No. Things are quite sane and regulated today but the history does 'scare' us that this happened and be warned. So probably, the lesson from history has brought in the sanity. Conspiracy theorists have another version, of course.
All these talk of the English East India Company conquering 'India' and exploiting it for business gain can be low-class academic nonsense. I can recommend to two books for another perspective that might give some startling revelations. 1. Malabar Manual by William Logan - along with a Commentary by VED from VICTORIA INSTITUTIONS 2. An Impressionistic History of the South Asian Subcontinent both can be downloaded from archiveOrg and download/read from academiaEdu. I have read both and can mention that the information contained in these two book are fabulous.
@@francisalexander1420 There was an occult reason for the set up of East India Company.. The same reason of the set up of the virginia company Utube : the new Atlantis Google : peter pope first fruit of east india company.. The birth trust under Roman licence (papal decleration of war in 1452 dum diversas ) .. It is a war game run in bankruptcy and double book entry system knownnas Christ ..but in reverse ...becaus we , through the fruits of the war company..the birth trust ...lend to the banking system of the war game and its corporations known as countries and their central banks .. Utube : banks dont lend money , banks dont take deposits Utueb : birth certificate waht is your status Thst is the real fruit and harvest of the Company.. India is still a crown franchise.. Independence means franchsie so does liberty.. Google : british paramiuntcy cabinet mission Independence act clearly states the head of state the crown appointing a rep.of its paramiunt power as mountbatten as governor general.. Head of state was still king george vi.. The secret is kept by an ingenous mass mind control program of spirts and movies. keeping people distracted to the remedy..which is to reduce debt at the Ctown treasury Its all an accounting game ... We lend our credit who work to make credit scare to us..but available for corporates ... We r the opium that is farmed ...
I am a retired American ... I always said after I was retired I would be able to read books ... I have been curious about the East India Company ... I have order Dalrymple's book ....
"The biggest reason for the British Empire being the largest in world history was that the United Kingdom was the first truly capitalist state, the primarily means was less of military occupation, and more of the need to make money at all costs... 'Money is more powerful than a gun' "
It still is! We explore ideas in a variety of ways. It's very difficult to re-create our debates in a digital format and also expensive. We have lost almost all revenue since the pandemic so please bare with us. If you want to see our next debate, it's on cancel culture with Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Billy Bragg on September 22: www.intelligencesquared.com/events/cancel-culture-is-threatening-our-freedoms/
The subject matter is fascinating, and mr. Dalrymple seems like he knows what he's talking about. It's a shame that the video is virtually unwatchable due to the horrendous video and audio quality.
There’s rare opportunities to share this material but since you both listened to this and find it fascinating....check out the documentary The Spider’s Web Britain’s Second Empire. It’s on RUclips. While the documentary is really good the at length interviews that the documentary pulled from are what’s great. There’s prob 6-8 interviews about the material and it’s dry..but so so good. I can’t over state it
It angers me immensely to hear that 'WE' British were exploiting India for 'OUR' benefit. My ancestors were coal miners in the lands of the Earls of Dalhousie under bonded labour, where children as young as 8 went into his coalmines in what was nothing other than slave labour. Working for the same Earls of Dalhousie who were Governors of the HEIC in India. As i live only 1 mile from the grand castle which was funded by the blood and sweat of my ancestors and of the Indians why should i feel i have to apologise what Britain did to India - Let those who raped the wealth of India apologise and please stop using the word 'WE'. A case of 2 colliers who fled the hardships of the Lothian coalfields were arrested in Glasgow by the militia and charged for the crime of 'stealing themselves from their employers'. This also needs to be taught in schools as well as what the 'privileged' classes did in the Empire.
I don’t think anyone is asking you to apologise - this may be missing the point. It is to recognise that the present wealth of this country, our collective ability to live a relatively privileged life, was built on a system of global exploitation. If we understood this as a population we would have entirely different outcomes in terms of our politics, and views on race. There would be less talk of who does and who doesn’t belong here due to an understanding that the ‘resource’ of the country that many believe to have a undisputed right to due to their native ancestry, was actually built on the plunder and pillage of nations and people’s around the world. Yes your ancestors may have been exploited, and mine may have been relatively wealthy despite living in a colonial country, but today only one of us is Universally viewed as having a right to this nations resource. Only one of us is likely to face discrimination at every level of our society, and only one of us is excluded from the vision of what it is to be ‘really British’ . Honestly, I think you are right to point out the parallels between the two experiences so thank you. perhaps it’s the point that history acknowledges the challenges your ancestors faced, while it ignores and erases the experiences expressed here. Without making presumptions, the majority of Britain’s should support movements like Black lives matter, racial equality, and the uplift of marginalised peoples across races. Instead of thinking ‘what about the white working class’ why isn’t the discussion framed that the majority of non white britiains are working class, or have working class roots so why aren’t we all collaborating to speak truth to the power you rightly call out.
I understand your anger. However, I feel your comment is slightly off the mark. In addition to what AshYoung has said, perhaps I can add a personal Indian perspective to it. We understand that the race to the top by European rulers, made it necessary to exploit the world's natural resources. After all, Europe is the poorest continent in the world - in terms of natural resources. That doesn't makethe exploitation right. India (by consesus) had 23% percent of the world's GDP before the EIC arrived - it has 2% when they left. The fact that Britain today has unemployment support, a high GDP per capita and India doesn't, would perhaps be the other way around - if it weren't for the Empire. By extension, I wouldn't be here, if you weren't there. Whether your ancestors were exploited or not, the fact that you have the leisure to voice your opinions on RUclips, and the vast majority of Indians won't even comphrehend this topic (they're trying to survive), demonstrates that you have benefitted from the EIC and its shenanigans. And if by chance, people think this "Raj" mentality is over - it isn't. Not that things like Knighthood matter - but for a moment, let's pretend it does. Rabrindranath Tagore (the last Indian to be knighted) returned the knighthood, after the Amritsar Massacare in the 1910s. There have been no subsequent knighthoods. We have a Sir Andrew Strauss and no Sir Sunil Gavaskar? How ridiculous can the world get?!! If I was to extend your logic, the Amritsar massacre was not Dyer's fault. The troops who fired were Indian. History is written by the victors. Once the wrongs are righted on a global level, the internal minutiae can, and will be, dealt with. An official apology and a token amount of £1 per year (as suggested by Tharoor in his Oxford Union address) will suffice. I don't think that's asking for much. But then I feel America should apologise to Japan for the atomic bombs. Who's going to open that can of worms?
Alistair Graham I once read a article about how they used to use young lads to go out in the North Sea on the old fishing boats , there was this one boy that didn’t like it so never turned up for the next trip out , they locked him up in Lincoln goal for a few weeks , when he was released he was forced to go back to sea , he was only 13 yrs of age , it looks like this sort of thing went on in all main industries
So good to know all this. Thankyou Interviewer and Mr Dalrymple. Quite enlightening ( for someone who hasn’t read much about history, or gone into it’s depths)
It's not complex, the fact remains India was never a country, it's the British who Moulded India into a nation. The British company conquered the Region of India, not a country. That's why they were able to take over step by step, with the support of different groups. Because each group was different, not Indian, but with their own distinct identity. Please do not confuse the issues. You study history so stop presenting India as a historical country, because it's a fat faced lie.
Kavita, you seem to leading with your questions as a news presenter would, rather than trying to help the man pass on his knowledge... Only 18 mins in so far, I do hope my opinion changes. 😐
India is still a crown franchise. Google : british paramountcy cabinet mission Head of state of india AFTER independence act was still king geirge the vi. Independence legally means franchise ..the dominion of india has the crown franch of paramountcy... Read the section on suzereinty in the independence act .. King george transfered the paramountcy , suzereinty to mountbatten It is used to still farm the resources of india for london commodity markets in the city corproation. Nothing has changed...its the same extractionnof resources based not on the farming of opium but on the farming of human energy. US is a also a crown corporation Google : 2108 US is a Crown Corpiration
Your question stunned me. It beggars belief. Did you listen to any of the video? The EIC massively pillaged a whole country, continually, and to do so had to build the necessary infrastructure in order to carry it out. You want to know when the cost of the pillaging infrastructure is returned? Are you serious? Or just seriously cretinous? That's akin to some uncooth moron jumping in an uber-taxi to drive to break into a dignified woman's house, beat her, eat her food, steal her belongings, rape her and then ask her when she will return the cost of the uber-taxi ride!
@@transvestosaurus878 I'm not rewriting History. Are you saying that the British made no investment in India? I made no claims or assumptions that the EIC were a good Corporation. Nor do I think that the EIC were the primary investors in India. The British Government/people invested far more into India than they ever got back. Even just in terms of the cost of winning the war against Mysore/Maratha when they arrived. Throughout British rule the tax base of India was very low. Income from India was almost all trade taxes on goods imported and profits. The Indian people paid for very little. Not schools, roads, policing, railroads, defense anything. I'm not saying that British rule was a picnic, but simply ignoring any of the trillions of dollars of investment in India is rewriting history. I know it isn't fashionable to say anything good about colonialism, but India might well have become Muslim and more like Iraq and Iran today if the British hadn't got involved. It very likely would have been divided and the two sides still fighting today, if the India/Pakistan relationship is anything to go by.
I hope that you have a clear idea about the fact why India and Pakistan were made. And you have the knowledge of the population in the each part of the country where the British did their businesses and made their profits. I think it's better to do your smart calculations after that. But if you value a few infrastructures more than lives, please don't even try. We were always open about a few open ideas. Now, after years of looting(so called "The business of British Empires"),we act like slaves. If it was such a beautiful relationship, you might have think like a business partner, not try to calculate profits after almost 75 years or better we might not had to fight for freedom. Now India has become about Hindu and Muslims. But if you open the history book, you will find where India used to stand because of which the foreigners were able to make such molding. And you will find from where such conservation for culture becomes important for Hindus. If you are talking as an outsider, at least try to look the full picture in space and time. And if you're trying to find sanity of the profitable business, please do yoga or some physical exercises and calm yourself.
So some one criticises him on internet and he is blaming RSS and Modi. He lives in India and forms his opinion based on what he reads in the blogs. Does he ever get out of comfort of his home and find out what is happening in the real world. Who is responsible for loss of pluralism real or imagined ? Does he not as a historian sense that there many forces operating in in present day India particularly the Christian , Muslim and Communist variety to break India . If Hindus voice their concern and protest then they are blamed for supporting RSS. Does he not admit that it is Hinduism with its respect for other religions that is responsible for pluralism in India? He seems to lose his objectivity whenever it comes to Muslims and Muslim rulers. It is fear of losing this tolerant Hinduness or Hindutva that most Hindus fear in this country. Bringing Nazism in to this debate is out of all proportions and is only the reflection of his European mindset.
India is still east india company 3.0 Eic 2.0 is the US ..same flag There is an occult reason Google : peter pope first fruits of the east india company. The fruits are still the secularised baptism..known as birth certifocate . Utube : birth certificate what is your status India is still a crown franchise .independence means franchise Franchose is that of paramiuntcy Google : british paramountcy cabinet mission Head of state of indepnedant india was still king george the vi Read the sextion of independence act on suzereinty..which is paramountcy Google : indian navy flag Anarchy fuels the deep state control of india c9mpany
@his1ojd There is an occult reason Google : peter pope first fruits of the east india company. The fruits are still the secularised baptism..known as birth certifocate . Utube : birth certificate what is your status India is still a crown franchise .independence means franchise Franchose is that of paramiuntcy Google : british paramountcy cabinet mission Head of state of indepnedant india was still king george the vi Read the sextion of independence act on suzereinty..which is paramountcy Google : indian navy flag
I love how I'm being sold with the bald head. That must really suck to be a pretty boy and trying to get my attention with pristine hair. I'm not exactly choosing because of that, but I do have to say I get baldness.
Wow, amazing!...what duplicity: the RSS is comparable to the Nazis; yet.. the English who also committed atrocities against unarmed civilians in more CW countries it ruled; decimating indigenous communities, gets a clean chit...! If under Modi it is heading towards a nationalist and facist country (although he has been the PM since 2014) people of your influence should encourage the UK government not to trade with India. And Mr Dalrymple ought you not to leave India, like now, or are u still there enjoying the fruits of that country?
@his1ojd There is an occult reason Google : peter pope first fruits of the east india company. The fruits are still the secularised baptism..known as birth certifocate . Utube : birth certificate what is your status India is still a crown franchise .independence means franchise Franchose is that of paramiuntcy Google : british paramountcy cabinet mission Head of state of indepnedant india was still king george the vi Read the sextion of independence act on suzereinty..which is paramountcy Google : indian navy flag
@his1ojd There is an occult reason Google : peter pope first fruits of the east india company. The fruits are still the secularised baptism..known as birth certifocate . Utube : birth certificate what is your status India is still a crown franchise .independence means franchise Franchose is that of paramiuntcy Google : british paramountcy cabinet mission Head of state of indepnedant india was still king george the vi Read the sextion of independence act on suzereinty..which is paramountcy Google : indian navy flag
Do you think there are corporations today with the same power as The East India Company in it's prime?
Ofcourse!!!
No. Things are quite sane and regulated today but the history does 'scare' us that this happened and be warned. So probably, the lesson from history has brought in the sanity. Conspiracy theorists have another version, of course.
Read Panama papers. Many background corporations are worse than this
All these talk of the English East India Company conquering 'India' and exploiting it for business gain can be low-class academic nonsense. I can recommend to two books for another perspective that might give some startling revelations.
1. Malabar Manual by William Logan - along with a Commentary by VED from VICTORIA INSTITUTIONS
2. An Impressionistic History of the South Asian Subcontinent
both can be downloaded from archiveOrg and download/read from academiaEdu.
I have read both and can mention that the information contained in these two book are fabulous.
@@francisalexander1420
There was an occult reason for the set up of East India Company..
The same reason of the set up of the virginia company
Utube : the new Atlantis
Google : peter pope first fruit of east india company..
The birth trust under Roman licence (papal decleration of war in 1452 dum diversas )
..
It is a war game run in bankruptcy and double book entry system knownnas Christ ..but in reverse ...becaus we , through the fruits of the war company..the birth trust ...lend to the banking system of the war game and its corporations known as countries and their central banks ..
Utube : banks dont lend money , banks dont take deposits
Utueb : birth certificate waht is your status
Thst is the real fruit and harvest of the Company..
India is still a crown franchise..
Independence means franchsie so does liberty..
Google : british paramiuntcy cabinet mission
Independence act clearly states the head of state the crown appointing a rep.of its paramiunt power as mountbatten as governor general..
Head of state was still king george vi..
The secret is kept by an ingenous mass mind control program of spirts and movies. keeping people distracted to the remedy..which is to reduce debt at the Ctown treasury
Its all an accounting game ...
We lend our credit who work to make credit scare to us..but available for corporates ...
We r the opium that is farmed ...
I am a retired American ... I always said after I was retired I would be able to read books ... I have been curious about the East India Company ... I have order Dalrymple's book ....
Brilliant Book!
"The biggest reason for the British Empire being the largest in world history was that the United Kingdom was the first truly capitalist state, the primarily means was less of military occupation, and more of the need to make money at all costs... 'Money is more powerful than a gun' "
I appreciate the effort, but it might be wise to have a sound engineer tidy up the sound, just because it's quite hard to listen to.
Remember when I2 was a debate between two sides? I miss those days.
It still is! We explore ideas in a variety of ways. It's very difficult to re-create our debates in a digital format and also expensive. We have lost almost all revenue since the pandemic so please bare with us. If you want to see our next debate, it's on cancel culture with Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Billy Bragg on September 22: www.intelligencesquared.com/events/cancel-culture-is-threatening-our-freedoms/
@@Intelligence-Squared why is is difficult to create a debate but easier to create a table with three people who agree.
@Vanessa Johnson how? Can you brief me
The subject matter is fascinating, and mr. Dalrymple seems like he knows what he's talking about. It's a shame that the video is virtually unwatchable due to the horrendous video and audio quality.
There’s rare opportunities to share this material but since you both listened to this and find it fascinating....check out the documentary The Spider’s Web Britain’s Second Empire. It’s on RUclips.
While the documentary is really good the at length interviews that the documentary pulled from are what’s great. There’s prob 6-8 interviews about the material and it’s dry..but so so good. I can’t over state it
Dalrymple is brilliant. Excellent grasp of history and attention to detail makes him so enjoyable to listen to
What a pity the audio quality so bad.
Hi Malexa, yes a shame but the quality gets better as the video goes on. William Dalrymple joined us from high up in the Scottish Highlands!
@@Intelligence-Squared 😊I will persevere👍
@@Intelligence-Squared agony & ecstasy. Audio frustrated me until end but impossible to let go! The book ordered via Amazon🙃😉.
@@BlueInk912 I just wanted to say the book is BRILLIANT!
It angers me immensely to hear that 'WE' British were exploiting India for 'OUR' benefit. My ancestors were coal miners in the lands of the Earls of Dalhousie under bonded labour, where children as young as 8 went into his coalmines in what was nothing other than slave labour. Working for the same Earls of Dalhousie who were Governors of the HEIC in India. As i live only 1 mile from the grand castle which was funded by the blood and sweat of my ancestors and of the Indians why should i feel i have to apologise what Britain did to India - Let those who raped the wealth of India apologise and please stop using the word 'WE'. A case of 2 colliers who fled the hardships of the Lothian coalfields were arrested in Glasgow by the militia and charged for the crime of 'stealing themselves from their employers'. This also needs to be taught in schools as well as what the 'privileged' classes did in the Empire.
I don’t think anyone is asking you to apologise - this may be missing the point. It is to recognise that the present wealth of this country, our collective ability to live a relatively privileged life, was built on a system of global exploitation. If we understood this as a population we would have entirely different outcomes in terms of our politics, and views on race. There would be less talk of who does and who doesn’t belong here due to an understanding that the ‘resource’ of the country that many believe to have a undisputed right to due to their native ancestry, was actually built on the plunder and pillage of nations and people’s around the world. Yes your ancestors may have been exploited, and mine may have been relatively wealthy despite living in a colonial country, but today only one of us is Universally viewed as having a right to this nations resource. Only one of us is likely to face discrimination at every level of our society, and only one of us is excluded from the vision of what it is to be ‘really British’ . Honestly, I think you are right to point out the parallels between the two experiences so thank you. perhaps it’s the point that history acknowledges the challenges your ancestors faced, while it ignores and erases the experiences expressed here. Without making presumptions, the majority of Britain’s should support movements like Black lives matter, racial equality, and the uplift of marginalised peoples across races. Instead of thinking ‘what about the white working class’ why isn’t the discussion framed that the majority of non white britiains are working class, or have working class roots so why aren’t we all collaborating to speak truth to the power you rightly call out.
@@AshYoung7 because BLM and the Woke first and foremost denigrate whites before aspiring to equality of the races.
I understand your anger. However, I feel your comment is slightly off the mark. In addition to what AshYoung has said, perhaps I can add a personal Indian perspective to it.
We understand that the race to the top by European rulers, made it necessary to exploit the world's natural resources. After all, Europe is the poorest continent in the world - in terms of natural resources. That doesn't makethe exploitation right. India (by consesus) had 23% percent of the world's GDP before the EIC arrived - it has 2% when they left. The fact that Britain today has unemployment support, a high GDP per capita and India doesn't, would perhaps be the other way around - if it weren't for the Empire.
By extension, I wouldn't be here, if you weren't there.
Whether your ancestors were exploited or not, the fact that you have the leisure to voice your opinions on RUclips, and the vast majority of Indians won't even comphrehend this topic (they're trying to survive), demonstrates that you have benefitted from the EIC and its shenanigans.
And if by chance, people think this "Raj" mentality is over - it isn't. Not that things like Knighthood matter - but for a moment, let's pretend it does. Rabrindranath Tagore (the last Indian to be knighted) returned the knighthood, after the Amritsar Massacare in the 1910s. There have been no subsequent knighthoods. We have a Sir Andrew Strauss and no Sir Sunil Gavaskar? How ridiculous can the world get?!!
If I was to extend your logic, the Amritsar massacre was not Dyer's fault. The troops who fired were Indian.
History is written by the victors. Once the wrongs are righted on a global level, the internal minutiae can, and will be, dealt with. An official apology and a token amount of £1 per year (as suggested by Tharoor in his Oxford Union address) will suffice. I don't think that's asking for much.
But then I feel America should apologise to Japan for the atomic bombs. Who's going to open that can of worms?
Alistair Graham
I once read a article about how they used to use young lads to go out in the North Sea on the old fishing boats , there was this one boy that didn’t like it so never turned up for the next trip out , they locked him up in Lincoln goal for a few weeks , when he was released he was forced to go back to sea , he was only 13 yrs of age , it looks like this sort of thing went on in all main industries
That would be the British establishment.
Can you please upload it again vedio
So good to know all this. Thankyou Interviewer and Mr Dalrymple. Quite enlightening ( for someone who hasn’t read much about history, or gone into it’s depths)
Does IQ2 sell merchandise??
Interesting reading with follow up discussion forums like this! ..#TradeInContext #HistoryPerspective
Sir,would you believe East India Co had covert support of indian hindus and princely states.
It's not complex, the fact remains India was never a country, it's the British who Moulded India into a nation.
The British company conquered the Region of India, not a country. That's why they were able to take over step by step, with the support of different groups. Because each group was different, not Indian, but with their own distinct identity.
Please do not confuse the issues. You study history so stop presenting India as a historical country, because it's a fat faced lie.
Thank you for sharing
Kavita, you seem to leading with your questions as a news presenter would, rather than trying to help the man pass on his knowledge... Only 18 mins in so far, I do hope my opinion changes. 😐
Powis castle forbids people to take photos of the artefacts there. If that is not shame, I do t k ow what is.
Way to confirm my sentiments with the hair stroke.
Biased, Hinduphobic distortians like Dalrymple shouldn't be given a platform. Unsubscribing.
India is still a crown franchise.
Google : british paramountcy cabinet mission
Head of state of india AFTER independence act was still king geirge the vi.
Independence legally means franchise ..the dominion of india has the crown franch of paramountcy...
Read the section on suzereinty in the independence act ..
King george transfered the paramountcy , suzereinty to mountbatten
It is used to still farm the resources of india for london commodity markets in the city corproation.
Nothing has changed...its the same extractionnof resources based not on the farming of opium but on the farming of human energy.
US is a also a crown corporation
Google : 2108 US is a Crown Corpiration
So no mention of the massive investment in infrastructure made by the British? When will India be paying that back?
Your question stunned me. It beggars belief. Did you listen to any of the video? The EIC massively pillaged a whole country, continually, and to do so had to build the necessary infrastructure in order to carry it out. You want to know when the cost of the pillaging infrastructure is returned? Are you serious? Or just seriously cretinous? That's akin to some uncooth moron jumping in an uber-taxi to drive to break into a dignified woman's house, beat her, eat her food, steal her belongings, rape her and then ask her when she will return the cost of the uber-taxi ride!
Don't try to rewrite history. If the EIC spent more than it earned then it wouldn't have been a very good corporation would it?!
@@transvestosaurus878 I'm not rewriting History. Are you saying that the British made no investment in India?
I made no claims or assumptions that the EIC were a good Corporation. Nor do I think that the EIC were the primary investors in India. The British Government/people invested far more into India than they ever got back.
Even just in terms of the cost of winning the war against Mysore/Maratha when they arrived. Throughout British rule the tax base of India was very low. Income from India was almost all trade taxes on goods imported and profits.
The Indian people paid for very little. Not schools, roads, policing, railroads, defense anything.
I'm not saying that British rule was a picnic, but simply ignoring any of the trillions of dollars of investment in India is rewriting history.
I know it isn't fashionable to say anything good about colonialism, but India might well have become Muslim and more like Iraq and Iran today if the British hadn't got involved. It very likely would have been divided and the two sides still fighting today, if the India/Pakistan relationship is anything to go by.
I hope that you have a clear idea about the fact why India and Pakistan were made. And you have the knowledge of the population in the each part of the country where the British did their businesses and made their profits. I think it's better to do your smart calculations after that. But if you value a few infrastructures more than lives, please don't even try. We were always open about a few open ideas. Now, after years of looting(so called "The business of British Empires"),we act like slaves. If it was such a beautiful relationship, you might have think like a business partner, not try to calculate profits after almost 75 years or better we might not had to fight for freedom. Now India has become about Hindu and Muslims. But if you open the history book, you will find where India used to stand because of which the foreigners were able to make such molding. And you will find from where such conservation for culture becomes important for Hindus. If you are talking as an outsider, at least try to look the full picture in space and time. And if you're trying to find sanity of the profitable business, please do yoga or some physical exercises and calm yourself.
@@TheToledoTrumpton 40:40 you should really watch the video
This man is NOT a scientist.
So some one criticises him on internet and he is blaming RSS and Modi. He lives in India and forms his opinion based on what he reads in the blogs. Does he ever get out of comfort of his home and find out what is happening in the real world. Who is responsible for loss of pluralism real or imagined ? Does he not as a historian sense that there many forces operating in in present day India particularly the Christian , Muslim and Communist variety to break India . If Hindus voice their concern and protest then they are blamed for supporting RSS. Does he not admit that it is Hinduism with its respect for other religions that is responsible for pluralism in India? He seems to lose his objectivity whenever it comes to Muslims and Muslim rulers. It is fear of losing this tolerant Hinduness or Hindutva that most Hindus fear in this country. Bringing Nazism in to this debate is out of all proportions and is only the reflection of his European mindset.
India is still east india company 3.0
Eic 2.0 is the US ..same flag
There is an occult reason
Google : peter pope first fruits of the east india company.
The fruits are still the secularised baptism..known as birth certifocate .
Utube : birth certificate what is your status
India is still a crown franchise .independence means franchise
Franchose is that of paramiuntcy
Google : british paramountcy cabinet mission
Head of state of indepnedant india was still king george the vi
Read the sextion of independence act on suzereinty..which is paramountcy
Google : indian navy flag
Anarchy fuels the deep state control of india c9mpany
@his1ojd
There is an occult reason
Google : peter pope first fruits of the east india company.
The fruits are still the secularised baptism..known as birth certifocate .
Utube : birth certificate what is your status
India is still a crown franchise .independence means franchise
Franchose is that of paramiuntcy
Google : british paramountcy cabinet mission
Head of state of indepnedant india was still king george the vi
Read the sextion of independence act on suzereinty..which is paramountcy
Google : indian navy flag
I love how I'm being sold with the bald head.
That must really suck to be a pretty boy and trying to get my attention with pristine hair.
I'm not exactly choosing because of that, but I do have to say I get baldness.
Wow, amazing!...what duplicity: the RSS is comparable to the Nazis; yet.. the English who also committed atrocities against unarmed civilians in more CW countries it ruled; decimating indigenous communities, gets a clean chit...! If under Modi it is heading towards a nationalist and facist country (although he has been the PM since 2014) people of your influence should encourage the UK government not to trade with India. And Mr Dalrymple ought you not to leave India, like now, or are u still there enjoying the fruits of that country?
@his1ojd
There is an occult reason
Google : peter pope first fruits of the east india company.
The fruits are still the secularised baptism..known as birth certifocate .
Utube : birth certificate what is your status
India is still a crown franchise .independence means franchise
Franchose is that of paramiuntcy
Google : british paramountcy cabinet mission
Head of state of indepnedant india was still king george the vi
Read the sextion of independence act on suzereinty..which is paramountcy
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There is an occult reason
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The fruits are still the secularised baptism..known as birth certifocate .
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India is still a crown franchise .independence means franchise
Franchose is that of paramiuntcy
Google : british paramountcy cabinet mission
Head of state of indepnedant india was still king george the vi
Read the sextion of independence act on suzereinty..which is paramountcy
Google : indian navy flag