why cant all fandoms be like black roses :( they kindly told woosung he made a mistake, but say if another group uses a bad word or does something bad they go out of their way to not tell them about it and cancel them...
@@martinamaino_7438 I didn't know him or the group before this video. And yeah, the more a group becomes popular the more antis come out unfortunatly but I hope their fandom stays this way.
He’s not wrong. Back then a lot of slurs were being used like nobodies business. But I’m glad he got educated on how times have changed and you can’t just say those things anymore.
This is true. Back then when I was a kid like 10-15 years ago the R word was commonly used by all - a normal insult. However as time went on, people spoke about how that word was very offensive and wrong to say, and thru education, we learned that this is bad so people generally don't say it anymore. Of course some people are still learning now and even into adulthood, but thats ok as long as they learn.
even now people still use it A LOT. i've been seeing boys on tiktok call things they don't like the r slur so many times you would think we are still in 2015, it's insane
@@Juliana-ut1sq significa retardado. Lo usaban mucho para ofender a la gente que para ellos creían que estaban mensos. Hasta a los que nacieron con problemas cerebrales. Es muy ofensivo.
I’m proud of him for addressing it like that. He addressed his mistake, apologized for it, took actions to change his mistake, (not playing the song) and continued saying he will be more careful in the future. This is how people should apologize and they should be able to learn from their mistakes. Be like Woosung👏🏻🙂
@@oila6927 He acknowledged what he did wrong (using the r-word in his song Moon), said that he was sorry for using it, actively took steps to prevent the problem in the future (by not playing the song and not saying it aloud), and said he will continue to not use it and be mindful of it in the future. In English, the word r*tard is a slur used against people with intellectual disabilities and to insult/demean them. I hope this clarified it but all I did was paraphrase lol.
yeah, everybody here are saying the R-word without even telling me that it was offensive even my relatives. i think many people doesn't know about this so now me, woosung and many people are educated now.
Yea that is also the same 4 me. I never really knew until like months ago and ever since then I never said it anymore and whenever I hear it be said I correct them and tell them that’s it wrong 2 use that word. I also educate them on why it’s wrong 2 use it. But still I have relatives who use that word so much, and I try telling them not 2 and why but they don’t listen and go off being ignorant. It’s just the like f slur. Like the 1 that ppl use to down grade the lgbtq community. My sibling use that word and it really bothers me but they use it cus they just don’t care and r really ignorant. Even with them knowing the history of the words or the meanings and usage of them they don’t care.
I just don’t remember when or where I’ve heard it but after this apology, he performed this song with the word changed to ‘DISCARDED’ instead of that R word. What a man, Woosung Sir. I admire his humility. The fact that he loves this song so much but can’t sing it the same way without being reminded of it totally is felt. This song so chill tbh. 🥺
I love how he apologizes and has learned from his mistakes. His acknowledgment on this issue just shows what a great person he is. Makes me love and admire him even more ❤️
With the amount of celebrity apologies I forgot what a sincere apology was until I saw this and remembered. Maybe i’m delulu but i love him even more now
For people who don't understand why it's a bad word, well, for me. Growing up with handcape brother, I knew that word was very bad. People like to bully handcape people with the R word. It's very offensive. I hate whenever someone uses it, I even get sensitive when hearing it. It's not something you should use, please use dumb.
for people that want to know why it’s considered bad it’s cause originally that word was used to describe handicapped people in the medical field, eventually the public started to use it as a way to degrade people and bully handicapped people relentlessly. even if you put the bullying and harassment towards people who are handicapped aside, they word has become another way to say that someone is so stupid they must have some sort of disability (which is already bad)
Thanks for providing background. Looking at comments online and back from personal experience, this is indeed a taboo slur, but (for some reason?) not nearly as well-known as the slurs we are typically familiar with (regarding racism, mainly). There were some people around me who used this word very regularly, and so I did, too. It was only much, much later in life that I met someone who informed me of this being offensive. Overall, it seems like there's enough consensus among the general population to declare that 'the r word' is taboo, but only just barely...
Once again woosung proving he’s a man written by women. Still he can like his own song, and play it! He just shouldn’t say it! I love moon and I sing it with all my chest (ofc not that word).
i’m autistic and while i did feel :/// about the word being used i see how he has changed from this and learned why it wasn’t okay to use, showing growth from this is very important:) (ps i di have woosumg as one of my ults)
He's so precious 🤧. I have been on the receiving end of said word because I am disabled. I am so glad he apologised, though if he wanted to sing the song in the future he could mute the word or replace it with another... its an easy fix! If he wantedd it, its entirely up to him
I'm very proud of him for apologizing and taking steps to fix his mistake. Even people who spent they're whole life in America don't understand the hurt that word can cause. Unless they grew up with a special needs person like I did. I saw the tears in my brothers eyes every time someone used that word on him. I hate that word. But I could never hate Woosung. Not ever. Very kind and humble person. I even don't hate the song. I wonder is there a way to remake it without that word in there. Because it really is a great song otherwise.
i just became a fan last week and when i was binge-listening to his songs i was like ik he didn’t use that word and i can’t listen to wolf bc of that, i’m glad it’s bc he had no idea and he apologized.
I completely understand him I'm still in high school and where I live aka louisiana almost everyone says that luckily I chose to educate myself so I do not say it but the sad thing is most people still carry on with saying it so I'm clad he chose to actually learn from his mistakes
You can really tell how sincere his words are. Also lucky to have fans that understand completely and know he actually means it. Even though I may not be a fan of his, it's easy to read someone whether they mean something or not. I myself wouldn't have entirely blamed him for saying it, yes it is commonly said, before I'd used to say it too thinking it only meant "Stupid" because everyone said the word but know I understand. He's a good person for being allowed to listen and be educated by others.
When I first heard that term in the song I was surprised and I'm glad Black Roses helped him understand. This helps me a lot too because Moon was ruined for me for a while and I didn't like listening to it because of the use of the r-word after a while. But this might get me back into listening to it with this in mind. I can relate to him a little bit tho, he's not far from my age and growing up it was a term used very loosely until I learned as I got older how bad it is. Good for Woosung for acknowledging this and apologizing 🙏
Yeah same. I was so surprised and shocked then I first heard the word in his song. I even had to look it up, if I listened right, because English isn't my first language. I didn't know how to feel about Woosung, but now I can listen to him again with a good feeling. I never knew this word before until the day I learned this word because I read somewhere that it is a slur and I thought that everybody knew that it was bad, because I instantly learned it as a really bad word, that's why I was especially shocked that Woosung used it.
That’s great he apologize and yes there were alot of words back then n growing up. You hear it everywhere. But you learn. He apologized n that was great of him.
I didn’t know the word was a bad word either. Kids at school used it a lot like stupid and dumb. It’s really annoying how this is normal for kids to say, or at least until ten years ago?
I also feel bad for sam he made a whole song and then used the word and he didn't know it was offensive to some ppl 😭 and now he don't want to like his own song that he worked hard on
@@frog5890 he probably didn’t feel the need to research it because he thought he already knew the meaning and that it wasn’t disrespectful. if it was a word he didn’t know of and wasn’t familiar with then maybe it would be different
I really feel you on this. 'Moon' is also my favorite of the album. It's just so unfortunate that he happened to use a word that isn't as well-known for being a taboo slur. There are many who are aware, but also many who aren't...
The only reason I found out retarded was a "bad" word was through social media. I never grew up being told it's bad. Kids would say it left and right like the words stupid and dumb. It was never a bad word.
I want to say thank you. My little sister had Down's Syndrome and suffered because of the prejudice of ableism in our society. As soon as she was born, when I was only seven, that word became taboo in my life. Anyone joking around, calling people that word, would get a little lesson from me on its meaning. This has followed me my entire life, even after my sister passed away. It makes me livid that people are still using it. I have had to jump down my 25 yo son's throat lately to remind him (and for him to remind his friends) that word is forbidden in our home. Woosung is a very good man for apologizing publically the way he did, and I appreciate it very much. 💜
the song is so good but whenever that word is sang I’m so uncomfortable. I was worried that he didn’t care but I’m really glad he learned the history and apologized💓
He really did stop the music and straight up apologized. We all make mistakes but not everyone chooses to learn from it. I look up to Woosung so much 👍
I’m really glad he educated himself and his fans did a great job at correcting him. A friendly reminder for everyone, the disability community is the only community anyone can become part of at any give second.
I knew it's offensive but didn't know it's that controversial because it's being used a lot, didn't know it's a slur. Woosung actually educated me thru this vid lol.
Im like him,, im british and growing up it was so common for people to use. like people used it all the time just like the word 'idiot'and we were never taught other wise; never being educaed about the fact that its a slur until literally november 2020. like in western countries its so common for people to use it without meaning harm to affected groups not realsing what it actually means but THANKFULLY i am educated now just like he is, i rlly dont think he was ever at fault here (i mean didnt mean any harm or offense) so im so happy with the way the fandom dealt with itttt :))
It's my first time knowing that there's something like this like r word. Just moments ago I found out what is r word. In my country we can say that word like people speak that word but I'm not gone use it hear bcoz I found people don't like it. U found something new.
Tbh I'm 22, i never knew this word was problematic until like 2019/2020 because people on Twitter cancelled some celebrity for using It, to me It was the same as idot, stupid since everybody in France uses It like that
put your hand up if you called all your friends and siblings this in middle school. One day my mom yelled at me and I was "BUT EVERYONE USES IT!" and after that I stopped when she went into detail I was like "Oh crap" It was a super common thing at my school.
Actually it's not his fault alone. Aren't there managers who should make sure that things like that doesn't happen???? I'm sorry for him that he had to deal with all the backlash..... And that because of this, he isn't able to like his favorite song anymore......
Honestly, a lot of slurs have been used as normal words a long time back, even though those words can evolve into slurs. I thought that the r-word simply meant “stupid” or “dumb” and I didn’t know how offensive it was until I was 13 (when Jaemin’s ableism scandal came up). But I am glad he educated himself, and realized his mistake.
Pues a mi me encanta esta canción tal y como es, de hecho me encanta q se suelte una que otra palabrota en sus canciones 🤣😂. El que no le guste que no la escuche. The Rose, WooSung los amo💯❤️🥀
I wish he would change the word bc Moon was my favorite song from the album too but I don’t listen to it at all bc of that word :( but it’s not his fault. Very responsible of him. I just discovered him like 2 days ago and he’s close to being an ult
I'd argue "handicapped" is also kinda ableist, but... I'm glad he acknowledged this bcs the song made me really uncomfy and I was disappointed when I listened to it. Woosung had always been a supportive person, so it threw me off realizing what he was saying there. There are so many other ableist words that are still pretty normalized and it is a CHOICE not to educate yourselves about it. At least he listened. I do hope not only the slurs but also the MENTALITY changes here. I love Woosung and I am going to keep my hopes up for a possitive change and growth from this experience. But pls, take this as an example to be more conscious abt what your words and actions, especially as privileged neurotypical ppl. :/
Damn tbh I also didn't know bout that word being offensive until I found out bout his song, like him even it was used alotttt in my highschool days and Im not sure but I think many in my community aren't aware of it.
He’s true when was a little younger maybe 2-3 years ago everyone would say the r slur on a daily basis as another word for ‘stupid’ without actually understanding the meaning of the word I have obviously learnt why I cant say it and that it’s not an acceptable word
The song got my attention bcoz of that word. I was like 'wow that threw me off guard' and find myself searching for the lyrics. Now I'm addicted to it.
Why is everyone surprised it was a word used for us people with disabilities and now everyone uses it to call stuff stupid WE ARE NOT STUPID AND LESS THEN
@@frog5890 yeah i'm sorry the comments are shit under this why they're all saying i didn't know it was bad and idolizing him for apologizing.. you're not less than and i hope these people don't hurt your feelings you deserve the world!
@@nadaizzatuljannah8212 he didn't apologize for it you seem to not watch apology analysis videos on how to get around apologizing without taking real accountability but he used a strategy of separation from his past self as well as lack of intention. saying that was the old him and he didn't know doesnt change the fact that he never said "i'm sorry neurodivergent people and people with disabilities for saying the r word i'll work harder in the future" he went around true accountability and apologizing by not acknowledging the people he hurt at all or what it actually means. this apology screams i don't actually care but people are giving me a bad image and i don't want that
Wow people in my school use that word left and right everywhere even a teacher told a student what it means cos its offensive against disabled ppl but still they use it cos they dont give a damn
It originally wasn’t even a bad thing, it was a medical term for a disability but people started to use it to be synonymous with stupid or dumb in a degrading way and they literally had to change the medical term because of it so it’s not a great word to use
@@nevadawalker850 In that past when it was used that way it was still used in a way to generalize and degrade those people. its like how words like mongrel used to be medical terms to describe a person with downsyndrome. yes it was a medical term but it was used by doctors even as a negative thing so
He didn’t need to apologize. It’s also his song. Don’t like it, don’t listen. He didn’t mean it the way taken by the few. Also yes, when we were kids people didn’t self censor. Most of the time, they weren’t used against people in serious ways. Obviously some people meant it but they’d still be using it. Why put someone else’s intentions on another person. People also ruined his favourite song. Nice😒 How he meant it is what matters. Stop putting your thoughts and feelings on other people and get back to where we try to understand what someone meant without putting words in their mouths, or someone else’s intentions on their shoulders.
It was always been and always be a bad word who people normalized that change on time, its a portion of our culture that happens. Its out of the way of us be in control of that its how society drives itself.
Honestly it's not even considered a slur in daily life in the uk for me except on the internet and it's something I said when calling someone stupid but I can see why it's offensive. I don't see myself saying it in the future but I think it's hard to treat it like a slur when everyone else doesn't :/
the r slur was used as a medical term a while ago. it's possible that your textbooks are old so that's why but the word has gained so many bad connotations that is best to avoid it and replace it for mentally hadicapped or something similar.
I know it's too late but I just learned who woosung is and how amazing a singer he is. I just don't really understand why the word retarded is offensive (he used the words fuck and bitch which are even more offensive) such stupid crowds . Can't get it we even Arabs use it in our daily Convo. Such stupid commets. I don't think woosung should apologize or even hate this song for people who are that stupid.
It's a slur against disabled people, not just a bad word. It's been used against them for ages. Kinda like the n word. You shouldn't be saying it unless you can reclaim it
@@BEOMIEPRINCESS I'm really sorry that was insensitive of me. I should've took that into consideration before commenting. I'm sorry for comparing them. But the r word is different from "stupid" or "idiot" because it used to be used as a medical term for disabled people. It's used against them in a bad way, so wouldn't that make it a slur towards disabled people?
It’s kind of like a word that is used against nd people maybe you can search up “what is the ‘r’ word?” On google or RUclips and see what pops up. Sorry if this was not helpful. Also don’t try and say someone is a r word because it can be very offensive 😢 Just don’t say the word because it can be offensive sorry for the sentence and my English
Well for me as a Belgian it’s quite obvious that this word isn’t exactly a nice word to say. Retarded finds its origin in the French language. Retarder= to delay, which not only means the delay in time but also the delay of a person’s mental responsiveness. So using this word is both offensive and disrespectful. Please be thoughtful about the words you use when you don’t really know their significance. Thank you. Greetings from Germany/ Belgium
Plus I’m pretty Sure it was meant to be Offensive to the person he’s talking about. Why feel offended over Nonsense. It should Only be offensive to people who doesn’t fit the description.
I know that I don't really have any say in this because this doesn't effect/apply to me (if that makes sense) but I hear teens my age use it all the time when they're calling their friends stupid. I doubt everyone is like this but most of my friends/ the people I know only use it when they're talking to people they're really close to and would never say it to someone if they thought it would offend them. I don't think anyone would/should go around and get offended by someone calling their best friend that is the friend isn't effected in any negative way by it. But that's just my opinion (Sorry, this got long)
@@winwinsonelineinregular3603 like you said, you have no say in this. it's literally like the n word. for example, if a white person greeted their white friend by saying "hey my nigga" (im black btw) , you'd find it inappropriate right? even tho the friend isn't black so they wouldn't be offended by that word. it's literally the same logic as yours. you shouldn't say it, whether you meant it as an offense or not, if you're not black
the word is retard/retarded - for people in the comments who don't know what's the r-word . it's actually used as term to describe people who are mentally-slow in development but more often now it's used as an insult by people & it came to a point where it's very less used for medical purposes and used more as an insult . so just be mindful when using it in context.
Retard in hungarian is 'retardált' (means exactly the same thing) which is not a bad word at all here. We actually use it a lot instead of 'mentally ill' for example.. It's a word which contains all of the speciall needs people like deaf or handicap people and this word is def not worse than the other, we use it in text books too, sometimes people use this word to curse but it's like asking someone 'are you deaf?' when they don't hear something.. This is why we don't think about zhis word as something bad Because of this, I used to say 'retard' quite often in english too and I never seemed to realise that it's a bad word... Is it actually bad or people are just sensitive? It's a honest question, don't come at me.. Please only answer if you or someone you know is in special need, do they mind if we use this word?
Yuph i was really shocked when i heard the song, is good to know that he's sorry couse we have been there once, we were (in one point in our lives) stupid :v
Retard was never a bad word, it was the same as saying sugar disease When people never had a substitute for learning disorders they used Retard How we've given the word a bad meaning is on us not on him so it's all good
you could've looked at the rest of the comments but i'll copy and paste this here the word r*tard/r*tarded (he said r*tarded in the song), its a slur used to discriminate against disabled and neurodivergent people, therefore only disabled and neurodivergent people are allowed to say it
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why cant all fandoms be like black roses :( they kindly told woosung he made a mistake, but say if another group uses a bad word or does something bad they go out of their way to not tell them about it and cancel them...
probably because the rose isn't that popular yk, so there really aren't any antis trying to cancel them luckily
@@martinamaino_7438 I didn't know him or the group before this video. And yeah, the more a group becomes popular the more antis come out unfortunatly but I hope their fandom stays this way.
@@talarv9026 I hope that too, cause this fandom has always been peaceful and lovely, so yeah I hope it stays like this :)
indeed
what is R-word? I do not speak English
He’s not wrong. Back then a lot of slurs were being used like nobodies business. But I’m glad he got educated on how times have changed and you can’t just say those things anymore.
This is true. Back then when I was a kid like 10-15 years ago the R word was commonly used by all - a normal insult. However as time went on, people spoke about how that word was very offensive and wrong to say, and thru education, we learned that this is bad so people generally don't say it anymore. Of course some people are still learning now and even into adulthood, but thats ok as long as they learn.
even now people still use it A LOT. i've been seeing boys on tiktok call things they don't like the r slur so many times you would think we are still in 2015, it's insane
sorry i not speak ingles who is R-word
@@Juliana-ut1sq significa retardado. Lo usaban mucho para ofender a la gente que para ellos creían que estaban mensos. Hasta a los que nacieron con problemas cerebrales. Es muy ofensivo.
@@kt334it wasn’t okay just because y’all used it. No one clocked you was all. It hurt the rest of us people said the shit to seriously
I’m proud of him for addressing it like that. He addressed his mistake, apologized for it, took actions to change his mistake, (not playing the song) and continued saying he will be more careful in the future. This is how people should apologize and they should be able to learn from their mistakes. Be like Woosung👏🏻🙂
My native language is not English. That's why I don't understand. Could you please explain more clearly?
@@oila6927 He acknowledged what he did wrong (using the r-word in his song Moon), said that he was sorry for using it, actively took steps to prevent the problem in the future (by not playing the song and not saying it aloud), and said he will continue to not use it and be mindful of it in the future. In English, the word r*tard is a slur used against people with intellectual disabilities and to insult/demean them. I hope this clarified it but all I did was paraphrase lol.
@@chiquita.milenita thank you so much! Great job clarifying🥺💗
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yeah, everybody here are saying the R-word without even telling me that it was offensive even my relatives. i think many people doesn't know about this so now me, woosung and many people are educated now.
Yea that is also the same 4 me. I never really knew until like months ago and ever since then I never said it anymore and whenever I hear it be said I correct them and tell them that’s it wrong 2 use that word. I also educate them on why it’s wrong 2 use it. But still I have relatives who use that word so much, and I try telling them not 2 and why but they don’t listen and go off being ignorant. It’s just the like f slur. Like the 1 that ppl use to down grade the lgbtq community. My sibling use that word and it really bothers me but they use it cus they just don’t care and r really ignorant. Even with them knowing the history of the words or the meanings and usage of them they don’t care.
what word is that r word???? i dont know
@@chinitagirl1394 detarded but replace the first letter with an r
@@justonejoon3082 thanks!
What represents the r letter.
This is probably the most genuine apologies I've ever seen. I also didn't know about it until today. It's good to see him educating others now
and it’s so rare wen fandoms are actually addressing issues with their idols respectively, so glad he addressed it
I just don’t remember when or where I’ve heard it but after this apology, he performed this song with the word changed to ‘DISCARDED’ instead of that R word. What a man, Woosung Sir. I admire his humility. The fact that he loves this song so much but can’t sing it the same way without being reminded of it totally is felt. This song so chill tbh. 🥺
Wow I never knew that word was a bad word. I'm just now learning it now.
What is the r word?
@@lauraeesabel look it up on google, i searched it (i didn't know either)
@@lauraeesabel detard replace first word with r
we all learn everyday and it doesnt stop
a long time ago, i have said it a few times thinking it meant idiot but now knowing its a slur, i feel so guilty
I love how he apologizes and has learned from his mistakes. His acknowledgment on this issue just shows what a great person he is. Makes me love and admire him even more ❤️
With the amount of celebrity apologies I forgot what a sincere apology was until I saw this and remembered.
Maybe i’m delulu but i love him even more now
For people who don't understand why it's a bad word, well, for me. Growing up with handcape brother, I knew that word was very bad. People like to bully handcape people with the R word. It's very offensive. I hate whenever someone uses it, I even get sensitive when hearing it. It's not something you should use, please use dumb.
thank you for educating me. i didnt know that before
What is the r word? I'm sorry I don't know
@@gehnakoul9837 r****ded. replace the asterisks with "etar". that's the r word
@@vantebey724 ohhh thank you so much for telling me. I didn't know it was a bad word. Now I'm aware :)
@@gehnakoul9837 no problem :)
for people that want to know why it’s considered bad it’s cause originally that word was used to describe handicapped people in the medical field, eventually the public started to use it as a way to degrade people and bully handicapped people relentlessly.
even if you put the bullying and harassment towards people who are handicapped aside, they word has become another way to say that someone is so stupid they must have some sort of disability (which is already bad)
Thanks for providing background. Looking at comments online and back from personal experience, this is indeed a taboo slur, but (for some reason?) not nearly as well-known as the slurs we are typically familiar with (regarding racism, mainly). There were some people around me who used this word very regularly, and so I did, too. It was only much, much later in life that I met someone who informed me of this being offensive. Overall, it seems like there's enough consensus among the general population to declare that 'the r word' is taboo, but only just barely...
Once again woosung proving he’s a man written by women. Still he can like his own song, and play it! He just shouldn’t say it! I love moon and I sing it with all my chest (ofc not that word).
What's 'man written by women' means?
@@mallowbleu8289 i searched it up on google, and it says 'men written by women is an expression meaning that a man is truly a good person'
i’m autistic and while i did feel :/// about the word being used i see how he has changed from this and learned why it wasn’t okay to use, showing growth from this is very important:) (ps i di have woosumg as one of my ults)
im so glad he owned up to it and didnt just ignore it
He's so precious 🤧. I have been on the receiving end of said word because I am disabled. I am so glad he apologised, though if he wanted to sing the song in the future he could mute the word or replace it with another... its an easy fix! If he wantedd it, its entirely up to him
I'm very proud of him for apologizing and taking steps to fix his mistake. Even people who spent they're whole life in America don't understand the hurt that word can cause. Unless they grew up with a special needs person like I did. I saw the tears in my brothers eyes every time someone used that word on him. I hate that word. But I could never hate Woosung. Not ever. Very kind and humble person. I even don't hate the song. I wonder is there a way to remake it without that word in there. Because it really is a great song otherwise.
i had no idea this word was offensive, thank god the fandom was super chill about the issue.
What’s the word tho? 😂
What does r word even mean .?.😭
@@howuknowimnotbig506 i searched it and the word is « retarded » I think and it means not Normal mentally or physically I guess.
i love seeing him growing and learning, that´s good
i just became a fan last week and when i was binge-listening to his songs i was like ik he didn’t use that word and i can’t listen to wolf bc of that, i’m glad it’s bc he had no idea and he apologized.
Moon is still my favorite song.
honestly same, lmao
Agreed
that's ok as long as u don't use the word
Yes I just omit that word whenever I sing it in public
"Are from target?" Instead of the slur
I completely understand him I'm still in high school and where I live aka louisiana almost everyone says that luckily I chose to educate myself so I do not say it but the sad thing is most people still carry on with saying it so I'm clad he chose to actually learn from his mistakes
yessss one more person in louisiana who listens to kpop
Wow I never knew that word is bad 😭
@Vanillity the Demon same lmfao
Its is, especially for handcape people. I have special needs brother, and I hate when people use that word to him.
What was the word?
Y'all GOT to be kidding me.
@@hbic3 I didnt know it was bad either, but its because my friends and family tend to use it a lot when talking to each other
I didn't even know the r word was a thing, I'm glad I know now, definitely heard people say it openly
Woosung is an amazing beautiful person.
I'm so dumb. I thought this was clickbait...... I didn't know there was an R Word..... Oof
You can really tell how sincere his words are. Also lucky to have fans that understand completely and know he actually means it. Even though I may not be a fan of his, it's easy to read someone whether they mean something or not. I myself wouldn't have entirely blamed him for saying it, yes it is commonly said, before I'd used to say it too thinking it only meant "Stupid" because everyone said the word but know I understand. He's a good person for being allowed to listen and be educated by others.
i love him
When I first heard that term in the song I was surprised and I'm glad Black Roses helped him understand. This helps me a lot too because Moon was ruined for me for a while and I didn't like listening to it because of the use of the r-word after a while. But this might get me back into listening to it with this in mind.
I can relate to him a little bit tho, he's not far from my age and growing up it was a term used very loosely until I learned as I got older how bad it is. Good for Woosung for acknowledging this and apologizing 🙏
Yeah same. I was so surprised and shocked then I first heard the word in his song. I even had to look it up, if I listened right, because English isn't my first language. I didn't know how to feel about Woosung, but now I can listen to him again with a good feeling. I never knew this word before until the day I learned this word because I read somewhere that it is a slur and I thought that everybody knew that it was bad, because I instantly learned it as a really bad word, that's why I was especially shocked that Woosung used it.
sorry I'm not very good at English but is the r word you're talking about is "bitch"?
@@jasminewilson1721 no it's a derogatory term for people with disabilities. It's in the chorus
That’s great he apologize and yes there were alot of words back then n growing up. You hear it everywhere. But you learn. He apologized n that was great of him.
I didn’t know the word was a bad word either. Kids at school used it a lot like stupid and dumb. It’s really annoying how this is normal for kids to say, or at least until ten years ago?
I also feel bad for sam he made a whole song and then used the word and he didn't know it was offensive to some ppl 😭 and now he don't want to like his own song that he worked hard on
So what should of researched
Ikrrr like he worked so hard on it and it's a rlyyy good song. Man I feel bad for him
@@ruqaya2638 same
@@frog5890 he probably didn’t feel the need to research it because he thought he already knew the meaning and that it wasn’t disrespectful. if it was a word he didn’t know of and wasn’t familiar with then maybe it would be different
I really feel you on this. 'Moon' is also my favorite of the album. It's just so unfortunate that he happened to use a word that isn't as well-known for being a taboo slur. There are many who are aware, but also many who aren't...
The only reason I found out retarded was a "bad" word was through social media. I never grew up being told it's bad. Kids would say it left and right like the words stupid and dumb. It was never a bad word.
No it's a slur against disabled people
its a slur shut up
@@anjanj3923 um you shutup
@@winniethepooh8353 its literally a slur
@@winniethepooh8353 it is a slur though :|
I want to say thank you. My little sister had Down's Syndrome and suffered because of the prejudice of ableism in our society. As soon as she was born, when I was only seven, that word became taboo in my life. Anyone joking around, calling people that word, would get a little lesson from me on its meaning. This has followed me my entire life, even after my sister passed away. It makes me livid that people are still using it. I have had to jump down my 25 yo son's throat lately to remind him (and for him to remind his friends) that word is forbidden in our home. Woosung is a very good man for apologizing publically the way he did, and I appreciate it very much. 💜
I love you sam
the song is so good but whenever that word is sang I’m so uncomfortable. I was worried that he didn’t care but I’m really glad he learned the history and apologized💓
I used to use this word all the time until someone told me what it actually meant.. I don't use it anymore.
I'm loving him more 💖
He really did stop the music and straight up apologized. We all make mistakes but not everyone chooses to learn from it. I look up to Woosung so much 👍
I’m really glad he educated himself and his fans did a great job at correcting him.
A friendly reminder for everyone, the disability community is the only community anyone can become part of at any give second.
*given
I knew it's offensive but didn't know it's that controversial because it's being used a lot, didn't know it's a slur.
Woosung actually educated me thru this vid lol.
Im like him,, im british and growing up it was so common for people to use. like people used it all the time just like the word 'idiot'and we were never taught other wise; never being educaed about the fact that its a slur until literally november 2020. like in western countries its so common for people to use it without meaning harm to affected groups not realsing what it actually means but THANKFULLY i am educated now just like he is, i rlly dont think he was ever at fault here (i mean didnt mean any harm or offense) so im so happy with the way the fandom dealt with itttt :))
It's my first time knowing that there's something like this like r word. Just moments ago I found out what is r word. In my country we can say that word like people speak that word but I'm not gone use it hear bcoz I found people don't like it. U found something new.
Okay I had no idea that r word is a slur. I never used it but heard it here and there and didn’t think much of it. I’m glad I found out.
Tbh I'm 22, i never knew this word was problematic until like 2019/2020 because people on Twitter cancelled some celebrity for using It, to me It was the same as idot, stupid since everybody in France uses It like that
Respect dude :)
put your hand up if you called all your friends and siblings this in middle school. One day my mom yelled at me and I was "BUT EVERYONE USES IT!" and after that I stopped when she went into detail I was like "Oh crap" It was a super common thing at my school.
whatever it was Lazy by woosung the rose has a special place in my heart periodttt
Actually it's not his fault alone.
Aren't there managers who should make sure that things like that doesn't happen????
I'm sorry for him that he had to deal with all the backlash.....
And that because of this, he isn't able to like his favorite song anymore......
Honestly, a lot of slurs have been used as normal words a long time back, even though those words can evolve into slurs. I thought that the r-word simply meant “stupid” or “dumb” and I didn’t know how offensive it was until I was 13 (when Jaemin’s ableism scandal came up).
But I am glad he educated himself, and realized his mistake.
That sucks cuz it's my favorite song too
Pues a mi me encanta esta canción tal y como es, de hecho me encanta q se suelte una que otra palabrota en sus canciones 🤣😂. El que no le guste que no la escuche. The Rose, WooSung los amo💯❤️🥀
Everyone talking about those R word but i still dont know what the R WORD IS 😢
Me too.. No clue
Same :/
R e t a r d
I wish he would change the word bc Moon was my favorite song from the album too but I don’t listen to it at all bc of that word :( but it’s not his fault. Very responsible of him. I just discovered him like 2 days ago and he’s close to being an ult
I'd argue "handicapped" is also kinda ableist, but...
I'm glad he acknowledged this bcs the song made me really uncomfy and I was disappointed when I listened to it. Woosung had always been a supportive person, so it threw me off realizing what he was saying there. There are so many other ableist words that are still pretty normalized and it is a CHOICE not to educate yourselves about it. At least he listened. I do hope not only the slurs but also the MENTALITY changes here.
I love Woosung and I am going to keep my hopes up for a possitive change and growth from this experience. But pls, take this as an example to be more conscious abt what your words and actions, especially as privileged neurotypical ppl. :/
Damn tbh I also didn't know bout that word being offensive until I found out bout his song, like him even it was used alotttt in my highschool days and Im not sure but I think many in my community aren't aware of it.
He’s true when was a little younger maybe 2-3 years ago everyone would say the r slur on a daily basis as another word for ‘stupid’ without actually understanding the meaning of the word I have obviously learnt why I cant say it and that it’s not an acceptable word
my mom calls me that everyday...
The song got my attention bcoz of that word. I was like 'wow that threw me off guard' and find myself searching for the lyrics. Now I'm addicted to it.
It's kinda sexy 😅
What is the r word?
what was the r word??
@@chocochip4992 he used "retarded" in the song
The word is retard for anyone who does know
I’m also surprised that that R word is offensive....
Why is everyone surprised it was a word used for us people with disabilities and now everyone uses it to call stuff stupid WE ARE NOT STUPID AND LESS THEN
@@frog5890 yeah i'm sorry the comments are shit under this why they're all saying i didn't know it was bad and idolizing him for apologizing.. you're not less than and i hope these people don't hurt your feelings you deserve the world!
@@tailss3961 its really bad but its even worse if he didnt apologize for it tho
@@nadaizzatuljannah8212 he didn't apologize for it you seem to not watch apology analysis videos on how to get around apologizing without taking real accountability but he used a strategy of separation from his past self as well as lack of intention. saying that was the old him and he didn't know doesnt change the fact that he never said "i'm sorry neurodivergent people and people with disabilities for saying the r word i'll work harder in the future" he went around true accountability and apologizing by not acknowledging the people he hurt at all or what it actually means. this apology screams i don't actually care but people are giving me a bad image and i don't want that
@@tailss3961 no it doesnt, but if you feel that way
accountability is cool
Wow people in my school use that word left and right everywhere even a teacher told a student what it means cos its offensive against disabled ppl but still they use it cos they dont give a damn
Yeah that word is used so much in the UK as well, like yeah :/
I'm not sure how that's offensive but props to Sammy for apologizing.
It’s offensive because it is a word used against people with disabilities which describes us as stupid and less then.... look up the definition..
@@frog5890 I wish people understood this. I hate the word so much.
It originally wasn’t even a bad thing, it was a medical term for a disability but people started to use it to be synonymous with stupid or dumb in a degrading way and they literally had to change the medical term because of it so it’s not a great word to use
@@nevadawalker850 In that past when it was used that way it was still used in a way to generalize and degrade those people. its like how words like mongrel used to be medical terms to describe a person with downsyndrome. yes it was a medical term but it was used by doctors even as a negative thing so
Who is sammy?
I don't care about that word,I care more that this lyric might be his story
almost all black roses have forgiven him for a simple mistake + an apology but other fandoms are continuing to cancel him :(
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Ya the r word was used reallllllyyyy often up into a few years ago
I still like the song :p
i didnt know....
He didn’t need to apologize. It’s also his song. Don’t like it, don’t listen. He didn’t mean it the way taken by the few.
Also yes, when we were kids people didn’t self censor. Most of the time, they weren’t used against people in serious ways. Obviously some people meant it but they’d still be using it. Why put someone else’s intentions on another person. People also ruined his favourite song. Nice😒
How he meant it is what matters. Stop putting your thoughts and feelings on other people and get back to where we try to understand what someone meant without putting words in their mouths, or someone else’s intentions on their shoulders.
It was always been and always be a bad word who people normalized that change on time, its a portion of our culture that happens.
Its out of the way of us be in control of that its how society drives itself.
Honestly it's not even considered a slur in daily life in the uk for me except on the internet and it's something I said when calling someone stupid but I can see why it's offensive. I don't see myself saying it in the future but I think it's hard to treat it like a slur when everyone else doesn't :/
what is the R word?
R*tarded, some people have written it out fully in the comments so you can check there if you still don’t get it.
Hope that helped :)
yoo Im handicaped and I never thought it would be a bad word tho😂
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME THE NAME OF THE SONG OF THE BEGINNING
Face by woosung!!🖤
A genuine question "is it okay to use MENTALLY R* PERSON?" cuz it is all over my school textbook
The r word is a medical term , so if you're using it for medical research or purpose then it's fine ig . Idk tho...
the r slur was used as a medical term a while ago. it's possible that your textbooks are old so that's why but the word has gained so many bad connotations that is best to avoid it and replace it for mentally hadicapped or something similar.
@@camila-qj9ch ok ty
whar's an r word??
Someone please tell me what the r word is
can some one tell me what is this r word？
¿R word? Ayuda, no entiendo nada-
Kim Woosung ish Right.
I know it's too late but I just learned who woosung is and how amazing a singer he is. I just don't really understand why the word retarded is offensive (he used the words fuck and bitch which are even more offensive) such stupid crowds . Can't get it we even Arabs use it in our daily Convo. Such stupid commets. I don't think woosung should apologize or even hate this song for people who are that stupid.
Realy bad letter R word now i know
What word?
what is this word?
what is r word 😳
I’m pretty sure we all say the r-word without knowing and it’s rude to call disable people that so why is it an offensive word
It's a slur against disabled people, not just a bad word. It's been used against them for ages. Kinda like the n word. You shouldn't be saying it unless you can reclaim it
@@BEOMIEPRINCESS I'm really sorry that was insensitive of me. I should've took that into consideration before commenting. I'm sorry for comparing them. But the r word is different from "stupid" or "idiot" because it used to be used as a medical term for disabled people. It's used against them in a bad way, so wouldn't that make it a slur towards disabled people?
whats the r word
What's the r word? I'm scared if I use it
It’s kind of like a word that is used against nd people maybe you can search up “what is the ‘r’ word?” On google or RUclips and see what pops up. Sorry if this was not helpful. Also don’t try and say someone is a r word because it can be very offensive 😢 Just don’t say the word because it can be offensive sorry for the sentence and my English
Well for me as a Belgian it’s quite obvious that this word isn’t exactly a nice word to say. Retarded finds its origin in the French language. Retarder= to delay, which not only means the delay in time but also the delay of a person’s mental responsiveness. So using this word is both offensive and disrespectful. Please be thoughtful about the words you use when you don’t really know their significance. Thank you. Greetings from Germany/ Belgium
Im autistic and i couldn't care less that he said it because i literally hear everyone saying it. Don't worry sweetie its not just you :)
Plus I’m pretty Sure it was meant to be Offensive to the person he’s talking about. Why feel offended over Nonsense. It should Only be offensive to people who doesn’t fit the description.
Um I’m also autistic and I personally can’t stand that word, the fact that everyone uses it upsets me the most
@@kingsolarisnotofthisworld5982 the r slur literally is used against us with disabilities so yes it is aimed at us
I know that I don't really have any say in this because this doesn't effect/apply to me (if that makes sense) but I hear teens my age use it all the time when they're calling their friends stupid. I doubt everyone is like this but most of my friends/ the people I know only use it when they're talking to people they're really close to and would never say it to someone if they thought it would offend them. I don't think anyone would/should go around and get offended by someone calling their best friend that is the friend isn't effected in any negative way by it. But that's just my opinion (Sorry, this got long)
@@winwinsonelineinregular3603 like you said, you have no say in this. it's literally like the n word. for example, if a white person greeted their white friend by saying "hey my nigga" (im black btw) , you'd find it inappropriate right? even tho the friend isn't black so they wouldn't be offended by that word. it's literally the same logic as yours. you shouldn't say it, whether you meant it as an offense or not, if you're not black
the word is retard/retarded - for people in the comments who don't know what's the r-word . it's actually used as term to describe people who are mentally-slow in development but more often now it's used as an insult by people & it came to a point where it's very less used for medical purposes and used more as an insult . so just be mindful when using it in context.
Yo what's the R word????
its r*tard or r*tarded, its a slur used to degrade nd or people with disabilities.
Idk that it was a bad bad word I knew it was never nice to say but it’s literally cancllled now
Retard in hungarian is 'retardált' (means exactly the same thing) which is not a bad word at all here. We actually use it a lot instead of 'mentally ill' for example.. It's a word which contains all of the speciall needs people like deaf or handicap people and this word is def not worse than the other, we use it in text books too, sometimes people use this word to curse but it's like asking someone 'are you deaf?' when they don't hear something.. This is why we don't think about zhis word as something bad
Because of this, I used to say 'retard' quite often in english too and I never seemed to realise that it's a bad word... Is it actually bad or people are just sensitive? It's a honest question, don't come at me.. Please only answer if you or someone you know is in special need, do they mind if we use this word?
Yuph i was really shocked when i heard the song, is good to know that he's sorry couse we have been there once, we were (in one point in our lives) stupid :v
Retard was never a bad word, it was the same as saying sugar disease
When people never had a substitute for learning disorders they used Retard
How we've given the word a bad meaning is on us not on him so it's all good
What is the r word??
you could've looked at the rest of the comments but i'll copy and paste this here
the word r*tard/r*tarded (he said r*tarded in the song), its a slur used to discriminate against disabled and neurodivergent people, therefore only disabled and neurodivergent people are allowed to say it
@@crmscl thank you Omg thank God he realized it was wrong
@@alaashbat2392 mhm
You guys need to know both definitions as well if you want to be fully educated
Can you tell me both the definitions?
@@aathira741 one means to slow down in speed and one means stupid
@@Guyshni The first one to s retardation in physics though? It's not the R-word