Did your camera pick up what I was shouting about the guy who squeezed me into the back of you after that incident?😂 My damn number plate thingy was bent and out of position. Side note, is it just me or do the Bristol karts feel restricted now that I have seen what the Warrington ones feel like?
My camera did grab the scenes afterwards however I thought I’d skip that little bit out… 😂 The whole front of the kart was caved in so I’m glad you were all good honestly! And I think the speed difference is just subject to the electrics having more torque, plus they can be at their top speed for longer due to the length of the straights! 🔥
@BenPaines I can't remember exactly what Isaid but it couldn't have been good😂, I'll need to bring my camera to every race now, regardless of what it is because Im pissed i didn't have it on this day
I've seen a crash like that happen quite a few times on race starts here and its a bit of a tricky one as its not a great track design. I've also been the one in your position on the inside a few times, but when i could see what was going to happen I just backed out, otherwise you're putting way too much faith on the outside kart deciding to give you more space. Equally when you're on the outside you cant just give people loads of space because you're practically giving the position to them even if they were already quite far back (i experienced this too a few times when i was being way too nice). I think technically the best thing to do when you're on the inside is to start to back out a little and get behind them when you see the outside kart is sticking to their line and forcing you into the vortex of danger (and also when you're clearly not ahead of them). In that way, you still keep the inside line from anyone behind you, but you just don't pass the one in front (something you can do later if you're quicker), you also wont be caught up in a collision with them. Sadly, i think most people do what you do knowing they will go into the barrier which ultimately results in a race restart, and i think some drivers know a restart is on the table so they do it intentionally.
It’s a bit of a horrible kink in the track and unfortunately I’m a person that won’t ever back of something I consider a 50/50 chance of making a place unless something drastic happens. On this occasion, it just all came up very quickly, I didn’t even have time to react to what was going on, especially with a kart essentially pushing my rear bumper too (so there was no way of backing out unless I fully moved to the side and let everyone past - which I wasn’t going to do). I’m also not someone that would ever force a restart as I absolute hate wasting the track time - we lost out on about 6 laps of racing because of this. Although I do know some that would be more than happy to take places back if something like this were to happen 🤧
@@BenPaines If you were being pushed from behind too that's a fair point that i didn't consider as so you're right about it not being easy to back out in that situation. I actually liked your solution on the restart where you push that kart to the right slightly to stop it from happening again (as it looked like it was about to happen again). And yeah, I certainly know a few too who much prefer to force a race restart.
@@Robbie.Petchey.Racing *you're. Like most things in life, there is a real advantage to mastering the ability to successfully recognise when to commit or when to back out of a situation. If you don't ever choose your battles wisely then it's just reckless...and reckless behaviour is a real issue if it directly impacts others.
I noticed on the restart you were VERY clearly crawling forward well before the lights went out which is not great sportsmanship. 8:14 for anyone wanting to have a look.
The karts have a high idle, and I wasn’t holding the brake which is why the kart was crawling slowly (further haven’t used petrol karts indoors at a race start for a good few months as explained in the video due to using electrics, which don’t crawl when the brakes are not held at a race start). However, I also was further back in my grid slot to accommodate for this. I race within the limits of what is allowed and pride myself on trying to be as sporting and fair as possible - especially as everything I do is recorded for everyone to see ✌🏾
@@BenPaines Interesting. Sounds like i have been the mug all along for sticking to the rules by holding the brake where needed to keep my kart stationary until the lights go out. I think regardless of whether you started further back in your grid slot to accommodate the high idle you still have an advantage compared to all other stationary karts as you've already got momentum, which as you know makes a big difference in karting. IMHO i dont think thats within the limits at all, it's clearly outside of them.
This is the only time I’ve ever done this just due to having a bit of a mind blank and using electric karts a lot recently, as I mentioned previously. At the end of the day, I just didn’t want a repeat of what happened before the restart took place 🤷🏾♂️
That crash looked brutal. You alright?😅 I’m a beginner (but kinda old 😄) karter and I really struggle with the slippery downstairs parts when the track is cold. Any advice?
Try to keep the kart as straight as possible and try not to drift through the corners. Use brakes gradually but still with enough pressure to reach max pressure on most corners (at least on this track) and be careful on the throttle as you want to get on it when the kart has settled and isn't sliding, although you can slightly feather it before going fully on the power coming out of a few low grip corners, for example the hairpin before the up ramp.
All drivers were alright thankfully, including myself! 💪🏾 Advice Oskar has given is very good, one thing I noticed after not going for a while, was how light you have to be on the brake pedal to not lose too much momentum. The most I was pressing it towards the end was about 20% of the entire pedal to ensure the kart slowed but didn’t completely bog down under low speed. Main advice however would be to not overdrive, aim to be smoother rather than faster if that makes sense? 👀
I did actually manage to land on top of another kart but luckily it was just on the nassau so it caused me to bounce off straight away and we were both alright! Fingers crossed there’s no more like it in the near future! 😅
Random question, what camera do you use to record your races and what mount do you use to attach it to your helmet. Want to get one for a Xmas present. Cheers 👌
Not a problem, I use a Go Pro Hero 8 and have done for the last few years. Have never had any issues with the camera other than sometimes the batteries tend to die and play up a little bit when it gets towards an hour straight recording (although I record with 2.7K and not 1080p). I just use the sticky pad mount that came with the camera kit and stuck it to the top of my helmet ready for the camera to be slotted into it. Personally, I would have a look at the Go Pro Hero 9 - I think the batteries and stabilisation are a bit better on them and as it’s a little older now, you may be able to grab it for a decent price! 🤞🏾
Main take away I'm taking from your videos is you Southern lot race alot more contact heavy then us northerners 😂 I need to race you somewhere like this and learn to just dive bomb
The 8:30 group on Mondays use to think it was stockcar all bumper action and loading. I did an extra session with them and it was agressively fantastic. We all came out with 6 penalty points each and the fence came down.
Air bourne that’s decent mate 😂but the move on my mate mr ford fellow tubby club member was dodgy ish imo BIKC penalty for that I think 😉😉🤣but if your not trying to pass your not a racer etc so fair play for going for the gap as you normally do 😃🤷♂️👊🏻🤣
Was definitely not expecting to be flying on this evening 😭 Mr Ford loves the divebombs, this was definitely on the limit but considered a clean move in the eyes of the marshals 😌 Appreciate it as always Wayne, will always go for those gaps 🥰
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Did your camera pick up what I was shouting about the guy who squeezed me into the back of you after that incident?😂 My damn number plate thingy was bent and out of position. Side note, is it just me or do the Bristol karts feel restricted now that I have seen what the Warrington ones feel like?
My camera did grab the scenes afterwards however I thought I’d skip that little bit out… 😂
The whole front of the kart was caved in so I’m glad you were all good honestly!
And I think the speed difference is just subject to the electrics having more torque, plus they can be at their top speed for longer due to the length of the straights! 🔥
@BenPaines I can't remember exactly what Isaid but it couldn't have been good😂, I'll need to bring my camera to every race now, regardless of what it is because Im pissed i didn't have it on this day
Oh no it definitely wasn’t… 🙃
I’m really surprised that you didn’t have it on you, but this is why I always wear mine, no matter where I am! 😅
Honestly so glad you guys we're okay from that, I legit crapped myself seeing that right next to me!
You literally had the best seat in the house to see what was going on… genuinely glad we were all good too it definitely wasn’t a pleasant experience!
@@BenPainesbloody was not a good seat 😩 joys of karting thoe 🥰
This is why karting is a top tier sport 🥹
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Thank you so much Sam! 🙌🏾
I've seen a crash like that happen quite a few times on race starts here and its a bit of a tricky one as its not a great track design. I've also been the one in your position on the inside a few times, but when i could see what was going to happen I just backed out, otherwise you're putting way too much faith on the outside kart deciding to give you more space. Equally when you're on the outside you cant just give people loads of space because you're practically giving the position to them even if they were already quite far back (i experienced this too a few times when i was being way too nice). I think technically the best thing to do when you're on the inside is to start to back out a little and get behind them when you see the outside kart is sticking to their line and forcing you into the vortex of danger (and also when you're clearly not ahead of them). In that way, you still keep the inside line from anyone behind you, but you just don't pass the one in front (something you can do later if you're quicker), you also wont be caught up in a collision with them. Sadly, i think most people do what you do knowing they will go into the barrier which ultimately results in a race restart, and i think some drivers know a restart is on the table so they do it intentionally.
Your right, best thing to do in racing is to back out of a move👍
It’s a bit of a horrible kink in the track and unfortunately I’m a person that won’t ever back of something I consider a 50/50 chance of making a place unless something drastic happens.
On this occasion, it just all came up very quickly, I didn’t even have time to react to what was going on, especially with a kart essentially pushing my rear bumper too (so there was no way of backing out unless I fully moved to the side and let everyone past - which I wasn’t going to do).
I’m also not someone that would ever force a restart as I absolute hate wasting the track time - we lost out on about 6 laps of racing because of this. Although I do know some that would be more than happy to take places back if something like this were to happen 🤧
@@BenPaines If you were being pushed from behind too that's a fair point that i didn't consider as so you're right about it not being easy to back out in that situation. I actually liked your solution on the restart where you push that kart to the right slightly to stop it from happening again (as it looked like it was about to happen again). And yeah, I certainly know a few too who much prefer to force a race restart.
@@Robbie.Petchey.Racing *you're. Like most things in life, there is a real advantage to mastering the ability to successfully recognise when to commit or when to back out of a situation. If you don't ever choose your battles wisely then it's just reckless...and reckless behaviour is a real issue if it directly impacts others.
@@JD-env1 sorry but who are you and where do u race?
I noticed on the restart you were VERY clearly crawling forward well before the lights went out which is not great sportsmanship. 8:14 for anyone wanting to have a look.
Absolute menance
The karts have a high idle, and I wasn’t holding the brake which is why the kart was crawling slowly (further haven’t used petrol karts indoors at a race start for a good few months as explained in the video due to using electrics, which don’t crawl when the brakes are not held at a race start). However, I also was further back in my grid slot to accommodate for this.
I race within the limits of what is allowed and pride myself on trying to be as sporting and fair as possible - especially as everything I do is recorded for everyone to see ✌🏾
nothing new at TS Bristol, Bens been doing it since the start
@@BenPaines Interesting. Sounds like i have been the mug all along for sticking to the rules by holding the brake where needed to keep my kart stationary until the lights go out. I think regardless of whether you started further back in your grid slot to accommodate the high idle you still have an advantage compared to all other stationary karts as you've already got momentum, which as you know makes a big difference in karting. IMHO i dont think thats within the limits at all, it's clearly outside of them.
This is the only time I’ve ever done this just due to having a bit of a mind blank and using electric karts a lot recently, as I mentioned previously.
At the end of the day, I just didn’t want a repeat of what happened before the restart took place 🤷🏾♂️
That crash looked brutal. You alright?😅 I’m a beginner (but kinda old 😄) karter and I really struggle with the slippery downstairs parts when the track is cold. Any advice?
Try to keep the kart as straight as possible and try not to drift through the corners. Use brakes gradually but still with enough pressure to reach max pressure on most corners (at least on this track) and be careful on the throttle as you want to get on it when the kart has settled and isn't sliding, although you can slightly feather it before going fully on the power coming out of a few low grip corners, for example the hairpin before the up ramp.
@ thanks man, noted!
All drivers were alright thankfully, including myself! 💪🏾
Advice Oskar has given is very good, one thing I noticed after not going for a while, was how light you have to be on the brake pedal to not lose too much momentum. The most I was pressing it towards the end was about 20% of the entire pedal to ensure the kart slowed but didn’t completely bog down under low speed.
Main advice however would be to not overdrive, aim to be smoother rather than faster if that makes sense? 👀
Tbf you are quite lucky that you didn't end up on top of another kart. Must've been a pretty clean crash record if that is your biggest!
I did actually manage to land on top of another kart but luckily it was just on the nassau so it caused me to bounce off straight away and we were both alright! Fingers crossed there’s no more like it in the near future! 😅
Random question, what camera do you use to record your races and what mount do you use to attach it to your helmet. Want to get one for a Xmas present. Cheers 👌
Not a problem, I use a Go Pro Hero 8 and have done for the last few years. Have never had any issues with the camera other than sometimes the batteries tend to die and play up a little bit when it gets towards an hour straight recording (although I record with 2.7K and not 1080p).
I just use the sticky pad mount that came with the camera kit and stuck it to the top of my helmet ready for the camera to be slotted into it.
Personally, I would have a look at the Go Pro Hero 9 - I think the batteries and stabilisation are a bit better on them and as it’s a little older now, you may be able to grab it for a decent price! 🤞🏾
@ thank you for the reply have gone for a hero 10 👌
That’s great, I hope you enjoy it! 🙌🏾
Standard BP
Just assorted chaos… 🤪
@@BenPaines is it should be
Main take away I'm taking from your videos is you Southern lot race alot more contact heavy then us northerners 😂 I need to race you somewhere like this and learn to just dive bomb
I think it’s time for you to venture to the scary south and see where the limits lie that you’re allowed to be in 😏
@BenPaines some podding incoming 😂😂
We do love a bit of podding 😍
The 8:30 group on Mondays use to think it was stockcar all bumper action and loading. I did an extra session with them and it was agressively fantastic. We all came out with 6 penalty points each and the fence came down.
Air bourne that’s decent mate 😂but the move on my mate mr ford fellow tubby club member was dodgy ish imo BIKC penalty for that I think 😉😉🤣but if your not trying to pass your not a racer etc so fair play for going for the gap as you normally do 😃🤷♂️👊🏻🤣
Was definitely not expecting to be flying on this evening 😭 Mr Ford loves the divebombs, this was definitely on the limit but considered a clean move in the eyes of the marshals 😌
Appreciate it as always Wayne, will always go for those gaps 🥰