Are You Listening? Ep. 4 | Limiting in Mastering (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- What is a limiter, and where does the limiter sit in your mastering chain? How much level should you push into the limiter when you master? Follow along as professional mastering engineer and iZotope direction of education Jonathan Wyner demonstrates different modes of limiting, why level matching is important and how to do it, how limiters affect sound quality, level considerations for streaming platforms, the importance of IRC (instant release control) limiting modes in Ozone’s Maximizer, and more.
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0:32 A limiter is basically a compressor with a super high ratio
0:47 In analog world, limiter not 100% brick wall
1:20 Limiter allows us to specify final target level
1:50 Can be useful to play with limiter at the start of mastering session to get track to target loudness
2:42 Limiter is ALWAYS last in chain
2:50 Can also think of limiter as a safety
3:02 Drop threshold of limiter, will increase output by same amount (i.e. -5db on limiter = +5b on output)
4:02 Try to listen to level matched when bypassing limiter to hear true A/B difference
6:04 In terms of LUFS, Short Term is probably what we are most interested in while mastering. Integrated LUFS is what streaming services use to determine how much of a “penalty” to give your track.
Target LUFS
Apple: -16LUFS
RUclips: -13LUFS
Spotify: -14LUFS
Tidal: -14LUFS
8:00 If you know you want to end up at -14LUFS Integrated and you know the beginning of the track is lower, then the louder portion will be louder than -14LUFS (maybe around 3-4db difference)
9:20 Limiters will impact the bass the most as bass has the strongest amount of amplitude signal
10:48 Limiters have a fast release, this invariably can cause distortion. Keep this in mind, and listen out for it in sibilant areas.
11:39 Having a side chain input in the compressor can ensure your stereo field doesn’t steer around
12:02 De-coupling in a limiter can help you have control over the stereo width
12:35 Difference in IRC modes in Ozone
IRC 1: Analog limiter, very little look ahead.
IRC 2: More of a look ahead* digital limiter
IRC 3: A sophisticated limiter, there is a look up table to choose a profile, this mode has the least distortion associated with it
IRC 4: Spectral Shaper/Dynamic EQ, that pulls back peaks in the spectrum to allow the limiter to work less before limiting is applied
*Look ahead means the limiter uses buffer memory to look ahead at the frequency coming in. This allows it to process it more clean
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Thank you for this concise recap
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What i lke the most about this lessons, is that Jonathan is teaching what he knows and not just trying to sell the Ozone products. Thumbs up and many many thanks for this kind of educational videos !
Thats because everyone knows that ozone products are a must-have :D
I’ve never seen a combination of presentation skills and visual production values on RUclips that comes anywhere near this series.
I bought RX7’s promotional package of de-noise, de-click, etc. on sale to help with a horrendous ambient noise problem interfering with voiceover recording. It’s a near miracle. Still, with no background in music production I just can’t stop watching this video series. This is the gold standard for clarity in information delivery.
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RX is a great product series and I have started to use it in place of Waves X-Click for some time now. Izotope's detection resolution is very impressive!
I've been an engineer all my life and I'm still learning a huge amount from these videos. I could listen to Jonathan all day.
I've been in the audio game for 15 years and I'm still learning new things. If someone assumes that they know it all then they'll never progress. Staying hungry and open to new things is the key.
@@Syklonus these are not new concepts though ... are you sure you guys are engineers?
This man and this series are a gift to artists and audio engineers everywhere. Thank you so much.
6:25 short term LUFS
6:55 streaming service use intergrated LUFS
8:20 loudest section 3-4 dB higher than the average
9:20 limiters lose low frequencies and gain high frequency distortion
10:45 limiters have fast release times
12:45 irc 1 like analogue limiter, little look ahead (more transient reduction, warmer and punchier ) (punch through the middle for rock/punk).
13:20 irc2 like look ahead Digital limiter (smoother and allows LF warmth to come through).
13:55 irc3 has look up table and chooses the algorithm that will produce the lowest distortion (cleaner, brighter, least amount of colour)
14:30 irc4 spectral shaper
14:45 long release = smoother and defeat excitement
I've watched some of these tutorials multiple times. each time i retain a new idea than my previous watch. Thank you for putting this content out there. I've really been enjoying and learning from your experience and teaching. Sending your tons of gratitude and positive energy. I really appreciate this series are you listening.
This is by far the best series of videos on dynamics I have ever seen.
I'm surely not the only one feverishly taking notes.
I can't stress enough how amazing of an educator you are. Thanks so much for putting this information out there for free!!!
Such a great series. Every video in this series is immediately applicable and explains so much things I couldn't quite get my head around. Succinct and invaluable. Thank you Jonathan and iZotope!
I truly appreciate you sharing your professional advice, tips and tricks of the trade. This knowledge can definitely help everyone regardless of the level of skill. This gives me the confidence and knowledge to help me master my own tracks without "overdoing it". Thank you very much
Great tutorials; you've removed years of googling and broken keyboards. Playback level on a/b is a big value point! Thanks for sharing your professional wisdom.
I don't think I've found any other Tutorial videos that are as informative and educative as this series.... I have become an avid fan...subbed, belled and all the rest.... As far I'm concerned they can't be published quick enough.... Excellent Video's Top quality instruction and absolutely the best info on the net regards mastering and mixing, Thank you for sharing your expertise.
I don't know what it is, but even after buying and viewing TONS of tutorials of various qualities, THIS is the guy I trust %100. Fantastic relay of knowledge in such a beautiful and pleasant way. I love it.
This is a great series and Jonathan is an outstanding teacher. IZotope just gets things right without muss and fuss.
I like this series, it's informative but also a chill to watch. Thanks iZotope!
The most instructive videos I ever seen about this topics.
I'm glued to this series now
Thanks so much iZotope & Jonathan Wyner for everything! I am definitely Listening to every episode #grateful
Thank you so very much for uploading! I needed a good refresher to help me get back into the swing of things since it's been a while since I went to school. These videos have been very helpful with that!
Ha...nice job. Well planned and presented. Lighting was above par, diction clarity and depth of your voice spot on, Camera shots and the Pull to Focus at the perfect time and NOT over-done made it easy to absorb the excellent information provided. I figured if you put that much time in to it you deserved a solid complement.
Though some of this information is already going over my head, I appreciate that this is free SOOOOOO much. Thank you guys
Ive been using ozone since ozone 4! I love it. Its great to learn from the proverbial horses mouth. Thanks for the videos!
These videos are so well done and have such a great wealth of information. Thank you Jonathan! :)
these videos are simply amazing! thank you so much!
Very helpful (again). Thanks for putting this series together!
Stunning tutorials, thank you, so clear and concise! 5⭐️
Wonderful wonderful tutorials, very valuable. And free for us to learn! Amazing. Thanks for making and sharing these valuable lessons!
These videos are great! Thanks Izotope and thanks Jonathan for the great quality of these lessons!
Love these videos! Thanks so much for putting this out
I like his explanation about the release time !
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Great Brake down and excellent content. Thank you for such a detailed and clear points of view for the up and coming music technician. OZ8 user👍🏻
Wow this guy explains this so well!
Thank you Jonathan , another stella presentation.
Another brilliant video. Thank you
Pure gold!
Excellent explanation...thanks
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Really enjoying this series🧩
Many thanks
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Fascinating, sir
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Thanks! I always wondered about the 3 modes in IRC IV, now I know!
I'm for sure going to buy the Ozone Mastering suite later this year. Seems like a fun set of tools.
Excellent video!
great topic of level matching.
Great video! Appreciate you putting these out!
man this was amazing 🙌 such a good explanation on limiters
Thanks!
Thank you.
Awesome video and videos. I’m 16 and started producing music. Appreciate the videos!
This is gold information. And I would like to listen to the big speakers that are in the background.
These are very valuable info! Thank you very much!
I didn't realize my knowledge was so....limited! ;-) This is great! again!!
I get it :)
This is so good. Thanks iZotope.
So well explained - thanks! Cool studio, BTW.
Thank you...there are no such a valuable content for free out there... triple A. Does Jonathan still make seminars...?
thank you very much for these! please go in more depth if you want to, I'd love to hear more specifics about LUFS etc!
what a great video!
What a way to sell your products! iZotope, we love you!
Kudos to Jonathan Wyner and iZotope for the videos!
This is an excellent series, very well explained and informative. The limiter can be a dangerous tool, IMO and mostly isn't ever needed. If the engineer has done a good job with dynamic range compression to make the signal louder, limiting isn't needed at all. Be careful as the limiter destroys every part of the signal limited, or clipped. So, it's not only the bass that gets limited first, we have higher frequency signal modulated on the peaks of the bass signal, so all of the higher frequency signal gets wiped out (flat-lined) for a given number of milliseconds.
I love Izotope and would be lost without Ozone.
Damn the panned toms fill compression example, I completely overlooked!
Izotope, well done again!
Thank you so much
The limiter he's talking about is Ozone's 'maximiser' - fairly easy. But the limiter in Dynamics with its attack/release, knee... etc., is a little more complicated.
Awesome and we'll explained tutorials. Thanks
Every day certainly is a new learning curve.. Izotope is amazing.
10:59 - yes!
I love you so much , really really love you
Ngl I'ma have to watch this 20 times
My guy 🙏🏽
The insidious limiter effect was really an eye opener. I found myself getting horrendous sibilance when misusing a limiter and wondered where the hell it came from
Been mixing 9 years. I would like to think im at a professional level as I've put in hours apon hours of perfecting my mixing skills as well as training me ears.. That being said, the more i study Mastering the more i realise how different of an art it is and how i have SOO much to learn to be a better master engineer. Weird how i can easily hear different frequencies or needs of compression a MIX would need.. But my ear is far from trained well to hear what a track needs in the Master phase. There is too many Mastering tutorials that throw on only an eq and a limiter on defult settings cruching 8 db of gain and callimg it a day. Much respect to this teacher for teachimg the art of the different shapes you can achieve in the sound by playing with so many different variables.
Thank you, ;-)
Highly INSIGHTful
mastering master
Thank you! I’m interested in the controller you use (left of computer keyboard)
This could do good on Netflix.
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This guys is cool i wanna be like him
hey ! pls make video about how to get proper stereo imaging in a whole stereo field and what are advance tips to mix a whole song and placing its element in stereo field
Thanks 💚🙏
We just released a video explaining exactly this! Hit up our channel to watch :)
So is he saying that you should trigger your mixbus compresser with a mono sum of your stereo mix in the sidechain, to avoid the stereo balance to go off (when referencing the tom fill going across the sound field) at 11.46
What to look for when using the limiter 10:59
Hi! Thanks again for another informative vid. One question. I am using Ozone 7 and the release controls etc you are using for limiting appear to be only available in the Maximiser? Am i missing something/
Cheers
Alex
Thank you very much. (Or as we say "Thank you Vary Mu")
You bet your ass I'm listening. That's why I, after about 6 years of searching, I still haven't found a limiter that does what it should. And completely transparently.
How can this tutorial be free? I hate long tutorials but those episodes flow like water.
No teachers' finer.., than Jonathan Wyner- ;*)
Hey Jonathan. Do you know what the lufs range is for the streaming services like soundcloud and spotify? Amazon music? I try to kep it at -12 but i wanna knownif i can push it or not
when I use the automatic mastering of ozone 10, which masters at 11 lufs and I change it to 14 lufs, setting for spotify, with "learn theshoud", there is distortion. It's piano, violin and voice. How to solve it?
What's the name of the controller he's using at 3:57 ?
Software limiters just aren’t transparent or even musical sounding. They are affordable compared to hardware but not comparable. The Pendulum Audio PL2 is an incredible hardware Limiter that is also musical and transparent.