CAVE DIVER REACTS TO SCUBA DIVING ACCIDENT INTERVENTION

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  • Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
  • Reacting to a video that every new diver should watch to learn about how dangerous diving beyond your limits can be!
    Original Video: • Scuba Diving Accident ...

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  • @aaronrocs
    @aaronrocs 3 года назад +311

    I want to see the tongue lashing he gave them at the surface. I wonder if he was able to impress upon them how dire their situation was.

    • @PoochieCollins
      @PoochieCollins 2 года назад +25

      My money says he went New Yorker on their asses.

    • @Mulletmans
      @Mulletmans 2 года назад +2

      Yeah I no that what I waiting to see.

    • @Samsun55
      @Samsun55 2 года назад

      @@tonyvelasquez6776 the Dive Master is a fraud for sure...

    • @justinmartin4662
      @justinmartin4662 2 года назад +4

      I’m guessing it wasn’t needed considering they were out of air by the time they actually got back on the boat.

    • @justinmartin4662
      @justinmartin4662 2 года назад +3

      But I totally agree and thought that it was kinda silly to leave that part out when it could have been the most entertaining.

  • @Equinoxxa
    @Equinoxxa 3 года назад +265

    I can't dive. In fact, I can barely even swim. But holy hell this channel is so INTERESTING. I can't stop watching!

    • @Arcticnick
      @Arcticnick 3 года назад +8

      These guys certainly know their stuff.

    • @Arcticnick
      @Arcticnick 3 года назад +1

      I notice you didn't 'advertise' your max depth.

    • @kaizen5023
      @kaizen5023 2 года назад +3

      @dolly stardust, you don't need to be a great swimmer on top of the water to enjoy scuba diving! Scuba diving is safe when you stick with your instructor/guide and/or experienced buddy, and don't go past your limits/experience level. It's probably safer than riding in a car! :)

    • @hjc4604
      @hjc4604 2 года назад +1

      So take some lessons and PRACTICE! Though I had lessons several times and was even "Certified" I never felt really confident until I got a swimming instruction book and spent time in the pool learning and perfecting my techniques. I even got to the point where I could swim the length of an Olympic size pool and back while clasping my hands behind my back and my legs together as if they were tied. That was after I had taken PADI Advanced Open Water Diving Class. One of the points they stressed at my dive school was that most people drown because they panic. Knowing what might go wrong helps you avoid panicking and reason your way out of a situation. You can do whatever you put your mind to. So get whatever training you need and practice! At any rate, SCUBA diving doesn't necessarily require you to be a fantastic swimmer as you are wearing a mask, snorkel, fins, and a tank of air on your back. Good luck!

    • @FlexGC
      @FlexGC 2 года назад

      Don't worry Dolly. I'll help you dive. Just tie this rope attached to a couple of weights to your ankle.

  • @EmilyInsaneXx
    @EmilyInsaneXx 2 года назад +150

    I don’t scuba dive, but I do skydive. It’s drilled into your head to always always always be altitude aware. So seeing these guys not even being aware of their depth is terrifying. In skydiving, you’re not even allowed to have a camera/ GoPro until you have 200 jumps, because the more things you add, the more complicated and less focused you become. Good thing they had someone looking out for them. With skydiving, you have to look out for yourself, because you’re the only one who can save you. I’m sure the same thing can be said for scuba diving. Hopefully they learned from this experience.

    • @csih2119
      @csih2119 2 года назад +5

      The problem is not that you can't safe someone but that depending on the circumstances, there is a good chance you both end up in a bad situation

    • @onearmedwolf6512
      @onearmedwolf6512 Год назад +1

      Remknds me.of the professional skydiver(forget his name) who would film his jumps. One day he did multiple jumps and on the last jump he grabbed his camera but apparently forgot his parachute. Needless to say it was a bad time to be distracted

    • @autopartsmonkey7992
      @autopartsmonkey7992 Год назад +1

      ​@One armed Wolf he did it twice..first time he was saved by another parachuter ,,second time he just splatted

    • @KahlessTheUnforgettable
      @KahlessTheUnforgettable Год назад +3

      I don’t scuba dive or sky dive; but I do muff dive as I’m a male performer in erotic films. And although it’s vastly different it’s much the same. You’ve got to be aware of your co-stars health status no matter what the director says. Although a lot more STIs are treatable nowadays, a positive status can hurt your bottom line or end your career altogether. You’ve also got to know well in advance if they have an piercings or allergies to any materials and their body tolerances. And I’m not even going over the legal aspects of my career as they are many and just as fraught. I guess as with any “high risk” job of hobby; the more educated, informed and prepared you are; the less opportunity there is for disaster to strike. I guess in all three crafts you want to ‘come’ out alive and the same way you went in. In that respect preparation is the key 💦

    • @autopartsmonkey7992
      @autopartsmonkey7992 11 месяцев назад

      It's why you don't try more then ONE new thing each time. Have some new piece of gear, don't also try out new place you never been.

  • @bgee461
    @bgee461 3 года назад +167

    The ending did say that he is a certified rescue diver, and it definitely shows. 👍👍 kids got lucky he was there

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +51

      Absolutely they got extremely lucky.

    • @subblonde3101
      @subblonde3101 2 года назад +15

      it was a mom and a kid.

    • @greynovaIst
      @greynovaIst 2 года назад +6

      Ok good! Because an advanced diver would almost never do that! But he definitely earned his cert.

    • @Kratos-eg7ez
      @Kratos-eg7ez 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@subblonde3101 makes it even worse in my opinion, literally gonna kill yourself and your son to take some pics 🤦 it's almost like the mom didn't take diving seriously n just thought she'd be a tourist n do whatever she wants. Like you forget to check not only your air, but your kids?! That 12 year old ain't gonna pay attention. I wouldn't even dive with a 12 year old in the first place unless it was a pool or super shallow for a very short time. Just ridiculous, hopefully that scared them enough to start taking things seriously or even quit all together. Just so so crazy, can't believe the dive master just left them there either. Like your just gonna leave everyone behind with no way to even know if they're coming? Doesn't deserve that position tbh

  • @rosekay5031
    @rosekay5031 3 года назад +169

    I hope the actual dive instructor for the group also got a massive dressing down from this diver.

    • @PoochieCollins
      @PoochieCollins 2 года назад +10

      Wait, that wasn't the dive instructor?! I watched this video over two days, missed that. Jesus.

    • @corneliakobilke4638
      @corneliakobilke4638 2 года назад +25

      @@PoochieCollins apparently their instructror just went over a wall thinking they were following him

    • @PoochieCollins
      @PoochieCollins 2 года назад +40

      @@corneliakobilke4638 : I rewatched just the parts of the original video; the instructor is said to go over to the other side (out of site), but had no hard answer why. If it wasn't an emergency, that instructor needs a major correction, b/c that almost got two newbies killed.

    • @kaprkapr
      @kaprkapr 2 года назад +19

      Yeah, that wasn’t even the dive instructor! A real hero. The dive instructor went back up the wall.

    • @999a0s
      @999a0s 2 года назад +17

      yeah i don't know why there's relatively little criticism on the instructor, who literally took a hike while two of his students were having a picnic, narced, at -50m. i mean, you could see at a glance that they were far too deep. why wouldn't you account for all your students before heading up and over? i mean...???????????????

  • @Musiknird
    @Musiknird 3 года назад +79

    There a few things here that might have prevented the whole situation. When I am the dive master I always breif the customers about the dive plan, currents and how we will perform the dive. I always tell group to stay together, be close to me and check their air often. I also give them instructions that they can be above me, behind me or next to me but never below me or in front of me. Also I know divers with low experience or a few dives I MUST tap them for air continuously because they haven't implemented it yet into their dive routine. Always have the group facing each other during decend and ascend and make sure they stay close to their buddy. And make them do the buddy check every singel time! Be extremely clear about the rules during the dive. I will not hasitate to abort the dive if they won't do as I say which usually not a problem but now and then you have "tough guys" that are know it all even if they just came out of the OW-course. The dive master seemed distracted or maybe was newly certified but he/she didn't do a good job in my opinion. This is why I my self never recommend to go from zero to hero. Make sure to get a decent amount of dives under your bcd before even entering the dmt. Make sure you are comfortable in the water to begin with. Don't go through the fast track dmt in only 2 weeks, go for a internship were your dmt will be at least 3-4 months. I did the internship and I'm so greatful for that. It was hard but at the same time you came close to the instructors that tought you so much valuable stuff. I spent at least 12 hours at the dive centre 6 days a week mixed with diving or being in the pool assisting. I learned how to fix regs, change o-rings, service bcd's, fill nitrox, analyse gases, troubleshooting, bank out weigts, planning for dives, go through equipment and so much more, that made me a confident dive master that knew I would be able to handle and avoid crisis. I always had instructors close to me that I could ask for help if there were something I didn't grasp, needed help or needed advice. That was invaluable!

    • @xvor_tex8577
      @xvor_tex8577 2 года назад +2

      I was trying to wipe my screen because of your profile picture 🤣

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 2 года назад +2

      dmt = dive master training?

    • @Musiknird
      @Musiknird 2 года назад +1

      @@thewhitefalcon8539 correct! :)

    • @thewhitefalcon8539
      @thewhitefalcon8539 2 года назад +1

      you also could've been handing out dimethyltryptamine to your interns :P (hope I got that name right)

    • @Musiknird
      @Musiknird 2 года назад

      @@thewhitefalcon8539 hehe or ayahuasca as it's also called. Could be some interesting dives. ;)

  • @BitwiseMobile
    @BitwiseMobile 2 года назад +11

    I've mentioned it before, but there is a LOT of correlation between diving and flying. In the example with the wall changing that's a great demonstration of vertigo and how our brains and body can often trick us. In flying the typical response is to bank and raise the nose which is a recipe for a disaster - a high AOA with wings in a banked position usually means a spin. Anyway, when you learn IFR which means you can fly when you can't see outside - like flying through clouds for example - you have to train yourself to trust your instruments and don't listen to your body. It's a dirty liar and will get you killed if you give in to that instinct. When you said "trust your instruments" it reminded me of that. Incidentally VFR into IFR is a #1 killer of general aviation pilots.

  • @mattozx6rr
    @mattozx6rr 2 года назад +20

    As a diver I absolutely love this channel. I am certified through IANTD to the rescue diver level. I can honestly say, when or if you choose to take a class shop around. Find an instructor that is advanced cave certified with a ton of time in caves. They are the purveyors of great knowledge which they share openly. They are also the bane of those looking for an easy cert. These guys actually care more for your survival than the "Oh wow" experience. Get certified, stay within your cert. limits and live to dive another day. I have not been in the water for 6 years. I would not even dream of diving at this point without a refresher and full equipment inspection performed by a qualified gear technician(more likely to rent gear). Sad part is I still know more than a basic cert. diver.

    • @kylesteelman6010
      @kylesteelman6010 Год назад

      I appreciate the advice. After watching video after video I have a great interest in get my rec cert and getting in the water for the first time. But after watching everything very concerned to find the proper match for an instructor. In SoCal btw if anyone has any good recommendations for a instructor in SoCal.

  • @Peace-tk3gr
    @Peace-tk3gr 2 года назад +19

    I'm claustrophobic and did an intro to scuba diving course. The dive took place at at Aliwal Shoal in South Africa. I couldn't believe how much I enjoyed the dive. The dive instructor said I did very well. You won't know unless you try. Ps. Have read books about cave diving but could never do it. Knowing your limits in any sport is very important. Love your show 👌

  • @emilyc7369
    @emilyc7369 3 года назад +26

    The fact that the music used in the video is “Hurt” by Johnny Cash signals impending doom.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +9

      Yep

    • @jvig1964
      @jvig1964 2 года назад

      Original artist is Nine Inch Nails

    • @emilyc7369
      @emilyc7369 2 года назад

      Yes, I know. I was a fan of NIN long before Cash covered Hurt.

  • @marilucarvallo719
    @marilucarvallo719 2 года назад +16

    This is the kind of diver we would love to have in any dive.

  • @seeker7679
    @seeker7679 3 года назад +31

    Holy cow! It's my first time seeing this and the five minutes you spent talking between the 400psi shot and the next shot had me stressed out! lol These guys were sooo lucky. Great job by the other diver. Respect.

  • @kenfarnell802
    @kenfarnell802 Год назад +8

    I have been enjoying your videos for about a year now and quite enjoy them. I just wanted to throw out this bit of info about feeling the difference of depth. I became advanced open water certified in February of 2022. As a bit of info about me is that I have been in pain for the last 35 years. The moment I enter the water the pain levels are reduced. I found that once I'm about 65' down there is almost 0 pain. The most relief I've ever had.

  • @lilydewinters4729
    @lilydewinters4729 Год назад +4

    This could have gone seriously wrong. Thankfully this rescue diver took the initiative to mentor and look after these kids until they got to the surface.

  • @calvingillen9682
    @calvingillen9682 3 года назад +87

    If you go underwater And forget to pay attention to your air supply that says something about you

    • @talaverajr391
      @talaverajr391 3 года назад +3

      That you are going blind?

    • @PoochieCollins
      @PoochieCollins 2 года назад +4

      I'd guess most of it is not paying attention to their depth, and assuming they were going through air much slower than they really were.

    • @talaverajr391
      @talaverajr391 2 года назад +1

      @@PoochieCollins I was joking.

    • @PoochieCollins
      @PoochieCollins 2 года назад +1

      @@talaverajr391 : I didn't @ you, was replying to OP.

    • @ChristelVinot
      @ChristelVinot 2 года назад

      What does it say?

  • @willcrews9230
    @willcrews9230 3 года назад +59

    No big interest in diving, but you’re videos are quite interesting. For sure should keep it up! Very high quality and you are very good at speaking/narrating.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +7

      Thank you Will!

  • @Jeff_11B
    @Jeff_11B 9 месяцев назад +1

    Watching SCUBA footage featuring Johnny Cash singing a NIN song as I sit baked next to my new puppy, burgers in our bellies... I can only handle so much awesomeness. Going thru the whole Diver Reacts playlist, starting from the beginning. It's gonna be a good day, Tater

  • @AthamAldecua
    @AthamAldecua 3 года назад +26

    I'm a dry caver, and cave diving is what got me interested into caving. Awesome channel!

  • @elizabethbottroff1218
    @elizabethbottroff1218 Год назад +1

    I agree about the wall dives. My college's dive team was heading out for one on an international port visit. I opted to only snorkel on the surface. My free diving got me down to about 20+' anyway. That trip was amazing; and the divers below had a great time.
    The same team almost lost two on a wall dive on a different trip. Two had gone too deep. Fortunately, they realized it; but they had to come back up too fast. Both sent to hospital with bends. Barely made it in time. It was too close. They both nearly died. Only surface rescue procedures gave them a chance. One recovered with minor injuries. The other lost the use of his legs for the rest of his life.
    To emphasize the danger of wall dives:
    My uncle was assisting his instructor off California in the '60s & '70s. The wall has no bottom. Checking your depth and air is drilled into you. But they lost two. One went too deep, and the buddy broke additional rules and tried to rescue. It was still haunting my uncle decades later.

  • @thenerdymic7607
    @thenerdymic7607 3 года назад +6

    I know I'm late to the party but I want to say this... I'm not a diver so I won't comment on the dive. I'm starting to do more and more podcasting; in addition, I started to listen to various subjects. I want to commend you on your presentation. You didn't belittle the dive master that left them and you didn't talk down or poorly about the kids. I've noticed this type of pattern in your content and I love it. You've conducted your podcast well and turned their near misfortune into a learning tool for everyone. You've set a great standard for others. Thank you for taking the time to do this. I've become a bit of a fan now. Looking forward to binge watch while I eat dinner tonight. :)

  • @7005r
    @7005r 13 дней назад

    Outstanding breakdown Gus. I’m an open water diver and I learn so much from your videos and they make me a better diver. Thank you.

  • @hpeterson10579
    @hpeterson10579 2 года назад +3

    This is crazy! This man saved their life… he needs an award!

  • @MikeHeijmans
    @MikeHeijmans 2 года назад +6

    This exact thing happened to me in the Bahamas 17 years ago! I was paired up with another single diver on the boat and he went over the edge and I had to drag the guy back up from around 135. Then he ran out of air.. didn't signal.. he just stopped making bubbles and I noticed and just gave him my octo.. when we got on the surface he said "that was a pretty good dive, I gotta work on not running out of air on every dive" ... Wow. I was done for the day. Completely oblivious to how near death he was. These people are among us...

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  2 года назад +3

      That’s just bananas!

    • @pandapower5902
      @pandapower5902 2 года назад +1

      omfg... what an absolute moron!! i wonder if thats what kind of people the two in the video are like (i know it was a father and son), if they were just used to running out of air and being rescued or something

  • @kahleeb624
    @kahleeb624 2 года назад +8

    I love that he specified the whole pressure doesnt feel much different cause up to certain extremes even though pressure is exponential, anything from surface to about 300ft don't feel different especially when your equalizing thr whole time below that it definitely does start to bring effects even if you may not feel it so it is incredibly easy to find yourself way deeper than you think cause you didn't feel a change. Its pretty nuts.

    • @grkvlt
      @grkvlt 2 года назад

      isn't water pressure linear?

  • @Andrew_Young
    @Andrew_Young 3 года назад +8

    This is my absolute favorite video of yours! So interesting to have your perspective and a happy ending to boot!

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for watching!

  • @desiree9771
    @desiree9771 2 года назад +3

    “Tequila level”🤣. Love the videos. Mr. B brought me here and I’m loving it!

  • @sandygrogg1203
    @sandygrogg1203 Год назад

    I’m a nearly 79yo grandmother.. I knit, crochet, and quilt for un… Bu.. This channel,is great. I’ve enjoyed learning abou a world I hardly knew existed.. And… Gus and Woody are great…

  • @nicoladecastro2297
    @nicoladecastro2297 3 года назад +20

    I am waiting for this! Thank you so much for going extra mile discussing what's wrong with this video and giving extra tips. I am curious in scuba diving for a while and stumbled on your video about the Jacob's well and I think this is brilliant! So informative and professional. Can you do fatal mistakes doing while you dive? Thank you so much for your videos!

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +5

      Is there a video out there that you would like for me to review? Or just provide my own list of fatal mistakes?

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +4

      Also, thanks for watching. 🙂

  • @timgosling6189
    @timgosling6189 3 года назад +13

    The math is much easier in Bar and metres! Absolutely relaxed, in warm water in a shortie, I can get to 10 litres/min SAC, which is about the same as you quote. 400 psi is 27 Bar. For me, with an ali 80, in what will shortly be a stressful situation I'd plan on 10 Bar per minute at that depth, so 2 1/2 minutes bottom time to empty. If I started up immediately, I'd reckon on 5 minutes of gas. Time to ascend from 140 feet? Well at the PADI maximum rate (which looks like what they did) that's 2 1/2 minutes, or at the rate my computer will be just about happy with, 5 minutes. As you say, from 140+ ft they would have a compulsory safety stop. Well that ain't happening so their risk of getting bent was down to how broad the edges of the statistical model go. That rescue trained diver was awesome!
    Lessons for me would number one be for the DM to remember that leading a resort dive is like herding cats, except these cats can die if they screw up.
    Number two: cameras are the easiest things to get that old task focus going and make you lose all situational awaeness, especially when inexperienced.
    Number three, as you say, get a computer that will help you avoid the natural human factors failings. I use Suunto Steel and Core, which I see you're familiar with, and they both have alarms for depth and because they are air integrated they also have warnings for low gas and low gas time remaining. That means you really have to work at it to ignore a dangerous situation emerging.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for the comment.

  • @midasthegold5050
    @midasthegold5050 3 года назад +12

    Great video! Love the quality you bring. You should do a gear overview of what you use.

  • @Strype13
    @Strype13 3 года назад +32

    Do these clowns even realize how close they came to dying? Did they learn anything at all from this lesson? Are they even still with us, or did they take this kind of recklessness to another endeavor and capture a few Darwin Awards?

    • @tommydevine9993
      @tommydevine9993 2 года назад +2

      I can't even imagine what would be going through my head if I was at 150ft on air with 400psi left in the cylinder... Then again, there's no situation where I'd be at 150ft on air in the first place, or with under 500psi left, let alone both at the same time... 🤦‍♂️
      These people have no business being underwater with this level of recklessness and cluelessness. They could've caused this rescue guy to get bent or suffer a barotrauma in his attempt to save their lives and fly up to the surface with them...

    • @pandapower5902
      @pandapower5902 2 года назад +1

      @@tommydevine9993 it was a father and son too! Just la di da taking photos. If the mom found out, man, I bet she would be angry if she had any sense about what happened

  • @Shawaeon
    @Shawaeon 3 года назад +8

    What an absolute hero.

  • @helenhenliwomack8262
    @helenhenliwomack8262 2 года назад +2

    I love Dive talk because it calms ANY anxious thoughts that invade my mind during my Open Water Certification [ on the path to Master Diver/ I want to learn technical Diving for Aquarium matanance (thanks for the insight to the coolest job in the world Woody & gang!) ] Dive Talk gives me calm knowledge & helps me understand Diving is Safe. great video thanks guys

  • @larry2148
    @larry2148 3 года назад +36

    They're probably extremely narced totally out of it.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +10

      Yep agree

    • @Julia_BH
      @Julia_BH 2 года назад +8

      Was looking for this comment. I’m guessing they were narced by the time he said for the first time that the 2 divers were too far down. It’s crazy how much I’ve learned just by watching this channel.

    • @kaizen5023
      @kaizen5023 2 года назад +3

      Maybe, maybe not. People do stupid stuff while diving with cameras.

    • @Julia_BH
      @Julia_BH 2 года назад +8

      @@kaizen5023 that is true but narcosis is unavoidable breathing on regular air at those depths! Gus & Woody said it in one of their videos, not sure which one though haha.

  • @stevenallen512
    @stevenallen512 3 года назад +2

    I stumbled across your channel by accident the other day and I have to say I've been loving the content! Talking about these things (safety especially) in this way really resonates with me. I am not a diver (have always WANTED to dive but not really in the best place to get a start; have been interested in diving since I was a kid), I work in the entertainment industry (yeah I've been home more than a year now) and one of my focuses has become safety. You wouldn't believe how many workers, planners and company owners don't follow good best practices for safety.
    But wow I'd really like to see more from the video you were watching, what was the leader thinking, why not checking on those two, do they realise how close they came to death? etc...
    Cheers

  • @niklashall5969
    @niklashall5969 3 года назад +7

    Watching this reaaaaallly wants me to get back into diving! Thanks for the great content!!!

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +5

      Thank you for watching! Time to get back underwater!!!

    • @robertharrison4387
      @robertharrison4387 3 года назад +1

      Do it bro 🤙🏼

  • @eternialogic
    @eternialogic 2 года назад +9

    I guess most new divers don't realize that depth exponentially decreases your air due to compression losses.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  2 года назад +4

      That’s correct and we have lots of non divers also so we want them to understand this as well. We have a video coming out soon that helps explain these basic principles so we don’t have to stop the videos as much to explain these concepts.

    • @cbob1488
      @cbob1488 Год назад

      @@DIVETALK You are assuming Woody will be able to control himself and not stop to comment haha. But I don’t think anyone minds; it always prompts hilarious facial expressions from you and continues to hammer home all of the invaluable information that you both have, or humility to inquire from the dive community. You guys clearly have a wealth of knowledge combined with the respect and humility necessary to undertake the feats that you both do and love. I’m sure you have both not only brought more attention to the world of all diving, but imbued participants with more knowledge about diving and safety that has and will continue to make people undertake their own dives more safely and save lives in the process. Keep the knowledge rippling through the world like water after a bubble breaches the surface of the water as a diver is coming safely back to the surface due to the work you guys and all the greats that mentored you have done.

  • @VA-ie4qq
    @VA-ie4qq 2 года назад +1

    Finally an awesome explanation of what happened and the actual risks involved for those divers exposed at those depths/oxygen levels

  • @Dorff_Meister
    @Dorff_Meister 3 года назад +16

    OMG. I'd never dive with any of these people again.

  • @0240lym
    @0240lym 2 года назад

    Loved this video. I learned so much from ya'lls channel. Thank u soo much.

  • @maxtorque2277
    @maxtorque2277 3 года назад +12

    One important thing to note is that the rate of maximum ascent should really be depth dependant! This is because of the way doubling works with increasing depth
    At the surface 1 bar absolute
    At 10 m / 33feet = 2 bar (doubled pressure)
    At 30m / 99 feet = 4 bar (doubled again)
    At 70m / 230 feet = 8 bar (doubeld again)
    So the doubling depth interval is is
    10m (surface to 10m)
    20 (10m to 30m)
    40 (20m to 40 m)
    Therefore if you are low on air at significant depth, you CAN ascend at a very quick rate initially, and this will also minimise your total air consumption, because the sooner you get shallower,the less air each breath takes from your cylinder, ie every minute at 30m/100 feet is the same useage as 2min at 10m/33feet.
    So in these cases, it's best to quickly make for about 15m / 45 feet (2.5 bar abs) pretty much at the rate your bubbles rise (which is extremely fast, something like 33m/100 feet per minute), then re-assess your air situation, and include your whole group because at this point as buddy air sharing is likely to be a less stressful option if some divers present still have a decent air reserve remaining.
    At 15m, you are realistically within 1 min of the surface (without stops) so are at a depth where you can stop to decompress, but where a "bolt" to the surface is much less of an issue should the worst happen. Then, assuming you know you have a boat or similar rescue/pickup waiting (rather than a 10 min swim through surf to the shore for example!), you may as well aim to get to the surface pretty much at zero psi, remembering that an oral inflate of your bcd might be required !
    What you are doing in this scenario is pushing your nitrogen loaded tissues into their super critical zone, where the disolved pressure of nitrogen in those tissues is suddenly significantly higher than the ambient water pressure. This is both good and bad. it's good, because it means your inert off-gassing is faster, it's bad because the size of the inert bubbles coming out of super saturation will be larger, and large bubbles can lead to DCI. However, running out of air means drowing is definite, whereas DCI is only possible and for most people the recreational dive tables are really pretty conservative, so the margin here is likely to be large.

  • @luckyotter623
    @luckyotter623 2 года назад +1

    I've never scuba dived, and never will, but I love watching scuba diving videos, and your critiques about scuba diving videos, lol. Keep 'em coming.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  2 года назад +1

      Awesome, thank you!

  • @horscategorie
    @horscategorie 3 года назад +16

    Damn - This reminds me of being in a fire and having my SCBA ring. We used to do this all of the time, once your bell rings, you exit. Now we try to maintain a much larger reserve of air in case a complication occurs. I remember the fatal fire of Lt. Flynn who fell through a floor - the entire rescue team was low on air as they were bringing him out of the basement. He, unfortunately, died as a result of his injuries. Diving is a risky business - as risky as fighting fire. That father/son need to thank their lucky stars.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +5

      Mike, well said and we agree.

    • @fireonice143
      @fireonice143 2 года назад +3

      @MikeGoyette…Yes I agree, it’s definitely as (if not more) risky. Not recommended, ..but cannot deny that we sometimes worked past the beginning of an low air alarm bell (500psi) in my 32+years (ret.) of firefighting. But I always kept an eye on my psi at all times and where the exit was (and I was close to it)…..… and not in the middle of an unfamiliar building with less than 1/2 of my air supply left. There’s no room for taking that kind of risk (except for a fellow bro/sis in a mayday situation). Firefighting & Scuba diving couldn’t be more related to each other, imho. I’m new to diving and looking forward to my 1st dive trip on 11/26 to Cozumel. Currently acquiring new gear and leaning toward the Peregrine dc ($495) for my 1st dc. Love the vibe alert since when you hear an alarm, it may not be yours amongst a group of divers, but w/a vibe …you know! ..though wish it had a compass & AI! Kudo’s & respect for the rescue diver. As always, safety 1st‼️

    • @elizabethbottroff1218
      @elizabethbottroff1218 Год назад

      I used to be an engineer aboard ships. We were required to go through firefighting training. Fire is the worst enemy for us.
      My mom had been a scuba diver when I was a kid. I knew all of the tricks for conserving my air; and I used them throughout the day.
      Unfortunately, the instructors deliberately mixed our tanks up at the lunch break. Yep. The flake that had been goofing off all day was the source of my tank. It's been nearly three decades; and I can still hear that alarm bell. I hadn't even gotten 10 feet into the drill building. I didn't even have time for normal egress. I had to come back to the entrance point, a 2nd story window at the top of a bad ladder that I had just climbed.
      It's why, whenever I catch a news broadcast, or even just a tv show or movie...the sound of those alarm bells are instantly recognizable to me; and they make me sick to my stomach. I have a great respect for the firefighters that are trying to follow those alarms to help their trapped brother/sister.

  • @stephenlamley541
    @stephenlamley541 3 года назад +6

    I love this song, as a recovering addict it hits hard at times, great song though still

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +2

      Thanks Stephen. Glad you are with us!

    • @Narusasu98
      @Narusasu98 2 года назад +1

      Hang in there, you're very brave

    • @stephenlamley541
      @stephenlamley541 2 года назад +1

      @@Narusasu98 thank you, im in a good place now, I really am im not brave stupid maybe or better put, have made some very stupid decisions, I can't go back. All that matters now is what's in front of me have been through the mill, so to speak. Two overdoses, induced coma a stroke and brain bleed the stroke had nothing to do with drugs at all, I've got a blood disorder which thankfully is under control. Thank you for the kind words.

  • @GingerNinja1
    @GingerNinja1 10 месяцев назад +2

    So all three divers avoided getting the bends too? That's insane. I still can't believe their dive master left them like that! He should've been fired!!

  • @michaellaracuenti9896
    @michaellaracuenti9896 2 года назад

    Great channel guys you have me addicted, you darned guys are giving me the fever to get back into diving again

  • @robertcapriotti1154
    @robertcapriotti1154 2 года назад

    I don’t dive at all but I find the videos very informative and entertaining.Love the channel.keep finding videos to comment on.

  • @melissadinapoli7253
    @melissadinapoli7253 2 года назад

    Very relieved to see that the quick thinking of the instructor ensured a favorable outcome.

  • @wordswritteninred7171
    @wordswritteninred7171 2 года назад +2

    That computer, with vibration, is brilliant! Anyone, can have an issue, at any time. The vibration, could possibly help get others attention as well!
    I LOVE the ocean. But cannot dive because of claustrophobia. Been watching your videos non stop. Thank you!!!

  • @ArturMakroMaxi
    @ArturMakroMaxi 3 года назад +6

    Love the content, it is refreshing to watch someone who knows Thiers stuff. One thing tho. Recommended speed of ascent is 30 Feat ( 10 m) per minut, but with emergency you can go up to 18 m per minut so like 60 f/m, which is still safe with recreational diving and no deco time.

  • @amateurastronomer9463
    @amateurastronomer9463 3 года назад +11

    What's annoying for me is that most non divers just assume that all you have do is just strap a cylinder or 2 and away you go. There's a reason why we always made a dive plan. Didn't matter how deep or shallow. My 3 golden rules:
    1. Plan The dive, dive the plan
    2. Never dive alone
    3. Always wait 24 hrs after diving if you have to fly.
    Personally I wait 48 hrs, and use that extra day to pack and just explore the city you happen to be in or just relax by the hotel pool. Other divers might have a different 3rd rule but I don't know too many divers who don't follow the first 2. And total props to the diver that rescued them.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +2

      Love it! Thank you for sharing your best practices.

  • @michaeldorsey5724
    @michaeldorsey5724 2 года назад

    Love your videos especially with Woody keep the videos coming Gus and God bless.

  • @hamsicle
    @hamsicle Год назад

    What a scary video. Those two were so lucky, they have no idea. The rescue dude was a total boss. Talk about having a guardian angel.

  • @jawnboatfishn1136
    @jawnboatfishn1136 3 года назад +6

    Even in 2008, there's no way you would catch me on a deep dive without a computer. I'm sure they had no clue what their dive profile was!

  • @andrewpetroski3687
    @andrewpetroski3687 3 года назад +1

    Love the video! God bless that man! Though, I'm shocked you haven't been slapped with a copyright strike yet. :D Keep up the good work guys. You have inspired me to finally take my into classes. They start July 31.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +3

      We stop and react often to the videos so that we don’t get strikes with that.

  • @ilyafilru
    @ilyafilru 3 года назад +3

    I'm a skydiving instructor and I've had students who forget to look at the altimeter.

    • @julians.2597
      @julians.2597 2 года назад

      😂😂 That's both too funny and sad

  • @schultz2670
    @schultz2670 2 года назад +2

    I'm often diving with less experienced divers and when, I'm always sneak peaking on their air gauge between the "official" air checks. Never trust anyone unless you are 110% sure that they can handle themself. Like you say it's so often that less experienced divers forget to look at their air for longer periods just like they often forget the fact that the air consumption goes up exponentially the further down one goes. Exceptionally good video! should be used by diving schools as education.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  2 года назад

      Thanks for sharing your best practices!

    • @schultz2670
      @schultz2670 2 года назад

      @@DIVETALK Likewise!

  • @staycoolwithrob
    @staycoolwithrob Год назад

    Thanks for explaining everything 🙂

  • @chuckguerin8141
    @chuckguerin8141 3 года назад +3

    I just snorkel with fins. It is amazing. I can see how people would want to go farther. I love feeding fish grasshoppers by hand and watching my buddys fish, and seeing big fish swim right by their baits. Great video on the danger. Thats why I snorkel. haha. Thanks!

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +1

      Chuck, thanks for the comment.

  • @jimlundborg
    @jimlundborg 2 года назад +2

    Dang, looking back on my first dive makes me shake my head. I'm not complaining but I see how bad things could have gone. First dive after my PADI open water certification was 92 feel on the back wall of Molokini Crater. The depth there was 300'. The dive shop even sent me up by myself for the safety stop and they knew it was my first dive. Again, I had no problems and it was an incredible dive but...

  • @Table2Table
    @Table2Table 2 года назад

    This is an absolutely incredible video. Wow.

  • @rhythmaddict808
    @rhythmaddict808 3 года назад +1

    Woody you can have coffee anytime! We love your reactions! Great show you guys! also lovin the comments! Hugs from Maui!

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +2

      Awesome! Thank you!

  • @kristy6705
    @kristy6705 2 года назад

    Gus "knuckle heads" lol. I love you man. These videos seriously are so great and actually make me want to dive but I'm terrified of all the stuff you have to do, so probably will never happen.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  2 года назад +1

      I wish you would try it!

    • @kristy6705
      @kristy6705 2 года назад

      I wish I was brave enough to try. The younger more healthy outgoing me would probably be asking if I could take y'alls class. But I'm scared to do anything these days because I have lupus and on blood thinner.

  • @ep7672
    @ep7672 2 года назад

    Extremely worthwhile video for anyone to watch.

  • @RW-ij1ci
    @RW-ij1ci 2 года назад +1

    There is so much more to diving then I ever thought....

  • @alirazvan6651
    @alirazvan6651 2 года назад

    Thanks for your great videos.....

  • @ScubaGirlsInternational
    @ScubaGirlsInternational Год назад +1

    What a dangerous situation. I'd be curious to see what the post dive debriefing, if it occurred, was like. Thanks for the review. 🐙

  • @sexydiverguy
    @sexydiverguy 3 года назад +4

    In my open water training in 1980 135 was the recommended max depth by PADI. Advanced was for sure 135

  • @antoniopafundi3455
    @antoniopafundi3455 2 года назад +1

    Two 12 years olds and the dive master happily goes up without checking...lucky there was this guy

  • @benjespina
    @benjespina 2 года назад

    I love how that Hurt is playing in the background. Awesome cover.

  • @grahamstevens9642
    @grahamstevens9642 3 года назад +2

    I just love this channel - having dived and not being impressed by certain charters- now a diving doctor and see this sort of shit in the chamber

  • @njvillarey
    @njvillarey 3 года назад +1

    Wow! I thought you had a million subs, def under rated you deserve much more! Great video!

  • @donnakawana
    @donnakawana 2 года назад

    Watching that's seeing the end it was basically 2 kids... An they were worried about anything else but their air... That blows my mind completely... Thank the star fishes below, you Sir were there to save their lives!! I hope you pointed out how almost dead they just were.... I was holding my breath worrying... Lol!! ✌🏼💗😊❣️

  • @mssarahdale
    @mssarahdale 11 месяцев назад

    Sobering reminder to us all to be diligent!
    My first dive with my dive computer, I programmed it for our parameters - 100 ft max depth on the wall at Grand Cayman (Think it was maybe my 6th or 7th dive ever) ... It starts beeping at max depth.
    We were a little below our dive master and I wanted to check what it sound like so I went to max depth with my buddy and 2 others. Everyone stopped and looked around and then at me wondering where the sound was from so it seemed to travel pretty far.
    (Also Kudos to the dm who was watching all of us like a hawk)

  • @condodog8116
    @condodog8116 3 года назад

    Can’t. Stop. Watching. Not a diver. Hell not a swimmer for that matter.Never ever ever really ever stop posting.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад

      We appreciate you. Thanks for the encouragement.

  • @guardrailbiter
    @guardrailbiter 2 года назад

    Good job, Dive Master. More like Master of Negligence.

  • @jeramy77m
    @jeramy77m 2 года назад +6

    I would love to learn how to dive. yet I probably shouldn't being a type 1 diabetic and I wear an insulin pump. But this channel is great! Keep it up Gus and Woody

    • @tommydevine9993
      @tommydevine9993 2 года назад +3

      If you are seriously interested in learning, you shouldn't let something like diabetes prevent you from that. Obviously, it introduces another variable for you and any dive partners to have to be fully aware of how to address in an emergency situation, but it isn't something that would be a cause to prevent you from getting underwater. As with anything dive related, if you get the proper training and are really diligent about your limitations, it shouldn't matter.

    • @cbob1488
      @cbob1488 Год назад

      @@tommydevine9993 it’s not diabetes they said but the fact that they have an insulin pump. It’s a machine about the size of a pager that has tubes that are running into your body so that it can constantly monitor the bodies insulin levels and pump insulin in as needed. You can’t take it on and off at your leisure. And who knows what the atmospheric pressure the electronics are capable of withstanding without failure not to mention that it could be water resistant and not water proof and is a highly sensitive area of the body as it breaks the bodies most effective barrier to bacteria etc., aka the epidermis since it requires tubes into the body and due to the size of bacteria there’s no way for the body or scientifically produced pumps to close the entrance to the point of 100% bacterial resistance especially since the tubes need to be replaced at certain intervals. Not trying to be crass and I respect your words of encouragement to someone especially a stranger to try and let nothing stop them from enjoying life to the fullest possible point given conditions or concerns. Just trying to add clarity that it’s not diabetes that is a likely restraint but an insulin pump which is totally different. It would be like trying to still dive with a PIC line and IV bag for hydration and nutrition for someone incapable of investing food or water orally for whatever reason or time frame

  • @TammyBundleballs
    @TammyBundleballs 2 года назад +1

    Great vid. If I may suggest one thing,
    I had a hard time listening because I could not help but be distracted by the song they used to edit the video. Johnny Cash's cover of "Hurt."
    Maybe if there isn't any talking in the videos that you are reacting to, just mute them entirely so that we can focus on the important things you're saying.
    Love the channel!
    Then again this is 10 months old, I'm just binging the channel :)

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  2 года назад +1

      Sorry about that

  • @GapingClam
    @GapingClam 2 года назад

    This is the only time i will complain about the stops in the video.... Just because i was vibing to the song u kept interrupting 😆.
    Just joking, loved the breakdown and video as always. Going through all the older ones now ❤

  • @joelisamclean8178
    @joelisamclean8178 2 года назад

    Great lessons!

  • @endphen
    @endphen 2 года назад

    great video so much awesome advice

  • @PARRISHMELLOTT
    @PARRISHMELLOTT 3 года назад

    I'm not a diver. My worst fear is drowning although I'm a strong swimmer Your channel gives me valuable information and at 47yrs old I think I would like to try it. I've snorkeled off the coast of MIAMI and it was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen!! crystal clear water barracudas sea turtles. it be so cool to go a little further down than I can actually hold my breath. LOVE the channel I just subscribed , THANK YOU GUYS!!! I am now officially addicted to this topic!

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +1

      We appreciate you. Thanks for this comment and for watching us.

  • @cspup5326
    @cspup5326 3 года назад +1

    I have no interest in diving or even swimming but damn dude your videos are addicting

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад

      It’s a great addiction to have!

  • @laranadesign4764
    @laranadesign4764 Год назад

    @4:10 if we think of diving like flying (pilot in an aircraft), your instruments (computer, gauges, etc) are how you remain in a safe altitude, not climbing or falling too quickly.

  • @lisad6721
    @lisad6721 2 года назад +1

    @17:33 "But I mean what are you gonna do?? You CAN'T JUST die:🤣🤣🤣🤣 no truer words have been spoken about life hahah love ittt

  • @bs9692
    @bs9692 3 года назад +1

    The Peregrine doesn't have air integration so can't alert you to low tank preasuse.
    Another make that has the loud vibration alerts is Ratio, I have an iX3M and it is very similar to the large Shearwaters, and the vibration attracts other divers attention.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад

      That’s true. But I think the lack of AI is compensated by only having to pay a fraction of the cost of the higher end Shearwater computers that come with AI.

  • @Dylan-hy3oh
    @Dylan-hy3oh Год назад +1

    It annoys me how they don’t realize this guy saved their life from so many bad outcomes

  • @jaydubs6354
    @jaydubs6354 2 года назад +1

    Crazy video. I’m just an open water diver. I’ve never hit triple digit depths on any dive I’ve ever done. I typically max out around 90-95’ or 30-32. Meters. Thinking of being on a single tank at 140’ makes my ass pucker. Especially considering they had under 1000 psi left. Jesus haha. This one is about as close to the line as you can get without bringing up bodies

  • @user-jg9rp5qf4g
    @user-jg9rp5qf4g 2 года назад +4

    As I understand it, the adult diving partner was the parent. Completely reckless. If they were alone that's one thing, but to put a 12-year-old child in this kind of danger is inexcusable. The dive instructor should be blamed for dereliction of duty, and the parent for obliviousness. But the latter is more understandable.

    • @Mahargbot
      @Mahargbot 2 года назад

      I disagree, the divemaster is partially at fault but so are the divers. You are responsible for yourself and your buddy and need to monitor your own air and depth. If this is not a course the diver needs to control themselves, there is never an excuse for running out of air, the divers fault first and foremost.

    • @user-jg9rp5qf4g
      @user-jg9rp5qf4g 2 года назад

      @@Mahargbot For sure, but I was more referring to the 12-year-old. I think in this case it's both parties, but the parent shoulders most of the blame. I feel it's unconscionable to put a child in this situation. I think the parent had the responsibility to know their limit, and use the divemaster as a resource for them to look out for the child, if that makes sense?

  • @angelkowalski4846
    @angelkowalski4846 2 года назад +1

    With the peregrine you can set the va;yes that trigger the vibration alarms, depth, time and NDL time

  • @GoVols2015
    @GoVols2015 2 года назад +1

    My first dive was in the Bahamas on Spring break. It was 40ft. After the dive, we returned to the shop and paid. They had pics of divers around large reef sharks. I asked about them and the clerk said they are at 100ft, you can’t dive that deep. Well….later that day I was 100ft down with a dozen of sharks. Such a great memory but now I have my Advanced cert and understand how terrible that decision was. It didn’t take much to convince the dive shop to take my buddy and I down to swim with the sharks. I guess it’s a Bahamas thing.

  • @justinedwards9393
    @justinedwards9393 3 года назад

    Very informative channel , subscribed 👍

  • @someoneelse1904
    @someoneelse1904 Год назад

    Great video

  • @Chogogo717
    @Chogogo717 3 года назад +2

    Wow... that is nuts.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад

      I know right?!? Lucky to be alive.

  • @mussazubidat6934
    @mussazubidat6934 2 года назад

    I have gotten my advance open water license about a year and a half ago and my son received his open water only. My limit is 30 meters ( 100 ft ) and my st is only (18) meters. My son and I dive as buddies and we never pass the 18 meters. My rule is to regularly check for air and head back when I reach 100 bar and get out of the water at 50 bar. My number one advice is to make sure you are weighted correctly. When I dive I deflate my BCD all the way and I am still in control of my decent since I am not over weighted. On my dives never needed to add air except at the surface.

  • @PastorSkeptic
    @PastorSkeptic 3 года назад

    I dont dive at all. In fact I never have, but I cant stop watching this channel.

    • @DIVETALK
      @DIVETALK  3 года назад +1

      We’ll have to record more videos then! Thank you for watching.

  • @Bombelus
    @Bombelus 3 года назад +1

    When saying you breathe certain amount of PSI per minute what cylinder volume did you assume?

  • @UltraReefReseller
    @UltraReefReseller 2 года назад

    From what I understand, anything below 80 feet and it doesn't matter as much how fast you go up, because you are dealing with less pressure change. As you ascend, the greater the pressure change is, especially in the last 30 to 60 feet, where you really need to do safety stops, with a final safety stop at 10-15 feet. Great video Gus.

    • @cbob1488
      @cbob1488 Год назад

      This is a total contradiction. Less than 80 feet and it doesn’t matter how fast you ascend, because there’s less pressure change. Then you say as you ascend the greater the pressure change especially the last 60-30feet. Dude?! At least read your comment twice if you are trying to spout facts. Cause that makes no sense whatsoever and the only thing that does is you agreeing with Gus (A highly trained and certified diver) about a safety stop at 15 feet. Might’ve well just said thanks Gus I appreciate your comments and respect how dedicated you are to safety and all of the hard work you have done to become such a knowledgeable diver and person. People who are lucky enough to be taught by you should be extremely grateful and carry on your knowledge, respect and skills, to say the least, to future generations of divers.

    • @UltraReefReseller
      @UltraReefReseller Год назад

      @@cbob1488 you got hung up on me using the word under insted of below, my bad.

    • @cbob1488
      @cbob1488 Год назад

      @@UltraReefReseller You are correct, my misunderstanding. I would assume that below/under 80 feet the speed matters only in so far as needing to stop at various points for decompression but that is just too finicky and doesn’t make your statement any less correct

  • @breakerwave31
    @breakerwave31 2 года назад

    I'm not a cave diver and even I found alot of that video pretty silly and over dramatized. Just reefs, walls and swimthroughs for me. I would not even consider going into a cave without proper training and having an experienced cave diver with me. I have to admit it does look like alot of fun. Glad I found the Dive Talk channel. Great content!

    • @Davinhomx
      @Davinhomx 2 года назад

      Did you even watch the video?. Cause it has absolutely nothing to do with caves buddy

  • @JoeKyser
    @JoeKyser 3 года назад

    Thsnk god for dude being there