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Bruh why are people so pressed about cry element. Ayaka still has higher scaling than navia (if I'm not tripping). Even outside of freeze you can use bennet and other supports to focus on her damage instead of freeze. Same with rosario, her scaling isn't bad and she snapshots (even if her stupid burst doesn't move). So she can at least be used in melt teams with bennet and xiangling.
"As useful as yoimiya's charge attack" No. Yoimiya scalea with attack at least. If they made Yoimiya's extra arrows scale with HP, then you'd be 100% correct
You're telling me that a Fontaine character *really* gains a tremendous amount of value from pulling their first two Constellations and their signature weapon?!? In all seriousness though, I'm kind of sick of all of the whale-baiting that this region has brought us and I hope Natlan changes for the better (it won't).
Ngl every region has a shit character Mondstat : klee Liyue : qiqi Inazuma : Ayato Sumeru : Dehya Fontaine: Sigewinne Nathalan : loading ... Russia country : loading ....
Sumeru 5* were trash imo, Fontaine’s were much stronger but it sucks they need cons and weapons to be ultra cracked. Clorinde, Sige, and Emilie definitely fell off probably because they just aren’t as anticipated or given screen time like other units. Besides we’re going to Natlan so later unite like this just don’t really matter like that.
They should've make her have a unique mechanics where when you attack the enemy who's trapped inside the bubble, the enemy took more elemental damage (like a debuff) 😢
@@nikumilotic1333 I think it's because meta vids aren't always accurate. Like we've obviously all seen the bad tier lists. You've got a point but ppl also just get really defensive when someone shit talks their favourite
@@TheLovedUnbound She's more Melt oriented than freeze, and she's still BIS for reverse Melt, but with her Burst being circle impact like it is, it makes her really awkward, especially for the current Abyss cycle...
@alatus_knight mid at worst, she's definitely better than the low tier characters, she's still apart of good 4 star comps most notably gaming melt and reverse melt. Depending on what your criteria is for low tier maybe but I really don't think so personally would say she's closer to being good than being bad
Sigewinne is the playable embodiment of that bubble gun they give us many months ago. About that weird ecstatic men in her demo, you can thank those weird Japanese ads for the inspiration.
If only her burst lasted 3 seconds longer and gave her 2 stacks of convalescence per hit her kit would actually make sense. will it be good? That is debatable but shed actually have a comprehensive kit and a team archetype unique to her
Sigewinne is only good for Furina, but until you have C6 Furina, it's basically always better to pull a Furina con than Sigewinne, since Furina has amazing cons and it means that you can use a slot for someone better than Sigewinne. And then at C6, where there's finally no more cons to get for Furina...she no longer needs healers so there's even less reason to pull for Sigewinne.
@@TheRoleplayer40k Sure, and she's a lot of fun to play, especially at higher cons. You probably won't regret pulling for the adorable thing, but if we're discussing pull value, how good she is and what teams she's good on is quite relevant. If I didn't have Kokomi and her doughnut, I'd probably get her, cause I really like her, I just don't need a second Kokomi when I already love my mermaid.
I'm honestly sure that Sigewinne is a Kuki/Thoma situation. In fact, a bond of life off-field skill using character sounds like exactly what we would get to compliment her kit. Idk personally. I can't call her bad. I'd rather just say her potential is being gatekept by time. But it's not like Hoyo could wait until those characters are brought into the game before releasing Sigewinne. Do you think she should've just had a different kit altogether to make more sense in the current state of the game?
I think it’s fine to release characters with Future units in mind but if it is also fair to say to skip them until those future characters come out just due to there being no guarantee on how good they’ll be
That's the problem for me. You mention 4 star chars. Being 5 star is the reason why I never pull Shenhe despite how good she is. Skipping her allow me to get other necessary 5 stars and constelation.
@@agadexis maybe there will be a character good in a team where she's the best choice of a healer for furina because right now most teams prefer other healers
I wish hoyo would give characters direct buffs like they did with ziongli so they could bring underpreforming characters to the current meta. Im sure it would incentivize people to want to pull for those characters
Yeah the worst is when a new character comes out and they just... aren't very good (Dehya, Chiori, Sigewinne, Kaveh). Would be nice if Hoyo actually directly buffed weaker characters, especially the 5 stars.
It's illegal tho?? They can technically get sued for releasing a character right, then someone spends money to get that specific character with thay specific kit then hoyoverse changes it meaning you just spent money on something you didn't want. Think of it like paying for a burger, even though your favorite food is pizza, then the restaurant gives you a pizza instead because you like that more. You can sue them.
In nikke they managed to fix old characters via new optional slot item which is changing skills and stats. Basically nothing changed in default character state but you can optionally improve it. It is your choice do it or not 😂 @@putent9623
the issue with buffing released characters is nerfing and reworks if you buff a character who on release is objectively bad (say kokomi who was pretty bad until dendro released) then she may be way too overpowered as new artifact sets or characters that benefit from her kit are added or if they overtune the character and are forced to nerf or rework, then people who paid for the character will get scammed basically its like what putent9623 said but instead of them giving you a pizza, you order a double patty burger, they give you a 3 patty burger and then they take all 3 patties and just leave the cheese because 3 patties was just too much
Honestly I wish they made her give everyone BOL it’s kinda of annoying have to pick up the droplets otherwise , or make her buff by the amount of entities on field so her buff for furina will be somewhat useful ( yae if you like) , but most likely murata will have the BOL stuff
She has a unique and cute design thats it her E is lackluster her burst is nice but lacks the dmg and neuvillete wont need her since his burst and e gives him 9 bubbels to pick up combined with a shielder like zhongli or one of the 4* he never has to worry about getting hit so nah hard pass. also trying sigewinne in the test trail was the longest one so far to complete and that says a lot
Why is Mihoyo so against making hydro 4 stars? Last one was Candace in 3.1 D: Also!! Keep up the good work!!! Happy Pride Month Flip!!! 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈 We are so proud of you!!!
I mean she has synergy with and enables Furina, that automatically makes her useable, it's just that we already have other characters that can do that and probably better at that. So I don't think she's terrible but unless you don't have any of the alternatives already, the actual pull value feels very low. Though she is the first hydro off field full party healer so if you happen to require that specific utility for a Furina team then she would be the go-to option, but it's hard to think of too many teams that would demand that right now.
Huffing biggest copium that she will work in the future, for now I'm going by just her cuteness alone. I do wish they stopped releasing char cons that... just should be in their main kit. It's like they raise cost of a complete character from 180 to 360 pulls
Ngl she is only really useful at C2 with elegy. But i feel like if you like sigewine you can definitely turn her into a sub dps with furina, kazuha etc cause her Q is like a single neuv CA or less so idk.
as of now, according to paimon.moe, the current ratio of pulls for this banner cycle is 4.2k sigewinnes to 14.1k furinas. there are 235% more furinas than sigewinnes wished for; and it hasn't even been a week, so who knows how much that'll change. it'll be funny if somehow furina can surpass her first banner, where she was wished for 1409% more than her rerun counterpart, baizhu.
Seems like flop releases are getting more and more common these days. Honestly not surprising with how they just keep on releasing sidegrades to existing characters. Although I doubt Sigewinne will beat Baizhu's and Lyney's records, or anti-records for that matter, those two did so horrible that it's borderline impossible to beat them, especially the latter.
I know physical comps are nowhere near meta, but I think she could be a solid pick for Eula teams. Sigewinne's got a group heal on skill that requires practically no field time which no other character has. You can slap an Ocean Hued Clam set on her which she can easily max the damage out at C0. OHC damage also increases with phys-shred and OHC damage ignores 100% enemy defense with decent AoE which makes it pretty future proof. I'm thinking something like Eula, Sigewinne, Furina, and Fischl/Raiden could at least push the limits of phys team comps. Eula energy problems might be a concern, despite Sigewinne producing 4 energy particles on skill and I doubt it would put physical on top of the meta, but I do think it's still noteworthy.
I use her on a team with Nahida, Furina, and Yae Miko. Three units that all do off field skill damage and eat up her buffs immediately. She's pretty great!
This is the result of Hoyo deciding it would be a good idea to pump out 17 units per year and honestly thinking this was a good idea. No one except whales and fans of this character pulled her because yet again such a niche unit and such a cost intensive way to build her as she needs her higher constellations when multiple other units outperform her by a lot at c0. If they would just rerun other units more diligently instead of pumping out sh*t a$$ units. Older units meanwhile don't get to see the light of day anymore Zhong li hasn't been seen in 14 months is absolutely ridiculous.
@@FliponYT Is it because of the Clorinde team she has? Because even so I respectfully disagree. Only thing Qiqi has going for her over Sigewinne is that you don't actually have to put in the wishes to get her lol. Also, Sigewinne buffs the better character (And more than one character if we're counting other off field skill based characters) js js
She's actually not that terrible, but just a dedicated Furina support & buffer. Everything in Sigewinnes Kit AND constellations is about supporting Furina to do more dmg. At least Sigewinnes has a role, meanwhile Dehya still hass no relevant purpose
All they needed to do was to make it so her skill gives BoL to the whole team per bounce so people who have Sigewinne would want to farm the Harmonic Whimsy set because she makes it viable on any character. Really simple: Bubble does 8 bounces, each adding 15% BoL, after the bubble pops the whole team gets healed over time, that way she could be a perfect support for any Fontaine character, Heals HP constantly to counter the constant HP drain, full team off field heals for Furina and BoL that won't be cleared by Clorinde or Arlecchino
I can tell it felt like other TCs and Guidemakers were scrapping the bottom of the barrel when it seemed the best praise they could give her was "well her mono hydro Furina team is better than Kokomi's." Releasing a limited 5 star who is completely codependent on another limited 5 star to be viable and even in those team comps they're not exactly stellar doesn't give them a strong case. I also agree the whole "she'll get better in Natlan" is cope. People claimed the same thing about Dehya's kit and she technically works as a flexslot option for Lyney/Neuvillette/Wriothesley but that didn't suddenly fix her problems.
Everyone should keep in mind many other TCs are literal paid shills in the Hoyocreator program, so they will never criticize disappointments from Hoyoverse, no matter how obvious they are
Oh yeah i almost forgot, for anyone reading her elemental skill buff is a 10-20% increase for furina assuming only furina is in the party (so that the stacks dong get depleted too quickly).
Flip risks ending up on Neuvillette’s black list for criticising his precious daughter 😁 She seems like a cake topper. Looks cute and gives some whimsical flair to the presentation. But you could easily take it off or put something else on it and the cake would still taste exactly the same.
For C0 Sigewinne to me it seems like they just last minute decided to make a 4 star a 5 star character than changed the cons to be whale bait, I got one of her cause adorable design but truly sad, I wish she was at least as good as Jeanne maybe in the future people will find a way to make cracked although I'm probably just sniffing copium.
This is really bad because if people already have issues with the game and frustrations, these badly designed characters WILL make them quit the game. This is such a disappointing update after numerous mediocre updates.
FINALY!!! someone not wearing pink glasses and not saying she great. want a healer? there are many better choice. kokomi, barbara, noelle (which can also shield), baizhu (he got his last banner very recently, so if one really did need a healer, why did said player didn't take him). hell, even furina can be a far better healer then sigewinne. you want a hydro archer? isn't yelan making her worthless? you want to apply hydro? again, so many better options. from my point of view, i would say she's the worst character created so far, but since she's new, i'll be generous and saying she's equal to dehya and aloy, but frankly, i'm pretty sure both of them can be better then sigewinne. yet another exemple that just because a character is 5 star doesn't mean she's better then a 4 star. my expectations were already low for her, but... ishhh. sigewinne banner = hardpass.
Damn. Sigewinne is one of my favorite character designs. I didn’t realize her C2 was that strong. They should totally add her to the standard banner, then I can eventually get her without wasting too much lol. I wish she was good bc I would have totally pulled for her.
I've always thought shenhe was extremely overrated and rather disappointing because she was limited to buffing 5 hits per character But now i am shown sigewinne who buffs 10 hits teamwide Makes me wonder what their aim is with these hit counter buff type characters
the fact that I've barely seen any guides on her (not to mention guides usually have a very positive statement in the thumbnail, which I've seen none of) is telling
Sigewinne could have fixed by one simple change. Just turn her into a 4 star, she resembles one anyways. Almost like she was originally designed to be one.
Why couldn’t she be a 4 star bro Her kit is confusing and underwhelming like one so I don’t understand the reason for making her a 5 star unless it’s for future impact
Tried to get her and lost to Keqing c3. I just collect units and have every 5star except for Dehya, but not gonna waste my pulls anymore. I have guarantee and if next banners will have something good - I will roll there and maybe grab Sigiwini on her rerun.
I feel that if they wanted her bad they would have put her on the standard, although I don’t know how she will work on a team mostly likely in Natlan is when she will get a good team but she is made to be on field in her burst and her application is bad on her skill. She has bol and it seems that might be a big thing in Natlan and maybe the pyro archon gives bol and then Sigewinne can heal really well.
As someone who has stopped topping up since 3.5(Dehya's fiasco), I do not regret spending 30k primos to get her to C1. Imo, only her burst is out of place and badly designed. Other kits of her works as intended. The best team for her as I have tried so far are Furina, Yae, Nahida or Clorinde, Furina, Kazuha. HB with Kuki or Raiden is fine as it should be. For those who have played the game long enough and have an adequate roster, she is a collectible otherwise go for Furina's cons. Btw, her C1 makes her buff to E skills up to 18 times. Her hydro application at C1 is still worse than Kokomi's but enough for me to play Ayaka's Freeze team, may be it's because of Kazuha's swirl idk but it is playable.
"Noelle can be a solid dps but nothing noteworthy". This guy is a joke. Wtf😂 furina made noelle realize her full potential. What is so noteworthy about that ?
With healing she is way better than kokomi and she buffs your sub dps up to over 50%. I don't really see how she is somehow a bad character. Literally Shenhe's buff but better
I remember someone putting Sigewinne higher then whst she deserved on a tier list qnd someone told me shea literally the best character for mono hydro Ayato. 1. Ayato is mid 2. You are only limiting your options for teammates by playing mono hydro and it's not like Ayato benefits from mono hydro anyways.
4.7 is surely a patch of all time. Clorinde and Alhaitham, an okay dps vs one of the best dps in the game. Furina and Siegewinne, arguably a top 3 unit in the whole game vs the worst limited 5*.
I don't have Furina and I wished for Sigewinne and I got her. I don't regret it lol. Just play the character you like. I've already seen 8 other "Why Sigewinne is bad" videos so this is nothing new xD. It's just hilarious because everyone who is a meta slave was complaining about Kokomi and Baizhu when they were newly released about similar reasons UNTIL the new area came out and suddenly there was synergy.
she feels like weapon pull/con pull bait. i think hoyo has finally realized c6 is just too much and most people, whales or otherwise, won't c6. so now theyre trying to encourage c2/weapon spending
I spend 161 wishes for Furina C1 and a Sigewinne... I got C2 Keqing, a Sigewinne and C14 Noelle Most frustrating pulls in my life definitely would do it again
I don't think Sigewinne is THAT terrible. She gives +15% skill damage to off field elemental skill users, and heals a lot. Also, she has the potential to become pretty good with Natlan characters (chars at the end of old region are always good for the new region)
I really hope it'll be a Kuki case otherwise wtf did they cook But even then, pneumousia will be useless (if it's not already useless lmao) and the negative hydro app will impact her upon future characters that could've synergised with her if she had an actual hydro app Uhh Sonic Unleashed ost ily
@@EugeneDorkdinkletonBonquavo Cryo app isn't terrible? That's literally the worst of the element. And besides, as a AR57 player, my focus is killing my enemies quick, not sticking around long enough to do it. That's for new players to do🙄
I have no idea why her kit even exists. Only 1 word explains why she's just not good. Kokomi. Kokomi is superior as a healer overall and she can set down her jellyfish and boom she can provide hydro application+healing. Sigewinne has less hydro application and she's clunky to use in a team at least compared to kokomi. The only team that a hydro healer is even necessary on is nilou bloom teams since hydro healers are less effective on hyperbloom compared to kuki shinobu. Sigewinne just doesn't provide enough. Yes he provides full team healing but her hydro application isn't very good which makes her stuck in kokomi's shadow as an inferior hydro healer. DPS sigewinne is no where near as good as literally any hydro dps in the game so don't even try a dps build. She really should've just been a 4 star healer and not a 5 star character if this was the best hoyo could do with sigewinne.
Tried building with full hp song of days artifact set and using sacrificial bow to maximize the artifact buff and have continuous healing as I reached about 50K Hp. Best team I tried with her is with Furina, Nahida, and Raiden as she buffs all their off field E skills, get the highest funfare buff from furina due to her continues party heals, and with the artifact SODP you will get more atack buff. Nahida also help you with AOE and Raiden for boss or large single damage burst. For now she is better than the other healers I have and provide tons of buff even at C0. Depends on perspective of players.
I say that sigewinne has a lot of flaws but the reason I pulled for her was because of her healing and her pairing with Furina. But being able to heal all 3 pary members of your party while Furina has her burst active just makes it so great and it felt better then using kokomis burst (No offense to kokomi).
i pulled for her cus she's cute and i love the melusine ,, she does in fact suck and i will never seriously use her because i have kokomi but i like her design and animations ❤❤
I still have No Idea why they Even release sigewinne when Furina is Obviously a Better choice..Even her Burst Animation Seems Longer than her Actual Burst..
ok but to be honest her demo trailer thing was terrible she was just writing for the whole time i was gonna get her for my mono hydro team until i learned she doesn’t trigger yelan… i don’t even hate her but she should’ve been a 4* man. insane
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Bruh why are people so pressed about cry element. Ayaka still has higher scaling than navia (if I'm not tripping). Even outside of freeze you can use bennet and other supports to focus on her damage instead of freeze.
Same with rosario, her scaling isn't bad and she snapshots (even if her stupid burst doesn't move). So she can at least be used in melt teams with bennet and xiangling.
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lets see if this turns into fischl glazing
update: he didn't even mention her im shocked.
THIS ISNT MY ONLY PERSONALITY TRAIT
Not glazing when the character deserve it😍
Thank you for this. I dont need to waste my precious 8 minutes and 50 seconds
@@Wreckedandruinedand ?!?!?!?
@@FliponYT im sorry flip
"As useful as yoimiya's charge attack"
No. Yoimiya scalea with attack at least. If they made Yoimiya's extra arrows scale with HP, then you'd be 100% correct
And yoi's charge atk tracks enemies.
You're telling me that a Fontaine character *really* gains a tremendous amount of value from pulling their first two Constellations and their signature weapon?!?
In all seriousness though, I'm kind of sick of all of the whale-baiting that this region has brought us and I hope Natlan changes for the better (it won't).
And from pulling Furina. Another Furina banner where she's paired with aoe healer lol.
Ngl every region has a shit character
Mondstat : klee
Liyue : qiqi
Inazuma : Ayato
Sumeru : Dehya
Fontaine: Sigewinne
Nathalan : loading ...
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@@DPS_Dehya i kinda have to disagree with Ayato there but with no proof to back my statement up
@@DPS_Dehya *Monstatd: Eula
Sumeru 5* were trash imo, Fontaine’s were much stronger but it sucks they need cons and weapons to be ultra cracked. Clorinde, Sige, and Emilie definitely fell off probably because they just aren’t as anticipated or given screen time like other units. Besides we’re going to Natlan so later unite like this just don’t really matter like that.
Neuvilette charged attack battery Sigewinne, reporting in! 🔫
You guys scare me
Hydro MC: Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!
sigewinne's power budget went into her trailer and animations. she's very good at what she does (blowing bubbles). it took me 155 pulls to get her.
What are u playing her on
@@FliponYT blowing bubbles. she's like a better neuvillette at blowing bubbles.
155 pulls. it took me +/- half of that to get my furina to c1. i take it you lost you 50/50.
@@FliponYTon one hand
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They should've make her have a unique mechanics where when you attack the enemy who's trapped inside the bubble, the enemy took more elemental damage (like a debuff) 😢
That would have actually been super cool
I was kinda expecting her to be a support that gives bol to the whole team, then maybe gets a bonus damage once the bol is cleared
Mona...
Sooo, like Mona, but with worse AoE, damage, and longer CDs.
@@alpha4935But think, it's Mona with Healing and longer debuff duration, so she has synergy with Furina, making her way more useful
"Waifu > Meta" people on their way to comment "Idc, she's cool/cute/hot" on a meta analysis video:
It’s true facts tho.
Some of us never do abyss
@@TheRoleplayer40kwhy watch meta analysis then?
That's like complaining at kfc for vegan food
@@nikumilotic1333as an enjoyability player I watch meta vids so I can know what's up and make the characters I do like good
@@HazZzel- that's a good and perfect approach i just wanted to talk about people who complain about meta in meta vids
@@nikumilotic1333 I think it's because meta vids aren't always accurate. Like we've obviously all seen the bad tier lists. You've got a point but ppl also just get really defensive when someone shit talks their favourite
Blasphemy, she buffs Fischl so she must be insane
@@tracer4b True
I can't wait what they'll say about Natlan healers 😅
Shenhe do buff elemental skills damage tapping her skill
Rosaria Is pretty underrated imo but it’s just circle impact and if the enemy moves at all she does nothing
Her Cyro application is good, but Freeze teams are in a weird spot.
Nah, you're coping. Rosaria is mid/low tier
@@TheLovedUnbound She's more Melt oriented than freeze, and she's still BIS for reverse Melt, but with her Burst being circle impact like it is, it makes her really awkward, especially for the current Abyss cycle...
@alatus_knight mid at worst, she's definitely better than the low tier characters, she's still apart of good 4 star comps most notably gaming melt and reverse melt. Depending on what your criteria is for low tier maybe but I really don't think so personally would say she's closer to being good than being bad
@@TheLovedUnboundpeople 36etar clear abyss with her Melt teams
Sigewinne is the playable embodiment of that bubble gun they give us many months ago.
About that weird ecstatic men in her demo, you can thank those weird Japanese ads for the inspiration.
If only her burst lasted 3 seconds longer and gave her 2 stacks of convalescence per hit her kit would actually make sense. will it be good? That is debatable but shed actually have a comprehensive kit and a team archetype unique to her
I actually really like this idea
Sigewinne's constellation 4 makes her burst last 3 seconds longer...
Sigewinne is only good for Furina, but until you have C6 Furina, it's basically always better to pull a Furina con than Sigewinne, since Furina has amazing cons and it means that you can use a slot for someone better than Sigewinne. And then at C6, where there's finally no more cons to get for Furina...she no longer needs healers so there's even less reason to pull for Sigewinne.
Unless you like Sig and want to use her Aka the best reason to pull anyone
@@TheRoleplayer40k Sure, and she's a lot of fun to play, especially at higher cons. You probably won't regret pulling for the adorable thing, but if we're discussing pull value, how good she is and what teams she's good on is quite relevant.
If I didn't have Kokomi and her doughnut, I'd probably get her, cause I really like her, I just don't need a second Kokomi when I already love my mermaid.
me when i did exactly that, i got furinas c6 then got sigewinne one a single pull
How does an ability that uses a syringe not heal, buff, or debuff at all?? Like those are all the things that a syringe would do
I'm honestly sure that Sigewinne is a Kuki/Thoma situation. In fact, a bond of life off-field skill using character sounds like exactly what we would get to compliment her kit. Idk personally. I can't call her bad. I'd rather just say her potential is being gatekept by time. But it's not like Hoyo could wait until those characters are brought into the game before releasing Sigewinne. Do you think she should've just had a different kit altogether to make more sense in the current state of the game?
I think it’s fine to release characters with Future units in mind but if it is also fair to say to skip them until those future characters come out just due to there being no guarantee on how good they’ll be
That's the problem for me. You mention 4 star chars. Being 5 star is the reason why I never pull Shenhe despite how good she is. Skipping her allow me to get other necessary 5 stars and constelation.
She wont get better with time, she already synergize with Furina kit well, it's almost impossible to synergize better with another character.
@@agadexis maybe there will be a character good in a team where she's the best choice of a healer for furina because right now most teams prefer other healers
I wish hoyo would give characters direct buffs like they did with ziongli so they could bring underpreforming characters to the current meta. Im sure it would incentivize people to want to pull for those characters
Yeah the worst is when a new character comes out and they just... aren't very good (Dehya, Chiori, Sigewinne, Kaveh). Would be nice if Hoyo actually directly buffed weaker characters, especially the 5 stars.
@@JosepiThe13th Chiori is fine just rarely the best option except for mono geo.
It's illegal tho?? They can technically get sued for releasing a character right, then someone spends money to get that specific character with thay specific kit then hoyoverse changes it meaning you just spent money on something you didn't want.
Think of it like paying for a burger, even though your favorite food is pizza, then the restaurant gives you a pizza instead because you like that more. You can sue them.
In nikke they managed to fix old characters via new optional slot item which is changing skills and stats.
Basically nothing changed in default character state but you can optionally improve it. It is your choice do it or not 😂
@@putent9623
the issue with buffing released characters is nerfing and reworks
if you buff a character who on release is objectively bad (say kokomi who was pretty bad until dendro released)
then she may be way too overpowered as new artifact sets or characters that benefit from her kit are added
or if they overtune the character and are forced to nerf or rework, then people who paid for the character will get scammed basically
its like what putent9623 said but instead of them giving you a pizza, you order a double patty burger, they give you a 3 patty burger
and then they take all 3 patties and just leave the cheese because 3 patties was just too much
Guys we finally got qiqi 2.0💀
But u cant lose it for her xd
Hoyo: Let's make a new healing button but, it's on the skill instead!
*Applaud*
But they made a better one in baizhu
I think she could’ve just been a four star but they just wanted to put as may cute animations in her attacks as possible
Genshin taking so long to die they made the same unit twice welcome back qiqi 🗿
Honestly I wish they made her give everyone BOL it’s kinda of annoying have to pick up the droplets otherwise , or make her buff by the amount of entities on field so her buff for furina will be somewhat useful ( yae if you like) , but most likely murata will have the BOL stuff
Makes me wonder how clorinde and arlechino weapon wil age if murata shares or does smn with BoL with her teammates.
@@putent9623 yeah I doubt they would lock BOL behind some characters it seems like a way to lock furina compatibility
She has a unique and cute design thats it her E is lackluster her burst is nice but lacks the dmg and neuvillete wont need her since his burst and e gives him 9 bubbels to pick up combined with a shielder like zhongli or one of the 4* he never has to worry about getting hit so nah hard pass.
also trying sigewinne in the test trail was the longest one so far to complete and that says a lot
Why is Mihoyo so against making hydro 4 stars? Last one was Candace in 3.1 D:
Also!! Keep up the good work!!! Happy Pride Month Flip!!! 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈 We are so proud of you!!!
We've been getting new 4*
You could argue Hydro Traveler counts in terms of accessibility, but I don't think anyone has found a use case for them yet.
I mean she has synergy with and enables Furina, that automatically makes her useable, it's just that we already have other characters that can do that and probably better at that. So I don't think she's terrible but unless you don't have any of the alternatives already, the actual pull value feels very low.
Though she is the first hydro off field full party healer so if you happen to require that specific utility for a Furina team then she would be the go-to option, but it's hard to think of too many teams that would demand that right now.
time to use lootbar to whale for sigewinne !!
Huffing biggest copium that she will work in the future, for now I'm going by just her cuteness alone. I do wish they stopped releasing char cons that... just should be in their main kit. It's like they raise cost of a complete character from 180 to 360 pulls
Some people just never learn. "Kokomi is the worst 5-star", doesn't ring a bell?
sigewinne is straight up ass do NOT compare her to Kokomis situation
Dehya, that's all I gotta say. 5 stars can be trash.
@@EugeneDorkdinkletonBonquavo they can, but there is pretty big stretch between "regular trash" and "the worst 5*"
I hadn`t seen her demo yet, Flip YOU did this to me!
WTF was that brainrot HOYOVERSE ???
You can't hide that stupid background footage of Heizou Plunge vs an enemy with anemo res. 💀 SMH my head. ig if it works, it works
Still cleared 🔥
Ngl she is only really useful at C2 with elegy.
But i feel like if you like sigewine you can definitely turn her into a sub dps with furina, kazuha etc cause her Q is like a single neuv CA or less so idk.
as of now, according to paimon.moe, the current ratio of pulls for this banner cycle is 4.2k sigewinnes to 14.1k furinas.
there are 235% more furinas than sigewinnes wished for; and it hasn't even been a week, so who knows how much that'll change. it'll be funny if somehow furina can surpass her first banner, where she was wished for 1409% more than her rerun counterpart, baizhu.
Seems like flop releases are getting more and more common these days. Honestly not surprising with how they just keep on releasing sidegrades to existing characters. Although I doubt Sigewinne will beat Baizhu's and Lyney's records, or anti-records for that matter, those two did so horrible that it's borderline impossible to beat them, especially the latter.
I got Furina bro she's so fucking insane 🗿 and cute too. I recommend her to everyone, literally
I know physical comps are nowhere near meta, but I think she could be a solid pick for Eula teams. Sigewinne's got a group heal on skill that requires practically no field time which no other character has. You can slap an Ocean Hued Clam set on her which she can easily max the damage out at C0. OHC damage also increases with phys-shred and OHC damage ignores 100% enemy defense with decent AoE which makes it pretty future proof.
I'm thinking something like Eula, Sigewinne, Furina, and Fischl/Raiden could at least push the limits of phys team comps. Eula energy problems might be a concern, despite Sigewinne producing 4 energy particles on skill and I doubt it would put physical on top of the meta, but I do think it's still noteworthy.
I use her on a team with Nahida, Furina, and Yae Miko. Three units that all do off field skill damage and eat up her buffs immediately. She's pretty great!
im really enjoying her playstyle. Her healing is amazing; she's really strong with Furina, Raiden, and a Dendro support.
45 seconds sigewinne speedrun on billbilli
This is the result of Hoyo deciding it would be a good idea to pump out 17 units per year and honestly thinking this was a good idea.
No one except whales and fans of this character pulled her because yet again such a niche unit and such a cost intensive way to build her as she needs her higher constellations when multiple other units outperform her by a lot at c0. If they would just rerun other units more diligently instead of pumping out sh*t a$$ units. Older units meanwhile don't get to see the light of day anymore Zhong li hasn't been seen in 14 months is absolutely ridiculous.
Still shocked Hoyo didn't just design her to be a BOL support/enabler instead of a Kokomi sidegrade.
Imagine allat yapping in those guides, only for the only viable solution being pulling for Furina instead
Our little flip felt violated from the trailer 😭. We gotta protect flip in the future😂
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5 star named Qiqi and Dehya:
Qiqi is actually solid now
@@FliponYT Is it because of the Clorinde team she has? Because even so I respectfully disagree. Only thing Qiqi has going for her over Sigewinne is that you don't actually have to put in the wishes to get her lol.
Also, Sigewinne buffs the better character (And more than one character if we're counting other off field skill based characters) js js
@@hedgehugsAnd she gives 4 Hydro particles. Which is better than anything Qiqi gives tbh.
@@FliponYTSolid?! The copium is real 😂
Both are better.
They are both free and Dehya is actually better
She's actually not that terrible, but just a dedicated Furina support & buffer. Everything in Sigewinnes Kit AND constellations is about supporting Furina to do more dmg. At least Sigewinnes has a role, meanwhile Dehya still hass no relevant purpose
All they needed to do was to make it so her skill gives BoL to the whole team per bounce so people who have Sigewinne would want to farm the Harmonic Whimsy set because she makes it viable on any character. Really simple: Bubble does 8 bounces, each adding 15% BoL, after the bubble pops the whole team gets healed over time, that way she could be a perfect support for any Fontaine character, Heals HP constantly to counter the constant HP drain, full team off field heals for Furina and BoL that won't be cleared by Clorinde or Arlecchino
I can tell it felt like other TCs and Guidemakers were scrapping the bottom of the barrel when it seemed the best praise they could give her was "well her mono hydro Furina team is better than Kokomi's." Releasing a limited 5 star who is completely codependent on another limited 5 star to be viable and even in those team comps they're not exactly stellar doesn't give them a strong case.
I also agree the whole "she'll get better in Natlan" is cope. People claimed the same thing about Dehya's kit and she technically works as a flexslot option for Lyney/Neuvillette/Wriothesley but that didn't suddenly fix her problems.
Everyone should keep in mind many other TCs are literal paid shills in the Hoyocreator program, so they will never criticize disappointments from Hoyoverse, no matter how obvious they are
Oh yeah i almost forgot, for anyone reading her elemental skill buff is a 10-20% increase for furina assuming only furina is in the party (so that the stacks dong get depleted too quickly).
Flip risks ending up on Neuvillette’s black list for criticising his precious daughter 😁
She seems like a cake topper. Looks cute and gives some whimsical flair to the presentation. But you could easily take it off or put something else on it and the cake would still taste exactly the same.
Isn't the archive tab in genshin blue huh coincidence I think not hmmmg
For C0 Sigewinne to me it seems like they just last minute decided to make a 4 star a 5 star character than changed the cons to be whale bait, I got one of her cause adorable design but truly sad, I wish she was at least as good as Jeanne maybe in the future people will find a way to make cracked although I'm probably just sniffing copium.
3:46 Bro switched to my mic quality 💀
THERES ALWAYS SOMETHING
Hydro traveler
This is really bad because if people already have issues with the game and frustrations, these badly designed characters WILL make them quit the game. This is such a disappointing update after numerous mediocre updates.
FINALY!!! someone not wearing pink glasses and not saying she great.
want a healer? there are many better choice. kokomi, barbara, noelle (which can also shield), baizhu (he got his last banner very recently, so if one really did need a healer, why did said player didn't take him). hell, even furina can be a far better healer then sigewinne.
you want a hydro archer? isn't yelan making her worthless?
you want to apply hydro? again, so many better options.
from my point of view, i would say she's the worst character created so far, but since she's new, i'll be generous and saying she's equal to dehya and aloy, but frankly, i'm pretty sure both of them can be better then sigewinne. yet another exemple that just because a character is 5 star doesn't mean she's better then a 4 star. my expectations were already low for her, but... ishhh. sigewinne banner = hardpass.
I think she's a QOL unit for Furina, that's about it.
im lowkey convinced sigewinne’s bubble cant trap bigger enemies is bc hoyo didnt wanna do the animations for it
2:28 same reaction i was shocked wtf m i watching💀💀
Does mean Kuki hyperbloom is strongest with EM build in list against Tank fast paced circle enemies in limited events?
Wait i want ask, since Sigewinne does have a lot of hydro applycations, is she good in a burning team? (If burning becomes the new meta in Natlan)
Damn. Sigewinne is one of my favorite character designs. I didn’t realize her C2 was that strong. They should totally add her to the standard banner, then I can eventually get her without wasting too much lol. I wish she was good bc I would have totally pulled for her.
Thank you for mentioning her trailer. One of the trailers of all time.
I've always thought shenhe was extremely overrated and rather disappointing because she was limited to buffing 5 hits per character
But now i am shown sigewinne who buffs 10 hits teamwide
Makes me wonder what their aim is with these hit counter buff type characters
the fact that I've barely seen any guides on her (not to mention guides usually have a very positive statement in the thumbnail, which I've seen none of) is telling
Sigewinne could have fixed by one simple change. Just turn her into a 4 star, she resembles one anyways. Almost like she was originally designed to be one.
Me knowing that she's bad but still getting her on early pity anyway (she's too adorable bro 💀)
Why couldn’t she be a 4 star bro
Her kit is confusing and underwhelming like one so I don’t understand the reason for making her a 5 star unless it’s for future impact
Tried to get her and lost to Keqing c3. I just collect units and have every 5star except for Dehya, but not gonna waste my pulls anymore. I have guarantee and if next banners will have something good - I will roll there and maybe grab Sigiwini on her rerun.
Good luck for future characters bro
@@FliponYT thx and gl to you too)
I feel that if they wanted her bad they would have put her on the standard, although I don’t know how she will work on a team mostly likely in Natlan is when she will get a good team but she is made to be on field in her burst and her application is bad on her skill. She has bol and it seems that might be a big thing in Natlan and maybe the pyro archon gives bol and then Sigewinne can heal really well.
As someone who has stopped topping up since 3.5(Dehya's fiasco), I do not regret spending 30k primos to get her to C1. Imo, only her burst is out of place and badly designed. Other kits of her works as intended. The best team for her as I have tried so far are Furina, Yae, Nahida or Clorinde, Furina, Kazuha. HB with Kuki or Raiden is fine as it should be. For those who have played the game long enough and have an adequate roster, she is a collectible otherwise go for Furina's cons. Btw, her C1 makes her buff to E skills up to 18 times. Her hydro application at C1 is still worse than Kokomi's but enough for me to play Ayaka's Freeze team, may be it's because of Kazuha's swirl idk but it is playable.
Just wanted to mention that Chlorinde Clip at 5:40 looks so cool!
"Noelle can be a solid dps but nothing noteworthy". This guy is a joke. Wtf😂 furina made noelle realize her full potential. What is so noteworthy about that ?
it’s official he didn’t mention fischl ! Yae is better 😻😻😻
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With healing she is way better than kokomi and she buffs your sub dps up to over 50%. I don't really see how she is somehow a bad character. Literally Shenhe's buff but better
I remember someone putting Sigewinne higher then whst she deserved on a tier list qnd someone told me shea literally the best character for mono hydro Ayato. 1. Ayato is mid 2. You are only limiting your options for teammates by playing mono hydro and it's not like Ayato benefits from mono hydro anyways.
I think they are going with a quick swap type of character with her. Granted they failed miserably
4.7 is surely a patch of all time.
Clorinde and Alhaitham, an okay dps vs one of the best dps in the game. Furina and Siegewinne, arguably a top 3 unit in the whole game vs the worst limited 5*.
Lost 50/50 to keqing.
I’m ngl I don’t rly want her that much, but seeing keqing left me no choice 😡.
Edit: I’m bored ok
The only reason sigewinne is a must pull is because of 1 simple word, revenge
She’s too cute to skip
Weirdo
**skips**
@@destructo3457 How? She’s adorable? Her little bubbles are just so cute and her whole aesthetic
@@destructo3457 You're the weirdo here if you think lil pink bubble-themed character being seen as cute is weird
i pulled for her pink namecard
my favorite thing about sigewinne is that she makes dehya look good
Damn seeing her kit in beta had be saving acquaint fates, but I'm glad they didn't buff her significantly a char this bad is funny
Finally i was waiting for this videos😂
I don't have Furina and I wished for Sigewinne and I got her. I don't regret it lol. Just play the character you like. I've already seen 8 other "Why Sigewinne is bad" videos so this is nothing new xD. It's just hilarious because everyone who is a meta slave was complaining about Kokomi and Baizhu when they were newly released about similar reasons UNTIL the new area came out and suddenly there was synergy.
she feels like weapon pull/con pull bait. i think hoyo has finally realized c6 is just too much and most people, whales or otherwise, won't c6. so now theyre trying to encourage c2/weapon spending
But she still sucks then
you know its bad when your hydro app is worse than mona's
I bet she's gonna get the Kokomi treatment
I spend 161 wishes for Furina C1 and a Sigewinne... I got C2 Keqing, a Sigewinne and C14 Noelle Most frustrating pulls in my life definitely would do it again
Based Gambling mentality 🗣️🗣️
I don't think Sigewinne is THAT terrible. She gives +15% skill damage to off field elemental skill users, and heals a lot. Also, she has the potential to become pretty good with Natlan characters (chars at the end of old region are always good for the new region)
10 stacks for the whole team is very low
@@nikumilotic1333 it's the same as Shenhe...
@@impostorsyndrome1350 Shenhe gives 8x character
She gives 10 shared for the whole team.
I don't Need to explain which is better.
@@utaita8214 cope.
@@impostorsyndrome1350shenhe gives per character
Not for the whole team
Yunjin gives the shared ones but her total are 30
ngl i might just pull her for the namecard
Based tbh it’s fire
flip you are a very intelligent person
Personally, I really like her probably like one of my top 10, but that’s just because I like using her
I really hope it'll be a Kuki case otherwise wtf did they cook
But even then, pneumousia will be useless (if it's not already useless lmao) and the negative hydro app will impact her upon future characters that could've synergised with her if she had an actual hydro app
Uhh Sonic Unleashed ost ily
Love you too
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Sigewinne's trailer is the only good thing about her
Her namecard:
A certain zombie:
Atleast she become much more usable after Furina
Healing is way better than sigewinne's and cryo app isn't terrible. Would honestly be a solid character if she could generate particles.
@@EugeneDorkdinkletonBonquavo Cryo app isn't terrible? That's literally the worst of the element. And besides, as a AR57 player, my focus is killing my enemies quick, not sticking around long enough to do it. That's for new players to do🙄
I have no idea why her kit even exists. Only 1 word explains why she's just not good. Kokomi. Kokomi is superior as a healer overall and she can set down her jellyfish and boom she can provide hydro application+healing. Sigewinne has less hydro application and she's clunky to use in a team at least compared to kokomi. The only team that a hydro healer is even necessary on is nilou bloom teams since hydro healers are less effective on hyperbloom compared to kuki shinobu. Sigewinne just doesn't provide enough. Yes he provides full team healing but her hydro application isn't very good which makes her stuck in kokomi's shadow as an inferior hydro healer. DPS sigewinne is no where near as good as literally any hydro dps in the game so don't even try a dps build.
She really should've just been a 4 star healer and not a 5 star character if this was the best hoyo could do with sigewinne.
Kid started crying again 😂
Tried building with full hp song of days artifact set and using sacrificial bow to maximize the artifact buff and have continuous healing as I reached about 50K Hp. Best team I tried with her is with Furina, Nahida, and Raiden as she buffs all their off field E skills, get the highest funfare buff from furina due to her continues party heals, and with the artifact SODP you will get more atack buff. Nahida also help you with AOE and Raiden for boss or large single damage burst. For now she is better than the other healers I have and provide tons of buff even at C0. Depends on perspective of players.
I say that sigewinne has a lot of flaws but the reason I pulled for her was because of her healing and her pairing with Furina. But being able to heal all 3 pary members of your party while Furina has her burst active just makes it so great and it felt better then using kokomis burst (No offense to kokomi).
i pulled for her cus she's cute and i love the melusine ,, she does in fact suck and i will never seriously use her because i have kokomi but i like her design and animations ❤❤
I still have No Idea why they Even release sigewinne when Furina is Obviously a Better choice..Even her Burst Animation Seems Longer than her Actual Burst..
Burst animation:2 sec
Burst duration : 2.5 sec (C4 give extra 3 sec)
@@krumi_hazuki1440 Thanks for the information ..damn c4??as far as I've seen her hydro application is terrible..should have been a 4 star
ok but to be honest her demo trailer thing was terrible she was just writing for the whole time
i was gonna get her for my mono hydro team until i learned she doesn’t trigger yelan… i don’t even hate her but she should’ve been a 4* man. insane
It's ok, not every character needs to be meta
2:27 LMAOO real and true 💀