Realistically still depends on what the paying customer did to get banned. However, I am not sure a good chunk of what these people are being blocked for warrants a block not to mention they are blocked from accessing Godot tools from GitHub. This would be like McDonalds community manager on X blocking Franchisees from accessing their building premise.
So annoying that this is the type of shit alot of us have been pointing out for YEARS. This is just one of the biggest examples. I dont understand how they are able to keep on doing it and not just get fired.
@@whisper4379they also don't have loads of other shoes that will call people and explain that you're a bigot and convince people never to work with you, completely destroying your career.
the connection between hair dye and SJW-ism needs to be researched. its way too common for it to be a coincidence, there is definitely some sort of underlying psychiatric commonality.
I know it makes sense, but it is still staggering how positions of power are sought primarily by those who want to abuse it. It’s equally shocking how they never seem to be called out for it by their peers within their team despite the ever apparent absurdity of their actions. It’s similar in a way to the police investigating themselves and finding nothing wrong.
Your sexual preference should never leave the bedroom. And yet these people make it their entire personality and then claim they are accepting but are intolerant towards any other ideas except theirs Also you can’t show us your room and expect us to not think you smell bro
God fucking damn it. Godot is pretty much the only consumer friendly game engine that exists on the market and these bastards have to try and ruin the brand as quickly as possible.
People should keep learning it, keep working projects with it. Someone will fork it and put it in the hands of people who aren't ideologues and all will be fine.
Fortunately it's impossible to completely ruin it, that's the beauty of FOSS. If people are unhappy with the Godot Foundation, you can always just make a fork of the program and take it whatever path you want Though of course, having an "official" group taking care of a FOSS project tends to be better. Since they can get funding for hiring permanent devs and most community PRs, plugins, assets, tutorials, etc, will be made for the official versions (even if a lot of it might be compatible with some forks)
I was a community manager for 2 small companies, my job was both in discord and twitter. I learned from the best CMs on how to behave, be approachable, answer any questions, but also be firm about the rules in a not obnoxious way. You're both the friend of the community and the representative of the company, because in a way you represent both sides, by letting the devs know what the people are saying. To see other CMs go rogue like that makes me want to vomit.
I've heard that the CMs of larger communities have a kind of whisper network that they use for gatekeeping, which would explain why they all seem to have the same political views. Not sure how much truth there is to that, though.
I've been a mod and managed a page before. One thing I've learned is unless you are going for freedom of speech, you need to ban wokeness or your group will be infested with it. The one time people didn't believe me, long story, the group fell within a week and the head admin apologized for what happened and admitted I was right. These people need to be gatekept out. Before Nichegamer had all their drama (no idea what happened other than a falling out) i knew one of their mods was a Marxists. These people cannot help but let the mask slip in defense of their cult.
The Sweet Baby Inc types “burning the games industry to the ground” campaign seems to be working in an off handed sort of way… however I don’t think the phoenix that rises from those ashes will look like what they imagined in their utopic vision.
Kirsche has been digging into this stuff over the course of this year. DEI's not really going away just yet. They might be getting rid of the departments, but that's because their next approach is to make it mandatory corporate culture for everyone. Hopefully that's not what'll happen, but only time will tell.
The "Long March Through The Institutions" continues day by day, and this is how they do it. They worm their way into positions of authority, especially in regards to gatekeeping, then they shut out anyone that doesn't pledge allegiance to their ideology.
It's kinda funny that the person tries to state that their sexuality somehow has anything to do with it, obnoxious people will be obnoxious no matter what their 'gender''sexuality''interests/hobbies' are.
Asmon, do you remember in like early 2000s 2010s, companies started employing more diverse people because they would be called out for not employing women/minority and then they all started employing them as "token" just to fill out the quota. Well, to me at least, this looks like a remnant of that time. Companies are afraid to let them go because they would immediatelly go bonkers and sue the employer. 80k a year is cheaper than bad press/publicity. And it will just spiral out until investors start losing money. This is my 2 cents about this whole bollox.
That definitely sounds accurate given large entities move slow and measure cause and effect by years and decades. However, the second best time to correct is now, and its not when the equally disconnected investors find out their losing money.
@@TheNapster153 yes, they should change it now but they are behemoths. Like watching Ents from Lotr in the scene where Pippin and Merry try to to reason with them during the Entmoot and they need ages to do anything. Edit: they only speak language of money. As long as bottom line is giving them profits, they dont care. WELL, WE FCKING CARE and thank god/whatever Asmongold has large audience and can make an impact.
In a nutshell yeah, but this is the end result of having quotas etc in the first place. What started out as equality of opportunity has now become equality of outcome. The idea is, if any non-white non-male queer isn't winning, succeeding, being the boss, then this is somehow proof that the opportunities weren't equal. the system is still racist! it must be, what else can explain the fact that wealth and power are not entirely equal across the board? Problem is, once these machines and ideologies are set in motion, even true equality won't be enough. Look what happened to the Kulaks. The definition of 'kulak' expanded more and more as the zealotry grew.
-make a sexualty a political movment. -get mad when someone mentions said political movement. -purge them to invite more of you political movement. -complete control of said group through ideology.
Anyone who says that DEI is not political is being disingenuous. How do you apply DEI? Through law. Who makes the law? Politicians. How do you get politicians to make that law? You vote for them and you strong-arm anyone around you to vote them. That was true before with minority (black, gay etc.) and women's right, but it was more palatable to the average person because they were asking for equal rights. 2020s activists are asking for preferential treatment, which rubs a lot of people the wrong way, which makes those politics rub a lot of people the wrong way. Thus people's dislike for 2020s identity politics.
As soon as I saw that profile I knew exactly what happened. It's the same story every single time. Just because you identify as a particular thing or have a specific identity doesn't make you better than everybody else.
@@pko1683 For real. Even if you do they're almost always either just as bad as they are (but get blocked and pooped on by everybody) or they aren't super political like they are but they're just assumed to be like that
@@pko1683 I think the far right wing types don't exactly have a 'hidden' agenda like the leftist ones do. You are VERY aware of what the far right thinks should happen to different groups of people. If the leftists weren't so subversive they would look just as delusional as the actual far right people. Emphasis on actual. People who claim others to be far right are projecting their own subversive behavior onto regular people on the right. Edit: Just MY shitty opinion.
anyone else remember the 2008-2014 crowd that was all "don't label us" "we're all unique and different" "im not a stereotype" somehow those people became exactly what they claimed they were against.
"Somehow" It's social brainwashing that weaponizes DEI through activism, and it starts in the school system. Activist need an enemy so of course that enemy is the normal people of society.
It's our own fault. We derided the whole emo/linkin park crowd back in the day as cringe and edgy, so newcomers simply ignore it as an outlet for their angst and instead goes straight to a psychologist to get a diagnosis they can be proud off and flash as a token of how unique they are.
They revealed their true colors the moment they gained social acceptance, and people like asmon are still in denial that these creatures were ostracized in basically every civilization for a *very good reason*.
This is why gatekeeping is so important. Even if it wasn't about wokeness, the premise is the same: Step 1). Someone comes to a community, and makes a name for himself; making friends, pariticpating in events, letting everyone get used to him. Step 2). That someone sees a slot for community management or moderation opens up, and guns for it to become a spearhead of the community. Step 3). Once he becomes a CM or Mod, the mask immediately falls off as his true persona is revealed. He starts abusing his power, while at the same time inviting his friends from outside the community to overtake and destroy a community's place of congregation (places like Discord, Reddit, Amino, etc. etc.) Step 4). If that person is more ambitious, they take over the idea that created the community. Basically what's allowed wokeness to enter the gaming scene, was because bad actors now control studios like Ubisoft and Bethesda. Usually, these psycos will slip up, and it's important people watch for the signs. Once they're in, there's no stopping the infection short of just abandoning your old interest for a new one.
except that this person wasnt like this when they got hired. the question is how to identify and deactivate a comprised team member? this is just something companies have to adapt to.
@@zogwort1522 A lot of us grow out of that by age 20 though, these creatures are infiltrating the computer field not because of genuine interest, but to spread their message of sickness and perversity.
@@zogwort1522 this is false. Most computer nerds of my generation I know are based and the "bullying" actually gave them strength of character. The are against this insane wokeness agenda.
To be fair, the CEO basically ignored all the obvious red flags. Twitter pronouns, green hair, 'obnoxiously queer'... WHY would you hire someone like that? To such important position too no less.
judging by the quote from the godot creator he probably thought it was fine since the game engine had nothing to do with politics(he overestiated human intellect)
I'm not buying this "Oh no, a woke community manager has gone rogue again" thing. If you hire identity activists you endorse their views. It's 2024, everyone who is smart enough to run a business knows by now that they will use every bit of influence they can muster to drive away everyone who isn't in their weird cult and promote people who are. The people hiring these weirdos are guilty as shit, they were just hoping that it would happen quietly.
I think they deep down know that, but they are so consumed with toxic positivity that they convince themselves that its just their prejudice and that need to give them a chance. Also a lot of these startup-tech-CEO's are more developers than managers and they probably lack the experience and willpower to refuse these people when they lovebomb their way in and offer their free help
That's not how hiring people works, you expect them to do their job regardless of politics. But I suppose that's a bit naive when it comes to these types.
@@timelesspoultry8849 No, its the inverse, the creature is gloating that it has the social backing to be an absolute monster and we are just expected to take it. Its not self awareness, its malice.
Because everyone knows censoring and silencing anyone who dares giving criticism and doesn't mindlessly agree with your world views is the pinnacle of "virtue" and "tolerance"! "it's fine when WE do it!"
@@SnailHatan It isn't. That is an issue of philosophy, thus there's no clear, accepted resolution for things like the tolerance paradox. Throwing around insults because you feel your ideology is under fire isn't really going to help anyone
@@SnailHatanthey aren't intolerant of intolerants they are intolerant of any disagreement regardless of how small. I don't understand why you are struggling with this.
I miss the times when internet had a motto : "On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog." It was a time when nobody knew what kind of person was typing letters on the web, and nobody cared. Your gender, race, sexual orientation and so on was not relevant to 99.99% of conversations.
A youtubedrama thread on reddit banned me for daring to defend Asmonbald the other day, even though I disagree with him heavily on politics. One of the top comments basically called Asmon an incel for spreading what they deemed "misinformation" about a female. I pointed out that nearly anytime a female is caught lying and gets criticized for it, they call their criticizers incels. They banned me for being a misogynist, for pointing out misandry.
Welcome to the Internet. They no longer have to actually talk to you, they can just ban you and surround themselves with a vast echo chamber to solidify their madness
One of my closest friends in middle school through high school was gay. I literally did not find out until my senior year. Nobody else knew. It wasn't a big deal, and it wasn't his personality. He wasn't "Obnoxiously Queer". Because nobody talked about that crap back then. At least not the way we do now. Stuff like that was kept private or to oneself. Can we go back to those times?
I agree. Hair color or not.. big deal! I've worked with many who changes their hair color.. and they're amazing workers. The problem is the community manager (or HR) here; that they should take action ASAP.
I used to try and be a Godot Dev. I Made a bunch of free projects to help people get into it, but when I tried to join communities around godot to promote the projects I had made, I found their community... how to say it.. all ideas, no substance. I couldnt find a single mature place to discuss godot dev, every discord, every forum, every place you would think to go was infested with people who where there not for dev stuff at all, but just to push their agendas and ideas. Trying to talk about dev stuff you get drowned out by all the people there whos discussions have nothing to do with dev work. I got nothing but negativity, and got tired how 98 / 100 comments, inputs, interactions, where of people who had no idea what they are talking about shaming others for not taking their point of view and it was such a bad experience it made me quit everything godot related. I deleted all my projects and left all the communities, I found it extremely toxic. In fact, my channel was created originally TO BE A GODOT TUTORIAL channel. I spent years learning that engine inside and out, it was interesting to use, just ruined by its community. I got the receipts too, check my last video
Wow, I thought they would at least try to make another game like Dustborn or some fat beauty, furry, polygamy dating sim they want games that fit their agendas, right?
How long ago was that? PZ's discord is the same, just super toxic ppl with issues all gathered to attack anyone that joins and asks about the game I asked 2 questions, trolled on both, played along even and tried bringing it up again but then someone else would do the same thing like it still hasnt happened yet. But I was actually thankful I wasn't the guy after me At a later time I opened the server again n scrolled down after my questions, dude got straight up bullied for no reason after they also asked a question
This social "progression" led to these people. The cycle will repeat unless you put strict boundries. No more glorification and special treatment. This should've stopped at "men can be women" part. Full stop.
today I got banned in a forum because I said "mods should only ban people for extreme hate, death threats, ddoss, giving virus links ect ect, but bad takes and bad opinions should be left as I can decide for myself what to block and ignore. I dont need a mod being my parent trying to protect me from BAD WORDS" and got a perma ban
Xananax did this before on Discord with the Godot Discord, which is why he was removed as the official Godot Discord, and is now Godot Cafe, they have a different Discord now. Xananax banned a bunch of people, and I commented saying I don't see how it's OK to ban developers and children for their profile pic (Anyone with Pepe the Frog, or Pepe Related) You can also see a lot of examples of Xananax of using racial slurs in his past and I guess this is their recovery method.
Honestly the whole furry debacle with Helldivers just highlights the issue with toxic positivity on social media. Im a huge freedom of expression kind of guy, and honestly, I dont care if people try to post gross furry or gross loli anime shit in other communities, but people should still be entitled to ratio the F out of that crap if they want. and it should be the posters responsibility to read the room before they set themselves up to get their feefees hurt. >BRING BACK DISLIKES. HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR BEING STUPID.
I don't think this particular incident is toxic positivity. The community manager intentionally made the first post to draw a reaction, so she could ban and belittle those who disagreed with her. This wasn't a case of people doing something stupid because the group norms prevented anyone from saying that thing was stupid. The community manager 100% knew what she was doing and got exactly the reaction she was hoping for.
I'm sorry but if a server owner wants to allow say lawful sfw furry art and then a bunch of anti furries complain and start a war over something like that in a server like that which it isn't theres, then I think people are allowed to call out those trying to start a fight over harmless furry art. Certain communities are allowed to ban people whining and freaking out with people harmlessly expressing harmless art for example.
@@zirconiumdiamond1416this is how reddit 'community managing' works. Make overt political bait, ban dissenters. Same on discord. It's a hostile community takeover.
Where’s the adults? What happened to being professional. Imagine starting a company, building trust with your customers hiring a staff member who then takes all of that trust and acts like a petulant child ???? Like what just fire these idiots
Meritocratic capitalism is a system that works. Socialism/Communism/Marxism wants to destroy what already works and replace it with the "new." The tinfoil hat theory going around right now is that this is industrial sabotage on a massive scale. With China being the usual culprit because they are investing so much money on DEI and ESG abroad despite how it's completely banned in their own country. TLDR: Someone within companies are purposely hiring people that would also ruin the company.
They are not everywhere but certain locations and jobs attract them more. Usually any job that involves social media attracts them because that's what they do all day anyways. The problem is that they only know how to use social media like it's their own social media and that's the problem.
My buddy went into the Godot discord for programming help. After about 10 minutes of troubleshooting they were permabanned for t-phobia. They never mentioned anything about politics or religion in the time they were there. Their profile just mentions being a follower of Christ. That was enough.
1. I doubt it. 2. if this somehow ends up being true, It was probably in the same discord that xananax was in, aka not the official one. Weirdly, its easier to find the non-official one than it is the find the official one.
@@ciphereal There are two discords now for Godot due to drama (Engine and Cafe). They were banned from both; both share alot of the same mods. I don't know which mod, but clearly xanax isn't the only unstable mod involved with Godot.
Like poisonous frongs in the amazon rain forest, this creatures use bright colors to warn other creatures of they toxicity, and interacting with them could be hazzardous
I've looked up to this girl's Twitch, well... she wasted 3hours and 27 minutes to get out of the space ship in BG3...(yeah the fcking prologue... Escape the Nautiloid) holy mother of gods...
It somehow gets worse. The discord mod pictured has posted numerous times over the years in Discord saying n-bombs. Calling people sand n*, snow n*, etc. Big oof.
They really did the virus tactic: First implement yourself inside the body of the host Then slowly start taking control And then sooner than you think, you will take the host’s body
@@oceanbrown7159 yes but for example, if Ubisoft goes under and has to sell off or shut down other companies would HOPEFULLY see why their ship sunk and try to avoid it by blacklisting these people. But who knows at this point im just watching the show 😂
Thank you for making this, PLEASE dont let this game engine get turned into some woke toxic mess, PLEASE. I am a normal person and a game developer and ive been ostracized for this
I mean, people were called out for using a game engine because ‚that‘s what woke losers do‘. Guess this is godots reaction. I don‘t see that big of an issue aside from a lack of context that lead to escalation apparently.
@@ferricyanide3386 I can tell you why it escalates. Every single time the reason is the same: because activist community managers want it to escalate, so they do everything to piss 99% of normal people who don't want their agenda being pushed in their face, then go on a banning spree to get their power trip, while higher-ups are watching it and doing nothing. Every. Single. Time.
@@ferricyanide3386 I can tell you why it escalates. Every single time the reason is the same: because activist community managers want it to escalate, so they do everything to piss off 99% of normal people who don't want their agenda being pushed in their face, then go on a banning spree to get their power trip, while higher-ups are watching it and doing nothing. Every. Single. Time.
Luckily it's an Open Source project, any "wokeness" relating to branding can be easily removed. Worst case scenario it gets forked but at least at a technical level, nothing's going to change (I mean.. it's a game engine, it's code.. it can't be affected by "wokeness").
>make your personal identity into your political ideology >take any criticism towards your political ideology as a personal attack and be offended by it >label criticism towards your ideology as "hate speech", ban everyone, cencor every critic >get called a brave and courageous hero by your fellow ideologically possessed allies When will this stop?
Lol, i got perma banned from the deep rock galactic discord along with hundreds of others for a thumbs down reaction on a trans right post in the memes section. Disputed it on the steam page and had both the steam mod and a dev call me a liar until i posted the publicly shown ban from an alt account. They tried to walk it back and then just locked the thread. These people are unbelievable....kill my interest in their game. I love drg but i still cant push myself to play it after a dev literally called me a liar.
imagine denying yourself a nice game just because of some bs politics, stop feeling so imp lil bro these opinions don't matter this much and they still have your money and engagement with their product
@@ayushsinghchauhan9558 lol, I'm not forcing myself to not play drg. I just can't push myself to play anymore after such a negative interaction with the devs. I put over 300+ hours in so I've gotten my money's worth. Imma just move on and avoid future titles by them as It seems folks with this type of attitude will always devolve further. Mark my words, GSG will be under fire over some political BS on their part in the future.
@@captain5104 nah you don't wanna play it because like them you want to enforce your ideology too and are unable seperate entertainment from your pompous agenda. DRG is going as strong as ever and these irrelevant confrontations wouldn't even dent their success
They say "don't judge the book by its cover" >Looks at profile pic of a community manager Well, apparently covers do not lie. I mean, seriously - hiring someone who looks like this is asking for trouble. This is unmistakable re-flag galore.
The funniest part of the phrase “don’t judge a book by its cover” is that is the entire point of a cover is to hook you If you would enjoy it. You absolutely should judge a literal book by its cover. And the same applies to an extent irl. While physical features people are born with may not necessarily paint a picture the way people choose to present themselves absolutely can. If someone has tattoos what those tattoos are of can describe what they find important ( or at least what they found important at one time) for example. A cover of a book is how the author wishes others to initially view the book and the way people wish to be viewed by others similarly can often provide clues on the type of person they are.
@@ultimaterecoil1136 Very true. But there is more to it. These kinds of people are just a symptom. They are usually the sign of a deeper issue rooted within company's policies, management and HR. Somebody looked at this walking lawsuit and a walking PR disaster and said "you are exactly what we need". Somebody decided that this is a good idea. Removing this person from the company, apology? That likely won't do anything in the long run as long as the systems that allowed this person to slip through are still in place.
Thing is literally no-one has an issue with "pronouns," normal ppl just notice and joke about the pattern that if you're performatively displaying them you're likely a specific kind of toxic ideological zealot. Same vibes as putting weird political quotes or religious text on everything
People should look at the new developers of Suckerpunch. Guaranteed that game will have "The Message." and they all look the same. Haircut, Nose Earings, Hair color. And people will still downplay and will defend it. Let's see how that goes.
These people derive their power by making themselves perpetual "victims" of something. If that goes away, what do they have left? No more excuses for their minds and lives being so screwed up.
This is how this happens: Community manager is not a high paying job, people who can get jobs somewhere else will not do this for such a low pay, that leaves the weirdos who can't get other jobs to get these position. Simple math.
By the way, any time anyone tries to go "why do you care" and appeals to ridicule to try and shut down arguments about this stuff, remember that a simple phrase of "can we not make this political?" causes these people to go insane and start insulting and blocking everyone.
I'm a game developer, I've always steered clear of this engine because their community has always had this vibe. Not at all surprised, but I'm still disappointed. It's frustrating that normal people with no political bias get pushed out because a community manager jumps to conclusions.
I agree but how does this affect you making games in Godot? I mean, the engine itself has nothing to do with these nutjobs, because they are not smart enough to code or do anything productive, the engine is made by smart people and it's open sourced, so I don't know how this would affect anyone working with Godot.
@@markoucenik6811 That's where I'm at as well. My team transitioned to Godot around the time 4.0 came around. Since then, we've built out our own version of the engine to suit our needs a bit better... this community manager is out of line, but the engine itself is apolitical. I don't see why this would deter people in anyway, just download the source code, and it can never be messed with in a meaningful way even if the entire Godot Foundation turned sour. To be fair, I've also never interacted with Godot "fanatics" so maybe there is a larger contingent of these types of people in the community. Either way, the core of the engine works regardless the sentiment.
@@markoucenik6811because in open source projects you depend on the community for support, which you ain't getting if some Walmart Trigglypuff is banning anyone with an IQ over 90.
3 years ago my wife and I started making a game using Godot and we actually released earlier this week. Just hoping this nonsense from the community managers doesn't hurt us and other small indie developers. It's a bit of a rug pull.
The fraction of consumers that really care what engine you use are so small it's really not worth worrying about. So long as the game is fun and looks interesting, that supercedes those pretty much unimportant, tertiary details from the consumers perspective. From a developer's point of view, if Godot provides a decent decent experience which fulfills your needs and vision, and doesn't force predatory rules, I see no reason to uproot your current workflow and move to a different engine. Doing so takes a lot of time.
@@Paxindica96 why the hell would you switch because the community manager decided to go rogue and be stupid... they arent a dev lmao. switching cuz of this makes u just as immature.
@@royal6442He's referring to Act Man being fairly dismissive of the term 'woke.' While it is very overused, he's acting as if that kind of stuff isn't present in media.
@MisterAnonymous1000 yeah, I know, but he acknowledged that it exists, he just doesn't say it cs he said it's overused, completely opposite to saying ot doesn't exist lmao
Is Bud Light all over again. A product that is non-political in is nature was turned into a political piece. Don't be toxic and just make a good product, smh. 🙄
Terrible example: It was a singular can. Not a marketing campaign, not a truckload, it was A can of beer. Singular. - It got tweeted and the entire yeehaw pearl clutching opposite end of the spectrum went on a giant tangent boycotting Bud Light. Which was long overdue imho, - bud light tastes like piss water.
@@kyosokutai Not a singular. The guy had plenty of them, so you are lying. But yes it was not for sale, and a terrible idea anyway, considering their core customer base. He was also hired for a campaing for them, so an another lie.
@@kyosokutai It was a marketing campaign. He was paid for this and they made a custom made can for him, so stop with this cope. Bud Light admitted it, they later backtracked because it backfired but by then it was too late. You also can't tell people how to feel because you think is a nothing burger, because is nothing to you but you can't speak for everyone. Both Godot and Bud Light could have avoided these controversies by just doing the same they always had, deliver product, stop siding with one political movement over the other and that's it, is that simple.
Well, the engine and the community manager aren't the same thing, no one can control that, they made a mistake and now the people behind the engine need to learn from it and find a better way forward. It's unfortunate but not as bad as Asmon's video shows. Though also not as okish as some people claim this to be :D.
And it will keep being that, she's just a community manager, super easy to be replaced, she probably don't even work directly with the engine. And from what people are saying here, she's already been fired.
it was woke for some time, all year lgbtq+ colored logo on old and new official discord servers. cersorship of any critisism, aka toxic positivity is a norm there.
Its open source. That means it doesn't matter what the community does, whenever shit hit the fan you just fork the project and make your own from there.
Anyone who can ever say "you have no right of speech here" to another person without realizing how stupid of a statement that is (especially when you claim to be progressive), is completely delusional, and nothing else they say should ever be taken seriously.
If I don‘t want to talk to you in my home I can kick you out. A discord server works pretty similar and I think a lot of people need to finally understand this. Also do be aware that of course you can then follow up with consequences like not talking to me afterwards when I want to talk to you. But this whole free speech thing has become a bit weird.
@@ferricyanide3386Unless it is private, a discord server is nothing close to a home. Even a private discord server is miles away from the social expectations of an actual home.
@@TheDiner50 Every shop you mentioned has the right to deny you service and entry. You can talk in public areas. Shops are private property of companies who have their ideals and rules. Btw, you can be thrown out of the bus as well if you are a nuisance there. So we already live in that world. Except that when not online most people don‘t spout hate and shit as much as they do online. Like… bruh, if you‘d shout and be a nuisance in the bus, I‘d not be the one facing you, I‘m too timid irl for that xD
@@ferricyanide3386 Denial of service or access is one thing, and completely different than claiming someone has "no right of speech", they even specifically state "because I consider your speech to be toxic vomit". Right to speech ALWAYS exists, whether you are welcome in the space or not. Can they remove you access afterwards? Absolutely. That's THEIR right. But you can't suggest that people aren't allowed to say what they want, specifically because of how you perceive it. That's the entire point of free speech in a progressive society. You can't deny speech because they are saying something you don't like. To make a statement along these lines means you have zero regard for what individual freedom means, and it's completely contradictory to the idea of equality.
@@jlog1c okay, I throw you out of my shop, you are now forbidden to enter the property. You can shout from the street sure, but you have no right to come in and announce what you want to say. That is pretty obviously what is meant here. They kick you out because you don‘t have a right for their space to be your podium to speak.
Well, the LGB started this with their insistence on moving beyond tolerance into forced acceptance and then compliance. And they haven't exactly been going out of their way to distance themselves from either that or this. I'm generally a live and let live kinda guy, but I'm starting to see why the closet existed in the first place.
@@kangarooninja2594 Na, the majority of the ones who warned are from the LGB side. The other small percentage is rednecks who hate everyone different. And that pushes most in the middle to take the side of LGBTQ. "I can see why the closet existed in the first place" Shows you definitely are not a "live and let live" 👍
@@paulodelima5705 Overall, better or worse. Indeed. Yuri and Yaoi have been popular for a long time. A certain level of sexuality acceptance is needed.
And a weak CEO who is just some nerd who wants to code, and does not have the balls to act strongly, and quickly when something like this happens. Something completely avoidable, by not hiring these crazy fools. It's not like they are hard to spot.
The person who hired them also had that hair color. HR stereotypes exist for a reason, they’re in place so the company doesn’t get sued and so that the easily offended can complain.
These type of people are fighting battles that never existed. When they get called out for their stupid actions and speech, they see the backlash as justification for their actions. Its legitimately insane.
Even if we did that, they wouldn't use it. It is not an accident they always take over stuff and try to force it down people's throats. They end up in these positions of power on purpose so they can try and enforce their ideas. Same reasons why predators become teachers. They want to force everyone else to follow their ideology.
@@_M_643simple, lack of moderation and feeling superior to be into a minority Is a shame that good products are stained by their bad and loud users reputation
@Monocure I think the reason for the cult following is that all these projects have like 1 main feature that the competition hasn't/cannot match, which makes its community fixated on it. - Linux has privacy that Windows cannot match. Also, it can be potentially faster. - Rust has type safety that other low-level languages don't. - Godot is the most finished completely free game engine where you don't need to pay royalties past a certain threshold. A lot of people just hang on such a feature and say that it's automatically better than the competition.
If I had a company and my community manager said anything of the sort, I would immediatelly fire them for sabotage and publicly apologize to the community. The fact, that HD2 allowed that to happen and now this is laughable.
As a gay person i don't respect those people there with the pronouns, it's always me me me with them and create a really bad image to others for the actually normal people of the letters community
The problem was lumping all of you into one group LGBTQIA+ Each group is different and has different goals. The goals of certain T people infringe on the rights of certain L people. Goals of certain I go against what some T wants. Its created this cesspool of people who only drag each other down and impede one another by association. You all should have been in individual groups for a better cause. Sad to see you're being dragged down by them.
19:22 flashback to the "what would you do if you were superman" reddit post, and everyone was posting heinous crimes involving various types of violence, so much so that the post had to be locked and the moderators said "the take away is that we should be glad superman is clark, and not one of us"
@@Josue_S_6411 Nah it's way more messed up than that, since on a coding level, something that depends on another asset often gets simplified as CHILD and PARENT so abiding by that would completely ruin the developing structure of literally any videogame ever
this is freaking unreal. this is going to permanently damage godot forever! I am queer, and i am so sick of these mentally ill making me and others like me look stupid!
Yep, like Asmon said, they are undoing decades of social progress. In their crusade they have completely destroyed legitimate left-wing ideals and are going to create a backlash effect against anyone who is queer even if they don't align with these extremes. They are effectively political terrorists and its just causing people to embrace the opposite side instead.
@@Eonsgunot the first, the vast majority are sane, they just dont make a huge deal about it. It’s all negativity bias towards a vocal minority of a otherwise friendly group. It’s sickening that the community is reduced to that because both the vocal minority and people just rolling with the hate
Hey asmon you need to react about the lastest TGS 2024 Dev interview about latest Dragon Quest! Basically the dev admit they only made change and censorship because of a certain western country's influence and restrictions. Them Square Enix internal DEI team and western branch is clamping hard on them.
@@angelgomez7081 Yes, but the changes and censorship shouldn't have been an issue in the first place because why "fix" something that is not broken? People that are fans of DQ and fans of old school RPGs would most likely play it more than people that aren't familiar with the franchise or just not interested with it.
Yeah..... What Asmongold says about furries.... That is 100% true. And it doesn't just happen with them. The woke people, the people who often end up in scandals, and the undesirables just end up congregating with each other and infecting servers and communities. These people MAY want to make your community better, but they want to make it better for "Them", not the actual community. Also, I am a furry, and I don't condone any community members going into places to just end up ignoring the communities they enter. There needs to be respect for anything to actually mix. You don't make friends by pushing out everyone that don't conform to your reality.
If it's true. Then you can say the same is true for Fascist or Klan members. Which lead to completely segmented spheres of world views. Which leads to CW once there too far apart. Lucky dum net fight cool that shit down.
"Community Manager" is just another word for Commissar in this day and age. And not the 40k ones... EDIT: Also, Asmongold literally describes Soviet "Entryism" in which Communists infiltrate and subvert institutions. It's literally the same playbook. These people are commies in deed, if not name.
Yeah, which is my main issue with the term "woke", its a cop-out for calling these people what they actually are, which is communists. It is *always* important to properly identify the adversary, even if the realization is painful.
I love when these kinds of ppl start complaining because every time WITHOUT FAIL, if u listen closely u can tell they’re just projecting their own wrongdoings. It’s actually insane how common it is.
Unity change their policies to make you pay every user installs your game for only 0.20$. -> Game devs don’t like this stuff and starts to search a better Game Engine. -> Godot gets alot of support because of Unity new fees. -> One year passes and now Unity deletes the fees because it was a obvious really bad idea. -> Godot employees just Effed up everything by blocking on all people they don’t like or agree. -> Possible ending right now: Unity gets back the old Game Devs because of Godot bad management of social media?
@@roflBeck dude, Imagine you finished a game on unity, switch and spend time to learn to make future games based on godot instead, and then you have to switch back or look and learn a new one that'd be sucks
@@Paxindica96 As someone who primarily works with Godot, this is concerning. Who knows where this will escalate, maybe it'll be like unreal's documentation rules.
Good rule of thumb: If you can tell what someone's politics are by their hairstyle, you probably shouldn't hire them. This doesn't just apply to hairstyles, of course, but to any kind of visual signifier of ideological belonging. Like the Great Sage Asmon of Gold said: "If you let a fox into your home, it's gonna do fox things." And if you let an activist into your company, guess what, it's gonna do activist things.
-green hair
-pronouns
-"X is my passion"
-"obnoxiously queer"
Godot walked right into that one let's be honest.
"Hey we want to bring this lighter to our gasoline factory :)))"
"Oh, a charizard. A perfect fit for a job at the flour mill!"
💥
Seriously. Signs all over saying not to stick the fork in the toaster. So they stuck the fork in the toaster.
bUt wE nEEd DEi!@@@@ sTroNg hUmAn pReSCEnCe
my immediate take is that Epic or Unreal paid this person to torpedo the engine with this bullshit.
Red flags aren’t red anymore, they’re green and have nose rings
Rainbow flags
nah they're rainbow
I miss those days when rainbows are just a bunch of colors
Usually blue, but there is a lot of green or purple.
@@jotairpontes there's even red, the most toxic one
If I banned a paying customer from my job I'd be fired before lunch
Realistically still depends on what the paying customer did to get banned. However, I am not sure a good chunk of what these people are being blocked for warrants a block not to mention they are blocked from accessing Godot tools from GitHub. This would be like McDonalds community manager on X blocking Franchisees from accessing their building premise.
Yesh exactly these people are so privileged they don't realise it
@@khatogast6916agreed and yet they act like the world's most oppressed and marginalized people lmfao thats the baffling thing.
I wouldn't even make it that far lol.
That used to be common sense. If there's one thing these woke companies do right it's make bad decisions😂.
So annoying that this is the type of shit alot of us have been pointing out for YEARS. This is just one of the biggest examples. I dont understand how they are able to keep on doing it and not just get fired.
Once you step into shit it's hard to scrape it off.
@@ahtoshkaaThen throw those shoes away and buy new ones.
They do the work for free, because having power IS the payment.
@@whisper4379 Shoes don't sue for discrimination.
@@whisper4379they also don't have loads of other shoes that will call people and explain that you're a bigot and convince people never to work with you, completely destroying your career.
She looks EXACTLY like you think she would. They all look the same.
In the search of breaking stereotypes, they endlessly create one 😂😂😂
Literally, they're all carbon copies of each other. What happened to individual expression that they wanted?
They all look insane. That septum piercing (nose ring) is dead giveaway.
@@RandoCDN87 They exist for a reason, they are always based in truth.
the connection between hair dye and SJW-ism needs to be researched. its way too common for it to be a coincidence, there is definitely some sort of underlying psychiatric commonality.
>Buzz cut/Fade
>Women
>Nose ring
>Clown colored hair
Every. Single. Time.
many such instances.
> Giant glasses they don’t always need.
> Bug eyes.
> Randomly telling you their self diagnosed mental issues
At this rate, they should be classified as their own separate species based on how consistently they have their own specific traits.
Every single time it's the exact same diverse individual who looks and acts in a very particular way.
@@missilecarrier A “particular way” being that of a screaming toddler who can’t control themselves and can’t use any form of logic? Agreed.
People with an emotional maturity rivalling a 5 year old being in a job position of a community manager is like giving a lighter to a pyromaniac.
Any decent pyromaniac already has tons of lighters, matches, etc. A good arsonist uses potato chips to create an untraceable fire.
I know it makes sense, but it is still staggering how positions of power are sought primarily by those who want to abuse it.
It’s equally shocking how they never seem to be called out for it by their peers within their team despite the ever apparent absurdity of their actions. It’s similar in a way to the police investigating themselves and finding nothing wrong.
Tribalism
Flamethrower
That discord mods logs just got posted to her page of him saying the n word like crazy too 😂
Your sexual preference should never leave the bedroom. And yet these people make it their entire personality and then claim they are accepting but are intolerant towards any other ideas except theirs
Also you can’t show us your room and expect us to not think you smell bro
She's gonna identify as fired/unemployed
😂😂😂😂😂😂 This comment needs more love its GOLD
Juan is on her side, chances are the engine is gonna suffer a lot because of the stupid decisions in regards to the community manager
God I really hope she gets to work for Disney.
Can we say she is woke or is that still banned?
@@tonyoso1391 She's literally the definition of woke so go right ahead 😂
God fucking damn it. Godot is pretty much the only consumer friendly game engine that exists on the market and these bastards have to try and ruin the brand as quickly as possible.
People should keep learning it, keep working projects with it. Someone will fork it and put it in the hands of people who aren't ideologues and all will be fine.
@@Ichthyodactyl this is why I'm a huge supporter of open source.
@@Ichthyodactyl I hope so 🙏🏻
Fortunately it's impossible to completely ruin it, that's the beauty of FOSS. If people are unhappy with the Godot Foundation, you can always just make a fork of the program and take it whatever path you want
Though of course, having an "official" group taking care of a FOSS project tends to be better. Since they can get funding for hiring permanent devs and most community PRs, plugins, assets, tutorials, etc, will be made for the official versions (even if a lot of it might be compatible with some forks)
Maybe AAA gaming hates indie developerts
"those insecure cowards just cant accept other people exist!" *bans everyone who disagrees or quotes disagreement with them*
Yeah, seems like a good solution tbh
@ferricyanide3386 not a effective one because more people will hate on them
@@km1._.741 but they won‘t hear about it?
@@ferricyanide3386 too many standards from those acts 😂
@@ferricyanide3386 talk about taking "ignorance is bliss" to a whole other level
Crazy that the CEO’s first response to this wasn’t to get rid of this toxic they/them and apologize
I was a community manager for 2 small companies, my job was both in discord and twitter. I learned from the best CMs on how to behave, be approachable, answer any questions, but also be firm about the rules in a not obnoxious way. You're both the friend of the community and the representative of the company, because in a way you represent both sides, by letting the devs know what the people are saying.
To see other CMs go rogue like that makes me want to vomit.
I've heard that the CMs of larger communities have a kind of whisper network that they use for gatekeeping, which would explain why they all seem to have the same political views. Not sure how much truth there is to that, though.
Yeah she essentially poured gasoline all over Godot and set it on fire
The difference is you understand that position is one of responsibility. She has mistaken it as one of holding power over others.
I've been a mod and managed a page before. One thing I've learned is unless you are going for freedom of speech, you need to ban wokeness or your group will be infested with it.
The one time people didn't believe me, long story, the group fell within a week and the head admin apologized for what happened and admitted I was right.
These people need to be gatekept out. Before Nichegamer had all their drama (no idea what happened other than a falling out) i knew one of their mods was a Marxists. These people cannot help but let the mask slip in defense of their cult.
You had a job, she thinks she has a loudspeaker.
The Sweet Baby Inc types “burning the games industry to the ground” campaign seems to be working in an off handed sort of way… however I don’t think the phoenix that rises from those ashes will look like what they imagined in their utopic vision.
Kirsche has been digging into this stuff over the course of this year.
DEI's not really going away just yet.
They might be getting rid of the departments, but that's because their next approach is to make it mandatory corporate culture for everyone.
Hopefully that's not what'll happen, but only time will tell.
The "Long March Through The Institutions" continues day by day, and this is how they do it. They worm their way into positions of authority, especially in regards to gatekeeping, then they shut out anyone that doesn't pledge allegiance to their ideology.
The only game on my mind anymore is Star Citizen. In about ten years, it'll be the best damn game available
@@Venhili X to doubt.
My RUclips comment was deleted. :(
The twitter desc says "obnoxiously queer". That part is very apparent.
It's kinda funny that the person tries to state that their sexuality somehow has anything to do with it, obnoxious people will be obnoxious no matter what their 'gender''sexuality''interests/hobbies' are.
I think “obnoxiously queer” is an understatement.
It's all just a means of hiding what they really are. An obnoxious weirdo.
Obnoxious alone is suffice
Being proud of being queer? Cool. But being proud of being obnoxious? Thats a character flaw...don't be proud of that. Be better. JFC
Asmon, do you remember in like early 2000s 2010s, companies started employing more diverse people because they would be called out for not employing women/minority and then they all started employing them as "token" just to fill out the quota. Well, to me at least, this looks like a remnant of that time. Companies are afraid to let them go because they would immediatelly go bonkers and sue the employer. 80k a year is cheaper than bad press/publicity. And it will just spiral out until investors start losing money. This is my 2 cents about this whole bollox.
That definitely sounds accurate given large entities move slow and measure cause and effect by years and decades.
However, the second best time to correct is now, and its not when the equally disconnected investors find out their losing money.
@@TheNapster153 yes, they should change it now but they are behemoths. Like watching Ents from Lotr in the scene where Pippin and Merry try to to reason with them during the Entmoot and they need ages to do anything.
Edit: they only speak language of money. As long as bottom line is giving them profits, they dont care. WELL, WE FCKING CARE and thank god/whatever Asmongold has large audience and can make an impact.
In a nutshell yeah, but this is the end result of having quotas etc in the first place. What started out as equality of opportunity has now become equality of outcome. The idea is, if any non-white non-male queer isn't winning, succeeding, being the boss, then this is somehow proof that the opportunities weren't equal.
the system is still racist! it must be, what else can explain the fact that wealth and power are not entirely equal across the board?
Problem is, once these machines and ideologies are set in motion, even true equality won't be enough.
Look what happened to the Kulaks. The definition of 'kulak' expanded more and more as the zealotry grew.
-make a sexualty a political movment.
-get mad when someone mentions said political movement.
-purge them to invite more of you political movement.
-complete control of said group through ideology.
-group contains 9 people
@@TheStupidDetectiv But they're the loudest 9 people on Earth.
@@Wanderer-q6e"80 tweets per day" type of ppl
Anyone who says that DEI is not political is being disingenuous. How do you apply DEI? Through law. Who makes the law? Politicians. How do you get politicians to make that law? You vote for them and you strong-arm anyone around you to vote them.
That was true before with minority (black, gay etc.) and women's right, but it was more palatable to the average person because they were asking for equal rights. 2020s activists are asking for preferential treatment, which rubs a lot of people the wrong way, which makes those politics rub a lot of people the wrong way. Thus people's dislike for 2020s identity politics.
My favorite is:
"Everything is political!"
"Then don't bring up sexuality here."
"Wtf!? My rights aren't political!"
As soon as I saw that profile I knew exactly what happened. It's the same story every single time. Just because you identify as a particular thing or have a specific identity doesn't make you better than everybody else.
Nor that anyone else has to respect their delusional identity.
it's always one sided too, you never see a too right wing community manager
@@pko1683 For real. Even if you do they're almost always either just as bad as they are (but get blocked and pooped on by everybody) or they aren't super political like they are but they're just assumed to be like that
@@pko1683 I think the far right wing types don't exactly have a 'hidden' agenda like the leftist ones do. You are VERY aware of what the far right thinks should happen to different groups of people. If the leftists weren't so subversive they would look just as delusional as the actual far right people. Emphasis on actual. People who claim others to be far right are projecting their own subversive behavior onto regular people on the right.
Edit: Just MY shitty opinion.
@@pko1683 tells you who the real extremists are
anyone else remember the 2008-2014 crowd that was all "don't label us" "we're all unique and different" "im not a stereotype"
somehow those people became exactly what they claimed they were against.
"Somehow" It's social brainwashing that weaponizes DEI through activism, and it starts in the school system. Activist need an enemy so of course that enemy is the normal people of society.
They created a new stereotype by internalizing all social tabboos
It's our own fault. We derided the whole emo/linkin park crowd back in the day as cringe and edgy, so newcomers simply ignore it as an outlet for their angst and instead goes straight to a psychologist to get a diagnosis they can be proud off and flash as a token of how unique they are.
They revealed their true colors the moment they gained social acceptance, and people like asmon are still in denial that these creatures were ostracized in basically every civilization for a *very good reason*.
This is why gatekeeping is so important. Even if it wasn't about wokeness, the premise is the same:
Step 1). Someone comes to a community, and makes a name for himself; making friends, pariticpating in events, letting everyone get used to him.
Step 2). That someone sees a slot for community management or moderation opens up, and guns for it to become a spearhead of the community.
Step 3). Once he becomes a CM or Mod, the mask immediately falls off as his true persona is revealed. He starts abusing his power, while at the same time inviting his friends from outside the community to overtake and destroy a community's place of congregation (places like Discord, Reddit, Amino, etc. etc.)
Step 4). If that person is more ambitious, they take over the idea that created the community. Basically what's allowed wokeness to enter the gaming scene, was because bad actors now control studios like Ubisoft and Bethesda.
Usually, these psycos will slip up, and it's important people watch for the signs. Once they're in, there's no stopping the infection short of just abandoning your old interest for a new one.
That's basic judge of character issue.
except that this person wasnt like this when they got hired. the question is how to identify and deactivate a comprised team member? this is just something companies have to adapt to.
@@zogwort1522 A lot of us grow out of that by age 20 though, these creatures are infiltrating the computer field not because of genuine interest, but to spread their message of sickness and perversity.
@@zogwort1522 this is false. Most computer nerds of my generation I know are based and the "bullying" actually gave them strength of character. The are against this insane wokeness agenda.
@@rotraven TDS. Pure and simple. It's election season.
To be fair, the CEO basically ignored all the obvious red flags. Twitter pronouns, green hair, 'obnoxiously queer'... WHY would you hire someone like that? To such important position too no less.
Godot doesn't have a CEO.
Weakling. Too weak to even acknowledge the problem.
judging by the quote from the godot creator he probably thought it was fine since the game engine had nothing to do with politics(he overestiated human intellect)
Usually one normal looking person gets in then they bring the clown possy in and all hell breaks loose
“Pronouns detected, opinion rejected.” I live by that. Always the crazys
I'm not buying this "Oh no, a woke community manager has gone rogue again" thing. If you hire identity activists you endorse their views. It's 2024, everyone who is smart enough to run a business knows by now that they will use every bit of influence they can muster to drive away everyone who isn't in their weird cult and promote people who are. The people hiring these weirdos are guilty as shit, they were just hoping that it would happen quietly.
Ya, I now agree. It's been enough that people know by now.
I think they deep down know that, but they are so consumed with toxic positivity that they convince themselves that its just their prejudice and that need to give them a chance.
Also a lot of these startup-tech-CEO's are more developers than managers and they probably lack the experience and willpower to refuse these people when they lovebomb their way in and offer their free help
The hiring manager could be an unaware normie, a default liberal. If that's what they are, hopefully this event will be their wake-up call.
Well said. Stand by and do nothing? Guilty of negligence.
That's not how hiring people works, you expect them to do their job regardless of politics. But I suppose that's a bit naive when it comes to these types.
Can employers sue their employees for publicly destroying their brand whilst on the clock?
and gain what? you can sue a hobo, what did you win? you know whats more effective? firing the CM, and then issuing an apology and etc...
atleast here outside US you can do it. I think they should sue her to make a statement. Then maybe these people calm down a little.
corporate sabotage
@@117Ender you think an animal can do a proper apology? 💀🤣
they are a 20-something that lives in California they don't have any money there's no point in suing them, just fire them and move on
I hate that were at this point where this infected everything in life. This shit needs to go, NOW.
Bad community manager.
CM's are supposed to be a PR mouthpiece to prevent issues.
This CM is inventing problems for the entire company out of nothing.
Community managers making drama so they have a community to manage
Never thought it could get worse than what happened with the saints row community.
"obnoxiously queer" is actually a pretty apt descriptor
Piercingly queer
Isn't that what the f word means?
@@JeavesinglyThe one that rhymes with baguette?
At least she has a shred of self-awareness
@@timelesspoultry8849 No, its the inverse, the creature is gloating that it has the social backing to be an absolute monster and we are just expected to take it. Its not self awareness, its malice.
Because everyone knows censoring and silencing anyone who dares giving criticism and doesn't mindlessly agree with your world views is the pinnacle of "virtue" and "tolerance"!
"it's fine when WE do it!"
They/them will cry more with losing money
(((they))) cry in pain as (((they))) strike you
It is. Tolerating intolerance does nothing. Both you and her lack basic self-awareness.
@@SnailHatan It isn't. That is an issue of philosophy, thus there's no clear, accepted resolution for things like the tolerance paradox. Throwing around insults because you feel your ideology is under fire isn't really going to help anyone
@@SnailHatanthey aren't intolerant of intolerants they are intolerant of any disagreement regardless of how small. I don't understand why you are struggling with this.
I miss the times when internet had a motto : "On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog."
It was a time when nobody knew what kind of person was typing letters on the web, and nobody cared. Your gender, race, sexual orientation and so on was not relevant to 99.99% of conversations.
Guess who's about to lose their job
She's absolutely nuts on her personal page too
Shes gonna identify as unemployed
sorry but these type of people only fail upwards
Nah, doubt that
Godot's problem is that it's great to get projects of the ground, but impossible for stable releases of complex games
@@KatsuoAkimoto I don't see how becoming communally vilified and fired is falling upwards
There's something in the water in California isn't there?
its semen
Turning the frogs gay 😂
If you drank it, you'd probably not find Pippa breedable anymore, TurtleChad.
It's mostly in the schools.
Something something making the frogs gay something something
A youtubedrama thread on reddit banned me for daring to defend Asmonbald the other day, even though I disagree with him heavily on politics. One of the top comments basically called Asmon an incel for spreading what they deemed "misinformation" about a female. I pointed out that nearly anytime a female is caught lying and gets criticized for it, they call their criticizers incels. They banned me for being a misogynist, for pointing out misandry.
You were banned from their cult.
You should see this as a win.
reddit....not even once
What politics you disagree with him?
Welcome to the Internet. They no longer have to actually talk to you, they can just ban you and surround themselves with a vast echo chamber to solidify their madness
What do you disagree with? I think his politics is just common sense.
One of my closest friends in middle school through high school was gay. I literally did not find out until my senior year. Nobody else knew. It wasn't a big deal, and it wasn't his personality. He wasn't "Obnoxiously Queer". Because nobody talked about that crap back then. At least not the way we do now. Stuff like that was kept private or to oneself. Can we go back to those times?
All it takes is one nutjob to cost your organization YEARS of hard work and reputation building.
They hired her. No mercy
They literally hired a woman with color hair. They are all made from the same cloth.
Guys need to stop being soft.
I agree. Hair color or not.. big deal! I've worked with many who changes their hair color.. and they're amazing workers. The problem is the community manager (or HR) here; that they should take action ASAP.
@@raul0ca 😂😂😂 She committed a killing frenzy.
I used to try and be a Godot Dev. I Made a bunch of free projects to help people get into it, but when I tried to join communities around godot to promote the projects I had made, I found their community... how to say it.. all ideas, no substance. I couldnt find a single mature place to discuss godot dev, every discord, every forum, every place you would think to go was infested with people who where there not for dev stuff at all, but just to push their agendas and ideas. Trying to talk about dev stuff you get drowned out by all the people there whos discussions have nothing to do with dev work.
I got nothing but negativity, and got tired how 98 / 100 comments, inputs, interactions, where of people who had no idea what they are talking about shaming others for not taking their point of view and it was such a bad experience it made me quit everything godot related. I deleted all my projects and left all the communities, I found it extremely toxic.
In fact, my channel was created originally TO BE A GODOT TUTORIAL channel. I spent years learning that engine inside and out, it was interesting to use, just ruined by its community. I got the receipts too, check my last video
godot is trash, always is, always was.
@@kaanozkuscu5079The engine? Not exactly it's good enough. The community? Absolutely.
Wow, I thought they would at least try to make another game like Dustborn or some fat beauty, furry, polygamy dating sim
they want games that fit their agendas, right?
How long ago was that?
PZ's discord is the same, just super toxic ppl with issues all gathered to attack anyone that joins and asks about the game
I asked 2 questions, trolled on both, played along even and tried bringing it up again but then someone else would do the same thing like it still hasnt happened yet.
But I was actually thankful I wasn't the guy after me
At a later time I opened the server again n scrolled down after my questions, dude got straight up bullied for no reason after they also asked a question
@@chrisdt2297 funnily enough, 4 chan makes better furry dating sims than government backed companies doing the same thing (snoot game)
These people are activists. They aren't letting their politics leach into their job, they choose their job so they can spread their politics.
Yes, it's meant to "help" their community, but this in no way wins anyone over.
This social "progression" led to these people. The cycle will repeat unless you put strict boundries. No more glorification and special treatment. This should've stopped at "men can be women" part. Full stop.
today I got banned in a forum because I said "mods should only ban people for extreme hate, death threats, ddoss, giving virus links ect ect, but bad takes and bad opinions should be left as I can decide for myself what to block and ignore. I dont need a mod being my parent trying to protect me from BAD WORDS" and got a perma ban
You threatened their power. Simple really.
LMAO are you really that surprised?
Funny how it’s always the same exact type of person lol
Every single time.
They're literally just clones of one another at this point. Do they want individuality or not?
@@SamusV4 They literally are agents from Matrix
There's a couple manifesto's out too.
First it's reddit/discord/community management.
Then it's....
They are made in a factory, called twitter
The "NPC meme" exists for a reason...
They closed all of the asylums and they all moved to California!
The cm is located in Germany.
the inmates are running the asylum
The Jonkler runs the aslume now
*germany
California is the new aslume
If you hire an It/That then you deserve to lose your business to the inevitable chaos they create.
back in the days people with tattoos would have a hard time finding jobs, hopefully soon people with RGB hair color will face the same issue.
I won’t hire them
What about CMYK?
Only people who got tats 100 years ago were criminals and sailors
This isn't a job, it's volunteer work, and tattoos haven't stopped anyone from doing stuff for free ever.
@@davidy22 I wouldn't let someone drive my project into the ground even if they do it "for free"
Xananax did this before on Discord with the Godot Discord, which is why he was removed as the official Godot Discord, and is now Godot Cafe, they have a different Discord now.
Xananax banned a bunch of people, and I commented saying I don't see how it's OK to ban developers and children for their profile pic (Anyone with Pepe the Frog, or Pepe Related)
You can also see a lot of examples of Xananax of using racial slurs in his past and I guess this is their recovery method.
😮
It still probably uses slurs. It isn't guilt, they were always nasty. Now they can be cruel and righteous.
She?
Recovery method? It's just taking the next step.
Never trying xanax,again I slept for 3 days straight.
the quote at 3:50 from "xanaxax" tweeting : "You have no right to speech". That's a quote from a fascist
That community manager is a real-life Dustborn character.
Honestly the whole furry debacle with Helldivers just highlights the issue with toxic positivity on social media.
Im a huge freedom of expression kind of guy, and honestly, I dont care if people try to post gross furry or gross loli anime shit in other communities, but people should still be entitled to ratio the F out of that crap if they want. and it should be the posters responsibility to read the room before they set themselves up to get their feefees hurt.
>BRING BACK DISLIKES. HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR BEING STUPID.
💯
People should have the freedom to express themselves but also to be criticised for it, especially for stupid shit.
I don't think this particular incident is toxic positivity. The community manager intentionally made the first post to draw a reaction, so she could ban and belittle those who disagreed with her. This wasn't a case of people doing something stupid because the group norms prevented anyone from saying that thing was stupid. The community manager 100% knew what she was doing and got exactly the reaction she was hoping for.
I'm sorry but if a server owner wants to allow say lawful sfw furry art and then a bunch of anti furries complain and start a war over something like that in a server like that which it isn't theres, then I think people are allowed to call out those trying to start a fight over harmless furry art. Certain communities are allowed to ban people whining and freaking out with people harmlessly expressing harmless art for example.
@@zirconiumdiamond1416this is how reddit 'community managing' works. Make overt political bait, ban dissenters. Same on discord. It's a hostile community takeover.
Where’s the adults? What happened to being professional. Imagine starting a company, building trust with your customers hiring a staff member who then takes all of that trust and acts like a petulant child ???? Like what just fire these idiots
Meritocratic capitalism is a system that works. Socialism/Communism/Marxism wants to destroy what already works and replace it with the "new."
The tinfoil hat theory going around right now is that this is industrial sabotage on a massive scale.
With China being the usual culprit because they are investing so much money on DEI and ESG abroad despite how it's completely banned in their own country.
TLDR: Someone within companies are purposely hiring people that would also ruin the company.
Why are they everywhere? Where did they come from?
Radicalised at Universities.
Read a book named Counter wokecraft
Academics / University + Social Media have majority influence on young impressionable minds
Mental institutions got shut down. Those people started having kids and now we are dealing with the crazies.
They are not everywhere but certain locations and jobs attract them more. Usually any job that involves social media attracts them because that's what they do all day anyways. The problem is that they only know how to use social media like it's their own social media and that's the problem.
Getting blocked on Github is completely insane.
This person should not be allowed to work in tech ever again.
My buddy went into the Godot discord for programming help. After about 10 minutes of troubleshooting they were permabanned for t-phobia. They never mentioned anything about politics or religion in the time they were there. Their profile just mentions being a follower of Christ. That was enough.
The T+ crew are the most oppressive authoritarian group there is *in modern times, but at this rate who knows*
Wow. Tge ceo needs to get on this fast
no effin way 😯
1. I doubt it. 2. if this somehow ends up being true, It was probably in the same discord that xananax was in, aka not the official one. Weirdly, its easier to find the non-official one than it is the find the official one.
@@ciphereal There are two discords now for Godot due to drama (Engine and Cafe). They were banned from both; both share alot of the same mods. I don't know which mod, but clearly xanax isn't the only unstable mod involved with Godot.
0:11 same nose ring and hairstyle with them
Well, cattle tend to follow the herd, maybe thats what the nose ring is all about. A symbol of their people. True intelligentsia.
so much for diversity when they all look and act the same way
Like poisonous frongs in the amazon rain forest, this creatures use bright colors to warn other creatures of they toxicity, and interacting with them could be hazzardous
@@moxtordoki96fuck! You beat me to it lol I was going to say the same thing
💀😂🤣😂 don’t ya mean “they” 😭🤣😂🤣😂
I've looked up to this girl's Twitch, well... she wasted 3hours and 27 minutes to get out of the space ship in BG3...(yeah the fcking prologue... Escape the Nautiloid) holy mother of gods...
lol
'Murder Veggie' sounds like some edgy nickname for a militant vegan.
And it somehow fits well for her since she has sickly green hair, lol.
No way, only way to squeeze 3h from that is by going afk lol
They put the gay in gamers I guess.
No way, I'm not even going to check, are you for real?
These days I'm scared to tell anyone that I'm a trans woman in fear of people thinking I'm like those weirdos on twitter
It somehow gets worse. The discord mod pictured has posted numerous times over the years in Discord saying n-bombs. Calling people sand n*, snow n*, etc.
Big oof.
I'm starting to notice a pattern, right wingers are closeted gays and lefties are closeted racists
Every single time, the ourobouros is destined to consume itself...
It’s almost as if they are massive hypocrites and only use the ideology as a means to grab power.
Dude at this point I'm willing to believe they were hacked, you can't just wake up one morning and just do whatever this is.
Yikers
They really did the virus tactic:
First implement yourself inside the body of the host
Then slowly start taking control
And then sooner than you think, you will take the host’s body
Then go bankrupt and never get hired in the games industry ever again. Very smart
@fishnutz5196 They will find new hosts. They will always be a problem until people tell them no and reject them.
By take, you of course mean destroy, because the virus inevitably destroys the host cells assuming it isn't destroyed first.
@@oceanbrown7159 yes but for example, if Ubisoft goes under and has to sell off or shut down other companies would HOPEFULLY see why their ship sunk and try to avoid it by blacklisting these people. But who knows at this point im just watching the show 😂
@@fishnutz5196 Tencent could buy them. They know whats good. We will see how things go. Either they burn or be bought.
Thank you for making this, PLEASE dont let this game engine get turned into some woke toxic mess, PLEASE. I am a normal person and a game developer and ive been ostracized for this
I mean, people were called out for using a game engine because ‚that‘s what woke losers do‘. Guess this is godots reaction. I don‘t see that big of an issue aside from a lack of context that lead to escalation apparently.
@@ferricyanide3386 I can tell you why it escalates. Every single time the reason is the same: because activist community managers want it to escalate, so they do everything to piss 99% of normal people who don't want their agenda being pushed in their face, then go on a banning spree to get their power trip, while higher-ups are watching it and doing nothing. Every. Single. Time.
@@ferricyanide3386 I can tell you why it escalates. Every single time the reason is the same: because activist community managers want it to escalate, so they do everything to piss off 99% of normal people who don't want their agenda being pushed in their face, then go on a banning spree to get their power trip, while higher-ups are watching it and doing nothing. Every. Single. Time.
You're woke now. 😂
Luckily it's an Open Source project, any "wokeness" relating to branding can be easily removed. Worst case scenario it gets forked but at least at a technical level, nothing's going to change (I mean.. it's a game engine, it's code.. it can't be affected by "wokeness").
>make your personal identity into your political ideology
>take any criticism towards your political ideology as a personal attack and be offended by it
>label criticism towards your ideology as "hate speech", ban everyone, cencor every critic
>get called a brave and courageous hero by your fellow ideologically possessed allies
When will this stop?
Lol, i got perma banned from the deep rock galactic discord along with hundreds of others for a thumbs down reaction on a trans right post in the memes section. Disputed it on the steam page and had both the steam mod and a dev call me a liar until i posted the publicly shown ban from an alt account. They tried to walk it back and then just locked the thread. These people are unbelievable....kill my interest in their game. I love drg but i still cant push myself to play it after a dev literally called me a liar.
imagine denying yourself a nice game just because of some bs politics, stop feeling so imp lil bro these opinions don't matter this much and they still have your money and engagement with their product
@@ayushsinghchauhan9558 lol, I'm not forcing myself to not play drg. I just can't push myself to play anymore after such a negative interaction with the devs. I put over 300+ hours in so I've gotten my money's worth. Imma just move on and avoid future titles by them as It seems folks with this type of attitude will always devolve further. Mark my words, GSG will be under fire over some political BS on their part in the future.
@@captain5104 nah you don't wanna play it because like them you want to enforce your ideology too and are unable seperate entertainment from your pompous agenda. DRG is going as strong as ever and these irrelevant confrontations wouldn't even dent their success
@@ayushsinghchauhan9558
Why are you defending it so hard then?
Get a life.
@@ayushsinghchauhan9558how's the meatriding?
They say "don't judge the book by its cover"
>Looks at profile pic of a community manager
Well, apparently covers do not lie.
I mean, seriously - hiring someone who looks like this is asking for trouble. This is unmistakable re-flag galore.
The funniest part of the phrase “don’t judge a book by its cover” is that is the entire point of a cover is to hook you If you would enjoy it. You absolutely should judge a literal book by its cover. And the same applies to an extent irl. While physical features people are born with may not necessarily paint a picture the way people choose to present themselves absolutely can. If someone has tattoos what those tattoos are of can describe what they find important ( or at least what they found important at one time) for example. A cover of a book is how the author wishes others to initially view the book and the way people wish to be viewed by others similarly can often provide clues on the type of person they are.
@@ultimaterecoil1136 Very true.
But there is more to it.
These kinds of people are just a symptom. They are usually the sign of a deeper issue rooted within company's policies, management and HR.
Somebody looked at this walking lawsuit and a walking PR disaster and said "you are exactly what we need". Somebody decided that this is a good idea.
Removing this person from the company, apology? That likely won't do anything in the long run as long as the systems that allowed this person to slip through are still in place.
It is always the pronouns... why am i even surprise.
Hi surprise, it's me, dad
Thing is literally no-one has an issue with "pronouns," normal ppl just notice and joke about the pattern that if you're performatively displaying them you're likely a specific kind of toxic ideological zealot. Same vibes as putting weird political quotes or religious text on everything
People should look at the new developers of Suckerpunch. Guaranteed that game will have "The Message." and they all look the same. Haircut, Nose Earings, Hair color. And people will still downplay and will defend it. Let's see how that goes.
It was She/They, does that mean she would be offended if I said "Go talk to HER"?
Half joking, half serious.
These people derive their power by making themselves perpetual "victims" of something. If that goes away, what do they have left? No more excuses for their minds and lives being so screwed up.
This is how this happens:
Community manager is not a high paying job, people who can get jobs somewhere else will not do this for such a low pay, that leaves the weirdos who can't get other jobs to get these position. Simple math.
By the way, any time anyone tries to go "why do you care" and appeals to ridicule to try and shut down arguments about this stuff, remember that a simple phrase of "can we not make this political?" causes these people to go insane and start insulting and blocking everyone.
I'm a game developer, I've always steered clear of this engine because their community has always had this vibe. Not at all surprised, but I'm still disappointed. It's frustrating that normal people with no political bias get pushed out because a community manager jumps to conclusions.
Yeah. I used to work professionally in Godot game making and they always had those sorts of activists.
I agree but how does this affect you making games in Godot? I mean, the engine itself has nothing to do with these nutjobs, because they are not smart enough to code or do anything productive, the engine is made by smart people and it's open sourced, so I don't know how this would affect anyone working with Godot.
@@markoucenik6811 ? He doesnt want to support their engine
@@markoucenik6811 That's where I'm at as well. My team transitioned to Godot around the time 4.0 came around. Since then, we've built out our own version of the engine to suit our needs a bit better... this community manager is out of line, but the engine itself is apolitical. I don't see why this would deter people in anyway, just download the source code, and it can never be messed with in a meaningful way even if the entire Godot Foundation turned sour.
To be fair, I've also never interacted with Godot "fanatics" so maybe there is a larger contingent of these types of people in the community. Either way, the core of the engine works regardless the sentiment.
@@markoucenik6811because in open source projects you depend on the community for support, which you ain't getting if some Walmart Trigglypuff is banning anyone with an IQ over 90.
Do you think if Michael Jackson was still alive he'd have his pronouns set to Heeeeeeee Heee?
Shemoan
Don’t google Ayuwoki
He'd identify sexually as a minor
I got into an argument years ago that tolerance and inclusivity is just a facade for opposite...here we are.
3 years ago my wife and I started making a game using Godot and we actually released earlier this week. Just hoping this nonsense from the community managers doesn't hurt us and other small indie developers. It's a bit of a rug pull.
Most people don‘t really care about what engine is used. Would you mind sharing your game‘s name? I‘d be interested to see such a project.
@@ferricyanide3386 well its more so the devs concern, cause it took time to switch and learn new engine.
The fraction of consumers that really care what engine you use are so small it's really not worth worrying about. So long as the game is fun and looks interesting, that supercedes those pretty much unimportant, tertiary details from the consumers perspective.
From a developer's point of view, if Godot provides a decent decent experience which fulfills your needs and vision, and doesn't force predatory rules, I see no reason to uproot your current workflow and move to a different engine. Doing so takes a lot of time.
It won't hurt you. Godot is free too.
@@Paxindica96 why the hell would you switch because the community manager decided to go rogue and be stupid... they arent a dev lmao. switching cuz of this makes u just as immature.
4:52 you know it’s bad when asmon says you smell bad
Ultra mega oof
😂
These people need a Shutter Island situation where they can stay busy but accomplish nothing real.
Hahahahahhaahahhah this is hilarious
A lot of them have do nothing jobs like that already. They get paid to give internal powerpoint lectures on stuff that doesn't exist
Do they get lobotomies at the end?
@@amandap7733 They already got them...
Well well well the usual suspects
Didn't Act Man just finish telling me this sort of thing doesn't exist?
Lmao what
Is Act man your mentor or something? 🤡
@@royal6442He's referring to Act Man being fairly dismissive of the term 'woke.'
While it is very overused, he's acting as if that kind of stuff isn't present in media.
didn't he say, it's overused? That doesn't imply, it doesn't exist.
@MisterAnonymous1000 yeah, I know, but he acknowledged that it exists, he just doesn't say it cs he said it's overused, completely opposite to saying ot doesn't exist lmao
Now you have dragon quest 3 creators being whined at to censor.
Japan, we as gamers who buy your stuff dont want this
Dragon Quest 3 is already censored to hell
They're more likely to get the message if you stop being a gamer who buys their stuff
Is Bud Light all over again. A product that is non-political in is nature was turned into a political piece. Don't be toxic and just make a good product, smh. 🙄
Terrible example: It was a singular can. Not a marketing campaign, not a truckload, it was A can of beer. Singular. - It got tweeted and the entire yeehaw pearl clutching opposite end of the spectrum went on a giant tangent boycotting Bud Light.
Which was long overdue imho, - bud light tastes like piss water.
They hired Dylan as an entire ad campaign. Then when they backed out, also pissed off the LGHDTV crew.
Nice try at gaslighting.
@@kyosokutai Not a singular. The guy had plenty of them, so you are lying. But yes it was not for sale, and a terrible idea anyway, considering their core customer base.
He was also hired for a campaing for them, so an another lie.
@@kyosokutai It was a marketing campaign. He was paid for this and they made a custom made can for him, so stop with this cope. Bud Light admitted it, they later backtracked because it backfired but by then it was too late.
You also can't tell people how to feel because you think is a nothing burger, because is nothing to you but you can't speak for everyone.
Both Godot and Bud Light could have avoided these controversies by just doing the same they always had, deliver product, stop siding with one political movement over the other and that's it, is that simple.
@@kyosokutaiI know Bud Light is mostly water buy why the fuck would you carry it for them 😅😅😅
My man CAN NOT be dissing someone for smelling bad with a room like his
Damn Godot was supposed to be a based free open source engine :(
So based it went woke lol
Well, the engine and the community manager aren't the same thing, no one can control that, they made a mistake and now the people behind the engine need to learn from it and find a better way forward. It's unfortunate but not as bad as Asmon's video shows. Though also not as okish as some people claim this to be :D.
And it will keep being that, she's just a community manager, super easy to be replaced, she probably don't even work directly with the engine.
And from what people are saying here, she's already been fired.
it was woke for some time, all year lgbtq+ colored logo on old and new official discord servers. cersorship of any critisism, aka toxic positivity is a norm there.
Its open source. That means it doesn't matter what the community does, whenever shit hit the fan you just fork the project and make your own from there.
Anyone who can ever say "you have no right of speech here" to another person without realizing how stupid of a statement that is (especially when you claim to be progressive), is completely delusional, and nothing else they say should ever be taken seriously.
If I don‘t want to talk to you in my home I can kick you out. A discord server works pretty similar and I think a lot of people need to finally understand this. Also do be aware that of course you can then follow up with consequences like not talking to me afterwards when I want to talk to you. But this whole free speech thing has become a bit weird.
@@ferricyanide3386Unless it is private, a discord server is nothing close to a home. Even a private discord server is miles away from the social expectations of an actual home.
@@TheDiner50 Every shop you mentioned has the right to deny you service and entry. You can talk in public areas. Shops are private property of companies who have their ideals and rules. Btw, you can be thrown out of the bus as well if you are a nuisance there. So we already live in that world. Except that when not online most people don‘t spout hate and shit as much as they do online. Like… bruh, if you‘d shout and be a nuisance in the bus, I‘d not be the one facing you, I‘m too timid irl for that xD
@@ferricyanide3386 Denial of service or access is one thing, and completely different than claiming someone has "no right of speech", they even specifically state "because I consider your speech to be toxic vomit".
Right to speech ALWAYS exists, whether you are welcome in the space or not. Can they remove you access afterwards? Absolutely. That's THEIR right. But you can't suggest that people aren't allowed to say what they want, specifically because of how you perceive it. That's the entire point of free speech in a progressive society. You can't deny speech because they are saying something you don't like. To make a statement along these lines means you have zero regard for what individual freedom means, and it's completely contradictory to the idea of equality.
@@jlog1c okay, I throw you out of my shop, you are now forbidden to enter the property. You can shout from the street sure, but you have no right to come in and announce what you want to say. That is pretty obviously what is meant here. They kick you out because you don‘t have a right for their space to be your podium to speak.
As you were all warned, "The LGB isn"t part of the Tq+'
Well, the LGB started this with their insistence on moving beyond tolerance into forced acceptance and then compliance. And they haven't exactly been going out of their way to distance themselves from either that or this. I'm generally a live and let live kinda guy, but I'm starting to see why the closet existed in the first place.
@@kangarooninja2594
Na, the majority of the ones who warned are from the LGB side.
The other small percentage is rednecks who hate everyone different. And that pushes most in the middle to take the side of LGBTQ.
"I can see why the closet existed in the first place"
Shows you definitely are not a "live and let live"
👍
@@kangarooninja2594 You don't known what acceptance means. Japan has a better acceptance then USA.
We have the word holebi which is LGB.
@@paulodelima5705 Overall, better or worse. Indeed.
Yuri and Yaoi have been popular for a long time.
A certain level of sexuality acceptance is needed.
"Oh boy, I finally got appointed as community manager. Time to make this community all about MEMEMEMEME"
"Can f- off into Oblivion"
Me: **Launches Oblivion**
Have you heard of the High Elves?
*STARES INTO YOUR SOUL*
Just another community manager abusing their power
And a weak CEO who is just some nerd who wants to code, and does not have the balls to act strongly, and quickly when something like this happens.
Something completely avoidable, by not hiring these crazy fools. It's not like they are hard to spot.
How are they not screened during interviews? Colored hair = denied, all problems solved
The person who hired them also had that hair color. HR stereotypes exist for a reason, they’re in place so the company doesn’t get sued and so that the easily offended can complain.
discrimination is illegal guess
its sad to think that these kinds of people are taking job opportunities away from actually sane individuals
@@lowfade556 Is illegal when you say it, you can invent a stupid reason to not hire someone, or not even respond to the emails.
@@Zhtrik HR are the worst people to work with. They are also the most likely to commit HR violations at the Christmas party too.
These type of people are fighting battles that never existed. When they get called out for their stupid actions and speech, they see the backlash as justification for their actions. Its legitimately insane.
Can we give these people their own internet where they can feel satisfied moderating each other.
We got the darknet. 😇 Worse case-internet-k1ll-switch-scenario.
the worst thing that happened to the internet was tumblr collapsing. That is were all the freaks went
I think it goes without saying that their existence is fuelled by FORCING you and everyone around to submit to them. They are literal predators.
Even if we did that, they wouldn't use it. It is not an accident they always take over stuff and try to force it down people's throats. They end up in these positions of power on purpose so they can try and enforce their ideas. Same reasons why predators become teachers. They want to force everyone else to follow their ideology.
We need to have Internet Asylum
I remember some developers called Godot as a Cult, I never expect this kind of Cult. The colourful one.
I don't know what's up with open source projects and them getting a cult following. First, it was Linux, then Rust and now Godot...
It was one guy, and he's an actual schizo. He wanted all Russians banned from the project, and because he couldn't behave himself he was banned.
@@_M_643simple, lack of moderation and feeling superior to be into a minority
Is a shame that good products are stained by their bad and loud users reputation
@Monocure I think the reason for the cult following is that all these projects have like 1 main feature that the competition hasn't/cannot match, which makes its community fixated on it.
- Linux has privacy that Windows cannot match. Also, it can be potentially faster.
- Rust has type safety that other low-level languages don't.
- Godot is the most finished completely free game engine where you don't need to pay royalties past a certain threshold.
A lot of people just hang on such a feature and say that it's automatically better than the competition.
If I had a company and my community manager said anything of the sort, I would immediatelly fire them for sabotage and publicly apologize to the community.
The fact, that HD2 allowed that to happen and now this is laughable.
You'd think that companies understood how bad this looks. What annoys me is that they blunder into the same problem over, and over, and over.
They put priority onto politics and emotions over their product, and then they'll throw a pikachu face once it fails.
It's like a parasite has rooted itself deep into the company
more like sickness of the mind/ideology
As a gay person i don't respect those people there with the pronouns, it's always me me me with them and create a really bad image to others for the actually normal people of the letters community
the chad BonBonToro VS the virgin she/they crazy narcissist
"LGBTQ" is just Q using the other letters as their sword and shield on behalf of the CCP.
"normal"
Run of the mill homosexuals. Get TranzZzZzs off of grindr.
The problem was lumping all of you into one group LGBTQIA+
Each group is different and has different goals. The goals of certain T people infringe on the rights of certain L people. Goals of certain I go against what some T wants. Its created this cesspool of people who only drag each other down and impede one another by association. You all should have been in individual groups for a better cause. Sad to see you're being dragged down by them.
19:22 flashback to the "what would you do if you were superman" reddit post, and everyone was posting heinous crimes involving various types of violence, so much so that the post had to be locked and the moderators said "the take away is that we should be glad superman is clark, and not one of us"
Everyone in that post self-reported to being Hal/Tighten from Megamind.
@@Zantetsudex Hal is definately the embodiment of a redditor.
Nose rings were usually inserted in piglets to keep them from digging in the ground.
"absolutely fucking unreal" yes Asmon. Unreal indeed. UE5 it is. 😂
Nah
Didn't Epic release a "update" where they asked developers to stop using patriarchy and gendered language in their own coding while using UE5?
@@LoquendoversoITI guess Super Smash Bros. and Halo couldn't be made in Unreal, because of MASTER Hand and MASTER chief.
@@Josue_S_6411 Nah it's way more messed up than that, since on a coding level, something that depends on another asset often gets simplified as CHILD and PARENT so abiding by that would completely ruin the developing structure of literally any videogame ever
Epic is just as bad unfortunately
Power does not corrupt absolutely. It only gives those the ability to do what they always wanted to do.
this is freaking unreal. this is going to permanently damage godot forever! I am queer, and i am so sick of these mentally ill making me and others like me look stupid!
Wait all I have seen in my life is every other individual who has pronouns as crazy. Are you the first sane human?
Yep, like Asmon said, they are undoing decades of social progress. In their crusade they have completely destroyed legitimate left-wing ideals and are going to create a backlash effect against anyone who is queer even if they don't align with these extremes. They are effectively political terrorists and its just causing people to embrace the opposite side instead.
No, its godot. (sorry just couldnt hold back on that joke).
It's not unreal though...
Sorry, couldn't resist too lol
@@Eonsgunot the first, the vast majority are sane, they just dont make a huge deal about it. It’s all negativity bias towards a vocal minority of a otherwise friendly group. It’s sickening that the community is reduced to that because both the vocal minority and people just rolling with the hate
She didn't go rogue.
They just thought everyone would lay down and take it.
Hey asmon you need to react about the lastest TGS 2024 Dev interview about latest Dragon Quest! Basically the dev admit they only made change and censorship because of a certain western country's influence and restrictions. Them Square Enix internal DEI team and western branch is clamping hard on them.
Well, guess Dragon Quest goes in the bin then. By complying with this BS, they become the BS. Fuck'en.
if the game is good no one will care
he actually did react to that
@@angelgomez7081 Yes, but the changes and censorship shouldn't have been an issue in the first place because why "fix" something that is not broken? People that are fans of DQ and fans of old school RPGs would most likely play it more than people that aren't familiar with the franchise or just not interested with it.
@@sumg8694 oh i agree i dont know why they censored it but sadly if the game is good it’ll do fine
Yeah..... What Asmongold says about furries.... That is 100% true. And it doesn't just happen with them. The woke people, the people who often end up in scandals, and the undesirables just end up congregating with each other and infecting servers and communities. These people MAY want to make your community better, but they want to make it better for "Them", not the actual community. Also, I am a furry, and I don't condone any community members going into places to just end up ignoring the communities they enter. There needs to be respect for anything to actually mix.
You don't make friends by pushing out everyone that don't conform to your reality.
If it's true. Then you can say the same is true for Fascist or Klan members. Which lead to completely segmented spheres of world views. Which leads to CW once there too far apart. Lucky dum net fight cool that shit down.
The "undesirables"? You're weird bro. Just say gay.
its spiteful mutant theory
@@theedgybear5538 it is a better word than pedos at least. And no one would disagree that they are undesirable.
@@theedgybear5538 I mean you're the one who was assuming that's what they meant lol, entirely on you
"Community Manager" is just another word for Commissar in this day and age.
And not the 40k ones...
EDIT: Also, Asmongold literally describes Soviet "Entryism" in which Communists infiltrate and subvert institutions.
It's literally the same playbook. These people are commies in deed, if not name.
Yeah, which is my main issue with the term "woke", its a cop-out for calling these people what they actually are, which is communists.
It is *always* important to properly identify the adversary, even if the realization is painful.
I love when these kinds of ppl start complaining because every time WITHOUT FAIL, if u listen closely u can tell they’re just projecting their own wrongdoings. It’s actually insane how common it is.
Unity change their policies to make you pay every user installs your game for only 0.20$. -> Game devs don’t like this stuff and starts to search a better Game Engine. -> Godot gets alot of support because of Unity new fees. -> One year passes and now Unity deletes the fees because it was a obvious really bad idea. -> Godot employees just Effed up everything by blocking on all people they don’t like or agree. -> Possible ending right now: Unity gets back the old Game Devs because of Godot bad management of social media?
Man, if I was a dev I think I'd pull my hair out lol.
@@roflBeck dude, Imagine you finished a game on unity, switch and spend time to learn to make future games based on godot instead, and then you have to switch back or look and learn a new one
that'd be sucks
@@Paxindica96 I know, the secondhand frustration is real.
@@Paxindica96 As someone who primarily works with Godot, this is concerning. Who knows where this will escalate, maybe it'll be like unreal's documentation rules.
She/they have to be held accountable for corporate sabotage.
Good rule of thumb: If you can tell what someone's politics are by their hairstyle, you probably shouldn't hire them.
This doesn't just apply to hairstyles, of course, but to any kind of visual signifier of ideological belonging.
Like the Great Sage Asmon of Gold said: "If you let a fox into your home, it's gonna do fox things."
And if you let an activist into your company, guess what, it's gonna do activist things.
"I consider your speech to be toxic vomit" is the most toxic vomit I've ever read in my life. The fucking irony.