The Story of Underground Project M Tournaments

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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2024
  • This is the story of how Nintendo tried to kill a game, and how the community refuses to die.
    yes I know I pronounced féte wrong
    Special thanks to friend of the channel and PM player ‪@madison_hailstorm‬ for the songs:
    Sharp Objects
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    Things Have Been Difficult Lately
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  • @Shadowhawke75
    @Shadowhawke75 6 месяцев назад +100

    AYOOO WISELY THANK YOU FOR THE SHOUTOUTTTTTTTTT
    fantastic video, really highlighted all the struggles of the community,
    you are the best

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад +12

      Thanks for making the section so easy to make, your Lucas is dope

    • @CannibalSerb
      @CannibalSerb 6 месяцев назад +5

      This is now my biggest regret of throwing at shine so you could win

    • @Shadowhawke75
      @Shadowhawke75 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@CannibalSerb it truly was a perfect storm for me to win lmao

    • @FirePuff12
      @FirePuff12 6 месяцев назад +3

      I LOVE YOUR LUCAS

    • @Shadowhawke75
      @Shadowhawke75 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@FirePuff12 thank you so much!!!

  • @puunk_9240
    @puunk_9240 6 месяцев назад +97

    Oh and thank you for highlighting that the best esports titles have historically had roots in being modifications existing games because that's something i think a lot of people aren't as aware of these days

  • @venomturtle17
    @venomturtle17 6 месяцев назад +60

    Sacrificing my room to help host the PM tournament was my favorite part of going to TBH. The stories those weekends created will be remembered for life.

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад +4

      God what a weekend

    • @venomturtle17
      @venomturtle17 6 месяцев назад +3

      I love telling the story of how we met and decided to travel to TBH together, and it may be over told but I think the story really captures the spirit of the PM community. "You play this game, I play this game. Do we need more reasons to drive 9 hours across multiple states to attend a tournament together?"

  • @GHNeko
    @GHNeko 3 месяца назад +8

    Former PM Dev here. Helping out with Combo Devils.
    Came across this video by chance while looking into Rivals 2.
    Shame I haven't found you before but I'm glad to have found you know. Thanks for this video :)

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  3 месяца назад +2

      I love this, thank you for the message!
      I actually really wanted to try CD at Genesis, but I ran out of time. Best of luck on the game!

  • @_fudgepop01
    @_fudgepop01 6 месяцев назад +19

    Shadowhawke absolutely deserved that win after terrorizing Wombat Wednesday’s online netplay brackets week after week - the lad is awesome

    • @WombatFights
      @WombatFights 6 месяцев назад +5

      Do you mean the east coast P+ netplay weekly with auto l-cancel, a dedicated build, and inclusive community??? This Shadowhawke guy must be the real deal!

    • @Shadowhawke75
      @Shadowhawke75 6 месяцев назад +5

      BRING IT BACK​@@WombatFights

  • @kycse
    @kycse 6 месяцев назад +28

    I love this. Thanks for talking about this in a video. You're a real one Wisely

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад +3

      Miss you dude, hope I see you soon

  • @omegax1289
    @omegax1289 6 месяцев назад +9

    If it wasn't for Project M, I would never have been introduced to competitive platform fighters. To see the scene still fighting on like this is beautiful. Thanks for making the video Wisley!

  • @RosiYYAP
    @RosiYYAP 6 месяцев назад +13

    We live in your walls 💜💜💜

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад +3

      Holy crap, I don't think anyone's ever done one of these before LOL
      Thank you!

  • @sirjesterful7947
    @sirjesterful7947 6 месяцев назад +7

    You absolutely killed it, Wisely. if it wasn't for PM, I would never have found my local smash scene and, by extension, the FGC as a whole. PM probably changed my life, and now the FGC is one of my biggest passions.

  • @ougonce
    @ougonce 6 месяцев назад +8

    This is so sick. I don't play Smash or PM but as a modder for a different fighting game, it's really great to see the lengths people will go to play their favorite game. Modding takes video games and makes it about the people, and it's what I love the most about it.

  • @CannibalSerb
    @CannibalSerb 6 месяцев назад +8

    Wisely is the goat plain and simple
    Also SHADOWhawke starts winning SHADOWmajors, I think he's cheating

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад +2

      I was gonna say something tbh, someone check the vods

  • @HelloAxi
    @HelloAxi 6 месяцев назад +3

    PM kindled my drive for competition and design, and now I'm having a blast working on another pfg (RushRev). Maybe it's time i stopped back in :)

  • @ordeosca
    @ordeosca 6 месяцев назад +7

    Amazing video! I've only been playing PM for a short while, so while I of course tangentially knew the history, it was nice to see it laid out in such a digestible manner, great work Wisely!

  • @braxinIV
    @braxinIV 6 месяцев назад +3

    Been patiently (and hopelessly) waiting for a Project M documentary. This definitely scratched that itch.

  • @StudebacherHoch
    @StudebacherHoch 6 месяцев назад +2

    Banger video and excellent choice of Madison Hailstorm for the music

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks friend ♥️

  • @deor_official
    @deor_official 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ayo! Look, mom, I'm on TV! Seriously, though, thanks for highlighting us for the world to see. U've been with PM since 2.6 and even if the circumstances necessitating it suck, the rise of tbe shadow major has been some of the most fun I've had in competitive Smash, full stop. Wish I was able to travel outside of Texas for them, but maybe some day.
    Support your local PM scene! And if you don't think you have one, just check behind the walls

  • @spaghetti_Steven
    @spaghetti_Steven 6 месяцев назад +1

    13:13 made me feel so heard.
    I loved PM, and going to tournaments back in the day is such a core part of my life. I'm mostly into other games now, but seeing players like Twisty and Kumatora still going strong makes me so happy.
    Power to P+. Fuck Nintendo.

  • @Coolio_Ash
    @Coolio_Ash 6 месяцев назад +1

    Oh, they dont just hate pm, they hate competitive smash as a whole

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад +2

      Oh I'm acutely aware

  • @clydew.7673
    @clydew.7673 6 месяцев назад +2

    Subbed, upvoted, liked, tattood the video thumbnail on my body.
    Big ups, Wisely -- thank you for bringing visibility to this community.

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад +1

      Oh god I can't change the thumbnail now

    • @GazerPlur420
      @GazerPlur420 6 месяцев назад

      Hahaha that was a great comment+

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад

      I'm so sorry

  • @swiminonland9818
    @swiminonland9818 6 месяцев назад +2

    so brave for trying to pronounce worcester off rip and running with it. beast vid

  • @LunaireTD
    @LunaireTD 6 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing video, love the vibe! Super cool to see the result of this after hearing you talk about it on stream

  • @life-destiny1196
    @life-destiny1196 6 месяцев назад +2

    I even encountered a guy who brought (an emulator setup of) PM to EVO '22 and was playing it near the casual setups. I didn't have my controller on me at the moment, but I totally wish I'd played that guy, just so I could say I did.

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад

      I brought one to Evo 23 LOL (with FGC titles and Melee on it too)

  • @FirePuff12
    @FirePuff12 6 месяцев назад +1

    I can't wait to sit down and watch all of this. Tysm Wisely for another exciting video!
    I'm mostly into Melee, but I have a lot of memories with PM and will always be a supporter.
    I first discovered it back in 2012, when it was just a project to replace Falco's Shine in Brawl with the Melee one.
    So cool how it kept going from there, and despite all the unfortunate events, y'all never gave up.
    And shoutouts to Lucas, such a cool character!!

  • @nevergreen_wastaken
    @nevergreen_wastaken 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is a wonderful video, dude. Thank you for your continuous contributions to the spirit of this game and its community.

  • @puunk_9240
    @puunk_9240 6 месяцев назад +2

    Absolutely phenomenal video. Thank you.
    My first project m tournament was the fight at fireside, a national Arcadian in 2021 that Shadowhawke won, and my first big tournament that I helped run was Shine out of shield in 2023, which Shadowhawke also won... Hmm

  • @connorkelly5382
    @connorkelly5382 6 месяцев назад +1

    the evo pic jumpscare was insane

  • @WombatFights
    @WombatFights 6 месяцев назад +1

    The guy running the stream at PM at The Big House went to bed or something and I wound up running the scoreboard for top 8 lmao

  • @ceramicalien
    @ceramicalien 6 месяцев назад

    incredible video Wisely!!
    this community is so resilient and passionate that idk how anyone could not love it

  • @Eon_TAS
    @Eon_TAS 6 месяцев назад +4

    Man PMs sicc

    • @Eon_TAS
      @Eon_TAS 6 месяцев назад +1

      But why is shine out of shield not called shineglide

  • @rillabel
    @rillabel 6 месяцев назад +2

    really great vid, I love the music! makin me wanna try to get into pm again :^)

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад +1

      Stream Madison Hailstorm 🔥

  • @supermarilink
    @supermarilink 6 месяцев назад

    Man, I love this. Thanks for putting this together, Wisely.
    Competing and then being on the commentary team for PM at Kings of the North IV is one of my most core gaming memories. Being on mic for Prof Pro vs. Sothe was surreal. I miss PM man, thank you for this video eulogy.

  • @captainbirdman2890
    @captainbirdman2890 6 месяцев назад

    Super awesome video, Wisely! Literally one of my best tournament performances was at a shadow major at LTC, I think it was called Shipwrecked 2? Maybe it was Shipfaced, I can't recall off the top of my head. But we started the event at 10pm because we had heard Nintendo reps were touring the facility during the day to make sure PM wasn't happening, so we literally just waited until they left to make some setups and start the tourney.

  • @Barf_FaB
    @Barf_FaB 6 месяцев назад

    This is too hype. The sound track in the back went so perfectly

  • @omegakyle_fgc
    @omegakyle_fgc 6 месяцев назад

    I went “YEAHH!!” several times over the course of this video

  • @AZNBeefcake
    @AZNBeefcake 6 месяцев назад +1

    My favorite smash game. Thanks for making this

  • @MrCocktaiI
    @MrCocktaiI 6 месяцев назад

    It's insane that I had no clue about these shadow majors. Great vid!

  • @RosiYYAP
    @RosiYYAP 6 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent video, thanks so much for this Wisely

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад +2

      I'll definitely be at some Chicago stuff this year

  • @res0smash
    @res0smash 6 месяцев назад +1

    Fun video. Love a good trip down memory lane. A lot of my best tournament memories come from random hotel rooms overcrowded with PM players from all around the world. It will always have a special place in my heart ❤

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад +2

      Miss you man, hope I see you again soon

    • @res0smash
      @res0smash 6 месяцев назад

      @@atWisely Miss you too man. I managed to actually get out to Shine out of Shield to watch Shadowhawke be dope live. Gotta go to more stuff this 2024 :)

  • @davidvkimball
    @davidvkimball 6 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing work!

  • @zerothetheif
    @zerothetheif 2 месяца назад

    I remember that TBH5 hotel room matches. Lots of DQs, but it was still rad

  • @Tuckzelda
    @Tuckzelda 6 месяцев назад +1

    Incredible job wisely, much love

  • @Samanthaa_s
    @Samanthaa_s 6 месяцев назад

    great video :) the pm scene is awesome

  • @NCProjectM
    @NCProjectM 6 месяцев назад

    oh hey! 7:00-8:00 that was my hotel room for top 8 lol.
    it was total luck. I happened to bring my laptop and streaming equipment, and happened to have a decent wifi signal in our room where most people in the hotel had next to 0 connection.
    Its funny you mention that plup made $260+, because 2nd place made more money. Bobby frizz was playing in GFs, and Darkrain stumbles in kinda drunk. He yells at bobby, telling him he sucks at the game etc etc, trash talk. People tell him to be quiet since we had noise warning from the front desk since it was so late. Someone mentioned this was GFs and to let them focus and darkrain LOSES it. "No way, he can't be in grands, I told him if he made money I would triple his earnings!" Bobby goes on to lose to plup, earning 2nd. Pulp makes 260 or so, and bobby makes over 300 lol.
    it was so cool to be a part of PM history like this. Thanks Wisely for making this, long live PM/P+.
    -JELLY

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад +1

      I love hearing all the old stories from this, thank you so much for being a part of history.

  • @d.g4466
    @d.g4466 6 месяцев назад

    nintendo ninjas lurking for round 420690

  • @haruz8401
    @haruz8401 6 месяцев назад +1

    I SAW MY NAME. IM FAMOUS. But seriously i still play pm 3 times a week. It is and will forever be my fav game. Thanks to all the people who keep it alive and keep it goin. You all are the GOATS

  • @Sk8r115
    @Sk8r115 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent work!

  • @skratchingpost6692
    @skratchingpost6692 6 месяцев назад

    a great video all about a great game. the love for their game that the pm scene has cant be beat.
    shine out of shield sounds like it was an amazing event to attend in person, wish i was there. i wonder who came up with the name for it 🤔

  • @Fedivdicher
    @Fedivdicher 6 месяцев назад +3

    Nintendo hates PM cause they’re incapable of making a better game than it. I remember my Uber casual roommates asking if we could play pm instead of ultimate, cause shocker people like it when you can do fun and cool shit in the game 😂and skill gaps will always be a thing, i bodied them in both games and they still wanted to play the game with the larger skill gap

    • @BronzeAgePepper
      @BronzeAgePepper 5 месяцев назад

      I liked Ultimate but man, it's so freaking LAME now. It was never meant to be competitive, they left the game in a similar state as Smash 4. P+ will outlive it, unless Nintendo gets their way (which is unfortunately very likely)

  • @dhbroad
    @dhbroad 6 месяцев назад

    This is incredible and I had no idea it was still so big. I was hoping something like this was happening

  • @dh3913
    @dh3913 6 месяцев назад

    Ahhh I remember 2014/2015 when PM tournaments were more commonly streamed/viewable. Loved watching them.

  • @saucytriceratops365
    @saucytriceratops365 6 месяцев назад

    Great watch! And also so happy to have found some new music, Madison Hailstorm is awesome!

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад

      Lesssgoooooooo

  • @DuskTheHero
    @DuskTheHero 6 месяцев назад

    Very cool to learn about, Project M/+ has always clearly been present and competitive, but I never really knew how!

  • @whatafewl7382
    @whatafewl7382 6 месяцев назад

    FINALLY MORE PM! i’ve been missing my favorite player MrLz for so so long as my older brother grew up watching him dominate with his character, been waiting for more gameplay/info to come out again recently, NINTENDO CANT STOP US!

  • @GazerPlur420
    @GazerPlur420 6 месяцев назад

    Great video Wisley! Got pumped enough to pick up the controller and start labbing lmao.
    I spent a decade of my life training, traveling, and competing in this bastard child of a game, but I got you, and the entire scene out of it and I wouldnt trade it for the world.
    We have very real friends in alot of different places. We have been to places we normally wouldnt have ever visited. Nothing will ever give me adrenaline spikes like playing smash. A very special time in my life.

  • @muqmanor
    @muqmanor 5 месяцев назад

    Endless respect for continuing to fly the PM flag high. I haven't attended a local in years but I still watch majors when I can and it makes me happy to see the scene still kicking after all this time.

  • @baosackk
    @baosackk 6 месяцев назад

    Heartwarming video. Legit made me cry. ):

  • @Xearrik
    @Xearrik 6 месяцев назад

    I never heard about these shadow majors before. Interesting stuff.

  • @Gabriel64468
    @Gabriel64468 6 месяцев назад

    2:57 EU mentioned! Swell in 3.6 and mooi feeling of gezelligheid!
    Also, great video Wisely :)

  • @flubbsflubberson
    @flubbsflubberson 4 месяца назад

    I owe so many memories and friendships formed in my late teens/early 20’s to this game. Thank you for the excellent content on it.

  • @KlineFGC
    @KlineFGC 6 месяцев назад

    Amazing video! I love it

  • @ethanpritt542
    @ethanpritt542 6 месяцев назад +1

    Wisely looks like the poro professor logo

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад

      What does this mean

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад

      Oh no

  • @LillLizzert
    @LillLizzert 6 месяцев назад

    Shadow Majors is such a cool name

  • @shivernaut8607
    @shivernaut8607 2 месяца назад

    team fortress famously starting as a quake mod

  • @NumbreonSSB
    @NumbreonSSB 6 месяцев назад

    Beautiful video to watch before work. Long live P+

  • @ENEMii-IRL
    @ENEMii-IRL 6 месяцев назад

    This shit was amazing man, loved the video, it was beautiful

  • @asoapshoeinthesea6780
    @asoapshoeinthesea6780 6 месяцев назад

    great video

  • @peregrinecovington4138
    @peregrinecovington4138 6 месяцев назад

    I've long thought about how Project M is the most punk esports scene. Cool to see it in a video lol

  • @sprooka9527
    @sprooka9527 6 месяцев назад

    this bald guy is really cool

  • @Colemanbearpig
    @Colemanbearpig 6 месяцев назад

    Ty

  • @obsidianchao
    @obsidianchao День назад

    PM was the best era of my life and it’s just been downhill ever since

  • @mxsteak
    @mxsteak 6 месяцев назад

    thank you wisely

  • @link0192
    @link0192 6 месяцев назад

    I’ll always have PM to thank for making me who I am today. From the college game Room to being a TO. Pm changed the trajectory of my life. I’ve made so many friends from it. I miss pm and I miss you Wisely. You lived in Philly only briefly but you were such a cool guy I’m happy I got to meet you

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад

      I miss Philly so much, I'd love to see everyone again someday!

    • @link0192
      @link0192 6 месяцев назад

      @@atWisely yea I haven’t seen any of them in awhile either. Philly PM kinda dead rn but I’m sure if we tried to do something we could get like Dusty and Seraphim outta retirement 😂

  • @ArtemisG671
    @ArtemisG671 6 месяцев назад

    Banger video!!

  • @toolbar12423
    @toolbar12423 6 месяцев назад +1

    Now THIS is gaming

  • @Wojo_42
    @Wojo_42 6 месяцев назад

    We live those

  • @twobadour
    @twobadour 6 месяцев назад

    Even some of the music was by a PM player, amazing

  • @kylecarlon6800
    @kylecarlon6800 6 месяцев назад

    Super sick vid :)

  • @JAMllostthegame
    @JAMllostthegame 6 месяцев назад

    Man I haven't thought about P:M since i last played it at MAGfest last year. Someone brought their setup and I think I stopped by every day at least once or twice thst weekend lol.

  • @johnleecooper8520
    @johnleecooper8520 6 месяцев назад

    absolute banger video!! everybody watching go to at least one pm major or local this year k thanks

  • @brightglow
    @brightglow 6 месяцев назад

    Phenomenal video, sign me up!!!

  • @andygranados63
    @andygranados63 6 месяцев назад

    sick video

  • @BDocc
    @BDocc 6 месяцев назад

    I Love you Wisely incredible work long live PM!

  • @x9x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9x9 6 месяцев назад

    Nintendo doesn't just hate project M, nintendo hates their fans in general especially the smash players.
    Anyways if PM/P+ gets roll back (I know its being worked on but isn't close to being done) I think we could see a resurgence at least a fairly large underground scene. I love playing P+ but I dont like the hassle of playing it online.

  • @owenriker7082
    @owenriker7082 6 месяцев назад

    Amazing video gamer

  • @wateverwill
    @wateverwill 6 месяцев назад

    PM is sick

  • @dirtsquids9854
    @dirtsquids9854 6 месяцев назад

    Amazing

  • @MrDrumStikz
    @MrDrumStikz 6 месяцев назад

    Minor nitpick: it's pronounced "Worst-er."

  • @Kade503
    @Kade503 6 месяцев назад +1

    Nintendo is infuriating

  • @Nayri_ssbm
    @Nayri_ssbm 6 месяцев назад

    We live in your walls

  • @MrKirby747
    @MrKirby747 6 месяцев назад

    PROJECT M LIVE FOREVER

  • @danster64
    @danster64 6 месяцев назад

    as a viewer i always want to watch pm but i legit don't know how to find out about the shadow majors

  • @Xx_GobbaGamer69_xX
    @Xx_GobbaGamer69_xX 6 месяцев назад

    Its kinda crazy to think that nintendos own fans have to hide from them

  • @nathanielcarrillo514
    @nathanielcarrillo514 6 месяцев назад

    good movie

  • @gooeyghoblini
    @gooeyghoblini 6 месяцев назад

    project M shadow? is A7x in on this?

  • @Strong_Badam
    @Strong_Badam 6 месяцев назад +1

    wow Project M rules

    • @Darkgun163
      @Darkgun163 6 месяцев назад

      100%

    • @BronzeAgePepper
      @BronzeAgePepper 5 месяцев назад

      your mod is DEAD and your community gatekeepers HATE YOU (they'd rather keep a soulless corporation happy than run events they don't approve of)
      but that's okay because P+ exists and the real homies will keep playing it

  • @HairyBeast297
    @HairyBeast297 6 месяцев назад

    PM is siiiiiiiiiick

  • @ojgimpson
    @ojgimpson 6 месяцев назад

    Does GOML have a pm shadow major?

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад

      I don't recall hearing about one, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if there was. You might need to ask the local PM scene about it.

    • @vwtdi1579
      @vwtdi1579 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@atWisely
      PM will die because of this. The general nonlocal scene won't know of a tournament due to the noodle spines of melee TOs

  • @calebrobinson6406
    @calebrobinson6406 6 месяцев назад +2

    #FuckNintendo 🥲

  • @danytalksmusic
    @danytalksmusic 4 месяца назад

    The Game Nintendo TRIED To Kill... BUT COULDN'T!

  • @pantsoverp8849
    @pantsoverp8849 6 месяцев назад +1

    why you gotta show Nogh lose twice in the beginning
    lol

    • @atWisely
      @atWisely  6 месяцев назад

      He went to so many shadow majors and did well enough to always play the winners. I actually had to edit it so he wasn't losing in even more clips 😭