Why Malaysia Keeps Flip-Flopping On This But Singapore Doesn't
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
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Why does Malaysia seem to be stuck in an endless loop of English education policy changes, while Singapore has maintained a steadfast approach? Witness firsthand how politics, national identity, and global competitiveness have shaped the educational landscapes of these two neighbouring nations, leading to a significant gap in English proficiency standards.
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Malaysia is nowhere near Singapore in educational standards. I am a Malaysian with Singapore grandchildren. I know.
Singapore builds the country and unity first, before pride for the nation. Malaysia did the reverse.
Likewise Malaysia has chosen to unify her people by the use of a common national language. Remember that the Malaysian population is ethnically more diverse than Singapore's population. Moreover about 15% of Malaysians reside in the Borneo states across the South China Sea. The majority of the indigenous people there speak native languages like Iban, Kadazan, Suluk etc. Whenever I converse with these people in English, they look bewildered as they cannot understand a word I am saying. The moment I switch to Malay, we are able to communicate.
@brandenburg2388 That is why the leaders realised the mistake they have committed. Anang Johari said Green.Technology in English and Ai Technology also in English. Why should Sarawak become Jaguh Champion ( Village Champion)????
Sarawak no matter what official language in English.
你因此應該含有意識新加坡是馬來西亞的基地。
Anda oleh itu harus tahu bahawa Singapura adalah penjuru (asas) Malaysia.
馬來西亞概念﹝the “Grand Design”﹞的關鍵是新加坡。
Tunjang utama (linchpin) konsep Malaysia (the “Grand Design”) ialah Singapura.
砂拉越和北婆羅洲﹝沙巴﹞的領袖因此決定放棄他們更好的判斷來支持這個想法。
Pemimpin Sarawak & Borneo Utara (Sabah) oleh itu membuat keputusan menentang pertimbangan mereka yang lebih baik untuk meneruskan idea itu.
stop copying Singapore policy la,you think you bolek. talk big only
@@brandenburg2388 Are you sure Malaysia has more diverse ethnics than Singapore?! Malaysia has a unifying language that only a few countries use. English is the lingua franca for most of the world, which is why LKY decided on it.
Malaysia talk big number one
LKY could have made Chinese the main language as 70% is Chinese but he smartly didnt do so, if you force other race to learn a language that isnt their own, they will have hate towards each other, as they feel they are forced to give up on their own language and culture.
LKY decided on English not just because its a worldwide language and used in business, because it's a Fair playing ground for all. As its not the language of the Chinese nor Malay nor Indians.. all 3 major races had to learn the new language from scratch..
But he retained language that your race is from as the 2nd language, so the Chinese never gave up Chinese, the malays didnt give up Bahasa Malay..etc.
Having a common language for all races is also useful for communication inter racial.
This is just one of the many many differences between Mr LKY and the Malaysian PMs, and this also explains why a small country with almost zero natural resources has grown to become a 1st World country and is still progressing whereas the other big country with abundance of natural resources is struggling non-stop and going backwards instead of progressing forward.
Fair points. Pragmatism was the reasoning behind PAP's language policy. However, it does have its drawbacks. For example, some minorities in Singapore find their chances of landing a job to be difficult since some job postings require them to speak Mandarin. Is learning English then still considered giving everyone an equal opportunity to get a job?
Secondly, the national language of Singapore is Malay due to geographical, political and historical reasons. However, with the rise in English as the main mode of communication (and some may argue even Mandarin), are Singaporeans losing their sense of identity, history and place in the Malay world?
Another question to ask is, why must we think of race as "static" i.e. if you're Chinese you must speak Mandarin. There are Indonesian Chinese who are proud to speak in Bahasa Indonesia and Malaysians (whether Chinese, Malay, Peranakans, Tamils) who are much more multi-lingual than Singaporeans in their languages such as Malay, Hokkien, Hakka, Tamil etc. Countries like New Zealand recognise the indigenous language of their country like Maori and promote them on their university websites. Can Singapore do the same with her National language rather than just army commands and symbolic means?
What's makes the difference? By making English as a national didn't make Singaporean English better than Malaysian English. Because most Malaysian regardless race and religion can easily master multiple languages.
There was no way Lky could’ve chosen Chinese as his Hokkien was actually better than his Mandarin then.
But look at the current situation..there are more Malaysians who speak English , Malay + Mother tounge better than Singaporean .. Singaporean on the contrary are becoming monolingual day by day
These Boleh that Boleh only in giving out coffee money. CORRUPTION!
As long as there is corruption in Malaysia the majority in Malaysia will stay ignorant and suppressed while Singapore continues to prosper and progress in the 21st century!
Singapore being kick out of the Federation of Malaysia on 9th August 1965 was a blessing in disguise for Singapore.
You're absolutely RIGHT. Had Singapore still remain a part of Malaysia today, she would still be a fishing village or at it's very best, Singaporeans would still be living their lives in the 1960s.
Singapore's sole reason of joining was to stop the threat of communism
Once that is over they were seeking a way out
In other words they got premature independence
lucky for Singapore
@@raymondlow393: Singapore already had the highest standard of living in Asia after 日本国 anyway in August 1965, raymond.
Besides, it was in the UK’s interest to assure Singapore prospered - or at least progressed - as they had generations of their Asia-Pacific tertiary sectors established there.
For now
I'm Singaporean born and bred. In Singapore we have lots of foreigners and big foreign companies. That's why our English is decent.
I liken Singapore to a Western MNC. That was one of the key reasons why Singaporeans are able to adapt to using English in their daily conversation.
…you’re a humble person for using the word,decent! 😜
Dr M when he was minister of education for Malaysia, threw out the baby with the bathwater.
Substituted English medium teaching for Bahasa medium teaching.
Bahasa as well as English not instead of.
Dr M collapsed the education system in Malaysia.
A low level decision with no account for the future.
Singapore is light years ahead of Malaysia in this regard.
Pushing Malay at the expense of all else.
Dr M has screwed Malaysians in respect of their future.
Very true..,
While his children were educated in English and I’m very sure are still using English in their comms with him.
I grew up in newly independent Malaysia in the 1960s and being 100% Queen's English educated, I experienced great difficulties trying to communicate with Malaysians of all ethnicities whenever I spoke to them in flawless English. My grasp of Malay then was very weak and the little Bahasa Pasar that I spoke was the only means to communicate with them. It was particularly bad whenever I travelled to the rural areas (Malay kampongs, Chinese new villages and the estates with 100% Indians) where hardly anyone spoke English. It was Malay again that saved the day for me. In all honesty, switching the medium of instruction of the national schools to Malay helped a lot to unify a nation populated by so many different ethnic groups and languages.
Singapore adopted pragmatism as its philosophy of governance and public administration right from the start. Free from any ideological baggage and limitations, the government is able to adapt its policies and practices in accordance with the constantly changing world conditions.
It was Mahathir who decline the use of English in major subject like math,Science and history.
History should always be taught in native language
He was the one who insisted the syllabus was taught in English for maths and science. A lot of people fought him on this, I still remember
How come outsiders know our history differently I wonder
Malaysia boleh. They boleh at corruption. 😂
Malaysia is just too proud to admit Singapore is doing better in education than them, the unwillingness to admit they are not doing a good job is making them unable to change.. as they stubbornly keep their old ways. In order to improve, you need to first identify and admit the flaw, and then you can make the change.
If you are unwilling to admit your system is inferior then you will resist accepting change and continue to be producing poor results year after year.
Ego, pride and arrogance 😂
Do not enlighten them, let them keep it that way always.
Malaysia Is Neither Too Proud,Stubborn Nor Unwilling.Its Priority Rest On Race And Religion,Anything Else Has To Play Second Fiddle.
You need to remember that Malaysia is 455 times geographically larger and with 6 times more people than Singapore. There are over 60 different ethnic groups living in Malaysia, each having their own languages and dialects. The education system and language policies for such a country will be very different from that practiced by a city state with just 3 main ethnic groups.
你因此應該含有意識新加坡是馬來西亞的基地。
Anda oleh itu harus tahu bahawa Singapura adalah penjuru (asas) Malaysia.
馬來西亞概念﹝the “Grand Design”﹞的關鍵是新加坡。
Tunjang utama (linchpin) konsep Malaysia (the “Grand Design”) ialah Singapura.
砂拉越和北婆羅洲﹝沙巴﹞的領袖因此決定放棄他們更好的判斷來支持這個想法。
Pemimpin Sarawak & Borneo Utara (Sabah) oleh itu membuat keputusan menentang pertimbangan mereka yang lebih baik untuk meneruskan idea itu.
Under him, Malaysia growth stagnant...going backwards
There's a difference between English proficiency versus English accent.
Every nation has its own accent in speaking (how the words sound). What matters more is what you say and how you say it- which means to be grammatically sound. And that include doing so in writing.
If some Malaysian politicians think that Singapore teachers are not good in English just because of one's accent, then they just need to scrutinize themselves among their government whether their ministers can speak grammatically correct English.
Furthermore, why would Singapore teachers volunteer in Malaysia when they can do so in Singapore? What benefits would they gain in doing so?
Furthermore, why would Singapore teachers volunteer in Malaysia when they can do so in Singapore? What benefits would they gain in doing so?
Exactly, Malaysia want to be a AI-country, Get English as main language first b4 you even talk about AI.
@@maxp670 - - - They probably are thinking to teach AI in Malay and call it A-Saya.
@@maxp670 Yeah, MP Phua was probably salty when the Spore v Msia comparison was brought up; and anyone who thinks an accent invalidates their ability to speak proper English is kinda stupid, but I think there is a sizeable population of proficient English speakers in Malaysia, it is just a matter of creating the right incentive to harness that ability, just like what Spore did to keep its best as teachers, Malaysia could learn those policies. Rather than bringing in Sporeans, which to your point, won't bring long term benefits, if they won't choose to stay long term.
Singapore has a government comprising of international corporation grade members, that's why they are so successful.
Because Dr M loves Roti Prata
Madhatter is a mamak (like Singapore nasi lemak seller kelong president Halimah), a half-indian, despite writing A Malay Dilemma & being a Ultra Malay chauvinist.
Because Mr Lee KY was our founding father 🙏
Good video. A small correction though, the National Language Act 1963/67 wasn't the reason the medium of instructions of schools switched to Malay. Article 152 of the Federal Constitution permits the use of languages other than Malay in schools. The law merely compels the federal and state governments to use the national language for "official purposes". English schools specifically were closed at the primary and secondary levels after the May 13 race riots of 1969.
Singapore, as part of Malaya, shared a similar history with regards to vernacular schools in 4 major languages: English, Malay, Chinese, Tamil. After the initial separation of Singapore from Malaya via the creation of the Malayan Union, and subsequently the Federation of Malaya, Singapore and the Federation had diverging approaches to vernacular education. Malaysia designated malay medium schools as national schools with all others being labelled national-type, while in Singapore there was equal treatment for all 4 language streams. Also, Malaysia only allowed for 4 language streams at the primary level, with malay or english at the secondary level. Thus, after May 13, a political decision was made by then Education Minister Abdul Rahman Yaakob to announce the conversion of all english medium schools to the malay medium. He did this without consulting the Cabinet and gained enough political mileage to return to Sarawak as the next Chief Minister in 1970.
Long story short, constitutionally speaking english schools are not a problem, Article 152 was the same when Singapore was still in the Federation. In the end, the problem is not so much legal as it is political.
My wife got sick and tired of all the whole fark up systems in Malaysia and recounced her citizenship. Thank you Malaysia for giving my wife to me with her talent contributing to our Nation's progress 😂
I am the other way round. My family emigrated from Singapore to Malaya in the 1950s....lol
Because LKY had the foresight that English is vital as a business language, not any other languages (at least for now).
Our policies and priorities are not the same. Nonetheless, in Malaysia many high-income parents are sending their children to private institutions, and overseas graduates are finding jobs abroad and not returning, which has resulted in brain drain.
When a country nationalise without considering future impacts, things fall apart!
The culture of meritocracy versus mediocrity made a world of difference. Singapore is the Malaysia model which succeeded, Malaysia is the one which failed.
That's why a lot of Chinese try their best to send their children overseas to get degrees
The fate and future of Malaysia have already been firmly grounded and oneself would be able to extrapolate its potential future development. Interestingly, Malaysia's "Federal Constitution of Malaysia", is written in the English Language whereas, the entire country's Education System presently is based primarily on Bahasa Melayu, thus in reality, most Malaysians present times, do not understand nor are taught nor even able to read their own country's Constitution. That can tell you plenty ... about this country's future ....
My late great grandma too couldn't read the consitution neither but she lived through the Brits colonials, the Japs occupation and the commies terrorism. She lived her life fully. Who wrote the constitution anyway? Monkeys?
Having taught in Singapore at both the PSLE and O-levels, I can vouch that the curriculum of the Little Red Dot enables students to speak and write in English better than many Malaysian fresh graduate teachers. Many taxi drivers, bus captains, janitors, coffee shop owners speak English too. It's like comparing heaven and earth.
All Singaporean kepo here about other country. Their country let them decide !
i think malaysia focus on islamic teaching more for it's malay people
Malaysia is capable of pusing kanan pusing kiri resulted in its failure to raise the standard of English teaching in schools. I left Malaysia long ago to reside in Singapore. Thanks to the Government of Singapore giving the best tertiary education to my children.
Sabah and sarawak seperating from malaysia will make them richer than malaysia lol
If they don't secede their resources will continue to be stolen.
Exactly
I don’t think Malaysia would necessarily need English educators from Singapore or even need to be full on fluent in English. They just need to get their priorities right. Look at Japan now. If they aren’t so xenophobic and Japan is only for Japanese only shutting their doors to “outsiders” literally speaking, they wouldn’t have fallen behind. As for Malaysia, if you put religion and race before meritocracy for obvious reasons, well, then you’ll stay where you are.
Going to the stone age
Malaysia does NOT need foreigners to teach English in schools as they already have a pool of capable local teachers. All the MoE needs to do is to look out for them and tap into their talents. The nation also has brilliant minds to design a curriculum that lasts - but many are sidelined for political reasons, or they left retired early out of frustration.
Roti prata country
Is that a bad thing though? hmm😊
Roti canai
I'm a Malaysian who attended Singapore university. I am awed by how Singapore became one of the richest countries in the world. Malaysia is still embroiled in religious racial issues while its educational standards have plummeted. No comparison
malaysia is malaysia and singapore is singapore. everyone have their own vision for the country. Obviously, malays want to use malay as their national language. it's the same as if you're spain, germans or whatever. And in these countries they have their own geniuses. Doesn't mean you have to know english to become an expert in anything. English is just a tool for communications. Unlike english folks, most other non-english countries are bilinguals. They can speak different and many languages.
And Malaysia remains the kampong champion because “malayness”😂
Whether Malaysia will continue to flip flop is still based on their own policies and the acceptance of their own citizens.
What type of lives they pursue does not depend on the views of other nations.
Changes can only be made by their own citizens.
Malay Only instruction education programs would be a huge turn off for international students. They would rather go to English instruction education programs.
the main reason the singapore government can implement good policies is because singapore is not a full democracy
How many people in the world use English and how many use Bahasa Melayu---you have your answer
If Malaysia make English as a working language for their people, Omg...
That’s the foresight of a brilliant leader where the country’s n people’s interests, not selfish personal interests,comes first, During the late fifties n sixties, when we spoke our mother tongue, beside English in class, we would be reprimanded by the Headmaster, let alone the teachers. Things suddenly ‘ overturned ‘ when this guy became the Education Minister in the seventies. He changed the whole structure of the Education system, emphasising Bahasa Malaysia as the medium of instruction. Of course we love n respect the BM but English was ‘ equally ‘ important ‘. He sent his children overseas n when they came back, they became political leaders, leaving our children hanging in the balance. Many of our graduates find it difficult to find a job in International companies as they require English but many cannot write a simple sentence. But before his retirement, he stressed on the importance of English, but far too late. But l see many Malay n Chinese parents nowadays send their children to English tuition classes.. What a encouraging sight. Nothing is too late.
Please we already do not have enough teachers here in Singapore
Imagine if PM Lawrence Wong's parents did not migrate to Singapore.
190% debt against what? Not all national debt is the same. Singapore national debt is a very good thing. Efficient use of money. Chock on that
The outcome in the society and economic development speaks for itself.
Compare both the education systems and school administrations along with facilities across both countries to see the sharp contrast. Iant it obvious?
Mahatair was the prime minister, Anwar pmx was the minister of education. Please get this right. As u can see he Anwar is not even bothered to make this right - sighting that it very difficult n needs time.
In my opinion, it would be best to maintain Malay as the medium of instruction in national schools. The demographics of the country still favour this arrangement. Nearly 70% of the population are Malays and other indigenous ethnicities from Sabah and Sarawak who are more comfortable speaking Malay and Borneon languages which are closer to Malay than to English. In addition, a large portion of the population are residing in rural areas where very little or no English is spoken or used. If the entire national school system were to switch to using English overnight, even for science and mathematics, many of these students would struggle to understand their lessons. What is important in education is not the language used to teach but to ensure that the students fully comprehend what they are being taught. This is best achieved by using the language which the students are most comfortable and familiar with. We see the same practice being done in schools in advance countries like Germany, France, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan. Clearly Malaysia has been following the correct and most logical path in her effort to integrate and unify her people though the use of a common national language.
As long as there are Lordship status, unity is a nonsense word. Will you befriend some one thst is superior to you? You won't and you stay away from them..Sane with Lordship, they too are migrants from Micronesia.
@@truthful3777 sorry but I do not fully comprehend your comment. Care to explain in layman's language?
Useless education minister
They always say themselves we are boleh 😮 wtf 😬 😊
What's the fuss on learning English???? I speak fluent English but I could only secure a job as a shopkeeper!
Now I learn Arabic, Hebrew and German as additonal language just for the fun of adding more tongues.
Corruption is so deep rooted in Malaysia, it’s beyond help. It’s like stage four cancer.
Malaysia win god medals in corruption every year
Malaysia win gold medal in corruption every year
Mahatir thinks that the Malay language is a global lingua franca
If you want to learn pure and authentic malay, you should learn it from it's native who live in malay native homeland which is Riau Province, Riau Islands Province and Jambi Province that located in sumatra island chain in Indonesia. These three provinces are the native homeland of the malay people and malay language.
Any malay who live outside of these 3 provinces are having their ancestor from these 3 provinces migrating to that place centuries ago.
Malay in malay peninsula are separated in two group. Old malay located in the northern malay peninsula states including southern thai malay group, migrating to that land on the early century AD, and Young malay located in the southern malay peninsula states including singapore, migrating to that land on 14th century during parameswara rebelion against Majapahit empire authority
In 3 malay provinces of Indonesia, malay language that taught in school are authentic and relatively pure malay with small influence of european language loan words. These malay language lesson are also taught alongside the national language of indonesia, which is Bahasa Indonesia.
This is all govt cross border initiatives. What each country gets out of each other is any ones guess. I am singaporean. I think malaysians speak english fine. If there is something lacking in malaysia, can anyone blame the people? Everything in the media locally is in malay and in schools too. In fact non malay Malaysians speak bahasa melayu with expert ease. Because they have to learn! Not the same with Malaysian malays. They dont have to learn english. Even the sultan of johor a few yrs back admitted. He said’look at singspore. Theyre progressing by leaps snd bounds because their main language in schools, business and everyday use is english. Malaysia is still in the middle ages!’ His very words. How are malaysians going to compete in the international market if their mastery of english is poor. You cant compete in bahasa melayu.
Had English speaking decade passed, bahasa malayu raised 😅
MALAYSIA NEVER IMPROVED FOR MANY YEARS UNDER HIS RULE.
Because we are Flipper.
You can hear LKY laughing
Malaya and the Chinese vernacular schools are gravitating to Mandarin. With dedolarization, more trading and economy activities will be with China. English will be second tier for commercial liaising with the OECD. Malay language is there for identity keeping and pride. China with its Mandarin, Japan for Japanese, Korea for Korean, UK and US for English hence Malaya for Malay. Boleh berbahasa Melayu? Tak susah mempelajari Bahasa Melayu.
Why bring out this? While the dominant language or people know are Chinese language. So it voice down who is your business partner and it needs.
There is no meritocracy and so in 2,3 or 5 years it will interesting to see what is the exchange rate of S$1 to RM$_•__
We have to go back to History---Tunku Abdul Rahman
Malaysia's blunder....will never will come out of its hypocrisy coffin. 😢😢
hello... fact check me..... the national language in Singapore is still Malay
Regardless of previous , now or even future Malaysia 🇲🇾 is no where near Singapore 🇸🇬 whether you like it or not cos truth don't lie 😮
Haiya! Singapore very stressful country...sohai
continue to flip please, i am looking forward to 1:4. haha
Malaysia way, nobody business..
I old schooled Singaporean today at 71, If we are True Singaporeans, we must definitely help MALAYSIA as much as possible they are our closest neighbor, fact we can continue to grow if we also have a strong neighbor not a weaker neighbor. I’m only guessing here I’m sure our greatest PM Lee will opt. to help Malaysia 🇲🇾. Do you think that would be his thinking?
You can help too, like if you come to Malaysia, only spend money on businesses that speaks proper English, let them know that if they want money, English is needed, else they lost the opportunity.
The latest VEP implementation is another deficiency of their administration...we have abt 500k car, you can only process 80-100a day, how long do u think it takes to get 100k car to get the rfid installed? Lets say 400k decide not to travel to jb any more..how much revenue would u loose..
FAILED COUNTRY..
The Best Teachers are the British. It's their mother tongue. British Consul
True that
Having grown up in Singapore, I agree with the Malaysian MP's statement. Singaporeans don't speak either English or Mandarin well.
Yes, today Singapore's debt reached 190%, 9% gst, Coe, living in 99 years leasehold micro hdb flat, can't afford a car, no freedom of speech, authoritarian, not fluent in native language and their english is terrible.
PM already bring Palestinian & Hamas to teach .... ?
Chinese mainland also come and never go back...........
English is widely spoken in Malaysia already..more and more youngsters are eager to improve their English..some even adopt English as their first language before learning their mother tounge..yet they still be able to learn the National Language+Mother tounge and be fluent in all three .. Singaporean?? Monolingual
Anything cheap is not good. Anything good is not cheap. So volunteering might not bring the expected goal in improving English among students. The MP did not mean that Malaysians are far better in English compared to Singaporeans. Instead what he meant is why is Malaysia not using it's abundance of local talents? Especially those retired and even senior graduates of yesteryears. Maybe Malaysia doesn't want to pay for it, volunteering is free.
Because Singapore has only it's position in the world and it's citizens whereas Malaysia has a lot of fertile land, tin maybe no more now and oil etc
So what? We are happy with our not so high income stressful life...food is cheaper, petrol is cheaper, rent is cheaper and more laidback😂
You guys are obsessed with Malaysia huh
Bahasa Melayu is the best and powerful language in the world. Please continue to use Bahasa Melayu for teaching in school.
The language of Otak Udang. Shyabas!!!
0:00 My only concern is, why is there a need to insult potential volunteers? 🤷♂
If you prefer to engage local teachers, just say so. The MP's comment is just unnecessary.
Why help someone that don’t appreciate your offer?
In latest QS university ranking, NUS number 8!! No Malaysian university in even top 50. Oh, university malaya no. 60. So please compare 8 and 60!
Most fcuked up human ever