True Detective Night Country Ending Explained Episode 6 Recap & Review
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- True Detective Night Country Episode 6 Breakdown. In-depth recap and review for True Detective Season 4 - S04E06 “Part 6” with the ending explained. Please Subscribe 👉 ruclips.net/user/petepeppers...
In the season finale of the fourth season of True Detective, Police Chief Liz Danvers (Jodie Foster) and Evangeline Navarro (Kali Reis) finally get answers about what happened to the Tsalal scientists and Annie Kowtowk.
S4.E6
Part 6
When night falls in Ennis, Alaska, the eight men who operate the Tsalal Arctic Research Station vanish without a trace; to solve the case, detectives Danvers and Navarro will have to confront the darkness they carry in themselves.
Written By: Issa López
Directed By: Issa López
Episode aired Jan 28, 2024
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Logline: When the long winter night falls in Ennis, Alaska, the eight men who operate the Tsalal Arctic Research Station vanish without a trace. To solve the case, Detectives Liz Danvers (Foster) and Evangeline Navarro (Reis) will have to confront the darkness they carry in themselves, and dig into the haunted truths that lie buried under the eternal ice.
Cast: Jodie Foster, Kali Reis, Finn Bennett, Fiona Shaw, with Christopher Eccleston, Isabella Star LaBlanc, and John Hawkes. Guest stars: Anna Lambe, Aka Niviâna, June Thiele, Diane Benson, and Joel D. Montgrand.
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I agree, I don’t think Navarro walked on to the sea. She finally got what she wanted most, her name. She packed up her house. People don’t pack up their houses if they are not going to use their stuff any more.
Pete, do you like the sound of your own voice, or do you just like to talk a lot?
Why did they torture Clark by making him listen to Annie's death? They had no idea that he smothered Annie at the end. He was just a witness as far as they were concerned.
They walk like 50 feet under the ice and they end up under Tsalal and they didn't notice how close they were to it to begin with?
Maybe it was too dark to see it 😂
How did hank get Annie up the ladder? Why bother? If they just leave her in the ice caves the show probably doesn’t happen lol.
Why didn’t Danvers shoot the glass?
They didn’t ever really explain the falling out between Danvers and Navarro
Wasn’t it bc they found the star shaped drill and assumed he offed Annie with it since he was the only one still alive and I’m hiding. That’s what I took from it.
@@HeatherHolt yes thats what I thought.
"A little on the woo side" is a great description that applies to the entire series. I'm not complaining, though. I'm a little bit "woo" myself...
Great job, Pete! Loved your breakdowns, as usual.
Wooo! 😛
I enjoy your episode reviews far more than any of the others that rush to release a video as soon after the episode airs as possible.
Your reviews go into much greater detail and you have much better insights than anyone else.
I really appreciate your work, Pete. I know it must take a lot of time to create your content.
True. PP insight is tremendous and always helps me go deeper into appreciation of the television show or film. Superior!
Same here.
I really dont wan't to be a hater but I did not enjoy this season. While the initial mystery was enough to hook me, there was simply just too much wrong with the tone of this season for me to get attatched to the characters. Every character in this series either is so grumpy and angry with eachother all the time or cracking jokes and making fun of eachother which was really annoying, combined with the fact that The story itself doesn't resolve which doesn't help either. Usually I'm good at extrapolating meaning from TV shows like this but Night Country left me confused. Definitely felt half baked, and the mysterious tone of true detective was completely absent. I feel like a 10 episode run with a more fleshing-out of the dozens of characters they wrote for nothing would definitely help.
Great recap Pete ! Regarding Annie's tongue, I have the same view as a written recap elsewhere covered.
After Annie was killed the scientists called the mine and Kate dispatches hired hand Hank, who removes the body, dumps it, kicks Annie viscously and cuts out her tongue leaving it beside the body as a warning to others to keep quiet.
Jump back 7 years, although Navarro is first LE on scene, she did *not* discover the body, that was done by the local Inupiat women. we see later. They can't hide her body, but they *can* take her tongue as an act of love/safekeeping.
Jump back again to modern day and when the local women storm Tsalal and deliver the scientists to the judgement of Sedna, it is *they* who leave the tongue at Tsalal (they had it all along) this is a sign BACK to the powers that be in the town that Annie will NOT be silenced and via this act, she has regained her voice.
My 02 ... YMMV
Gross! The cleaning lady had the tongue in her freezer by the frozen peas all that time?! 😄
Freezing your murdered friend’s severed body parts, hiding critical DNA evidence from the police that could help solve the murder, is an “act of love and compassion”? You’re really trying wayyy too hard to explain poor writing lol
That's abysmal writing and terrible character motivation.
Oh yes because had they of given that to the corrupt local police it would have made ALL the difference. Dido you even watch the show ?@@2AoDqqLTU5v There IS no official justice for these locals. (As in real life)
So ? @@TheVisitors44
I dont think Navarro died, she moved to another remote part of Alaska, hence why she has been sighted at times, and hence why Danvers and her stepdaughter went on a car trip to visit her at her new home.🤷🏾♀️
that was my takeaway as well
I sort of love my own head canon of her becoming a MMIW « vigilante » … I would love a graphic novel or second series following this narrative thread. ❤
This show could have used another two episodes, such a let down after really good beginning of the season
I agree we were robbed of the 2 additional episodes, but it was still really good and worth watching.
This show coulda used two fewer episodes
So many unanswered questions. Annies tongue, the polar bear, why didn't Navarro just tell Danvers she got the confession from Clark? Why did Danvers leave Pete to clean up body in her own house? (there was a freaking snow storm that night, why didn't all 3 stay behind to clean up then go to the cave the next day?) why was Navarro bleeding from her ears and sitting by a Christmas tree? why did Navarro and Danvers really fall out for years if Danvers says she was going to kill Wheeler anyway? How in the world did the underground ice tunnel lead to Tsalal (There was no point of refrence to show they were in the same vicinity) Finally what the hell happened to Oliver Taggaq? Why did he fold his clothes and leave the spiral when he didnt even know the scientist were dead, not to mention how they died and the detail of their clothes left neatly folded?
I was left with more questions than anything 6/10.
And, in the opening shot of episode 1, what's up with all of the caribou leaping off of the "cliff?" when the sun was setting for what was supposed to be the last time before the "dark time?"
Oliver was an engineer for the scientists, he’s the one who cut the power for the women.
@@Jantonvid I will watch again, I must’ve missed it.
@@princedavid88 they don’t spell it out but I think we can put two and two together. it stands to reason that they would have met Oliver if he was working there also so they probably looked him up and asked him to help. At the very least he could have told them how to shut the facility down.
@@dianegreyson8787you’re right, he left before Annie’s death but when Danvers and Navarro meet him concerning the scientists he seemed genuinely shocked that they were dead. The second time Navarro and Prior went to see him he had left his jacket, boots, gun and there were spirals in this cabin . I’m not saying that it’s not plausible that Oliver feigned ignorance to help cover the plot but the show implies that it was the Women who took revenge (we see as much in their recounting of events) if Oliver was involved in the death of the scientists why not involve Annie’s brother or any other Native Man. Seems to me that Oliver’s disappearance was a plot hole, so much of a plot hole he walked out on the ice. RIP Oliver Taggaq.
Thank you for keeping the videos through this season relatively sane and level-headed! *cough* other channels *cough*
Did you see the girl in the background when Navarro was trying to get the lights back on?
Great review I enjoyed having a Sunday night on HBO again. God I miss Succession!!!
Same. Kendall at the end still breaks me. I’ve never been so annoyed by someone while also wanting to see them succeed so badly. No pun intended.
Thanks Pete. This was the best recap of this show I’ve found. Appreciate your balanced input.
I was having fun with this season until the end of episode 4 and then the yadayadayada about it at the very beginning of episode 5, like that wasn't a thing. You can't present it as a thing and then ignore it. I don't have trouble with the show other than it got too cute in places, didn't explain some things well enough, and then set other things up for no reason. I struggle most with the tongue and can only put it down to super natural. I don't mind shows that leave things to open endings but they didn't explain Navarro as a character well enough to earn the right to leave her ending open. For the record,, I thought she died and that was her spirit on the deck.
From the isolated winter place on Native land, to the visions, ghosts, oranges rolling out from nowhere, time not being linear, to the corpsicle - we either have to accept that Ennis is just like the Overlook Hotel, or that Lopez copied many ideas from Kubrick and King in The Shining.
Thanks for you're coverage of the season Pete, look forward to what you have lined up next.
Annie's tongue was most likely in Clark's possession as a remembrance. It was found on the general area where he had his seizure. He lied about not having a hand in killing Annie so he could have easily lied about not cutting off her tongue. He kept her phone and didn't get rid of the mobile trailer of kooky stuff when it would have directly tied him to the murder. He even got the spiral tattoo like Annie after her murder so we know he had a hard time letting go. My big issue with the end is the cleaning lady mafia. One of them finds a room with a star shaped implement and instantly jumps to the conclusion that all the men are guilty? They didn't even finish the job. Three fingered lady knew one guy was holding the hatch but didn't return and they acted all smug about the act. Then let "Annie or Sedna" decide their fate but also conveniently had dozens of guns pointed at the scientists so why would they come back to get their clothes?? Such sloppy writing is a disgrace.
I was eagerly waiting for you to deconstruct this. Thank you.
Excellent and insightful breakdown. Thank you for shedding light on many confusing plot points.
IMO the scientists were using the tongue to conduct experiments. They mentioned that it had a strange residue when the dna results came back and it left that weird residue on the floor in the last episode. I think they were doing experiments with it when the women attacked and it got dropped in the fracus, or (waves arms around) magic.
Gotta love how they gave no resolution to half the characters set up. The references to Season 1 were clearly shoehorned in for views and had zero impact on the plot.
How HBO allowed this mess to make it to air is befuddling.
@@poopsmcgee2k6 because it was created by a woman and was a story about indigenous women getting revenge on the "evil white men" poisoning their land. that's how.
@@poopsmcgee2k6this season shows me I could write just as good as an HBO writer I just don't have the connections 😂
Danvers may be the biggest asshole in tv history.
the references to Season 1 absolutely did not feel shoehorned in. to me they felt very embedded in S4’s narrative. also, while i think it should’ve been 8 episodes, which would’ve allowed them to flesh out certain storylines/relationships a bit more, needing most or all loose ends tied up, needing every character to have a resolution, is a little absurd. like, they wrapped up nearly all the most important characters’ stories. it wasn’t Twin Peaks: The Return, which dared to withhold closure from literally every character (and it worked!). it’s not a cop out. literally some threads are best left hanging. and for me, it makes a rewatch all that more enjoyable. i don’t want a show, particularly a surrealist crime drama, to play its whole hand.
There's a good interview with Lopez on Deadline. Pete's pretty much on the money with what she was going for.
I agree this would have been better if it was not shoe-horned into the True Detective universe. Seems like dropping the spiral stuff would have made 6 episodes feel about right.
I will never understand why they do that. It makes no sense, and is ALWAYS to the detriment of an excellent story, with excellent actors 🤦♀️
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I read that HBO wanted a connection to TD.
@@ceciliaSF-TX Yeah, they also wanted more episodes according to the Deadline interview. Kinda a shame but I guess it got more notice than it would have on Netflix as a stand alone.
No True Detective name, no views. Jodie Foster or not.
Pete...love love love all your videos and deep dives, ultra keen analysis. However, on Night Country: yes ,six episode too few, however, I was really craving more concrete and connected clues in Episodes 4 and 5 and was getting impatient. I love the supernatural elements and the freaky "frozen tableau" --- the tongue, clearly and simply a metaphor for the victims, the indigenous women having no voice and having their voices drowned out, suffocated. I feel the acting was SUPERB and carried a very difficult and often convoluted mystery and story. Jodi Foster made this story possible, I can't even imagine this story without Jodi Foster as lead...only other possible actor to play Danvers would be Francies McDormand to carry this type of role...Kali Reis as Navarro? No other choice for the perfect actor. I believe it is important to remember the story and structure is being ANIMATED by the ACTORS who bring the meaning. I feel perhaps, with True Detective, so much of the weight is on the actors to make us "believe." ... Over all we love all your videos, and, as always and your level of detail is unmatched!!!! Great work---just don't forget the craft of acting - also. It tasks both.
Excellent review. Well spoken. Solid audio btw.
Pretty sure the studio forced all the season one connections in the show but Lopez can’t go around blaring that if she wants more work.
Read an article it was supposed it be its own entity and not part of True Detective.
Take all the forced connections out and it’s much better viewing.
Actually would’ve been a nice follow up to “The Outsider” series.
Kind of the same supernatural vs reality theme.
It wouldn't be a good movie- too much good stuff would be lost. It would have been better in 8 episodes just because the oldest story of light vs dark is fascinating. This was a great addition to the 4 very interesting seasons. I absolutely loved this exchange between Rust and Marty at the end of Season 1. In the end of Season 4 the Women did not exchange words but the same idea that the light is winning was clearly conveyed... brilliant!
Thank you, Pete! I enjoyed all of your Night Country videos! I liked that you are saying Navarro didn't die and the reasons she didn't... I think you have the best take on that...I watched some that say she died and I don't like that ending! I think you are right... her journey points more towards coming to terms with her demons and living on! Thank you!
I thought the last two episodes were really, really, really disappointing and poorly written (acted well though at least). I loved (LOVED) episodes 1 and 2, but already at 3 I started to have concerns. The 6 episodes run wasn't enough clearly. Too many plot holes or things they never came back to:
1- What about all the elk in the very first scene of episode 1 that leapt off the cliff?
2- Why put the spiral, the Tuttle family, Travis Cohle, what's inside Clark's trailer (the bones and stuff) and all the other season 1 references and do nothing with them? If you take them all out of the season, it wouldn't change anything since they didn't add none. I thought it was a cheap device to make people guess and come back every week.
3- The way Annie dies in the finale versus what they saw on her cell phone was completely different.
4- They never came back on the ending of episode 4 when Danvers found Navarro sitting on the floor, in a trance, with her ears bleeding.
5- They never came back to Navarro's vision of the dead soldier.
6- Danvers and Navarro are stuck at Tsalal because of the storm but Peter can drive everywhere no problem? lol They also have access to Tsalal trucks and stuff.
7- Why Rose is so ok with dropping bodies? lol
8- So I guess Navarro finally ends her life and come back as a ghost?
The list goes on as I have many more issues with the season overall as a whole. They spent way too much time opening storylines, on mysteries (was it all supernatural or realistic) without ever really closing them and most of the characters, albeit well acted, were shown only on the surface. We never got to really know them that well since we only got a general idea of who they were. And since they spent so much time on the ''horror'' aspect, in the end, there was nothing supernatural about it really so there's no rewatchability, in the sense that since we know the magic trick (and it was a realistic one), the horror/tension scenes won't work well cause our brain knows now that there's nothing to be scared of. I'll probably never watch it again.
So you kinda maybe not sure liked it?
I enjoyed it a lot more than you, but your comment has excellent points. Should have been it's own thing, and allowed to stretch its legs a bit more.
Another question - what was the significance of the song "Twist and Shout" being played several times and upsetting Danvers so much.
@@itsbigcliff5178 I loved the first two episodes, then liked 3-4 with some concerns and I really really disliked 5-6 because it fell off the rails.
@@RealBradMiller 100%! Everything felt rushed by the last 2 episodes imho.
Great as always, thanks Pete
I enjoy your work,Pete.
I wish that I could subscribe to you 1000 more times. So good.
I don't think it's that strange that all the women were at Bee's home, it was New Year's Day so they probably got together for New Year's Eve and then stayed the night since there was a storm. (you could see there were balloons in the house, so there must have been a celebration)
They were coming out of the woodwork lol I was laughing like that house is so small where are all these women coming from! Grouping up like a tough gang when they all look so sweet. It was funny. But alright for the story.
This season started out strong for me but ended up being weak. I'll give it a 6 out of 10. I even loved S2 more than this one. But thanks Pete, you clear up a few points for me. Much appreciated.
Seasons 2 and 3 struk me very different at different times in life. S2 pissed me off the first time I tried to watch but the second it felt great. Just saying maybe give it another try sometime. At least the writing is good, this season has at least 30 holes
Oh I know you're lying 😂
Agreed.
@@glacialimpalawhat “holes” are you missing?
@@debbieebbiebobebbie I don't have a list, it's just a ton of comments here and on Reddit by people who noticed different stuff, there was a lot.
Clark had snow on his jacket when he said "she's awake.' I think he saw one of the local women coming out of the night with a gun and assumed it was Annie in his guilt ridden trauma psych0sis thing.
Well, Clark was also seeing her ghost, and she very well could just make anyone look like herself to drive him crazy.
So why the shaking and electronic noises? Also, why would twist and shout be playing on a loop either time?
Or it was Sedna
These things are all so loosely connected that one could make that Danvers was just having a bad nightmare and everything was made up. She didn't even live in Enis. Its just so bad for a True Detective show. Another series, maybe it would have played out and I could have just tuned out, instead, I was sure that a TD series would bring something together that was on par with the previous seasons. Instead I got a turd sandwich and then since I didnt like it got called misogynist, racist, sexist, janitorphobia and just another one of the "bros." its a culture war at this point, but the show still sucks, so let the chips fall where they may and for what its worth, I'm still a Jodie Foster fan. @@marklachney420
@@marklachney420why was twist and shout stuck on a loop again when they went back to tsalal station when liz broke/dismantled the dvd player the first time they where there when the song was playing looped
Thanks for the breakdown!
Great balanced video Pete, as always, thank you. I thoroughly enjoyed this season, but agree that they short changed so much by cutting it to 6 episodes only. Great acting, cinematography & directing. They answered a lot of questions scientifically and left a lot of super natural interpretations to individual perception. That works for me, just felt rushed.
Been waiting for this. Love your breakdowns and I am on the same page, I enjoyed it, didn't love nor hate it. I agree there was too much superfluous stuff stuck in that was supposed to be left up to your interpretation. Like the baby crying after they shot Wheeler, and never mentioned again. Liz never mentioned the loss of her husband, only seemed to care about her son. What happened in the accident? Why Twist and shout? You mentioned a few more, and altho some stuff that makes you wonder and draw your own conclusions is ok, but that was a bit of overkill.
Didn’t you think the baby crying was revealed so late because it was Holden? Hear me out, the timeline didn’t really match a woman of Danvers age having such a young son. What if she took the baby and claimed him as her own? That’s why twist & shout haunted her on multiple occasions. It was tied to the initial scandal of her stealing him from a crime scene that two cops killed a killer and covered it up??
@@chrstylemoma I've heard that mentioned before as a possibility, and I wondered the same, but the timeline didn't match up. She wouldn't have been playing twist and shout with Holden if his killer dad taunted with it. I think I remember the Wheeler incident was about 6 years ago from present timeline, which meant the accident killing Holden and husband was more recent. It was a weird addition that didn't need to be there.
Excellent point and insight about continuation of light/dark - I missed that aspect!
Have enjoyed watching all your videos on True detective season 4. It was quite the journey and I am glad I got to share it with you.
They never mentioned Sedna in the show. Maybe people from Alaska know Sedna, but most of us would only know about her if we watched RUclips videos on the show.
They didn't mention her by name but Darwin drew a picture in the first episode and it was explained it was a local legend
@@Sanne78 It was explained the picture was a local legend, but the legend itself was never elaborated upon. Even if you knew who Sedna was, you’d need to pause things to see the detail in the picture to identify it was Sedna. And none of that was ever mentioned again after that scene in the first episode.
Keep up the good work!
Biggest complaint is definitely how Evangeline and her sister were handled…”if you have mental illness, you’ll probably kill yourself-even if your name means “Sun returning from darkness”” is clearly not the message they would’ve wanted to send but idk.
I love your videos, well thought out but not overly negative.
I thought it was good. I didn't see Navarro dying at the end. She had to get away from the police department, because it often put her at odds with other Inupiaq people (also she murdered a guy). Maybe she went soul searching in the wilderness. Whatever it was, Danvers told her interviewers "you won't find her out on the ice" because she is NOT dead
I loved the whole season ! Jodie foster is great !
I like Jodie Foster. Everything else was B.S. (Nothing but Ugly Dog Faced Feminists Pablum) Nothing wrapped in a nothing enigma sandwich🥪 Worst season yet.
Foster should have fired the director and rewritten the script. Oh yeah, and DUMP the pointless Easter eggs.
Yep, it was fantastic!
@@lisaroberts8556what about it was “feminism”?
@@debbieebbiebobebbie You didn’t see the Dog Faced Ladies. Needed to save the Town. From the Evil Men and their weird experiment? 👀
This should have been a 90 minute Netflix movie
*tubi
True community worker
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Wish I could like this comment twice 😂
Bad Police Chronicles: One Night in Ennis
I don't know if anyone touched on this: What happened to the child crying at the scene of William Wheeler? Are we to make the connection that Liz Danvers adopted the child out of guilt who grew up to be Leah Danvers?
No. The child probably went into the system. I don’t think it was meant to be important so much as it was to show another tragic layer to a fucked up situation.
Okay, I commented on someone’s comment above. I think it could have been Holden.
I thought Annie K's tongue being at the scene of the corpsicle stand was a threat from the bad guys of what happens when you talk about their business. But in the end the truth of her tongues presence was symbolic that She had something to say about it - yes the dark has a lot of territory, the spiraling time continuum has always been there too- but the light is winning! Awesome series ❤
Pete your content here is far better than the subject matter
Agreed, 8 episodes would have supported this story so much better.
It makes me sad that the reason we couldn't have more episodes is money; paying for these particular actors over time to develop the story.
Great job. I don’t think Navarro died. I think she knew there would be some pissed off people bc mine would be closing and just laid low. And that shot at the end was her visiting her friend. Thought the show was great but wanted a cliffhanger for TDS5.
I heard someone say maybe Danvers was visiting Navarro wherever she went.
Too bad a gigantic Wendigo didn't emerge from the ice to eat both of them.
Too many things didn't add up, too much misdirect and contradicted itself
I really enjoy your videos and your insights are always well thought out and on point. Bee says, that’s not part of our story but then she says with a smirk, I don’t know what you are talking about, which is something you say when you do know what they are talking about. I think the scientists removed Annie’s tongue, Bee finds and takes it when she searches the hatch and later leave it behind to connect Annie to the scientists.
The Ocean’s 11 scene of the girls rounding up the scientist was absolutely ridiculous.
I don’t know if you can beat season 1 but for me, it’s close with this season. I do wish there were 2 more episodes to wrap things up and answer some questions that people need to have answered.
I have spent a lot of time in Alaska exploring native grounds (with permission) and it’s very spiritual. I never saw ghosts but I expected to! A town like Ennis would have lots of spiritual encounters when it’s covered in darkness for long periods of time.
I enjoyed the female empowerment theme of this season, 2 solid female leads and a female director. So when it was revealed that a Rosie the Riveter type group of women took things into their own hands, I was pumped to see this conclusion!
I commented on some threads above but will add it here too. Could the baby crying possibly be Holden? Hear me out, the timeline didn’t really match a woman of Danvers age having such a young son. What if she took the baby and claimed him as her own? That’s why twist & shout haunted her on multiple occasions. It was tied to the initial scandal of her stealing him from a crime scene that two cops killed a killer and covered it up??
Not gonna lie, although I really enjoyed night country as a whole I felt a little cheated with the final episode. I think they could’ve leaned more to the supernatural being a possibility. I also didn’t believe that seven scientist just all of a sudden started stabbing a woman because they destroyed her work that’s not realistic at all they could’ve done that a little bit differently, but it was still worth watching and definitely better than season two, which was a disaster and season three which was OK but just wasn’t as strong, Jodi Foster, and the actress that played Navarro really nailed it, and of course loved Rose
After hearing Clark mention how time is on a flat loop, I instantly thought there had to be some time travel/parallel universe at play because of the fresh tongue at the scene which later Davers see’s some frozen residue from. Also the playing of twist and shout again when she clearly ripped it all out in the first episode.
Cool review. I was disappointed there was an alternative explanation to a paranormal one. Fiona Shaw was fantastic as always - there was so much weight in seemingly throwaway lines
I loved this show. Yes there were some sillies, like their not noticing the cave area was right next to the lab (hey wait what's that building there) but overall it was scares and fun and for me an overall blast. I heard someone mention that Danvers was visiting Navarro at the end versus the other way around.
I enjoyed this season, it was the best since the first. Jodi Foster did her thing, and Kali Reis as Navarro was great.
I never thought for a second that Navarro was dead, she had just become one with her powers. Why would she kill herself now, or why would the night country even take her, now that the sun is back from the long night...
This is off topic... Will you be covering Constellation? It seems promising to be a good show and right up your alley.
I'm a softy. I wanted to see Navarro and Qaavik together at the end.
I loved this movie.
I wanted more cosmic horror and less rational explanations in the ending, but it was pretty good over all, no where near season 1.
What was rationale about the end? The murderer was a ghost lol
I wanna know how Navarro sister folded her clothes the same way as the scientists were if their deaths weren't related. That's 1 of 3 dozen plot holes I've got so far
Just as in the Wheeler case, nothing was done until after the woman had died. The women of Ennis knew nothing would be done about Annie's murder, the deaths of the babies or the contaminated water. So, they took matters into their own hands. -Sending the scientists out on the tundra was a 'Let the Goddess sort them out' moment. I'm not very familiar with the effects of a slab avalanche, but if they simply froze to death, they would not be in positions of motion as they were found. -Man thinks he's in control of everything. Until Mother Nature 'Sedna' proves them otherwise. The scientists were beyond angry to see that their years of work was destroyed, that they would not 'save the world' and receive all the glory for doing so. They did not care that there were already casualties in their wake, so what would another matter? After six years they seemed quite happy in their safe space, going on with their research, watching movies, making photo-worthy sandwiches, until that fateful moment of 'She's Awake' arrived. I don't know why I'm still surprised, when women lead an attack on horrible men, they're viewed as silly or worse, the villains. Annie was considered a cold case, a file in a box. The stillborn babies were considered calateral damage paving the way for the rich to live longer and healthier.
They had no idea who was responsible for her death and just sentenced them all to death. This was stupid
I loved this season. But the one thing I didn’t like is Navarro’s ending. When you listen to the accompanying podcasts. It’s about putting indigenous women in the spotlight and empowering them. When I’m reality they are invisible, who go missing or get murdered 60% more than any other population. The indigenous women giving Justice not only to Annie K but for all of those missing and murdered women is powerful. The actresses said it was empowering to play such a role. In the very first podcast they mentioned the importance of making Navarro’s character strong, and powerful role. So why have her walk into the ice and have an ambiguous ending. I wish the podcast explained this. She just learned her name. She finally established a bond with women of her community after feeling like an outsider all her life. I think Issa López did this intentionally with a message, that is making a powerful point in line with her main theme. I would think she would want us to know it, right? My best guess is her getting the audience to ask. Why did she have to die, so that we ask the bigger question why are we not disturbed that indigenous women are murdered or go missing at really an epidemic rate? Why is nothing being done? Which is a great message, a great question. But how many people are going to get it? At least explain in the podcast. Other than that I think it was great. Maybe more loose ends than I would prefer. But still I enjoyed it
Holly shiznit..
I don't like how she was supposed to be the light, and we are left with her ending being ambiguous either.
I really enjoyed this series I liked the actors and I enjoyed the location where they filmed this. I do agree that it would have benefited from several more episodes and also the Navarro ending was a bit too vague.
Hey Pete, I think you should try out this new sci-fi show, Constellation. It started off quite strong. it's got a great mystery, cool visuals and nice acting as well
@PetePeppers are you gonna do SHOGUN? Waiting for it!
I have finally come to terms with the fact that season one will forever remain uncontested, undefeated, and forever a work of art that cannot be replicated without either actors. Much of the community excitement for this season was solely based on season one, and without the exact formula of director, writer, and actors we can never truly be satisfied. So in the end finishing the series with this is as good as we can get.
Hi. I have a list of 12 important plot holes from season 4. Do you mind explaining some of them?
Read this comment somewhere else, but how come the native female squad got a hold of case file photos at the precinct when hank had the entire annie k file at home?
Well, at least I learned something from this season.
If I ever see any show produced, directed or written by Issa López, I'll skip it.
Homicidal scientists, Frozen solid bodies coming back to life, Dancing ghosts, Improbable NBC Mystery Movie ending were a bit much for me.
Nice
I really loved the whole season. I like your breakdowns.
This is the best season of the show for me. Emotionally mature and adult.
I agree. I wish Lopez had said no when HBO asked for season one connections. The season one fanboys have been insufferable.
@@NinaPB never knew how toxic and awful they were till this season started airing
Totally, I think the torture scene of the witness helps bring True Detective into a more emotionally mature landscape.
Agreed, I absolutely adored this season. It definitely took the most detective work to figure out the lore and piece together the multiple clues. Fantastic!
More than one?? Wow. To each their own. It’s def better than 2&3 tho!
Get ready for the spinoff that's only 8 hrs of the corpsicle thawing
Nothing but dead ends and story lines that wriggle off into the snow. Nothing makes sense.
First three episodes I thought were pretty good. The next three were just them writing themselves into a bunch of corners and didn’t bother to really resolve anything at all.
How the hell did Hank carry Annie up the ladder? Why bother?
Why didn’t Danvers shoot the glass?
And a couple dozen more questions.
I have to disagree about the women's confession/story scene. I thought it was far more powerful with all the other women in the room. It showed what true power is, a collective. I also thought the contrast of most of the women who were present during the birth were also there at the revenge against the scientists being an interesting comparison. Together, they can bring you into this world and they can take you out of it.
It also seemed to show that when Indigenous women are together, they are safer. All the Indigenous women who died on the show did so alone. Annie, Julia were alone. And to a lesser extent, when Leah was left by her girlfriend, that was when she was beaten by police.
It reminds me of the fact that so many genocidal strategies used against Indigenous people often feature an aspect of separation. To be separate is to be vulnerable. But to be together is to be a force to be reckoned with.
I finally finished this season last night and I must say I really enjoyed it. However I've gotta say, these kinds of endings drives me insane. An ending to a show/movie that forces the viewer to search for 'ending explained' videos are frustrating.
The part where he yells "Time is a flat circle" was the worst part at an attempt to do a call back, this season was garbage, 95% on rotten tomatoes, while season 1 has an 84%..........lmao, another thing soooo tge locals polluted tgier own community and thier own families? Isnt it the community tgat works in the mine?
Like why would he repeat word for work Rusts acid casualty ranting
I also like your breakdowns and are usually right on the money. I am still undecided as to my feelings about Pt 4 of the series. I liked it but there were too many loose ends and unexplained things. 1- why even bother with the repeated call back to season 1 with absolutely no payoff or explanation. It's like they were trying to suck us in with the red herrings but no resolution. 2- what was the mine even mining and what was causing the pollution? 3- how did Otis survive so long? 4- Is Navarro dead or alive? I am tired of lazy showrunners copping out to "It's up to you to decide" Bullshit!! 5- I agree it was too short and at least 2 more episodes would have helped to flesh some of this out. I did like it and Jodi Foster was great as were the supporting cast but it could have been sooo much better. Season 1 is still my fave followed by S3 and this season.
They tried to do too much with too few episodes.,
Thanks, good summary.
Constellation next?
Ok, now that that disaster is over. Please do videos on Constellation. It's pretty good, and it would lend well to your explainer style.
I go to Ice Cave. Far from APF jurisdiction, and the Natives will not extradite one of their own.
season 4 would have been a lot better if they didn't try making connections with season 1 with Tuttle owning the mine and research facility also Time is a flat circle and thr swirl thing .. if those were not on the show, the ending would have been alot better
I was expecting a child sex dungeons I'm the ice caves. A few Tutle family members in animal masks something .. that's why the ending was big disappointment. If none of the connections to season 1 were in season 4, it would have been a lot better endung IMO
Exactly!
18:30 yep
The more I try to breakdown this show the more frustrated I get 😒
There is just too too many unanswered questions. Ghosts that aren't ghosts, signs that doesn't really mean anything, clues that lead to nowhere, links to the 1st season that played no part in this season. Navarro was my favorite character and I honestly didn't mind the open ended ending. I would like to think she is alive since she went through all she did and got her name and is more confident in who she is and where she belongs.
But as for the rest of the show I wish they had given us more answers
I loved it, and find the people who hate it likely use the word woke as a pejorative. 😅👍✨
The whole premise of the story relies upon a mystery substance that is supposed to change the world. Since we never learn why the substance is so important, the stakes end up being really low. Underwhelming ending to a season that had potential.
BTW when they first entered and felt something I thought it might have been the draft of another entrance creating a chimney effect.
I hate that this had to have the true detective name…this was a mess. The show baited us with nostalgia. The spiral had NOTHING to do with season 1…which was such a miss. Wtf was the creature spiral thing in the lab?!?!? What the deal with the tongue!??
“She’s awake” what a ridiculous statement that tried to hint at something mysterious and chilling…but no it was just some lame plot element that was force fed and make 0 sense. Why the hell would the scientist adopt this ridiculous statement?! They wouldn’t, but this is what you get with lazy ass writing
Are you gonna cover Constellation?
I can’t begin to go into detail how awful the season was. I feel bad for saying that because I love Jodie Foster. Way too many storylines with little to no interest in any of them.
Was that house at the end Danvers? I thought it was like a lake house or something.
This was a really poor finale that made little sense.
Abysmal season; horrible writing. Five year wait for this season and we get this crap.