enriching! Thanks for putting on this nerdier show!
That episode was insane! The Calatrava itself is such an enigma for Patek. To be such an icon yet so varied in definition and style is hard to accomplish. Thanks for the robust discussion. Nerding out like this doesn’t happen often in the watch content world. Not many creators have the depth of knowledge to pull it off. This is what makes Hodinkee special. Keep up the good work guys!!
Excellent episode 👏🏼
JMB
They could have covered the 5196 too, especially the 5196p which is my all time favourite!🎉 nice video tho
I never knew there were so many references from Daniel Wellington.
Super enjoyable !
Great episode.
0:43 In my personal view, a Calatrava is a watch that looks like the original reference 96 from 1932. Everything else is a Patek Philippe dress watch. In the current collection, the 5396 and the 6119 are Calatrava by that definition. The 6119 would be even nicer without the hobnail bezel. My favourite one is the reference 5926R which was discontinued in 2019.
5296R do you mean? That is a stunner
Please 🙏 give Ben a proper mic. So hard to listen to on the podcast.
5026G, breguet hands, applied breguet numerals, micro rotor
For people like me who don’t want to or can’t spend Calatrava money: have s look at JLC master control date (exists in 39 and 40mm), and master control super thin (37mm).
Its pretty insane the modern Calatrava has the same water resistance as the Nautilus
30m for a nautilus, what a waste of money
The 5000 was designed for Ferrari but Ferrari representatives wanted branding on the front and the back. Philippe Stern said it would be one or the other. They refused. The deal fell through, Stern knowing he had a great design on hand anyway. Ferrari later came back and agreed but he said that’s not how he does business and it became a line of watches without any external branding. The 6006 is the modern one to get. The 6007 is a central rotor bastardised heresy.
Buy a vacheron or a jaeger le coultre,,then you wouldn't get hung up on your round simple watch..
You guys have nothing to say,,and your saying it too loud,,
Early