‘Icepick Surgeon’ Did Over 2000 Lobotomies
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2021
- Dr. Walter Freeman was a neurologist who performed over 2000 lobotomies in the course of his controversial career. Though he claimed to want to help people in mental wards, Freeman continued to do lobotomies even when they weren’t warranted. Sam Kean told Inside Edition Digital, “He was convinced lobotomies were the only humane way to treat people.” Kean tells the story of Dr. Freeman, and other ethically suspect practitioners of science and medicine, in his new book, “The Icepick Surgeon.” #InsideEdition
“Sir, the patient claims he’s depressed, so let’s go ahead and make him feel nothing at all.”
Yep, and doing so would prevent some depressed nutjob from shooting up a mall or school.
@@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 not true. Most (not all) patients became very aggresive afted the surgery while others became vegetables.
@@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 depression doesn't make you automatically go and shoot up a school
nothing at all... nothing at all... nothing at all.
@@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 cutting off people's hands would also work to prevent people from doing that. should we just go ahead and start doing that to anyone who shows the slightest signs of the big sad?
Hearing the phrase "swish it around" is sending chills down my spine.
It literally almost caused me to vomit when I heard those words 🤢🥴
Sounds sexy 🔨 meat doll...
Just joking 😅😅😅
Yup. When I got to know about lobotomy 5 years back (thru shutter island), I wasn't able to sleep well for 2 days 🥴
Literally a doctor should never swish anything around in your body
Because, same 👽
Makes me feel bad for the people that suffered from this dangerous and evil experiment.
Who cares, they were mentally ill. They needed it.
@@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 Sounds like you need one due to your ignorance.
They where just trusting the science?
@@picolascage8123 yes they were trusting “science” but not a well researched one
@@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 he was a fraud
Being lobotomized is literally my worst fear. I’d rather just die than lose myself
@Dave Gilbert ….. ? k
"in the music, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go"
Alzheimer's
Is mine
My worst nightmare is losing myself.
Feel so bad for those poor people who had to go through this nonsense
i know it must have bin so bad
In all fairness, this was before modern medicine. Although there have been many people who had great results from the procedure, many patients (in this case, victims) ended up with serious + permanent side effects. Very gruesome times
By today's standards if someone did it the way he did back then, it would lead to a hefty prison Sentence, but back then it seemed like the norm to people.
Oh how this world has changed lol.
@@thatguy720 there's nothing fair about this procedure. He was like an evil scientist
They can’t even feel it
Rosemary Kennedy was basically murdered and another person emerged. She was never herself again. Disgusting to do that to your child. 💔😢
The Kennedys were actually terrible people. All of them even jfk.
@@mrbojangles9841 Not all of them, no.
@@Seek1878 Most of them including JFK. It was a corrupt family. Joseph Kennedy (their father) was as corrupt as they come and he trained his children to be just like him. Joseph knew what he was doing to his daughter Rosemary. It was his way of disposing of her. The Kennedys were good at disposing of women who inconvenienced them.
@@mrbojangles9841 LOL you sure have a bad opinion of moonshiners. Joseph was a standard crooked politician but his kids were a lot more sane. He didn't expect Rosemary to have such a bad result, back then lobotomies were largely thought to have a "calming" effect.
@@Seek1878 And let me guess you actually believe Ted Kennedy's story about the car accident...
Too bad that a lobotomy hadn't been performed on him, since it sounds like it would've done wonders in helping him to understand what his lack of empathy towards people with actual mental health disorders feels like from their perspective.
It was a different time, you can't speak at all my friend
He dehumanize those people.
He was more insane then theme .the insane run the asylum😃
Different time or not, this procedure was questionable.
@@KyleEvra psychiatrists today also dehumanise people, just to a lesser degree. Psychiatry is still largely based on pseudoscience.
I don't think he did it for science after a certain point. Maybe it started that way, that later started becoming more pleasurable for him more than science. He enjoyed it
He did it cause it brought him fame and money and there were no consequences to it, cause to him and everyone it looked like he was a pioneering doctor. There was no one able to stop him and his ego got so high he never stopped.
@@AllenHanPR it's psychotic to want to do something like this for fame. It has to be more than that. There's no way you torture people and think hey, this is some cutting edge stuff, let's keep doing this. When clearly people were dying and becoming waking vegetables basically.
@@Jcislrd7 of course it’s all about money in the end. The more the better. People do worse things than this for money
@@Jcislrd7 if a mental sick person with huge outburst became a quiet veggie, that was seen as a success. Not torture. People saw the results and believed it helped
@@Jcislrd7 It's about control and having the power to take someone's mind.
Some modern day psychologists do the same with drugs and electro shock today.
Rose Kennedy's sorry was so sad, a vibrant girl had her soul stolen.
This reminds me of a book which is called Flowers for Algernon. The difference is that there’s a cute mouse and the icepick thing is just fugly.
@@BigMassiveWeiner By making her nonverbal and incontinent? Her mental capacity diminished to that of a two-year-old child.
@@BigMassiveWeiner you must be stupid they weren’t her problems it was her family who didn’t like it she was fine the doctor and her family Messed her up
@@BigMassiveWeiner Also known as stupid. Don't use the "I'm sadistic" to cover up your noticeable stupidity, I wonder how you cope with life if you think the doctor fixed her by leaving her in a much worse state than before.
After that, thats when the Kennedys was the number one curse of all time.
Karma.
And they thought it was okay back then. God bless the people.
want some led paint in your mercury soda?
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DIY lobotomy RUclips challenge
@@user-kr8ms9mj3t I'll put the video up when I'm done.
@@user-kr8ms9mj3t I'm i, I hate my brain
I feel like lobotomy is one of the worst medical mistakes ever conceived.
right infront of circumcision
@@wargames-ui6ic i'm sure you can find worse in medieval time lol
Wait til next year 😝
@interstellar sorry, what did you say? Couldn't understand it over the sound of your incessant bleating. 🐑
@@menulisluna8653 this is so hypocritical lmao 🐑 + 🐖
even if he wasn’t doing LOBOTOMIES, the idea of a *celebrity surgeon* that *does surgeries in front of strangers* is incredibly disturbing. what the hell was wrong with him???
He was definitely getting off on it. A sick white trash doctor.
With his big hairy arms flailing..wtf
@@chemicallylobotomized uh, as a psychotic who takes seroquel - no? there’s actual science and precision involved, which is significantly different than jamming an object into someone’s brain blindly
He had NPD. It can be cured with a lobotomy.
@@VS.VideoZLMFAOOOOOO
There's a book written by one of his patients called My Lobotomy: Howard Dully's Journey. He had this done to him when he was 12 years old. The story is equal parts disturbing and heartbreaking.
I heard he was used as a poster boy by Freeman for his "success" his stepmother is an abomination...she is a sickening person
@@nathanieljefferies5491 WHAT ABOUT HIS MANGINA "FATHER" WHO ACQUIESCED TO IT, HIS DEFENSE WAS "WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO, SHE TOLD ME SHE WOULD LEAVE ME" THAT'S WHAT SOCIETY TELLS THE MEN TO DO. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO PUT HER DOWN, JUST FOR ASKING THAT
I read this a few years ago, but couldn't remember the name! Yes, absolutely horrible, and done without conscience
Thank you so much for this recommendation! I'm doing research for writing an entry on my blog about the lack of scientific rigor and harmful procedures based on biased information. I'm using this case as one of the many examples, and sharing some comments as well. Looking forward to reading that book. Again, thank you so much!
Hopefully Howard dully was able to live a ok life with proper help from his family
Seems like the surgeon needed a “lobotomy” himself, he was crazy for that. Poor people smh.
Best comment on this, I have seen so far.
💯💯💯
Oh, I would've pulled him into a dark alley, and given him one FREE of charge. Now he can enjoy himself for eternity in hell. 🎉
I bet he was no stranger to phrase: trust me, I’m a doctor.
Hmmm. Where have I heard that recently….
I thank God I wasn't born in a time where this was considered normal,especially since I was sent to an institution because I tried to end my life due to my losing battle with Schizophrenia". It's been years since I've had a bad episode,where I'm both a danger to myself and anyone around,I make sure I always have my medicine with me at all times
glad to hear you're doing so well. So many with that disease deny their medications. My family member struggled with bipolar schizophrenia, only because he never took his medication. I wish i got to know him more. I only had a few visits with him when I was younger and he was more grounded.
@Moody Blues along with you meds you would benefit greatly from regular strenuous exercise especially out of doors.
Asylums were bad because a lot of people who were just different were sent there to rot. I have HFA and probably would be sent there during this period, The fact that normal people who just needed some basic help had invasive brain surgery that killed their personality is horrifying, the fact that it could happen to you is harrowing.
i am in your walls
@@IFuzzyI I’m in your closet eating your favorite chips. Sorry not sorry.
If there is a hell, he's probably still doing labotomies there.
@@LuCia-zn8pt ok you’ll end up there because you don’t believe in god
@@LuCia-zn8pt suppressing the truth in unrighteousness.
Justice exists , hell exists
More like he's getting a labotomy every day there
the dude is probably eons deep in f'd up karma
He liked hurting people. A real psico.
It ultimately got down to that, there is no other reason why someone, supposedly smart, would consciously hurt others to the degree he did, even killing some of them.
Doing it to kid's is what made him a psycho, that and people that he knew didn't need it. I read a book, "My Lobotomy" about a 12 year old boy that had it done to him against his will. It was ordered by his step mother that hated him, it was a horrific story, I own the book, I'll never forget it.
@@R.I.P.truelove how is the word “psycho” ableist? never heard someone say that before
@@syd8740 AERIE has clearly been lobotomised
@@R.I.P.truelove No its not lmao🗿🗿
This is just sad hearing what all of the victims had to go through by this lobotomy, Rosemary Kennedy's story was very sad as well. 😔
Apparently, the dad went ahead and did it without the mother knowing and she never forgave him for it.
This one ruined the lives of 2000 people but no jail? Then you have someone caught with drugs on them and serve many years in prison?
Do you remember how long ago that was? It wasn’t seen as a crime.
@@elisejackson2854 let a man or woman of color try to do that and see if they would have allowed it. They allowed him to experiment on ppl with no consequences.
@@FaithandNova why bring race into this. People back then thought lobotomy was a good idea to “help” people with mental disorders
@@FaithandNova 🎻
@@FaithandNova No.
This was sick. No one stood up for those people. The Dr.s originally treating those patients were at fault too.
When your surgeon shows up in a sleeveless t-shirt, you’re probably gonna have a bad day. 🤷♂️
This and so many other treatments for what we now call depression, bipolar disorder, anxiety, panic disorders etc. were so inhumane that it’s just sad. It’s unbelievable how many people who experienced these common mental health issues were robbed of their own lives and of happiness they could have had all because of the lack of human consideration, research and studies. Wow!!! Just WOW!!!
This girl I know has bi polar disorder, to think this couldve happened to her back then is scary
@@ricardo_valadez Awe man!!! I know right. I think we all know someone who has had or has some form of mental illness. Including ourselves. It could’ve been any of us.
“Fairly disastrous” is a gross understatement of the outcome from this horrendous procedure on Rosemary Kennedy. What happened to these people is horrific, awful and anything but humane.
@@chemicallylobotomized based on your screen name it sounds like you perhaps had a bad experience(s) with medication, which really sucks. Whether that’s true or not, even some of the worst side or after effects of medication vs. the aftereffects of a lobotomy aren’t even close to the same thing.
He was a CRAZY ASS man and needed to get one hisself
Probably related to Gates.
I bet if he was offered one he would soon refuse. Evil bstrd.
The medical term "swish it around " makes my skin crawl
This is awful! Those people needed help, yes, but not THAT kind of help.
This is not help.
It was not help it was torture
That was no "help"
"Start swishing around" if a doctor ever does that to find what they're looking for I no longer count them a doctor
Absolutely horrifying how many people he did this to and that his youngest victim was 12 YEARS OLD
actually 4
You could literally have a relative straight jacketed and lobotomized with a phone call
You know the old saying, “ I’d rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.”
Word!
One of my favourite sayings ..😂😂
A true crime! Wish someone would have done the same to the doctor who performed all these. It is absolutely horrible.
What a monster. He started out wanting to help people, but he turned into a demon, frankly.
I can't help to imagine how many of the 2000 people were vocal about it, but all the loved ones and authority just went through with it and you see your life get deleted when that icepick goes into your eye.
It's like they didn't know any better. Who knows in the future they maybe able to perform non invasive surgery for everything and looking back would feel the surgeries of today were freakish. All in retrospect.
@@SpaceEag11 Always someone naive like you
@@nahpimpin398 What does that mean?
At the end I thought they were gonna say that he died trying to do it on himself
I don’t think he would have ever performed this on himself because it’s very likely, deep down inside, he must have known it wasn’t helpful nor right. His god complex got the best of him and along the way ruined a lot of people’s lives.
A total wacko this “doctor” was.
I had no idea of the kind of leverage exerted on my mother when she was hospitalized in 1957 for mental issues. The restraints and ice baths were bad enough! She was not the same when she came home. But, no lobotomy, thank God!
I'm so lucky this isn't around nowadays. In the darkest moments of my depression I probably would have agreed to this procedure. Mental illness can be incredibly painful and you will do anything to ease the pain. Hence why so many people take their own lives.
Let’s be real. They knew early in that this was torture.
trust the science!!
@@PleaseNoMoreFarmhouseDecor More like pseudoscience!
Not necessarily, no. People saw the complications they caused, yes, but they were seen as a revolutionary and life-saving treatment for mental health issues.
@@FoultonOfficial A blind man can see this was torture.
Yet she was the only one that outlived all of them. I think this is why the Kennedy family is cursed
This surgeon seriously hurts my brain and its sooo disgusting in his methods I almost vomited my dinner I just had.
This is actually too sad as my *lovely* Uncle had this *done to him* after he had a mental breakdown. After the lobotomy - he became passive - but never lived a normal life (chosing to walk backwards when in public with various phobias of water).
After he died I cleared out his flat and there were so many letters when he refused the operation, tried to leave his parents and ended up having it forced on him.
... I miss him and this video shows what he went through. I guess his Dad (my Grandad) wanted him to take over a huge business - the pressure got to him - like it could to anyone. But what Father would do that to their own son. Too sad.
Wax rrc
Jesus. very sorry for you and your uncle
That is so scary
that’s horrific. i’m so sorry.
were there any more symptoms?
Bro is NOT the ceo of lobotomy corporation
he's the CEO of lobotomy dash
bro faced the fear but he made the future worse smh smh
Omg the description of the procedure is horrifying. “He started swishing around with a jimmy stick” 😰
I don't think I can stomach watching this whole video. I feel so bad for everyone who had to suffer through this...
“The tool he used to do this (Lobotomies) was literally an icepick that he opened his kitchen drawer one day, saw the icepick and thought, I can do neurosurgery with this, this is the key to my problem”
Now they use PCR swabs.
@@JeffreyAllanBackowski how do you perform a lobotomy with a swab? you need something sharp
@@I-KOMET have you seen this "swab"? It is a stiff, thin piece of plastic, the tip is a sharp point of plastic holding some strange stiff bristles. Not cotton.
But when I put an ice pick in someone’s brain, I’m a “murderer” 🙄🙄
👁️👄👁️
"My Lobotomy" By Howard Dully was a memoir of a man who was given a Lobotomy from Freeman. I recommend it to all.
Thank you for the recommendation. Do you know if it's available as an audio book too?
A monster in doctors clothes.
Just like now. The covid cult
This only happened 50 years ago? As if doctors didn't give me anxiety before....
Rosemary was beautiful. All of this is so sad.
Let me cheer you up
@@chickentonight7773 😁
He travelled 0 inches 😭☝️🏃🏿♂️🏃🏿♂️
Fun Fact:
He has control over the recent tab
It’s funny when I tell my patients my name and that I’m their PHLEBOTOMIST they think I’m going to be doing brain surgery on them lmao
Makes me wonder, how many medical procedures have I endured that will be viewed sadistic in decades. I’m sure Gamma Knife surgery will be considered unthinkable one day, it’s horrible.
What’s that
depends on if it heavily impairs your mental capacities or other aspects.
@DJ Jones They use lasers to treat nerves in the brain, the machine looks like what they use to perform MRI’s. . Before the procedure you must wear this metal crown around your head. They use screws to attach the metal crown. 4 screws altogether. 2 in the forehead and 2 in the back. The pain from the screws is so bad, you remember every second of the experience. They use the metal crown to hold your head in place while inside the machine.
sex reassignment surgery is definitely going to be one of those
@@plyix😂😂😂😂 that's up to the person, it isn't even forced on people. But go off.
Damn I’m glad I was born after science and medicine got much better.
Medical research was extremely unhinged back then. I'm glad we have the technology we need for researching the human body with proficiency rather than using ice picks and scrambling brains and making assumptions. This man was evil in a way, no pursuit of medical research but he stated that he made a breakthrough. Dross!
We just use pills now.
The problem is nowadays doctors overprescribe various drugs which can cause problems such as addiction. You have to be careful with whom you trust your medical well being with to get someone who does what is necessary without going too far either for personal or monetary reasons.
The thing we need to understand is we didn't have that kind of technology back when lobotomies were being performed.
This is insane I'm glad the world advanced a bit
we're not that far advanced from all that
Anything that takes someone’s humanity away is the most terrifying thing to me
lobotomy dash
true
StanleyMov reference!!?
His delusion of 'helping' people through lobotomies is just as crazy as his patients. So in a way, ironically, he should've done this procedure to himself, as he is a crazy person but with a license.
Definitely true it’s a lot of people who just take pleasure in experimenting on people who don’t know how to really help them
Just a crazy as his patients is not appropriate plus our never know why someone is behaving in a way deemed crazy they could have been abused seen a murder. People with mental illness should be seen as people first and patient secondly. When you see them as a patient only this is what occurs. Eliminating them and harming them like pest.
@@R.I.P.truelove …
@@R.I.P.truelove 😐
If you do it, you get 10-20, if a person with M.D. in front of their name does it, its a procedure.
It's a shame here in Portugal that our only Nobel prize in medicine is for the Lobotomy. Interestingly, Moniz was a great doctor that has already made amazing breakthroughs in cancer research for example and almost won a Nobel prize for that.
My great-great-grandfather was his personal barber and friend.
That’s really cool you have a connection in your family to him.
He definitely deserves better credit, he also invented the first functional angiography and cerebral angiography.
Wow
I wonder what the future holds for us and how we will look back at medical practices in today’s world 🌎
Well future is there its called covid mandatory vaccine....
Hopefully, orthodontics as it is today will be looked down upon in the future.
Yup...100 years from now some of the fantastic things being done in medicine will seem insane and bordering on criminal.
@@jyee2217 like gender reassignment surgery
@@davidhepherd2712 youre wrong and your transphobia is hateful and unappreciated. Get off the internet 😁
Me after the lobotomy 😂😂😂😂🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
where did you put that goddamn fire?
@@gregsmith8977 In the hole
@@nightglide_ fair enough
Go ahead, say where the fire is
@@acreativename5352 ...it's in the hole, sir.
Imagine just having a down day and going there and losing control of everything because of a bad day.
I'm surprised he didn't do one on himself.
My stepfather was born in 1922 NYC. Two of his siblings were institutionalized in the 30's. His sister ended up having her legs amputated. Both lived their entire lives there. I wonder what happened to them in there. Extremely sad.
Damn u must me like 70-80
@@gheeezee_00she said stepfather not her actual father.
@@saturnlights5239 ah yh
And he was awarded nobel prize...what a shame
Now go find the story of the homeless guy in Hawaii that was arrested and locked in a mental ward because the police thought he was someone else with an open warrant for 2 YEARS. Every time he tried to correct this, he was deemed “crazy” and given high doses of powerful drugs. Nobody bothered, or cared to simply double check his fingerprints or look at a photo of the real guy that was wanted (the real guy was in prison in Alaska).
Name of the person?
wtf that’s crazy what’s the guys name
Oh .... 😮 They had him ZOOTED. Well, I take 4 different medications. Not because I'm "crazy" but I have trauma that hasn't gone away after the experience (which was sexual in nature)
I have Epilepsy and I’m so glad they no longer practice this for my condition 😳
Oh, they do, lol, they call them PCR tests.
It is still happening today
@@JeffreyAllanBackowski Define PCR for me. No googling it, no no. Tell me what PCR is.
@@FoultonOfficial no
Never understood why the Kennedy’s would allow there Daughter to go through this...
money in politics.
To the wealthy reputation and image is everything.
The family curse
I get feeling he just enjoyed hurting people the power to take someones life/personality 🤢
“Fire In the hole!”
🔥🕳🟢🙂
WATER ON THE HILL🗣💧💧💧
What kind of sick twisted procedure is this 😱?!?!
Horrific; never knew lobotomies were quite the cruel acts until I played American Mcgee's Alice for the first time couple years ago😬
Yea me neither. Geesh!
Watch America horror stories think it was 2 season.
I love that game! Did you place Alice madness returns too?
Watch the show/series on Netflix I believe called "Ratched" .....it is based on him, this procedure, the nurses, the media, etc.
I don’t think I’m going to be able to sleep well after seeing this.
Years ago I visited a client's sister who had had a lobotomy and was institutionalized. She wore a dress with one pocket in the middle. In that pocket were all of her worldly possessions. She made sounds but was unable to converse with anyone. Essentially, she was a vegetable. To add insult to tragedy, the doctor who was the developer of the lobotomy received the Nobel Prize in medicine.
trust the science!!!
There’s no science in lobotomies, only sadism and victimization.
Barbaric treatment.
Mental illness was misunderstood and was regarded as a personal failure or weakness.
People today still experience the stigma associated with it.
This.
he will be gladly accepted in the geometry dash community
And nobody around him used there brain to stop him
I’m gonna need a lobotomy to forget about lobotomies.
lol
I could never go back in the day
Just thinking about this hurts my soul and gives me chills
I was forcefully medicated for many years by my “family “. I got sick of it, went with a lawyer and turns out they didn’t even had the legal right to force me to medicate. They also took me twice to a mental hospital against my will. What they did was illegal. No my lawyer tells me they can get charged with kidnapping. I don’t think I will do that but just having the power to do it makes me satisfied after all the oppression I went through for many years. I am finally free, tasting liberty and justice.
If you were under 18 years of age, yes they can.
This takes the, "God complex," to a whole new level wow!
We need to maintain our right to refuse medical experiments, hence Nuremberg code was established.
And let those psychotic people on the streets? No, they need lobotomies.
@@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 lol
@@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 Judging by your comment, you know nothing about lobotomy. The procedure did not yield a positive result nor cure the said mental disorder. It just damage the frontal lobe and once healed, a cavity in the brain was formed.
@@rayqonza8084 ya. Not talking about an icepick to the dome. I neglected to mention about using a professional method nowadays of course.
@@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132 Really? In what circumstances could a lobotomy instead of therapist be justified?
Unfortunately the patents in mental places have always been tested on. If they tell some one what's happening. Most people won't believe them! They also did shock therapy! Think about all the things we havnt found out!
It is still going on today!!! They need to be stopped!!
Shock therapy is still performed on *children* today.
This man was so sick to do this to so many people with no regard.
It's insane how so called doctors treated people back then.
even now
It's insane how so called doctors treat people now.
Who invited lawg to the function 😂💀
Watching this gave me anxiety... Its very troubling... Poor victims
Inside edition is so entertaining
NO WAY HE PLAYED GEOMETRY DASH FOR 2000 HOURS
i suffer from OCD, words cannot describe how glad i am for not being born in those times
Its unbelievable to know that families willingly handed over their family members to get an ice pic through their eyes .
Yikes, thats creepy.
I feel so freaking bad for the people who had to go through this
I had a nightmare once about getting a lobotomy. It felt like there was fire burning a hole trough my skull. All I could see was green faces looking at me, my vision getting blurry. Then I woke up.
Freedman was the "shade tree mechanic" of psychosurgery.
So bascially Walter turned his patients into a catatonic schizophrenic without the hallucinations
"Just trust the science"