Well, son, this here Linux roundup is a symphony of productivity and freedom-an ode to self-reliance, wrapped up in ones and zeroes. Let me tell you, there's no greater joy than seeing folks band together to build something rugged and dependable, like XFCE 4.20. It’s the woodworking bench of desktop environments-solid, unchanging, and gets the job done without fancy frills. Experimental Wayland support? That's like adding dovetail joints to your favorite workbench. A bit of finesse to an already sturdy foundation. As for the Serpent OS alpha-well, that’s the kind of frontier spirit I respect. Ikey Doherty carving out new paths with atomic updates and Rust tooling? Sounds like a craftsman who doesn’t settle for the status quo. It’s not ready for prime time yet, but innovation rarely is. You test, you tweak, you perfect-just like making your own canoe. In short, Linux and open source continue to embody the values I hold dear-autonomy, craftsmanship, and an honest day’s work. Keep tinkering, keep building, and keep lighting up the world one kernel at a time. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to configure Thunar's new split view pane. That’s my idea of a good time.
You've never seen my woodworking benches: For some things, simple just doesn't cut it! I'm a guitar builder, and there are curves and odd angles everywhere, as well as angles of attack to consider. My DE of choice is KDE Plasma it too fit's my versatility.
@@Bob-of-Zoid Woodworking benches and desktop environments-two arenas where a man’s tools reflect his character. I respect your dedication to curves, odd angles, and precision. A guitar builder knows that every detail matters, and compromise is not an option. KDE Plasma? Versatile, customizable, and efficient. It’s the multi-tool of DEs, and I can see why it appeals to a craftsman. Just like your woodworking bench adapts to the demands of your craft, Plasma molds itself to the needs of its user. Keep building, keep refining, and never settle for anything less than perfection.
That's not what "hybrid sleep support" means!! 😱 "Hybrid Sleep" is a combination ("hybrid") of "sleep" (aka suspend to RAM) and "hibernate" (aka suspend to disk). The idea is that when you close your laptop your system suspends to RAM so it can wake quickly when you open the screen, but if then your battery runs out (because "sleep" still uses some power) your system will automatically wake up from sleep and suspend to disk. At least this is how it was implemented on Windows last time I used Windows. The XFCE implementation is much simpler - it simply sets up the disk suspending image (basically dumping all RAM to swap and making sure the system knows how to "boot from hibernation") and then suspends to RAM - if you then run out of power, you're in a setup where you can plug in and wake up from hibernation.
They do make a nice combination, don’t they? By the time each new Debian version gets released, XFCE tends to have significant improvements. With luck, perhaps Debian 13 will incorporate these Wayland features in its XFCE live ISO in the coming months.
pretty sure they're going to have a Legion Go S(team) and a Legion Go X(box). They might also include a Legion Go W(indows) and a Legion Go B(arebones). Wouldn't be surprised at all.
tbf about the opensuse YQPkg, most DEs already have a fancy software manager. Also most software managers don't allow downloading or at least searching for dependencies I think, I can't find any info on this though. Great video as always btw!
Thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed it. What I meant is that YaST is already technical based so making more technical stuff isnt going to get new users. It is true that GNOME and KDE have their own stores but I believe they are the only DEs that have a store. The other stores are distro specific like Ubuntu, Mint, PopOS, etc have stores but not related to their DEs as for example getting Cinnamon doesnt bring in the Mint store. I think it is okay to make a custom distro store either based on GNOME's or KDE's or making their own because neither of these DE options are 100% ideal. I do think GNOME's is probably closest.
I was so hyped when Solos was started. And then Ikey pulled the worst stand one could. Unless Serpent is managed as an open source project that others can take over, I am not going anywhere near it. I am not reliving another Solus/Ikey event .
We go to great lengths to prevent the AI access to Makulu users computers and protect the users data, I would happily discuss the setup and where it goes from here. I sent you a message.
As a xfce fan, this is nice. I love how customize it is. Xfce is king. I'm so confuse about yqpkg. I'm gonna check Serpent os but I dont think I will use it execpt if it's realy good. Asahi linux sound like a beer made by the fedora team ngl. I dont like Apple, to me it's too pricy. Having the possibility to put linux on it is great. Steam sales are weard, but he, that cool. Thanks to proton I have a blast gaming on linux. CS is a bit... controversial right now. Makulu will creat skynet. Joke aside, this is creapy and uncanny. Nice vid
Here is a question for you to answer. How many times did you use the word also? In yesterday's presentation, I would say too many, I would guess it is something that you didn't notice the use as a conjunction of paragraphs. 250 is my guess!
XFCE is my daily driver and my biggest issue with it is stability. I have a gnome session purely so i can boot into it to fix whatever went wrong with XFCE. Its not an all the time thing but still annoying when i get dropped at a black screen
The only gripe that I have with XFCE is that it's ugly. Because lightweight does not mean it has to be ugly. They should ask the GNOME designers team to help them with the design. It could be both lightweight and good UI design.
I’m going to be building my first pc in a few weeks when the parts arrive, I currently use a MacBook Pro, iPhone and ps5. I am very tempted to use Linux on my new pc but because it will be partly for gaming, partly to hobby, what OS would ppl recomend? Im currently thinking mint or cachy. But im open to anything anyone suggests, I might even go for windows on a drive so I can play my games on steam through that 🍻
I recommend trying Ubuntu or something based on Ubuntu like Linux Mint, Zorin OS, or one of the flavors of Ubuntu. I made a video about getting started with Linux and explain why Ubuntu or something based on it and an overview of why each of the other options to consider. ruclips.net/video/WvR-6CVI-Mc/видео.html Maybe this will help. With more details, the info might change. I think CachyOS is interesting but I wouldnt call it beginner friendly so if you want to try it just keep that in mind.
@ thanks heaps, yeah I think cache is arch based, so much more in depth, but I’m thinking it might be the best way to go because of that, may as well go all out so I don’t try and take the easy way out 😂😉👊 but thanks I’ll check the video for sure! 😊🍻
You can game on steam through Linux with great performance with valve's proton. Nothing with kernel level anti-cheat will run though. Personally I recommend debian with whatever desktop environment you like so that it practically never breaks and a windows 10 LTSC/11 virtual machine for the work software you'll inevitably be unable to replace.
Allow me to be the devil on your shoulder: moving to Arch-based distros has been a lot of fun for me, I’ve had a lot of fun with vanilla Arch and EndeavourOS. If you’re mainly looking for a gaming-focused experience, Bazzite is popular for a reason. Good luck, and have fun getting into this awesome hobby!
In my opinion it’s relevant because Apple Silicon is awesome and MacBooks are very good laptops. I know people like to dump on Apple products, and I understand where they’re coming from, but not recognizing that they occasionally make good products is the equivalent of the fanboys not realizing when they are making garbage moves. I daily an MBP and I’m very fond of my iPhone. So I might be biased. Who knows. Cheers.
I always loved OpenSUSE's branding and YaST, as well as their approach to offer the choice between stable and rolling. But good lord, their "patterns" are like package spaghetti that is difficult to keep track of and just makes it a living nightmare to try to keep your system free of unnecessary bloat. Also, it's preconfigured to always install recommended dependencies, which makes the issue worse.
opensuse great distro, awful package management, zypper is garbage, if you run discover with kde, it will actually break your system in the long run, sad for such a great distro, which there could be more and better support for kde discover etc and an easier nvidia driver installation.
Are you talking about Tumbleweed, Slowroll, or Leap? Personally, I don't think zypper is garbage. It's not as fast as pacman, sure, but it's definitely more capable than dnf in my experience. Regarding KDE Discover-yeah, I get your frustration. I avoid it because it can indeed cause issues. For NVIDIA drivers, I agree that the process could be more streamlined.
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Well, son, this here Linux roundup is a symphony of productivity and freedom-an ode to self-reliance, wrapped up in ones and zeroes. Let me tell you, there's no greater joy than seeing folks band together to build something rugged and dependable, like XFCE 4.20. It’s the woodworking bench of desktop environments-solid, unchanging, and gets the job done without fancy frills. Experimental Wayland support? That's like adding dovetail joints to your favorite workbench. A bit of finesse to an already sturdy foundation.
As for the Serpent OS alpha-well, that’s the kind of frontier spirit I respect. Ikey Doherty carving out new paths with atomic updates and Rust tooling? Sounds like a craftsman who doesn’t settle for the status quo. It’s not ready for prime time yet, but innovation rarely is. You test, you tweak, you perfect-just like making your own canoe.
In short, Linux and open source continue to embody the values I hold dear-autonomy, craftsmanship, and an honest day’s work. Keep tinkering, keep building, and keep lighting up the world one kernel at a time. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to configure Thunar's new split view pane. That’s my idea of a good time.
You've never seen my woodworking benches: For some things, simple just doesn't cut it! I'm a guitar builder, and there are curves and odd angles everywhere, as well as angles of attack to consider.
My DE of choice is KDE Plasma it too fit's my versatility.
@@Bob-of-Zoid Woodworking benches and desktop environments-two arenas where a man’s tools reflect his character. I respect your dedication to curves, odd angles, and precision. A guitar builder knows that every detail matters, and compromise is not an option.
KDE Plasma? Versatile, customizable, and efficient. It’s the multi-tool of DEs, and I can see why it appeals to a craftsman. Just like your woodworking bench adapts to the demands of your craft, Plasma molds itself to the needs of its user. Keep building, keep refining, and never settle for anything less than perfection.
I always thought xfce + wayland was a dream.
Now its coming to fruition finally !
I cant wait to switch permanently to xfce.
Imagine XFCE with Hyprland! A man can dream
y not you may try that. Xfce 4.20 wayland don't have wm. you may try hyprland as wm.
@rocklinks i just dont know how to do that, so Im waiting for smarter people
you can try with lqxt-wayland that have those option
*xfce with wayland
nice xfce is getting prettier
That's not what "hybrid sleep support" means!! 😱
"Hybrid Sleep" is a combination ("hybrid") of "sleep" (aka suspend to RAM) and "hibernate" (aka suspend to disk). The idea is that when you close your laptop your system suspends to RAM so it can wake quickly when you open the screen, but if then your battery runs out (because "sleep" still uses some power) your system will automatically wake up from sleep and suspend to disk. At least this is how it was implemented on Windows last time I used Windows. The XFCE implementation is much simpler - it simply sets up the disk suspending image (basically dumping all RAM to swap and making sure the system knows how to "boot from hibernation") and then suspends to RAM - if you then run out of power, you're in a setup where you can plug in and wake up from hibernation.
Debian XFCE, your reliability king.
They do make a nice combination, don’t they? By the time each new Debian version gets released, XFCE tends to have significant improvements. With luck, perhaps Debian 13 will incorporate these Wayland features in its XFCE live ISO in the coming months.
pretty sure they're going to have a Legion Go S(team) and a Legion Go X(box). They might also include a Legion Go W(indows) and a Legion Go B(arebones). Wouldn't be surprised at all.
tbf about the opensuse YQPkg, most DEs already have a fancy software manager. Also most software managers don't allow downloading or at least searching for dependencies I think, I can't find any info on this though. Great video as always btw!
Thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed it. What I meant is that YaST is already technical based so making more technical stuff isnt going to get new users. It is true that GNOME and KDE have their own stores but I believe they are the only DEs that have a store. The other stores are distro specific like Ubuntu, Mint, PopOS, etc have stores but not related to their DEs as for example getting Cinnamon doesnt bring in the Mint store. I think it is okay to make a custom distro store either based on GNOME's or KDE's or making their own because neither of these DE options are 100% ideal. I do think GNOME's is probably closest.
xfce 4.20 huh nice 😄
I was so hyped when Solos was started.
And then Ikey pulled the worst stand one could.
Unless Serpent is managed as an open source project that others can take over, I am not going anywhere near it. I am not reliving another Solus/Ikey event .
Hope that xfce laptop lid closed bug finally gets resolved 🙄
Does this mean that xfce could be used with hyprland?
I thought Asahi only had comprehensive support only for m1 and m2? Last time i checked many features were not functional with m3, let alone m4...
I was explaining what Apple Silicon meant, it was not intended as a support claim but I understand that it kind of sounded like that. My bad
I tried Cosmic, not ready but interesting. Going to be good I think
We go to great lengths to prevent the AI access to Makulu users computers and protect the users data, I would happily discuss the setup and where it goes from here. I sent you a message.
As a xfce fan, this is nice. I love how customize it is. Xfce is king. I'm so confuse about yqpkg. I'm gonna check Serpent os but I dont think I will use it execpt if it's realy good. Asahi linux sound like a beer made by the fedora team ngl. I dont like Apple, to me it's too pricy. Having the possibility to put linux on it is great. Steam sales are weard, but he, that cool. Thanks to proton I have a blast gaming on linux. CS is a bit... controversial right now. Makulu will creat skynet. Joke aside, this is creapy and uncanny.
Nice vid
Here is a question for you to answer.
How many times did you use the word also? In yesterday's presentation, I would say too many,
I would guess it is something that you didn't notice the use as a conjunction of paragraphs.
250 is my guess!
58 times if the transcript is accurate
lindoz pfft almost thought we had a return of lindows lmao
It’s either a Linux distro or sleep medication… “you’ll LinDoz off right to sleep “
4:20 pun😂 classic
XFCE is King
Nope that's KDE but XFCE is good for sure.
if memory serves, solus will eventually be build on top of serpentos
That’s what the plan is but that’s probably a year away so that’s why I referred to them as separate distros
XFCE is my daily driver and my biggest issue with it is stability. I have a gnome session purely so i can boot into it to fix whatever went wrong with XFCE. Its not an all the time thing but still annoying when i get dropped at a black screen
💚 Opensuse
afaik, Xfce has been around longer than X11 😎
Not quite, X11 was first released in 1987 whereas Xfce was first released in 1997
1:05 we're getting weed jokes with our Linux news now? 😂
if there is a chance for memes, I'm all in :D
Asahi doesn't support M4 yet to the best of my knowledge.
You’re probably right, I was not thinking about that
I thought solus will be based on serpent os when that ever leaves heavy development
That’s what the plan is but that’s probably a year away so that’s why I referred to them as separate distros
Asahi only supports M1 and M2 family chips! M3 and M4 are not supported yet.
I was explaining what Apple Silicon meant, it was not intended as a support claim but I understand that it kind of sounded like that. My bad
The only gripe that I have with XFCE is that it's ugly. Because lightweight does not mean it has to be ugly. They should ask the GNOME designers team to help them with the design. It could be both lightweight and good UI design.
That's just the default theme. If you don't like it, rice it. That's what it's all about. And it looks fine by me, there are worse looking DEs!
I’m going to be building my first pc in a few weeks when the parts arrive, I currently use a MacBook Pro, iPhone and ps5. I am very tempted to use Linux on my new pc but because it will be partly for gaming, partly to hobby, what OS would ppl recomend? Im currently thinking mint or cachy. But im open to anything anyone suggests, I might even go for windows on a drive so I can play my games on steam through that 🍻
I recommend trying Ubuntu or something based on Ubuntu like Linux Mint, Zorin OS, or one of the flavors of Ubuntu. I made a video about getting started with Linux and explain why Ubuntu or something based on it and an overview of why each of the other options to consider. ruclips.net/video/WvR-6CVI-Mc/видео.html Maybe this will help. With more details, the info might change. I think CachyOS is interesting but I wouldnt call it beginner friendly so if you want to try it just keep that in mind.
@ thanks heaps, yeah I think cache is arch based, so much more in depth, but I’m thinking it might be the best way to go because of that, may as well go all out so I don’t try and take the easy way out 😂😉👊 but thanks I’ll check the video for sure! 😊🍻
You can game on steam through Linux with great performance with valve's proton. Nothing with kernel level anti-cheat will run though.
Personally I recommend debian with whatever desktop environment you like so that it practically never breaks and a windows 10 LTSC/11 virtual machine for the work software you'll inevitably be unable to replace.
Allow me to be the devil on your shoulder: moving to Arch-based distros has been a lot of fun for me, I’ve had a lot of fun with vanilla Arch and EndeavourOS. If you’re mainly looking for a gaming-focused experience, Bazzite is popular for a reason.
Good luck, and have fun getting into this awesome hobby!
Thanks guys! Lots for me to look into 😊🍻
Toy Boat
In my opinion it’s relevant because Apple Silicon is awesome and MacBooks are very good laptops. I know people like to dump on Apple products, and I understand where they’re coming from, but not recognizing that they occasionally make good products is the equivalent of the fanboys not realizing when they are making garbage moves.
I daily an MBP and I’m very fond of my iPhone. So I might be biased. Who knows.
Cheers.
22:14 Lenovo made in china too
I always loved OpenSUSE's branding and YaST, as well as their approach to offer the choice between stable and rolling. But good lord, their "patterns" are like package spaghetti that is difficult to keep track of and just makes it a living nightmare to try to keep your system free of unnecessary bloat. Also, it's preconfigured to always install recommended dependencies, which makes the issue worse.
just hope XFCE stays 'simple' and doesnt go down the insane KDE route., its great, but not for me
LIGHT UP YOUR DAY WITH THIS RELEASE - I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE, MY GOOD SIR
I light up my day every day
opensuse great distro, awful package management, zypper is garbage, if you run discover with kde, it will actually break your system in the long run, sad for such a great distro, which there could be more and better support for kde discover etc and an easier nvidia driver installation.
Are you talking about Tumbleweed, Slowroll, or Leap? Personally, I don't think zypper is garbage. It's not as fast as pacman, sure, but it's definitely more capable than dnf in my experience. Regarding KDE Discover-yeah, I get your frustration. I avoid it because it can indeed cause issues. For NVIDIA drivers, I agree that the process could be more streamlined.
Zypper is a very good product, when you compare it to pacman or apt or to dnf. Zypper may not be the fastest, but for a tyro, it is great.