Sheed & Bonzi HATE The Cavs Firing J.B. Bickerstaff
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2024
- Sheed and Bonzi are shocked by JB Bickerstaff getting fired by the Cleveland Cavaliers after two straight playoff runs and steady improvement with Cleveland over the last five years. Bonzi says it has to be incredibly intimidating to be a coach in the NBA now because it's like if you don't have immediate success you're fired.
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The blaming of the coaches is getting out of hand. NBA dudes are far too spoiled. I root for NONE of them.
Who blammed jb?
@@TheKingofsoccormf he’s fired!!!
The firing is really getting to be too much! You are so right about that!
Jeff Van Gundy messed up a lot of careers.
I always hated the way Bonzi Wells conducted himself his first couple years on the court. He hadn't earned anything to get the calls to go his way.
Why are you watching an nba podcast😂😂
Unrealistic expectations.
CLE was the 4th seed for the last 2 seasons. Mitchell, Allen, and Levert got injured and Garland didn’t play great. CLE was a piece away from being legit,
Could be a coach away.. they weren't beating Celtics with 1 more piece
We were the right experienced caoch away... Now we try to get him...
@FloydPhillipsII This current roster cannot compete with Boston or Philly. That's NOT JB's fault.
@@codyeble6764 They got a game in BOS without Allen. Allen was 17 & 10. I think if CLE add a 3 and d guy yes they can compete
Garland doesn't seem to play well with Mitchell. Maybe he defers too much to him, or Mitchell wants to ensure he gets his at Garland's expense. The games Mitchell was out, Garland had games where he looked like an all-star again.
Cleveland front office are delusional if they think they can do better with a team that is always hurt.
Coach was playing stars including Spida huge minutes in early season and deep into nonsense games - then they all hurt in playoffs - Coach built culture but can’t win it all that way
Sheed is right about these teams wanting this instant microwave championship and it just don’t work like that. I agree you do have to stack build the team layer, but they don’t want to build no more they want instant.
They want a Raptors championship instead of Golden State championshipS
That's primarily due to the culture pushed when it comes to expectations; you can't grow a franchise because every narrative is about winning and how soon
Fire the GM not the coach. This team was not cohesive enough, two non scoring bigs will not work in this league.
I hate today’s league
I agree. I believe that the GM, and coach expected Mobley to develop into more. He has the potential, but he is young.
I dislike the way the modern game has lessened the importance of post play from bigs.
The fundamental skill sets necessary for Bigs in the modern game aren’t taught for the bigs.
They learn to catch and shoot, and roll to the basket.
If more Bigs, Power forwards played with the overall skill set of past bigs in recent eras.. ball handling, passing from the post, both mid and low post.
The game would be better.
It’s a plethora of young bigs who have the athleticism, the talent to develop these skills, but they are used the same.
No way 7’ft guys like Issacs should be standing on the perimeter shooting 3’s…
It’s great that the centers and PF have that range, but they need to play differently, to be elite.
Guys like Naz Reid, are successful because of his ball handling ability, his passing ability.
I look at guys like Ayton who just doesn’t care, but he’s frustrating because he has the necessary skill set to be elite, but his mentality is below average.
My bad for the rant.
I’ve been saying this for a while, I said this before Jokic had his run, because the center position, bigs in general skill set declined.
Regardless, you have to have Bigs who are scoring threats on offense, even if it’s because they are extremely efficient in what they do… Gafford for Dallas, is that type of big.
But they also have Lively, and PJ versatile bigs who are versatile and play both ends of the court well.
I think more teams going forward will get back to basics and start developing the bigs differently.
Hell I’d take the LaMarcus Aldridge prototype in today’s game.
Or going way back Horace Grant.
@@mobrown1198 Mobley is about to enter his third season next year so he should be a star already
@@mobrown1198all facts ,that is why I think a player like jahlil okafor should be in the league he was unstoppable in the post from the foul line in he had a dribble and post moves better than embiid on the block for real although embiid is favorite player but jahlil post game was better they talk about his defense and rebounding but no one could stop him either I know if the sixers had him backing up embiid they would've beat the Knicks ,Allen has a nice post ,,brook Lopez was a beast on the nets from the post got to bucks an they turned him into a 3 point shooter ,,I agree with your ayton take as well all the talent no drive to be great embiid has the drive but can't stay healthy joker is a beast and so is sabonis but you right the fundamentals of the game isn't being taught it's really up the player to want too be great because coaches aren't coaching bigs how
They've looked good playing the high low, problem is the guards don't ever use bigs for anything but screens to get switches
It's an awful fire!
Fax
These national guys know nothing about the Cavs l. Mitchell is the 1 who wanted him fired. They won in spite of jb, his rotations r terrible and his offense is 8th grade level. No out of bounds plays. He’s a terrible in game coach, the only that he does is gets the team to play hard. Which was starting to
Fail this year, against Orlando they didn’t give effort in multiple games
I think it has something to do with Mitchell
Coaches today cant even buy a house. This crazy. These guys have to rent homes or condos.
I wouldn't even move my family for 2 years. Wtf. If it weren't the outlandish contracts there is literally no reason to coach in the nba besides for a select few organizations.
So what ,these coaches are millionaires.
Small starting guards that did not mesh and two non offensive bigs coupled with injuries.
Breaking news.... Doc Rivers is the new coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers.
He’ll bring in Austin out of retirement to come off of the bench 😂
This thing the last few years of coaches,specifically ones with good reputations and respectable results,are getting axed over slight nothings is getting ridiculous.I think alot of teams are hoping they find a erik spoelstra,steve kerr type of gem when that's not how things work.Plus this thing of overcatering to players is starting to get sickening with how they fear a player will leave so they do the most extreme actions to HOPE the player stays it's absolutely ridiculous and needs to stop
He did his thang to me in Cleveland, They haven’t been this good since Lebrun left. And steadily getting better. Just my opinion. And why the fuck isn’t Mark Jackson in the mix anywhere??? Come on, this shit is obvious!
Don got him up outta there 😂
As a bulls fan, why can’t Billy Donovan get fired. I’m tired of that guy
I knew Bickerstaff was getting fired how da season ended. Sometimes at all Organizations & companies someone has to answer for Unrealistic Expectations
The man can’t go on the damn court and make shots and play defense.. or hell even be available for the game… sheesh
I’m from Cleveland and watched every game jb is a rookie coach not a coach that will take you to the finals that’s why he is the perfect fit for Detroit they’re young and are not in playoff mode yet stop with this bs when y’all don’t even watch cavs games
Superstars are being too spoon fed nowadays
What superstar did Cleveland have??
@@DrPhill96 Mitchell
@@dreamcage1801 - He is NOT a super star and I’ve only seen/heard you consider him that.
@@dreamcage1801Mitchell superstar cmon now 😂😂 if the front office really dat they must b dumber than we think
Welcome to Detroit JB.
💯💯💯💯
Who will they bring in that will improve on what they were already developing. Fans and ownership take measured success and continuity too lightly
Sheed quoting Einstein is 🔥😁
What a stupid mentality these days: Players moving around nearly every year, coaches being fired at complete random. And then they moan that they can't win championship. Yeah, fools, you need consistency to get to the top
I love how even keeled Bonzi is, he always comes with some logical think it out takes
Cleveland is delusional if they thought that was a championship squad...JB got a raw deal... when is upper management gonna get called out for putting together these rosters..
Its a joke the way they do the Coaches...They need to get a better system in place to give Coaches more Job security...
do they have any players the front office would listen to?
How about Sam Cassel!!!
I think it’s something going on behind the scenes. I can’t see Donovan Mitchell staying there.
Nah. He’s why the coach is fired 😂
JB Bickerstaff was fantastic for a Cavaliers core revolving around Darius Garland/ Evan Mobley/Jarrett Allen. But we have to admit that once Donovan Mitchell came into the picture the whole system changed. It stop being about what players could we fit alongside Garland/Mobley/Allen and began being about what players we could fit alongside Donovan Mitchell. I agree, adjustments needed to take time. But on Donovan's time? It just wasn't going to happen. It's unfortunate really. Cleveland fans, all we can hope for is Atkinson to have a legitimate plan going forward.
He did his thang to me in Cleveland, They haven’t been this good since Lebrun left. And steadily getting better. Just my opinion.
they have to be patient man 2nd round is impressive too
spider fingerprints all over this firing
It is the FairWeatherFans that push the coaches out. The players have a role too but I agree that building a team is not easy.
I think they were more than a couple of games/possessions from getting past Boston. But who the heck does Cleveland think they're going to hire that will generate drastically different results? This is totally a desperation ploy to keep Donovan.
They did him like marc jackson
None of y’all watch the Cavs. This man was incompetent. He played injured players and made them worse. His record after all star break is about 10 wins for 2 seasons. He lost the respect of the team about 3x this year alone.
Management is ultimately responsible for all the team transactions. It’s a power trip and they hold the power.
Earlier in the season the cavaliers won seventeen out of eighteen games. They were beating the best teams in the league and holding everybody under 100 points. This was when garland was out injured. When garland returned, J b gave him back his thirty plus minutes per game and the team returned to mediocrity. Other teams were scoring way over one hundred points per game and the cavs offense suffered as well. It was obvious to everyone except j.B that Garland was detrimental to the team. JB never figured out why they played so well during the winning streak.
How about this starting and finishing lineup for next year. Wade, Allen, and Mobley in the front court. (I don't see how teams will score over a hundred points against those three.) In case you didn't know, Wade was rated the number one defender in the entire NBA at one point. Plus, he's a forty percent shooter from the arc. At six foot nine, what did kevin love have that he doesn't have? Wade gets treated like the proverbial redheaded stepson. (This may be another reason JB is gone.) If you ask me, Wade and Ocoro were major reasons for the great winning streak.
DM at the point and at the 2 spot? Bates/Merrill/Strus/Ocoro.
Terrible move by Cleveland they’re right back to rebuilding and not competing for a championship.
Rebuilding? Stop it. We still have 3 All Stars and one on the way in Evan Mobley...
@@FloydPhillipsII Mitchell is pushing for a trade and the front office has Jared Allen on block. Mobley is nice but their pg didn’t impact the series.
@@auntrayjones39 Mitchell is NOT pushing for a trade, Jared Allen is NOT on trading block. GM just came out yesterday to say he expects all 4 guys to be back next season with new coach. You wildin', calm down...
@@FloydPhillipsII how many times have GM’s said the exact same thing and the players were moved? The GM is using executive speak we’ll see
@@auntrayjones39 As a Cavs fan, I can tell you, they do not want to trade anyone. They like to add people, not trade them, we don't do trades often unfortunately...
I’m from Cleveland. I hated the firing. If I was Cleveland I would trade D Mitchell get a wing scorer, and bolster that bench. Garland will play much better without Mitchell and will make his team better.
Even I hate the firing. It seems like everyone is too fickle and wanting instant success instead of building to it as a whole
It's not JB's fault. These GMs are the ones who don't know how to construct a deep roster that has chemistry. If Cleveland was smart, they'd try to get Brandon Ingram and put him with Spida, Garland, Mobley, and Allen. If you want to win in the NBA you cannot be afraid of going over the luxury tax. The Pelicans have already said that they may not offer a contract extension to Brandon Ingram. He'd fit perfectly with them because they need consistency from the wing.
as always.... when a company has been in business for years.... everything begins and ends at the top.
Players got take responsibility for getting all these coaches ax
Yall say whatever yall want but u didnt watch the cavs all season. Our players were lost in the playoffs. Need a coach with a better plan.
Let's be real most of these people with an opinion didn't even watch the Cavs in the playoffs.
this a great podcast
No player on the cavs should have that much power. No job is safe
JB isnt a good coach, either that or he is and the players just dont listen because the only thing they've done for the last 3 years is a high screen and roll and hope for the best, and have the other 3 stand around, 2 of which are usually not shooters.. that being said idk if any other coach out there is much better.. but your team will also win more games when you trade for Mitchell, add 2 shooters the next year... Thats not coaching, thats more talent
Facts
It’s the players. Too spoiled ,entitled and overpaid
Players today don't want to pay dues to get better, they get paid a lot of money to be spoiled, and cry if a foul is called on them , the coach did a great job he can't play for them
I’m a Sixers fan but they should get the guy that the Bucks fired. He also got the short end of the stick
These GMs and owners take no accountability. Everyone guessing is it the coach or players. When its the EXECS. They recruit bad, they pay bad, they invest in no one , they don't train them when things go wrong they blame everyone else
Had 4+ years - but treating vets like the rooks he built up - not the right situation anymore
JB didn't deserve to get fired man
Some of these cpqch firings are BOGUS. Im here in Toronto, we kept our coach after an ABYSMAL season, and some of these coaches that get their team to the 1st/2nd round getting canned for doing a Better job than others. Just stupid if you ask me
Adrian griffin man smh he was done dirty
Did Mitchell tell yall he was leaving?
What ????? WRF y this man get let go make ZERO sense smh
Cleveland is looked at as playoff (ok)team, fire the nobody coach, get bigger name coach to lure in or snatch up a superstar player to Cleveland. Sell more tickets, jerseys, etc. #Business
Do your Job and still get fire
Injuries killed them this year period
I still think trading Markenen for Mitchell hurt team chemistry. Garland was coming into his own. The bigs were gelling. Then u bring in ball hog.
They were worse before the trade and the defense was awful.
they had 3 7 footers, they needed to trade one of them for a scoring guard.
@@ambientsounds5832 I guess . Wasn’t Garland a scorer? Just saying. I think they tweek it too much. Mitchell is great but wasn’t a great fit in my opinion and the reason coach got axed.
maybe they'll hire ol glenn. that is reasonable
That was a Klutch Donovan Mitchell firing. These coaches are overpaid babysitters for these clowns.
Lakers and cavs both have vacancies, if the lakers don’t commit to bronny at 17 then Cleveland it is. JJ reddick is getting a job wherever LBJ is at. I like JB personally he was pretty good in Memphis
Ai coaches gonna be a thing soon.
Come on Danny Boy , terrible move.....
Allen and garland and never there when they really need em
As a diehard Grizzlies fan for a long time, JB Bickerstaff ain't a good coach. Not one bit.
The Cavs fans wanted this lol
Lakers need to get JB
excellent take. i am not sure what wrong this coach did to get fired.... no confidence and steady hand in organization. well if it is a big player asking for this then the media needs to disclose to us why rick carlisle left dallas? this is why i like what miami has going on where no player is greater than the organization.
Why? Bad look for league
Idk if he should have been fired
Horrible
Good Night JB Is A Skype Goat😮
The big players didn’t trust his adjustments. Bruh who tf is garland and spida!?!? Fringe all star at best. Get outta here with tht. And this roster isn’t a championship caliber roster. Starting with Mitchell. He isn’t a 1. He’s a 2 at best. How you gonna discredit the coach for this smfh
These star players should just coach the team..you can't coach these dudes
Sooooo, what did you expect from your team??
Cause your Coach OVER PERFORMED.
What else was he supposed to do?!
If Donovan comes back Cleveland is the best job. Lakers and wizards r terrible
adrian griffin
darvin ham
frank v
jb
Ham the only one I could have seen coming other three had no time
especially griffin
Might be for Lebron
I don’t understand what Cavs management are thinking. Bickerstaff didn’t deserve to be fired, head scratcher for sure.
Coach Pop Since two thousand and fourteen is forty three games over five hundred😳😳😳😳😳 Not a good.
Coach
This shows the NBA is a joke and has no real accountability. Once you watch the nba as a tv show you understand its not real.
from what I heard online, Donovan Mitchell wasn't seeing eye to eye with JB as the Head Coach of the Cavs. Probably told Cavs Front Office, get rid of JB or I'm leaving this Summer. Smh
Are they trying to woo Lebron James back by drafting bronny.
But what would that have to do with Bickerstaff?
What is basketball anymore? NBA basketball will die down when all the veterans retire.
Lebron James had killed the nba with all these coaches firing players switching teams bully owners etc…
Only with lakers, before with cleveland stuck with Lue and built with him and in miami he was good with spolestra its a league issue not lebron
League full of cry babies 😂
🤔💬Pop.
Is a bad coach and no one talks about it.He can only win when he has hall of fame players.That's not a real coach.A real coach wins with less.He has been losing for almost thirteen year straight and no one talks about it😳😳😳💎💎
Cavs fan here. Sheed don't know what we've dealt with this guy Bickerstaff. He doesn't develop guys, poor rotations, doesn't have an offensive system. Cavs only scored over 100 twice in the playoffs. As a Cavs fan, we're happy about it! He was holding the talent back with his lack of imagination on offense...
Ok, who’s gonna do that? No current NBA coach on the radar short of MARK JACKSON is going to do that and nobody is hiring MARK JACKSON. Doc Rivers will be your next coach then you’d wish you’d had Bernie back….SMH🤦🏾♂️
@@SEEPHUS1 Cavs will be fine, our GM is good. He'll get the right coach. Cavs HC job will be desired because we have a good young team, perennial playoff contender, great ownership...
@@FloydPhillipsIIBetter hope yall get adrian griffin its alot of questions surrounding the cavs
@@kyvsthewrld Griffin? The coach that just got fired?
@@FloydPhillipsII He was fired but it definitely wasnt deserved def more of a reason beyond basketball he was a 2nd seed and got the bucks wins.
I think this might have something to do with Lebron thinking of going back to Cleveland. It doesn't make sense otherwise
People who don't support his firing really haven't paid attention to the Cavs. They should have swept NY last year. And ORL shouldn't have taken them to 7 games. He also doesn't understand how to get the best out of his players offensively. Ohio's teams are always ignored. People who didn't pay attention to them all season shouldn't be giving opinions on them so confidently. Watch over the next 3-5 years. The Cavaliers are gonna be this era's Spurs.
LeBron has something to do with it 💯
😂😂 the Queen at her work again behind closed doors, really
NBA is a clown show, no other sports is this juvenile.
European football coaches get the axe much quicker than NBA coaches do.
Now you bring Bronny in via whatever. LeBron shows up to play with the kid, and now he's back home, the conquering hero returning, and HE gets to choose anyone he cares to have as the Family Coach. Thanks for your time. Later.
Cavs only won 1 game right 4-1?? 2 wins away from the ECF 😆 🤣 😂