Pakistan: Victim or exporter of terrorism? | Head to Head
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- "They deluded themselves in believing that they were allies. Actually, they were not," says former Director-General of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lt. General Asad Durrani, commenting on Pakistan's rocky relationship with the United States since they allied in the "War on Terror".
In this episode of Head to Head, Mehdi Hasan challenges General Durrani on whether Pakistan is fighting or fuelling international terrorism.
We explore the nation's role as a US ally in the "War on Terror", and investigate claims that it has been backing the Afghan Taliban, whilst its offshoot, the Pakistani Taliban, wages a brutal insurgency at home.
Is Pakistan a rogue state? Or is it stuck between a rock and a hard place? And what role should the military play in a democratic Pakistan?
Joining this discussion are:
• Dr Farzana Shaikh, associate fellow at Chatham House and author of Making Sense of Pakistan
• Declan Walsh, Pakistan Bureau chief for the New York Times
• Shazadi Beg, a human rights barrister and Pakistan specialist
What do you think? Post your thoughts in the comments below.
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I'm an Indian but i am really impressed with this man. He's confident, controlled, patient and skilful. They way he handled the issues and replied is really magnificent. Even if he's my enemy or in my opponent's team, he deserves my respect. Respect from India Sir.
You are one good man.
No doubt He is extreme trained person
Yeah... He burnt kabul. Please respect him for that. What's more important? Is it what/how are person speaks or what a person does?
This world will never be at peace while leaders put morality behind their own goals.
Amazing and very disappointing that you respect him for his demeanor.
Respect for u...
The general is just a soldier speaking in purely sterile terms about what's happening and what he and his country did. You don't think American generals are sitting around talking in sterile terms of "collateral damage" about the millions of Iraqis and Afghans they've allowed to be killed.
Gen. Durrani is blunt and thats what is hated by the WEST
WHO CARES ???????????????????????????????????
Yes
5 years later and US is out of Afghanistan, TTP has been destroyed. I would say well done Pakistan.
@Manohar Gajananan That's what you like to believe but only if wishes were horses .. in the meanwhile, Galwan valley is lost and 40k Chinese soldiers are in the area. It's time you worry about your own backyard. US is gonna use you as a bait.
@Manohar Gajananan @Manohar Gajananan Well you should envy us for the brilliant timing of our foreign policy choices over the last 7 decades. We are not sitting in anyone's lap, is that the best you can come up with??? 😘 You cannot bring to knees two military super powers in a span of 4 decades by sitting in laps 😐 its called 'executing a cunning military strategy' very very successfully.
As for you self-reliance, we know it too, how Nehru ran to UN when tribals and forces crossed Baramulla on their way to Srinagar in '48. How the same Nehru literally begged the Yanks to send its pilots and planes to bomb the Chinese in' 62. The assistance from Soviet navy and KGB in '71 and US and Israeli assistance in Kargil. What self reliance, han? 😁 You couldn't get rid of Chinese in Doklam, now they are asking Bhutan for land swaps just a couple of days ago. They are already encroaching in Ladakh, Sikkim and Arunachal Pardesh, you Chicken neck is almost in the claws of the Dragon while the US is giving you a soft massage on your lower back and your traditional ally Russia is mum despite your defense minister's visit and yet you have the audacity of talking about giving 20-years to Pakistan??? Lolz what happened to your last deadline that ended in 2015?????? 🤣 Stop Sabre rattling and be real for once. India is isolated from all corners in its neighborhood 😉
@Homeless Guy Bro i don't know where are you from but the situation is good now i know there are a little bit threats but not like that a decade ago. Watch the videos of travellers who travel in Pakistan then talk about this topic
True
@@Vladmir-Putin For a person from a starving country you speak very merrily.
Gotta hand it to him. The balls on this dude. He's like a Pakistani Tywin Lannister!
A character on game of thrones
You said it right sir! You feel hate mixed with a little respect for this guy.
That's like the most underrated comment on this video dude
😂😂😂
Dont insult tywin by comparing him to this idiot.
when you do not sugarcoat the Truth. It becomes ugly.
what was ugly?
Truth IS ugly.
Truth is Ugly !
Always been curious since i Was a kid and sometimes i was diggin so deep that once i discovered the truth it was so ugly i wished i could go back in the past and still be ignorant
22:31 Thug life
General: "As long as there is plenty of confusion in this room, im quite happy"
I do not understand what that sentence means. Can you tell me, please?
@Zai Haha, thanks man.
Objective achieved!
boss life of isi
I love his reply he is genius
This person sitting is too clever. he was the mastermind of ISI. and what he predicts is now happening. He is a good player and knows the game.
No no no pak army has 1000s inteligent officers we proud our ISI
Isi is our pride
This general destroyed the interviewer.
@Farjad Khan Oh, Israel is gonna capture Pakistan. What BS, and if a country thinks killing its own children is collateral. Then you're delusional to another level.
Gen. Asad Durrani is narrating an indictment against our country which will be used in the future. He isn't clever, he is an idiot. As are you.
Did the general really know that the camera was on?
I should really appreciate him for his boldness.
Best ever evidence of state sponsored terrorism. I am shocked to see that this video is public and open for everyone but there is absolutely no meaninful action from any country or international institution like the UN .
@@BOCrorepati Know history of world spy games and country's interests ...........
@@BOCrorepati cuz they are themselves doing the same thing. grow up man
@@BOCrorepati when he says pakistan did this then its an evidence but when he says everyone did it then ull say its a lie lol
@@usmanali7222 exactly bro , as a Sikh we thank imran khan for Kartarpur remember it was modi who wasn't happy
let the man speak, why did they invite him if he was going to interrupt him after 5 seconds of every question.
anchorperson is aggressive
He was worried that God know if he let him speak for few seconds more than he will reveal some dark secrets about states
@@ammarsaleemgurmani he is basically a chootiya
@@dourbeen The anchorperson defended Islam in Oxford Debate chamber, check it out......Thats juts how he is...aggressive...do check out his other guests where he confronts many other people the same way
@@huzaifakhalil916 know his stance on Kashmir.. He tries to color as atrocities happening in Indian Kashmir are happening in Pakistani Kashmir as well which is an outright lie.
I think the Jurnalist and the General are not talking on the same intellectual level : the jurnalist's minde is roughted in the apperences, the General talks about deep reality hidden from the public due to political reasons.
Michaël Paradjian I absolutely agree with you! When a Pakistani Journalist survived the shooting and accused army, ISI responded that they do not leave a job unfinished 😂
nomikzoo They’re getting paid to lie against Pakistan. That’s something we don’t see on the media rather we see a cow giving birth or a chicken being run down by a vehicle as to what they call “information”.
true his play on words and confidence is like none other.
truely he is the former DG of the best intelligence agency in the world.
Samir Phuddi Exactly brother, if you look closely at those oppositions situated by the front bench, you’ll find that they have one agenda which is to demonise the Pakistani intelligence services whereas they particularly avoid discussing the uprising issues created by third parties who have occupied the region.
I believe then he would also justify the killings of 50 people in the recent christchurch mosque shooting. And for that matter i think he would also side with the israeli in their war against palestine as both the israeli and isi represented by durrani share the same ideology of bombing innocent lives and terming it as collateral damage.
Today this interview comes out to be 100% true.
Pakistan said it out in the open but US kept funding Pakistan. The US is extremely stupid for this.
@@arraikcruor6407 No. There are not stupid.
He never lie
@@arraikcruor6407 Pakistan and US cant have the same interests. Pakistan wants a stable afghanistan whereas US only wanted to come and kill terrorists and then go. If in 10 yrs terrorists will come up again then they will blame it on Pakistan and come invade again. Pakistan cant let that happen. They want a afghanistan that is stable so we dont have to worry about our border with them as much.
@@mnt4911 lol after losing in Afghanistan and Vietnam i doubt youre serious they get outsmart by peasants
How can Pakistan be blamed for the shitstorm the US made and then left us to deal with 20 years ago....
Only one thing I want to say what does not done by CIA.MI6.Mosad,Khad and RAW.but fingers always been pointing to ISI Pakistan is in between of enemies.secondly Afghans are brother but only one question or suggestion if they will sincere with their country no one can do anything to them but unluckily they are not and start to blame Pakistan for everything same as like India.i like the way General has spoken at least truth.
Nabeel khan afridi you have enough army power to start a ww3 for God's sake. Just kill these pests and start investing on human development and other areas that matter.
Nabeel khan afridi...oye halkat! Ja key namaz pad...yeh cheezein teri akal ki bus nahin hai
A true secret agency agent, they act like crazy but they are the smartest people to ever exist.
Ayesha S. Yeah GumNaam Sipahe
I was not expecting him to be that honest, to the point and straight forward. He is telling the reality as it stands, nothing's wrong in whatever he is saying but pure truth. Give him some credit for not being diplomatic or hypocrite ! Mehdi is different in front of him, getting all closed answers. Its the general's Intelligence !
+Feroze Danish which reality you are talking about ..the same reality which is uttered by your ISI chief...I have realised it way back ...and no one's a kid here just because you don't have a hair on head and I look young in my dp doesn't make a kid or it doesn't make you old...why don't you stfu...and accept want he says....first man to actually confirm taliban is there creation...for you its kashmir for me it's my place it's my india...for you it may be baloochistan or karachi..but for me they are humans who have lost so much In there life...it may be a game for you people to create jihadis sucide bomber and use your relgion to prpogate...which only happens in Pakistan..it am sorry my friend i am done here...u can choose to be denial
+Feroze Danish oh I see...I can see how christans became your cousin ..hahahahah....you are not only ignorant but dumb...I can how your one faith one relgion agenda working with Shias sunnis ahemdeis yezedis ...we have more Muslims then anywhere in the world ..we understand situation better then you..you can keep on denying because it's your job to deny ....qhat you read is poison...your faith tells you ..you are superior...which you not ...but still I fold my I say sorry my friend or stranger I rest my case here..what you think and do shows whose a kid in here
+Feroze Danish your government doesn't have money ...to feed terrorist inside india all I said is about kashmir...okay we are wrong right ..why is Iran angry why is UAE angry why is Afghanistan angry why...now tell us it's because of india..they are Muslims too real Muslims not like you converted Hindu muslim...why don't they treat you well..wht are you not given lil bit respect ..I will tell you why ...your country was created on sympathy..it lived on sympathy and cry ...but now sympathy has gone cause it's been 70 years ..it happy we seprated...it wouldn't have able to tolerate people like you...happy independence day..now dude I have work to do and prepare for our 15th August..take care hope the Allah that you preach give you little more brodness in terms of thinking and brain
ADITYA VIKRAM SINGH who told you Iran and UAE are not happy with us or dont treat us well ? we have very gd terms with both of them, there can be reasons in relation to trade competitiveness but nothing else. Wake up and stop believing you silly media, Its teaching you the most impossible of all the things. You are ruined ! in terms of diplomatic relations Pakistan is much better than India. Converted Indians ? huh have you even ever bothered to read Pakistan's geneology ? you are still living in 1947..... lol you are a kid ! we got independence because we fought for it and we stood our grounds. We made happen one of the histories largest migrations only driven by a passion to be termed as Pakistan. Our struggle made it happen to initiate people's movement collectively by an unthinkable size of population . Read some books, grow your wisdom and get expose to International politics and relations. research history yourself ...... dont sit like a potato infront of a tv and let it destroy your analytical thinking.
ADITYA VIKRAM SINGH I dont have to write essays .... for what ? with kids like you i dont care whatever you think or say ... carry on !
watching this after Taliban seized Kabul August 15,2021
Same
Yup
@@ahmedawan512 pakistani taliban and Afghanistan taliban not same.pakistan violating islamic rules.
@@Mehedihasan-yt6mx Oh yes and Afghanistan Taliban are saints (rolls eyes)
@@Mehedihasan-yt6mx ok bacha baazi Taliban 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don't ever try to judge me, Dude
You don't know what the fcuk I ve been through
Best describes Pakistan
They pursued a self defeating policy all their existence and now that they're defeated they're proud of it. These isi and army generals take tax money and buy real estate in London and New York and leave the country as soon as they retire.
The way he answered the questions is the most Skillful manner .... yes of course
''If you cannot ride two horses at the same time, then you have no business in circus''
Pakistan suffers its own smartness,always. Its own cleverness. They lost kashmir because they invaded it. They jumped the gun. It would have come to them legally,but they got eager and greedy.
@@induchopra3014 pakistan suffers bcz of liberals and weak mentality of hindu ancestors
If I can summarise the 47 minutes of this interview, it is this: " Pakistan is a complex beast; please do not over simplify it."
What about America, Israel etc.
The life of poor Aghanistani and Pakistani is worthless while puissant of these countries are behind your reach.
@@MaherAliArshad Whataboutism spotted.
@@houseplant1016There was no link of Pakistan in 9/11 attack but America still held their ally responsible for that although not directly but indirectly they also want to avenge Pakistan for his close ties with Talibans. Due to war on terror 70000 Pakistanis are killed. US carried drone strikes without any restrictions in Pakistans and they did not helped Pakistan against terrorist organizations like TTP instead they supported India and TTP influence in Pakistan's western front. We got attacked by TTP for supporting America and got attacked by America for having close ties with Afghan Talibans. We have never helped Talibans against US instead we helped America a lot. We also suffered a severe economical crises due to US war. What can you aspect from Pakistan who was facing casualities and economical crises can entertain war anymore and of course we did all possible measures to end it. Now we are supporting Talibans just to counter terrorism to secure durand line and western border front. Ofcourse we are beneficiary of peace in Afghanistan more than any other country.
After looking at the sitauation of Iraq,Syria,Libya,Afghanistan ...................Peoples of Pakistan may be thankfull to their intelligence.....
Well said
I thought we didn't know how to play the democracy game, That the expandable people on the screen are not the ones actually supposed to be running the show. But the fact that we're not Syria yet after dancing with the devil for decades shows that the ISI do know how to play the democracy game too well
Always and we have trust on our Army and intelligence Agancy
@@aqsabatool1718thats why you have repeated martial laws. You support it
@@aqsabatool1718 I am taking back my words, and you should too 😂😂
This interview was taken in 2015 and now in 2019 situation in Pakistan and Afghanistan has developed exactly as he said USA asking Pak for help in talks with taliban and TTP and other anti Pak organizations eliminated...
All self made.
True
@@vijayaditya2003 jao America ki gand chato 😂😂
Pakistan is very smart and cunning. Most Islamic countries are under rubbel post 9/11 but Pakistan through its cunningness has played all sides. Afghanistan will become a proxy state of Pakistan where the Pakistanis can further counteract India
Royal Zak pakistan js so smart his pm charsi niyazi has to beg every day.
No country play single games...so what if Pakistan has successfully defeat the world establishment. ..why r u people angry..
Don't justify killing of innocent people as per your quran killing of one person is like killing of whole humanity so where are your morals now
@@souravpandey8361 i m not justying i m just trying to say in the battlefield some people would die
Pakistan's economy is in shambles, how has it successfully defeated the world establishment? they're corrupt individuals who take foreign aid money and put it in the military, instead of things that benefit society, like schools.
I would say Pakistan gave 2 fingers to America in the end.
You haven't defeated world establishment, You have defeated your own country. That's smart mate.
His calming attitude prove him his winning the battle
Yeah we have won the fight....till now !
Lost 90000 above people...but now we have won...
Take a break..... Diplomacy and stratergies never end
@Muhammad Talha how????
Winning the battle? You drunk?
@@ravinitwind there is almost zero terrorism in Pakistan now.
DNA of Pakistan.
Being a Kashmiri I could understand this.
Love you.
Pakistan Zendabaad.
@@royalloyalty8248 na Kavi jinda tha na Kavi abad Hoga.
@WT clips Haan Bhai tera desh me electricity Kaha SE Aya phone charge dene ke liya. Lol
@@GameControlYT aur vaccines bhi😂
@WT clips india ew? 😂 Khudki halaat dekho pehle chutiyo
Its 2019 and Pakistan didn't failed TTP is destroyed and people saying we will be a failed state by 2015 are asking Pakistan to help bringing peace in Afghanistan
Once Pakistan ISI defeated Russia with the help of Americans. now Pakistan ISI will defeat Americans with the help of Americans. Late Gen Hameed Gul r.i.p
Maaz Khan 🏆🇵🇰
The general is Very bold and straight forward he didn't make any lame excuses or tried to get away with it. One must clearly understand that intelligence agency has to perform and execute there task in order to safeguard their country's interest no matter what they have to do. No intelligence agency in the world play's a fair role and someone's need's to punch the anchor in the face for interrupting he was trying to be an smartass he has no idea how hard it's to take decisions when it comes to the nation.
Durrani asked one Question and no one has the answer that is ; 4 Air planes simultaneously hijacked in USA , flown for 45 minutes in the USA , and there was no Air borne by US Air force until they struck at pin point targets ... How it could be possible ? ( so in other words CIA killed more then 3000 US Civilians just to have an justified excuse to attack on Afghanistan, and have control on Pakistan )
I have a lot of respect for the host, he's an incredibly competent journalist usually. However, this was the worst performance from him I've ever seen - he was made to look quite basic and at times just espousing a Murdoch empire view of things - it did not reflect well.
That is one true warrior of a General . . . . Hats Off to you sir from India 🇮🇳
Thankyou bro
Finally, Mehdi got its match...
Hahahahahahah finally😂
Loved his cool
Mehdi's match. El anyone could match him. Many people have outmatched multiple times
The person, General Durrani, knows he can get away in front of the Pakistani court
@Lute The Mage lol I have seen right wingers and they were sh*tting in their pants infront of Mehdi
And finally the match of his match won the match.
General came to this interview not to explain anything about the work of ISI... BUT to confuse the whole audiance....
This is how it works with intelligence agencies...
You idiots are proud that the ISI literally destroyed Pakistan (by supporting Taliban).
@@satyapriyadarshi93 No it didn't ISI supporting Taliban triggered the RAW, CIA,and whatever that cheap afghan agency is Pakistani Taliban were influenced by Taliban not same as them. He basically calculated the damage that the other side would want to or could do. And this is a old video he was right ISI and Army eventually washed the Pakistani Taliban and won. While USA want to quite Afghanistan now
@@satyapriyadarshi93 😂 we know
@@satyapriyadarshi93 Pakistanis are proud of Taliban because USA surrendered in afghanistan
@pranav kumar ISI has been supplying weapons to Taliban well that's an open secret. Just like RAW supplying weapons to BLAand TTP (Tahreek-e-Taliban Pakistan) or CIA supplying weapons to YPG and ISIS along with many more. What is bad in this doesn't every agency does this. Don't come over here with these open secrets and tell them to me as if they would surprise me or I would deny them.
He is being honest.
Hey!,... Antarctica, my question is that what role did you play in War on terror or any other war? Are u single nation (with an intelligent penguin as ur head) or separate colonies etc.?
@@randomtanker4355 what xD
@@randomtanker4355 lol🤣🤣🤣
General Asad Durrani "Afghanistan is more or less free of foreign occupation "
15/8/2021 Taliban has taken over Kabul, US is asking Taliban time to extract their personnel.
You really gotta applaud For ISI.
And they making an All inclusive government 10:00 Reunify, Re United, Free of Occupation.
Well now the ISI game is backfiring. Taliban is now openly threatening Pakistan with war over the Durrand Line.
Enjoy the mess
General Durrani is a officer and gentlemen a pride of pakistan. A hero
all the intelligence agencies are not saints. they need to achieve their interests some times at higher cost. I am not defending isi, I am not justifying what they did was right. but imagine you are surrounded by powers like russia, china, india, usa and other countries like iran, what is your options?? be iraq or afghanistan or pakistan???
mr burger strike every intelligence agency does the dirty work for their country.
mr burger strike Yes your point is very strong and based on reality. People should really understand it.
Brother of Course be a Powerful Islamic Republic Of Pakistan Long Live Zindabaad
The only thing that prevented Pakistan to be another Iraq or Afghanistan is ISI.
An interest that very harmful for people and other countries is hidden greed ,hatred, and evilness, so think What you say bro,
😳 shocked how much Mehdi interrupted the guest! 90% of the time Durrani never even finished a full sentence!
That’s “journalism“
Yes because every word coming our of Durrani mouth is astonishingly outrageous. How a country sponsor terrorism for another country and play the role of victim in the entire world.
Akhil Dabral But that’s how things work in reality.Every other intelligence agency in the world works like that
Mehr I Hassan had made up his mind to act like that before the program.
@@TheQasimtufail it's not just about the intelligence , Durrani said that people of Pakistan idolized Osama which is quite shocking how Islam encourage people to become Jihadist and kill innocent people. He shameless normalised killing of 30,000 pakistan in the name of collateral damage. I just can't imagine how deep Islam and Pakistan are sunk in Terrorism.
Sitting in my bedroom, 5 years later, I'm shivering while looking at this display. This is one man defending his view point against a packed room, with almost every person biased against him. How he was able to remain calm is beyond me.
I second u.....i got really emotional....but what a composure he had........impressive😎
Face the reality.....when there is question of survival ,each country's agencies will do the same ,,,even worse....
That's the issue with fanatics 🇵🇰 in Pakistan. Irony is they feel proud about it.
@@7rajcan he defended each of his views. If you want to look at a fanatic, watch Mehdi's interview with an RSS leader
@@uzairahmed4832 That's the problem with you guys..you don't know which is legitimate. He is not RSS leader. He is BJP. And he didn't talk about killing Indians. You guys always are illiterate can't understand Quran also properly. That's why u all should go to good school first. Then we can talk about other things.
If You ask CIA director today to say the truth only the truth, he will say exactly the same thing as this Guy.
The only issue is that white people are very hypocrite and manipulator.
They will play good guy while all are bad guys specially Russia kgb
white people ythink you are the liars manipulators violent, go figure
@@NormaHernandez-pi3zp well we figured it out in iraq. no need to do that twice. where are the chemical weapons that we were promised
SUGAR DOLLAR DADDY BBC
Why is it an “issue that white people are very hypocrite iCal ?
Racist much?
The General Has Got Some Balls😎
ISI💪
Pakistan is a sovereign country....💪💪
We don't want to fight for US...
How deep are the thoughts of this General 😮. Now, i came to know that why ISI is on the top of the list of best Intelligence agencies👍
Plz explain...I'd seriously like to know.
Plz explain...I'd seriously like to know.
@@scorpionking3427 what???
@@dantech3865 what thoughts of the general inspired you?
Durrani is simply badass 😂 Logic is indeed the highest institution and he left the host speechless through it. Geopolitics aren't based on "feelings".
So you want to say you are using Islam as a tool and don't care about Islam? Bcz as I know religion is a feeling.
@Johnny Buoy I want my servants were as brainwashed as you. Only my dog is
Waddia S. I know I’m a little late lol but honestly he exposed the reality of what’s going on, clearly he more than hinted that the Pakistan Taliban are controlled by outside occupiers who want to decimate Pakistan from inside. Anyone who can’t apprehend this is really lost even if they haven’t had a chance to play.
@@shivanithakur4240 why u indians can't mind ur own business? I mean whats ur problem?
@@shivanithakur4240 Give me 100 lives and i will sacrifice it for Pakistan Blindly, Fearlessly, Happily and thats what every Pakistani thinks and does, sorry if this is called brainwashing but this is how we are.
Loved the way the general maintained his cool and respect for his honesty.
After listening to General Durrani I thank God for ISI. Pakistan is in safe hands.
Yes you are! because they didn't stop killing your children in school bombings. You should be very proud about that
@@7rajcan but stopped over a 100 plots but thanx for them Pakistan has become more peaceful now
@@7rajcan talk so much. If you can do better, do it. Nato. No action talk only huh
Safe hands with butter finger🤣
SAFE HANDS WITH BOMBINGS EVERY OTHER WEEK. LOL
JUST A BEGGING BOWL NATION.
He knows his stuff😊 i always want to listen a man like that
Everyone want to listen people like that
I like this man. Calm and collected.
I am Learning a Lot. Yes Now I Agree Pakistan Is a Very Special Country.
Frank R so pakistan kept the terrorists going after america created it.
What point people are missing is that ALL intelligence agencies do black deeds and decisions are made according to objective and situation not "morality".
smart guy
Why Indians are so trying hard to show bad image of Pakistan
Go get a room
Gamer Zzzz well bro its your genral not our what a joke
Never been more impressed by any other interviewee. The General single-handedly outplayed Mehdi and every single person in the audience and it's quite obnoxious when the other person is too smart for you that you bring in 'the sarcasm' to rein in the pragmatic sense because you couldn't come up with logic... Disappointed Mehdi.
Looking at the comment section, General You Won It 👍
Anum Elahi Exactly the same i feel
But in ground reality you lost. The severe blow to isi and ripped apart ttp. Look lady the warfare has changed now. Isi planned to earn money nothing else
@@charitpandey7714 and raw is buzy in planning of destruction and killings of innocent people raw is the real force behind the ttp terrorits
@@ibrarrafique8340 like Germany and Japan are sharing borders same raw is doing naa. Hasi aati h yaar tm logon pe kyaa khate ho. Koi nai vaise bhi army tnhari chutiyaa kaat rahi h katwaao. Hme kyaa. We are rich people.
Won what ? The country is in flames and an economy where no one wants to invest. Find a healthier hobby miss.
What a genius, he had predicted 5 years ago, which is proven recently. So at the end, ISI won again.
Isi always wins until endia will be wiped out
@@jattjamesbond1122 😂 🤣 keep it up, soon Pakistan gonna come under radar for these silly things. You are already Grey listed, black gonna come soon ,may follow severe economic sections and defamation all over the world. Just wait and see, Pakistan gonna be in deep trouble ahead. Now US agencies and western media can't hide the truth from the world and you are already in Chinese lap, may be pakistan will be destabilised to core or take over by china as china will help and interfere more and more. You have no friend except china, and they are on expansion mode.
@@savesoil4782 everything comes at price.But US here in this region is absolutly not welcomed
@@savesoil4782 Indians are best in day dreaming, recently you had built Serena Hotel Kabul 5th floor in air 🤣🤣
@@danielmitchell5814 😂 keep the Comedy going
Disappointed in Mehdi. He could not maintain objectivity through the interview. He let his emotions get the better of him . Yes, the generals revelations were appalling , but he stated things as is ! Did not for one min, elaborate on his opinion of how things were or how things should have been carried out. Ironically, the general displayed objectivity that is desired and rather expected from a journalist of Mehdi's callibre.
Grudgingly admit this guy is brilliant. The best head to head episode I have ever seen. Finally mehdi meets his match.
That's called ISI
M D he is very smart but that was his failure. For him all game but someone like Trump can upend all his games. The day Trump takes america out no one will give whit about pakistana and its geolocation.
@@wisedesi442 am an Indian as well dude. I hate this guy's guts technically. Look at him weasel out of taking on any blame OR admitting any mistake. That's Pakistani foreign policy for you. Tired of Indian diplomats wantingto be correct and morally upright all the time. The end should lead to creative means.
@@musheahmedtanoli23 or someone too crafty /cunning /evil . As a citizen, would be very wary of dealing with someone as slippery.
M D I understand bro that you are indian and appreciate his guts but I felt as interview went on he sounded stupid such as calling killing kids collateral damage. I mean you cannot talk like that in public and call it guts. He basically accepted ISI killed those kids.
I can see that I can learn a million things from this man . He has taught much while not saying much but still saying enough haha.
“ if you cannot ride two horses, you have no business to join the circus “ that’s concluded the ISI approach. Proud of our unsung officers. They clearly sees the bigger picture which normal people like me or Mehdi cannot understand
People like you definitely can't...😄😆😆
@@syedasif4760 @Naqashsafder You both cannot even ride one donkey ))))))
The honesty is so surprising.
infiniteinfiniteinfi Yesx, honesty is in very short supply in Pakistan.
Porus25
And the west too.
***** or u got big shameless attitude !!!
infiniteinfiniteinfi ganja mangoge coke denge kashmir mangoge thok denge
Syed Fahad Ali Yes but why 1971? I also like Kargil, though I understand why you do not.
At least in India rape is severely frowned upon. Whereas in the Islamic republics of ISIL and Pakistan, the rape of thousands and thousands of captured 6-12 year olds is a religious duty.
And if the girls don't comply, you kill them.
After all. bacchabazee is an internationally known Pakistani custom. Which is exported by Pakistan the world over. Thus the UK is reeling from thousands and thousands of tiny girls in the Midlands who have been captured and used as sex slaves by gangs and gans of PAKISTANI men.
So much so that even Muslim MPs in Britain are admitting that that is Pakistani culture.
Lt. General Asad Durrani showing us how civilians do not matter in these geopolitics games. the reality
This remark was unsettling. That’s reality but it hits hard.
Geopolitics of Pakistan
That's the true "élite" (criminal scum) attitude. Their goal is a plantation planet but they will always be at each others throats. The Jihadis terrorists and gangsters are just useful idiots. I think this "élite" should fight each other and we can watch it on TV
When generals take billions from US,digest it, become billionnaires, richer than even US generals,civilians don't matter. Its sheer arrogance . Of a corrupt man. Noone has ever shown him the mirror. And his ugly face. He is so proud of his smartness.
Where is the leadership of TTP? Under NATO's umbrella in Afghanistan
Exactly General Duranni said it loud and clear, anyone who doesn’t understand is lost
Exactly
Also ISIL is on the umbrella of NATO and set it up now when they lose the war on so called terror .........
This aged quite well 😏
Lol I am surprised at people here in Australia displaying shock at Pakistanis celebrating Taliban's victory. It's like what did you expect. Pakistan openly supports the Taliban.
@@arraikcruor6407 All over the south asia billions do not just in Pakistan.Actually history talks here.
Shehzadi Baig also deserves an applause. Great talk
Daymn general Asad durrani literally played the whole house alone 😂👍
@Manohar Gajananan Hah stupid
@Manohar Gajananan
You are a pagan Hindu dalit!
It's your biggest mistake!
@Khalid Kala wheres the incompetent dude? I aint passionate bout any political party anywhere but logically look at it. Since modi came international relations have had a massive boost and the space achievements have been plenty. Now they may or may not be completely for the modi govt but India has only being developing steadily if not quickly ever since 2000 till whenever. Incompetence means failures which could affect the entire nation like massive debts or bad reputation......Like incompetence?
@@SuleimanTheMagnificent71618 isn't that a racist comment ?
Major Gaurav:
If you say 2+2=4 i will agree
But Pakistani says 2+2=117 i am so confuse
Meanwhile Asad Durrani " As long as there is plenty of confusion i am quite happy" 😌
"Pakistan is absolute unusual country than any other country" ony a wise Pakistani will understand it bcz Pakistan was made on a purpose and few know that purpose and General said that 😉
Where is the quote, give me the time stamp.
@@LawStudentTill 44:55 ONWARDS
@@aqsahi4514 what purpose?????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
well as a Pakistani I know that it has religious creational purposes!
@@Multigia as if allah signed resolution of Pakistan creation. you guys live in a theocratic country. get out of this stupidity
I wish the moderator would shut up so the man that knows can talk not the ones that theorize
I genuinely liked the questions, but never get to hear the answers. As soon as the spy starts giving an answer he gets shouted down by the host. I understand shouting is great for ratings but some of us really want to learn something. This was a totally wasted opportunity to find out what is going on in Afghanistan.
Agreed. I hate it when hosts talk over their guests without letting them complete their thoughts. A few times he took him on other tangents trying to admit to his view of things.
loved the last argument for the ummah, Love you general. We all are ISI. Allah hu Akbar
This is one of the best interview I have seen online!
I loved the way he changed the atmosphere of the room.
Yes. Silence. They are truly listening to every word he says. They understand he has next level insight
True. From making fun of him to take him seriously.
Well he shares the same attitude towards the civilian casualties as the US policy makers, but he should get credit for being blunt and honest about the role of spy agencies around the world...
Narcissists rule. No Hero worship please. We have to stop glorifying these criminals
@@Isochest i thought so 8 years ago, but came to realisation that in fact Pak Army is full of criminals and is ran like a gang of thugs with no regard to human life.
All the top generals care about is making money at any cost, literally at any cost even if that involves selling Nukes to any higher bidder.
Great General! You stood on your grounds like a braveheart. You are indeed deserve a huge round of applause. Well done.
Eagle Eyes He is nothing but a rat and cowrd .Give him a taste of his own medicine see how long he going to last !
@@nickinsaf7440 u indians cant do that... he fot u by tha balls 🤣🤣🤣
@@usmanali7222 ask him if ISI is better or RAW is better. You will start crying and never forget 1948, 1965, 1971, 1999 and yes capture of siachin glacier.
@@ivanlucas3625 you lost 50% of Kashmir in 1948. You failed to get Lahore in 65.
I was literally amazed by this general. such a blunt and straight forward personality did the double game with America and it's more than 40 allies really raise a question on the credibility of America and its allies 😂
US is superpower
Pakistan a failed state
as much as I think the general is despicable with regards to his realpolitik, I have to admire his honesty. Better the devil you know than the saint that you don't.
I don’t think it’s despicable given the context. At that level of abstraction you are dealing with sociopaths. It’s life
Wow! the naked truth.
This interviewer talks too much. I'd much rather hear more from the General, stop interrupting him. Jeeeez
Exactly Mehdis nothing but another puppet owned by the establishment which currently occupies Palestinian soil.
I think everyone is confused now Gen Sb u nailed it...
one thing i dont like is that mehdi hasan always interrupts him while hes talking, he is 70+ years old, let him finish what he is saying! there are many things which he meant something else and believed by ppl something else.
He tried his best with panalist n audians to b harsh on himn tried to prove him wrong but badly faild
+Abdur Rehman Mazhar
isi is murtad
+Abdullah Ibn Saba Hassan Ibn Saba was murtad
yes, he is murtad like porkistan
+Maz Peters your lack of knowledge and highly ignorant comments also says it all...have u ever thought that the ling he wrote could be typo mistake? go spread ur hate somewhere else and dont hang out the smartass on youtube as it makes u look like a low life
not a single answer has been given with clear meaning......
giving answer means that u r telling them ur strategy....
his answer were like true intelligence officer.!!!
ISI is just amazing
it seems the old man is interviewing the young brown man. he is quite annoying to keep interrupting and trying so hard to dorminate his own idea rather than being neutual and objective listener and host.
All I can say is what an honest response he gave to all questions, whether they liked the answers he gave or not. Highly intelligent but also diplomatic to the core.
The audience is too keen in trying to accuse the General of being a terrorist himself, given his views. This man, and I am not a Pakistani, has been on the ground, in charge of an intelligence agency which was at that time facing a very, very grave situation. Here he is talking about the absolute realities that had to be done and taken care of. The decisions had to be made, even though some may argue quite rightly that not all were the best of them. Still, as an Indian, I have immense respect for the kind of honesty the general has shown. Mehdi, the panel, the entire audience can try to crack him but the fact remains that he has seen and done it all. The best we can do is try and understand the world from his viewpoint, without prejudice.
thanks for restoring my faith in indians. you’re the first person i have seen that didn’t jump on the hate train. you’re going places bro.
This, Gen. Durrani told the truth whether it was sweet or bitter whether it made him look good or bad, he did not lie and gave his honest assessment and thoughts on these issues. Its not just commendable its incredibly shocking that in this era which is riddled with lies, deceit and propaganda he came on infront of a global audience and laid out his heart.
Pakistan and Durrani did what they had to in a grave situation. Maybe it wasn't moral or justifiable but it was necessary and thats why those actions were taken.
@@uzi6497well I as another Indian completely agree with gen Durani. These audiance and reporters have zero knowledge of ground operations.
General Durrani at its best. Long live Pak
ok terrorist country with athiest leaders of no morality
Morda bad Pakistan.
That's difference between youtube users and deep dark Web users.
The interviewer talks like a common man, unable to understand the bigger game. The General runs the world and knows that no war can be won without making sacrifices.
I quite admire the Gen.for his very frank talk.
But you don't want to criticize him for getting thousands of people killed and calling lives of innocent kids as "collateral damage"? do you? admire him for treating people like objects of his game.
You are missing my point ... i admire him for his guts to own up to his deeds ... im not sitting in judgement of the deeds.
Aseem Varma there is no glory in telling the brutal truth or keeping it as a secret. If there's is anarchy in his country he can kill anyone in day light &he is above law. .so no need of being shy or keep it as a secret. whereas if there's a law and order in a state people try to hide these in fear of being caught /prosecuted. The same happens here pakistani people glorify terrorist in suit like him ...so definitely he is proud of killing children justified by jihadi ideas
+Arslan pak sar zameen lol proud for killing millions of people in afghanistan and thousanda of people in their own country.
Arslan pak sar zameen Lol so if your media tells you Pakistan does nothing you believe in that and call it the reality? Pakistan Supports al Qaeda in Afghanistan that killed millions of people,those were muslims too.Pakistan was hiding osma bin laden who did 9/11 and killed a lots of people.Pakistan does genocide in balochistan and a lots of places.Ofc for a pakistani these are all conspiracies against pakistan lol so Stop living in your dream bubble calling it the reality.
Get any other country’s intelligence agency’s general and try rip them apart with such questions, I doubt anyone would come to such an interview. What ever it is Pakistan is not going to lose ever be it dealing with internal or external threats to the country. Just take a General’s word 45:00.
Pakistan Zindabad 🇵🇰
Spot on comment, the best part was of the interview is 45:00. The only explanation why we are struggling economically, considered a failed state but the strongest muslim country in the world.
Pkmkb
@@adwaitsingh222 tmkb
He is literally justifying terrorism
They already lost half their country. And they are outdone in every possible way by their enemy nation.
this guy is smart and very calm!!!
This is self preservation. Pakistan avoided the Syria, Iraq and Libya situation. It's true, this game is not for the weak hearted. Taliban have taken over Kabul and in the end General Durrani was right. US is out and India is out of Afghanistan.
True that.
still taliban is not ready to accept durand line, still taliban breaks border fencing, still pakistan is a victim of terror attacks (lahore, karachi), so what was your objective?
@@akshay_wakodikar for your information Taliban and Durindline situation now is under control.
And there only just 4 blast in last 6 month.
So situation is much better than past(when terrorism on its peak)
@@akshay_wakodikar Durindline border length is 2056km
At some critical point their is specific border disputes.
But your Ghodi media don't tell what is actually happened
@@naveedshahryar123 under control!!! Why your analyst are discussing this issue..beta saap ko dudh pilaya hai tum logo ne, don't except anything from them
I kinda like this guy, he got some big balls thrr lol
Yes, seems so
Terrorist Head in the guise of Intelligence agency!!
We have to understand without taking sides. Today I learn A Lot About Pakistan. Pakistan is a Very Complicated Country. Oh my God.
wait untill you see mine hihi rrr
@@GhajabiramSriramulu Talking about Pakistan ISI creating terrorists? well let talk about India who created Mukti Bahni back in 1971 who were worse than the modern day Taliban, Who created Baloch liberation army terrorists back in early 1970's? And modern day TTP Indians are trying hard to compete with Pakistan in proxy war but they are lagging behind too much.
WHY ASK QUESTIONS IF THE GUEST IS NOT ALLOWED TO ANSWER THEM!! NEVER AGAIN!!!
The guest is largely speaking the truth, though sad that that is how the state craft is being played all countries. the host is annoying not letting the guest speak completely.
I saw this interview 5 years back and seeing right now. This guy is really smart and know how to play these game. I was against him at that time but yes that was the requirement of that time. Salute to you sir. ISI
Terrible thinking. This guy is justifying blowing up schools, killing 75% of afghanis, supporting terrorist organisation and you are saluting him. Dont know what Pakistanis are tought.
farzana beg is the best.. Al Queda was created by usa and no one talking about it..the same people who are fighting them now.. double standard
this is one of the worst interview conducted by Mehdi Hassan,becos he was keep interrupting mr durrani when he was making some important point.i think mr durrani is real 007 of the world.
Maz Peters one more naïve academic with their stupid ideals here.lol lol now get drunk and sleep.lol
Maz Peters 1,I am not lauging at u but laughing at the innocence and naivity ppl have.pls don't take things personally.
2.oh I am impress u don't drink,very good ur one step closer to islam as ur following its teaching not to drink alcohol.
3.I am not a Pakistani.sorry.
4.any loss of innocent live is bad,whether it is muslim,Christian,hindus,buhddist,atheist or dog.it is regrettable ppl still don't have control on their emotion.ppl still get swayed by words
4.collateral damage is the concept use by humanistic atheist for their violent actions and killing otherwise islam don't recognise it and highly aboherent from Islamic point of view and ppl who use such a concept to achieve their political goals will burn in hell for eternity.
Maz Peters strange isn't that more women become muslim than men.there is reason for that, islam is highly biased toward women and sometime as a man I feel it as well.
islam is a total way of life and my whole life or any muslim run around it and we talk about islam at the drop of hat becos of that and not with the intention of converting u to be muslim. that's the last thing on any muslim mind the reason is we believe one become muslim by the mercy of God.
anyway the message of islam is highly relevant in todays highly divisive immoral politics and way of life.
by the way what is central message of quran?
true patriot salute you general
mehdi find his ancestor .. ist time mehdi wasnt smiling other party was calm.. thats ISI
lol
this is not the game for the weak hearted people... very welll said Mr. Durrani
Well , atleast he was honest, no fake emotions and no regrets, his job demands that he play the devils role, with so many enemies all around
even a child knows how many forces are at work to destabilize and break up Pakistan, and with corrupt puppet leaders, often this is the only way to keep the country safe
all intelligence agencies function like this, its just tht with limited resources compared to rivals and few allies, ISI still comes out on top more than others....
"Pakistan has started and failed on all 4-5 wars with india"
A typical Hindu suffering from an inferiority complex.
1948 - India wanted Kashmir- Got it - No - Lost
1965 - India wanted Lahore - Got it - No - Lost
1971 - India wanted to separate Bengal - Got it - Yes - Won
"If pak withdraws its troops from kashmir today and stop sending terrorists"
Just like in 1980 India withdrew from Siachen right!!!
Indian Hindu is a conceited cruel baniyaa.
+Usman Qazi u might wanna read about the wars on internet from NEUTRAL sources and decide what is what. Also when u try to tell us about what and how we are,India is not the nation known for providing support and safe house to terrorists and terrorists groups.
+Usman Qazi about 1965 war, the war was inconclusive,the war ended after the superpower interfered , India had upper hand. what exchange of territories u are talking about? India had taken control of about 1800 km^2 including 360km2 of Lahore front while pakistan had taken about 600 km2.
PoK was already taken by Pakistan before the India had its access to it,it was after the legally joining of J& K to India that India stopped Pak army taking farther of the territory. Yes It was India who took the matter to the UN ,and resolution included Pakistan as well to withdraw its forces from PoK and hold the voting process,when did that happen?
You need to read documents which are neutral neither of India nor pakistan. India has never started the war. 1965 pakistan sent the army troops in akhnoor. In 1948 kashmir was pakistan's if pakistanis would have shown some patience. U invaded it. N even in kargil. So stop blaming India.
india did not want "lahore" or any part of PoK. If India wanted a military solution then even in 1971, India could have gained more ground before drawing up the Simla agreement. 1965 war was started by Pakistan. Pakistan literally follows a first strike Policy.
I really do not understand the mindset of the People of Afghanistan . From last several decades ( even before 1950 ) Afghanistan was very unstable , economically weak country , poorest infrastructure , no defense , no university , poor health care facility , living in caves, Tribes were busy fighting each other like today.
When Russian came in 80's , it was revealed that they cannot defend themselves. Millions of Afghani Rushed to Pakistan ( Country whose independence opposed by Afghanistan) for Aid. WHY?
USA provided the weapon through Pakistan . Anyone have better plan than this ? Pakistan should have closed borders and let millions of Afghani die ? This is what Afghani people want ?
If people of Afghanistan were any Talented, they must have shown their strength even before Russian Arrival. Charlie Wilson . Russian Left, tribes start fighting each other again.
Millions of Afghani were welcomed in Pakistan Like families . Living Peacefully , doing business , including the Karzai ( domestic enemy) .
Two Afghani cannot sit together to resolve their own dispute , but sure they will sit together to blame Pakistan .
Blaming Pakistan for the failures of Afghanistan is not going to work . Stop acting like Afghanistan was like Japan , USA , Germany before this war , it was a ruined land like today. People of Afghanistan need to take matter in their own hand . Their future is with other Afghani , as no one going to resolve their internal disputes.
well said
Um so surprised to c afghaniz in uk they hate pakistani so much ..these are the peopple given shelter in pakistan n in response they show hatred
.they become so happy if indain go mars etc
irfan D lol how do you look at yourself at the mirror with that bullshit propaganda lie your trying to spread??! Look at pictures of Afghanistan in the 60's and 70's and you say they were living backwards?? They had infrastructure, hospitals, university's etc etc. remember who your masters were (British) if it wasn't for your British masters there will be no such thing as Pakistan so whenever you see a British person kiss their feet! But Afghans don't kiss no ones feet, while the British were ruling your people afghans were playing soccer with the British heads, even till this day there finding the British empire soldiers body in Afghanistan so thank the British for creating the Duran line cause one day Afghanistan will reunite with their brothers and you Pakistani slaves can't run to the British empire no more...
@@quiasnoorzad you kissed the feet of 54 countries. .including America n india
Right brother
Great man, and unlike Western equivalents, he puts himself up in front of the public for judgement and most importantly, answers truthfully instead of pulling the wool over our eyes. This is surprising to Westerners. We are not the invaders but you make it sound like we are.
He was retired before the start of Taliban movement so He is just explaining things How He understand it, So should take it with a bit of salt.
@@MustafaRehman768 mohamad was the first terrorist of the world
@ lol not a hindu saying that, focus on your rss sweetie❤️
@@mariarauf3280 focus on taliban,isis and ur father osama
@ now say that without crying😍
Its so funny seeing host himself struggling to get support from his own panellists.
Stick to asking questions mate stop painting your own opinions on others..
You just nailed it
I've seen you commenting on many videos regarding gen durrani. I'd say a job well done sir.
Wow Mehdi is the worst interviewer ever! Please allow your guests to at least FINISH their sentences before you shove down our throats your view about the subject. And if you are bringing on a guest to discuss something, at least be respectful enough to not scoff at everything he or she says. What's the point of this show if you are not even WILLING to understand a point of view that is different from yours?
dude, did you listen what this moron was saying?? Collateral damage? what are you smoking? any human being with slim integrity would resist such ISI moron....
@Uthara Iyer... Perfectly summed it all up, lady. And despite all that, one cannot help but feel mesmerized by the composure and mental strength of the legendary spy master.
Exactly !!!
The only pakistani to speak truth.....respect for him for admitting the truth
i think little bit different. i think the moment general admitted of entertaining terrorism , the interveiw should has stopped. no need to entertain or justify these idiots. its criminal proudly calling himself criminal will not make him any less criminal.
Ravi Kumar, you need a lot of growing!! It does not suit you to talk about terrorism when you yourself are guilty of it. It is too machinating!!! India with its RAW is guilty of so many counts of terrorism in Pakistan. India supports TTP which has claimed numerously the acts of terrorism. One famous one is Peshawer School attack. Your media cleverly hides that information from you.
Showbiz dumbfuck aps was done by taliban,
Ravi kumar K Surprised to hear from people whom hands are full of blood
Akash Singh we are also anticipating this sort of blunt truth from your side.
this calm man is the best match for Mehdi Hassan..............never seen someone to remain so cool and firm on himself on Head To Head with Mehdi