It is strange or maybe even remarkable that in the series the Horst Mahler thread is abandonded, although Mahler later became a Nazi himself, providing another peculiar example of an odd feedback loop around others of which Curtis circles throughout
Odd feedback loop is right - I see all of this swimming in the same fishbowl, trapped by these ghosts of the past. Not sure what the poster was trying to convey posting this video, really. That this is the *correct* take? That's not the point of the Curtis doc.
@@antonoko Just adding to this thread... He may have made the move because being a true humanist is exhausting within capitalist structures which exist on the premise of the supremacy of one group over another (capitalist worker; white non-white; human non-human, etc.) Capitalist structures enable the cognitive dissonance of Westerners to the suffering of those in the 'periphery'. Westerners understand that the third-world suffers. To make it easier to cope with life, other humans (like us) are cast as non-human. When you've lost the war of agency to capitalist structures, fascism becomes the only valid option.Those who are suffering are not human, they're not worthy of sympathy. And in order to be consistent with his own beliefs and existence, Horst Mahler became a Nazi. On a wider level, one could inference that this leads to war (fascist expansion) and the destruction of capitalist structures, afterwhich the flowering of sympathy and humanism (as a result of the many dead). The loop repeats...
In the end, Curtis concludes that people are not capable of improving the world with simple theories, because the sheer number of variables is too great to comprehend, and any action taken has no guarantee of not only success, but any noticeable outcome at all.
Earth team working overtime to stamp out the hate from the people who refuse to see CurtisPilled Is best Pilled. Curtis isn’t ideological. He just describes what is. Thanks earth team everyone’s on the same team 👍
"If the day should ever come when we must go, if some day we are compelled to leave the scene of history, we will slam the door so hard that the universe will shake and mankind will stand back in stupefaction..” - Joseph Goebbels
Found this, says it's not real, but there is a real quote in there like it, but not from Goebbels. www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/62nol8/is_this_quote_by_joseph_goebbels_real_if_the_day/
If you didn't watch after this point, and have never watched Part 1 of The Living Dead - Which deals with how the Allies erased much of the military history of Germany that became synonymous with Nazism - then Adam Curtis does seem to be implying this. But although he is obviously constructing a story, I don't think he really says anything (for himself, toward us) until the very end of Part 6. Up until that point, what he is laying out through the rest of the documentary is how much everyone had failed in their own paths to changing the world around them. The Red Army Faction believed that a police state existed in Germany, when it was ironically their actions (and successes) that lead to the modern, computer system based police state which finally did capture them. To say the somewhat regulated capitalism that RAF (Or Black Panthers) saw was Fascist is mostly incorrect. It surely wasn't Nazi, but I doubt anyone would say that today - regardless of how it is immediately defined - the vast pool of financial control by corporate entities has led to an equivalent political power that is exerted on the consumer.
You should also watch his other documentaries like "all watched over by machines of loving grace". It shows a bit more on what influenced computer based systems of control and how that lead to exploiting the third world. It's not on RUclips but I found it on bitchute.
@@lolcatjunior Yo I wanna give you guys a shoutout and let you know that when you continue to study, the truth will present itself faster and faster. You can use rational analysis with your intake of knowledge to sort whats true and false. Set goals, use analysis, and we should all reach the same conclusion. That is, a connection, with the 'above'. Watch out for the "below" stuff, thats where all this black magic shit they did came from. I watched all of Adam Curtis work I could find. I first heard about him on NPR in USA, discussing Hypernormalization. See my channel for my conclusion on our shared dilemma, that is, of humanity.
Thirdworldism summed up perfectly. Still active in many forms, e.g. climate activists which support privileges for poor countries, pro-immigration bullies, etc
We aren't just all from Africa, and don't just have a single common ancestor as human beings, but all matter itself was born at once, according to the research at present. So we are related to it all. There is no third or first world. There is only the Earth for us humans, as home, and the hierarchy created here by evil souls, for power. You're in the Earth Team now. Follow me to know what to do about that, going forward. Love
Can't get more of a sick society than theirs. I spent a year in mainland China, can't imagine Singapore. S Korea is demanding nuclear weapons though, and the teenage girls all love plastic surgery, and their love-pop culture media pervades the entire region. I wouldn't want to live there. I choose The Gambia, until I'm killed, or I find something better.
I am awake. My eyes are open. I see the pain of over thousand generations of pain and confusion, and suffering, in the eyes of those awake around me. The word woke is English. It is the same a realizing your soul, in Christian English. It is said differently, in all other languages. The common ground is our mother's ancestry, maternally, back to Africa. Check out "Mitochondrial Eve", on wikipedia, or the first page of the Holy Bible Old Testament, or the Hadith, or consider the Gita. Or, consider my other videos, especially the ones coming out soon, which are totally different from all previous videos. Peace, be with you, long lost relation.
If you've ever watched more than 20 minutes of an Adam Curtis documentary, "Marxist mumbo jumbo" would be the last possible thing you could criticise him for. He's pretty staunchly a centrist dad at heart, ideologically. For all his conspiratorial word salads that make apathetic people feel clever, his critiques never really go anywhere and feel hollow.
Adam Curtis is a libertarian. His constant shoe horning of Ayn Rand into every single one of his documentaries ought to point to that. By contrast I don't see him constantly advocating that privatisation of the NHS is an evil.
It is strange or maybe even remarkable that in the series the Horst Mahler thread is abandonded, although Mahler later became a Nazi himself, providing another peculiar example of an odd feedback loop around others of which Curtis circles throughout
Odd feedback loop is right - I see all of this swimming in the same fishbowl, trapped by these ghosts of the past. Not sure what the poster was trying to convey posting this video, really. That this is the *correct* take? That's not the point of the Curtis doc.
That is crazy. He might be an environmentalist soon, haha
@@antonoko
Just adding to this thread...
He may have made the move because being a true humanist is exhausting within capitalist structures which exist on the premise of the supremacy of one group over another (capitalist worker; white non-white; human non-human, etc.)
Capitalist structures enable the cognitive dissonance of Westerners to the suffering of those in the 'periphery'. Westerners understand that the third-world suffers. To make it easier to cope with life, other humans (like us) are cast as non-human.
When you've lost the war of agency to capitalist structures, fascism becomes the only valid option.Those who are suffering are not human, they're not worthy of sympathy. And in order to be consistent with his own beliefs and existence, Horst Mahler became a Nazi.
On a wider level, one could inference that this leads to war (fascist expansion) and the destruction of capitalist structures, afterwhich the flowering of sympathy and humanism (as a result of the many dead).
The loop repeats...
@@1RAGEACEwhence the flowering of sympathy and humanism in communist states built on 10’s of millions of bodies ?
Adam Curtiss is a genius. I have that trilogy translated to Portuguese for free. Ask me if desired. Specially the rise of machines.
If you like this clip, I recommend Derrick Jensen's "The Culture of Make Believe."
Thank you, I'll check it out.
Will seek it out!
In the end, Curtis concludes that people are not capable of improving the world with simple theories, because the sheer number of variables is too great to comprehend, and any action taken has no guarantee of not only success, but any noticeable outcome at all.
I hold the truth, it was a gift, from God. I'll make my own video on it over the next few weeks. Peace be with us. God bless the good.
What is it@@ETIC-U
Earth team working overtime to stamp out the hate from the people who refuse to see CurtisPilled Is best Pilled. Curtis isn’t ideological. He just describes what is. Thanks earth team everyone’s on the same team 👍
Thank you SO much for this comment.
"If the day should ever come when we must go, if some day we are compelled to leave the scene of history, we will slam the door so hard that the universe will shake and mankind will stand back in stupefaction..” - Joseph Goebbels
Found this, says it's not real, but there is a real quote in there like it, but not from Goebbels. www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/62nol8/is_this_quote_by_joseph_goebbels_real_if_the_day/
chilling
Is the woman in the thumbnail Afeni Shakur? I think it was a little vague in the full video. Thanks in advance!!!
No, I don't think so. I could be wrong. She wasn't credited in the full documentary.
If you didn't watch after this point, and have never watched Part 1 of The Living Dead - Which deals with how the Allies erased much of the military history of Germany that became synonymous with Nazism - then Adam Curtis does seem to be implying this.
But although he is obviously constructing a story, I don't think he really says anything (for himself, toward us) until the very end of Part 6. Up until that point, what he is laying out through the rest of the documentary is how much everyone had failed in their own paths to changing the world around them.
The Red Army Faction believed that a police state existed in Germany, when it was ironically their actions (and successes) that lead to the modern, computer system based police state which finally did capture them.
To say the somewhat regulated capitalism that RAF (Or Black Panthers) saw was Fascist is mostly incorrect. It surely wasn't Nazi, but I doubt anyone would say that today - regardless of how it is immediately defined - the vast pool of financial control by corporate entities has led to an equivalent political power that is exerted on the consumer.
Its super fucked up rn and USA is the facist 5th reich or w/e it seems like. our ecosphere needs saving!
ruclips.net/video/LHLuiLR-pKE/видео.html
You should also watch his other documentaries like "all watched over by machines of loving grace". It shows a bit more on what influenced computer based systems of control and how that lead to exploiting the third world. It's not on RUclips but I found it on bitchute.
@@lolcatjunior Yo I wanna give you guys a shoutout and let you know that when you continue to study, the truth will present itself faster and faster. You can use rational analysis with your intake of knowledge to sort whats true and false. Set goals, use analysis, and we should all reach the same conclusion. That is, a connection, with the 'above'. Watch out for the "below" stuff, thats where all this black magic shit they did came from. I watched all of Adam Curtis work I could find. I first heard about him on NPR in USA, discussing Hypernormalization. See my channel for my conclusion on our shared dilemma, that is, of humanity.
@@ETIC-U sounds pretty esoteric to me...
tnx .
no wonder this guy is deleted from yt ...
Thirdworldism summed up perfectly. Still active in many forms, e.g. climate activists which support privileges for poor countries, pro-immigration bullies, etc
We aren't just all from Africa, and don't just have a single common ancestor as human beings, but all matter itself was born at once, according to the research at present. So we are related to it all. There is no third or first world. There is only the Earth for us humans, as home, and the hierarchy created here by evil souls, for power.
You're in the Earth Team now. Follow me to know what to do about that, going forward. Love
The problem with theories like this are that they disregard how third world can become first if they play the game. See: Singapore and South Korea.
Can't get more of a sick society than theirs. I spent a year in mainland China, can't imagine Singapore. S Korea is demanding nuclear weapons though, and the teenage girls all love plastic surgery, and their love-pop culture media pervades the entire region. I wouldn't want to live there. I choose The Gambia, until I'm killed, or I find something better.
Not. To have developed countries, it is necessary to have poor countries.
@@DiogoOliveira-mx1lf We grow weary of building your pyramid, Ramses.
@@DiogoOliveira-mx1lf it is not necessary to have poor countries you dork
These were one-party dictatorships (the former still is) not unlike the rest of the Third World
Thanks jews.
love them jews. ever wrap veggies in tinfoil the the fridge? lastas weeks
looks quite like woke theory
I am awake. My eyes are open. I see the pain of over thousand generations of pain and confusion, and suffering, in the eyes of those awake around me.
The word woke is English. It is the same a realizing your soul, in Christian English. It is said differently, in all other languages.
The common ground is our mother's ancestry, maternally, back to Africa.
Check out "Mitochondrial Eve", on wikipedia, or the first page of the Holy Bible Old Testament, or the Hadith, or consider the Gita. Or, consider my other videos, especially the ones coming out soon, which are totally different from all previous videos.
Peace, be with you, long lost relation.
Tired Marxist mumbo jumbo.
No playlists, no channels, and a new account. Looks like my post is worthy of bot interference! I'll take that trophy.
If you've ever watched more than 20 minutes of an Adam Curtis documentary, "Marxist mumbo jumbo" would be the last possible thing you could criticise him for. He's pretty staunchly a centrist dad at heart, ideologically. For all his conspiratorial word salads that make apathetic people feel clever, his critiques never really go anywhere and feel hollow.
You just haven't understood it - because you haven't tried.
Adam Curtis is a libertarian. His constant shoe horning of Ayn Rand into every single one of his documentaries ought to point to that. By contrast I don't see him constantly advocating that privatisation of the NHS is an evil.
@@Weegie_in_Spain He's not advocating anything. He's describing what is.