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  • @krazywabbit
    @krazywabbit 2 дня назад +6

    What you did in the first 2 min and 15 seconds has sold me. This, after me complaining about no internal battery. I complain about the silliest of things. A good night sleep and came back to watch. This is a fun device and will be a great addition to the toy box.
    Also, thank you again for your time and effort that you put into making the video. Respect sir.

    • @novelresponse
      @novelresponse 13 часов назад

      Yes !! I get what you're saying, had I not already just ordered one ; I would've ordered one after the intro section of this video.

  • @gatosoul
    @gatosoul 15 часов назад +3

    I hope HydraSynth Designers and Akai people are Following this, Thank you for sharing

    • @ickebins6948
      @ickebins6948 51 минуту назад

      I don't see any real overlap between the products...
      They are designed for different uses.

  • @CiabaMusic
    @CiabaMusic День назад +5

    That's exactly the video I was looking for, with a dive into physical modeling and granular. Thanks for that and I'd love a deeper video on sound design, cause at the moment it's the last thing I'm not so sure about this really original take into synth gear. I'd also enjoy an overview on midi out capabilities.
    This could be a really really fun instrument for whom like me just want to noodle around, without necessarily use a more beat-oriented groovebox, or at least to expand that into a more structured composition. This machine married with a Digitakt/Syntakt coul be one of the best two piece combo on the market for us hobbyists musician
    Cheers

  • @cliftonoquinn1865
    @cliftonoquinn1865 2 дня назад +3

    Order placed. Your video nudged me in.
    At that price, it is a definite winner.

  • @stuartcarter7053
    @stuartcarter7053 2 дня назад +21

    I have a Polyend Tracker and Polyend are still always updating the firmware to add loads more features. Great company. I'd have no hesitation in thinking this synth will grow and grow over time

    • @gepardek
      @gepardek 2 дня назад

      And after 2 years they will release PLUS version and you will be cooked. :

    • @epolpier
      @epolpier 2 дня назад +1

      @@gepardek How does it change already released devices ? Does it make them non-functional ?

    • @bondi5000
      @bondi5000 2 дня назад +1

      @@gepardekoh let it go mate. Clutching on to one miss-step a small company has made and harping on about it at every given opportunity is no way to lead your best life. Seriously.

    • @gepardek
      @gepardek День назад

      @@epolpier Radosławie, it doesn't. But it's about being transparent for the community and nothing else. People won't buy next time, waiting for the next, better or "final" version. Polyend said about Synth, that they will not make a plus and I value their newest approach.

    • @gepardek
      @gepardek День назад

      ​@@bondi5000 I did. I love Polyend. And I root for them, so I don't want them to do more Play plus missteps.

  • @sanderschat
    @sanderschat 2 дня назад +12

    tutorial on a sound design on one of these?
    Ohh yes please!

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +3

      @@sanderschat noted

    • @DickDancers
      @DickDancers День назад

      @@OscillatorSink That will certainly help to unfold the actual potential of this device. Your in-depth approach is something that's really needed to see whether the Synth is yey or ney =)

  • @tilde____
    @tilde____ День назад +3

    I join the chorus for a deep dive into sound design. I would also like to learn more about the modulation possibilities of velocity and poly aftertouch.

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  День назад

      @@tilde____ it's looking like it will happen given the demand (and also it'll be fun). I love your work by the way - your instruments are absolutely, genuinely beautiful.

    • @tilde____
      @tilde____ День назад +1

      @@OscillatorSink 💚

  • @internalreality
    @internalreality 2 дня назад +4

    god DAMN ive been thinking of my expanding my current setup (digitone + tetsuo noise box) and this thing looks so fun. thanks for this amazin video

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад

      Thanks for watching. This might make a nice hands on addition to that setup!

  • @cyberamus
    @cyberamus 2 дня назад +2

    For the non-player, this looks both innovative and appealing for creation :) Well done Polyend, you have my attention !

  • @MADCAPS101
    @MADCAPS101 2 дня назад +4

    squidgy surface alone forced my hand on the preorder hehe great showcase and your presentation is great and if you alluded to considering more extensive edit, thank goodness you saw the light[s] :-D

  • @jovwvy
    @jovwvy 15 минут назад

    Interesting sounds. Im more used to the vintage analog synth workflow and sounds but these sounds are amazing. Very scenic.

  • @the_glove
    @the_glove 2 дня назад +2

    This is the first thing they’ve released that has me interested . Reminds me of an Electribe

  • @WxkR
    @WxkR День назад +1

    Well done Polyend! Synth is like the updated Monomachine Elektron never issued but with a more cheerful/friendly/fresh interface.

  • @h8f5
    @h8f5 2 дня назад +3

    The way multi timbrel works on the grid is SICK

  • @musicbyethan
    @musicbyethan 2 дня назад +5

    Lots of great synths will be coming out over the next few years guaranteed. ;)

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +2

      A blesséd time to like synths.

    • @zoned7609
      @zoned7609 2 дня назад

      right before the world goes to crap. grab em while you can 😅

  • @ArdentPhoenix
    @ArdentPhoenix 2 дня назад +3

    I recently ordered the erae touch ii, which is an mpe midi controller that is fully customizable and lets you contol multiple devices/engines from each page. Im really liking this synth one thing i think it could benefit from is a solid livelooper function like the one in the erae touch ii. It just seems very intuitive and jamabble, especially with control of those multi timbre/voices/instrumments. Maybe in a firmware update. Im probably not in the market for a new synth at the moment anyways but this does look pretty sweet to me.

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +1

      I had some hands on time with the Erae at Superbooth and really liked it, the customization and multiple outputs are really great - it also has a nice squidge to it!

  • @Pyroja
    @Pyroja 2 дня назад +3

    I need Novation to mimic this form factor and give us some sort of souped-up Circuit that combines and expands on the capabilities of the Rhythm and the Tracks.

  • @d3tuned378
    @d3tuned378 2 дня назад +5

    This looks worth it even if you only plan to use it as a midi controller! The fact it's got 12 pads per row means five full octaves all with the same relationship to each other! I've been searching for the perfect isomorphic pads with aftertouch. I don't recall if you said poly or channel, but i can live with channel if i have to!

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +1

      For the internal synths it's poly, I haven't tried it as a controller, but I'd *assume* poly there too - but check the manual to confirm!

    • @brokengadget7519
      @brokengadget7519 2 дня назад +2

      These avatars are brothers from another mother

    • @d3tuned378
      @d3tuned378 2 дня назад +1

      @@brokengadget7519 while not intentional, I can't pretend it probably wasn't happening subconsciously when I made this icon :)
      It's a wave but also an M for my first name

  • @sandroidmusic
    @sandroidmusic 2 дня назад +2

    I've had a grand ol time with the device so far. Had a couple evenings just slip by me, because i've been sitting on it noodling. I fully agree with your take on the filth as well. It needs more filth! Some form of distortion/saturation on top of the engines would be absolutely amazing. You can get around it, depending on what engine you are using and it's source material (WTFM and WAVS/GRAINS for example) Other than that though, very well rounded overview of the device!

  • @GregorVuga
    @GregorVuga 2 дня назад +2

    I love both physical modelling and granular, so this seemed like an exciting proposition, maybe something to replace my MicroFreak. However your comments about CPU overload are exactly why I stopped making music on the computer. I'm willing to accept the various creative limitations of hardware, but on a machine whose whole deal is that it can do multi-engine, multi-timbral stuff, CPU overload is not a limitation but simply a flaw. It might sound harsh, but I think it's entirely fair to say it "shouldn't be allowed" to even get there. Unfortunate.

    • @mynameislinea
      @mynameislinea 23 часа назад

      yeah, I'd be very very interested in this without the CPU overload thing but that is precisely what I would be buying this to escape, otherwise I might as well stick with Chromaphone and Kaivo

  • @ross_ykm
    @ross_ykm 2 дня назад +1

    Thanks OS, great coverage! Aligns well with ways I’d likely use the machine. If feeding back to Polyend (and tenuously related to adding dirt/processing): separation of the synths in USB-audio (or an alternative export method) would be huuuge. Also interested in possibility of MIDI from each synth (inc arp and MPE!) being transmitted for controller purposes. Wonder too if line-in could be used to capture audio for granular...Already compelling though! Does a lot of what I've strived for through Launchpad Pro custom mappings.

  • @tommayo3212
    @tommayo3212 Час назад +1

    Hope to see mine from DHL on Monday!

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  Час назад

      @@tommayo3212 enjoy! Try not to spend all day refreshing the tracking info!

  • @valdir7426
    @valdir7426 2 дня назад +2

    I think there are great performance ideas in this instrument (hold shift; shared keyboard); and I know the play has a great sequencer; so now I'm wondering if polyend shouldn't simply make a sequencer using those ideas, something a bit like the oxi one. curious to see how people use it just as a midi controller for other synths or a DAW. again this shift + hold thing is genius; I'd like to see this on other controllers.

  • @chitlun
    @chitlun 2 дня назад

    Hmmmm, very interesting indeed… I was hellbent on getting a Digitone 2 but this may have put a spanner in the works! I pretty much do improvised performative stuff, either solo or jamming with mates so this might scratch a very large itch. Great vid man, cheers! Would love to see more on the physical modelling and granular engines. Not necessarily deep dives either, just some performances perhaps.

  • @pablowentscobar
    @pablowentscobar 10 часов назад

    I haven't got my hands on one, but from what I've seen and heard the last few days I think Polyend hit it out of the part with this. Sounds great, looks fairly intuitive to navigate and seams like a powerful component, all that for $500. I bet they sell lots of these. I want one, and I hate everything.

  • @tColorsinspacerecordings
    @tColorsinspacerecordings 2 дня назад +3

    Wow the physical modeling synth sounds right outta Jon Hopkins new album

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +1

      The physical modelling is probably worth the price of admission on its own. A synth with that sort of engine and this sort of playing surface is something I've wanted for a while.

    • @tColorsinspacerecordings
      @tColorsinspacerecordings 2 дня назад +1

      I just ordered it for this and the granualr engine alone. Great video!

  • @aloharay
    @aloharay 2 дня назад

    I was on the fence about this one, but your noodling around pushed me over. looking forward to what firmware updates will bring with this one.

  • @blaatfanaat
    @blaatfanaat День назад

    Thanks great video! Maybe you have some answers to my questions?
    Does it output arp/chords etc as midi?
    Can you make your own chord packs?
    Can you record/make a performance or a song on the device?

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  День назад

      1. I haven't checked, but I will when I get a moment (I only used it stand alone in my testing)
      2. There doesn't seem to be a way to make chord packs right at the moment, but I would very much hope there will be (otherwise I'll set about reverse engineering the format!)
      3. No.

    • @blaatfanaat
      @blaatfanaat День назад

      @@OscillatorSink Thanks 🙂

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  13 часов назад +1

      @@blaatfanaat update - I just noticed the firmware they released on release day (after I made the video) does actually come with a way to edit chord packs now! I'll have to have a play!

  • @rodrigolaporte274
    @rodrigolaporte274 2 дня назад +3

    VEEEEEERY cool!

  • @bondi5000
    @bondi5000 День назад

    Great review. Just ordered one. And if it’s not as good as I’m expecting it’s ALL YOUR FAULT! 😂

  • @martindu4
    @martindu4 14 часов назад

    What about the sequencer, i have not seen anyone discuss this so far. Superb video as always.

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  13 часов назад +2

      @@martindu4 Bo touched on it on his video I think - it's a pretty basic step sequencer, but it has the groove templates from the arpeggiator which is good. It also adheres to the scale when you transpose it and can do the follower thing. Bo describes it as "programmable arpeggiator" in the way you use it, and I'm inclined to agree.

    • @martindu4
      @martindu4 13 часов назад

      @ Thanks for that. Someone (on Elektronauts) mention potentially using this as a MIDI controller where each grid zone would output to a different MIDI channel. Is that possible? That would be very interesting and almost a must buy. Especially in chord modes.

  • @iiaaiiaannaaiiaaii
    @iiaaiiaannaaiiaaii 2 дня назад

    The Tracker has a pretty awesome drive and a decent limiter so hopefully Polyend can slap that on in post along with the bit depth etc. (The holistic saturation/hard and soft clip/drive options on the tracker are actually the best, that would be nice)

  • @dinogoldie9716
    @dinogoldie9716 День назад +1

    It looks/sounds like a cross between a Microfreak and a Novation Circuit. It looks/souns very interesting. However, accessibility is a deal breaker for me. Can one access everything through surface key combos? or is there any/a lot of menu diving?

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  14 часов назад

      @@dinogoldie9716 there are a lot of key combos that I didn't learn. I wouldn't say that it's particularly menu-dive heavy outside of the setup type tasks. A lot of paging through screen though.

  • @C0llinsW0rth.
    @C0llinsW0rth. День назад

    is it possible to show off what the ports look like? i'm having a really really hard time seeing what the midi port situation looks like : ( Thank you for the awesome content! liked and subscribed!

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  День назад +1

      Stereo mini jack output, mini trs midi in and out, USB C for power/midi/file transfer. Welcome to the channel!

    • @C0llinsW0rth.
      @C0llinsW0rth. День назад

      @OscillatorSink Awesome! Thank you so much, some videos were talking about midi for the 3 different synths and I was worried there were 3 different midi ports for each synth. Sounds like there's just 1 and it's split by channels.

  • @LAZ-org
    @LAZ-org 14 часов назад

    I was hoping Arturia would have done something similar w PIGMENTS and their FX. So this will definitely be perfect.

    • @LAZ-org
      @LAZ-org 14 часов назад

      Also thank you for going over the Physical Modelling engine. RIP Ayodo and their excellent Anyma Phi.

  • @simonc8265
    @simonc8265 2 дня назад +1

    Watch most videos about this. Loved yours because it gets the features and the versality. Serious even the polyend demo on sonic state felt dour. It's been agreed by the chief exec for the Christmas list... Actually Christmas item now... So please consider this a tutorial request. Damn you!

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +1

      @@simonc8265 thanks! And yes I'll have a think about how best to approach a tutorial - there's a lot to it!

  • @zivoskyjoseig1381
    @zivoskyjoseig1381 2 дня назад +1

    I'd love to see a more indepth video. Did it limit you to not really know which pad to play for a certain notes?

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +2

      @@zivoskyjoseig1381 I think you get pretty quick at recognising degrees of the scale between the brighter root notes actually - I think it can sometimes feel limiting to not be able to play notes outside of the scale though, and the chromatic mode is definitely a little harder to navigate. It'd be interesting to see if there were other grid layouts that polyend could come up with that provide a different level of understanding...

  • @treschlet
    @treschlet 2 дня назад +2

    I would have happily paid an extra $50-$100 to have separate outputs for each of the three timbres. Is it really so hard to add extra outputs?

  • @neopac
    @neopac 2 дня назад +1

    Atm I’m pretty much set on buying an Oxi One, mostly for some generative ambient noodling and just having fun with it. After using my Plinky, I’ve really come to love hands-on, layout-focused gear, so your this device really caught my eye. Does it lean into generative, evolving pads with its scenes, or is it more about being instrument- and performance-focused?

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +1

      It wouldn't be my first choice for truly generative stuff as I don't think the mod matrix (and modulation sources) are super deep and the sequencing is (I think intentionally) pretty basic. It feels a lot more of a "direct intention" kind of instrument. That's not to say you can't do some generative practices with it... But yeah, wouldn't be my first choice (in fact I'd choose it's cousin the Play over it).

    • @neopac
      @neopac 2 дня назад

      ​@@OscillatorSink Thanks for the response! I’ll keep an eye on this over the next few weeks, especially to see how they address the CPU load issue in the upcoming firmware patches. It still feels like a remarkable evolution of the playstyle I love from the Plinky.

  • @Pheonix0114
    @Pheonix0114 День назад +1

    I love when you do wierd stuff

  • @BrunoWiebelt
    @BrunoWiebelt 2 дня назад +2

    I like it too

  • @non-sequitur
    @non-sequitur 19 часов назад

    Wondering if you can send notes from the Polyend Play sequencer to the Synth? I would hope so, but would like to find out before I smash that buy button

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  19 часов назад +1

      @non-sequitur@@non-sequiturI haven't tried sequencing it externally, but you have midi tracks on the Play, and the Synth receives MIDI (Bo Beats shows it being sequenced from a digitakt in his video).

    • @non-sequitur
      @non-sequitur 19 часов назад +1

      @@OscillatorSink Oh that's right, I did watch Bo's video. thanks for pointing that out

  • @theswampling
    @theswampling 2 дня назад +1

    Please Please Please dig in deeper. i would like to see a deep Sounddesign Video from you.

  • @longshotkdb
    @longshotkdb 2 дня назад +2

    It's not at all unusual when you live on waves to imagine you are indeed some kind of synth.
    Playing the sails against the wind.
    ∆ it's not* the tracker.
    Ignore the previous comment.
    Ok. ∆

  • @user82938
    @user82938 2 дня назад +1

    Why is no one able to match the Virus TI2 in 2024?

  • @monomakes
    @monomakes 22 часа назад

    Are the parameters responsive to MIDI? I'd love to use this with an EWI.

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  22 часа назад +1

      @@monomakes there's no midi implementation table available at the moment - polyend have a support forum so it might be worth asking there.

    • @monomakes
      @monomakes 14 часов назад

      @@OscillatorSink thanks mate! I may well do.

  • @schmapps1
    @schmapps1 День назад

    It seems like a super interesting and rather unique product. But it just baffles me as to why, in 2024 with the tech available to us, they would release a multi-timbral synth with only 8 voices to share and CPU overloads happening. C'mon.

  • @blenderbuch
    @blenderbuch День назад +1

    Wow, packed and that well! (Can I trade in my Lemondrop?!) :)

  • @Danolboy
    @Danolboy 2 дня назад

    Sounds good on a demo, can imagine these sounds getting quite old fast though

    • @mister-shifter
      @mister-shifter 14 часов назад

      It’s a synth, not a rompler. Just program more sounds.

  • @ozzelot3349
    @ozzelot3349 День назад +1

    That's a lot of synth.

  • @AliAusAachen
    @AliAusAachen 2 дня назад

    Even if I ever consider any product from this company, I’ll wait one year.

  • @CoincoinBleu
    @CoincoinBleu 2 дня назад

    Is the screen the same as with the Play+? As in, the Play+ could potentially have the same graphics in thr future?

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +2

      @@CoincoinBleu I'm not sure, sorry. I have an original Play and this screen seems better than that at least.

    • @CoincoinBleu
      @CoincoinBleu 2 дня назад +1

      @OscillatorSink it seems a step up from the Play+. That'd be amazing though!

  • @GrootsieTheDog
    @GrootsieTheDog 2 дня назад

    Future comment to any criticism of ployend's ever limited polyphony: "Limitations are great! They make you more creative." 🙄 Polyend = release product, add tons of upgrades that should have been there, then discontinue it.

  • @johnd7564
    @johnd7564 2 дня назад +3

    I guess I'm wondering why this isn't an update to Play+.

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +2

      There were some updates for that released yesterday I think?

    • @johnd7564
      @johnd7564 2 дня назад

      @@OscillatorSink Not sure on timing, but most recently they added PERC synth model. Everyone's pretty much waiting for them to enable Performance Mode on MIDI tracks.
      The SYNTH product SEEMS to be built on the same platform as Play+, and I guess my reaction is just that they could have added most or all of this to Play+. They don't OWE it to us, but with the blowback they got on the Play / Play+ situation, I would have hoped they'd want to overdeliver on Play+. Even some messaging "Hey, Play+ owners, we haven't forgotten you! You can expect XXX XXX and XX in the next few months" would have been awesome.
      If the SYNTH product has a different processor and the new engines / performance features could not be done on the Play+ hardware, I get it. But given the price points and how new the Play+ is, I doubt that.
      I do hope they'll be extending these new synth models to Play+, and some of the (pretty cool) performance stuff you were showing.
      To be fair, we have seen similar seeming misses from others. I think with the insane value and pace of additions to the MicroFreak, lots of us assumed Arturia would shower similar largesse on the MiniFreak. But though it's got more more capable hardware and is expensive, MiniFreak has not gotten the same improvements and still lacks much that makes the MicroFreak awesome.

  • @Snatchatorygape
    @Snatchatorygape День назад

    Tutorial please!!

  • @soundscapematrix
    @soundscapematrix День назад

    Yes

  • @KCCamper
    @KCCamper 2 дня назад

    I’m bummed that the sequencer is a step sequencer and not a grid based sequencer. It’s the only thing holding me back from buying one.

  • @James-Deep
    @James-Deep 2 дня назад

    Think I'd rather have this than the microkorg2.

  • @FormulaXFD
    @FormulaXFD 2 дня назад +4

    Oof. And here I was thinking of picking up a Play next month...

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +1

      They are very different in what they set out to do - the Play has a far more powerful sequencer, as in, it's not even comparable. On the other hand, the Synth is a lot more playable/jam-able and much more versatile and expressive in what you can do with the sounds (although samples can sound like whatever you want on the Play, obviously, it's not as expressive).

  • @ColossusBall
    @ColossusBall 2 дня назад +5

    Why do they keep releasing the same boxes with different software? I feel like they could put most of their hardware into a singular powerful unit... Im really not a fan of this model.

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +2

      The playing surface on the Synth is quite different to the Play/Play+, even if the box itself appears to be the same.

  • @mauriziomauricone
    @mauriziomauricone 2 дня назад

    Yet another “noodling” device.

    • @OscillatorSink
      @OscillatorSink  2 дня назад +5

      @@mauriziomauricone nothing wrong with that in my eyes. Playing for yourself, for the enjoyment of the process of making music and sounds in the moment is totally valid.

    • @the_glove
      @the_glove 2 дня назад

      Name one device that isn’t a noodling device

    • @mauriziomauricone
      @mauriziomauricone 2 дня назад

      @@the_glove What about any MIDI sequencer or standalone DAW which allows for actual creating a track or a song?

    • @the_glove
      @the_glove 2 дня назад

      @ you know you have a sequencer between your ears right ?

    • @mauriziomauricone
      @mauriziomauricone День назад

      @@the_glove Send me the WAV 😁