Rough Visit To A Mine Not Even Supposed To Exist - Part 2 of 2
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- Опубликовано: 9 дек 2023
- This visit was a lot easier than the first one since we were prepared this time. However, for the sake of continuity, I had to keep the same title... Ha, you’d be surprised how much of a difference it makes to have waders. Lights are an obvious necessity in underground abandoned mines (as are the ropes on the vertical work). However, I think the waders represent the biggest (exponential, really) increase in comfort of all of the mine exploring gear. As I have demonstrated a few times, it is possible to go into flooded or muddy mines without them, but it is really not pleasant to do so.
I’d say that the adit I showed in the first video is obviously the oldest at this mine. So, the miners must have liked the gold that they were pulling out of there. There wasn’t enough left of the second adit to date it, but the third adit was consistent with what we’ve seen from mines in the area that were last worked in the 1930s. The clues from that third one are the timber sets and the condition of the timbers, the rail, the ore car, the shape and size of the adit itself and, lastly, the infrastructure left outside. To be clear, I am suggesting that it was LAST worked in the 1930s, but that is not necessarily when it was first worked, as its origins may date back to the 1800s as well (as the adit in the first video certainly does).
It is impossible to tell from the video, but the second adit was running roughly in line with the first adit (but with that small meadow and hill separating them). The third adit punched sideways into the vein that the first two adits seemed to be working on.
I used to break up longer videos into multiple parts that I would try to keep under half an hour as I figured that people would not want to sit through long videos. However, I found that the first video in a series would get a good number of views, but views on the subsequent videos in a series would fall off a cliff. So, I started posting longer videos. I still do some videos in parts if they would just be too long otherwise. This video is kind of on the line as to whether it could be one video or broken into two parts. So, I’ll be curious if it still holds true that views for subsequent videos in a series collapse. That is particularly the case here as the second video is of a higher quality.
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Growing up in California’s “Gold Rush Country” made it easy to take all of the history around us for granted. However, abandoned mine sites have a lot working against them - nature, vandals, scrappers and various government agencies… The old prospectors and miners that used to roam our lonely mountains and toil away deep underground are disappearing quickly as well.
These losses finally caught our attention and we felt compelled to make an effort to document as many of the ghost towns and abandoned mines that we could before that colorful niche of our history is gone forever.
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I have never been in a mine in the Sierra Nevada Range of California.
Much less a water flooded one.
You guys are much more adventurous than me.
Thanks for taking me along!
I explored many Southern California and Nevada mines from the 1960s through the 1990s. I liked the dry desert mines.
The Mary Mine near Silver Peak, Nevada was my favorite. Until they open pitted it.
It had over 50 miles of workings with several cabins with wood burning stoves on Mineral Ridge Esmeralda County.
That was a great place to spend weeks of adventure.
Keep on exploring TVR!!!
This mine, likely, has remaining values, particularly concentrated at the contact zone, between the quartz vein and the altered country rock. Also the contact zone between the ancient gravels and country rock. This would be a very difficult project, due to the highly mineralized, blocky nature of the serpentine, combined with the water intrusion. Highly unstable back, and ribs. DANGER! The chemical soup that you were walking thru was likely minerals dissolved in water. I expect a lots of iron, decaying sulfides, asbestos and other metallic compounds. Fairly toxic. Great video. Thank you for the experience.
great video. thanks for the sunday video
The colors in that 3rd adit...I was amazed by the shading and the whole deal. The quartz, the iron, the fault face...all clues you have shared before that make a guy wonder what they left in there. Regarding the longer videos, I enjoy them..and if I need to break away for some issue around here I come back...I am sure most of your viewers do the same.
Thank you!
It’s nice to see some form of scale in your videos with having a person in front of you. Sometimes these mines feel very tiny, and then you say exactly how wide or tall the passage is and it doesn’t feel parallel with what we’re seeing due to the field of view of the camera.
What a treat video on Sunday
Amen
Hello Justin. Thanks once again. Whether it's a 10 minute video, a 30 minute video, or a 3 hour video if it was put out by you I'd watch them all. The content, the commentary, the pace and the quality are what keep me coming back.
Thank you for the supportive comments and positivity!
Love the history from the gold rush days.
Those oak trees are amazing. When I was about 9/10 we moved to Northern California. Someone on the property we bought had taken a 2x4 and nailed it at the v of the tree. Fast forward year later when we owned the property the tree had grown around the 2x4 and in fact the board was just coming out of the middle of the trunk of the tree. It was amazing how it just grew around the 2x4 and kept growing. So yes I can imagine the tree just grew around that pick.
I thought for sure you were coming out with the Lost Ark!
I think longer videos are better. You see so much that other can't. So instead of making two small ones make two BIG ones! Great job, I loved the video.
That pick in the tree is realy cool !
That pick probably marks where the treasure is buried.
Maybe Excalibur
Thanks for the Sunday afternoon upload. Merry Christmas!
Absolutely right !
Iowa west trees we used to have timber Was in patches .
There was a lot of ranch land with very few trees like paradise there wasn’t enough trees to build a cabin .
They’ve tried to blame the minors for cutting all the force down all the old growth timber during the gold rush it’s a crock of shit.
It took 45 man a week to cut 5000 board feet that’s if they had a set up at the sawmill I’ll that’s rough cut lumber and not shipped.
Sierra pacific in Quincy one sawmill if they’re cutting Doug for they can do a million board feet in a Day that’s plane trimmed dried and shipped.
I was at Sierra city last year at the museum lotta cool mining stuff but the guy that runs the place was trying to say the minors cut down all The timber he was showing the big picture on the wall how there were no trees well if you read the history books there was no trees they’re just like a Johnsville.
Big big picture on the wall my question to him was those minors must’ve been awful tough because not only did they cut the trees down they dug all the stumps up where is the stumps ,
Miners did an incredible amount of work for 300,000 people there was a lot to deal with I didn’t have time to cut down the whole forest by hand and dig the stumps out to by hand .
Every time I get a chance to look at a old picture of somewhere I know I always look at the timber it wasn’t there!
Well that’s with the environmentalist want it they wanted to go back to be natural fire is natural specially when you have let it burn for a while.
Of course I have lost everything in the campfire in the bear fire in the Craig fire three years in a row!
Couple houses dogs horses all my Equipment except for a couple of people pieces people safe during a fire fight fire with shop oh my mining equipment and mining artifacts basically a museum but better in one of the first cabins it was built in Plumas County the lady was born in it lived in it her whole entire life Rich bar but the artifex for $275,000 just for the mining Artifacts.
I invited you over it was the last big fire we had it cook it at all equipment and everything there were Civil War saddles in guns and buckles and all that that the minors are traded to this lady she lease the property out so they keep mine boy did she have some treasures and she kept a record every day of everything for her whole entire life it was so cool.
The forest service burnt down over 95% of the Mine sites mill cabins even completely bulldozed them we concentrated on it made it a mission we would hike in miles to burn down cabins the minors the people around the area used to do the upkeep and not let hippies move into them like that’s what you’re trying to say they did not want a piece moving out it was incredible a lot of them still had to mine carts and the stuff from the stamp meals and everything the forest service destroyed most of it A lot of local men we get together when they were doing this and go out and get mine carts and whatever other artifacts They could rescue I think they had like 23 complete mine carts and then a whole bunch of parts and then a whole bunch other stuff and they had it stored on private property it was a mine that was Pat.
The forest service went in there when there was nobody around and gathered up all that stuff even the stuff that belong to this guy he’s my equipment and they took it to the scrap yard and said it belong to the forest service even though my dad and a bunch other guys had worked with the forest service so they could save the stuff do you know how it goes different ones have different opinions specially the environmentalist.
Probably why I get so upset when you blame it on looters or bad people your mike been some of that but mostly it’s our government and if anybody saved any artifact it would be a blessing most of the time that stuff would get donated to the museum anyways oh no that’s a whole Nother topic . There was most beautiful mining museum you’ve ever seen at Jonesville that was all donated stuff from the public actually it was on loan the public did all the work the museum and they turn the museum into a campground office and through and lost all the mining artifacts that didn’t even belong to them that’s our government from Families that it put the stuff on loan with their grandparents for 49ers had stuff from the different mines pictures gold just all kinds of stuff mineing records all gone.
Believe it or not it just happened again once it’s donated to the public well actually was donated to the local The lady that donated place was one of the first ranches in the whole area just beautiful stuff I’ve been around it our whole lives it was for us locals well once it becomes public and people from the city know what they’re doing but they formed a committee for that museum none of them knew the lady we all knew her for years and years they took it over nothing we can do we’ve been working on it we have equipment putting in new sewer systems fixing the Hot Springs with all swim there or home lives been around there we knew her a bunch of mine carts were people donate or we’re going to set up a Stampmill their whole bunch of stuff not without their approval we all left took the stuff we brought with us left the ground in the hot range dug up everything tore apart because we’re not supposed to Cut A blade of grass without their permission and they were serious it came there with a list of stuff they wanted I don’t know there’s probably 10 contractors i’ll donating everything and who knows how many people and they literally had to. Six of these people from the city I don’t know anything and they walk just around and told us exactly what they want us to do and nothing more what is the most stupidest thing fixing the parking lot now I’m fixing the bathrooms actually fixing the bathrooms that were outside separately .
But is funny as hell Tony he looked at them people I told him I don’t think his mom folk hillbillies whatever you call us are smart enough to figure this out I think you got a hire somebody to do it.
Think I’ll pack up I’m pretty much everybody else is on the same page I am only take what we brought Man there’s 100 people working on that place and we all packed up her shit make up did you other dump trucks equipment everything mine carts looking Stampmill it been brought in there packed it up and left I don’t take a local went back in that place I don’t know it’s been over six years ago and still setting exactly like we left it which is a shame because we’re all friends with the lady that owned it and we’re all kids swim there all summer‘s place is called McClair‘s Hot Spring ranch from the 1840s by The town of Clio.
Highly suggest doing more videos where your following, lets the viewer see the true scale of everything as its all but impossible to tell without something for scale. Another great video!
pyroclastic placer?
beautiful mineralisation, thank you for taking us along!
The colors in those mines were really bright. The rock hound in me wanted some for my collection. This was a great explore Justin!
I watched part 1 and now part 2.
This must be a very old mine district.
It date from my point of view in the 1700 to 1800 ad .
Still worked in modern times again.
Thank you for your work.
Glück Auf and best wishes.
Yours Frank Galetzka
Somewhere off in the distance mr. McBride was laughing when you said you had a pinhole in your waders.
I'm claustrophobic, so I admire you guys having the guts to go so deep into that mine. It'd be so interesting though to explore mines, especially when you know what all you're looking at in them.
Great video. The colors are awesome.
Im digging this mine and location and the longer format thanks much.
That ore cart looked to be riveted construction , definitely pre 20's. Well over a hundred year old workings, really cool find.
Best mine content on RUclips. Look so forward to your posts. Thank you
Well I’ll be a monkey 🙉 uncle , for years I’ve watched underground exploration of caves ad by golly I thought to myself I’ve never seen these chaps before so I thought I’d check the details of your channel out and jeepers creepers I was not subscribed I’d fallen asleep watching a previous podcast and was awoken by this delightful channel, I’m subbed with notifications on and seldom do I find a channel that keeps me interested for more than 40 Minutes, great film footage/action nice and smooth good talk through giving the viewer a good idea of the obstacles and dangers yous all face,bearing in mind I’ve not seen any of your films I’m certainly looking forward to watching more , good luck with your future projects.❤️💚🙏🏻🙏🏽🙏🏾🙏🏿🙏👍🙏🏻🇬🇧
Cool video. I don't like water in mines......
thanks for the update _ always grateful and happy to see your content :)
Hello from Australia opal miner here nice explore indeed.
Good afternoon from Southeast South Dakota
40 min video from TVR?
*clears schedule*
One of the best mine I have seen on uTube!
Those birthday balloons are attracted to mine entrances it seems... I found a purple one at a mine entrance in Hachita, NM!
Looks like the Foresthill area. Great video, thank you.
RESPECT ! How revolting wading through all that gunge - and not knowing if you were about to suddenly drop down a winze somewhere😮. And Im wondering if that water and gunge sometimes harbours (releases) dangerous gasses/air? 🚢🇬🇧🚂⛏
With that much iron rich quartz I wouldn't be surprised if the payout was actually still viable but perhaps there was another reason for the mine to close, such as onset of a war or regional disease.
Would be interesting to see those 3 addits roughly done up as a 3D map. Were they chasing the same vain from different starting points, or are there multiple layers of rich vain.
That mine was far from rubbish, so many cool things. Kudos for trailbreaking in that waist high mud.
Got a chuckle at the mylar baloon, come across several of those in the high country.
It is unbelievable how often we see them and in the most remote places...
Looks like you're heading INTO the mosquitoes! 😂
Very scary lookin'! Love longer videos, Thanks! ❤
Its so nice to see everything they left behind. Although who knows whats under the backfall and muck. But still its a rarity. Thanks for sharing another piece of this mine. With the ending im hoping that you have found yet another adit to explore.
They were walking through deep thick mud with a smile on their faces.
Sooo rad. Extra stoked on the bonus part 2 video.
Great tour!
This reminds me of the mine that had endless mud dams but by far my favorite.
Please start another channel planning and going to the mines and after.
Wow such a beautiful mine
Johnsville it’s a state park!
Almost 60 miles I’ve tunnels or added it to whatever you wanna call them all done and 1800s in hard rock .
You got to get into the shaft you got to go up to ski hill parking lot like you’re going up to Eureka Lake and you can go up to the top of the left part or when you first start going up on the dirt road past the ski hill parking lot you can hang a left towards the top of the hill act like you’re back packing .
You won’t be disappointed!
You can even walk around not like a tourist check the Stampmill out all the rest of the stuff of course the workings are way up on the hill from Stampmill easier to go by the ski hill and then turn on the dirt road to go up to Eureka lake.
Look at her topo map with LiDAR you’ll figure it out have fun... like a tourist you fit right in...
A very colorful and a bit muddy mine, i guess if that mud was outside you could call it quicksand, this was a surprising mine, i wonder how big it really was.
Greetings from the BIG SKY. When to going gets tough, the tough get going.
You ever happen upon some random gold in these mines? A errant nugget or quartz with a ribbon of gold? The quality of the light you have access to blows away what they were working with.
With all the delaminating from the back, my guess is they shot the adit in under the placer material and just missed it,, then the delaminating uncovered it. Just think, "missed it by that much"! With the pick marks looking like they are more recent, I wonder if picking at it caused some of the cave ins? Then I wonder if it caved while they were picking at it? Maybe they’re still there!😳 that pipe outside the mine looks like the top of the smokestack for a steam boiler.
You'd hope that the collapse wasn't triggered by some poor soul pushing the empty ore cart back in for another load ...
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
I always thought the mud was never that deep, Now I know👌👍
Kind of interesting they didn't stope out more of it. Seems like it was paying well enough.
Also interesting that the pick is stuck like that, which suggest they were in there when it happened (or someone other explorer did that). I often assume most of the collapses you find happened well after you were out of the mine.
That mud is ugly looking. I imagine your concerns, although not fully voiced.
Hi Justin, that was one cool mine, so much quartz and the ore cart was a nice surprise.
Thank you for sharing, much love. xx
thanks
That looks a lot like one that one of our motorcycle trails goes right by.
That looks like a lot easier to walk in rather than that old muck y'all were in a few minutes ago. Good luck fellas
Exciting visit. Curious what keeps you from trying to grab a bag of that fresh rich placer(besides fear of death). Looks like that one would be rich if someone decided to risk it and chip away. That mud is hideous though😂😂
Excellent job you guys. Enjoyed this series. First class again.👍
Yep all those narrow cut logs on the way in was us.
Another familiar looking stack of tools. Maybe stacked by the same miner?
I would fear falling thru a false floor...
guys research petrified giant trees, that are all over the US but you have to have eyes to see
I'm surprised that you fellows don't use walking sticks in case there is a vertical shaft under water.
One hand has a flashlight and one hand has a camera... Not enough hands for a walking stick (as nice as it would be to have).
I think i know what happened to the second mine where that ore cart is half pancaked. My guess is the miners were piling up the ore ready to be removed from the mine and once that pile was removed they would add more straprails to the next ore pile waiting to be removed and so on, but when that big collapse happened the miners just left it as it was too dangerous to keep going.
That looks like a pretty deep drop off. I could've sworn that I saw some little flakes of gold back there.
"Why is this more spacious?"
Because the back of the addit is a later working?
That last adit was a crazy slog! Thanks for sharing with us as always. Question: at around 17:12, right after you say "I hope that's not the end..." there's a strange sound and I can't identify it. Any idea what that might be?
ok Thank you @trinketsmusings I thought I was hearing things. Listened to it multiple times either an inhale from the camera man or a screech from a creature or bird or something. I have no idea although I too am curious.
Yea that slushy mud is nasty to get through, meanwhile, praying that you don’t fall down !
Part 3 was awesome...seems no one's been around that area in a very long time before yall huh?
Looks like that adit made a beeline for that Placer conglomerate. Looks very much like the Foresthill Divide (Hidden Treasure, Baltimore, etc).
A wader repair kit would stop the leaks. I always carried a couple of them when trout fishing in Michigan. They are small and light and fast.
Beautiful colors. Lots of yuck lol. Ore cart was very cool
That crust could also be their inside out house remnants is what it looks like. Lol😅
I wonder if the pick was hung up in the tree and it grew up?
30:37 We cut a white oak little bigger than that oak. It had 116 growth rings.
I would bet there's enough left in there to pay today. I don't know how hard to haul away.
Thanks for sharing. Always very interesting. I hope you carry H2S detectors.
Not sure if anyone caught the scream in the background, but listen when the video hits 17.00 or 17.15 min in you can clearly hear what sounds like a woman shrill... scream right after the words "I hope that's not the end is spoken" . This was even more clear than the video from the Russian mine. My husband and I both heard it and replayed the video twice to double check we weren't hearing things. It was very creepy
Hey, I know where this is. Didn’t know this mine was there though. Were aware of the mine up above it. We camp here in the clearing each year. They logged the area up above it recently.
I can't help thinking that the mushy crusty slurry you are wading through in some of thee mines is absolutely loaded with minerals. There must be tons of the stuff washed out of the roock and I feel certain its rich in something......what it is..... Is another question LOL 🤣 🦄
Thankyou for sharing
17:15 Bro what the fuck was that scream sound?
Ya I was wondering myself.
You stated this mine appears to be typical placer. What ore is being mined?
That looks like a pretty deep drop off.
Never seen a video that said posted and 52 seconds ago. Lol
Gold runs an Ironhorse of Quart's.
DANGEROUS PLACE THIS SCARY ASS MINE WATER DEEP WITH CRAP TO WALK ON AND DAMN UNSTABLE CEILINGS 😢
As Jeff Williams would say, Sample !
What did that smell like?? 🤔
What does the crusty water smell like? It can’t be pleasant
Actually, it doesn't really smell. I know it looks horrible, but when you're pushing through it, the water/mud doesn't smell any different than the already earthy smells underground.
Very interesting, i figured if it didnt stink it would be like you said earth/rusty metal smell! thanks guys and good to see ya as always! @@TVRExploring
I saw the walker mine video. The senator highway mine is not to far so wondering if you cover arizona
So....dare i ask...
Did you find any gold. Great video
Fabulous vision..hopefully" they " never find that mine ..
From Australia 🦘🦘🦘
must have been poor values if the quartz is still there, not stoped out as such.........
Yes, although poor values at the time do not necessarily mean poor values today. The miners in the past would typically just skim off the very richest ore and leave the rest. By the standards of today, a lot of these old mines would be considered to have high grade ore.
Have you ever found gold on youre expeditions?
The flooded mine where you were walking through the mud is full of beautiful gold ore,it has all the indicators ,you guys should show some prospects,take a few pans and see if you find gold while you explore...
I would want to carry a walking cane to see if there is a bottom before I made a step going forward! Yikes!
I've got a very important question. Why don't y'all do a little mining yourself while you're in there to make it worth your wild?
Starting off bent over doesn’t help
15:27, what are the carvings on that tree?
Man, I would love to hit that with a detector, have you thought about going back with one? Great adventure guys, thanks!
full of iron. You'd be quite busy.
Discriminate it.