The first arrival that we can see from this vantage point is the 4 minute mark. Theres 50% of the structure we cant see. I think your expectations are retarded.
Moorabbin is a suburb in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 15 km south-east of Melbourne's central business district. Its local government area is the City of Kingston.
Wow! Those totally useless firefighters went and got water on it in next to no time. Then went on to get it under control within minutes. And managed to achieve all that without taking any note of all the ‘useful’ advice being offered on RUclips. A massive fire? Don’t think so.
Don’t know about under control within minutes. The clip ended when the second and highest capacity hose was applied and it was just starting to make an impact on the side where presumably there was an adjoining property.
Within literally 62 seconds of arrival, the fire crew had a hose on the fire even if it didn't seem like much. The American crews would be waiting another couple of minutes before they decide to attach a line to a hydrant. Some difference in training there. Aussies 1 Yanks 0.
And look what that little garden hose did to the fire... next to nothing -Fire science and real world use has proven that speed of first delivery is not as important as GPM -Taking a minute longer to deliver more GPM (vs low GPM delivered sooner) has been proven to reduce fire damage -This is especially the case the more advanced the fire is upon arrival -Your reel line deployed at say 0:30 in might deliver 500 gallons by 5:30 -An 1.75 deployed at 1:00 will have delivered that same 500 gallons at 3:30; and nearly 1,000 gallons by 5:30 -Almost twice as much water in the same amount of time -A 2.5 deployed at 1:00 will deliver that 500 gallons at 2:40; and 1,500 gallons by 5:30 -About 3x as much water in the same amount of time even though it took a bit longer to deploy (using common averages) Taking maybe an extra 0:30-1:00 to deliver more GPM kills fire faster and result in less damage The same can be said for your use of combination nozzles instead of smooth bore tips. Both in lab tests and the real world, combo/fog patterns do not reduce heat nearly as fast as when using a HVLP smooth bore. The latter also greatly reduces air entrainment resulting in better fire conditions and a more survivable environment for victims as well as firefighters. Folks love to blow their holes about "speed" while not having a clue what they are even talking about let alone the well proven facts of fire science. PS As to your comment about "waiting to attach to a hydrant"... No one is waiting for anything so stop making yourself look foolish. Initial quick attack is always done with onboard water, there is no need to wait for a hydrant. It is typically the job of later arriving crews to tap a hydrant if needed. Again, stop making yourself look foolish.
@@aflaz171 "Wow his comment really injured you" -Well except for the fact that no emotion was presented... Oops 🤣 " I've never seen such a defensive response that smacked of so much bulldust" -Then it should be easy for you to *factually* refute... I'll be waiting 🤗
@Tax Payer Not sure how you conclude that my post was criticism compared to what others have posted? Enjoy the rest of your tax paying days and chill out 🙂
Tax Payer Wow, Someone pays taxes, how special!!! Thanks for telling everyone how special you are. Some people say so much yet so little. Anyway, do you think someone was done wrong here?
Nice fire trucks! Blue and red flashers are for police here in Canada while our fire trucks have red flashers and sometimes they can have a little orange flasher, for what reason? frankly i don't know.
Yeah around the late 1980s or early 90s, police, fire and ambulance went to red and blues in the state of Victoria Australia, before then police had only blues lights and ambulance and fire had red only.
Studies show that blue flashing lights are more effective at getting motorists attention then red flashing. Probably due to the abundance of red lights our brains become use to seeing it.
Chris There quite a number of fire trucks and ambulances in Australia with a single colour flash pattern (all red, all blue, all red etc...) would be interesting to see how that compares to blue lights only.
@@AJ-dv7hf Are you 100% sure about that. My understanding is that every state in Australia has mixed blues and reds across all official emergency service vehicles.
Fire Station 33 is 2.7km away, 4 minutes travel time according to Google maps. (obviously not code 1) They arrive on scene at 4:08 in the video. How long before the video starts did the first caller phone the brigade?
My guess is the first live reel was to protect those powerlines, note the 50mm coming off PT29 at the end of the video. Don’t know what the second reel from the heavy pumper would’ve been for. I wasn’t there, so just my speculation.
Wow ... they don’t look very professional Do they....it’s a shame they treat the volunteer firefighters like dirt and I’m sure of volunteers acted like this in the video they would have heaps to say that’s for sure
Pathetic attempt at attacking career staff. Did it ever occur to you those volunteers you love so much screw up? That being said you’ve not explained what went wrong in either this or the Melbourne tire fire video. Looking forward to your explanation Adam ❤️
Throttle Gals Magazine Australia They wanted hands off the CFA, then complain when staff leave the CFA, funny isn’t it? and of course members of the public think they know everything “CaUse I pAy yOur WaGes” :)
all those bystanders could have installed a line from those hidrants before the fire department arrived...instead they took out their phones and filmed the shit...
5+ Minutes too late. Whole structure is involved. This is why they say, the Fire Department of New York is the best in the world. If that incident happened in New York, you'd have a quicker response and more man power along with it.
All appliances were appropriately crewed, unlike NYC this part of industrial outer part of Melbourne is not next door to a fire station and the pumpers all arrived within the time frame. Commentary from the other part of the globe is not warranted, fire fighters have respect for each other world wide. Factory was fully involved and no person injured, just another fire. Take it easy Mr Responder.
Did it occur to you FRV is a much smaller department with much lower demand than FDNY? They still arrived within the 7.7 minute requirement, and there isn’t a station every couple of streets like NY, because there isn’t the demand to require it. But of course FDNY is the best department ever, never made a mistake, best training, best everything!!
Zoom in or go a lot closer. Your viewers' interest in footage of parked trucks and cars is guaranteed to be very limited. The backs and butts of other spectators are of even less interest.
Quit complaining...maybe the heat was to intensifying...good grief it is a fire. I think it was great coverage. Oh 1 more thing...listen to the explosions...staying far enough back was the wisest and smartest thing to do not knowing what this factory had in it and manufactured.
Since when was a 2” hoseline a garden hose? Besides, those hose reels are used pretty much everywhere in the world. You’ll find these trucks are similar to a lot of US trucks i.e 1000+ GPM pumps, 500-850gal tanks, MVA extrication gear, hose reels, truck mounted monitors etc, (bar the last truck with a 340gal water tank) Not to mention other trucks in use by FRV with 1300-2000 gpm pumps. Horse power is lower than most US trucks, but I believe they’re also lighter. So I think they could get away with less HP.
Good to see videoing in landscape, & kudos to the uploader.......great work!
Indeed, thankfully somebody using landscape, although the two people seen in front were filming in portrait.
One of my favourite vids to watch haha. Good vid
Looking nice them Scania's.
Here we go the next installment of youtube fire fighters
Great video
Dangerous, the brick wall showing separation all above the garage doors, wonder if it collapsed
Good point, good thing those lads moved back from it later on... (see second video)
Are the firefighters retained or wholetime? it seemed a long time vofore they got there, you'd have no chance trapped in a house fire.
Full time fire fighters.
The first arrival that we can see from this vantage point is the 4 minute mark. Theres 50% of the structure we cant see. I think your expectations are retarded.
Awesome footage
What Country is this?
It Victoria, Australia
@@glmike523 thanks!
Where is Moorabin located?
Moorabbin is a suburb in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 15 km south-east of Melbourne's central business district. Its local government area is the City of Kingston.
It's next to Bentleigh East
Wow!
Those totally useless firefighters went and got water on it in next to no time.
Then went on to get it under control within minutes.
And managed to achieve all that without taking any note of all the ‘useful’ advice being offered on RUclips.
A massive fire?
Don’t think so.
Don’t know about under control within minutes. The clip ended when the second and highest capacity hose was applied and it was just starting to make an impact on the side where presumably there was an adjoining property.
Within literally 62 seconds of arrival, the fire crew had a hose on the fire even if it didn't seem like much. The American crews would be waiting another couple of minutes before they decide to attach a line to a hydrant. Some difference in training there. Aussies 1 Yanks 0.
And look what that little garden hose did to the fire... next to nothing
-Fire science and real world use has proven that speed of first delivery is not as important as GPM
-Taking a minute longer to deliver more GPM (vs low GPM delivered sooner) has been proven to reduce fire damage
-This is especially the case the more advanced the fire is upon arrival
-Your reel line deployed at say 0:30 in might deliver 500 gallons by 5:30
-An 1.75 deployed at 1:00 will have delivered that same 500 gallons at 3:30; and nearly 1,000 gallons by 5:30
-Almost twice as much water in the same amount of time
-A 2.5 deployed at 1:00 will deliver that 500 gallons at 2:40; and 1,500 gallons by 5:30
-About 3x as much water in the same amount of time even though it took a bit longer to deploy
(using common averages)
Taking maybe an extra 0:30-1:00 to deliver more GPM kills fire faster and result in less damage
The same can be said for your use of combination nozzles instead of smooth bore tips. Both in lab tests and the real world, combo/fog patterns do not reduce heat nearly as fast as when using a HVLP smooth bore. The latter also greatly reduces air entrainment resulting in better fire conditions and a more survivable environment for victims as well as firefighters.
Folks love to blow their holes about "speed" while not having a clue what they are even talking about let alone the well proven facts of fire science.
PS
As to your comment about "waiting to attach to a hydrant"... No one is waiting for anything so stop making yourself look foolish. Initial quick attack is always done with onboard water, there is no need to wait for a hydrant. It is typically the job of later arriving crews to tap a hydrant if needed. Again, stop making yourself look foolish.
@@virgilhilts3924 Wow his comment really injured you. I've never seen such a defensive response that smacked of so much bulldust🤣
@@aflaz171
"Wow his comment really injured you"
-Well except for the fact that no emotion was presented... Oops 🤣
" I've never seen such a defensive response that smacked of so much bulldust"
-Then it should be easy for you to *factually* refute... I'll be waiting 🤗
That front wall is seriously compromised, This could have ended very badly.
Did anybody call the Fire Brigade or were they all too busy watching and/or filming?
Are all the critics on here firefighters? Just curious 🙂
British and Australian fire people or their buffs think WAY to highly of themselves.
@Tax Payer I have been called worse 🙂
@Tax Payer Not sure how you conclude that my post was criticism compared to what others have posted? Enjoy the rest of your tax paying days and chill out 🙂
Tax Payer Wow, Someone pays taxes, how special!!! Thanks for telling everyone how special you are. Some people say so much yet so little. Anyway, do you think someone was done wrong here?
It took a while but when ya did you kicked it good job
Who else thought that the white van would be toast?
Nice fire trucks! Blue and red flashers are for police here in Canada while our fire trucks have red flashers and sometimes they can have a little orange flasher, for what reason? frankly i don't know.
Yeah around the late 1980s or early 90s, police, fire and ambulance went to red and blues in the state of Victoria Australia, before then police had only blues lights and ambulance and fire had red only.
Studies show that blue flashing lights are more effective at getting motorists attention then red flashing. Probably due to the abundance of red lights our brains become use to seeing it.
Chris There quite a number of fire trucks and ambulances in Australia with a single colour flash pattern (all red, all blue, all red etc...) would be interesting to see how that compares to blue lights only.
@@AJ-dv7hf Are you 100% sure about that. My understanding is that every state in Australia has mixed blues and reds across all official emergency service vehicles.
that's a cooker
Must be quite a ways from the nearest Fire Department huh? To bad they can’t get the. An out of there
Fire Station 33 is 2.7km away, 4 minutes travel time according to Google maps. (obviously not code 1) They arrive on scene at 4:08 in the video.
How long before the video starts did the first caller phone the brigade?
Next closest stations are around 10+ mins away. First crew arrived within FRVs 7.7 minute standard from their closest station.
Man that building is totalled
Might as well go for a drive and check out the site over thr weekend.
Man that CE Lancer is sexy
Hahaha that knobhead in the Yaris gonna park there like nothing happening 🤣🤣🤣 unbelievable
Fire........😋 anyone know who the proud father is?
There is a fire department? These guys are terrible.
You're a vol, aren't you?
fire victoria adam
Fat lot of good running a hose reel out to attack an industrial fire
Bit of an expert on this, are you sport?
Its a HP reel
My guess is the first live reel was to protect those powerlines, note the 50mm coming off PT29 at the end of the video. Don’t know what the second reel from the heavy pumper would’ve been for. I wasn’t there, so just my speculation.
Took too long and bad setup of trucks
Oh shid not goot!
Another T and R.
Toast and roast
What the hell was that man doing
Dikke dikke scania
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Wow ... they don’t look very professional Do they....it’s a shame they treat the volunteer firefighters like dirt and I’m sure of volunteers acted like this in the video they would have heaps to say that’s for sure
Volunteers should have kept their noses out of the professional firefighters' pay and conditions, shouldn't they?
Pathetic attempt at attacking career staff. Did it ever occur to you those volunteers you love so much screw up? That being said you’ve not explained what went wrong in either this or the Melbourne tire fire video. Looking forward to your explanation Adam ❤️
Throttle Gals Magazine Australia They wanted hands off the CFA, then complain when staff leave the CFA, funny isn’t it? and of course members of the public think they know everything “CaUse I pAy yOur WaGes” :)
Vol's should have stayed out of staff business. Belt up, child.
all those bystanders could have installed a line from those hidrants before the fire department arrived...instead they took out their phones and filmed the shit...
Let the professionals who fight fire,, care for it. Nobody was trapped nobody was needing to be rescued...
Most bystanders don't keep a 30m length of 65mm hoseline with them....
@liviuvisan lol how much crack did you smoke before writing that comment??
5+ Minutes too late. Whole structure is involved. This is why they say, the Fire Department of New York is the best in the world. If that incident happened in New York, you'd have a quicker response and more man power along with it.
you smoking the good stuff, Chicago is the best!!!!! LA is second......;)
Fuck wit yank with no idea
All appliances were appropriately crewed, unlike NYC this part of industrial outer part of Melbourne is not next door to a fire station and the pumpers all arrived within the time frame. Commentary from the other part of the globe is not warranted, fire fighters have respect for each other world wide. Factory was fully involved and no person injured, just another fire. Take it easy Mr Responder.
Did it occur to you FRV is a much smaller department with much lower demand than FDNY? They still arrived within the 7.7 minute requirement, and there isn’t a station every couple of streets like NY, because there isn’t the demand to require it. But of course FDNY is the best department ever, never made a mistake, best training, best everything!!
Should have called them sooner. Thought of that, genius? another member of the public that thinks he knows everything
Zoom in or go a lot closer. Your viewers' interest in footage of parked trucks and cars is guaranteed to be very limited. The backs and butts of other spectators are of even less interest.
Quit complaining...maybe the heat was to intensifying...good grief it is a fire. I think it was great coverage. Oh 1 more thing...listen to the explosions...staying far enough back was the wisest and smartest thing to do not knowing what this factory had in it and manufactured.
Tonka trucks and garden hoses just like Europe.
And what trucks would you run as fleet manger....Kenworths or Macks?
Since when was a 2” hoseline a garden hose? Besides, those hose reels are used pretty much everywhere in the world. You’ll find these trucks are similar to a lot of US trucks i.e 1000+ GPM pumps, 500-850gal tanks, MVA extrication gear, hose reels, truck mounted monitors etc, (bar the last truck with a 340gal water tank) Not to mention other trucks in use by FRV with 1300-2000 gpm pumps.
Horse power is lower than most US trucks, but I believe they’re also lighter. So I think they could get away with less HP.
Ignorant comment. Pathetic.
Average firefighter deaths on duty in the US per year = 98
Average Firefighter deaths on duty in Australia per year = 2
Keep up the good work champ.
25 million vs 330 million. Hmm But why take chances? Just stay in the station and let things burn. Zero deaths.
Another curse and take Lords name in vain video. Otherwise it would be good.
Oh dear, someone offended your imaginary friend? 🤷♂️
TRUE