The sad thing is when Maya said that Warren and Miller can enjoy the "Magic", it feels like she DOES WANT kids. She's just really terrified about what it would do to her career and also I think she's terrified of what kind of a parent should be. I watched this 5 times now. And I'm still crying when this scene come up. Because it is so true. It's a flawed system.
@@omarcogle1965 yeah, i guess so, but sorry: the system is shit, too. i mean, i am from germany, but in terms of having kids as a woman with a wife: this shit ain't helpin us out, only the dads with wives. That is not unfair, and it's not Maya's fault here, either
@@Caro-kv4gd It sucks, but with Maya, I also think she's afraid of being like her dad if she has a kid, and it took this long for her to realize that she was abused. That's why I was mentioning about the Therapy. There also have been woman firefighters who have kids and still can do the job.
As newly married myself, I actually think having this discussion is not the bad thing nor it means that they gonna break up. What wonderful about Carina is that she listens and open to discussion. She stated what she wants and want to understand her partner point of view.
One of the thing I love the most about them is that they talk to each other. They don't leave things unsaid, that's why I tend to not be worried for them. But still, Krista I'm watching you. You're walking on egg skins here (intended)
Absolutely. I like that discussions like this are mirrored more in real life, rather than TV fantasy. This discussion is very realistic, and important to have, and it's all part of growing and evolving as a couple. Maya's vulnerability is so real here - her fears of becoming like her father as well as the nervousness she has about how having kids will effect her career path. The latter just shows how broken the system is, that she has to worry that much about not being able to achieve her professional dreams if she wants to have a kid.
It´s true what you said. but it´s a little selfish the side of Maya because I think that all the time Carina is putting a side her desires and especially with this theme. Besides, Carina is always supporting and understanding Maya´s fears and so on. It´s not fair.
Yesss! I love how they communicate even when they argue. Having watched Maya from the beginning, this wouldn't have been possible then. S1 and S2 Maya would have run and avoided the issue altogether and even rage as an act of self-preservation. Her character has shown so much growth, especially when it comes to facing her personal struggles and I'm glad that Carina helped her through them.
The sexism rooted in the SFD is shown in this speech by Maya. If she decides to be a mother, she will lose her job. It's a terrible situation. I understand Maya and I don't judge her. The problem is this sexism that exists and the series is addressing it brilliantly.
This is plainly an internal struggle for Maya. She will not lose her job - she just can't go on emergency calls. That's a choice SHE makes, not the dept. No public emergency unit is going to permit a pregnant woman go on an emergency call. It's not fair to her, her baby, and believe it or not, the public, whom she is sworn to protect. Maya acts like Parental leave will mean she will never get promoted - hogwash! Every institution has challenges - Maya seems to be distracted or worried about something else.
@@scales57 i agree. I was confused why it would be unfair for female firefighters. The part about being put on a desk job is normal if someone is pregnant. That'll happen if they were in the police department or something. I think Maya is insecure of her potentially being a mom. Lane really put lasting mark on her. Regarding her career not progressing, the baby situation is just an excuse. For sure there are parent female firefighters out there who's careers have progressed.
This is definitely residual guilt from the way her dad raised. She still thinks that being #1 has to come at the cost of everything that makes you happy
What I am sure is, Carina is there to help Maya see through the shit her dad planted in her head and finally figured out happiness is the most important thing in life; and even being whatever she wants come with a cost, she can always choose as it is her decision to make.
@@Qbonbon yeah I think they will resolve this maybe in the next episode and Maya will change her mind because she realizes that not everything has to be about being at the top and it’s ok to take detours for your own happiness.
The emotional conversation between Carina and Maya about having children was beautifully captured in #Station19. The scene's poignant depth was heightened by the artful use of a mirror, adding a reflective layer to the characters' inner struggles. Kudos to the show for not just telling a story but crafting it visually. #Savestation19
Maya wanted everything in her way .. She need to change.. She hates Sullivan what he did but the truth , it's her fault got fired from Captain in her station. Sullivan wanted station 19 stay together and saved because his wife house of work . Nobody see that, team was passed out at the fire then Sullivan save his team and he whooped 2 guys from filming them because he is love his team and wants they be safe... He got divorced from Andy. Hope Andy realize soon.. Goes back with Sullivan because she love him and hope she doesn't slept with Captain from station 19 guy, hope back off in time..
the writers have told us tht marina's marriage is A+ so lets trust them...these two love eachother too much for this to ruin their marriage....they will be fine
Lol you must've not watched or paid attention on Greys Anatomy. When the same creators/writers ruined and slowly but surely burned down Calzona, (and also the characters themselves) the one and ONLY main, serious f/f LGBT couple on the show in the early half of the show. Give it time, once the happy honeymoon phase of Marina is over, you'll see the ship slowly burn and sink. That's what happens to most, if not all LGBT couples in shows and on networks like this. Hahahaa sorry!! Rant over. I'm just SO sick and annoyed of the few LGBT couples that are repped on air never last. Its so sad and demoralizing tbh. I'm fucking ANGRY xD
Idk if anyone else is a supergirl fan but when carina said that if being married to Maya meant having no kids it reminded me of the scene with Maggie and Alex and I hope Maya and carina end up agreeing on something
@@destionos5038 Can you blame the actor for wanting to leave tho? When her character was mistreated from the start and the fact that 75% of the couples scenes were cut? There could've been a better way to do that storyline and do it well but what the writers and creators did was sloppy, lazy and just plain dirty.
@@destionos5038 actually floriana didn’t want to leave, she actually had a lot of meetings with the show after her last episode even aired to go on as maggie. the show only wanted her on for one season and when they saw the big support they kept her on for five more episodes
It is an internal struggle for Maya. Maya realizes that even if she wants to have kids with Carina one day, but she is afraid that she will treated differently and unfairly based on the toxic masculinity and patriarchal rules in her workplace. Also, Maya doesn't want to be a terrible mom, who yells at her kids like her dad, neglects them, and never spend time with them, but she can't see herself giving up/sacrificing her life long dream to be a battalion fire chief just to be there for her kids.
From what I see they have not broken up, they have only had an argument but it does not make sense that they break the relationship now after getting married and I hope they can solve it.
i dont want to talk about the story line..but these two,such a great actors.danielle and stefania..their acting,the chemistry,the feels,the face expression,the dialogue delivery...so good.whoever idea for pairing this two together.....thank you!
I think maya just need more time about this baby issue. She herself have personal issue to resolved first.. maybe when time comes she will be braver and realized theres nothing to worry because Carina is there by her side always.
Hopefully when Maya finally realizes this, it is not too late. I feel like Carina will probably have a void inside of her when Maya told her that she doesn't want kids because they deter her path towards becoming a battalion fire chief. This might make Carina emotionally distant from Maya.
It's basically what Carina did when Maya proposed. She didn't believe in marriage, she didn't want to get married and she was willing to lose Maya forever over a principle. If Silvia (her friend Gabriella) hadn't talk to her I don't know what would have happened.
Ooooh this is such a hard conversation to watch 😢 Maya is scared to be like her dad, but she would be such an amazing mother ❤ #SaveStation19 #DoNotCancelStation19
There's a lot of similarities between Calzona and Marina. Their fights, how they met, etc. But I'm hoping that they will not lead to some sort of divorce or such thing as separation. I hope they have their happy endgame and Calzona should too. I wish for Grey's to bring them back so we can witness a double date with these two pair of lovely couples.
Yes but Arizona and Callie never had the kind of relationship Maya and Carina have. They didn't talk about stuff. They buried problems under the sand until they became too much and they exploded in their faces.
OMG this scene is so wonderful! At the beginning we have the old Maya « eyes forward » thinking about her career and how a child impact it. But then at the end we have the new Maya « eyes only on Carina » worrying about how two women can have a baby and the stress it cause and how it’s more difficult for same sex couple to be parents... This scene is wonderfully written! Can’t wait to see they journey through it.
If single parents can raise wonderful children, and play both parents roles, I don't see why it's so difficult for two women. There is a brain surgeon that I admire tremendously - his name is Dr. Ben Carson, Him, and his brother were raised by his mother. His father wasn't what he was supposed to be, and she kicked him out, took two jobs, and raised two wonderful children. They lived in the ghetto, but she was very disciplined, and they never got in trouble because they knew that their mother meant business.
Definitely a conversation people should have BEFORE a marriage certificate is signed... I'm sick of Grey's shows doing it in this order- can someone in that writers room just show a responsible relationship with full communication from the outset please
They did talked about it before getting married, this isn't new, they are just continuing the conversation. Carina enter the marriage with eyes wide open, knowing Maya wasn't sure about wanting kids, so it isn't really like Grey's Anatomy.
@@kidneytransplant2843 but the problem is not that she doesn’t want kids because it seems like she actually does. Her problem is that she thinks that she has to sacrifice what makes her happy in order to get to the top. In her mind, it’s really not even about the kids specifically it’s just about anything that would take her off her track to being captain again
Sus conversaciones son profundas, Carina y Maya se abren ante sus inquietudes por ser madres. En #Station19, se aborda a la perfección las relaciones personales. Quiero que esto siga, nos aportan mucho a todos los fans. #SaveStation19 #DoNotCancelStation19
For me, I’m sad that Station 19 went straight to this issue as early as episode 2. It’s kind of a little predictable, isn’t it? Done that, been there - so many times, including Arizona and Callie. Imagine instead if they’d used the opportunity to espouse the notion of a happy and strong and lasting relationship - but one which opted to remain childless, for responsible environmental reasons. Because that’s the big ticket item we surely, as a species, have to be addressing now. There’s too many of us and it’s causing big problems. Shondaland missed a big and important story opportunity here.
I’m kind of tired of seeing this discussion every time with the same outcome. ‘I want kids’ ‘I don’t want kids’ ‘okay fine let’s have kids’. Where is the representation of not wanting kids and being okay with that? I really hope this plays out in a different way than Maya giving in.
@@marieke6687 exactly! I'm really hoping they show a couple that doesn't get kids. I'm also really sick of seeing children in plot lines. Especially in greys. I feel like supergirl handled it the best than one of the partners caving
Maya is so relatable. ...sometimes in relationships", you over react from triggers, you over react when you're jealous, you over react when you feel like your person would rather call it quits on the bond rather than learning to understand you, being patient with you thru whatever is going on with you, compromise ,give you what you for your feelings , hold your hands through whatever the situation because they want to be with you in and through the ups and downs, the good and the bad. . See the situation from your hurt .. she has a lot of triggers... mayb she felt like she lived most of her life with a coach and not two parents, mayb she felt like she never had a childhood and most of it was centered around attaining her goals, she's worked so hard to be where she is and to want a child to have a child will make all she's worked for be in vane. .. and it is unfair that women have to be limited to things because they're pregnant or have a child... Maya is a fighter, and she pushes, maybe she should push the envelope for equality for both men and women. ... thsts what I love about then... as much as they are going through rough patches, they hold on to each other and not let go... carina is may's safe place.. she's patient, understanding and calm, and she needs to learn what exactly triggers the fear of having children for her... their relationship show you their growth and how they battle different situations right... it highlights so many things is the actual reality.
I hope after Danielle and Stefania finished filming this scene they gave each other a big, big hug! I can't even imagine having to do this scene over and over and the toll it would have on you. At least they are friends in real life and can lean on each other throughout and after they have finished filming.
Wait a second, wasn't carina the one who didn't want any kids back when she was with Arizona? I mean, when did she changed her mind? Wich is fine, but now it sounds like being a mother has always been an option for Carina
She never said she didn’t want children, she just said to Arizona that it was hard to settle down and have children as she was always a travelling doctor. Now she’s settled with Maya and happy, she can finally have a family.
Ok I wrote another reply that I deleted because I just thought about it and I don’t think Carina said that she didn’t want kids she just said that she didn’t like the way Arizona was raising Sofia. And last season when they were fighting before Carina was about to leave to Italy Carina said that she wanted kids but she didn’t want to get married.
I know that this child subject has to be work very well because that subject must be consistent and get to have a sensitize. Showing the importance of two women wanting to have a child, this has several branches that could be explained with affection
Funny how Carina talks about having a baby. Her character evolve from Carina who have nothing to do with sophia (arizona) to lets have one to Mayam 😂😁😘 still love her though
well 2 moms will be have a big responsibilities.if they got kids.except one of them give up on their career. so sad discussion about to have a family it's a big role...for them.goodluck I love you both.♥️♥️♥️
Carina is so sweet, and I understand her point, but also understand Maya's. Having children is a whole life commitment full of responsibilities, and disrupt your important goals in life. Why not wait until they are more settled?
Carina se udala za Mayu znajuci da Maya jos ne zeli decu i to joj je jasno i rekla pre nego sto su se vencale.Tako da je reziser malo preterao i pozirio sa svim ovim,bas mi je bezveze.Maya voli decu i to je neosporno i nadam se samo da ce do kraja biti sve kako treba.Divne su obe,ali je Maya moj favorit od pocetka serije i obozavam je.
Maya will need to compromise with Carina. She knew Carina wanted kids and she will need to sacrifice to make the person who she loves happy. Maya is just afraid of being a parents because of how her dad was to her. She will make the change needed. She need to understand the is not her dad and she can't be afraid to be a mom/parent.
If only Maya can share what her fears about having kids are (other than the fact she can't stand not being a firefighter and that she might never become a battalion fire chief if she chooses to have kids) with Carina without becoming defensive.
@@ekuz986 It's post dramatic stressed from what her father have put her through. Maya have never been easy expressing her feelings about her father and his abuse. It all stem from maya not wanting to be a horrible parent like her father. Her father mentally abuse her and made her believe that she can't be happy and successful at the sametime; which is all the way wrong. She have a hard time expressing her feeling even though she love Carina she is still afraid of failure. She needs to she a shrink.
What makes me sad is that Carina will most likely sacrifice her desire for kids just for Maya and it makes me sad because a relationship should be 50/50 and it seems that Carina is the only one doing sacrifices
She enter this marriage knowing about Maya's doubts about kids, they talked about it before and she conceded that they could talk about it again without strings after being married, all she is saying is that she is prepared to assume that the answer in the end could be a no, but she wants to be sure about the reasons why.
@@MariaMaria-nh3to I know, I do it myself. I think it just bothers me that they threw it in there as some kind of failed ice breaker - some kind of contrast in reactions, bc it's not cute as it usually is when Carina gets idioms wrong, now it's "whatever". And then they had to pick exactly one that she did get right...
I hate it when people say "you aren't afraid of anything". Hello? Everyone has a fear/fears, and is allowed to. I'm not saying Carina said the latter just saying. Either work with or around fear. Doesn't dismiss it or invalidate it
Bring Mason back, let Maya sort out her issues with a nice family intervention and therapy, lots of therapy. And if she still doesn't want kids, I've seen lot'a people treat dogs better than humans...so yeah, they have options. lolol
Oh I knew they gonna bring that up. Didn't think it's gonna be this fast! They always do that to gay couples....kids drama. It's just a little bit weird that Carina is all of sudden so into having kids. She didn't want to get married and now boooom, kids. Of course I undersrand it's drama, but there is do many other stuff to fight about... Ehhh...plus...Carina is more than Maya's wife. She is a DOCTOR for god's sake. She deserves so much more than few lines. Give her a proper storyline... I love her and Maya and I ship them so much it's insane...
actually even during the proposal episode carina said she wanted kids, she didn't wanna get married but she did want kids. but yes i agree carina deserves more lines and a proper storyline
@@11lowela I don’t really think it’s fast to be having this conversation. I mean if you think about it, they’ve been married for almost a year and were together for like a year before that. They are both in their mid 30s and not getting any younger so the clock is ticking. And if they really plan on spending the rest of their lives together this would be about the time to start talking about having kids.
My dad is a little like Maya's father not as bad tho. And I don't think I want kids because I might turn out like my dad, cause he turned out just a little better than my abusive grandfather. I understand Maya she is scared for her career and also of becoming like her dad. I do think that deep down she does want kids, some stuff she says over the seasons made me understand that she is just scared.
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How sad it is to see them argue and be bad. Maya does not want children and carina if she wants. They are going to have more problems and arguments. What a pity. In that she can end so many fights and arguments over the issue of having children.🤔🤔🤔😔😔💔💔💔
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Carina's face at the end is heartbreaking...
The sad thing is when Maya said that Warren and Miller can enjoy the "Magic", it feels like she DOES WANT kids. She's just really terrified about what it would do to her career and also I think she's terrified of what kind of a parent should be. I watched this 5 times now. And I'm still crying when this scene come up. Because it is so true. It's a flawed system.
yeeees, my thoughts exactly :(
YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING OF!!!
Maya should really go to therapy to face the issues she's been going through.
@@omarcogle1965 yeah, i guess so, but sorry: the system is shit, too. i mean, i am from germany, but in terms of having kids as a woman with a wife: this shit ain't helpin us out, only the dads with wives. That is not unfair, and it's not Maya's fault here, either
@@Caro-kv4gd It sucks, but with Maya, I also think she's afraid of being like her dad if she has a kid, and it took this long for her to realize that she was abused. That's why I was mentioning about the Therapy. There also have been woman firefighters who have kids and still can do the job.
As newly married myself, I actually think having this discussion is not the bad thing nor it means that they gonna break up. What wonderful about Carina is that she listens and open to discussion. She stated what she wants and want to understand her partner point of view.
One of the thing I love the most about them is that they talk to each other. They don't leave things unsaid, that's why I tend to not be worried for them.
But still, Krista I'm watching you. You're walking on egg skins here (intended)
I agree! I am glad that Carina is open to a conversation. This is truly a beautiful thing to see
Absolutely. I like that discussions like this are mirrored more in real life, rather than TV fantasy. This discussion is very realistic, and important to have, and it's all part of growing and evolving as a couple. Maya's vulnerability is so real here - her fears of becoming like her father as well as the nervousness she has about how having kids will effect her career path. The latter just shows how broken the system is, that she has to worry that much about not being able to achieve her professional dreams if she wants to have a kid.
It´s true what you said. but it´s a little selfish the side of Maya because I think that all the time Carina is putting a side her desires and especially with this theme. Besides, Carina is always supporting and understanding Maya´s fears and so on. It´s not fair.
Yesss! I love how they communicate even when they argue. Having watched Maya from the beginning, this wouldn't have been possible then. S1 and S2 Maya would have run and avoided the issue altogether and even rage as an act of self-preservation. Her character has shown so much growth, especially when it comes to facing her personal struggles and I'm glad that Carina helped her through them.
I love how Carina listens. They are a great match
The sexism rooted in the SFD is shown in this speech by Maya. If she decides to be a mother, she will lose her job. It's a terrible situation. I understand Maya and I don't judge her. The problem is this sexism that exists and the series is addressing it brilliantly.
This is plainly an internal struggle for Maya. She will not lose her job - she just can't go on emergency calls. That's a choice SHE makes, not the dept. No public emergency unit is going to permit a pregnant woman go on an emergency call. It's not fair to her, her baby, and believe it or not, the public, whom she is sworn to protect. Maya acts like Parental leave will mean she will never get promoted - hogwash! Every institution has challenges - Maya seems to be distracted or worried about something else.
@@scales57 i agree. I was confused why it would be unfair for female firefighters. The part about being put on a desk job is normal if someone is pregnant. That'll happen if they were in the police department or something. I think Maya is insecure of her potentially being a mom. Lane really put lasting mark on her. Regarding her career not progressing, the baby situation is just an excuse. For sure there are parent female firefighters out there who's careers have progressed.
She is just scared to be like the dad,and I guess Carina has the great chance to carry the baby and should be able to understand Maya, period
This is definitely residual guilt from the way her dad raised. She still thinks that being #1 has to come at the cost of everything that makes you happy
What I am sure is, Carina is there to help Maya see through the shit her dad planted in her head and finally figured out happiness is the most important thing in life; and even being whatever she wants come with a cost, she can always choose as it is her decision to make.
@@Qbonbon yeah I think they will resolve this maybe in the next episode and Maya will change her mind because she realizes that not everything has to be about being at the top and it’s ok to take detours for your own happiness.
Exactly eyes in front... but I think Maya can help her with that trigger
And that definitely why she needs Carina more than ever
That look in Carina’s face at the end still got me.. Still so heart-wrenching everytime I watch this. Stefania is such an amazing actress.
I am hopeful that Marina will be fine 🥺
It’s infuriating that dads will be treated differently , she said it loud . Marina is the reason I watch station 19. Don’t mess with them thanks !😀
This scene was well-written and well executed. Bravo 🥺
The emotional conversation between Carina and Maya about having children was beautifully captured in #Station19. The scene's poignant depth was heightened by the artful use of a mirror, adding a reflective layer to the characters' inner struggles. Kudos to the show for not just telling a story but crafting it visually. #Savestation19
therapy would do wonderful things for maya
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I think either Maya's too proud to go to therapy or she doesn't want to feel that it makes her weak about it.
Maya wanted everything in her way .. She need to change..
She hates Sullivan what he did but the truth , it's her fault got fired from Captain in her station. Sullivan wanted station 19 stay together and saved because his wife house of work . Nobody see that, team was passed out at the fire then Sullivan save his team and he whooped 2 guys from filming them because he is love his team and wants they be safe...
He got divorced from Andy.
Hope Andy realize soon.. Goes back with Sullivan because she love him and hope she doesn't slept with Captain from station 19 guy, hope back off in time..
@@catrachaV4 I hope that Andy and Sullivan do work it out though, even though they're divorced.
Been saying this since season 1 lol
the writers have told us tht marina's marriage is A+ so lets trust them...these two love eachother too much for this to ruin their marriage....they will be fine
yeah ur right
I hope so
It’s still nerve racking whenever they start to disagree...
I hope so,
Lol you must've not watched or paid attention on Greys Anatomy. When the same creators/writers ruined and slowly but surely burned down Calzona, (and also the characters themselves) the one and ONLY main, serious f/f LGBT couple on the show in the early half of the show. Give it time, once the happy honeymoon phase of Marina is over, you'll see the ship slowly burn and sink. That's what happens to most, if not all LGBT couples in shows and on networks like this.
Hahahaa sorry!! Rant over. I'm just SO sick and annoyed of the few LGBT couples that are repped on air never last. Its so sad and demoralizing tbh. I'm fucking ANGRY xD
Idk if anyone else is a supergirl fan but when carina said that if being married to Maya meant having no kids it reminded me of the scene with Maggie and Alex and I hope Maya and carina end up agreeing on something
That wound has laid low for so long until you dredged it up. Maggie and Alex broke up over baby issue is the worst!
Let's not forget that story line was written because Maggie wanted to leave the show.. This is happening in episode 2, so we need not to be scared..
@@destionos5038 Can you blame the actor for wanting to leave tho? When her character was mistreated from the start and the fact that 75% of the couples scenes were cut? There could've been a better way to do that storyline and do it well but what the writers and creators did was sloppy, lazy and just plain dirty.
I'm still heartbroken from DanVers but I can say I'm happy that they both stood by something they know they can't compromise.
@@destionos5038 actually floriana didn’t want to leave, she actually had a lot of meetings with the show after her last episode even aired to go on as maggie. the show only wanted her on for one season and when they saw the big support they kept her on for five more episodes
How much sexism exists in the SFD, Maya's point is totally valid
Maya wants kids she’s just afraid of loosing who she is a firefighter…:
It is an internal struggle for Maya. Maya realizes that even if she wants to have kids with Carina one day, but she is afraid that she will treated differently and unfairly based on the toxic masculinity and patriarchal rules in her workplace. Also, Maya doesn't want to be a terrible mom, who yells at her kids like her dad, neglects them, and never spend time with them, but she can't see herself giving up/sacrificing her life long dream to be a battalion fire chief just to be there for her kids.
exactly!!!
No, she is afraid of not being able to be a firefighter anymore, because of the system.
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From what I see they have not broken up, they have only had an argument but it does not make sense that they break the relationship now after getting married and I hope they can solve it.
i dont want to talk about the story line..but these two,such a great actors.danielle and stefania..their acting,the chemistry,the feels,the face expression,the dialogue delivery...so good.whoever idea for pairing this two together.....thank you!
Love how the scene and maya dialogue bring the subjet of inegality between men and women, still in 2021
Hope she will find strength to bit the odds 🤞
I think maya just need more time about this baby issue. She herself have personal issue to resolved first.. maybe when time comes she will be braver and realized theres nothing to worry because Carina is there by her side always.
I think by the end of this, Maya will realize that she is afraid of one thing, which is to lose Carina over this issue.
Hopefully when Maya finally realizes this, it is not too late. I feel like Carina will probably have a void inside of her when Maya told her that she doesn't want kids because they deter her path towards becoming a battalion fire chief. This might make Carina emotionally distant from Maya.
I totally agree with you
It's basically what Carina did when Maya proposed. She didn't believe in marriage, she didn't want to get married and she was willing to lose Maya forever over a principle. If Silvia (her friend Gabriella) hadn't talk to her I don't know what would have happened.
Ooooh this is such a hard conversation to watch 😢 Maya is scared to be like her dad, but she would be such an amazing mother ❤ #SaveStation19 #DoNotCancelStation19
My God! They are soooooooo sweet and emphathetic to each others SWEET !❤
There's a lot of similarities between Calzona and Marina. Their fights, how they met, etc. But I'm hoping that they will not lead to some sort of divorce or such thing as separation. I hope they have their happy endgame and Calzona should too. I wish for Grey's to bring them back so we can witness a double date with these two pair of lovely couples.
¡Spin-off Calzona + Marina + Teddy + Amelia!
I cried the whole time 😭 just let them be happy 😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
remember arizona and callie used to have this kind of discussion.
Totally, I hope the writers don’t make the same mistakes they did with Callie and Arizona, and at least Carina and Maya have a happily ever after
@@paulinac61 yeah, i hope they have the happily ever after they deserve.
Yes but Arizona and Callie never had the kind of relationship Maya and Carina have. They didn't talk about stuff. They buried problems under the sand until they became too much and they exploded in their faces.
@@valeriazenoni6478 probably because what callie and arizona faces is way way way darker and heavier to talk openly....
Nomás k aki eyas ya están casadas y eyas no se casaron después
OMG this scene is so wonderful! At the beginning we have the old Maya « eyes forward » thinking about her career and how a child impact it. But then at the end we have the new Maya « eyes only on Carina » worrying about how two women can have a baby and the stress it cause and how it’s more difficult for same sex couple to be parents...
This scene is wonderfully written!
Can’t wait to see they journey through it.
But I think Maya made Carina feel that she only has "eyes forward on her career", and Maya will always place her career over their happiness. 💔
@@ekuz986 we’ll see...
If single parents can raise wonderful children, and play both parents roles, I don't see why it's so difficult for two women. There is a brain surgeon that I admire tremendously - his name is Dr. Ben Carson, Him, and his brother were raised by his mother. His father wasn't what he was supposed to be, and she kicked him out, took two jobs, and raised two wonderful children. They lived in the ghetto, but she was very disciplined, and they never got in trouble because they knew that their mother meant business.
They are sooo real. Looks like watching real couple
The joy these 2 souls have brought me 😭❤ You'll be fine bubbas
If you ever mess this couple up you'll lose more than half of the people who watch your show.
Be. Careful.
Marina 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 They deserve to be happy....
Definitely a conversation people should have BEFORE a marriage certificate is signed... I'm sick of Grey's shows doing it in this order- can someone in that writers room just show a responsible relationship with full communication from the outset please
They did talked about it before getting married, this isn't new, they are just continuing the conversation. Carina enter the marriage with eyes wide open, knowing Maya wasn't sure about wanting kids, so it isn't really like Grey's Anatomy.
can we take the time to appreciate carina deluca’s outfit, icon.
These two.......... the acting is chefs kiss
I hope Maya changes her mind and realizes that it’s still possible for her to get what she wants out of life while staying on her track
Maya has never actually wanted kids so I dont think it's what is going to get her life on track. Even then
@@kidneytransplant2843 but the problem is not that she doesn’t want kids because it seems like she actually does. Her problem is that she thinks that she has to sacrifice what makes her happy in order to get to the top. In her mind, it’s really not even about the kids specifically it’s just about anything that would take her off her track to being captain again
Will Maya change her mind
@@kerrykardosz1995 If she doesn’t I doubt that her and Carina will stay together for very long. Hopefully she realizes how hurt Carina is
I hope too ruclips.net/video/1h5jdHMc0yM/видео.html
NOW this is going somewhere and a relationship
Thank you so much for uploading
Sus conversaciones son profundas, Carina y Maya se abren ante sus inquietudes por ser madres. En #Station19, se aborda a la perfección las relaciones personales. Quiero que esto siga, nos aportan mucho a todos los fans.
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The solution is to forget about those kids and bring their real dogs into the show 😍🤗🐶🐕💙👏🏾
For me, I’m sad that Station 19 went straight to this issue as early as episode 2. It’s kind of a little predictable, isn’t it? Done that, been there - so many times, including Arizona and Callie. Imagine instead if they’d used the opportunity to espouse the notion of a happy and strong and lasting relationship - but one which opted to remain childless, for responsible environmental reasons. Because that’s the big ticket item we surely, as a species, have to be addressing now. There’s too many of us and it’s causing big problems. Shondaland missed a big and important story opportunity here.
I’m kind of tired of seeing this discussion every time with the same outcome. ‘I want kids’ ‘I don’t want kids’ ‘okay fine let’s have kids’. Where is the representation of not wanting kids and being okay with that? I really hope this plays out in a different way than Maya giving in.
@@marieke6687 They did that with Cristina and Owen in Grey’s with Owen wanting them but not Cristina.
@@marieke6687 exactly! I'm really hoping they show a couple that doesn't get kids. I'm also really sick of seeing children in plot lines. Especially in greys. I feel like supergirl handled it the best than one of the partners caving
@@Unbaked_P0tat00 didn’t they break up over it?
Maya is so relatable. ...sometimes in relationships", you over react from triggers, you over react when you're jealous, you over react when you feel like your person would rather call it quits on the bond rather than learning to understand you, being patient with you thru whatever is going on with you, compromise ,give you what you for your feelings , hold your hands through whatever the situation because they want to be with you in and through the ups and downs, the good and the bad. . See the situation from your hurt .. she has a lot of triggers... mayb she felt like she lived most of her life with a coach and not two parents, mayb she felt like she never had a childhood and most of it was centered around attaining her goals, she's worked so hard to be where she is and to want a child to have a child will make all she's worked for be in vane. .. and it is unfair that women have to be limited to things because they're pregnant or have a child... Maya is a fighter, and she pushes, maybe she should push the envelope for equality for both men and women. ... thsts what I love about then... as much as they are going through rough patches, they hold on to each other and not let go... carina is may's safe place.. she's patient, understanding and calm, and she needs to learn what exactly triggers the fear of having children for her... their relationship show you their growth and how they battle different situations right... it highlights so many things is the actual reality.
Waw I hope by that she change her mind and carina will wait for her and understand her
This ship took over my life over the past two weeks and I'm loving it. all the love and the drama and the smiles and the tears. Kill me now.
I'm really rooting for them more then any other couple on tv
My god, Carina is the greatest person.
I agree 💯 percent with you! I wish I had a Carina so she could understand me like that! I love you Bambina Carina!!!!
I hope after Danielle and Stefania finished filming this scene they gave each other a big, big hug! I can't even imagine having to do this scene over and over and the toll it would have on you. At least they are friends in real life and can lean on each other throughout and after they have finished filming.
My favorite couple,from Taiwan ♥️
Pregnant Carina would be so cute.
I really hope they don’t break up because of this they are a awesome couple really
Callie and Arizona vibes here. Miss them so much.
" okay , Maya , i love you " ❤
Woooooow , beautiful 😍😘
Wow the infamous baby storyline how original
oh they will be the best moms ever! #SaveStation19 #DoNotCancelStation19
Flashback di guerra from sanvers .I hope it doesn’t end up like them
This is like the Callie and Arizona thing. It's very familiar
Gotta love recycled storylines in the Greys universe
I am holding on to the fact that marina have built a solid foundation and have grown separate and together. 🙏🙏🙏
I was thinking the exactly the same thing deja vu I hope not 🤞🏻
One question, is it a real new poster of Station 19 at the end of the video? Because I gotta tell you I love that Carina is there!
It's real!
Wait a second, wasn't carina the one who didn't want any kids back when she was with Arizona? I mean, when did she changed her mind? Wich is fine, but now it sounds like being a mother has always been an option for Carina
I thought she did, she just didn't like the way Arizona coddled Sophia 🤔🤷♀️
She never said she didn’t want children, she just said to Arizona that it was hard to settle down and have children as she was always a travelling doctor. Now she’s settled with Maya and happy, she can finally have a family.
Ok I wrote another reply that I deleted because I just thought about it and I don’t think Carina said that she didn’t want kids she just said that she didn’t like the way Arizona was raising Sofia.
And last season when they were fighting before Carina was about to leave to Italy Carina said that she wanted kids but she didn’t want to get married.
They just started as wives.... The writers supposed not to put any arguments for these two at the beginning.... especially discuss about kids
I love them..
Anyone else gets a flashback in 00:45 that’s what Callie almost said to Arizona in Grey’s “I don’t want to have kids if it means I can’t be with you”
POR FAVOR SUBTITULOS EN ESPAÑOL 🙏
#savestation19!!! 19 deserves 20seasons like greys anatomy. 19 is my comfort tv show.!!
I see them as arizona and callie HUUHUUhUHUH
I know that this child subject has to be work very well because that subject must be consistent and get to have a sensitize. Showing the importance of two women wanting to have a child, this has several branches that could be explained with affection
LET THEM BE HAPPY
2:34 this moment
Oh god Daniels acting😰😭
Funny how Carina talks about having a baby. Her character evolve from Carina who have nothing to do with sophia (arizona) to lets have one to Mayam 😂😁😘 still love her though
Those ABC writers better not screw up this amazing couple and story line.
well 2 moms will be have a big responsibilities.if they got kids.except one of them give up on their career. so sad discussion about to have a family it's a big role...for them.goodluck I love you both.♥️♥️♥️
Have to disagree that one or the other will have to give up their career. All kinds of families have both parents working.
What episode is this?
5x02
Beautiful couple
I hope Marina will be fine.
I just like their bedroom dresser, and when I did a search for it, this is the only thing that came up lol.
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Where I can watch this series free in English subtitles?
Carina is so sweet, and I understand her point, but also understand Maya's. Having children is a whole life commitment full of responsibilities, and disrupt your important goals in life. Why not wait until they are more settled?
Carina se udala za Mayu znajuci da Maya jos ne zeli decu i to joj je jasno i rekla pre nego sto su se vencale.Tako da je reziser malo preterao i pozirio sa svim ovim,bas mi je bezveze.Maya voli decu i to je neosporno i nadam se samo da ce do kraja biti sve kako treba.Divne su obe,ali je Maya moj favorit od pocetka serije i obozavam je.
Maya will need to compromise with Carina. She knew Carina wanted kids and she will need to sacrifice to make the person who she loves happy. Maya is just afraid of being a parents because of how her dad was to her. She will make the change needed. She need to understand the is not her dad and she can't be afraid to be a mom/parent.
If only Maya can share what her fears about having kids are (other than the fact she can't stand not being a firefighter and that she might never become a battalion fire chief if she chooses to have kids) with Carina without becoming defensive.
@@ekuz986 It's post dramatic stressed from what her father have put her through. Maya have never been easy expressing her feelings about her father and his abuse. It all stem from maya not wanting to be a horrible parent like her father. Her father mentally abuse her and made her believe that she can't be happy and successful at the sametime; which is all the way wrong. She have a hard time expressing her feeling even though she love Carina she is still afraid of failure. She needs to she a shrink.
Maybe a conversation with Diane in a couple of episodes time will help??
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What makes me sad is that Carina will most likely sacrifice her desire for kids just for Maya and it makes me sad because a relationship should be 50/50 and it seems that Carina is the only one doing sacrifices
She enter this marriage knowing about Maya's doubts about kids, they talked about it before and she conceded that they could talk about it again without strings after being married, all she is saying is that she is prepared to assume that the answer in the end could be a no, but she wants to be sure about the reasons why.
On episode 3x14 Carina uses "walking on eggshells" correctly in that scene in Maya's office, but now she doesn't know the right words? Okay, then.
it's okay when you speak foreign language, you can forget sometimes
@@MariaMaria-nh3to I know, I do it myself. I think it just bothers me that they threw it in there as some kind of failed ice breaker - some kind of contrast in reactions, bc it's not cute as it usually is when Carina gets idioms wrong, now it's "whatever". And then they had to pick exactly one that she did get right...
@@bea1302 yes, i agree tho
It’s poor writing
I hate it when people say "you aren't afraid of anything". Hello? Everyone has a fear/fears, and is allowed to. I'm not saying Carina said the latter just saying. Either work with or around fear. Doesn't dismiss it or invalidate it
Bring Mason back, let Maya sort out her issues with a nice family intervention and therapy, lots of therapy. And if she still doesn't want kids, I've seen lot'a people treat dogs better than humans...so yeah, they have options. lolol
Que bueno sería si lo subtitularan en español... 😊
Oh I knew they gonna bring that up. Didn't think it's gonna be this fast! They always do that to gay couples....kids drama. It's just a little bit weird that Carina is all of sudden so into having kids. She didn't want to get married and now boooom, kids. Of course I undersrand it's drama, but there is do many other stuff to fight about... Ehhh...plus...Carina is more than Maya's wife. She is a DOCTOR for god's sake. She deserves so much more than few lines. Give her a proper storyline... I love her and Maya and I ship them so much it's insane...
actually even during the proposal episode carina said she wanted kids, she didn't wanna get married but she did want kids. but yes i agree carina deserves more lines and a proper storyline
@@ashitatatireddy8459 I know she said that. It's just weird she's pushing to have a baby just after 11 months of narriage.
@@11lowela oh ok yea that makes sense
@@11lowela she not getting any younger so probably she won’t be able to an a couple of years
@@11lowela I don’t really think it’s fast to be having this conversation. I mean if you think about it, they’ve been married for almost a year and were together for like a year before that. They are both in their mid 30s and not getting any younger so the clock is ticking. And if they really plan on spending the rest of their lives together this would be about the time to start talking about having kids.
My dad is a little like Maya's father not as bad tho. And I don't think I want kids because I might turn out like my dad, cause he turned out just a little better than my abusive grandfather. I understand Maya she is scared for her career and also of becoming like her dad. I do think that deep down she does want kids, some stuff she says over the seasons made me understand that she is just scared.
I love story movie Maya and Carina ,...
I hate how they are not paying attention to maya mental health
Espero que en algún momento pongan subtiu
Uhh... we'll people welcome to shondaland... its either they divorce or one of them die ....
At least Mya is confronting her problems but her best friend needs to take responsibility and confront her own selfish ways
Por favor traducir al español. Ya lo he solicitado varias veces.Debo imaginar los diálogos según escenografía.
Que pena me da No poder disfrutar de esta serie .
For once is it possible to have a healthy couple pleaaaaaase
Why did you end the video like this?
So Arizona and Carina broke up about Sofia lol and now this hits different
“eggskins”💀💀
Name of the series?
Station 19
Isn’t this the same issue with Arizona and Callie also? The other didn’t want kids..
Egg skins sounds better 😂😂😂
How sad it is to see them argue and be bad. Maya does not want children and carina if she wants. They are going to have more problems and arguments. What a pity. In that she can end so many fights and arguments over the issue of having children.🤔🤔🤔😔😔💔💔💔
Carina you’re so right about Ali children best thing for you and another wife and great faith and it will change you