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Noah is Hanno Tiddeman (sp?). I read in another thread that he gave himself the surname "Tauber" as a way of honoring Elizabeth, who was deaf. Tauber is supposed to be a shortened or slightly modified version of "deaf" in German .
When it happened in season 2 premiere I just had a feeling it was Bartosz. So happy it was confirmed. The casting on this show is excellent and he just looked an older Bartosz to me.
Bartosz realizing Noah/Hanno is always sort of breaks my heart because he realizes the hopelessness of the cycle. And yes, Claudia has always been a favorite of mine strangely because she reminded me of a female Gandalf (in appearance) lol.
Nice point! *****SPOILER AHEAD******** . . . By the way, in original world Marek and Sonja has familiar names to Martha and Jonas: Martha = MARek THAnnhaus, Jonas = Sonja. And they both had been saved from drawing in water as same as St. Christoper (on a pendant) saved baby Jesus from drawing in a river
I think you're confused with the *Martha saving Jonas from Apocalypse & taking him with her to her world/her not saving him and getting taken by bartosz = Jonas hiding in the basement* thing... So basically, those aren't two different worlds, both things happen at the same time just like the scientist explained at the beginning with the theory. Adam doesn't feel remorse when he tries to kill pregnant Martha bc that's not his son according to what HE lived (he never went to eva's world) but it is STILL his son bc his self ALSO traveled to eva's world = had sex with Martha = she got pregnant... I know it's hard to understand but that's what the theory is about, it implies that two realities can occurr at the same time, which is why the son that grows inside Martha's is still his even though the father of the son (*Jonas that travels to eve's world*) never grew up to be "Adam".... That's why quantum science is so difficult, bc it tries to understand and analyze the behavior of elements that exist in two different stages (which according to our common sense it shouldn't be possible, but it is) so basically adam believes that by killing the son of his self who went to eve's world he will be able to destroy both worlds but he's not able to because of what will happen in the last episode! Also *fun fact:* the creator of the cat theory; schrodinger, got so tired of quantum physics bc it was so confusing and hard to understand he ended up hating it and stopped studying it to become a biologist lmao can't wait for the next reaction!!
The problem is Jack applying the many worlds interpretation while the show wants you to apply the Copenhagen interpretation. But for some reason Jantje did not put that in the show. Just like the characters haven't beofre discussed terms like determinism or self-consistency.
25:06 This is the reason why people get Schrödinger's experiment wrong, the cat is not "either alive or dead" It's both dead and alive simultaneously you are talking like a scientist who refuses to accept the dual nature of light, It's not either wave or particle, it's both, it just depends on how you test it. If you will test it for the wave nature, you will see that it is a wave but for particle nature (photoelectric effect) it will seem like packets of particle (photons) Modern physics is not that difficult to understand but it is so counter-intuitive that it challenges the reality our everyday experiences. So is the cat alive or dead? Schrödinger says that according to the Copenhagen Interpretation, as long as the door is closed, the cat is dead AND alive. There is no way to know until the door is opened. But by opening the door, the *person is interfering with the experiment*. The person and the experiment have to be described with reference to each other. By looking at the experiment the person has influenced the experiment, therefore it may not give us the CORRECT answer. The thought experiment was invented by Schrödinger to demonstrate the foolishness of thinking about quantum states for large objects. I think they used that experiment in this episode perfectly to make sense of how the reality is not always how it loos like. I honestly think you guys should watch the whole show from the beginning individually without any distraction or recording to truly understand the brilliance of writing of this show.
i mean Tannhaus literally said at the beginning of the episode that two states exist at same time and they still went with "it's either this or that" and "so this erases that" when actually both scenarios exist at same time lol
I too can read wikipedia, so let's go lol How exactly is this experiment used "in this episode perfectly to make sense of how the reality is not always how it loos like." ? (not touching up on the fact that observation is also at the core of the experiment and it provides information ==> creates reality for onlooker a.k.a "makes it look how it is", fine, move on) I guess we have to take Jonas as an example. Him being saved by Marta and not being saved by her. Is that it? What they did do is split one reality into two (aside from alt world) to add more jonases into the picture. A cool trope for the show, but not an omg-brain*uck-amazing one. To me it felt like this experiment was only brought up as an analogy for the continuous theme of ambiguity, and not to explain anything except "we kinda need to have one more jonas" situation, because the experiment doesn't explain anything by itself. It's a split ,yeah, they said it themselves in the show. and even said something about how many possible realities could exist side by side. So how many? At that point I didn't even care.
Just to Note, if you didn't know a few eps ago when we saw the family tree, Jonas and Martha 2.0 Son( the origin) slept with Agnes who gave birth to Tronte and then Ulrich then Mikkel and so on, which is why they said the origin gives life to everyone. So Jonas is Mikkel's Great Grandfather and also his son. Mad.
" they didnt show us getting face fried" in this very episode they showed him working on the time machine and getting burned..indicating that more he worked the machine kept getting burned till he perfected it
We know, I cut it out, but we said after he got hit in the shoulder that he must have gotten hit in the face at some point and got fried because he can't die, we just thought we'd actually see that at some point - Corey
When Noah was trying to kill Adam, it was the oldest version of him that he knew, he simply believed that that's it, that's when Adam dies and there was nothing unreasonable about it - Adam wasn't immortal per se, just couldn't die when older version already existed and that didn't seem to be the case anymore. Adam pointed it out: "you believe it's your fate to kill me". That's why Noah was so shocked when he found out he can't kill Adam, he realised time is still not allowing it and he just joined the club of people convinced they've found the way to end things only to find out they're still in the middle of the bloody knot.
Egon has a lot to answer for. Egon -> Claudia -> Regina-> Bartosz Egon -> Silja Bartosz + Silja -> Agnes --> Tronte -> Ulrich -> Mikkel-> Jonas -> Infinite misery.
Don't forget the other world: Egon -> Claudia -> Regina-> Bartosz Egon -> Silja Bartosz + Silja -> Agnes --> Tronte -> Ulrich -> Martha -> Infinite misery.
also there are two realities going on in the same world. one of them where martha goes and saves jonas before the apocalypse(that’s the version of jonas adult martha shoots) and the other one where bartosz stops martha from saving jonas and he hides in the basement (that’d be the version of jonas that turns into the stranger and eventually adam)
@@cfbg lol superior what.. all of their dark reactions are just complains how they want it to just end.. doesn't matter how the show is explaining brilliantly everything connected and explained every plot point
@@sagar8538 let them be themselves. The cool thing about reactions is not to see somebody reacting the way you did, but the other way around due to different experience, preferences and overall personality of a viewer
@@whateverrockyourboat1899 I agree.. but sometimes it's gets too much in the face.. like how important is for them prove thier theory was right .. oh we guessed tht .. we predicted tht..
show: we have two worlds with two realities, one on inner side of the line and another on the outer side y'all: SO THERE ARE INFINITE WORLDS AND REALITIES WE ALREADY KNEW THAT I'm sorry but lmao i can't with y'all sksksksk
@@MRGooodwineTV It's funny with them cause they usually get annoyed over something in this show simply cause they missed some detail for that particular thing lol (happened to me few times hahah). That's why i split this season in two days cause i knew there'll be lots of info and wanted it all to stay fresh, while they watch with (i guess) a 1-2 day breaks between episodes. Tbh I'd probs forget something in this show if a stretched it over a week or two or more
It's not a flashback really... This is the "present" timeline we've followed all along. Since everything repeats it self in a loop, then that's what we are seeing here, all happening again as it always has.
Nice one as always! Yes, "chamber" is just an old-timey term for "room for sleeping". They're in the early 1900s and have adopted a bit of that time's language, no sinister connotations in that one. Did you notice an aspect ratio change between certain scenes in this episode? If not, watch out for it in the next one. BTW nice pope epilogue too. Sever the knot!!
I knew you guys probably missed a lot of moments while talking or joking. Can't believe you didn't realize immediately that Hanno is Noah. I'm sure that in previous season, there was a piece of newspaper with Noah's picture on it, only that his name was Hanno Tauber. Hanno = Noah. Come on guys that's pretty obvious.
The only time The Unknown holds the plans it's it 3x01when he burns the Sic Mundus temple... and I think he only got the letter there... or did he also take the plans?
I think it's always the final cycle because future them have lived these events leading to the apocalypse in 3 different stages of their lives. It is the final one because they are finally at the end of their lives, the last time in these events. Their last cycle.
Sorry Jack. But this is still the Copenhagen interpretation. Well more or less. First off you said that quantum entanglement would not exist on this scale but that was exactly what Schrödinger criticised: trying to apply the interpretation to any system above the quantum scale. But most importatntly many worlds says that both quantum states persist in their own worlds while copenhagen assumes that one of the states collapses shortly after the measurement. And this is what we are led to assume here... well in a fictional expanded way at least.
I can completely understand your frustration though. I was equally annoyed when the season two final mixed Novikov's self-consistency with the many worlds interpretation (applied to time travel). But then I learned how those theories can actually be combined and that it was a small leap to turn Novikov's statement on it's head for the show... then Jantje completely ignored that possibility in the ending. But I will post my two cents on the ending in the next video
The pope would be sitting there in his white hat. Which they all did most of the time. I mean I'm a protestant but I do know an awful lot about the Holy See compared to some Catholics I know. But I read most of that up after I had the chance to meet John Paul II in person.
As I said: You are still assuming many worlds. But the show is not doing many worlds at this point. Oh so you are aware of a second interpretation, Jack. Which version of the modal interpretation are you discussing? Because there is a copenhagen variant that might be interesting for you. But still those are only two of the interpretations people came up with. I also get the impression that uncertainty still eludes you.
I think Adam killing Martha did not work because the other, alternative Martha is the one that gives birth to the origin. That is, the Martha who went with Bartosz and not the one who saved Jonas.
Schrödingers interpretation says that there 2 possible states at the same time unless you observ. That is also true for infinite realities they can exist at the same time until you observ them. So yes it is all accessible if you have the information that you can only get from outside of every existing reality. Thats probably why bringing jonas into the reality he does not exist in may open his eyes to whats going on. Also i think you guys missed the point pretty early in season one that this or now you know these realities are determined reality so your argument about it being a cicle is nothing you, in determinism everything that happened happened and cant be changed, i cant go on without spoilers so I will only say this, determinism is only 1 of currently 2 main philosophical approaches to time travel
5:40: Did you notice that this scene is letterboxed? 13:18: The bedchamber, of course. What do you think a chamberlain originally was? Chamber is an old word for bedroom. 16:20: And it's like Jonas and Sonja...
You forgot the 2 versions of martha, the one who's working for adam brought jonas to mirror world then get killed by adam. The other who got scarred and kills jonas
I look at it like this, even if there are infinite worlds...we only get to see these two and their knotted connection because these two are 1. better for the story 2. probably more alike and intertwined more closely than other variations 3. We only get to see the worlds that reached the outcome in the end That divergent moment when Bartosz intervened and took Martha to Mad Max world could have easily had Bartosz, Martha and Jonas just all go in the basement. I'm thinking something like that had widely different outcomes so we are focusing on the two worlds that lead to the outcome that comes in the finale. In other words, we only get to see the variation that leads to a particular desired end for the sake of story and all of that hidden information remains that...hidden, because those stories lead to very different outcomes.
I just noticed it now what young Silja was wearing when she and Hannah went to see Jonas kinda like reminds me of what Marty was wearing in Back to the future... hehehe
So much negativity (and not just in this episode!) from the guy with the bad haircut (in NASA t shirt). This episode filled all the gaps in the cycle and was a masterpiece.
Hanno is noahs real name. That means bartosz is noahs and agnus dad. What means that batosz is elzabeth grandfather and charlottes grand grand father. Damn that show is crazy
I think No one has ever understood this series completely at the time of watching, even if u know what quantum entanglement and all other time travelling stuffs,but these guys understood it with the series going on. I think its because there are 4 brains working as one to understand where most people have seen it solo, so there was only one brain power for them.😅😅😅
At 2:13 in this video, when Tannhaus speaks there is a godly good background music. Does anyone know what is the title of it or is that unreleased so far?
4:32 because I don’t think Noah knew that Adam would go to 2053 and try to destroy the origin therefore he didn’t know an older version of Adam existed I think Let me know if I’m wrong
I finished the show yesterday, I was explaining shrod's cat to my guy a few episodes before this one because it sounded like something that was happening
I wish Adam's scarring would have been caused by Noah torching him instead of his time machine. Noah promised to make him suffer after baby Charlotte was taken, and since Adam can't die, that would have been perfect justice for being his hand puppet for eternity, and totally Noah.
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24:32: Be careful. There are two worlds, right. But those two worlds always create and annihilate each other over and over again. All what w have seen, had happened already a countless times. And in each of those loops, things could go either the one or the other way, as shown in the beginning. But each loop is slightly different. Remember Claudia and Jonas talking: We cannot change the overall events, but we can change minor things. Quantum entanglement. Martha could either save Jonas from the apocalypse or go with Bartosz and Jonas survives in the cellar. Jonas could either try to save Martha of go after Adam. Martha and Jonas can be either alive or dead, depending on their decisions. "You will know what to do" is what Adam said. He already knew that there is more than one reality in each of the worlds. So he tries to figure out which of the infinite split decisions finally leads to the reality that stops the cycle. So does Eva. And Claudia. So there are infinite world, but only two of them at the same time.
This episode pissed me off. You can tell very early (even in like season 1) on THIS Jonas has plot armour so why did he not just stand in front of Martha when Adam shot her?? He didn't exactly move his gun very fast and it was obvious what was going to happen AND neither Jonas nor Martha would've died.
The death of Jones and Martha are interconnected that's why both exist and don't exist at the same time....think about it..if Jonas died than Adam don't exist and if Adam exist than Martha was killed by Adam so Eva don't exist and vice versa
You're really not enjoying this...no offense but it seems like you're being forced to watch this....I know people may have different opinions but at least try not to be so pessimistic
there is a great reddit thread that clarifies a lot of implied stuff from the show: www.reddit.com/r/DarK/comments/hj6zer/spoilers_your_handydandy_guide_to_the_most_common/ my theory on the one thing they don't answer: www.reddit.com/r/DarK/comments/hl8jxm/spoilers_s3_your_handydandy_guide_to_the_most/fx9u8q0/?context=3 obvioulsy major spoilers if you haven't finished it but y'all said you already have
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Noahs real name is Hanno Tauber. So yes, he is Bartosz son.
And Noah killed his father with a pick ax.
@@havok6280 what's worse, Bartosz knew it would happen, and didn't fight back because (most likely) it was his own son.
Noah is Hanno Tiddeman (sp?). I read in another thread that he gave himself the surname "Tauber" as a way of honoring Elizabeth, who was deaf. Tauber is supposed to be a shortened or slightly modified version of "deaf" in German .
Just in case you already forgot, Adam also asked Noah to kill his own father in 1921.
I knew it it was Bartosz. I mean, I didn't know it at first, but since adult Bartosz appeared in the show, he looks familiar.
When it happened in season 2 premiere I just had a feeling it was Bartosz. So happy it was confirmed. The casting on this show is excellent and he just looked an older Bartosz to me.
noah tried to shoot adam because he thought his destiny was to kill him at that moment
'' i know what i must do''
Yep, adult Noah thought that the Adam he's talking to at that point is the future future Adam
Bartosz realizing Noah/Hanno is always sort of breaks my heart because he realizes the hopelessness of the cycle.
And yes, Claudia has always been a favorite of mine strangely because she reminded me of a female Gandalf (in appearance) lol.
Clay: “I’m on Team Claudia.” Hell yes!
Did anyone notice Silja named her children after her parents...
Hanno -- after Hannah and
Agnes -- after Egon
Damn, they really did plan this whole show out. We learn about Hanno and Agnes in like season 1
Holy shit, my mind's blown again.
Nice point!
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By the way, in original world Marek and Sonja has familiar names to Martha and Jonas:
Martha = MARek THAnnhaus, Jonas = Sonja.
And they both had been saved from drawing in water as same as St. Christoper (on a pendant) saved baby Jesus from drawing in a river
@@vladiskif Oh my god! Such a brilliant show
I think you're confused with the *Martha saving Jonas from Apocalypse & taking him with her to her world/her not saving him and getting taken by bartosz = Jonas hiding in the basement* thing... So basically, those aren't two different worlds, both things happen at the same time just like the scientist explained at the beginning with the theory.
Adam doesn't feel remorse when he tries to kill pregnant Martha bc that's not his son according to what HE lived (he never went to eva's world) but it is STILL his son bc his self ALSO traveled to eva's world = had sex with Martha = she got pregnant... I know it's hard to understand but that's what the theory is about, it implies that two realities can occurr at the same time, which is why the son that grows inside Martha's is still his even though the father of the son (*Jonas that travels to eve's world*) never grew up to be "Adam"....
That's why quantum science is so difficult, bc it tries to understand and analyze the behavior of elements that exist in two different stages (which according to our common sense it shouldn't be possible, but it is) so basically adam believes that by killing the son of his self who went to eve's world he will be able to destroy both worlds but he's not able to because of what will happen in the last episode!
Also *fun fact:* the creator of the cat theory; schrodinger, got so tired of quantum physics bc it was so confusing and hard to understand he ended up hating it and stopped studying it to become a biologist lmao
can't wait for the next reaction!!
Honestly, this whole two reality thing is fairly simple if you pay attention to Tanhhaus says in the beginning
completely true
@@footgoblin yeah, if one of those 4 pay attention ;)
The problem is Jack applying the many worlds interpretation while the show wants you to apply the Copenhagen interpretation. But for some reason Jantje did not put that in the show. Just like the characters haven't beofre discussed terms like determinism or self-consistency.
Aren't they just one cycle apart? Every second cycle Martha either saves Jonas or not?
25:06
This is the reason why people get Schrödinger's experiment wrong, the cat is not "either alive or dead" It's both dead and alive simultaneously
you are talking like a scientist who refuses to accept the dual nature of light, It's not either wave or particle, it's both, it just depends on how you test it. If you will test it for the wave nature, you will see that it is a wave but for particle nature (photoelectric effect) it will seem like packets of particle (photons)
Modern physics is not that difficult to understand but it is so counter-intuitive that it challenges the reality our everyday experiences.
So is the cat alive or dead? Schrödinger says that according to the Copenhagen Interpretation, as long as the door is closed, the cat is dead AND alive. There is no way to know until the door is opened. But by opening the door, the *person is interfering with the experiment*. The person and the experiment have to be described with reference to each other.
By looking at the experiment the person has influenced the experiment, therefore it may not give us the CORRECT answer.
The thought experiment was invented by Schrödinger to demonstrate the foolishness of thinking about quantum states for large objects.
I think they used that experiment in this episode perfectly to make sense of how the reality is not always how it loos like.
I honestly think you guys should watch the whole show from the beginning individually without any distraction or recording to truly understand the brilliance of writing of this show.
The rewatch factor makes it understand it even better.
i mean Tannhaus literally said at the beginning of the episode that two states exist at same time and they still went with "it's either this or that" and "so this erases that" when actually both scenarios exist at same time lol
I too can read wikipedia, so let's go lol
How exactly is this experiment used "in this episode perfectly to make sense of how the reality is not always how it loos like." ?
(not touching up on the fact that observation is also at the core of the experiment and it provides information ==> creates reality for onlooker a.k.a "makes it look how it is",
fine, move on)
I guess we have to take Jonas as an example. Him being saved by Marta and not being saved by her. Is that it?
What they did do is split one reality into two (aside from alt world) to add more jonases into the picture.
A cool trope for the show, but not an omg-brain*uck-amazing one.
To me it felt like this experiment was only brought up as an analogy for the continuous theme of ambiguity, and not to explain anything except "we kinda need to have one more jonas" situation, because the experiment doesn't explain anything by itself.
It's a split ,yeah, they said it themselves in the show.
and even said something about how many possible realities could exist side by side. So how many? At that point I didn't even care.
Just to Note, if you didn't know a few eps ago when we saw the family tree, Jonas and Martha 2.0 Son( the origin) slept with Agnes who gave birth to Tronte and then Ulrich then Mikkel and so on, which is why they said the origin gives life to everyone. So Jonas is Mikkel's Great Grandfather and also his son. Mad.
Hyped for the last reaction. The ending is crazy good. All in all a masterpiece
" they didnt show us getting face fried" in this very episode they showed him working on the time machine and getting burned..indicating that more he worked the machine kept getting burned till he perfected it
Yeah, he couldnt die anyway. So he didnt care about getting fried :D
Ditto!
We know, I cut it out, but we said after he got hit in the shoulder that he must have gotten hit in the face at some point and got fried because he can't die, we just thought we'd actually see that at some point - Corey
When Noah was trying to kill Adam, it was the oldest version of him that he knew, he simply believed that that's it, that's when Adam dies and there was nothing unreasonable about it - Adam wasn't immortal per se, just couldn't die when older version already existed and that didn't seem to be the case anymore. Adam pointed it out: "you believe it's your fate to kill me". That's why Noah was so shocked when he found out he can't kill Adam, he realised time is still not allowing it and he just joined the club of people convinced they've found the way to end things only to find out they're still in the middle of the bloody knot.
Egon has a lot to answer for.
Egon -> Claudia -> Regina-> Bartosz
Egon -> Silja
Bartosz + Silja -> Agnes --> Tronte -> Ulrich -> Mikkel-> Jonas -> Infinite misery.
they just needed to kill Egon by any means lol
so silja is barotsz great aunt, lol.
Don't forget the other world:
Egon -> Claudia -> Regina-> Bartosz
Egon -> Silja
Bartosz + Silja -> Agnes --> Tronte -> Ulrich -> Martha -> Infinite misery.
also there are two realities going on in the same world. one of them where martha goes and saves jonas before the apocalypse(that’s the version of jonas adult martha shoots) and the other one where bartosz stops martha from saving jonas and he hides in the basement (that’d be the version of jonas that turns into the stranger and eventually adam)
The episode: Literally shows us how everyone got where they are.
You guys: We didn't learn anything new.
Lol
@@cfbg its called being lazy..
@@cfbg lol superior what.. all of their dark reactions are just complains how they want it to just end.. doesn't matter how the show is explaining brilliantly everything connected and explained every plot point
@@sagar8538 let them be themselves. The cool thing about reactions is not to see somebody reacting the way you did, but the other way around due to different experience, preferences and overall personality of a viewer
@@whateverrockyourboat1899 I agree.. but sometimes it's gets too much in the face.. like how important is for them prove thier theory was right .. oh we guessed tht .. we predicted tht..
show: we have two worlds with two realities, one on inner side of the line and another on the outer side
y'all: SO THERE ARE INFINITE WORLDS AND REALITIES WE ALREADY KNEW THAT
I'm sorry but lmao i can't with y'all sksksksk
and they still got in wrong lol...they need to pay attention a bit more
@@MRGooodwineTV It's funny with them cause they usually get annoyed over something in this show simply cause they missed some detail for that particular thing lol (happened to me few times hahah). That's why i split this season in two days cause i knew there'll be lots of info and wanted it all to stay fresh, while they watch with (i guess) a 1-2 day breaks between episodes. Tbh I'd probs forget something in this show if a stretched it over a week or two or more
Claudia to Jonas in Season 2: "I've seen the world without you."
Hannah + Egon --> Silja.
Silja + Bartosz --> Agnes, Noah
Agnes + Origin (?) --> Tronte
Trone + Yana --> Ulrich, Mads
Ulrich + Katharina --> Mikkel, Martha, Magnus
Mikkel + Hannah --> Jonas
God damnit Hannah xD
I just now realized that the 'priest' who's Agnes' husband is that triple kill weirdo kid from Jonas and Eve.
So, Hannah essentially fucked both her great-great and great-great-great grandsons.
Series finale:
All I wanna know is will Juice Crew be flipping tables and breaking shit??
Or will all the rage and frustration have been worth it???
It's not a flashback really... This is the "present" timeline we've followed all along. Since everything repeats it self in a loop, then that's what we are seeing here, all happening again as it always has.
Lmao!! Juice making that face at 24:39 is killing me😂
He is so cute
24:39 he's so done with jack lol
haha love these dudes
Also if you remember the first episode of season 2, Noah is the one who killed Bartozs because he didn't believe in Adam :(
Nice one as always! Yes, "chamber" is just an old-timey term for "room for sleeping". They're in the early 1900s and have adopted a bit of that time's language, no sinister connotations in that one.
Did you notice an aspect ratio change between certain scenes in this episode? If not, watch out for it in the next one. BTW nice pope epilogue too.
Sever the knot!!
Yeah, in French, the word for room is “chambre”
hanno tauber is the real name of noahs character in the show.
You're the brothers I never had :)
😄...
Why is Jack so negative all the time?!
Nice haircut Jack... Im lolling on Juice' disrespect while Jack is explaining Schrodinger's Cat hahahaha...
I knew you guys probably missed a lot of moments while talking or joking. Can't believe you didn't realize immediately that Hanno is Noah. I'm sure that in previous season, there was a piece of newspaper with Noah's picture on it, only that his name was Hanno Tauber. Hanno = Noah. Come on guys that's pretty obvious.
The Plans for the Timemachine is not from Eve. If im remembers right, the 3 Unknowns stole it from Adam in the earlier Episodes.
The only time The Unknown holds the plans it's it 3x01when he burns the Sic Mundus temple... and I think he only got the letter there... or did he also take the plans?
It's a bootstrap paradox. It has no origin
If all you take away from this show is that Noah elevated the show with his chiselled features I am all good 😂
I guess they missed the episode where Noah went by the name Hanno.
I FEEL SO LUCKY THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS MASTERPIECE IN FIRST TIME...
y'all missed some details and mixed few things up so my thumbs up is just for Juice being cute lmao k bye
I think it's always the final cycle because future them have lived these events leading to the apocalypse in 3 different stages of their lives. It is the final one because they are finally at the end of their lives, the last time in these events. Their last cycle.
24:30 Jack:
Juice: *oh scheisse, here we go again.*
Sorry Jack. But this is still the Copenhagen interpretation. Well more or less. First off you said that quantum entanglement would not exist on this scale but that was exactly what Schrödinger criticised: trying to apply the interpretation to any system above the quantum scale.
But most importatntly many worlds says that both quantum states persist in their own worlds while copenhagen assumes that one of the states collapses shortly after the measurement. And this is what we are led to assume here... well in a fictional expanded way at least.
I can completely understand your frustration though. I was equally annoyed when the season two final mixed Novikov's self-consistency with the many worlds interpretation (applied to time travel). But then I learned how those theories can actually be combined and that it was a small leap to turn Novikov's statement on it's head for the show... then Jantje completely ignored that possibility in the ending. But I will post my two cents on the ending in the next video
The pope would be sitting there in his white hat.
Which they all did most of the time.
I mean I'm a protestant but I do know an awful lot about the Holy See compared to some Catholics I know. But I read most of that up after I had the chance to meet John Paul II in person.
As I said: You are still assuming many worlds. But the show is not doing many worlds at this point.
Oh so you are aware of a second interpretation, Jack. Which version of the modal interpretation are you discussing? Because there is a copenhagen variant that might be interesting for you.
But still those are only two of the interpretations people came up with.
I also get the impression that uncertainty still eludes you.
If I can't die "I can't overdose" that is funny lol
true but the amount of time you'll be throwing it all back up for you'd sure wish you could die 😐
I think Adam killing Martha did not work because the other, alternative Martha is the one that gives birth to the origin. That is, the Martha who went with Bartosz and not the one who saved Jonas.
Schrödingers interpretation says that there 2 possible states at the same time unless you observ. That is also true for infinite realities they can exist at the same time until you observ them. So yes it is all accessible if you have the information that you can only get from outside of every existing reality. Thats probably why bringing jonas into the reality he does not exist in may open his eyes to whats going on.
Also i think you guys missed the point pretty early in season one that this or now you know these realities are determined reality so your argument about it being a cicle is nothing you, in determinism everything that happened happened and cant be changed, i cant go on without spoilers so I will only say this, determinism is only 1 of currently 2 main philosophical approaches to time travel
5:40: Did you notice that this scene is letterboxed?
13:18: The bedchamber, of course. What do you think a chamberlain originally was? Chamber is an old word for bedroom.
16:20: And it's like Jonas and Sonja...
The fact that you guys still talking about Vatican never ceases to crack me up. Come on.. 😂
For the love of God and all that is holy, secure those electrical connections in junction boxes. You are just asking for a fire.
Nathan Dickson it's only 12v, so technically legal according to the NEC
@@JuiceLabs Ah. Okay. You still will want to probably secure those wires and connections a bit better.
It's the Bent-Neck Jonas!
Corey "I wouldn't be surprised if he had her killed right now."
Dark: "hold my pillow"
Can't wait for ep 8! Great reaction!
Listened to the afterthoughts in the background, so going from quantum mechanics to the secrets of nazi gold really made me confused for a moment.
Oh hell yeah. i'll go grab a beer and lets goooo!
4:47 I literally thought of the exact same thing as Clay.
You forgot the 2 versions of martha, the one who's working for adam brought jonas to mirror world then get killed by adam. The other who got scarred and kills jonas
I loved the LOK quote. Good job man, that's one hell of a show too ;)
Juice drinking juice. Got me thirsty.
Chamber is the old fashioned word for bedroom... So the translation is correct for the time...
It's Adam's arm that we see get fried and I think it spreads or something similar happens again
14:15
Juice: wasnt chamber like where people sleep
Jack: not in my house xddddddddddddddddd
I look at it like this, even if there are infinite worlds...we only get to see these two and their knotted connection because these two are
1. better for the story
2. probably more alike and intertwined more closely than other variations
3. We only get to see the worlds that reached the outcome in the end
That divergent moment when Bartosz intervened and took Martha to Mad Max world could have easily had Bartosz, Martha and Jonas just all go in the basement. I'm thinking something like that had widely different outcomes so we are focusing on the two worlds that lead to the outcome that comes in the finale.
In other words, we only get to see the variation that leads to a particular desired end for the sake of story and all of that hidden information remains that...hidden, because those stories lead to very different outcomes.
I just noticed it now what young Silja was wearing when she and Hannah went to see Jonas kinda like reminds me of what Marty was wearing in Back to the future... hehehe
Release the last episode reaction faaaaast
So much negativity (and not just in this episode!) from the guy with the bad haircut (in NASA t shirt).
This episode filled all the gaps in the cycle and was a masterpiece.
I've noticed 🥴
don't watch, it just that simple
I noticed that too. He's so negative all the time. If he doesn't like the series, why is he watching it?
Wym bad haircut. His haircut looks perfectly fine to me.
@@whateverrockyourboat1899 But I usually like their reactions and discussion. Just giving some feedback.
the best episode😍😍😍
hanno is noah, menasing bartosh is noah's father.
The hanging gave me flashbacks to the bent neck lady. This was a creepy scene for sure
Hanno is noahs real name. That means bartosz is noahs and agnus dad. What means that batosz is elzabeth grandfather and charlottes grand grand father. Damn that show is crazy
You guys need at least 10 rewatches.
I think No one has ever understood this series completely at the time of watching, even if u know what quantum entanglement and all other time travelling stuffs,but these guys understood it with the series going on. I think its because there are 4 brains working as one to understand where most people have seen it solo, so there was only one brain power for them.😅😅😅
So Bartosz wife is Jonas Sister and at the end of season 1 Jonas sister welcome him to the future.
The model appears to be two (three) worlds/universes; infinite timelines.
Every one talking about the series and here I am like: KORRA FUCK YEAH.
11:49 yeah about that :D
if theres a catholic fantasy league for who becomes the next pope, i wanna jump in on that
Final one on Saturday?
At 2:13 in this video, when Tannhaus speaks there is a godly good background music. Does anyone know what is the title of it or is that unreleased so far?
4:32 because I don’t think Noah knew that Adam would go to 2053 and try to destroy the origin therefore he didn’t know an older version of Adam existed
I think
Let me know if I’m wrong
I finished the show yesterday, I was explaining shrod's cat to my guy a few episodes before this one because it sounded like something that was happening
“Legend of Korra. Watch it.” I’ve always known Jack is a man of great taste
I wish Adam's scarring would have been caused by Noah torching him instead of his time machine. Noah promised to make him suffer after baby Charlotte was taken, and since Adam can't die, that would have been perfect justice for being his hand puppet for eternity, and totally Noah.
Hi Juicelabs I enjoy watching your Dark season 3 The Umbrella academy and The outsider reactions and how are you all? Hope that you all are staying safe and well
24:32: Be careful. There are two worlds, right. But those two worlds always create and annihilate each other over and over again. All what w have seen, had happened already a countless times. And in each of those loops, things could go either the one or the other way, as shown in the beginning. But each loop is slightly different. Remember Claudia and Jonas talking: We cannot change the overall events, but we can change minor things. Quantum entanglement. Martha could either save Jonas from the apocalypse or go with Bartosz and Jonas survives in the cellar. Jonas could either try to save Martha of go after Adam. Martha and Jonas can be either alive or dead, depending on their decisions. "You will know what to do" is what Adam said. He already knew that there is more than one reality in each of the worlds. So he tries to figure out which of the infinite split decisions finally leads to the reality that stops the cycle. So does Eva. And Claudia. So there are infinite world, but only two of them at the same time.
This episode pissed me off. You can tell very early (even in like season 1) on THIS Jonas has plot armour so why did he not just stand in front of Martha when Adam shot her?? He didn't exactly move his gun very fast and it was obvious what was going to happen AND neither Jonas nor Martha would've died.
The death of Jones and Martha are interconnected that's why both exist and don't exist at the same time....think about it..if Jonas died than Adam don't exist and if Adam exist than Martha was killed by Adam so Eva don't exist and vice versa
Sever the knot! Yeah!!
the electricity!
Any chance to put these episodes on patreon? I'm dying for more
That disrespect by juice.
He doesn't like the show like the others do that's why.
@@CC-zm8ls Or he was just messing with Jack
@@hasibalfuad9652 maybe but what I said is also true he says in 3x8
Hanno is Noah’s real name
You're really not enjoying this...no offense but it seems like you're being forced to watch this....I know people may have different opinions but at least try not to be so pessimistic
When can we expect the last episode of the outsider??
We had to put editing it on hold to finish Dark, but it'll be up this weekend
uh ohhh
TeamClaudia
there is a great reddit thread that clarifies a lot of implied stuff from the show: www.reddit.com/r/DarK/comments/hj6zer/spoilers_your_handydandy_guide_to_the_most_common/
my theory on the one thing they don't answer: www.reddit.com/r/DarK/comments/hl8jxm/spoilers_s3_your_handydandy_guide_to_the_most/fx9u8q0/?context=3
obvioulsy major spoilers if you haven't finished it but y'all said you already have
Was waitin for this one greaaaatone guyysss
7:59: Nope.
Noah tried to shoot Adam and not Jonas, remember? ;)
only few?! How about Jonas and Stranger? Hanna? Beautiful ppl
Noah killed Yasin to marry Elizabeth
Why does Claudia has no blue and brown eye in season 3?
we only see Claudia in a dull postapocalyptic color grading this season, everything is gray
bedchamber
Love youre reactions! finale is great
Breaking bad next show
Watch Money Heist/ La Casa de Papel!