This was hugely helpful. I have the same model Char Broil grill and we just moved to a house that already has a natural gas connection outside. This video had way more detail than the one Char Broil has on their website and I now feel very confident that we can easily convert our grill to work with that very convenient gas line that we now have. Thank you so much!
+E. John Benson Hi E. John Benson, okay, that is a good suggestion. We would test for gas leaks by putting a mixture of dish soap and water on the connections, turn on the gas and look for bubbling. If no bubbles, all is well. We will make a video on that in the future. Thanks for the comment!
Just a tip from an automotive background.If your worried about dropping small pieces from a tool in an area you can't see or get your hands in.Like those orifices,you can put some grease or vaseline on the tool and it will let the small piece stick to it.I usually do it when working with small nuts or screws.
Hi deegan727, we will certainly give that a try the next time we are working in a tight space. Sound like it would help with drilling self piercing screws into duct work. Thanks for the tip!
Great video, thanks for taking the time to show me how to do it right. The instructions made it seem more complicated than it was. After watching your video it was easy peasy.
Thank you so much for your video. If it wasn't for you mentioning that exact bit size I would have gone out and bought the kit just for the right tool. Once I had the right bit it was just a breeze to remove the orifice. Thanks again.
Hi Burhan, yes, the Canadian geese are awesome, except perhaps when they honk in the morning! Thanks for your comment and we hope you have good luck with your grill conversion!
Excellent video. Char Broil has one also. But this is more complete. The Char Broil video does not show converting the side burner. This is a noticeable problem. So good job guys.
I'm assuming the char broil comes with an inner orifice that's already the correct size for NG, so when you take the LP orifice off, you already limited by the NG one internally somewhere. I think if I did this with my Weber (or most people for that matter), I'd get a pretty scary flame. Useful vid none the less, thanks.
Hi D Pavlovic, yes, certain Char Broil grills have been designed for conversion from propane to natural gas. Char Broil puts a sticker right on their grill that indicates it works for dual fuel. Not all grills can be converted. Thanks for your comments.
Nice video to help me understand the process. I wanted to view before I purchased any parts so I know I am getting the correct fittings and all pieces i will need. Really good to know I have to pull those little restrictor fittings out to go from propane to gas. Thanks
I Bought my Home in 23 ....and with it came a ...HEAVY DUTY BUILT ....ARKLA Natural Gas Grill ....I Have renovated the Grill Body ... replaced the old Grates with new porcelain grating ...and Now I'm Ready to replace the total burner system with new Natural Gas components ....but Very little luck locating... proper components ....So ....HERE I AM ... 😊👍🙏
We've had to run a generator off our natural gas line before and thankfully the line had been run many years ago. It wasn't in the most ideal place since it was at the back door entrance but the entrance we use. We made due but I would love to have another one ran to the 4th door and current patio area
Hey Pamela, You can extend or add to an existing natural gas set-up. Check out this video ( about the 7:40 min into it ) where you can see a whole manifold we had added that allowed this house the outdoor grill, ventless fireplace and new gas range. ruclips.net/video/kE7IoGiA1Ck/видео.html It is worth the expense in the long run. Thx for watching!
Very Good My Man, now I know what it all about to convert the stove into natural gas. All about allow more gas to mix with air inorder to give effective and efficient burn. Otherwise, it may not glow enough due to lack of Oxygene. I had blackening on my kitchen walls with my old cooker, that must’ve been the Orifices or Air blockages, what is regarded as ‘Air FueL Mixture ratio’ in Road going vehicles. Anyway all understood.! Thanks.!!!
Hey Whiskey.., All I know is that on dual fuel, when you remove the propane orifice, the remaining tube is sized correctly for natural gas. I don’t know what the exact tube dimension is for nat gas - just that it was engineered to be the correct size. If you could find the correct dimension, then you could measure yours and see if it is correct. Hope that helps.
Not all bbq’s can be so easily converted. Charbroil has made some of their products convertible but even some of Charbroil bbq’s are not ready-made for this easy conversion. Be careful.
Thank you soo much I really appreciate your video. Simple straight to the point and extra waste of video to make it longer than needed.!! You guys rock! Thank you
I own a Weber Genesis Gold propane grill and I'm hoping that a conversion kit is available. Until I watched this video I wasn't aware that there was a difference in the orifice size between propane and natural gas. If anyone reading this has converted their Weber gas grill from propane to natural gas please feel free to comment. Thank you for this video.
Hi dtowndano, we found this link with info about converting your Weber Genesis grill to propane. You could also call Weber technical support to see if you can order a conversion kit from them. Hope this helps, good luck! www.grill-repair.com/weber315orifice.html
@@Housebarons Thank you. I actually did go to the website using the link you provided and I ended up purchasing both orifices and a regulator they indicated would work for me Weber Grill. Weber doesn't offer a conversion kit and and states they don't recommend converting their LP grills to natural gas. Of course they do sell NG grills for $750-$900. I'll try my luck with the conversion process that might cost around $100 total. I own a Weber Genesis Gold B side burner control grill.
I believe the extra orifice that came with the kit goes on the side burner… or you could just drill out the original to 1/64… just a bit larger for natural gas to flow….
Maybe I missed something. Do you take the propane oriface out and replace it with a natural gas oriface, or do you take the propane oriface out and reassemble the pipe, and that's it?
Just take out original orifice. Only intended to work on DUEL FUEL grills. Duel fuel means the remaining hole after the propane nozzle is removed is the exact size for nat. gas. Thx for watching!
Hi Tim, yes with propane I do get a strange taste, could just be me, but anyway it is great to have an unlimited supply of natural gas and not have to fool with the propane tanks.
I guess it was not necessary to dope the final threaded connection to the grill?? Why not?? I need to make that connection for a client tomorrow and was hoping to learn if/why that was needed or not. Thanks
Hey Wallace, I do not remember if that was a flared fitting or not. If it’s flared, that’s a tight seal. If it is normal thread, pipe dope or gas tape is a good idea. Thx for watching!
My grill is meant to be able to be converted to natural gas, however, the model of the conversion kit suggested is not for sale anywhere. How much of a difference is there between conversion kits? Excellent video, by the way.
Hey Michelle, Thanks. Maybe check at one of the big box stores for a universal conversion kit. I’d guess the universal kit should have the necessary supplies. Hope it works out for you. Thx for watching.
Hi R S, that is unfortunate news. People must have been doing something wrong with the conversion process. Maybe you could call the manufacturer. Even though they don't sell them anymore, perhaps they will tell you where you can purchase one. Good luck!
Hi Chanaka, it is best to check your manual or check with your grill manufacturer to make sure propane to natural gas is okay for your particular grill. For our Char Broil grill, we only had to remove the orifices. There were no new orifices that needed to be installed. Good luck!
Hi Nick, I don't recall. It has been a while. You make a great point. When working with gas it is always wise to check for leaks. That can easily be done by applying soapy water around the connections and seeing if there is any bubbling. Thanks for the comment!
Great video just had one question I noticed you did not replace the orifice with a natural gas one, is that mandatory? I have a Evolution 5-Burner Grill and I wanted to know if I need to replace the orifice with natural gas ones or can take out the existing propane ones and leave it as is?
Hi Moss Support, for our Char-Broil grill we just had to remove the propane orifices and did not have to install any new ones. However, this particular grill is specifically designed to be able to convert from propane to natural gas. So you will have to call your grill manufacturer to find that answer. Thanks for your question and good luck with your conversion!
im having an issue with my blaze natural gas grill. i have cleaned out all the burners n replaced the regulator. my next step i thought was to replace the orafices, but i see in your video "converting a propane to gas" that you have removed all the orafices , should i do that instead of replacing them
Hey Barbara, Our specific grill is designated "Dual Fuel". So from the factory it comes ready for both fuels - depending on whether the orifices are in or out. A typical grill is not designed for that conversion conversion. As for removing your orifices, maybe give the manufacturer a call and clarify with them?? Thx for watching!
Hey Dima, I think it has to do with sizing -the propane orifice inserts are removed and the remaining opening is used for natural gas. But the size of that opening ( if dual fuel designed ) is precisely designed to accommodate nat’l gas.
Hey Paolo, Because our grill is made at the factory as a “dual fuel” grill, once we take out the old propane nozzles, the orifice that is left is exactly the right size for natural gas. That is what duel fuel means. So no new nozzles needed to be added . Thx for watching!
Hey Theodore, No. The grill was manufactured as “dual fuel “. That means the manufacturer design the remaining holes to be the correct size after the propane orifices were removed. Thx for watching!
You can convert to natural gas because that specific model of char broil can be converted to natural gas....not with all are posible..... (sorry for my English)
Hi HuSs, yes, exactly, we were able to convert our grill from propane to natural gas because it is a Char-broil dual fuel grill, which means it can be run on both propane or natural gas. Not all grills can use natural gas, so you would need to check your owner's manual or call the manufacturer of your grill to find if you can convert your grill. Thanks for your comment, and we think your English is outstanding!
You said natural gas needs larger orifices - but you went from small to none. Am I understanding that right? I see conversion kits with several size orifices to choose from. But why if you just remove them?
IF you have a charbroil w/ DUAL FUEL stamped on it as ours is, it was built at the factory with orifices included and sized for propane. If those are removed, the opening is now sized for nat gas - thus dual fuel without adding anything. I can’t speak to conversion kits but I’m guessing charbroil eliminated that need through initial design. If it doesn’t say dual fuel, you are attempting to modify something outside what we did. Hope that helps.
So when you took the orifice out! Did you have to replace it with a NG orifice or leave it ? Cause I saw you take the propane orifice out and that was it, or did you skip that whole process of inserting the new Orifice ?
Hey Lee, It’s made at factory to be “ dual fuel”. Nothing else was needed after removal - by their design. Not all grills are like this. Thx for watching!
Hey Super..., It depends on your local code and regulations - just check with your local building department. We did not need one for outside. Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons Thanks for the reply. Char-Broil wants to sell me a new manifold for $71 + shipping instead of 5 X $3 orifices. They won't even divulge the orifice size: "we don't have that information". Good thing I don't give up easily. Ha ha!
Hi Willfish4you, in the video at 7:38, you can see the orifice, which is the small part that gets removed. The orifices are like nozzles on a paint sprayer. 8:23 shows the orifice removal tool. 8:59 clearly shows 4 orifices that were removed and placed above and to the right of my cell phone. At 4:03 we describe what we are doing, which is removing the orifices that were initially on the propane grill initially. We didn't replace the propane orifices with new orifices. Basically natural gas comes out through a larger opening than propane, so once the propane orifices are removed it is ready for natural gas. Hope this helps!
I would like to make a small comment Regarding your videos one of the major things that is never mentioned What about Checking for leaks with soapy water after you made the connections to make sure there are NO leaks on your connections and it is not a great idea not to put a little coining compound on Brass connections as sometimes they are not a perfect Match also a Note Here in Australia There must be a pressure regulator between the house service and the Appliance as the pressure to the Appliance is set to 1 Kpa I know what I am talking about I spent over 15 years converting ALL type of Gas Appliances to Natural Gas and many times the Air intake sleve need to be adjusted on the burner so you don't have any yellow tips on your burner ( as testing for leaks put a little Dishwashing Detergent and Water into a Spray bottle ) we in the Gas industry we had a special mixture called" SNOOP" you only needed a very small amount in water to make a bottle of this fluid
Hey John, Thanks for taking the time to make such an informative comment. We skipped the soapy water test on the charbroil grill video.Oops! Not sure why that happened. However, on the more recent gas dryer video and yesterday’s gas stove video, those did include the soapy water test on the fitting connections we made in each. Thanks for calling attention to why this is important. Your expertise is appreciated. And BTW - thanks for letting us know where you are writing from! It makes this internet world a little more personal. So are you all getting ready for winter in Australia ???? Peace!
Your links to amazon don't work anymore. But great video thanks! I was watching to see if there is some kind of natural gas regulator, but it doesn't look like it. Just a hose. So simple.
Hey Justen, Thx for taking time to inform us about the amazon links. Looks like some products are no longer available or long delayed due to coved issues. Thx also for watching!
I want to convert a outdoor propane fire pit to natural gas , do I just take out the propane orifices ,or do I need to replace it with a N gas orifices ?
Hey Tom, Not sure about that idea. Our grill was DESIGNED from the factory as dual fuel. That’s why all we had to of was remove the orifices. Places do sell natural gas burners - maybe that’s a better way to go. Thx for watching.
I literally came up with this idea/ invention on my own a couple of years ago and now see something like this has already been invented. But I plan on introducing a more different and user friendly improved version of this type of product that I envisioned and will patent the more improved version for myself. A little healthy competition will only help with the best version of this type of product on the market. Look forward to putting my more improved and user friendly product out there for all of us BBQ Fanatic’s out there.
Hey Egeo, Not all allow it. If you want to be sure, call your grill manufacturer and they will be able to guide you. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Hi, I converted mine and now it's burning way too hot. Even setting the burner on the lowest setting it's reaching temps of over 550 so I put the little restrictor thing back on and now it's not getting hotter than 300. How can I fix this?
If you have a drill, bits and proper thread tap for the orifice threads, a vise or vise grips and a piece of scrap metal ... and are a patient handyperson try this... drill proper hole in metal to tap proper threads for propane orifices. Thread one orifice into the newly tapped hole. Determine the size of the orifice and take a drill bit ever slightly larger than the exisiting hole in the orifice. Repeat drilling out process for all orifices . Reinstall modified orifices into grill. Test run grill to see if temp is within your prefered range. If not hot enough repeat drilling process with next slightly larger bit on all orifices. Remember, you cannot undrill a hole.... Use drill bits that have the smallest diameter difference as you use them to enlarge the orifice holes. A set of "letter size"drill bits for drilling metal would be the best choice for this task. Buying the bits as a set and one proper thread tap would be cheaper than the propane to natural gas conversion kit. The bits can be used for other projects... hope this helps
Hey Xavier,, I believe that noise was me scraping my foot on the floor. Nothing to do with the gas. The gas is actually under very low pressure - shouldn’t make a sound - not like that at least. Thx for the question! Peace
Actually it was at about 16:02 and a small whitish projectile flew up from the bottom of the grill striking the brick wall about a foot above ground level just after you turned the gas supply on. I have a photo showing the line of trajectory when I stopped the frame.
@@mudmonkeyatvs I was surprised that the Charbroil grill conversion kit they used in this video did not come with a regulator. Yes residential natural gas pressure is very low but to ensure a proper and consistent gas flow it should be set to 4" w.c. with a regulator. A natural gas regulator may be purchased on Amazon for about $25 that is set for 1/2 lb psi incoming and is adjustable for 4" to 6" w.c. output. They are usually set at 4" w.c. out of the box which is what you want for most residential appliances including gas grills.
Hey Ray, Correct. We have a charbroil grill that has a DUEL FUEL tag inside. That means charbroil designed the grill with propane orifices that when removed, leave holes the necessary size for natural gas w/o the need for further modification. Not all grills are created equal in that respect. Hope that helps. Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons thanks for the reply, I bought a second hand 4 burner (Kitchen Aid) barbecue that I believe was a propane first and the previous owner hooked up to natural gas without removing or changing the orofices as the flame is high and orange rather than blue? Again thanks for your feedback! Ray
Hi Rich, yes, exactly, what you are trying to achieve in this process is to remove the orifices from the grill burners. These are basically little plugs that confine the amount of gas that comes out of the burners. Propane shoots out of a really small orifice. Natural gas uses a much larger opening. So, once you remove the orifices, you are set for natural gas. There are no replacement orifices. Good luck with your grill conversion!
Hi C Tilley, natural gas appliances inside houses typically have regulators. But to be sure, a call to your local gas company should be able to tell you whether the pressure at your house requires a regulator for your grill or not. Hope this helps, good luck with your conversion!
At 8:40 I swear got a text...I heard it.... My friend just drilled out the orifices a little bit bigger on his grill...now he burns everything...to a crisp....gas bill went up too. So I just asked for a natural gas BBQ when I bought my new one...easy...anyone wanna buy a full propane bottle? ..half price.
@@Housebarons I have a plumbing business, new construction and remodel, I don't advertise and stay busy. Somebody texted me today... wanted me to hook up his propane grill to gas....basically what you just did in the video...I'm like no thanks....I'd have to charge him $800.00...that's a DIY job if ever there was one. So I sent him your video....haven't heard from him.
Hi Cindy, bezels, ok, very good. We will keep that in mind for our next grill video. Even so, "fancy knobs" is way more fun to say. Thanks for your comment!
Stick with propane. If you run dry during a grill out, just call your local propane dealer and they'll come right over and top you up, I tell you hwhat. Keep it propane and taste the meat, not the heat.
One important thing is missing here. Removing LP orifice ONLY does not apply to every burner. You need to REPLACE the LP orifice with NG orifice if there is no built-in NG orifice behind LP orifice. Or explosion will happen. Even one grill can have some burners with built-in NG orifices but other burners without built-in orifice. Check operation manual for the safety.
Good point. Charbroil had the natural gas orifice built in so that step wasn’t necessary in this specific conversion. Converting other bbq’s will need to install the proper natural gas orifice.
Need to reduce combustion air inlet on the natural gas, notice the limiter plates (behind knobs) have a small round hole vs the larger OVAL air source hole for LP.
Great video! Thank you! I’m building a new house with natural gas line to the deck specifically for my grill. I’d rather not buy a brand new grill when mine now is perfectly fine. I think this will help me a ton!
Does anyone know how much it costs to have someone (the gas company? plumber?) run a gas line to the outside patio or deck? Had no idea natural gas grills existed (yes, been living in a cave), hence I inadvertently bought one at a garage sale, thinking it was propane. It is a giant rolling paper weight until I either get a gas line installed, or convert it to propane. Seems like it would be a massive advantage never to have to heft propane tanks around ever again, but if this is gonna cost somewhere in the thousands, think I'll try converting it.
Hi Admanda, not all grills can be converted from propane to natural gas, so be sure to get one that will. Char Broil has a sticker that says duel fuel. Let us know how your conversion goes, good luck!
You are smarter then every single person I have met that works at Lowe’s or Home Depot. Great vid!
Hi Rob, LOL, thanks, good luck if you decide to convert your grill!
This was hugely helpful. I have the same model Char Broil grill and we just moved to a house that already has a natural gas connection outside. This video had way more detail than the one Char Broil has on their website and I now feel very confident that we can easily convert our grill to work with that very convenient gas line that we now have. Thank you so much!
Great video! One suggestion would also to be show people how to look for leaks prior to first use.
+E. John Benson Hi E. John Benson, okay, that is a good suggestion. We would test for gas leaks by putting a mixture of dish soap and water on the connections, turn on the gas and look for bubbling. If no bubbles, all is well. We will make a video on that in the future. Thanks for the comment!
@@Housebarons at 16:02 you can see the gas poof out of the line you didn't test for leaks on... yikes.
@@keithwall1719 definitely a good way to blow up the house.
Hello very helpful video. I see that you took out the propane orifice but never installed the natural gas one. Do we need them or no
Just a tip from an automotive background.If your worried about dropping small pieces from a tool in an area you can't see or get your hands in.Like those orifices,you can put some grease or vaseline on the tool and it will let the small piece stick to it.I usually do it when working with small nuts or screws.
Hi deegan727, we will certainly give that a try the next time we are working in a tight space. Sound like it would help with drilling self piercing screws into duct work. Thanks for the tip!
Yes that works. Maybe also if it’s a slopping fit a piece of masking tape or electrical tape across socket to tighten socket fit to nut.
And call it a ratchet not a socket wrench lol
Great video, thanks for taking the time to show me how to do it right. The instructions made it seem more complicated than it was. After watching your video it was easy peasy.
Hey Russell,
Awesome, Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons I always thought you could just hook up a line to the house to eliminate the propane tank being that simple
Thank you so much for your video. If it wasn't for you mentioning that exact bit size I would have gone out and bought the kit just for the right tool. Once I had the right bit it was just a breeze to remove the orifice. Thanks again.
Hi Safa, nice! Glad that worked out for you. Thanks so much for your comment!
Very useful! Thank you. Also loved the Canada geese honks in the background!
Hi Burhan, yes, the Canadian geese are awesome, except perhaps when they honk in the morning! Thanks for your comment and we hope you have good luck with your grill conversion!
I thought Canada geese make more of a Honk-Eh sound.
Excellent video. Char Broil has one also. But this is more complete. The Char Broil video does not show converting the side burner. This is a noticeable problem. So good job guys.
Hi Robert, we really like this Char Broil grill. Hopefully you will too if you decide to get one. Thanks for your comment!
I'm assuming the char broil comes with an inner orifice that's already the correct size for NG, so when you take the LP orifice off, you already limited by the NG one internally somewhere. I think if I did this with my Weber (or most people for that matter), I'd get a pretty scary flame. Useful vid none the less, thanks.
Hi D Pavlovic, yes, certain Char Broil grills have been designed for conversion from propane to natural gas. Char Broil puts a sticker right on their grill that indicates it works for dual fuel. Not all grills can be converted. Thanks for your comments.
I like your theory. That would make the orifice in the kit a spare. The claim that it's the same as the ones being removed makes no sense.
I see where you took the old orifices out but did not see how you put the new ones in.
Nice video to help me understand the process. I wanted to view before I purchased any parts so I know I am getting the correct fittings and all pieces i will need. Really good to know I have to pull those little restrictor fittings out to go from propane to gas. Thanks
I Bought my Home in 23 ....and with it came a ...HEAVY DUTY BUILT ....ARKLA Natural Gas Grill ....I Have renovated the Grill Body ... replaced the old Grates with new porcelain grating ...and Now I'm Ready to replace the total burner system with new Natural Gas components ....but Very little luck locating... proper components ....So ....HERE I AM ... 😊👍🙏
We've had to run a generator off our natural gas line before and thankfully the line had been run many years ago. It wasn't in the most ideal place since it was at the back door entrance but the entrance we use. We made due but I would love to have another one ran to the 4th door and current patio area
Hey Pamela,
You can extend or add to an existing natural gas set-up. Check out this video ( about the 7:40 min into it ) where you can see a whole manifold we had added that allowed this house the outdoor grill, ventless fireplace and new gas range. ruclips.net/video/kE7IoGiA1Ck/видео.html
It is worth the expense in the long run.
Thx for watching!
Extremely clear and detailed step-by-step instructions.
Many thanks.
Hey Gennady Gerun,
Thanks for your kind comment and feedback. Great to have viewer input!
how so?? it didnt show him putting orifices back in or the difference in hole size!!!!!
Very Good My Man, now I know what it all about to convert the stove into natural gas. All about allow more gas to mix with air inorder to give effective and efficient burn. Otherwise, it may not glow enough due to lack of Oxygene. I had blackening on my kitchen walls with my old cooker, that must’ve been the Orifices or Air blockages, what is regarded as ‘Air FueL Mixture ratio’ in Road going vehicles.
Anyway all understood.!
Thanks.!!!
I did not honestly think it was this easy, I was 🤏 close to buying a natural gas bbq….thank you greatly appreciated
Hey Whiskey,
Just make sure you get a DUAL fuel grill. That makes it work easy!
Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons I have just a plane Jane propane it seems but it has the same set up as in the video?
Hey Whiskey..,
All I know is that on dual fuel, when you remove the propane orifice, the remaining tube is sized correctly for natural gas. I don’t know what the exact tube dimension is for nat gas - just that it was engineered to be the correct size. If you could find the correct dimension, then you could measure yours and see if it is correct.
Hope that helps.
Not all bbq’s can be so easily converted. Charbroil has made some of their products convertible but even some of Charbroil bbq’s are not ready-made for this easy conversion. Be careful.
Thank you soo much I really appreciate your video. Simple straight to the point and extra waste of video to make it longer than needed.!! You guys rock! Thank you
Hey Wolfmanj3,
Thank you - and thx for watching!
I own a Weber Genesis Gold propane grill and I'm hoping that a conversion kit is available. Until I watched this video I wasn't aware that there was a difference in the orifice size between propane and natural gas. If anyone reading this has converted their Weber gas grill from propane to natural gas please feel free to comment. Thank you for this video.
Hi dtowndano, we found this link with info about converting your Weber Genesis grill to propane. You could also call Weber technical support to see if you can order a conversion kit from them.
Hope this helps, good luck!
www.grill-repair.com/weber315orifice.html
@@Housebarons Thank you. I actually did go to the website using the link you provided and I ended up purchasing both orifices and a regulator they indicated would work for me Weber Grill. Weber doesn't offer a conversion kit and and states they don't recommend converting their LP grills to natural gas. Of course they do sell NG grills for $750-$900.
I'll try my luck with the conversion process that might cost around $100 total. I own a Weber Genesis Gold B side burner control grill.
Very helpful and informative. I don't foresee having any problems converting a grill.
6-1-2023, Super Awesome Video Sir!!! Thank you!!
Hey Vincent,
Awesome! Thx for the kind words and for watching!
Good job
Hey Eric,
Thx for watching!
I believe the extra orifice that came with the kit goes on the side burner…
or you could just drill out the original to 1/64… just a bit larger for natural gas to flow….
Hey Joan.
Thx for watching
Do you have one for Blackstone Hibachi Grill? Thank you!
Thank You so much!! Great and helpful info!
Hi Avlake2008, glad to hear this video was helpful. Hope your conversion goes well!
Thank you so much for this awesome video. It saved me a lot of headache Cheers!
Hey Edward,
So glad to hear that! Thx for the encouragement and for watching!
Maybe I missed something. Do you take the propane oriface out and replace it with a natural gas oriface, or do you take the propane oriface out and reassemble the pipe, and that's it?
Just take out original orifice. Only intended to work on DUEL FUEL grills. Duel fuel means the remaining hole after the propane nozzle is removed is the exact size for nat. gas.
Thx for watching!
So, with propane, you taste the heat, not the meat?
Hi Tim, yes with propane I do get a strange taste, could just be me, but anyway it is great to have an unlimited supply of natural gas and not have to fool with the propane tanks.
I guess it was not necessary to dope the final threaded connection to the grill?? Why not?? I need to make that connection for a client tomorrow and was hoping to learn if/why that was needed or not. Thanks
Hey Wallace,
I do not remember if that was a flared fitting or not. If it’s flared, that’s a tight seal. If it is normal thread, pipe dope or gas tape is a good idea.
Thx for watching!
Great video! Thanks.
Thanks for your comment, hope all goes well if you convert your grill!
My grill is meant to be able to be converted to natural gas, however, the model of the conversion kit suggested is not for sale anywhere. How much of a difference is there between conversion kits? Excellent video, by the way.
Hey Michelle,
Thanks. Maybe check at one of the big box stores for a universal conversion kit. I’d guess the universal kit should have the necessary supplies. Hope it works out for you.
Thx for watching.
Thanks, this video was very helpful.
Hey Tus,
Thanks for saying so . Thx also for watching.
I can’t find any info for a TURBO Grill. Made by BBQGalore. They said they don’t sell kits anymore due to liability.
Hi R S, that is unfortunate news. People must have been doing something wrong with the conversion process. Maybe you could call the manufacturer. Even though they don't sell them anymore, perhaps they will tell you where you can purchase one. Good luck!
When you remove orifices, do I have to install/ replace with gas orifices?
Hi Chanaka, it is best to check your manual or check with your grill manufacturer to make sure propane to natural gas is okay for your particular grill. For our Char Broil grill, we only had to remove the orifices. There were no new orifices that needed to be installed. Good luck!
HouseBarons thanks a lot, you are more than helpful.
Yea, I was like,now there is no gas orifice in the manifold. 🤦🏼
IM SORRY IF IDIDNT CATCH IT BUT DID YOU CHECK FOR LEAKS PRIER TO LIGHTING THE BBQ
Hi Nick, I don't recall. It has been a while. You make a great point. When working with gas it is always wise to check for leaks. That can easily be done by applying soapy water around the connections and seeing if there is any bubbling. Thanks for the comment!
Great video just had one question I noticed you did not replace the orifice with a natural gas one, is that mandatory?
I have a Evolution 5-Burner Grill and I wanted to know if I need to replace the orifice with natural gas ones or can take out the existing propane ones and leave it as is?
Hi Moss Support, for our Char-Broil grill we just had to remove the propane orifices and did not have to install any new ones.
However, this particular grill is specifically designed to be able to convert from propane to natural gas.
So you will have to call your grill manufacturer to find that answer.
Thanks for your question and good luck with your conversion!
Why didn't you put on a regulator?
@@aucoinrBecause it doesn't need one.
When in doubt ALWAYS read the manual and/or call the manufacturer!
What would be the issue/problem if you didn't have a dual fuel grill and converted it to natural gas anyway?
im having an issue with my blaze natural gas grill. i have cleaned out all the burners n replaced the regulator. my next step i thought was to replace the orafices, but i see in your video "converting a propane to gas" that you have removed all the orafices , should i do that instead of replacing them
Hey Barbara,
Our specific grill is designated "Dual Fuel". So from the factory it comes ready for both fuels - depending on whether the orifices are in or out. A typical grill is not designed for that conversion conversion. As for removing your orifices, maybe give the manufacturer a call and clarify with them??
Thx for watching!
Were are new orifices? Rated for natural gas pressure.
Hey Dima,
I think it has to do with sizing -the propane orifice inserts are removed and the remaining opening is used for natural gas.
But the size of that opening ( if dual fuel designed ) is precisely designed to accommodate nat’l gas.
What is the reason why not all LP grills can be converted ?
Hey Michelle,
I’d guess it has to do with the size of the orifice. It has to be precise.
Thx for watching!
Thank you! Nice video and really helpful!
Hey Rick,
Thx! and Thanks for watching!
good job very helpful
Hi Izzy, great, glad to hear this was helpful.
Thanks for the comment! Did you convert your grill?
What happened at the 16:02 mark?
Anyway, great video. Thank you!
Hey Carlton,
Not sure. That sound? Probably dropped something in the background. No worries….
Thx for watching!
when did you remove the propane gas nozzles then replaced with natural gas nozzles ?
Hey Paolo,
Because our grill is made at the factory as a “dual fuel” grill, once we take out the old propane nozzles, the orifice that is left is exactly the right size for natural gas. That is what duel fuel means.
So no new nozzles needed to be added .
Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons thanks
awesome This Video really help me OUT!!! Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Roger,
Thx for watching!
So if mine isn't dual fuel, could I just buy orifices made for natural gas and screw them in?
Hey Justen,
I would not do that without consulting the manufacturer. Ours was designed to be dual fuel.
Thx for watching!
Thank you!
Hi Shane, you are welcome! Did you convert your grill?
Awesome.
Thank you Sir
Hey David ,
Thx for watching!
Did you put new orifice in the grill
Hey Theodore,
No. The grill was manufactured as “dual fuel “. That means the manufacturer design the remaining holes to be the correct size after the propane orifices were removed.
Thx for watching!
Very Good!..
Hi Carl, thanks! If you convert your grill let us know how it goes. Good luck!
You can convert to natural gas because that specific model of char broil can be converted to natural gas....not with all are posible..... (sorry for my English)
Hi HuSs, yes, exactly, we were able to convert our grill from propane to natural gas because it is a Char-broil dual fuel grill, which means it can be run on both propane or natural gas. Not all grills can use natural gas, so you would need to check your owner's manual or call the manufacturer of your grill to find if you can convert your grill. Thanks for your comment, and we think your English is outstanding!
Thank you for your video.
Hey Hong,
Thank you for watching!
Taste the meat not the heat ... Hank Hill
I’m confused. You removed the orifices but didn’t replace with larger ones???
You said natural gas needs larger orifices - but you went from small to none. Am I understanding that right? I see conversion kits with several size orifices to choose from. But why if you just remove them?
IF you have a charbroil w/ DUAL FUEL stamped on it as ours is, it was built at the factory with orifices included and sized for propane. If those are removed, the opening is now sized for nat gas - thus dual fuel without adding anything.
I can’t speak to conversion kits but I’m guessing charbroil eliminated that need through initial design.
If it doesn’t say dual fuel, you are attempting to modify something outside what we did. Hope that helps.
So when you took the orifice out! Did you have to replace it with a NG orifice or leave it ? Cause I saw you take the propane orifice out and that was it, or did you skip that whole process of inserting the new Orifice ?
Hey Lee,
It’s made at factory to be “ dual fuel”. Nothing else was needed after removal - by their design. Not all grills are like this.
Thx for watching!
Hi quick question, so it does not need a gas regulator?? Please help
Hey Super...,
It depends on your local code and regulations - just check with your local building department. We did not need one for outside. Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons thank u so much. I'll be completing my setup here pretty soon. Video was really helpful, good job.
Thank you so much for your efforts and for making this video.
Hi Brian, our pleasure, so excited that grilling season is here again!
Thanks for your comment!
Good stuff tanks
Thanks, good luck if you convert your grill!
I'm converting the other way to LP from NG. Do you know the thread width of the orifice? It appears to be 7mm . I know the hole is #133.
Hey Sir,
We’ve never done that so we could only guess. I’d call the grill manufacturer.
Thx for asking though.
@@Housebarons Thanks for the reply. Char-Broil wants to sell me a new manifold for $71 + shipping instead of 5 X $3 orifices. They won't even divulge the orifice size: "we don't have that information". Good thing I don't give up easily. Ha ha!
Hey Sir,
That is very interesting! Guess you have to be persistent.
Now you're going the right way son.
You did not show the new orifice install or the detail of what it looked like when you took the old ones out.
Hi Willfish4you, in the video at 7:38, you can see the orifice, which is the small part that gets removed. The orifices are like nozzles on a paint sprayer. 8:23 shows the orifice removal tool. 8:59 clearly shows 4 orifices that were removed and placed above and to the right of my cell phone. At 4:03 we describe what we are doing, which is removing the orifices that were initially on the propane grill initially. We didn't replace the propane orifices with new orifices. Basically natural gas comes out through a larger opening than propane, so once the propane orifices are removed it is ready for natural gas. Hope this helps!
that was Great! thank you for your video
Hey H P,
Glad to hear it. Really appreciate you taking the time to let us know. Thank you for watching!
I would like to make a small comment Regarding your videos one of the major things that is never mentioned What about Checking for leaks with soapy water after you made the connections to make sure there are NO leaks on your connections and it is not a great idea not to put a little coining compound on Brass connections as sometimes they are not a perfect Match also a Note Here in Australia There must be a pressure regulator between the house service and the Appliance as the pressure to the Appliance is set to 1 Kpa I know what I am talking about I spent over 15 years converting ALL type of Gas Appliances to Natural Gas and many times the Air intake sleve need to be adjusted on the burner so you don't have any yellow tips on your burner ( as testing for leaks put a little Dishwashing Detergent and Water into a Spray bottle ) we in the Gas industry we had a special mixture called" SNOOP" you only needed a very small amount in water to make a bottle of this fluid
Hey John,
Thanks for taking the time to make such an informative comment. We skipped the soapy water test on the charbroil grill video.Oops! Not sure why that happened. However, on the more recent gas dryer video and yesterday’s gas stove video, those did include the soapy water test on the fitting connections we made in each. Thanks for calling attention to why this is important. Your expertise is appreciated.
And BTW - thanks for letting us know where you are writing from! It makes this internet world a little more personal.
So are you all getting ready for winter in Australia ????
Peace!
Your links to amazon don't work anymore. But great video thanks! I was watching to see if there is some kind of natural gas regulator, but it doesn't look like it. Just a hose. So simple.
Hey Justen,
Thx for taking time to inform us about the amazon links. Looks like some products are no longer available or long delayed due to coved issues. Thx also for watching!
@@Housebarons oh, so maybe they'll be back. I see 👍
I want to convert a outdoor propane fire pit to natural gas , do I just take out the propane orifices ,or do I need to replace it with a N gas orifices ?
Hey Tom,
Not sure about that idea. Our grill was DESIGNED from the factory as dual fuel. That’s why all we had to of was remove the orifices. Places do sell natural gas burners - maybe that’s a better way to go.
Thx for watching.
@@Housebarons thank you very much
Very helpful!
Hey Melissa,
Glad to hear it! Thx for watching....
We have bent parts on the grill
Yikes. I’d return it. Thx for watching!
I literally came up with this idea/ invention on my own a couple of years ago and now see something like this has already been invented. But I plan on introducing a more different and user friendly improved version of this type of product that I envisioned and will patent the more improved version for myself. A little healthy competition will only help with the best version of this type of product on the market. Look forward to putting my more improved and user friendly product out there for all of us BBQ Fanatic’s out there.
Can you do this to any bbq or only to those who allow this kind of conversion ?
Hey Egeo,
Not all allow it. If you want to be sure, call your grill manufacturer and they will be able to guide you.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for watching.
Hi, I converted mine and now it's burning way too hot. Even setting the burner on the lowest setting it's reaching temps of over 550 so I put the little restrictor thing back on and now it's not getting hotter than 300. How can I fix this?
If you have a drill, bits and proper thread tap for the orifice threads, a vise or vise grips and a piece of scrap metal ... and are a patient handyperson try this... drill proper hole in metal to tap proper threads for propane orifices. Thread one orifice into the newly tapped hole. Determine the size of the orifice and take a drill bit ever slightly larger than the exisiting hole in the orifice. Repeat drilling out process for all orifices . Reinstall modified orifices into grill. Test run grill to see if temp is within your prefered range. If not hot enough repeat drilling process with next slightly larger bit on all orifices. Remember, you cannot undrill a hole.... Use drill bits that have the smallest diameter difference as you use them to enlarge the orifice holes. A set of "letter size"drill bits for drilling metal would be the best choice for this task. Buying the bits as a set and one proper thread tap would be cheaper than the propane to natural gas conversion kit. The bits can be used for other projects... hope this helps
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hold it!.........soap bubble test ?it is easy as heck
True, the soap bubble test is easy as heck.
What was that little tiny 'pop' when you opened the gas valve at the 16:00 mark? Was that a little gas leak?
Hey Xavier,,
I believe that noise was me scraping my foot on the floor. Nothing to do with the gas. The gas is actually under very low pressure - shouldn’t make a sound - not like that at least.
Thx for the question! Peace
I heard that too. A projectile can be seen shooting up past his wrist.
Actually it was at about 16:02 and a small whitish projectile flew up from the bottom of the grill striking the brick wall about a foot above ground level just after you turned the gas supply on. I have a photo showing the line of trajectory when I stopped the frame.
Where was the new regulator I didn’t see it ?
You don't need any regulator as the natural gas pressure coming from the house is already low pressure
Hubert Cormier musique is this true? I just was thinking I need a regulator 🤔
@@mudmonkeyatvs I was surprised that the Charbroil grill conversion kit they used in this video did not come with a regulator. Yes residential natural gas pressure is very low but to ensure a proper and consistent gas flow it should be set to 4" w.c. with a regulator. A natural gas regulator may be purchased on Amazon for about $25 that is set for 1/2 lb psi incoming and is adjustable for 4" to 6" w.c. output. They are usually set at 4" w.c. out of the box which is what you want for most residential appliances including gas grills.
Good informative video, my question is, you removed original orfisses and didn’t replace them?
Hey Ray,
Correct. We have a charbroil grill that has a DUEL FUEL tag inside. That means charbroil designed the grill with propane orifices that when removed, leave holes the necessary size for natural gas w/o the need for further modification.
Not all grills are created equal in that respect.
Hope that helps.
Thx for watching!
@@Housebarons thanks for the reply, I bought a second hand 4 burner (Kitchen Aid) barbecue that I believe was a propane first and the previous owner hooked up to natural gas without removing or changing the orofices as the flame is high and orange rather than blue? Again thanks for your feedback! Ray
add a small magnet to that tool
so there are no replacement orafice's for the natural gas? it's just wide open?
Hi Rich, yes, exactly, what you are trying to achieve in this process is to remove the orifices from the grill burners. These are basically little plugs that confine the amount of gas that comes out of the burners. Propane shoots out of a really small orifice. Natural gas uses a much larger opening. So, once you remove the orifices, you are set for natural gas. There are no replacement orifices. Good luck with your grill conversion!
Natural gas is and has a regulator at the meter!
9/32nd socket.
8:30 Don't use a wobble extension where the socket needs to be kept aligned. Or use the best designed extensions that both wobble and lock straight.
Hey We,
Thx for the tip!
Thx for watching too!
The second person that came on verbalization was not clear
experience
Do I need a regulator for natural gas? I don’t want to blow my house up.. the wife would kill me
Hi C Tilley, natural gas appliances inside houses typically have regulators. But to be sure, a call to your local gas company should be able to tell you whether the pressure at your house requires a regulator for your grill or not. Hope this helps, good luck with your conversion!
@@Housebarons Can I just make the orifice bigger by drilling it on a specified diameter if the issue with natural gas is bigger holes ?
Great video
who would I hire to do this for me? A handyman or plumber?
Hey Bobbie,
Plumbers do this kind of thing. They aren’t cheap but better to have it done by those with training.
Thx for the question.
At 8:40 I swear got a text...I heard it....
My friend just drilled out the orifices a little bit bigger on his grill...now he burns everything...to a crisp....gas bill went up too. So I just asked for a natural gas BBQ when I bought my new one...easy...anyone wanna buy a full propane bottle? ..half price.
Hey Read…,
Thx for the input and thx for watching!
@@Housebarons I have a plumbing business, new construction and remodel, I don't advertise and stay busy. Somebody texted me today... wanted me to hook up his propane grill to gas....basically what you just did in the video...I'm like no thanks....I'd have to charge him $800.00...that's a DIY job if ever there was one. So I sent him your video....haven't heard from him.
Thier is nothing better than barbecue !
Hey Oc......,
Often true! Thx for watching!
He’s a home renovator and doesn’t know the name of an Allen Wrench. 🤷🏻♂️
yeet
They're not called "dials" or "fancy knobs." They're called bezels.
Hi Cindy, bezels, ok, very good. We will keep that in mind for our next grill video. Even so, "fancy knobs" is way more fun to say. Thanks for your comment!
Or drill the orifices out lol
Hey max…,
Risky.
Thx for watching.
Stick with propane. If you run dry during a grill out, just call your local propane dealer and they'll come right over and top you up, I tell you hwhat. Keep it propane and taste the meat, not the heat.
Why Does it take these guys so long to get to the point?
😂
Because he doesn’t know the difference between a socket and a allen wrench 🤦🏻♂️
🇺🇲 I LOVE COOKING WITH SPIRE NATURAL GAS !!! 🇺🇲 🙏 ....GOD BLESS AMERICA 🥔🍗🥩🍔🌭
One important thing is missing here. Removing LP orifice ONLY does not apply to every burner. You need to REPLACE the LP orifice with NG orifice if there is no built-in NG orifice behind LP orifice. Or explosion will happen. Even one grill can have some burners with built-in NG orifices but other burners without built-in orifice. Check operation manual for the safety.
Good point. Charbroil had the natural gas orifice built in so that step wasn’t necessary in this specific conversion. Converting other bbq’s will need to install the proper natural gas orifice.
Whats the difference between the two?
LP gas tank has much higher pressure than NG gas in the pipe, thus requests smaller orifice, or explosion.
Thank you!
Need to reduce combustion air inlet on the natural gas, notice the limiter plates (behind knobs) have a small round hole vs the larger OVAL air source hole for LP.
Great video! Thank you!
I’m building a new house with natural gas line to the deck specifically for my grill. I’d rather not buy a brand new grill when mine now is perfectly fine. I think this will help me a ton!
Hey Zach,
Good job and good luck!
Does anyone know how much it costs to have someone (the gas company? plumber?) run a gas line to the outside patio or deck? Had no idea natural gas grills existed (yes, been living in a cave), hence I inadvertently bought one at a garage sale, thinking it was propane. It is a giant rolling paper weight until I either get a gas line installed, or convert it to propane. Seems like it would be a massive advantage never to have to heft propane tanks around ever again, but if this is gonna cost somewhere in the thousands, think I'll try converting it.
In California it cost me $100
Nice tutorial. Get a spray can and paint those black iron fittings; those rust quick. Your plumber should have used galvanized fittings for outdoors.
Hi Nelson, will do, thanks for pointing that out!
I like King of the Hill, but sorry Hank, I prefer natural gas.
Btw, thanks for the video and I'm gonna try this for off the grid barbecuing. :)
Awesome Seph, hope that works out for you, happy grilling!
Well son I respect your right to choose.
Thank you. The house I’m buying has the line already built in in my back patio and now I’m a buy a gas grill and do this. Thank you so much again.
Hi Admanda, not all grills can be converted from propane to natural gas, so be sure to get one that will. Char Broil has a sticker that says duel fuel. Let us know how your conversion goes, good luck!
Good work thanks for showing me now im going to do this on my channel 😅