Did This Patient Buy His Kidney on the Black Market? | Chicago Med | MD TV
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Dr Halstead goes into detective mode when he suspects his patient is donating his kidney through the black market.
From Chicago Med Season 4 Episode 20 'More Harm Than Good' - Dr. Charles and Dr. Manning disagree on how to handle a patient who they discover is poisoning herself; Dr. Rhodes throws some serious accusations at Dr. Bekker; Dr. Halstead has suspicions about Natalie's new boyfriend; Dr. Choi tends to Bernie.
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I always find this interesting, because even if a relative gifts you a kidney I can't believe you don't feel indebted for life anyway
I know Sarah Hyland felt incredibly guilty over her little brother donating his kidney for her because her dad had donated his kidney for her the first time but sadly it was rejected and not viable. So she felt guilty, especially since she is the older sibling and felt like she should be the one protecting and helping her little brother rather than him being the one who saves her. Obviously she didn’t do anything wrong and all of that but I don’t know how she would feel since I have never been in that situation. I’d say a lot of organ recipients feel that guilt.
So I got a kidney from my father, who was absent my entire life, only got it from him because my mom paid him to help me live...... Am i to feel indebted for life in that instance as well? Please people think before you just put any self righteous comments on these platforms thank you
It really depends on the person and situation I suppose. My mum recievex a kidney transplant from her mum. Any time they've had arguments, my nan brings up the fact my mum should be grateful to still be alive because of the transplant. It's a pretty nasty thing to say to someone
@@generichuman2044eah it’s an amazing thing to do for someone but it should not be used as a trap card in arguments or something to hold over another persons head. if the donator ends up doing bad things the receiver should not have to feel obligated to keep the donator in their life. organ donations are meant to be a selfless act. not one with strings attached
gratitude fades over time.
For those of you unaware - organs bought are from poor people exploited by the rich. The "donor" is someone beyond desperate for cash and sells their organ, decreasing their quality and quantity of life, whole the rich person has no such downside.
It's exploitation.
So is buying almost anything in a capitalist society. That doesn't make it wrong. Are we going to hunt down all the fatty food companies that flood the market with cheap non nutritional meals in the poor areas of the US?
Absolutely. It is even more concerning that a few people posting do not see the issue with it
If the poor person is aware of the implications and is making an informed decision I dont see the issue. Theres a difference between offering someone a million dollars and blackmailing/threatening someone. If anyone is at fault its the overall foundation of society that allows certain people to be so far in poverty
@@kjlh9 Being in poverty puts you in an altered mental state where you're willing to do things for money that you wouldn't otherwise if of sound mind. I'd argue someone selling their organ because they're in poverty is doing so under duress.
@@Cub_K people make decisions all the time based on their current circumstances. Are you saying we should prohibit them from making their own decisions because theyre too stressed due to poverty or other situations?
Profitable. A word you don't want to hear in a hospital. America is weird when it comes to healthcare.
Weird? Corrupt. I believe you mean corrupt.
You do know private healthcare exists in countries other than America, right?
@@addisonwelsh people dont use them unless they are idiots. they will pump all money out of patients they can doing all sort of useless tests and end up with same outcome as the public hospital would.
@@addisonwelsh bruh, are you serious? are you seriously gonna defend "American Healthcare System"?
@@smolapril Considering OP was acting as though private healthcare is a phenomenon unique to the US? In this case, I shall.
Blame op for being uninformed.
Bro don't they have a translator anywhere. I definitely wouldn't be doing a surgery without a translator present since that is a lawsuit waiting to happen and a life on my hands
It's apparently a really obscure language to most countries. It's not even on Google translate
Gagauz is a rather uncommon language, one of the few very obscure ones on earth. Only a small percent of the population speak it, and it's a small percent of the small percent of Romania. If you find someone who can speak fluent Gagauz and English i'd love to meet them, because that's about as rare as finding someone who can speak English, Somalian, Russian, French and ancient Sumerian.
@lordrevan571 you'd be surprised, I have friends who knew Arabic, English, French, Spanish, I think one other language idk and was learning Russian and Irish. If there's a will there's a way
@@emmamcmahon1738 You'd be surprised how little people speak unknown languages professionally enough to speak another and translate the two.
@@emmamcmahon1738 Arabic, English, French, Spanish, and Russian are all some of the most widely spoken languages on Earth. They are hardly comparable to something like Gagauz
Honestly, I don't see the issue with someone who is willingly selling their kidney. One person gets their life saved, while the other gets paid. Seems like a win win situation.
A lot of times the people selling their kidneys on the black market are poor people who are coerced to sell their organ to survive. It's actually quite common for organ traffickers to coerce vulnerable people in poor countries.
In illegal cases the seller isn’t always the one with the organ, what I’m meaning is human trafficking and selling their organs without their choice
The issue is the "willing patient" could have his family hogtied with a gun to their head and their only option to see them again is to leave the hospital with one of their kidneys in another body.
@Random dude very true we pay people for their plasma. I donated twice weekly for years in college and developed an autoimmune disorder. I was advised not to donate plasma anymore and thats just plasma imagine the reprocussions from kidney transplant
People in desperate situations will do desperate things. That isn't true consent
crap they actually are cousins
Doesn't mean he can't be exploited even if they are family
My aunt donated her kidney to my uncle because he was going to die without a new kidney. He is grateful to her because of this and they keep in contact with each other especially on the anniversary of the transplant
your aunt...your uncle... kept in contact. Weren't they married?
This episode is hilarious to anyone who's worked in a hospital cause there are translation companies they can call with lots of languages available. Plus, no one decided to use Google Translate the entire time.
Actually this series is a old I think it's probably released in 2015 That's why I think so 🤔
I worked in a hospital as well and while there are translators, sometimes it is hard to get ahold of translators for certain languages
Gagauz isn't one Google translate....
@@kothajahan6897I assure you by 2015, translation companies are available in major metropolitan areas. Even if there wasn’t a Moldovan speaker in Chicago, they could find one somewhere else in the States or in Europe. Phone translation is a thing and while it’s a bit expensive, the man can obviously pay.
@@kothajahan6897Lol google translate existed then
That was a lot more wholesome than I was expecting
Forreal. I like when it isn’t always the awful outcome.
Wow I think this might be the first reference to the Gagauz language in an English piece of media
When he said it I assumed he had made up a fake language. Never heard it mentioned before.
@@mattaddison4794 ditto
@@mattaddison4794 yeah, I was surprised too. I’m just a language nerd, so I was surprised that they mentioned it.
@@mattaddison4794 me too. Looked so shady.
I guess he was just a massive jerk for the most part rather than actually doing anything illegal, but he really did care about his cousin.
Yea cause he even said "I bought you here to Chicago to make me feel better not worse!" What an asshole thing to say V was donating his kidney
It shows that we need doctors to triple check when it comes to ANY gut instinct. Be it a diagnosis or if the patient is lying or ANYTHING as this could have been a Black Market buy. It could have been.
I know this is a show, but it shows that ANYONE following their gut or their instinct isn't a bad thing. If something feels hanky, follow it and discuss it with others until its either proven otherwise or you were right. That goes for not just doctors, but people you see at a bar or you see someone with a suspicious bruise etc. As long as you don't hurt anyone (mentally or physically) or break the law, then it could save a life.
Actually most people following their "gut" instinct is wrong, it takes certain level of rationality and intelligence to be able to be right in assumptions and all that, which most people aren't lmao
Even in this show, doctor manning shows that following gut instinct is not always good. From what I've seen, she's famous as a character who harshly misjudges a situation. Apparently she's even killed several of her patients because of her following her gut instinct.
I understand buying an organ like that is illegal, but in most instances its the only way. Organ donor lists are extremely long, and most people die waiting for an organ that could save their life. Its sad that that still happens in our world
The perameters that need to be met make the wait longer, too. My grandfather in law got his new liver literally the day before he was going to die. The liver was bigger than expected, so he had to have a open wound for 2 weeks while swelling went down. He was sent home 3days after surgery and we had to clean his open chest wound with packing gauze and q-tips until he could be closed up.
@@ScarletBrimstone oh that sounds terrible. If I may ask, how is your grandfather in law feeling now?
@@BigFella117 he's fine now. Still as grumpy as ever😅
Also you can miss one kidney without any issue, considering the other is healthy. So I don't see the issues
@@ScarletBrimstone haha aren't all grandparents like that? 😄
So was he really his cousin, but they just didn't know each other a lot because they grew up in different countries?
From what I understand more or less yeah
It seems to me that they are long time friends, that they met as children when the recipient and his mother visited Maldova. I’m thinking they aren’t related because the boys met on the last day of the trip. The friend wants to help him. 😮
That donor recipient really should have kept his mouth shut.
It's Trevor from Ghosts!! It's great to finally see him wearing pants, haha.
😂 I was thinking the same thing!!!
Thirded!
I loved ghosts! It'd great that there's a British and American version, get double the amount of content ha
This show:.....
Google translate: I'm not even here. I'm an illusion.
I teach EAL, I have kids whose main language is not on Google Translate, and also whose language makes it virtually impossible to get a good bilingual dictionary.
This episode aired in season 4. The language they claim he speaks still is not on Google translate.
Try to translate Gagauz with google translate, because it does not exist as option there
No matter what this show always makes the heart beat faster
I like the personal connection and story from when they were kids.
For someone who actually had a kidney transplant, I think it’s very odd that they’ve bought a kidney off the black market.
unless i'm mistaken they really are cousins and he didn't buy it off the black market, its at the end
Really? My baby daddy comes from India and his Uncle was able to buy a kidney and have a transplant with very little problem… Surgery was done in the UK
I don't know when this episode was made or first aired, but I'll bet Google Translate existed at that time! Why didn't any of the hospital staff bring in a laptop and have the patient use text to answer questions? Even if he's illiterate (doubtful, as literacy and education are highly valued in Russia and eastern European countries) someone could use the phonetic translations to communicate with him.
Gagauz isn't on Google translate, but I'm having a harder time believing that he wouldn't at least understand Romanian enough to communicate through an interpreter since it is the national language of Moldova
@@yuzuchino Certain regions in Moldova really resist Romanian influence. So it's believable....but still unlikely that his parents wouldn't have invested in either a Romanian or Russian second language option.
I wish translate had all the languages but it doesn’t, ran into a couple of languages not available throughout my career.
@@yuzuchino surely he would have at least some working knowledge of another language from school. Gagauz is not widely spoken it would not be easy as a monolingual Gagauz speaker
@@Meodreadthis is also assuming he had access to a good education
Family is almost always the first resort. It’s more than life saving. It means the world to everyone
well "family" in this case is a pretty loose definition. i mean the guy didn't even know his cousin's birthday, which is pretty rude if your'e gonna ask for a kidney
i guess what i'm saying is you should keep in touch with your family and be involved in their lives in case you might need them or they might need you
@@zilesis1 In fairness to the guy they were asking him the annoying routine questioning while he is literally dying from renal failure. So I think he was justified to be a bit clueless and irritated.
Unless your under the poverty line you wouldn’t know what to do, if someone was offering me £500,000 for a kidney I’d happily do it!!! To give my son a better life!
The issue is, only the rich could afford kidneys if money was allowed. That will leave everybody else to die because anyone willing to give up an organ would give it off to the highest bidder. If you were a match for your sister and you could choose between saving your sister's life or a match offering you two million dollars. How many people would choose to save their sister? How many people would choose the money. If a hundred random people was asked this question what would they choose.
@@mewtwomotherfuka If I’m dead and I’ve donated my organs then it’s all fair game for whomever. If I’m alive then I can choose who to give my organs to, thank you very much. I will like to be able to afford good food and healthcare after giving out one kidney so that I wouldn’t need a transplant for myself in future.
Okkkaaayyyy!! The privilege of this doctor is hilarious.
@@mewtwomotherfukaI wouldn’t trade any of my parts for money because I want to work hard for money.
… I’d sell my kidney for less than half that. I’m not below the poverty line.
I know it's not the point, but is anyone else horrified by an hospital having such a thing as VIP rooms and an "Ambassador suite"???
Absolutely.
Seems very American. But it might be similar in my country on some level.
YES!!!
They do it in other countries like Japan and Korea it’s a known thing unfortunately
No. I worked in a military hospital and its very normal. You don't want just anyone to be able to walk into the President's hospital room.
I had a professor from Moldova in college. She told me their official language is Romanian, but many people do speak Russian because Russia still has a military base there to this day, from the time of the Soviet Union. (That professor is very pro-Ukraine haha.) And of course she also learned English to work and teach in the U.S.
It's actually more the centuries long issues with Romanian that make people not learn Romanian not Russia having a base
To clarify on this - many people speak Russian because the country was in the Soviet Union until 1991 and Russian language was required everywhere. This means a few generations were raised under heavy Russian influence so even after the fall of URSSR the use of the language stayed. Moldova is a bilingual country at this point. In school kids learn even more languages so knowing 3+ languages is normal. Russia has a military base in Transnistria (east of the country) which is an unrecognized breakaway state but Moldova doesn't have much say over that land. Source: born and raised in Moldova.
Most former Soviet countries still speak Russian
Don’t blame him for being worried
MOLDOVA ? im sorry i'm from Moldova and I bearly see mentions of my country ANYWHERE on the internet :0
ok
There’s a guy on RUclips called Bald and Bankrupt; he travels all around Eastern Europe and he spent time in Moldova and showed how incredibly poverty stricken the country has become……
@@downhomesunset bro no one asked 💀
@@downhomesunset oh? ty ill check it out
@@downhomesunset I love Bald and Bankrupt! So good!
Wow this is the first time I’ve seen Moldova being specified in a show and not just mixed with Romania. Also Moldavians speak the Romanian language all the same as Romanians, only a couple words are different (like French in Quebec vs. France).
Side note: Seems like no matter what Moldavians keep getting taken advantaged of and made fun of
not all moldavians speak romanian, there are indeed some in areas where romanian influence is resisted who only speak gagauz or speak romanian very poorly
@@Max._Powerand also in the area of transnistria people speak Russian or Ukrainian because it's a communist region under russian control plus it's bordering Ukraine
From clips online, I feel like a lot of this show is about detective work, work that is outside a doctor's purview xD
The end was so cute
This is so hard to watch considering it’s a scary reality sadly
Kidneys always confused me,i only under stand what its worth when i almost lost one
People want poison but it damages your organs so they get new organs to continue their habits
That scene at the end was so sweet
My parent's are both retired USN/USMC Corpsmen and I'm a civilian special conditions medic. We've always fought if something isn't right. My father managed a hospital but wasn't liked because he put the pts care over cash.
You father is an honorable man. Those are rare
@@jodie3950 thank you :)
I knew I recognized the voice, he's the same guy who plays Trevor from Ghosts!
ok?
Fun fact: Gagauz people are Turkic people living in Ukraine and the autonomous state of Gagauzia in Moldova. They speak Gagauz which is an Oghuz Turkic language, like Turkish, Azerbaijani and Turkmen.
It is quite intelligeble with Turkish so Turkish translator could work just fine. Or just use google translate!
If i were to donate an organ, especially to a stranger, i wouldn't want to be forever in their life. And i sure wouldn't want to feel obligated to be in someone's life cause they donated to me either. Of course donating should be appreciated as the act of sacrifice and kindness it is (when its not coerced), but if you donate in exchange for a lifetime of gratitude i don't think you're doing it for the right reason.
If a bond develops naturally and you actually strike a friendship with the donor/receiver that's great. But having been donated to should be used as a guilt trip card for life to keep either person compromised in a relationship they may not want.
Hey, is this the guy who plays Trevor in Ghosts? Cool!
Omg...it is... Asher Grodman... didn't recognise him with pants!
Ahahhaha
I was looking for this comment 😂
I was like, “WHO IS THAT?!”
Thaanks!! I breaking my brain , just try to figure out, where I 👀 this cute face
"Did you buy this kidney on the blackmarket?"
"No, why"
*kidney plays tetris theme*
lol what
Well doesn't he feel silly....
A lot of this couldve been settled by a translator
i totally understand why he thought it was strange
The ONLY way to ensure that this kidney transaction is willing on all sides is to get an interpreter for the younger cousin.
Seeing the cuts, bruises and other in this episode is making me nervous.
Awe, that's a cute story 😍
Was that guy in the gray shirt in Good Doctor 1x08?!
did anyone else at first think the kids in the picture were being held hostage for the kidney?
For the people who are asking: the language they said is gagauz.
Between him and Manning.. idk who
mis-interprets things more often 😂😂
Time to get checked for both kidneys . Especially if you never agreed to give up anything and still alive
could he not have got his phone out and gone on google translate?
If medicine was this exciting I wouldn't want to jump off a bridge every day.
What I’m really doing when I tell my parents I’m studying for my Medical Terminology class
Yeah, you never let a patient or victims family translate for them. If you are too close to the situation, it gets messy. They won’t translate everything that the person says, or the person may not feel comfortable enough opening up with the full truth. My work uses a phone service that can get us translators for just about any language.
Oh, that's Trevor from "Ghosts"!
Translator/Interpreter here! For such cases, it's recommended to get a translator speaking "closest" language to that language.
It's hard to find someone who speaks Gagauz, but it's easier to find someone who speaks Turkish.
Gagauz and Turkish is mutually intelligible.
I understand the lack of a legal translator, but you can use google translate to discuss with people. I do it at work because I don’t speak Spanish and the other worker was the one who translated Spanish to English without my prompting.
And this is why I’ll never donate a kidney ….1 if I got really sick they wouldn’t try to save me if they know I’m a match to someone else 2 It’s harder for you after the transplant than it is for the person getting the kidney
1- no. Not at all. The hospital that has the donor virtually never uses the donor organs. They’re distributed according to need by UNOS. And the neurology team doesn’t perform transplants. It’s not their patients. Plus even if all doctors were sociopaths, they wouldn’t wanna have their survival stats go down.
2- it can be. This is because you go into the surgery feeling well whilst the recipient goes in pretty sick. So one of you feels better overall post op whist the other doesn’t. There also can be issues but they’re rare.
If you ever need a kidney and are a former donor, you’re prioritized for a deceased donor transplant.
Thanks for an intelligent, informed and reflected answer to such a statement 🤦♀️
How is it harder for the person losing the kidney? Many people with one kidney live long fulfilling lives. Although I completely get how it can be more risky and they would be at the top of transplant lists. and good health and long life is not always guaranteed.. But they don’t need to take anything like antirejection for the rest of their life do they? Their body won’t suddenly reject the kidney one day. Just curious, I have no idea :-)
My mom gave me a kidney, will be 5 years in February. If she ever needs a kidney she is bumped up to the top of the list. She had no pain or issues after surgery, her incision was very small, just a little cut by her belly. Mine is half my body. She has no restrictions and has had no issues. I hope other donors have that same luck
@@Thearrowstrikes because the recipient gets what he needs and the donor gets literally an organ taken away. Naturally the recipient will feel better drastically and the donor will feel a lot worse at first.
If someone donates something that important to me their in my life for good I don’t care what else they do or I do cause yeah things happen but I don’t care you gave me another chance at life anything and everything else is irrelevant vise versa if I was donating to them
Obvious human trafficking
No it is not.
How difficult would it be to just call the UN on a speakerphone and ask somebody there to translate?
VIP room for some patients. Disgusting
The doctor says "tell me the truth so I can help." Clearly, what he wanted to do wasn't actually help. He was just interfering.
They needed house on this he would’ve been figured them out
If someone is giving you an organ and putting their life in danger, least you could do is find out their birthday... just saying.
One brother needed a kidney. His brother gave it to him. He caught an infection and died. That is the risk!
What happened in the end?
Nothing, it was the truth, they're cousins!
They next show the ends of these videos makes me so mad
@@alexdelaloire8739 Wow, ok. Generally, there’s a twist so didn’t see that coming
@@trishyangel123 that is the twist
@@rdgloveshouse and he still gets they kidney?
Is that Trevor from the series Ghosts?
Its Trevor from Ghost! ✌ When he was still alive and working at NYC!
"Gagauz (Gagauz: Gagauzlar) are a Turkic ethnic group native to southern Moldova and southwestern Ukraine. Gagauz are mostly Eastern Orthodox Christians. The term Gagauz is also often used as a collective naming of Turkic people living in the Balkans, speaking the Gagauz language, a language separated from Balkan Gagauz Turkish. Total population c.200,000"
I don’t see the issue. If two consenting adults have an agreement, stay out of it. They are both making the choice.
Impossible that they could not get a translator. Really bad.
Love your videos
Sold my kidney 4 years ago,for a sizeable amount, started a business and it's flourishing
0:12 Hos last name sounds very sus
I genuinely think hospitals should allow people to go in and sell one their kidneys or blood or literally anything that wouldn't result in a person's death or cause large disability (ex. You couldn't sell your heart or eyes). It would solve the donation shortage, help people financially and it prevent human trafficking selling because organs and the market would more able to be controlled.
The guy is willing and the doctor needs to play a hero once again. gawd this show is awful and I keep saying do not recommend yet it does.
is that the actor who played the priest in house MD?
No wonder he looks familiar! Just a little less tired and over life in this episode lol
Actually it is not.looks alot like him though
Why do TV shows always act like Google translate doesn't exist?
They are best friends and he's acting out of love and kindness. Y'all modernized capitalist westerners see nothing but profits. People from faraway places in the world have such pure and genuine hearts. Try to understand that.
If I know black market dealers they never give the good stuff for a cheap price
The showwriters really tried to cover their bases with this scenario. There are a lot of languages in the world, and while many people, even if there primary language is pretty rare, speak a secondary language, there definitely are still people who only speak a single, rarely-spoken language. The Gagauz people number less than 200,000 in the world, with the Gaugaz language likely having far less than that. Gaugazia is a very small autonomous territory in an already (speaking in general terms) under-developed economy. While Romanian is the official language in Moldova, and other languages like Russian and Ukrainian are also spoken relatively commonly, Gaugazia specifically has Gaugaz as its official language. Moldova itself was a widely anti-Soviet country, and Gaugazia was notably anti-Romanian, so it's not unlikely that a poor family in a small village would only know Gagauz.
Why don't they just use Google Translate lmao?
The TV show can't afford the Google royalties
Gagauz is spoken by less than 200,000 people in the world. It is not on Google Translate.
Interesting twist!
And the guy who needs the help kinda looks like Josh Peck😐
The foreign guy kinda looks like Jimmy Simpson 🤨
Being from that region in the world, wouldn't he know Russian or Romanian too?
I badly want to give them google translate LIKE DUDEEEE
Hey, it's Trevor from Ghosts.
Umm I thought they were cousins
Sooooo why did he say I met him 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
You can do this in asia from convicted prisoners for the last 30 years...money does buy life, ask my neighbor
Is google translate not in this era yet?
Guys I think we found Frank’s stolen kidney
Money money money……ethics are boring anyway, right?
Is organ donation really expensive or something?
What season and episode is this
Good looking 👦 guys
I'm glad the Hospital Director lady only makes a few appearances, she's such a B😅
The language premise is stupid. Moldova is a country in Europe landlocked between Roumania and Ukraine and the idea that a minority group would not speak a majority group language is the most stupid unworldly thing I've seen in an American show I've seen in a while.
-Long As It’s Not Trafficking… I Don’t Kno The Morals Unfortunately