Wow! the scattering re- Zizo speaks volumes. They won't fire him coz he ate with many of them. Tired of defending these people. I wish they get zero votes next election. This is too much
There is nothing called active and inactive. Why was Ace Magashule forced tp step aside but someone who voluntarily step aside is brought back? It simply means step aside have some eyes.
There is no mess here Zizi Kodwa is in the list and the list was guzzeted as such so you cannot take him out but the step aside rule is not guzzeted it is àrulè of the party . Learn more about the step aside rule.
...why Bongani Bongo was removed from Parliament when he was an ordinary ANC member of Parliament. What about ACE Magashule...why Zandile Gumede was removed?...Sibongile is talking untruths...
DA must never think this GNU is about them.All political parties that accept the invitation to the GNU after they were voted by their members must participate in GNU...DA can't be allowed to be the tail that wags the dog...I'm surprised by DA now fighting for positions....human beings are all greedy.
DA only insist of their fair share as relates to proportion of seats they brought to the GNU. ANC greed shown in wanting DA support but cling to power.
... and the ANC must stop acting as if Ramaphosa is king. His power comes from parliament and in parliament the ANC does not have the majority. Constantly repeating that choosing members is his prerogative ignores the fact that he is dependent of parliaments confidence in him to make the right decision.
@@thomasprogli3372but does the constitution make provision for those considerations? It is an awfully detailed document the constitution, so the expectation would be that it would stipulate any externality to "prerogative". It seems like as the DA we want the "statement of intent" to transform into a two thirds majority mandate to nicodemously amend the constitution even though we are against any transformation.
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 "but does the constitution make provision for those considerations?" ... sure, the parliament can, according to the constitution, take away Ramaphosa's presedency. Then he has no "prerogative". No change of the constitution necessary. But you know that.
You are making a very big mistake the ANC has never confused. It is because you don't understand the step aside rule, what does it imply. Make a research then you will be able to speak on an informed position.
@@PieterBritz-le9ht anyone could have ''leaked'' the document. South Africans, as the Government, need to know about these things. Politicians are our servants, they handle such info on our behalf. We need to know about these things. Govt of the ppl, by the ppl, for the ppl right?
It will depend who leaked that info and it can be traced to the person who received it first and put it to single person news out there then they can see who work against the national parties.
The GNU thing was just a mere ANC idea. And so far, that idea hasn't materialized, as long as there's no agreement amongst all the parties with Parliament seats. Some of the parties (EFF and MKP) with a sizeable chunk in Parliament are not part of this (wrongly termed) GNU thing. If the da and ff+ were fortunate enough to have garnered 50%+1 in Parliament, we'd have had a fully functional Parliament by now. Which is more than I can can for our ANC, EFF and MKP. 😢
Let's all be patient and takes everybody on board. Even if a cabinet announcement is pronounced , criticism, negative shade and pointing of fingers will always be directed to Pres Ramaphosa. The man sacrifices his life, time and family to work continously for a betterment of all ,while majority are now in our homes with our families in this cold weather and just waiting to hate and throw shade. South Africans are a nation of complaints and negativity, regardless. Let's wait patiently for the Pres to announce his cabinet. Let's be patience.❤
The ANC was quiet untill CR was vote in as president,nw they want to change the rules,but CR will not see the end of this if the DA dont get what it want
The ANC has realised that they could have invited the small parties and offered them huge sums that work with the DA. Soon the DA will be a small party. The ANC is deliberately holding the cabinet so that they can buy more parties to strengthen its hold
That is sort of a contradiction. The more parties they invite the more positions they have to give away. If they just went into a coalition with the DA the ratio would have beein 2:1. Now the more parties they are inviting the ratio has moved to 3:2. So they are actually worse off ... unless they can unload the DA. Then they have a ratio of 4:1 ...which I think they are trying to achieve.
You omitted vital important point. Check all videos of DA during elections. Who are voters supporters? In short,DA is growing daily. Do not bother yourself with Hellen and that boy. ANC combined with all parties will never defeat DA. For now yes. Come 2029,you will see miracle. DA supporters are saying,they want employment,better education,the list is endless. Unlike what they saw the last thirty years,sewerage spilling,potholes,fancy cars enticing small young beautiful girls. You know why are we failing,we don't face reality. It's about race,colour and all beautiful words. This conversation is between me and you. Watch the space,come 2029 0:03
People must just stop this notion of impatience, just wait till the negotiations are done and the president makes the pronouncement. The same way Zuma was insultant when he was pres. You guyz are doing it to Ciryl once more kanti nifunani
Anc members and cosatu donot want change. Another fact is there is no anc cosatu government. This is totally different. They must back off if they cannot work with DA ramaphosa as a new different president must be decisive and listen to gnu he genuinely wanted help. Other wise I agree this is a fuss ramaphosa does not need help.
I suppose your party has won the elections but I wonder why is it not governing this country. All the eyes are looking up to the ANC to lead the government where is yours? You are arguing something invalid.
Where are your winners, when will they govern? You are still talking about loosers now? This is the time to govern. Where are your winners they must come forward and govern please the time is moving. Leave ANC loosers alone and winners should start the work, we are waiting for services.
What isthe problem with the DA te.li g the public what they are going to request? Surely they have every right to circulate this? Maybe we, the public, would like to know what positions each party wants. There should be no secrecy about this.
I THINK MNA NIQALE NGOKUTYA KAKHULU NALIBALA NGATHI , SO ABANTU ABALIBALI ,NGK WE ARE IN THIS MESS BECAUSE OF YOU GUYS , NIYIBULELE I ANC NGOKUNYOLUKA NOKUNGACINGELI ABANTU NITYA NODWA ANINAXESHA LETHU , SYAFA YI CRIME ,EZILALI KUYI MESS EVERYWHERE KUNINZI MANI HAYI SUKA
ANC can govern without DA that is true. The DA chooses where to respect the constitution sending a list to the ANC is not negotiating it’s going against the constitution. So Helen and her team must acknowledge this.
Ramaphosa does not have to accept the list and the DA does not have to support him in case of a vote of confidence. You have somehow missed that point that the ANC does not have +50% of the votes. Ramaphosa is not a king. His power comes from parliament and there the ANC needs partners.
There is no confusion but ya confused yourselves with no confusion bcz you are you. The list is gazetted 😂 n later will be removed then you will be happy naai's
To whom were we supposed to request a mandate to go for GNU? You? ANC is a stand alone party. If you want to be involved you will wait until we go to our national conference and vote you in. For now your question is irrelevant. We were not going to seek approval from you.
A seasoned politician with knowledge and insight in politics. Calm and professional man. Thanx sir, sfor your insight and integrity.❤
The DA must keep the vicegrip on
Yes mme you are asking the right questions.
Yes, no paryt can do that, but we South Africans, can
Besani his very intelligent his got brains
Potholes and broken traffic lights are waiting too
Wow! the scattering re- Zizo speaks volumes. They won't fire him coz he ate with many of them. Tired of defending these people. I wish they get zero votes next election. This is too much
That will happen only if you will be the only voter next èlection, if not forget.
👍ANC keep on moving forward
There is nothing called active and inactive. Why was Ace Magashule forced tp step aside but someone who voluntarily step aside is brought back? It simply means step aside have some eyes.
He never pointed out one house which asbestos roof was removed.
Confusion set in when you decided to call a coalition something else...now the GNU cannot decide how to decide
Zizi Kodwa will participate but not active while getting paid fully😅. Why not put someone who can participate fully
There is no saving of these thieves!
Only 3 Parties initially signed the statement of intent and its binding in legal rights
Smart guy. This guy should be the next President
Once the list is guzzeted, you can not change the list😂. What a mess
There is no mess here Zizi Kodwa is in the list and the list was guzzeted as such so you cannot take him out but the step aside rule is not guzzeted it is àrulè of the party . Learn more about the step aside rule.
...why Bongani Bongo was removed from Parliament when he was an ordinary ANC member of Parliament. What about ACE Magashule...why Zandile Gumede was removed?...Sibongile is talking untruths...
Bt you are equal now
More bad news for sa our poor country and its people will suffer again for the next 5 years
No active participation but active remuneration 😂😂😂😂😂
DA must never think this GNU is about them.All political parties that accept the invitation to the GNU after they were voted by their members must participate in GNU...DA can't be allowed to be the tail that wags the dog...I'm surprised by DA now fighting for positions....human beings are all greedy.
DA only insist of their fair share as relates to proportion of seats they brought to the GNU. ANC greed shown in wanting DA support but cling to power.
... and the ANC must stop acting as if Ramaphosa is king. His power comes from parliament and in parliament the ANC does not have the majority. Constantly repeating that choosing members is his prerogative ignores the fact that he is dependent of parliaments confidence in him to make the right decision.
This is not for DA only. DA is a cry baby 😢
@@thomasprogli3372but does the constitution make provision for those considerations? It is an awfully detailed document the constitution, so the expectation would be that it would stipulate any externality to "prerogative". It seems like as the DA we want the "statement of intent" to transform into a two thirds majority mandate to nicodemously amend the constitution even though we are against any transformation.
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 "but does the constitution make provision for those considerations?" ... sure, the parliament can, according to the constitution, take away Ramaphosa's presedency. Then he has no "prerogative". No change of the constitution necessary. But you know that.
The ANC is so confused - here this one talk about the Step Aside rule for Zizi Kodwa😅
You are making a very big mistake the ANC has never confused. It is because you don't understand the step aside rule, what does it imply. Make a research then you will be able to speak on an informed position.
Why do not educate us ANC cadre, because we do not trust internet! How does ANC Step Aside Rule works? 🥴
It's new,step inside
It's new,step inside
It is called transparency not bad faith. We do not want to be stuck with a sunset clause type of deal...Eban!!
😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
The one acting in bad faith is not the DA could be leaked by anyone else
@@PieterBritz-le9ht anyone could have ''leaked'' the document. South Africans, as the Government, need to know about these things. Politicians are our servants, they handle such info on our behalf. We need to know about these things. Govt of the ppl, by the ppl, for the ppl right?
True,why are people voting if they have no say in parliament matters?
It will depend who leaked that info and it can be traced to the person who received it first and put it to single person news out there then they can see who work against the national parties.
Some of you will regret.
The GNU thing was just a mere ANC idea. And so far, that idea hasn't materialized, as long as there's no agreement amongst all the parties with Parliament seats. Some of the parties (EFF and MKP) with a sizeable chunk in Parliament are not part of this (wrongly termed) GNU thing.
If the da and ff+ were fortunate enough to have garnered 50%+1 in Parliament, we'd have had a fully functional Parliament by now. Which is more than I can can for our ANC, EFF and MKP. 😢
As the DA we wouldn't entertain transformation or inclusivity or anything like that, we should have set the minimum wage to R1800 last week already!
Helen Zille is saying "ke haka mo"🤣🤣🤣
Let's all be patient and takes everybody on board. Even if a cabinet announcement is pronounced , criticism, negative shade and pointing of fingers will always be directed to Pres Ramaphosa. The man sacrifices his life, time and family to work continously for a betterment of all ,while majority are now in our homes with our families in this cold weather and just waiting to hate and throw shade. South Africans are a nation of complaints and negativity, regardless. Let's wait patiently for the Pres to announce his cabinet. Let's be patience.❤
"It is participating that is not active "😂yoh
They don't care anymore 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Government is suppose to serve the public... Do the job that's all
The ANC was quiet untill CR was vote in as president,nw they want to change the rules,but CR will not see the end of this if the DA dont get what it want
No single party should behave like a prefect for the GNU.
The AN is a leading party in the GNU and that and that is the voice of the voters all other parties are invited by the ANC.
@@thandekavikilahle8081 ANC is NOT my voice - bunch of directionless thugs.
The ANC is simply confused, your salvation is at Nkandla. Just go to Zuma and apologize, he will forgive and save you.
DA was waiting for such opportunity and ANC fall for a trap now it’s time to deal with it
If they let DA to leave Khona abay’ khala
The ANC has realised that they could have invited the small parties and offered them huge sums that work with the DA. Soon the DA will be a small party. The ANC is deliberately holding the cabinet so that they can buy more parties to strengthen its hold
That is sort of a contradiction. The more parties they invite the more positions they have to give away. If they just went into a coalition with the DA the ratio would have beein 2:1. Now the more parties they are inviting the ratio has moved to 3:2. So they are actually worse off ... unless they can unload the DA. Then they have a ratio of 4:1 ...which I think they are trying to achieve.
You omitted vital important point. Check all videos of DA during elections. Who are voters supporters? In short,DA is growing daily. Do not bother yourself with Hellen and that boy. ANC combined with all parties will never defeat DA. For now yes. Come 2029,you will see miracle. DA supporters are saying,they want employment,better education,the list is endless. Unlike what they saw the last thirty years,sewerage spilling,potholes,fancy cars enticing small young beautiful girls. You know why are we failing,we don't face reality. It's about race,colour and all beautiful words. This conversation is between me and you. Watch the space,come 2029 0:03
How does id differ with Magashules step aside case?
People must just stop this notion of impatience, just wait till the negotiations are done and the president makes the pronouncement. The same way Zuma was insultant when he was pres. You guyz are doing it to Ciryl once more kanti nifunani
Anc members and cosatu donot want change. Another fact is there is no anc cosatu government. This is totally different. They must back off if they cannot work with DA ramaphosa as a new different president must be decisive and listen to gnu he genuinely wanted help. Other wise I agree this is a fuss ramaphosa does not need help.
GNU as it exist is nothing without DA.
Black People are already nothing with DA nothing new.
If it is gazetted and that minister does not do its job to change things to a working department what happens to pull him of the job??
DA, please come out of these so called GNU, pull out of GP and KZN coalition as well.
They must just pull out its a dying party for black voters who will join BOSA and ASA anyway
Step aside inside🙆🙆
Let DA rule
I HOPE DA, IFP and PA get ministerial positions the rest i dont care
He struggled on the question of Zizi Kodwa shem
Zizi Kodwa has stepped inside
The Zizi saga caught umhlekazi off guard
Sibongile seems like a chilled guy
😂 lies and nonsense at the same time
Confused Anc on Zizi or step aside rule😮
Step inside
Loosers, sellouts of notes , they have messup the country, now they want share the blame with other parties shame on them.
I suppose your party has won the elections but I wonder why is it not governing this country. All the eyes are looking up to the ANC to lead the government where is yours? You are arguing something invalid.
Where are your winners, when will they govern? You are still talking about loosers now? This is the time to govern. Where are your winners they must come forward and govern please the time is moving. Leave ANC loosers alone and winners should start the work, we are waiting for services.
Seems like nothing will change post election, except that parliament has one new MK clown show joining the circus. The poor will suffer the most.
😂😂the poor have been prevented from suffering more😂
Wow.
ANC clowns are very funny.
The interviewer should learn up on the constitution a bit more, she was just mansplained about how the government gazette works. Sheesh.
No this is nonsense all position is for DA you see your Ramaphosa you vote??
Step aside rule yaaa ne🤔
Cabinet should ultimately be made up of 3 parties. ANC, DA, IFP. NO ONE ELSE HAS ENOUGH OF THE VOTE TO DEMAND A POSITION.
I agree 💯💯💯💯 with you 💯💯💯
What isthe problem with the DA te.li g the public what they are going to request? Surely they have every right to circulate this? Maybe we, the public, would like to know what positions each party wants. There should be no secrecy about this.
Active but not participate 😂😂😂😂😂
Inactive while active
You as interviewer drives openly the ANCs case and target the DA at all cost. Try to be neutral.
I THINK MNA NIQALE NGOKUTYA KAKHULU NALIBALA NGATHI , SO ABANTU ABALIBALI ,NGK WE ARE IN THIS MESS BECAUSE OF YOU GUYS , NIYIBULELE I ANC NGOKUNYOLUKA NOKUNGACINGELI ABANTU NITYA NODWA ANINAXESHA LETHU , SYAFA YI CRIME ,EZILALI KUYI MESS EVERYWHERE KUNINZI MANI HAYI SUKA
Uyibekile inyaniso 100 percent right.
Yizwa nje Sibongile,ay cha ngeke ngivume,Fikile🤣🤣...leli qembu ikhona inkinga ekhona,..lento yokwenza izinto nity nilaya ubaba uZuma ngeke ilunge,cabangelani abantu abamnyama we Bheseni
Where is mbalula
That one is eating a humble pie. He's been disciplined for signing an agreement without reading it first kikikikiki 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
ANC can govern without DA that is true. The DA chooses where to respect the constitution sending a list to the ANC is not negotiating it’s going against the constitution. So Helen and her team must acknowledge this.
😂 Not proven DA leaked document, could have been leaked by ANC themselves. Gain sentiment ....
Ramaphosa does not have to accept the list and the DA does not have to support him in case of a vote of confidence. You have somehow missed that point that the ANC does not have +50% of the votes. Ramaphosa is not a king. His power comes from parliament and there the ANC needs partners.
ANC did not win they only got majority and they must stop acting boss
Letter of content girl.
You see growing man coming to TV know nothing about world no politics background nonsense
The ANC is exceedingly confused. Their salvation is at Nkandla; they must go to Zuma and apologize. He will forgive and save them🤞🤞
This guy needs REAL help.... total nonsense talker, this one...
He needs to be our next President. Smart guy. ❤
Anc had their time and they failed dismal with only Anc ministers
🤞🤞🤞🙏🙏
That isnot important rra le mo mathateng a go nna out shined by DA that is all.
Abanye benu bayokhals
So confusing statement
yet you are marginalising predominately Black parties like EFF,A.TM,MK and opt for racist Ronaldo Gouws DA.
There is no confusion but ya confused yourselves with no confusion bcz you are you. The list is gazetted 😂 n later will be removed then you will be happy naai's
EFF, ATM and MK not power hungry.
That is your thought not a true statement. I suppose.
What makes you so sure if that 😮😮😮😮😮
NIQHITHE KUBANI NGOKUDIBANISA NE DA WHO GAVE TAT MANDATE DID YOU CONSULT US REGARDING GNU NOPE HOW CAN YOU DECIDE FOR US
To whom were we supposed to request a mandate to go for GNU? You? ANC is a stand alone party. If you want to be involved you will wait until we go to our national conference and vote you in. For now your question is irrelevant. We were not going to seek approval from you.
Liar Besani
They should call Zuma to negotiate for them😂😂😂
This Sibongile guy and his Ramaphosa ANC are waiting for approval from their white madam zille.
This guy is a bullshitter
Relax, you're not starting a revolution here.
I agree. He is a great bullshitter and I love it.
Your guest is so frivolous,vexatious and very irresponsible.