EKATERINA GORDEEVA AND SERGEI GRINKOV.

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2013
  • AT THE HOLIDAY FESTIVAL ON ICE 1990S.
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  • @mariezurie2172
    @mariezurie2172 2 года назад +40

    They are the best skating pair-yes, of all time. The way he looks at his beloved Katia about 59seconds into this video is priceless! Such love and devotion. Now as I watch-all their performances bring tears to my eyes.
    Their performance inspired by sculptor Auguste Rodin's "The Kiss" is mesmerizing. It felt like we were watching a most tender and loving moment between them.
    We celebrated their Gold Medals and we grieved for our loss-when in reality-I think we grieved for Katia's loss.

  • @lesleywilbourne7823
    @lesleywilbourne7823 4 года назад +155

    This is one of the most beautiful and romantic things I have seen, and probably will never see again, on the ice. They painted a picture of their love for each other - i almost feel as if I was eavesdropping at their bedroom door. Life is so cruel at times, isn’t it? I am just so grateful that there are many recordings available on RUclips so their perfection and beauty have not been lost. I am still left feeling sad for the performances that were yet to come 😥😥😥

    • @whitecat3923
      @whitecat3923 3 года назад +10

      Absolutely true!!..

    • @Timbergal
      @Timbergal 2 года назад +13

      They made love thru their skating…it was so sensual

    • @sole26881
      @sole26881 Месяц назад +1

      You say it so true💐

  • @ulrikemayer6911
    @ulrikemayer6911 3 года назад +33

    These two had an aura of magic when they danced on ice. It was not only a profession, it was love. So sad that Sergei died so young...

  • @user-hj9lo3tp7q
    @user-hj9lo3tp7q 2 года назад +34

    Балет на льду!!!! Супермены!!!! Их никому не повторить!!!! Просто тают на льду от любви!!! Катя просто тает в лучах Сергея!!!! Очень печально, что всё так случилось, очень печально. Светлая память Сергею.

  • @aleidixon4226
    @aleidixon4226 3 года назад +26

    Every time I watch them it seems like they are floating in a world of their own. There will never be another pair so perfectly suited for skating and magic.

  • @deborahsanders8564
    @deborahsanders8564 3 года назад +29

    I watched them skate from their earliest years. Their beauty and love for one another, and of course their skating, was always exceptional. It still grieves me to know we’ll never see that magic on ice again.

  • @user-qp5zi7px5y
    @user-qp5zi7px5y 2 года назад +21

    Очень талантливая пара. Столько лёгкости в движениях, они созданы друг для друга. Они неповторимы!

  • @Curiousever
    @Curiousever 4 года назад +34

    He always treated her so gently, throwing her so carefully and she would float down like a feather.

  • @user-hc5tl3ev3u
    @user-hc5tl3ev3u 3 года назад +21

    На них можно смотреть бесконечно. Какие они тут счастливые!Катюша и Сергей. КАК ЖАЛЬ,что никогда не увидим эту пару больше никогда вживую .

  • @ursula1893
    @ursula1893 2 года назад +11

    I never get tired of watching them perform their magic on ice. It's so many years later but when I watch these videos I'm taken right back to that time. What a rotten trick fate played on them. 💗💗💗💗

  • @patgrant8881
    @patgrant8881 3 года назад +28

    I’m so grateful there are videos of Katarina and Sergei. Their story is unforgettable and beautiful.

    • @user-bg7bo5ek7j
      @user-bg7bo5ek7j 2 года назад +1

      Спасибо за Ваши молитвы. Сережа был истинный христианин. Он венчался с Катей и их брак законный перед Богом.

  • @user-uj6tp7mx9y
    @user-uj6tp7mx9y 3 года назад +56

    Изумительная, прекрасная и лучшая пара в мире! И эта пара навсегда остаётся историей!!!

  • @brookeclay5979
    @brookeclay5979 5 лет назад +42

    My favorite G&G program. So much love on display! Sergei will never be forgotten, and no pair will ever come close to this magic.

  • @oidowgundegmaa7245
    @oidowgundegmaa7245 2 года назад +8

    Amazing performance!!! RIP beautiful Sergei Grinkov

  • @bethjanelle20
    @bethjanelle20 6 лет назад +50

    I just came across this - thank you for posting. G & G were grace personified on the ice. You never heard a sound as they skimmed across the ice. Sergei always held Katia like she was a precious being that needed to be treasured. When he placed her back on the ice after a lift, it was seamless. Again there was no sound of the skates digging in, it was just the magical connection that propelled them further down the ice. Their hearts beat as one. They were always in perfect harmony. They were simply the best! It is bittersweet to see these performance again. Blessings to all

  • @stanislavgryshakov7294
    @stanislavgryshakov7294 3 года назад +31

    Какая радость созерцать катание такой неповторимой пары !!! Эталон на все времена !!! КРАСОТА , А ВДРУГ ДЕЙСТВИТЕЛЬНО, СПАСЁТ МИР !!!!!!

    • @whitecat3923
      @whitecat3923 3 года назад +2

      Нет, одной красоте это точно не под силу!!) 🙂

  • @user-wk8mr3iy4s
    @user-wk8mr3iy4s 3 года назад +40

    Изумительная пара!!!Лучшая в фигурном катании.

  • @misschanandlerbong5918
    @misschanandlerbong5918 5 лет назад +35

    I have never seen a man love a woman as much as Sergei did Katia.

    • @patriciasmith5155
      @patriciasmith5155 5 лет назад +12

      me neither he loved her with all of his being with his soul

  • @demickmarie
    @demickmarie 3 года назад +14

    I will never tire watching these two beautiful people💛
    both very talented,one taken from us to soon.praying for the soul of sergei♥️

  • @MTknitter22
    @MTknitter22 2 года назад +9

    The Russian training must be at the foundation of WHY there is a grace and elegance that nobody else touches. G&G are the top of the top Sure miss them

  • @aleciabjorlie3103
    @aleciabjorlie3103 3 года назад +18

    Watching them skate is so relaxing. Every move seems so effortless because they are that good. They were such a beautiful couple. RIP Sergei 💜✨🕊

  • @patriciasmith5155
    @patriciasmith5155 5 лет назад +31

    I absolutely adore Sergei and Katia this is so so beautiful

  • @patriciasmith5155
    @patriciasmith5155 5 лет назад +30

    OMG cant stop watching this its so beautiful the hand and arm movements the smoothness like they are floating on ice the smiles between them the closeness oh my oh my oh my i am so in love with G&G

  • @rennekevanoostenbruggen1795
    @rennekevanoostenbruggen1795 10 дней назад +1

    Ik kan dit elke dag wel bekijken ,zooo mooi❤❤❤❤

  • @juliaaruya7267
    @juliaaruya7267 8 лет назад +72

    This couple still leaves me breathless watching their programs. I continue to pray for the soul of this amazing man and peace for those he left behind.

    • @biancahotca3244
      @biancahotca3244 5 лет назад +3

      there's no point in praying for the soul of someone who died. it won't help with anything. plus it's not Biblical.

    • @Nuhuh18
      @Nuhuh18 9 месяцев назад

      @@biancahotca3244 and? U cant tell her what to do.

  • @Rose-Rae
    @Rose-Rae 3 года назад +14

    They are beauty, love and magic on ice.

  • @Carolmaizy
    @Carolmaizy 3 года назад +10

    So beautiful together!

  • @Nikestales
    @Nikestales 2 года назад +9

    Is it weird that I feel like I’m watching an intense love story when they’re skating? They don’t even speak, they just skate. ❤️

  • @whitecat3923
    @whitecat3923 3 года назад +7

    It's magic!!💕 RIP, Sergei!..🥀

  • @mindy6691
    @mindy6691 3 года назад +6

    G and G masterpiece you can feel there love 💕 for each other in there skating xoxo rip Sergei 1967-1995💕🙏🏻❤️

  • @doreenregan3070
    @doreenregan3070 4 года назад +25

    I have never seen this performance before. Makes me realize how precious life and love is and what a gift they have given to us forever to appreciate it’s true meaning.

  • @marcleysens7716
    @marcleysens7716 7 лет назад +69

    Just perfect artistic expression. There was an unhurried flow to their skating, all in order to achieve the complete musical expression. The choreography was always great, and the technicality never fell short. This is such poetry. Great piece of music beautifully expressed.

  • @barbarawashington4664
    @barbarawashington4664 2 года назад +4

    So beautiful!! Love how they looked at each other, the smiles they gave each other and how tender he was with her!!! Such a gentle Gaint of a man. It hurts until this day to know that he died prematurely, way before his time. That is what saddens me so that they were separated by an oversight. But I am happy that he knew true love before he passed and that Katia had true loud. Sorry that Daria missed out on having the love of a father. 💕💕💕 Though I never meet Sergei or Katia I think of both of them fondly. Through their performances I know that true love really exists! May Katia have happiness in the remainder of her days, for I know Sergei did

  • @user-kp4qf2xp3m
    @user-kp4qf2xp3m Месяц назад

    Жили и любили!!! И на льду и в жизни!!! ПАРА НА ВСЕ ВРЕМЕНА❤

  • @rhondablack8079
    @rhondablack8079 10 месяцев назад +2

    This is my favorite of their many exquisite performances! Perfect music❤

  • @patriciasmith5155
    @patriciasmith5155 5 лет назад +30

    loved how he picked her up and put her down ever so gently

    • @user-hw3qy1xb7w
      @user-hw3qy1xb7w 4 года назад +3

      Patricia Smith Yes. With a great love and tenderness...

  • @cathyh.6111
    @cathyh.6111 5 лет назад +23

    I will never tire of these two magnificent athletes, so elegant. All their years of practice shines through, how lucky we were to witness their artistry and deep love, they brought out the best in each other. Thank you.

  • @user-eh3yu6mr2m
    @user-eh3yu6mr2m 5 лет назад +61

    Да они остались непревзойденнььми.истинное наслаждение смотреть на их катание.

    • @deanbartholomew8268
      @deanbartholomew8268 4 года назад +5

      Yes, they remained unsurpassed. A real spiritual experience to watch them skate.
      Russians have forged figure skating into a classical art form, blending aspects of sculpture, ballet and symphonies..bravo!
      Да, они остались непревзойденными. Настоящий духовный опыт наблюдать за их катанием. Русские превратили фигурное катание в форму классического искусства, смешав аспекты скульптуры, балета и симфонии ... Браво!

  • @divapie1
    @divapie1 6 лет назад +46

    One could feel the Love they had for each other.....so sad, so tragic, still brings tears to my eyes. They skated as one

  • @user-hw3qy1xb7w
    @user-hw3qy1xb7w 4 года назад +29

    Правильно комментатор сказал " 2 человека катаются как один."

  • @user-oe1lv5do5r
    @user-oe1lv5do5r 4 года назад +26

    Так нежно и трогательно!!! И так гармонично!!!

  • @angelab4156
    @angelab4156 10 лет назад +138

    I know she has a new husband. But her smile for him was beautiful. There will never be another Sergei for her.

    • @lasmombas
      @lasmombas  10 лет назад +24

      true,by the way they looked at each other you can tell they were truly in love,but the show must go on thanks for your comment.

    • @CandyisAwesome86
      @CandyisAwesome86 8 лет назад +28

      Her first love.

    • @ehmykyra9235
      @ehmykyra9235 6 лет назад +4

      TO ILIA AND KATIA AND DARIA AND LIZA ,HAPPY NEW YEAR 2018 TO ALL OF YOU . .FROM THE PHILIPPINES GREETING YOU . .

    • @kimberlybellefontaine1215
      @kimberlybellefontaine1215 6 лет назад +25

      I agree. Her smile is still beautiful.....but it was just something quite magical when she was with Sergei. Or maybe it was the light in her eyes. Or both💞💞

    • @dashaedmonds952
      @dashaedmonds952 6 лет назад +29

      Katia and her second husband are no longer together i think. According to the people's magazine. It is sad. But Sergei was her one true love

  • @user-pk5te5uz7s
    @user-pk5te5uz7s 5 лет назад +54

    Нет слов....до слез!!!! Поклон этим уникальным двум чудесам света...

  • @mariebueno3950
    @mariebueno3950 4 года назад +13

    😟💔😥 ... knowing Sergie is gone and Katia alone makes it painful and heartbreaking to watch and makes me cry..

  • @user-lw5xo8oy4w
    @user-lw5xo8oy4w 5 лет назад +47

    Прекрасно! Лучшая пара всех времен!

  • @robinkrajcik9537
    @robinkrajcik9537 3 года назад +8

    Thank you for sharing this lovely time in their lives. He was so in love with his wife and many could learn from these two. Bravi!

  • @tamaraklementieva415
    @tamaraklementieva415 6 лет назад +44

    Такая яркая, талантливая и короткая любовь.

    • @whitecat3923
      @whitecat3923 3 года назад

      А как любовь может быть 'талантливой'?..🤔

    • @lilyamuslimova6160
      @lilyamuslimova6160 2 года назад

      @@whitecat3923 А вот догадайся

  • @kimberlybellefontaine1215
    @kimberlybellefontaine1215 6 лет назад +31

    I still can’t seem to get enough of them....their gorgeous skating....and their beautiful (but tragic😔) love story....💞

  • @marianlizamientus3139
    @marianlizamientus3139 Год назад +2

    So smoothe and elegant. It would have been so enjoyable to see Sergei complete his skating career. I guess Dear God wanted Sergei to skate in Heaven.

  • @laurencangelosi38
    @laurencangelosi38 3 года назад +5

    Love never to be replicated

  • @edilalewis654
    @edilalewis654 3 года назад +6

    Absolutely beautiful

  • @user-sw7lv3hj6n
    @user-sw7lv3hj6n 3 года назад +29

    Нет слов выразить свою признательность спасибо человеческое вам за вашу отдачу своей работе. Сергею светлая память, Кате счастья.

    • @whitecat3923
      @whitecat3923 3 года назад +4

      Да, будем надеяться, что Катя будет наконец-то счастлива с Дэвидом Пелетье после неудачного брака с И.Куликом!..

    • @lilyamuslimova6160
      @lilyamuslimova6160 2 года назад

      @@whitecat3923 Вот только без сарказма....

  • @karenstewart1265
    @karenstewart1265 2 года назад +3

    ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS!
    They truly were the best pair skaters.
    RIP SG 💐 2021

    • @user-yz9dk2hp8e
      @user-yz9dk2hp8e 2 года назад +1

      2022 г...ПОМНИМ ЛЮБИМ СКОРБИМ

  • @judyevancic4926
    @judyevancic4926 2 года назад +2

    They were so lovely together. It has been a rough time for her to go forward without him. He left their daughter for her to focus on along with learning to skate as a single. She has done well. God bless them. 💫⭐️🌹🌷🙏👍

  • @L_91r
    @L_91r 3 года назад +3

    So viel Liebe, Zärtlichkeit gepaart mit einem unglaublichen Talent.. Fantastisch..

  • @amyp2063
    @amyp2063 7 лет назад +49

    These two were the best psir skaters I've ever seen. I'm glad she found happiness again, but Katia said herself she would never find happiness like she had with Sergei ever again. I'm sur he will always be in her heart. Daria looks so much like him.

    • @MTknitter22
      @MTknitter22 2 года назад +2

      A Moscow news channel did a joyous interview with Katia and David Pelletier her new husband since 2021. She said everyone has their share of heartaches - David has had his too - but life is a gift and I am very very fortunate and I know it Daria and her sister are now grown. It was a great interview!!

    • @MTknitter22
      @MTknitter22 2 года назад +2

      A Moscow news channel did a joyous interview with Katia and David Pelletier her new husband since 2021. She said everyone has their share of heartaches - David has had his too - but life is a gift and I am very very fortunate and I know it Daria and her sister are now grown. It was a great interview!!

    • @musicfan2511
      @musicfan2511 Год назад

      @@MTknitter22 wow, I’d love to see this, is it on RUclips?

  • @vickycroskey1843
    @vickycroskey1843 8 лет назад +37

    They are the best and always will be.

  • @miriamabad6779
    @miriamabad6779 2 года назад +2

    Los amo,me maravillan,me hipnotizan cuánta belleza!

  • @kewljade7192
    @kewljade7192 6 лет назад +20

    Love this couple-- best ever!!!

  • @tlillies5671
    @tlillies5671 Месяц назад

    Pure beauty and love - as usual♥

  • @vetere0599
    @vetere0599 5 лет назад +13

    I wish G&G was alive. It only lives through videos like this. I thank you for sharing. 🙏

  • @lindahamrick2571
    @lindahamrick2571 9 лет назад +31

    Wonderful then, wonderful now

    • @kimberlybellefontaine1215
      @kimberlybellefontaine1215 6 лет назад +4

      Linda Hamrick absolutely. They are perfectly timeless. They will live on in our hearts, our memories, and thankfully in all of these videos that I’m finding.

  • @sherylejeffers9491
    @sherylejeffers9491 5 лет назад +15

    When Sergei took Katia for a skate it = WOW

  • @suzannesmith8320
    @suzannesmith8320 3 года назад +4

    Life goes on and so does love but it will never be the same.Very sad .

  • @sharikagamhewa9310
    @sharikagamhewa9310 10 лет назад +21

    beautiful performance!! RIP sergei..

  • @user-hk5sv5ts3j
    @user-hk5sv5ts3j 2 года назад +2

    Молодые, красивые, талантливые....

  • @Ksahdia
    @Ksahdia 10 лет назад +35

    Thank you very much for sharing. I never watched this performance before. Always nice to find a new performance of G&G.

    • @kimberlybellefontaine1215
      @kimberlybellefontaine1215 6 лет назад +2

      Ksahdia yes, same here! I thought I’d seen everything available so far....and then I came across this. Just soooo beautiful, thank you.

  • @editabatan9198
    @editabatan9198 Год назад +1

    greatest pair!!!

  • @NosyHausfrau
    @NosyHausfrau 6 лет назад +22

    flawless skating, flawless love

    • @kimberlybellefontaine1215
      @kimberlybellefontaine1215 6 лет назад +6

      Nosy Hausfrau two people skating as one, two hearts beating as one...💞. It doesn’t get any better than this right here.

  • @SashaAiresse
    @SashaAiresse 9 лет назад +23

    ♥ Beautiful

  • @lyndabeam2622
    @lyndabeam2622 2 года назад +4

    Nobody does it better

  • @nettimatze
    @nettimatze 2 года назад +2

    Die besten Paarläufer aller Zeiten !

  • @Dan5819
    @Dan5819 Год назад +2

    There were like magic on ice.

  • @carmenrodriguez5320
    @carmenrodriguez5320 5 лет назад +10

    Amor puro.

  • @barbara8756
    @barbara8756 2 года назад +1

    Sooooo beautiful, i love them so much ❤😍👑

  • @ceylaanblue96
    @ceylaanblue96 6 лет назад +20

    They just float

  • @MsKendra79
    @MsKendra79 6 лет назад +8

    This is one of my favorite programs of theirs. I loved all of them but there's something about the music of Porgy and Bess. P.s. Boy that rink is tiny.

  • @user-ji4km7kl2m
    @user-ji4km7kl2m 2 года назад +4

    Да,это безусловно фантастическая программа.Сейчас можно говорить сексуальная...Но пробуждали красивые чувства, именно Любовь в широком смысле слова,хотелось и хочется работать над собой,стремиться к высоте,делать легко и достичь задуманное.Стремишься к гармонии человеческой души.Нет,они совершали подвиг .Вновь и вновь возвращаешься к тем дням,тому фигурному катанию.

  • @gabrielmccurdy2050
    @gabrielmccurdy2050 Месяц назад

    incomparable ❤

  • @janetmckenzie146
    @janetmckenzie146 2 года назад +2

    Sublime

  • @muchospelagre142
    @muchospelagre142 3 года назад +5

    It' s wonderful - grace, fluidity, elegance. Just perfect. But I wish there were no ugly patterns on the ice. They are not only useless, they are kind of ruining this piece of art. Why isn' t it possible to do things with sobriety?

  • @mmcs4973
    @mmcs4973 25 дней назад

    I always felt like a voyeur watching them skate, as though we were intruding on something so intimate, love in it's purest form

  • @user-er6lz9nq4z
    @user-er6lz9nq4z 2 года назад +1

    A Beautiful Couple …..

  • @gabua7959
    @gabua7959 3 года назад +2

    Ellos en su burbuja de amor disfrutando patinar y nosotros tenemos la dicha de ser sus testigos.

  • @braselton94
    @braselton94 6 лет назад +67

    Looks like Natalie Portman here. They need to make a movie about them! If they can do it for that idiot Tonya, certainly they can do it for these legends!

    • @kimberlybellefontaine1215
      @kimberlybellefontaine1215 6 лет назад +5

      Braselton94 I know, right?? You would think....sheesh.

    • @patriciasmith5155
      @patriciasmith5155 6 лет назад +13

      i personallly dont think they could ever be a movie good enough or actor and actress beautiful enough to fill katia and sergei boots most beautiful memories already on video, cameras all these montages and the book im addicted to watching the real G&G i love them with a passion x

    • @patriciasmith5155
      @patriciasmith5155 6 лет назад +5

      yes i have seen it broke my heart it was really good

    • @robinibershoff8811
      @robinibershoff8811 5 лет назад +2

      Braselton94 you told the truth!!

    • @wendyfiolek5914
      @wendyfiolek5914 5 лет назад +2

      A movie would be an awesome idea.

  • @ravenel2
    @ravenel2 3 года назад +6

    There are a million beautiful comments to say about this but this is the only video where her hair was so long that her ponytail could swing around and swish Sergei’s face when they were back to back. Just an observation.

  • @rosiedebevc1952
    @rosiedebevc1952 3 года назад +3

    She is divorced from her second husband. I do believe that her heart will always be thinking of Sergei.

  • @rhondablack8079
    @rhondablack8079 11 месяцев назад +2

    She has been with other partners on the ice but no one close to Katia with Sergei

  • @miyumiyu12
    @miyumiyu12 3 месяца назад

    What year is this from? Is it right before she got pregnant?

  • @ahimsa_kr
    @ahimsa_kr 6 лет назад +3

    is this Porgy and bass in 1994?

    • @kimberlybellefontaine1215
      @kimberlybellefontaine1215 6 лет назад +4

      jamboabantu yes, it’s Porgy & Bess. It must be around Christmas 1994.....because the announcer said they had two Olympic gold medals (their 2nd was in ‘94) and were married and had a baby. So it had to be Christmas/holiday 1994.....because he was gone already by Christmas 1995😢

  • @pamelahermano9298
    @pamelahermano9298 3 года назад +3

    I think that rink was too small for them.

  • @cherriecola6006
    @cherriecola6006 3 года назад +1

    Sergei looks so much like Ryan McCartan to me

  • @isabelitaranada7951
    @isabelitaranada7951 2 месяца назад

    So sad sergei died so young

  • @user-mj7fp6gx8x
    @user-mj7fp6gx8x 3 года назад +1

    Звук!!!

  • @rosiedebevc1952
    @rosiedebevc1952 3 года назад +2

    She is divorce from her 2nd husband. I don't think she remarried again.

    • @randicollier1367
      @randicollier1367 3 года назад +2

      It is hard when the only person you loved so deeply is taken from you. She tried to carry on but it is never the same when you have had the perfect love. I still cry for her because I will never experience that kind of love

    • @musicfan2511
      @musicfan2511 3 года назад +5

      She has remarried to David Pelletier now. It is quite obvious from her instagram posts although they never made an official announcement. And Katia has confirmed that she now lives in Canada.

    • @zhourong3761
      @zhourong3761 3 года назад +4

      @@musicfan2511 Katia has moved on, finding new love and support in her life. Twenty five years have passed since she lost Sergei at only 24. Katie never forgets Sergei and continues to share loving memory of him with Daria, her family, friends and fans through Instagram postings. Recently she wished "Happy Birthday" to Sergei on her Instagram on Feb 3, maybe because Moscow is about 10 hours ahead of North America. She did the same last year. I find myself moved by her thoughtful, loving messages.

    • @whitecat3923
      @whitecat3923 3 года назад +3

      @@zhourong3761 But there are no doubts, that Katya & David love each other now!!. She wouldn't marry him without love!!!

    • @zhourong3761
      @zhourong3761 3 года назад +4

      @@whitecat3923 I never question her love for DP. IMHO, to move on means accepting her loss. But it does not mean being forgetful of someone she loved deeply. Katia and Sergei were best friends, partners, soulmates, lovers, husband and wife, and proud parents of Daria. This extraordinary relationship, albeit tragically short, has shaped Katia's life experience and became an integral part of who she is. Two days ago, Katia told her Russian fans three qualities she finds important in men: 1) Respectful of women, 2) dedicated to his job, and 3) being a responsible father... It is not that hard to detect Sergei's influence here. DP must also have these qualities. Otherwise she would not have fallen in love with DP. Regardless of her two post-Sergei marriages, Katia's loving memory of Sergei remains unchanged. This fact does NOT and it should NOT negate her love and commitment to DP. Not a zero sum game.

  • @isabelitaranada7951
    @isabelitaranada7951 2 месяца назад

    Sublime