Was aware of it when I was in USAF, and would pick up the occasional piece of FOD, did FOD walks on the ramp when I worked for SWA. I was always amazed at how much junk ended up on the ramp, even at an airport where jetways were used to board pax.
Holy crap! This really let you know how much the cost of things has gone up. $25,000 to overhaul a fighter engine! I couldn't overhaul my Bonanza engine for that!
@Whale Driver, Back when this movie was produced, a new car could be purchased for less than $2,000, a new motorcycle could be bought for $550, a new house located in a major city in Calif. could be bought for $7,500... Gas was about $ 0.25 /gallon... That was when a $1 bill actually could buy a lunch at a sit-down & eat kind of a place, and $0.35 could fill a lunchbox with a meal... Times have changed, and so has the cost of living....
I was a brand new weapons mechanic assigned to my first duty station in 1961 when I arrived at a base operating the F-100. The first day on the job, a coworker took me to the coffee shop in the hangar on the way back from a visit to the flight line. On the wall was a large sign: PREVENT FOD. When I asked what FOD was, everybody snickered. When the base began the transition to the F-105 later in the year, we all thought that the height of the F-105 placed the intakes high enough to make FOD a lesser problem. We soon learned differently.
In my first year in a Navy A7 E squadron I learned a lot about FOD, how to prevent it and myself from becoming it. A7s have a huge, low intake that loves sucking things up. One of the things we used for tool control was specialized tool boxes. Each task had a list of tools needed for it, The worker signed out that set of tools. When opened each tool was fit into a Styrofoam cut out that made it very easy to spot a missing tool. All tools were marked permanently so if a missing tool was found it could be replaced and the person that lost it identified.
@NotaVampyre In the Israeli Air Force, each and every tool has a long serial code permenantly engraved on it. The code identifies the issuing tool room. The iron clad rule is, every tool that's issued out of a tool room is loged in a diary, including the tail Nr. of the inended jet. So if it's not returned, that's the first place to look. One time we had a mising hammer that could not be located. Eventually the whole base was grounded. Turns out the hammer had slipped inbetween the double skin of a Phantoms underbelly pannel, right under the engine. The hammer had wedged itself tight, and required forcfully fishing it out. Can't imagine the amound of damage a hammer would do.
@@trespire true! Israel had a common sense approach all most things military. My dad flew Phantoms and told a story about when Israel got its first F4s the pilots were being trained to always turn their heads to scan for hostiles on their six and the pilots asked why there werent rear view mirrors installed to let the pilots check behind without having to turn their heads. the American instructors explained that the process for modifying a fighter jet involved many steps and a ton of paperwork and would take forever . Shortly afterward rearview mirrors from military trucks turned up bolted into F4 cockpits
NOTE THE RARE ENGINE CHANGE FOOTAGE INCLUDING THE TAIL INSTALLATION. Quality color maintenance footage isn't common but without maintenance aircraft are just static displays. This also demonstrates how labor-intensive much of the work was (and some still is). The crepe paper (chosen because like walnut shells engines can digest it should it fail) tuft tool is elegantly simple too. Young maintainers (and engineers) should watch these for interesting insights on how their predecessors did their tasks.
The only FOD damage I saw working on F-105's, was the picture of the one that blew half of the engine apart, lost most of the tail feathers and landed at Korat with the biggest piece of FOD, a Russian air to air missile.
@@GamingHelp I don't know if he really knew that parts of the missile were stuck in his plane, until he landed. All I saw was the famous picture, the original, hung on the Debriefing wall. I'm sure he had a few beers after that flight.
@Ernest Sabatino Korat 71-72. 21 years old and wide eyed. Left on a medivac Silver Samlar, spent three weeks trying to remember my name, worked 137 days straight on the flight line. For some it wasn't long ago, we revisit it every night. When I got out of the hospital at Travis, my dad asked me how old I thought I was, I told him not 21. He agreed, more like 35. It's taken easily twenty to thirty years to put it behind me and still people call us "Baby Killers".
I was performing a max power ground run on a turbofan engine mounted on a test bed once. On this aircraft the engine intake was located around 15 feet above the ramp. The ground crewman’s inter-phone cord was actually lifted off the ground and sucked into the intake. Fortunately the damage was limited to the stators just behind the fan. After that we always secured the inter-phone cord with a weighted bag. When the humidity was high, one would often see a condensation vortex streaming off the ramp in into the intake.
Wow😳 I've always thought it was cool, watching the 737's, A320's run up to TOGA power on the ground during humid days, and seeing the vortex run up from the ground to the intake 👍
Wish they showed videos like this when I was in navy in flight deck during the 90s. We just had hear say from on job training and doing fod walk downs etc or our abh advancement book. Only video every saw about military training was the flight deck USS Forestall fire and what we learned from it. Otherwise didn’t have RUclips to watch these older military videos. Man so wish we did. Would made things so so much easier then having to read those advancement books or find someone above you to teach you what needed to advance if they even knew it rt..
These many fine technicians gave me an aircraft that put me at the top of my game. Crew Chief extraordinaire. Best dam'd aircraft in the Vietnam War theater, the "THUD" was the work horse that put all others to shame. Bar None! Aka Ken Thunder 354th TFS 355 TFW, Takhli Thailand 69 70.
On aircraft carriers, there is a FOD, or Foreign Object Debris walk down, to reduce the risk of damage to the engines. In some instances someone would place a known object beneath a tire or a pad eye. If no one found it, the walk down would happen again after some excoriation. In any case, FOD can mean different things. U.S.S. Midway (1977-‘79)
I was in a VP squadron and we would walk the ramp in our area. Sometimes the CO would have a $20 placed in the tie down and who ever found is got to keep it. Patrol Squadron 23 1972-1975.
Somewhere on youtube is a soviet military pilot comparing their planes with those of the USA, He said the US built planes like fine watches, the Russians built flying tanks. We did FOD sweeps on the apron and taxiways, Their bases look deserted, abandoned, piles of junk. Their A/C designed (with low air intakes) take off roll is with air entry at the top of the fuselage. It then switches to scoop intake after gaining some altitude. These philosophies have historical roots. Which is better?, It depends on the combat. However, I think trying to have the F35 do the Warthogs job has more to do with money than practical experience. Hope I survive long enough to see robot wingmen and laser weapons on fighters. But not long enough to see ALL of this stuff thrown into a big war. Yes I am a vet, USAF and USN. Avionics and HF DF.
Over the course of a twenty year career in the Air Force anytime FOD training or any ancillary training for that matter came due for me, I would release a groan so deep it would resonate far beyond the furthest spot on the ramp and well past the trim pad. Stumble across this FOD training film for the Thud and I have a smile on my face that all the rags and MEK in the world couldn’t wipe away
Serving in the air force in the early 80s, we stood side by side the width of the flightless and walked the length of flight line and back! It was called the FOD walk!
@johnhunter9646 we actually had to do it every morning at the start of first shift! Didn't take but 10 to 15 minutes! Our flight line for the AC-130s and MC-130s had probably 12 or 14 parking spots
I remember watching films like this when I was in the Air Cadets back in the late 1980s. Must have been the Royal Air Force version as the aircraft was the Panavia Tornado.The films looked absolutely ancient even then, but can't have been all that old with a Tornado! The quality of the film looked like the aircraft SHOULD have been a Hawker Hunter or maybe something even earlier!
FOD is something to be taken very seriously Gas turbines cannot use inlet debris screens as there is none in the air and they block smooth inlet airflow through the engines, this was realised early and have become some what of an antique for these engines, maybe for ground testing remember FOD was played a part of the Air France Concorde mishap, DC-10 engine part was proven for the tire explosion, thankyou for showing us F-105 Vintage video
I worked V1 Div. On USS Boxer as a crash crewman. We had a plane maintenance guy fod out a Harrier Rolls Royce Pegasus engine 1,000,000 because the dumb ass had his gloves sucked out of his front pocket! That plane sat in the hanger bay the whole cruise! Flight quarters flight quarters! All flight deck personnel muster on the bow for fod walk down. Check your person for anything in your pockets!
Seeing this I just can’t understand how that airman survived being sucked into the intake - the video footage is horrifying to watch and readily available on YT if anyone hasn’t seen it.
It was only his headgear (helmet) that went through the engine... the technician slithered back out the front of the intake duct, and was promptly dismissed to go change his clothes.
These were the old days, when quality control was in its infant state. Quality control starts when design starts, when the the metal ore is dug out of the ground, when the people involved in the total production line are educated. Quality control never stops. Inspection is done during all parts of the build of all parts until the final product is assembled. Procedures, maintaining control of all parts delivered to build and manufacturing must be in place. All material, tools and supporting parts as simple as a cloth for cleaning oil, - everything, interring the build should be accounted for. Log all parts interring and exiting the workplace. Check against the product plan and find parts missing: The parts that was not used as part of the assembly should be checked out after the end of this assembly process. It is laborious, but it one of more, necessary process to make a safe product. Everybody that have worked in the industry should know that. Guess my line of business for the last 40 years. You will probably guess wrong :-) My regards to all the people who perform to security standards in their daily work and make our world a safer place to live in. It is not all about airplanes.
If you think quality control was in an infant state in 1960, you do not know your history. Look up the story of the Johansson gauge blocks, and the difference they made in WWII armaments production, for a start. Also, all of the foreign object control techniques you see in this film were well established during WWII aircraft production.
I can't imagine the F-105 had much FOD trouble. The inlets are tiny and a mile above ground level due to the F-105's long legs. The F-16 on the other hand....
When I was in A school the tool boxes are designed for instant inventory. every tool has a foam cutout or a way to instantly tell if something was missing.
They are D models, but I could not see enough detail to tell what series, or RE number as they were identified. I worked on the F-105D from October 1961 through the end of 1963, and every thing I see in this film looks to be of the period. F model deliveries began in 1963, and I do not see any of them. If I had to guess, I would say 1962 or 1963, and the footage was shot at Republic's home field at Farmington, Long Island.
10/32" bolt?????? I'm a machinist and have been since the 70's and I have never heard of a 10/32" bolt, however I have heard of a 5/16" bolt. 02:34 Where's the torque wrench?
Does someone knows what is the aim of the white circular scotches , spread on an impressive number of places on the fuselage ? Points to be checked ? Thanks
"Then, after the final inspection, the engine is sealed, after which the engine is opened and again inspected a final time, then it is examined completely and sealed until until it is ready for final inspection just before the engine is first run, assuming, of course, that it passes final inspection."
FOD stands for "foreign object DEBRIS" - not "DAMAGE". Six years active duty in the USN and I never looked for foreign object DAMAGE. During a FOD walkdown you are looking for debris which could get sucked in a jet engine, as in the case of the Concord crash in Paris, for example.
They mentioned how air is,"...accelerated to tremendous velocities at the intake." as well as calling a #10-32 fastener a, "ten thirty seconds bolt." Not to mention calling FOD, "eff oh dee." 🤣
With foregin object they mean smoking tobacco workers , spit ,muddy shoes ,gloves -clothes (naked workers having sex ) I guess tools also and wine bottles -This makes me think WHO did they hire ...Hells angels ?
MISFITS. Hells Angels rejects, a interesting biker gang back in the day, around northern California in the mid '60s to early '80s. Wannabes. A lot of the ones that I saw went into the military when they failed socially. I'll just say they came out improved.
No, a size 10 machine screw, which has no numerical designation, and fine pitch of 32 threads per inch. It is written as 10-32. The normal course thread version would be 10-24. Two sizes smaller diameter than 1/4”.
@@toadamineAir Force public relations specialist is no expert, but I get your point. Technically, if you can scrw a nut onto it, it is a bolt, as opposed to a wood screw. But in the industry, it is common vernacular to call any bolt smaller than 1/4” a machine screw. In fact oddly enough, we won’t just call it a machine screw, we will say it as, “hey, hand me two 8-24 machine screws”.
I hate it when some idiot says " a ten thirty seconds bolt" Firstly, it's called a ten thirty two screw. The thirty two means thirty two threads per inch. It's a measurement of the pitch of the screw thread. The ten stands for the wire size of the diameter of the screw (#10 is ,I think, .198 diameter). So saying ten thirty seconds like it's a measurement is wrong and .198 inch is much to small to be a bolt or have a hex head.
Sorry you don't know your hardware. There is no such thing as a threaded fastener that is too small to have a hex head and to be called a bolt. A bolt is a fastener that is placed in a hole in material and secured by a fastener. Both bolt and fastener are usually threaded, but not always. A screw is a threaded fastener that screws directly into the material to be fastened. The threads may be cut into the material before the screw is installed, or the screw may cut its own threads as it is installed. Modern fasteners are innovative and may not fit exactly into old categories, but when I got my A&P license in 1965, aviation regulations specified the 10-32 fastener as the smallest to be used as a structural fastener in an airframe.
I've seen tiny bolts that was way smaller than 10-32 screws. You should see some of the scale modeling sizes of scale bolts with hex heads. Buf there's a size difference between a ship and a boat and a screw and a bolt. Size matters. And a 10-32 is usually described as a bolt in assembly manuals. Most people can't visualize the inch scale and figure out that 1/2 is smaller than 9/16. Familiarity breeds lackadaisical sloppiness. I don't even want to talk about the metric system.
I feel like you should make mirage 3000 with this one yeah i.hope you Retrieved JFK jet with Huoner because gods live a long long long long long time my friends and they do not forget especially someone seeking revenge like a true enemy you avenge is like avenging the Lord 🙏 for our Goddess yes we must find her and prevent death from taking her young life she needs to learn and be savoured please
Brand New engine? Don’t think so, refurbished, yes, overhauled, yes, repaired, yes, New, not on your Nelly. Away from engines, when I (yes a wheni story) when I was on C-130 Fat Alberts, we actually found something that could have really spoilt a pilots day, would give anything a nasty nip, guessed what it was?, no, ok, a baby alligator/crocodile, dead, but was definitely alive when it somehow founds it’s way into the aircraft, one aircraft came back with a loose article entry in the aircraft log book, magazine and 20 rounds of ammunition!!!, how it got lost is anyone’s guess, but if that got somewhere it shouldn’t, that would definitely ruin your day. Something I never understood about American military tool control, it always seemed like you grabbed a tool bag/box and of you went to do the job, come back, hand in tool bag and sign off the job, no shadow boards or tally system in use, a recipe for disaster, could someone explain just how the United States system worked in reality and how effective tool control was achieved?, thanks. Thanks for sharing this interesting and informative film, watched very very many like this during my military service and were very very worth while videos/films. 👍😀🇬🇧🏴
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Wow, superb movie! I have done a zillion FOD walkdowns, but never knew it had been studied so carefully. Thanks.
Was aware of it when I was in USAF, and would pick up the occasional piece of FOD, did FOD walks on the ramp when I worked for SWA. I was always amazed at how much junk ended up on the ramp, even at an airport where jetways were used to board pax.
Holy crap! This really let you know how much the cost of things has gone up. $25,000 to overhaul a fighter engine! I couldn't overhaul my Bonanza engine for that!
@Whale Driver, Back when this movie was produced, a new car could be purchased for less than $2,000, a new motorcycle could be bought for $550, a new house located in a major city in Calif. could be bought for $7,500... Gas was about $ 0.25 /gallon... That was when a $1 bill actually could buy a lunch at a sit-down & eat kind of a place, and $0.35 could fill a lunchbox with a meal... Times have changed, and so has the cost of living....
I love these old movies. They're really dry but packed with info.
I was a brand new weapons mechanic assigned to my first duty station in 1961 when I arrived at a base operating the F-100. The first day on the job, a coworker took me to the coffee shop in the hangar on the way back from a visit to the flight line. On the wall was a large sign: PREVENT FOD. When I asked what FOD was, everybody snickered. When the base began the transition to the F-105 later in the year, we all thought that the height of the F-105 placed the intakes high enough to make FOD a lesser problem. We soon learned differently.
A fellow loader! Awesome!
*cough* bullshit *cough*
I’ve done more FOD walks than I can remember. Langley AFB, Virginia 76-80. Always picked up at least a few pieces of something. Great memories!
Love this stuff. Gives me more appreciation for what my Grandpa did when he worked on this beautiful aircraft.
FOD caused the only accident suffered by Concorde!
Awesome film!! My grandfather worked on F-105's at the Mobile Air Material Area back in the late 1950's to about the mid 60's
In my first year in a Navy A7 E squadron I learned a lot about FOD, how to prevent it and myself from becoming it. A7s have a huge, low intake that loves sucking things up. One of the things we used for tool control was specialized tool boxes. Each task had a list of tools needed for it, The worker signed out that set of tools. When opened each tool was fit into a Styrofoam cut out that made it very easy to spot a missing tool. All tools were marked permanently so if a missing tool was found it could be replaced and the person that lost it identified.
Which squadron were you in?
@NotaVampyre In the Israeli Air Force, each and every tool has a long serial code permenantly engraved on it. The code identifies the issuing tool room. The iron clad rule is, every tool that's issued out of a tool room is loged in a diary, including the tail Nr. of the inended jet. So if it's not returned, that's the first place to look.
One time we had a mising hammer that could not be located. Eventually the whole base was grounded. Turns out the hammer had slipped inbetween the double skin of a Phantoms underbelly pannel, right under the engine. The hammer had wedged itself tight, and required forcfully fishing it out. Can't imagine the amound of damage a hammer would do.
@@trespire There are no hammers in the military. They have Percussion-Oriented Object-Adjustment Instruments. That's why they cost 5 grand each.
@@MGower4465 In the US military maybe !! In the IDF we just had hammers ( not even gold plated !! )
@@trespire true! Israel had a common sense approach all most things military. My dad flew Phantoms and told a story about when Israel got its first F4s the pilots were being trained to always turn their heads to scan for hostiles on their six and the pilots asked why there werent rear view mirrors installed to let the pilots check behind without having to turn their heads. the American instructors explained that the process for modifying a fighter jet involved many steps and a ton of paperwork and would take forever .
Shortly afterward rearview mirrors from military trucks turned up bolted into F4 cockpits
NOTE THE RARE ENGINE CHANGE FOOTAGE INCLUDING THE TAIL INSTALLATION. Quality color maintenance footage isn't common but without maintenance aircraft are just static displays.
This also demonstrates how labor-intensive much of the work was (and some still is). The crepe paper (chosen because like walnut shells engines can digest it should it fail) tuft tool is elegantly simple too. Young maintainers (and engineers) should watch these for interesting insights on how their predecessors did their tasks.
The only FOD damage I saw working on F-105's, was the picture of the one that blew half of the engine apart, lost most of the tail feathers and landed at Korat with the biggest piece of FOD, a Russian air to air missile.
Holy hell. That pilot must have had a hell of a story to tell!
@@GamingHelp I don't know if he really knew that parts of the missile were stuck in his plane, until he landed. All I saw was the famous picture, the original, hung on the Debriefing wall. I'm sure he had a few beers after that flight.
@Ernest Sabatino Korat 71-72. 21 years old and wide eyed. Left on a medivac Silver Samlar, spent three weeks trying to remember my name, worked 137 days straight on the flight line. For some it wasn't long ago, we revisit it every night. When I got out of the hospital at Travis, my dad asked me how old I thought I was, I told him not 21. He agreed, more like 35. It's taken easily twenty to thirty years to put it behind me and still people call us "Baby Killers".
I was performing a max power ground run on a turbofan engine mounted on a test bed once. On this aircraft the engine intake was located around 15 feet above the ramp. The ground crewman’s inter-phone cord was actually lifted off the ground and sucked into the intake. Fortunately the damage was limited to the stators just behind the fan. After that we always secured the inter-phone cord with a weighted bag. When the humidity was high, one would often see a condensation vortex streaming off the ramp in into the intake.
Wow😳
I've always thought it was cool, watching the 737's, A320's run up to TOGA power on the ground during humid days, and seeing the vortex run up from the ground to the intake 👍
Wish they showed videos like this when I was in navy in flight deck during the 90s. We just had hear say from on job training and doing fod walk downs etc or our abh advancement book. Only video every saw about military training was the flight deck USS Forestall fire and what we learned from it. Otherwise didn’t have RUclips to watch these older military videos. Man so wish we did. Would made things so so much easier then having to read those advancement books or find someone above you to teach you what needed to advance if they even knew it rt..
These many fine technicians gave me an aircraft that put me at the top of my game. Crew Chief extraordinaire. Best dam'd aircraft in the Vietnam War theater, the "THUD" was the work horse that put all others to shame. Bar None! Aka Ken Thunder 354th TFS 355 TFW, Takhli Thailand 69 70.
lost count of how many FOD plods I've taken part in ... they can be quite relaxing and you sometimes find some cool / interesting stuff
On aircraft carriers, there is a FOD, or Foreign Object Debris walk down, to reduce the risk of damage to the engines. In some instances someone would place a known object beneath a tire or a pad eye. If no one found it, the walk down would happen again after some excoriation. In any case, FOD can mean different things. U.S.S. Midway (1977-‘79)
the amount of FOD found on deck is unreal after a morning flights collected in one bucket, where does it all come from
@@micstonemic696stone The FOD fairy.
I was in a VP squadron and we would walk the ramp in our area. Sometimes the CO would have a $20 placed in the tie down and who ever found is got to keep it. Patrol Squadron 23 1972-1975.
Did more than a few FOD walks, both in the USAF and working at SWA, good times.
The last achievement of jet Era for Republic Aviation
Somewhere on youtube is a soviet military pilot comparing their planes with those of the USA, He said the US built planes like fine watches, the Russians built flying tanks. We did FOD sweeps on the apron and taxiways, Their bases look deserted, abandoned, piles of junk. Their A/C designed (with low air intakes) take off roll is with air entry at the top of the fuselage. It then switches to scoop intake after gaining some altitude. These philosophies have historical roots. Which is better?, It depends on the combat. However, I think trying to have the F35 do the Warthogs job has more to do with money than practical experience. Hope I survive long enough to see robot wingmen and laser weapons on fighters. But not long enough to see ALL of this stuff thrown into a big war. Yes I am a vet, USAF and USN. Avionics and HF DF.
Another great film. You have my sub. Thanks, amigo!
This film was probably shown at NAS MILLINGTON up until shortly before I got there. I've never seen it before.
I just recently found your channel, and I must say that I thoroughly enjoy these videos.
Over the course of a twenty year career in the Air Force anytime FOD training or any ancillary training for that matter came due for me, I would release a groan so deep it would resonate far beyond the furthest spot on the ramp and well past the trim pad. Stumble across this FOD training film for the Thud and I have a smile on my face that all the rags and MEK in the world couldn’t wipe away
for the uninitiated: MEK is methyl ethyl ketone... an industrial solvent.
🤣
Looking back on it NOW, it's Good Times
Damn !!!
You went straight to MEK !
I remember hearing about guys using it to dry out poison ivy back in the day. “Long term effects be damned, I itch now”
Serving in the air force in the early 80s, we stood side by side the width of the flightless and walked the length of flight line and back! It was called the FOD walk!
I used to work at Grumman, had to do that now & again
My old scout troop swept our campsite before leaving three or four times that way. I imagine that's where it came from.
@johnhunter9646 we actually had to do it every morning at the start of first shift! Didn't take but 10 to 15 minutes! Our flight line for the AC-130s and MC-130s had probably 12 or 14 parking spots
They would never have had so much trouble if they’d used American Objects. You never hear of American Object Damage. Just foreign ones.
' Em dang furriners! Caint even spreak engrish. Sheesh!
fantastic job gentleman
Beautiful
I remember watching films like this when I was in the Air Cadets back in the late 1980s. Must have been the Royal Air Force version as the aircraft was the Panavia Tornado.The films looked absolutely ancient even then, but can't have been all that old with a Tornado! The quality of the film looked like the aircraft SHOULD have been a Hawker Hunter or maybe something even earlier!
Hello ,from Chile.👏👏👏
Great video! That poor rock blasted Thud... so much for Minimum Interval Takeoff.
FOD is something to be taken very seriously
Gas turbines cannot use inlet debris screens as there is none in the air and they block smooth inlet airflow through the engines, this was realised early and have become some what of an antique for these engines, maybe for ground testing
remember FOD was played a part of the Air France Concorde mishap, DC-10 engine part was proven for the tire explosion, thankyou for showing us F-105 Vintage video
A beautiful day for a FOD walk
Another Brilliant find PF!
You Beauty Mate.
Love that gun test...9:02.
Yes, important to keep the Thuds flying. Hope one day 1 can be restored. FOD on a F-100 will be quite different.
FOD (foreign objects & debris) is everyone’s responsibility.
I worked V1 Div. On USS Boxer as a crash crewman. We had a plane maintenance guy fod out a Harrier Rolls Royce Pegasus engine 1,000,000 because the dumb ass had his gloves sucked out of his front pocket! That plane sat in the hanger bay the whole cruise! Flight quarters flight quarters! All flight deck personnel muster on the bow for fod walk down. Check your person for anything in your pockets!
2:36. No torque specs needed just a good ugga tugga. 👍😁
Seeing this I just can’t understand how that airman survived being sucked into the intake - the video footage is horrifying to watch and readily available on YT if anyone hasn’t seen it.
It was only his headgear (helmet) that went through the engine... the technician slithered back out the front of the intake duct, and was promptly dismissed to go change his clothes.
Hold up, the F-105 had TWO nozzles? one on the J75 exhaust pipe and another 4 petal one mounted directly to the fuselage?
You was always doing fod walks on the flight line.
These were the old days, when quality control was in its infant state.
Quality control starts when design starts, when the the metal ore is dug out of the ground, when the people involved in the total production line are educated.
Quality control never stops.
Inspection is done during all parts of the build of all parts until the final product is assembled.
Procedures, maintaining control of all parts delivered to build and manufacturing must be in place.
All material, tools and supporting parts as simple as a cloth for cleaning oil, - everything, interring the build should be accounted for.
Log all parts interring and exiting the workplace.
Check against the product plan and find parts missing:
The parts that was not used as part of the assembly should be checked out after the end of this assembly process.
It is laborious, but it one of more, necessary process to make a safe product.
Everybody that have worked in the industry should know that.
Guess my line of business for the last 40 years.
You will probably guess wrong :-)
My regards to all the people who perform to security standards in their daily work and make our world a safer place to live in. It is not all about airplanes.
If you think quality control was in an infant state in 1960, you do not know your history. Look up the story of the Johansson gauge blocks, and the difference they made in WWII armaments production, for a start. Also, all of the foreign object control techniques you see in this film were well established during WWII aircraft production.
You are a medical doctor? Can't leave tools in a patient.
💥Foreign object damage like
37mm? 👀
F.O.D. stood for Foreign Object Debris when I was in the Air Force in the 70's and 80's. Damage due to F.O.D. was just called Damage.
Exactly
And that was why it is called a fod walk
And after the debris was sucked in the engine suffered from Foreign Object Digestion.
Does anyone remember Freddy Fod videos? It was 1980s or 1990s..
I can't imagine the F-105 had much FOD trouble.
The inlets are tiny and a mile above ground level due to the F-105's long legs.
The F-16 on the other hand....
Yes in Vietnam we need to keep our runways and operational area clean for our helicopters because the rotor wash could pick up foreign objects
When I was in A school the tool boxes are designed for instant inventory. every tool has a foam cutout or a way to instantly tell if something was missing.
Same here and it was the sane in the fleet when I got to my squadron in 75.
@@NotaVampyre111 which squadron were you in?
@@sidv4615 VA-94 Shrines from 75 to 79
"Shadow Boxing"
@@NotaVampyre111 were you there during frequent wind?
Where Freddy FOD at? It’s not a FOD movie without him.
Хороший самолёт, Хорошее видео
I wonder when this film was made, looks like early model F-105Ds, though the F-105B was the first "operational" Thud with the USAF.
They are D models, but I could not see enough detail to tell what series, or RE number as they were identified. I worked on the F-105D from October 1961 through the end of 1963, and every thing I see in this film looks to be of the period. F model deliveries began in 1963, and I do not see any of them. If I had to guess, I would say 1962 or 1963, and the footage was shot at Republic's home field at Farmington, Long Island.
10/32" bolt?????? I'm a machinist and have been since the 70's and I have never heard of a 10/32" bolt, however I have heard of a 5/16" bolt.
02:34 Where's the torque wrench?
He bolts in the engine by feel alone 😂 He don’t need no torque wrench
Is a 10/32 todays version of a 10mm??
I've never seen a 10/32. Would a 5/16 work?
I think they mean 10-32 …..a #10 bolt, 32 threads per inch…
@@waynebeasley8700 I'm betting you're right.
10-32 would equate roughly to a 4mm-1.00.
For reference, your typical 10mm head car trim bolt is 6mm.
Does someone knows what is the aim of the white circular scotches , spread on an impressive number of places on the fuselage ? Points to be checked ? Thanks
At what point in the video did you see those?
Did voiceover says "New engine ready to deliver HUNDREDS of hours of service"? Today's motors last for thousand of hours between overhauls.
Preparing and anticipating war is expensive, solving negative dominating human behaviors seem like a better solution, and cheaper.
Dude why do you freaks troll to make irrelevant comments? This video is about aircraft maintenance not evil war!
We still use those damn engine trailers in 2022
2:34 😂 "yeah torque spec for this bolt is just tight, just really crank her down"
Is there any F-105 in airworthy condition?
None are flying today.
no mention of the Queen of FOD damage-the F-89
Man I feel stupid, I never knew the 105 had a rotary cannon.
I was taught it stood for foreign object debris
"Then, after the final inspection, the engine is sealed, after which the engine is opened and again inspected a final time, then it is examined completely and sealed until until it is ready for final inspection just before the engine is first run, assuming, of course, that it passes final inspection."
I wonder if any seals were ever ingested?
You'd be surprised to know how many plastic caps are left on engines and then melted/ingested when the engine is run at the test stand.
@@BELCAN57 But is that after the final final inspection, or only after the final inspection?
@@franktatom1837 Run in prior to releasing to the Customer.
@@BELCAN57 Wait, is that the initial run-in, or the final initial run-in before the terminal run-in preceding the two preliminary final inspections?
Eight engined vacuum cleaner mechanics agree
FOD stands for "foreign object DEBRIS" - not "DAMAGE". Six years active duty in the USN and I never looked for foreign object DAMAGE. During a FOD walkdown you are looking for debris which could get sucked in a jet engine, as in the case of the Concord crash in Paris, for example.
They mentioned how air is,"...accelerated to tremendous velocities at the intake." as well as calling a #10-32 fastener a, "ten thirty seconds bolt." Not to mention calling FOD, "eff oh dee." 🤣
I caught those as well. I was actually trying to figure out what a ten thirty seconds bolt is equivalent to haha.
I bet a "ten twenty-fourths bolt" would do exactly the same amount of damage. Call it a hunch.
@@herbcraven7146 Nah, 10-32 is marginally heavier and stronger than 10-24, so it would do a bit more damage.
'Fifty million dollars a year'; thanks, Inflation! Seems a relative bargain now.
That’s now worth more than 400 Million bucks
I wasn’t in aircraft maintenance and for the longest time. I thought it was foreign objects and debris.
One other thing that I heard that you had to be wary of. Before running engines on the test pads in Thailand. Very large cobra’s.
The Thuds and Phantoms used to eat FODs and belch them out..usually MIGs..lol
I just fodded the commode in the men's bathroom here at work.
A 10/32nds bolt? For high dollar fighter planes a 5/16ths bolt isn't good enough? It has to be a 10/32nds? 😆😆😆
Could be 20/64ths. You never know!
"... could cause a $25K engine rebuild"... boy, that didn't age well.
$50 million a year. Wow.
Ha thought this was the title of an adult film at first lmao
What kind of porn are you watching......
10 million rivets flying in close formation
With foregin object they mean smoking tobacco workers , spit ,muddy shoes ,gloves -clothes (naked workers having sex ) I guess tools also and wine bottles -This makes me think WHO did they hire ...Hells angels ?
MISFITS. Hells Angels rejects, a interesting biker gang back in the day, around northern California in the mid '60s to early '80s. Wannabes. A lot of the ones that I saw went into the military when they failed socially. I'll just say they came out improved.
WAMPUM! -- Chief Crapper Snatcher
Birds.
"A 10/32 bolt" 🤷😆
You mean a 5/16" bolt?
Most likely a 10-32 (.190" OD, 32 threads per inch) bolt.
No, a size 10 machine screw, which has no numerical designation, and fine pitch of 32 threads per inch.
It is written as 10-32.
The normal course thread version would be 10-24.
Two sizes smaller diameter than 1/4”.
@@blackhawk7r221 they said bolt, not screw...
@@toadamineAir Force public relations specialist is no expert, but I get your point. Technically, if you can scrw a nut onto it, it is a bolt, as opposed to a wood screw. But in the industry, it is common vernacular to call any bolt smaller than 1/4” a machine screw. In fact oddly enough, we won’t just call it a machine screw, we will say it as, “hey, hand me two 8-24 machine screws”.
I hate it when some idiot says " a ten thirty seconds bolt"
Firstly, it's called a ten thirty two screw. The thirty two means thirty two threads per inch. It's a measurement of the pitch of the screw thread. The ten stands for the wire size of the diameter of the screw (#10 is ,I think, .198 diameter).
So saying ten thirty seconds like it's a measurement is wrong and
.198 inch is much to small to be a bolt or have a hex head.
Sorry you don't know your hardware. There is no such thing as a threaded fastener that is too small to have a hex head and to be called a bolt. A bolt is a fastener that is placed in a hole in material and secured by a fastener. Both bolt and fastener are usually threaded, but not always. A screw is a threaded fastener that screws directly into the material to be fastened. The threads may be cut into the material before the screw is installed, or the screw may cut its own threads as it is installed. Modern fasteners are innovative and may not fit exactly into old categories, but when I got my A&P license in 1965, aviation regulations specified the 10-32 fastener as the smallest to be used as a structural fastener in an airframe.
plus, almost all aircraft machine screws use 12-point heads, not hex.
I've seen tiny bolts that was way smaller than 10-32 screws. You should see some of the scale modeling sizes of scale bolts with hex heads. Buf there's a size difference between a ship and a boat and a screw and a bolt. Size matters. And a 10-32 is usually described as a bolt in assembly manuals. Most people can't visualize the inch scale and figure out that 1/2 is smaller than 9/16.
Familiarity breeds lackadaisical sloppiness. I don't even want to talk about the metric system.
Dude let his pipe get stuck in an engine?!
Hmmm, a 10/32 bolt eh? 1:30
Yep, I wondered about that one myself. I usually call them 5/16! Who wrote this script?
He's referring to a 10-32 machine screw. Size #10 - 32 TPI (3/16" diameter). The script was correct the narrator read it incorrectly.
The Thud
FOD WALK!!
I like t he old time accents i
Are u all cuz the meme on the page about walter?
Eff oh dee ?
Dude, it not eeF Oo Dee. It's just FOD. I saw safety wire destroy an engine.
I feel like you should make mirage 3000 with this one yeah i.hope you Retrieved JFK jet with Huoner because gods live a long long long long long time my friends and they do not forget especially someone seeking revenge like a true enemy you avenge is like avenging the Lord 🙏 for our Goddess yes we must find her and prevent death from taking her young life she needs to learn and be savoured please
240P ....nobody publishes in that
OK for starters
It's uploaded in 480p not 240
And second, the videos from more than 30 years ago were you thinking it's going to be in 4k?
@@Alucard-gt1zf Sucked you in hook line and sinker..... 30 years ya reckon chump, try 50+ years
Yea, we had these tapes on the large 1” tape format. Like a supersize VHS.
WHY would yoU be using pair of PLIERS on a jet air craft engine?
I definitely wouldn't insult my Harley that way, much less an engine worth ten hogs!
Lock wire
@@blackhawk7r221 Oh, duh. 🙄
meanwhile in Russia
Well, I guess you could have a hex head 10-32 ,but no one calls it a bolt.
I know, I'll shut up.
Brand New engine? Don’t think so, refurbished, yes, overhauled, yes, repaired, yes, New, not on your Nelly. Away from engines, when I (yes a wheni story) when I was on C-130 Fat Alberts, we actually found something that could have really spoilt a pilots day, would give anything a nasty nip, guessed what it was?, no, ok, a baby alligator/crocodile, dead, but was definitely alive when it somehow founds it’s way into the aircraft, one aircraft came back with a loose article entry in the aircraft log book, magazine and 20 rounds of ammunition!!!, how it got lost is anyone’s guess, but if that got somewhere it shouldn’t, that would definitely ruin your day. Something I never understood about American military tool control, it always seemed like you grabbed a tool bag/box and of you went to do the job, come back, hand in tool bag and sign off the job, no shadow boards or tally system in use, a recipe for disaster, could someone explain just how the United States system worked in reality and how effective tool control was achieved?, thanks.
Thanks for sharing this interesting and informative film, watched very very many like this during my military service and were very very worth while videos/films. 👍😀🇬🇧🏴
FOD IS A SOB
what you need to do the environment and cancers is work with safe people not drug addicts not alcoholics not the probably best to use somebody religious and make sure with there families history very important is fuel filters in the cars as well we will evolve with the trees is to feed the right stuff keeping in mind the very life that's it supports including the animals
Aw who cares 🤮
I love 💕 the F 105. It sent many a commie straight to hell. Too bad in the end our nation was overcome by them.