How to tell when Singers are OFF KEY (Live Vocal Fails)
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- With Amazing Singers: Beyoncé, Ariana Grande and Normani Kordei (Fifth Harmony)
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I'm always shook at how musicians know what notes people are singing. I'm truly tone-deaf 😂
same here
Sameee
i'm not even a musician and ik what notes celebs sing on their runs and everything
Practice the song in it's key
Life hack: first figure out the range level (on piano scales). Then, play repeat along the vocals
Everyone should see this. Im so tired of people getting mad when I say a certain singer is off key
Lets Mash It Up! yas dahling! my thoughts exactly
Lets Mash It Up! cough beyonce cough
Jalen W no I often see coments like 'OMGGGG SHES PERFECT VOCALIST OF OUR GENERATION OMGGGGG SHE HIT THAT HIGH NOTE YASSSS BITCHHHHH OMGGF!!!! While the whole thing was flat. Theres no use in praising something that wasnt good.
Jalen W when was I talking about beyonce?
classic projection and curve fuck off mate.
So selena gomez is off key in all her live performances
Jalsartistry basically
unless she's lipping lol
Jalsartistry
was it really necessary to keep the hating?
AaronNoseQue not hate honey just tea ☕️
AaronNoseQue it's not hating if it's the truth
Beyoncé wasn't off key. The key was off Beyoncé!
michael shead ba dum tssss
michael shead lol
😂😂😂
She's no Chuck Norris. I'm sorry. :(
man ur so funny..just can't ...lol
Just to expand on intentional off-key notes--they're called accidentals. It's essentially a note that is deliberately sharp or flat, even though it's out of the key of the song that is being played. They're actually written into the music that way a lot of times, so they're aren't really accidentally done like the name implies.
Exactly! Beyonce is intentionally singing double harmonic minor scales which includes accidentals. She wasn't off key because she missed the note.
razrv3lc Intentionally off key? No. It's true that accidentals are not in the key of the performed song, but that is not what singing off key is. singing off key is when you sing an incorrect note and your ears don't lead you back to the correct notes and you are now in a new key. That has absolutely nothing to do with accidentals.
Melani Marston "its true that accidentals are not in the key of the song" so that means they're intentionally off key lmao
You literally just repeated exactly what I said but with different wording.
razrv3lc The word off-key implies incorrectness. A person who understands how music works would get it, but what I'm saying is, you should refrain from using "off-key" so you don't confuse anyone else.
Melani Marston lmao don't pull the "person who understands music would get it" card because I was in a symphonic band for close to ten years. I know exactly what I'm saying. If a note is off-key, intentional or not, then describing it as off-key is accurate. It doesn't matter if you THINK it implies something. It only implies a note is off-key. If YOU think it implies something bad, that's your issue. Nobody has had an issue with my correct description of accidentals but you, so clearly it wasn't confusing.
you are pretty educated with your shit. kudos to you. not many people can make videos pointing out the flaws Beyonce makes vocally.
Well, like for the case of Beyonce, she's singing on a double harmonic minor scale which has intentional sharp and flat notes in order to give the music a certain feel. So she wasn't missing notes, they were on a certain scale that calls for intentional off key notes.
Lissandra Freljord take a jazz course and you'll understand.
Jordan Cannon I am honestly surprised music can be so complex for some people that claims theirselves as musically educated that they don't seem to recognize her attempts at giving songs certain sexy-jazzy-sensual-nuances and, instead, they judge her wrong as being off key. This is some real vocal misinformation being sold as technical knowledge here in this video. Anyway, I am not even supposed to judge her as a vocalist, because, you know... she's Beyoncé.
Lissandra Freljord I don't think that was is intention because if he really is honest he would simply say Beyoncé slay irregardless of what he his trying to emply... Bye Felicia
Lissandra Freljord join band
Beyoncé sounds incredible consistently though lol
Both sounded great I only heard a shift in keys is all
Thank you for this video. I get so annoyed by people who don't understand what "off key" actually means.
Well, like for the case of Beyonce, she's singing on a double harmonic minor scale which has intentional sharp and flat notes in order to give the music a certain feel. So she wasn't missing notes, they were on a certain scale that calls for intentional off key notes.
yeah, right...
For the record Beyonce was singing on the double harmonic minor scale. Some scales have intentional notes outside of the key that sound great because they create their own temporary scale.
Jordan Cannon For the record Beyoncé is the shit/ greates vocalist of our generation. lol
Jordan Cannon dang, thank you for that info. I refused to believe Ms B would be "off" when it comes to her iisssshh 😄
Jordan Cannon and she's a perfectionist she'd rather not sing a verse she knows she'd go off or flat. I feel like she does everything on purpose, and if she knows she'd fail she is not going to do it in the first place. Well you can't blame a Virgo. lol
+Aizen Knaik Jeez I can't imagine how much pressure she must be under when her fans think she's literally not human
That's not even an opinion. She ACTUALLY said it herself in one of her interviews, and one of the footage of her 'I am...' concert where she sang 'Sweet love' by Anita Baker and her voice was not in condition so she DODGE the highest part of the song rather than took risk justifies her being 'perfectionist'. She didn't sing that part because she was afraid to crack (with a voice that was already hoarse at the time). No, I am not talking about the 'Sweet dreams' medley in Vegas. I am talking about the other version taken from the camera phone of the audience in her actual 'I am' world tour back then.
So Selena Gomez is a living off key performer
Clorox Meme Taylor Swift is offended
Clorox Meme 😭😂👏🏽👏🏽
Beyonce always slayed
Komang TayaVevo those spirit dinners with the Clinton's did wonders for her....
Komang TayaVevo Can you please tell me what beyonce song is playing at 2:00 minute mark pls?
huda abdi me myslef and i but the live version
not really. I remember in 2006 with two girls in that group . their performances are terrible
She sounds good because her off key notes are still sang with good technique.
Holy shit the break free improvisation😍 it sounded so good
Teawa Ross it's not an impro (its in the actual song)
Teawa Ross it did omg 😍❤️
Yess Normani is becoming a better vocalist
seyven dreon amen
LMFAO y’all thought
One one hand, this is super informative.
On the other hand, Beyonce is perfection.
How to find the key to the song?
Marek Weryk it's a natural thing you hear if you're a singer, you can just tell which notes will fit where, but you can just google the key of the song and look at the notes if you really wanted to know?
Marek Weryk or check the last note of the song and then when the song sounds sad it is minor and when the song sounds happy it is major
Which notes the song has
I sing off key way too often, but I do play the piano and guitar, any tips or tricks?
EmbraceWithin listen and do more scales
Work on intervals and change the key of the song to whatever your voice works best with. Don't try to play and sing like the recording if it doesn't suit your voice.
EmbraceWithin Do vocal warm up exercise in youtube, definitely will make you better.
EmbraceWithin try tuning your instrument with your voice... like I sing a note and check the piano to make sure my instrument is in tune
Practice and copy people who are better than you. Play a Bb and a B on the piano. That's called dissonance and that's what happens essentially when you sing off key. You'll be able to hear it after awhile.
because I sing too... i have to say that sometimes if you are not focused for even a second and you lose one note. Then it's SO easy to lose many more!! Like you can't imagine how stressful singing on stage is!!
Beyoncé wasn't off key. She was intentionally attacking the flat note below the one she wanna hits (objective note), like in a provocative/sensual way and she has always been doing that, specially in those blues/soul-based songs, bending the note until reaching the semi-tone above the flat note. It is not being off key and I am surprised you see yourself as musically educated and doesn't seem to know it as just another vocal technique. That's totally different from not being able to reach the note because it's "too high" and hitting the flat note below that; and that's a vocal flaw, which clearly ain't the case here.
I'm really surprised lol
Those definitions containing the keys for each scale are so primary... if you're talking about Major Diatonic scale of certain key then, voila, you're right. But so many songs (especially the ones you took her for granted like "Me, Myself and I") are played using non-convencional pop-chords progressions; they have a jazzy feel to them, which LIMITS the use of a single major scale for the whole song; in fact, this song transits between keys and harmonic progressions that it's a crime to state that certain keys are allowed and other aren't; it's even harder to adress a single key to "Me, my and I".
Jeez, get your shit together.
Is it me or Ariana just shouting/mumbling though the song without saying anything
no she is singing but she does have a tendency to not annunciate her words :/
Erica Durazo also her tongue tension makes it seem like she's not saying words
just you
Clearly not just him, Johnnaa, considering how many 'likes' the comment has and the fact that Ariana has been receiving criticism on her poor enunciation since the conception of her singing career.
she had poor enunciation back then lmao u cant tell what she’s saying unless u know the lyrics
Quickest way to tell if a singer is off key, type in any Selena Gomez performance and wait for her to open her mouth lol
Beyoncé's off-key notes are intentional
Hahahahahahahahahahaha. I hope you're joking.
@@bhaskarville she right she does it all the time for crazy in love
Not always 🤷♀️ but i love her ❤️
@@gracedorsay5514 yes at every single performance of crazy in love she do it if you know beyonce well you have to know that she would never do it again and change it to another technique if it wasn't intentional
@@roger9283 the crazy in love one yes, the first one in the video above no
Omg guys the notes are RIGHT In front of you and you're still in denial
Well, like for the case of Beyonce, she's singing on a double harmonic minor scale which has intentional sharp and flat notes in order to give the music a certain feel.
How many times are you gonna repeat this shit and reply to everyone, Jordan?
oh man i was wondering the same thing..i've seen his comment a couple of times and it gets annoying as we scroll down and find it again and again..I love Beyoncé and i guess many people here do to but i find this video very interesting and useful...we all know she's a pretty good singer :-)
yall remember
1) there’s a difference between off key and flat/sharp
2) and some advanced singers like lalah hathaway who go “off key” intentionally (and beyoncé in this video towards the end). tbh it’s not that rare if you’re in jazz music or gospel/soul
brilliant!!
well... Even when Beyonce is out of key sounds good😂😂
where is britney in this video?😂😂
Corey M how can she sing off key when she doesn't sing in the first place? 🤔
you mean you're she lipped them lol
@@GirlyGirlMsp Britney's actually a really strong singer (technical), far better than what people gave her credit for.
Why you reupload the video?
Manuster I noticed that 2
Honestly Bey was off key af but the bITCH STILL SLAYS
Me, Myself and I's on the key of D-flat major (D♭- E♭- F - G♭- A♭-B♭- C - D♭). Don't know where you got G# from, also your notation is extremely off in that specific case. You cannot have C and C#, in the same scale. Same goes for G/G#. You stated the song's key as C# in the clip around 1:49, which is technically right, since you're just going by the enharmonic scale, but still, you cannot have F/F#. The notation has to be correct.
Break Free is in the key of G minor (G-A-B♭-C-D-E♭-F-G). You got Crazy In Love and Work From Home right.
Lmao people who havent learned music always think its great but when im listening its like "oh deary me no its off key help me"
Sometimes notes go flat when one's voice isn't up for the particular note at a certain time: Beyonce and Ariana's notes it seems.
And some people are just always off pitch: Selena and Justin...
Because of the black time box, I thought this was a video about beyonce telling off some dude named Kev 😂
It actually can depend on chord changes whether a note is off-key or not, especially in minor keys. Otherwise accurate.
I feel like if you have a good musical ear you can tell, because I've never had any musical training but I could still notice most of these.
'Me, Myself, & I' is in D-flat major, 'Crazy in Love' is in D minor, and while every singer has pitchy moments (when they are unintentionally sharp or flat vs. the correct pitch and key of the song), the last example you cited was an intentional use of an 'accidental' note progression, as Bey changed the song's ending key for a different musical effect.
well,even normani is out off key i still love it when she do that...:D
I posted this a reply to another reply, but I would like to elaborate(?) on some specific music theory terminology.
The diatonic major scale (which is referred to as “on key” in the video) follows the same pattern of intervals regardless of what note you start on. And interval is the space between two notes, the smallest of which is a half step. For reference, the “Jaws” theme opens with an ascending half step. A whole step is two half steps. A scale pattern for a major key is: Root* Whole Whole Half Whole Whole Whole Half. *The Root is the starting note and how the keys are so named. If you look at a piano, the black piano keys help guide where Whole steps are. If there is a black key between two white keys, the distance between the two white keys, it’s a whole step. If not, it’s a half step.
Most musicians I know also refer to “off key” as “out of tune” primarily because is has more to due with tuning within the chord (three or more notes played simultaneously), than with the key of the song.
Also for those asking, someone singing “flat” means the note is slightly lower than the assumed intended pitch. Sharp is slightly higher.
Music theory can seem cumbersome. I recommend starting with the musical alphabet. Look at it on a piano and on a staff and then move on to intervals, chords, and finally major and minor keys.
That fuckin Db 6 from Ariana 💀💀💀
beyonce was not off key on the last runs, god dang it, those are runs that dont sound like everythign else out there, sit your ass down
as a singer it's easy for me to hear when someone is off key but i've never touched aninstrument and i have no idea what the actual keys of songs are
And i thought Math was the hardest and most complicated domain!! 😳😟👀
All this numbers & letters... Am i in a math class learning algebra again? Oh nooo...
Can you please tell me how can I find the first 5H video u used? The audience recording of Work From Home. Thanks
Ariana will always slay.
The only fallacy is @ 1:41 mark. Pitch & key are not interchangeable. So if a singer has a good pitch that does not necessarily mean they notice every off key note.
I love how you didn't flat out criticize them but you explained why 😝
actually if you listen to break free well... the part she changes the note is actually the hidden vocals in the song.....
Chebet Aoko but they're not the key she's singing
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Lara Vergara yes they are
I love Beyoncé's off keys tho! Those make her sound more emotional and gospel.. Idk very special vibe you can't get from other singers
can I know the name of the song that Beyonce sang. Now on?
3 DAYS BEFORE REBIRTH me myself & I
3 DAYS BEFORE REBIRTH
I see you everywhere. You're a very sweet and charming person.
hello i'm singer. i watched carefuly ur movie. i wanna know how to know which pitch is Good for a singer. i have no problem with off key but sometimes i get lost and dont really control my voice when i'm singing
I know absolutely nothing about the technical side of music... this video was like Arabic to me ahah
do you have a link to the work from home pca performance angle that you used?
I have pretty good pitch. In my baritone group (cause I'm a baritone in choir) someone said that they should follow me cause I'm always on pitch. I tried not to make much if it. it I was blushing a little...
You’re brave to put Beyoncé in this video
so you can stay in key even if you sing it an octave higher or lower right ???
yes; if it's exactly an octave up/down, it's still the same note
Like when Ally sometimes does her verse in Work from Home an octave higher but on the same key?
It's all about your range, you can change the songs key to fit your voice, it's a beginners mistake to try and sing a song in a key that not for you. You can transpose the key, the notes have the same intervals between them it might just be a 5th lower or whatever you find comfortable
Benjamin Arambula how wud 1 change the key of a song to fit my voice? (as a vocal noob and someone incredibly ignorant when it comes 2 music theory)
so key is the row of the notes in a song ?? like.. C5-E5-E5-D5 is the same key with D5-F5-F5-E5 ??
Why did you have to use Queen Bey as the thumbnail
You should make more videos like this.
I'm so happy to learn this THANK YOU SO MUCH
It's not really the best education. Well, like for the case of Beyonce, she's singing on a double harmonic minor scale which has intentional sharp and flat notes in order to give the music a certain feel. So she wasn't missing notes, they were on a certain scale that calls for intentional off key notes.
Jordan Cannon thanks for your comment How can ı learn best music education Do you knoe
You can take a music course at school or look up music lessons online
Well Beyoncécan be forgiven somehow cause she's dancing at the same time
Sure Normaniii slays it..
Yes experienced singers do know when they are off key, you can often tell you are not going to hit it a split second before. And it's typically due to not opening the mouth enough, and having improper breath support (either too much or too little air). Plus dancing and walking around do not help the situation, sometimes we expect a little too much from singers as going off key is a natural human phenomenon when you consider the specific environment.
1:48
g# scale:
g#, a#, b#, c#, d#, e#, and f##. Why talk about keys if you don't understand them?
edit: Also, when in c#, there is no f and c. They must be notated as E# and B#. All letters a through g must be present in a scale/key.
Melani Marston The only comment that made sense to me. lol I'm such a theory nerd and this video and it's enharmonically incorrect spelling of scales was getting under my skin.
How do you know what notes are on key? I get the song has a key but how do you know what notes are on key with that song?
doesitmatter The diatonic major scale (which is referred to as “on key” in the video) follows the same pattern of intervals regardless of what note you start on. And interval is the space between two notes, the smallest of which is a half step. For reference, the “Jaws” theme opens with an ascending half step. A whole step is two half steps. A scale pattern for a major key is: Root* Whole Whole Half Whole Whole Whole Half. *The Root is the starting note and how the keys are so names. If you look at a piano, the black piano keys help guide where Whole steps are. If there is a black key between two white keys, the distance between the two white keys, it’s a whole step. If not, it’s a half step.
Most musicians I know also refer to “off key” as “out of tune” primarily because is has more to due with tuning within the chord (three or more notes played simultaneously), than with the key of the song.
It all sounded good to me. Then again, I can't sing a note so there's that.
When its selena its off key already
#justkidding
Good job, but why did you use so many Beyonce clips? She's absolutely spectacular almost all the time, why did you cherry-pick for the bad stuff? This leaves a bad impression of a singer who understands and controls her voice so precisely.
That's how you took it.
But she's purposefully using accidentals to make the music more jazzy/provocative
David Fathom she used her as an example my God. It would've been confusing if he or she used different singers because everyone has a different voice. At least that's why i think he or she did it.
no one:
*people with perfect pitch: HoW tO TelL wHen SIngERs aRe oFf Key*
perfect pitch isn't common at all though.
The Beyonce clips are perfect examples of what makes (her) awesome music! She has NO flat notes 😆
why putting beyoncè with those beginners
this video is mediocre
It just shows that even with a very good technique you can make mistakes because you're a human being.
Well, like for the case of Beyonce, she's singing on a double harmonic minor scale which has intentional sharp and flat notes in order to give the music a certain feel. So she wasn't missing notes, they were on a certain scale that calls for intentional off key notes.
every singer goes off key once in awhile. it would be biased to not have her in here just because she's beyonce (I love her but I'm a singer so)
The issue with pop music is, I can't tell if they are on key or off when there aren't any instrumentals, especially when phone mics are bad and it's recorded live.
Im not tone deaf but I still don't know how to sing properly.
I didn't get a single thing about what being off key is. Perhaps if there are some good examples about being on key and then off key and then we are provided with the different sounds, then we might get what being off key is. Also providing examples of on stage performance doesn't help either because of all the echoing, which makes it difficult for us to know where and how the singers are off key.
Love this video! Yall need to understand that, even said by our Queen, our President Beyonce, that we cant all be perfect but it takes our own being to make ourselves. Its nice to know she can notice if she messes up.
Hearing Beyonce being 'off key' makes 'proper singing' even harder. I mean if she goes off key and normal ears like mine can't detect, I don't even want to attempt singing because I swear you can point out I'm off just by humming lol
Beyonce is not off key, the key is off from Beyonce.
But in all seriousness, this is a really good video! I like when a singer is off key and they make a face because they know it was, then there are other singers who just sing and hope for the best lol
I have a question, if you are changing the key due to the limited capabilities of your range and your vocal type, like for example, you're a baritone and the original key of a song is a Bb4 and you can only reach the note in A4 or G#, does that means you are off key or still on key?
flat and off-key is the same?
Not necessarily. Flat means you are singing below (lower than) the intended note. Off-key means you are singing a note that is not included in the key of the song. It's possible to sing flat but still be in key.
There's also "sharp" - when you are singing above (higher than) the intended note.
Thanks for giving a good answer. There are so many responses in these comments that are truly unintelligible.
you can change 4 notes up, or low, example C5 to Eb5 or F5 to A5, or A5 to F4, and C5 to A4, that´s not off key.
Ariana's talented but I just find her voice so annoying ..I can't listen to her for a long period of time
How do you choose a song that matches your voice? I mean how do you check the key of the song, and how do i know what my range is?
lol Beyonce changes the keys bc she does variations when singing live. she does not sing the same always.
still don't understand all this, most people singing voice sounds good to me, so long as they sound better than me
I'm a musician and I totally agree with that video this is amazing !
Whether a note is sung flat or sharp (like a note being 15 cents flat/sharp) is called being in tune, not "on key." Not every note in a song has to belong in the written key. Music would be so boring if we never ventured outside the 7 note scale. Singers can change pitches all they want. They just need to be in the center of whichever note they're singing, unless it's out of tune as a stylistic effect.
Abigail What? "Singers can change pitches all they want." Really? Sit at your piano or download a piano app, begin to randomly hit keys. Report back on how that sounds.
Can you change the title? it implies they sing in a key that is not in the chord progression...which is not true. they are ON KEY...well not that 5th harmony girl(SHE was flat). But they aren't singing the recorded key. BIG DIFFERENCE
So basically singers are trying to recreate GOOD, on key singing while singing live, miss the notes, and make up for it by sliding around, trying to substitute other notes that may sound okay within the given key...got it. They are STILL out of tune, but are trying to fix it in a musical way before anyone notices how awful they sound!
People don't start bashing singers, about like 85% or more use playback which is the studio recording playing in the background but the singer still sings, this helps a lot if you do intense choreography and sound very breathy at times. Don't be confused with lip syncing. Which is what Britney used to do and what Mariah Carey recently did
0:18 Are you sure C# is on key? I checked the notes with piano keys to understand the system and I noticed that there's always one key between those notes. But C# follows C without any note (key) between them and I don't really understand why it's the only *on-key* note that follows another directly. It's the same with the second one (Key F). Can anyone tell me why? ['cause that seems a bit random to me.XD]
I'm surprised there's no Taylor Swift examples
Ariana's off-key was better than the studio version
So when people are harmonizing together, does that mean that some of those people have to be off key??? I don't know anything about music, I'm just curious and this came up recommended to me.
I am terrible singer. Can't notice the difference that much when it happens, only when you put them together to compare. Just what you said: one sounds crazy good and clean and the other one is only good. Can people like me who cannot notice this improve or are we doomed to sing off pitch all our lifes?
lmao majority of the comments thought it's talking about flaws and failing to hit the right note.........
Improvisation is mostly intentional, it's just pointing out ones that sound good or bad.
I've never had trouble telling when singers are off key/pitch. Is that a problem people have? because it's annoying af always hearing when a singer sounds bad
easy for me. u would just now how the next note should be connected in one similar progressions cause I have a good ear haaha plus i am a singer as well. just maybe novice but not amateur ahhaa. u need to sing and resing until u would stick the notes with ur ear or sometimes when u want to do random notes, make sure it is in one possible progressions. it can be creative though.
Singing notes outside of a keys scale set is absolutely acceptable and frequently heard. Beyoncé at 2:35 sounds like a descending chromatic scale to me, and it sounds intentional.
so many times I try harmonizing but people tell me I'm off...but my ears say different things to me.....how do I know when I'm off
Beyoncé Usually Uses A Lot Of Minor Scale Notes When She Sings Live Or In The Studio....
She is flat period
Audiences may not care at all if the artist is off key..who cares...the most important is the performance and how the artist entertains the audiences...
i dont think that last one with beyonce was technically "off-key" because it sounded like she hit all of the same notes of the chord. it had a bit of a jazzy feel with it sounding like a suspended chord
I never 'touched' any instruments and didn't even know how to play music, yet I can easily recognized off key. Does that mean I have a good pitch?