Seems quieter than earlier in the month. The world is changing and Pattaya with it. Glad I enjoyed, and still have memories of a holiday there in 2005. Getting 70 - 80 baht to the pound, bar fines 200 baht, 1000 baht long time and the girls were attentive and fun to be with. I'm an old fart now, but memories are forever. Hopefully, somewhere else in the world will become the new Pattaya for the upcoming guys.
They were the good old days you can still find those prices I was there in October in Jomtien plus the older girls take care of you better if you know what I mean🙏🏼
@@everythingPattaya what about warehouse club ? I used to like Queens but too much ink I can’t see the goodies. I don’t mind 10-15k for Instagram models but I tell them up front as good as they look they better perform as well also or no honey 😎
Nice one Daz and HNY. You seem to be the only you-tuber who has got a handle on what is going on. Most of the other you-tubers are just pushing their own business or the businesses of their friends.
Daz; In a previous video, you also asked where the 9's and 10's might be. Your answer then: Bangkok. And, that's true. The girls know their value. The really pretty girls want to be actresses and professional models. Those industries are concentrated in Bangkok. So, that's where they are. And, just as the girls do in western cities, the underemployed models and actresses work part time as escorts. In most cases, they work through agencies, whether in Thailand or the west. I assume that the girls in "Pin-up" are working through an agency. Similarly, the upscale girls working in the vicinity around the yacht club and the golf courses are probably working through an agency. In all cases, they cost more which brings me to an important point: The 9's and 10's are looking for relative male 9's and 10's, both in terms of physical appearance and in terms of wealth. So, if you are old, out of shape, are not sharply dressed and you don't have the money to spend, you will most certainly not be in the game.
I just returned from two weeks in Thailand with my wife--then met my friend and took a week with him to have fun with him as wife had returned to the Philippines. My general assessment is that there was no shortage of attractive women being available there--key word being 'attractive'. One man's 10 is another man's 7, relatively speaking. Being a 10 doesn't mean fun during your liaison, while I'm presuming that a 6 or a 7 could really tip the scales on the fun factor. Not that I have any idea...but a starfish 10 or an enthusiastic 7...which would you prefer? All that being said, we both hit the Gogo bars and the beer bars and drank and carried on mightily, having good fun in general; Nana Plaza, Thermae, Soi Cowboy...
Some people in the comments are talking about the Good Old Days. I was here in 1976, shortly after the US Military pulled out of Vietnam. The GI's on Leave were gone, but many of the girls stayed. The bars were crawling with lonely 9's and 10's who didn't want to go back home to their village. They were just looking for a bed to sleep in so they didn't have to spend the night in the bars. There were a few of us back packers in our early 20's having the time of our lives. The Atlanta Hotel was Ground Zero for the best girls.
I think that situation won’t last long. Prices and wages going up after Covid, but from your story I drew a picture, that customers don’t really get what they’re hoping for. So everything looks good now, as there is a lot of customers, but they won’t return. It’s just like in a restaurant, when you hike the price up, happy of making more money, but the food isn’t as good as it was before, customers don’t return, and the profit starts to going down, and when customers start to leaving, it’s very difficult to get them back.
Customers *shall* come. Just not (as many) westerners any more. The west is in a well deserved decline, the new customers will be from wealthier asian countries instead.
@@gregbarga2952 Thirdly, I miss your point because it's nonsense. Your comparison of the red light industry with a restaurant business doesn't work. Prices in the red light industry in Thailand have never decreased in the past. And they won't decrease this time either. People will stay away? Yes, some will but eliminating the Cheap Charlies has always been the goal of Thailand anyway. Maybe you should buy a trip to go to Thailand and see by yourself instead of hanging in front of that screen ..
In 2019 I did the same thing you did. I walked into Pin Ups and estimated that they had 3 rotations of 40 girls on stage for a total of 120. I was there looking for a friend of a friend and I found her. Bought her a few drinks and she told me at that time they had 180 girls. Your description sounds like they pack them in a little tighter than what I saw. That girl I met is now my caddy at one of the golf courses. During all the shutdowns since 2019 she returned to her old caddy job. She says she wants to go back to walking street, but as they often do, she had a baby in the interim which complicates her life. It's not mine. But now for a fraction of the cost of a few lady drinks I hang with her for 4 or 5 hours on the golf course. Very playful.
Patts was pretty poor when I was there in 2019. Covid has finished it off, but I will not forget just how many empty units on Soi 6 etc I saw in September'19 - Before Covid was even heard of.
Happy New Years from Mexico! I was in Pattaya for most of October, 2022, and traffic on Soi Buakao was crazy. Personally, I'm happy 2022 is over and hope 2023 is better!
Hi Bill, How is Mexico? I am currently in the Phillipines and was in Thailand for 4 months last year. I am from So Cal and have been considering Mexico as I am not feeling SE Asia. What do you see?
Happy New Year Daz!! Great info as usual! On my last trip in July/August 2022, I noticed the same with regards to the quality of the ladies. However, in my experience, the 9s/10s are more expense than they're worth now. I BF'd an absolute stunner from Kink one night after buying her and one of her girlfriends a fair number of LDs. She wanted to go to another gogo to keep drinking with another friend, then a snack after the gogos closed and then became a starfish back on the hotel. I realize the experiences with these girls is random but this wasn't the first time this had happened with 'model' types and in my experience, happens more often with 9s/10s. If I'm going to spend time with a 9/10 (especially at a gogo), I go in with the attitude that I'm just there to have some fun in the bar and have no intention of BFing a gogo girl. I'm at the point where I would rather have an enthusiastic 7 from a beer bar/gents club than a starfish 10!
I use a two-stage scoring system. The first one is how the girl looks in person - not in photos. The second one which is more important is how she performs. So a starfish is zero in that category. 5555
im heading towards 60y/o now so there all good to me i was there in 2019 and mostly took home about 6 or 7s they seamed much more happy to please me then 9 or 10 the aussie dollar isnt much better than 2019 i was getting 22.50 over there then. il be back in febuary for a month .cant wait.
Great analysis. Looks is very subjective. As I've got older I can still see the youthful beauty in the younger woman, but I don't find them as appealing as a well kept woman in her mid 30's. I also don't get turned on hardly at all by working girls anymore, where as a woman with a normal job is much more of a turn on for me when they are talking or being a bit flirtatious with me. The thought of having to pay 3000 baht or more for a short time with one of those girls is a turn off in itself, even though I can afford it.
Incredible dedication to your art! We are grateful for your service! May you be rewarded in the next life with as many goats and camels your heart desires! 😀
You cracked the code. As a recent first timer, I knew something was up and you've confirmed my suspicions. I had the same experience, Pin-Up was jam packed shoulder to shoulder with 8's or better, but nowhere else. The only places that came remotely close at a fraction were Palace, Skyfall, Playgirlz, Queen's Club, and maybe Baccara. Pin-Up is also the most aggressive about the drinks. And I noticed the preference for NE asian guys more so on Walking Street. LK was more friendly toward westerners. Even in Bangkok, they were all jammed into Billboard and Butterflies and nowhere else. For quality of life, I'd like to return, but I didn't like the scene much... and that's despite having had an incredible time. Pattaya is a solid hub for exploring the rest of the region moving forward.
I have to say that after a week of carousing in Bangkok, it gets pretty old (for me, at least) pretty fast. I enjoyed myself, but it was nice to return to the Philippines and have my regular weekly massage...and not have the masseuses constantly asking me if I wanted her to go to my hotel for extra services!
Been going sense 1998 and now I retired December 02, 2022. I am selling the lot and will soon be condo heading over. Great work with this one and thank you for the hard work.
Daz, I can 100% verify your shout on Pin-up. It is hands down the best in Pattaya for stunning women. I couldn't believe the quality. Expensive, but well worth it.
Happy New Year, Daz. Very informative. Was in Pin Up bar with some visitors. We were made to feel as welcome as the proverbial fart in a space suit. Complete focus was on Koreans…young and old…Soi 6 much more fun…
I was at pin up and baccara tonight, and very accurate info. Appreciate the good work. Also the 9s and 10s are in the local big clubs, not so foreigner friendly, differ. Yes!, new season 88. Wild stuff...
I've been in Vietnam for 1 month and after hearing so many foreigners complaining about the high prices in Thailand and the girls lack of interest in them I'm glad I stayed 1 month in Vietnam 😂 Good video as usual reporting on the ground zero 🙏
Bobby Bare recorded a song called I've Never Gone To Bed With An Ugly Woman for his album entitled Drunk & Crazy in 1980. I have it in my collection. (I've never gone to bed with an ugly woman but I've sure woke up with a few)
In Phuket they have all been scooped up by Suzie Wong group and the various gogos they run. Ive inquired twice so far, one girl said bar fine is 2000 + 6000 short time, the other girl said 2000 + 8000 short time but she needs 20+ drinks first. For reference I am young, in shape and well groomed. FWIW I also think only fans and instagram have taken a lot of our 10s out the pool.
I think it is one drink per hour, which really it is not bad, but annoying. Both A Japanese guy and I got told at the same time. Same as XS the sister gogo
Great video gain Daz.You have just upset me.I went to Thailand for 20 + years and had phenomenal times.All so different now.With my age aches and pains beer belly and low bank balance may have to settle for a 2 or push it to 3 if I ever manage to return.All great fun pal.Keep up the good work.
For decades now, beautiful young people have had their value sucked out by middlemen and now technology has finally caught up to them being able to earn something closer to their true value.
Happy New Year Daz, I enjoyed that stroll up Soi 7 and down Soi 8. As I understand it, from what you're saying, for the foreseeable future us poor Western guys are going to be out in the cold when it comes to affording any of these lovely ladies. It will be look but don't touch, apart from those few who have very deep pockets.
And I thought I became more and more picky during the time I lived in Pattaya (2008-2016). Year after year there where less 9's and 10's. Good to know that I wasn't the only one who had this feeling.
hahaha I remember when I it was like shooting fish in a barrel, getting 8-10s on Soi 6 for 300 bar fine and room. Plus 700 for the lady. A short time was until you got bored. Often 2 or 3 hours if it was quieter in low season. That was back in 2000-2003. Now its 1400 bf with no ST room and 5 lady drinks at what ? 160 or 180 baht each ? Thats nearly $100 AUD before you have to pay the bird and get a room. What a joke. I would hate to be a punter in this day and age.
Happy new year and thanks for the video! If you are a bit older and in search for women in their thirties you won't have a problem to find a nice one for a reasonable price and a lot of hot fun. I always have avoided WS like the plague.
I was in pin up 2 weeks ago and the French manager told me the barfines at pin up are 2000baht before 12. And 1500 After 12. Definitely the most girls working at any gogo in Pattaya. Pin up has the best party vibe of any gogo. 20 10’s 20 9’s and rest average. You should go to Champagne go go in LK Metro was in 3 days ago, 10 10’s 10 9’s and rest average. 1500 baht barfines before 12 and 1000 after 12. You should also hit up Moon gogo next to Pin Up, 10 9’s and the rest were 8’s. 1500 baht before 12 and 1000 baht after 12. Very friendly at Moon. I’m “friends” with several girls from Soi 6 and LK metro they are all making a killing on short times. They said business couldn’t be better. People are spending money.
Jeff my experience was completely different. I went to Champaign about a month ago there were zero stunners. Went to Moon gogo last night and absolutely zero stunners, most of them were so overweight the spinner who escorted me was mocking them under her breath.
I've watched one of the Pin Up photos in interent and t've found MIckey, my favorite girl in the best youtube streaming dance show in Pattaya during the lockdown (Oh Bar show). She's, at least a 9 in anyone's view, a 10 for my taste. So, you are true. Absolutely crazy price.
Just got back from Pattaya and I have to agree. I did see a few eights and nines in bars, but not many. Most of the real hotties were dancing (bored) in the go-go bars where they don´t have to go with customers because they make enough from wages/drinks and tips. I sat with a couple in LK Metro and bought them drinks for a couple of hours until it became clear I was just being played. I just wanted to bar fine the girl asap and go somewhere quieter where we could talk, but every time I brought it up she would avoid he question. Bar fines were 1200 Baht, with no short-time. In one go-go bar I had two beers and a vodka, she had four drinks, and my bill was about 40 quid! Nice for looking - and dreaming - but that´s all. I did visit a couple of clubs on Walking Street about 3am, where a lot of the go-gos go after the clubs close, and there were a lot of nines - but again, they had their eyes peeled for a certain kind of guy, a lot younger, richer and better looking than me unfortunately.
There's none left. The birth rate is nearly 2.0 already. Isan isn't even particularly poor anymore. I live here, loved it in 2019, but frankly the show is over unless you're rich. I bet Amsterdam is better value these days. Surely South America must be.
I'm visiting soon and I'll be doing exactly the same stuff I was doing 20 years ago when I first went and hopefully in another 20 years time if I'm lucky.
Really Love your Content Video Uncle UK , The sound the Tone the Rhythm reminded me of The Story Teller of "Winnie the Pooh" but PATTAYA version !!. Thank You !! it's Great Video!
Brilliant video. Very informative. Your videos are by far the best from Pattaya. Also, I like the way you're not on camera. No offence, but I'm not watching pattaya to see some middle-aged guys face. Some of the other content creators have their ugly faces constantly on camera!
I was having a long distance relationship with a bar girl that works at kink, and I have come the conclusion that she was definitely taking me for a ride, not to much cash sent to her but enough now, when she tells me she can't pay her credit card bill of 50000baht, that through me, and then tells me she will have to start being bar fined to pay it if don't help her. That one hurt, and that's when it hit home. Thanks to everyone to help us understand and see the light of what does go on in Pattaya with not all the girls, but many of them. Thanks
HI Daz, Great Video as usual. And I do agree with you Pin-up (and the new sister club XS- Go-go) employees about 300 girls between the two and most of them are at lest 8-10 (also Farenheight and Baccara are still good too). But I'm still wondering where the rest of the 9's and 10's are, I mean 600 girls between these 3 clubs is not all the girls that were here before covid. We are talking literally about thousands of hot girls that are still missing. I mean the top go-gos have always employed the best looking girls, before Pinup it was Sensations, Skyfall, and before that it was Saphire, Baccara, Lighthouse, Heaven Above (on Soi Diamond), WhatsUp?, Airport, Happy, Coyotys, (who remembers this one?), Super Girl, original Champagne, etc. but after all the go-go's there were still tons of hot girls found in the Beer Bars, Beach Road, I-bar/Insomnia, Lucifer or even that pool place on Soi Marine even at 6;00AM! But no more, where did the rest of the stunners go? My theory: Thanks to Social Media, many of these girls are hiding behind dating apps and working as freelancers, working on Fans-Only type of sites, or working part-time taking advantage of the 10 day contracts, or hopefully not yet back post codvid. What is true is: Now, mostly 1-6's populate most bars on Treetown, LK-Metro, Insomnia/Lucifer/Candy Shop, and Soi-Buakao in general. What I think has stayed the same is Soi 6 I believe. Not sure if it is going to get better or worst in terms of quality. What do you think?
For the past 10 months I have been wondering where are the 9s and 10s in Patong, Phuket. I think you have found the answer. a 30 year old bar girl friend of mine just returned from Isaan after the covid shutdown. she said the Isaan girls brought back their Thai boyfriends with them (returning to Patong). this supports your findings in Pattaya. thanks for the video. now we have the answer
I think 2023 is going to bring far fewer tourists. The world was closed for a while and people were eager to get back to pattaya and many had discovered it for the first time. I think the number of tourist will go down and that will lead to bars not being able to pay the girls what they have been. I may be wrong but it will be interesting to see.
YES, I have come to the same conclusion. When the bars start to go bust after Song Kran, the surviving bars will Have to reduce those Crazy girl's wages or suffer the same fate , then prices should fall
@@minimalistation I agree with you. I have been in Bangkok for 5 days now, and so far, all the good looking ones were duds. I have spent a lot of money but felt it's not worth the value. The 7's were very enthusiastic, but I didn't want to waste a bullet on them, and the 8's and above were boring in the sack. I still have 2 weeks left and will go to Pattaya tomorrow. But as of now, I feel like I had enough and may cut my trip short or go deep sea fishing to kill time. I definitely will skip Thailand next year. This is my 6th trip to Thailand, and very experienced with the night scenes. I have a budget of about $1000US a day yet it got boring for me on my 5th day. So money does NOT necessary buys you good entertainment....at least not like the past Thailand that I remembered. Vietnam will be my next year's destination!
For Westerners, you may be right. However, China has just ended a 3-year lockdown and India's economy is improving. That means almost 3 billion people! ! The most important part is they are more close to Thailand! It's mean short flight time and cheap air ticket...
@everythingpattaya great videos, keep up the good work. I've gifted towards your camera. First time in Pattaya for Dec 2022 vacation, average is 500 bar fine, and 1200-1500 short time (compared to @thinkof100 mention). (you can actually negotiate this further, if you locate the freelancers, and can get between 1000-1200 if not at the bar scene) Visited Pin Up, great spot. Two notes: 1) need to go to the washroom, which is large - it is loaded with girls, quite a surprise, and 2) the boss is super cool, great personality, and was even dancing up on me. All in all, a great experience that I would recommend to all. Already back home, and planning to visit again for 2023, if not long term to move there.
That's CRAZY ! That's a month rent just to bar fine and not to mention you didn't say ST or LT , ... I miss the old day's but after the rush of the re- establishing hopefully it will change but if not I'm ok with having and 8 ... Besides I don't like crowded places or stages , I like the High Rollers Club !
Well, unfortunately they are all gone. They left 25 -30 years ago.. I met my wife at the Sugar shack soi 1 Pattayaland in 1997.. she's not a 9 anymore now but still good enough. Happens when they turn 50 or more
It seems that if you visited Pattaya before covid, you had the best years and if you are starting to visit now, sorry you missed the boat, especially if you are a middle aged westerner and its getting the same way in the Philippines, if you take the high cost of flights into account and you are looking for female company probably best to stay closer to home were the prices aren't that dissimilar.. As for local boys catching on to how much money the girls earn is called pimping. But looking on the bright side, it is cheaper to live there and there are still amazing things to do other than going into bars...
Daz, you have the best content of any RUclips channel from Patts. You're not afraid to show the bars and streets at night but agree you need a new camera, at 1080p60hd the quality is really poor. You could double your subscribers with a bit of investment ...
I can confirm everything 100%. My good "old" friend (25) from Fahrenheit (Superstar 10) decides what is possible, not the customers. She earns at least 100,000 baht/month. On my last vacation, I was exceptionally lucky to be able to spend 3 days of free time with her twice - at a discount price. I don't know how I deserved this, but it was unique and unforgettable.
Just found an old advertisement for the Dimond agogo.... 60,000 baht a month. That was 2018. I was in the Windmill on payday and a girl there made 50,000 base salary a month. The girls bar fined 2 or 3 times a month... But only if they like you or you are a high roller. Over time the girls will get to know you and if you are polite and fun... They loosen up and prices come down. (But it takes 6 months.)
Damn!!!!!!!!!! I've been in there several times the last 6 weeks trying to barfie this little freaky spinner. She gives me the cold shoulder. I'm early 40s and average fit. But for some reason she always has her pussy right on an old fat gross guy's face every time I go in there. But I did see her hanging out in Baccara with a Korean and another girl he probably barfined at the same time, because they rotated on his lap. So sounds like she only like fat gross dudes or Koreans. I can't explain it.
After 10 beers and a few jack and cokes they all look like 10s to me. Not in the morning though lol. I have a medical condition called beergooglelitis
I suffer the same affliction....
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I arrive this Friday popping my Thailand cherry. Is 1 month long enough trip? Lol 😂
Seems quieter than earlier in the month. The world is changing and Pattaya with it. Glad I enjoyed, and still have memories of a holiday there in 2005. Getting 70 - 80 baht to the pound, bar fines 200 baht, 1000 baht long time and the girls were attentive and fun to be with. I'm an old fart now, but memories are forever. Hopefully, somewhere else in the world will become the new Pattaya for the upcoming guys.
They were the good old days you can still find those prices I was there in October in Jomtien plus the older girls take care of you better if you know what I mean🙏🏼
Same here first went early 2003 , couldn't spend your money 💰😆😅
@@markhughes9092 Was there October meself Mark, getting beers 65/75/85 quite busy there too especially beach bars and Soi Chayapoon 👍
There’s more opportunities now for girls who are attractive and intelligent, good for them too imo!
@@markhughes9092 yes I can confirm that, too.
Detective work only Daz can effortlessly complete, with class and humor !! Happy New Year to all !
Same to you, Happy New Year
@@everythingPattaya Did u bump into any 3's dressed up as a 9. ? Lol
@@chairlesnicol672 I'm not due in until February. 😁
@@everythingPattaya what about warehouse club ? I used to like Queens but too much ink I can’t see the goodies. I don’t mind 10-15k for Instagram models but I tell them up front as good as they look they better perform as well also or no honey 😎
That must be one hell of a tough job, someone has to do it and I salute your dedication and hard work for your viewers.
Nice one Daz and HNY.
You seem to be the only you-tuber who has got a handle on what is going on. Most of the other you-tubers are just pushing their own business or the businesses of their friends.
Daz; In a previous video, you also asked where the 9's and 10's might be. Your answer then: Bangkok. And, that's true. The girls know their value. The really pretty girls want to be actresses and professional models. Those industries are concentrated in Bangkok. So, that's where they are. And, just as the girls do in western cities, the underemployed models and actresses work part time as escorts. In most cases, they work through agencies, whether in Thailand or the west. I assume that the girls in "Pin-up" are working through an agency. Similarly, the upscale girls working in the vicinity around the yacht club and the golf courses are probably working through an agency. In all cases, they cost more which brings me to an important point: The 9's and 10's are looking for relative male 9's and 10's, both in terms of physical appearance and in terms of wealth. So, if you are old, out of shape, are not sharply dressed and you don't have the money to spend, you will most certainly not be in the game.
I just returned from two weeks in Thailand with my wife--then met my friend and took a week with him to have fun with him as wife had returned to the Philippines. My general assessment is that there was no shortage of attractive women being available there--key word being 'attractive'. One man's 10 is another man's 7, relatively speaking. Being a 10 doesn't mean fun during your liaison, while I'm presuming that a 6 or a 7 could really tip the scales on the fun factor. Not that I have any idea...but a starfish 10 or an enthusiastic 7...which would you prefer? All that being said, we both hit the Gogo bars and the beer bars and drank and carried on mightily, having good fun in general; Nana Plaza, Thermae, Soi Cowboy...
Some people in the comments are talking about the Good Old Days. I was here in 1976, shortly after the US Military pulled out of Vietnam. The GI's on Leave were gone, but many of the girls stayed. The bars were crawling with lonely 9's and 10's who didn't want to go back home to their village. They were just looking for a bed to sleep in so they didn't have to spend the night in the bars. There were a few of us back packers in our early 20's having the time of our lives. The Atlanta Hotel was Ground Zero for the best girls.
I think that situation won’t last long. Prices and wages going up after Covid, but from your story I drew a picture, that customers don’t really get what they’re hoping for. So everything looks good now, as there is a lot of customers, but they won’t return. It’s just like in a restaurant, when you hike the price up, happy of making more money, but the food isn’t as good as it was before, customers don’t return, and the profit starts to going down, and when customers start to leaving, it’s very difficult to get them back.
I agree. Personally my experience with 9s or 10s besides their great look was never more than average
Customers *shall* come. Just not (as many) westerners any more. The west is in a well deserved decline, the new customers will be from wealthier asian countries instead.
@@vinced5741 well, firstly you missed the point. Secondly, you watch too much porn my friend.
@@vinced5741 well, firstly you missed the point. Secondly, you watch too much porn my friend.
@@gregbarga2952 Thirdly, I miss your point because it's nonsense. Your comparison of the red light industry with a restaurant business doesn't work. Prices in the red light industry in Thailand have never decreased in the past. And they won't decrease this time either. People will stay away? Yes, some will but eliminating the Cheap Charlies has always been the goal of Thailand anyway. Maybe you should buy a trip to go to Thailand and see by yourself instead of hanging in front of that screen ..
I will be there in 4 weeks to verify your findings. At 70 a 6-8 is fine with me. Personality, english abilty is important too. Cheers.
In 2019 I did the same thing you did. I walked into Pin Ups and estimated that they had 3 rotations of 40 girls on stage for a total of 120. I was there looking for a friend of a friend and I found her. Bought her a few drinks and she told me at that time they had 180 girls. Your description sounds like they pack them in a little tighter than what I saw. That girl I met is now my caddy at one of the golf courses. During all the shutdowns since 2019 she returned to her old caddy job. She says she wants to go back to walking street, but as they often do, she had a baby in the interim which complicates her life. It's not mine. But now for a fraction of the cost of a few lady drinks I hang with her for 4 or 5 hours on the golf course. Very playful.
Nice video, interesting, seems to be the start of the end of Pattaya as we used to know and love.
Patts was pretty poor when I was there in 2019. Covid has finished it off, but I will not forget just how many empty units on Soi 6 etc I saw in September'19 - Before Covid was even heard of.
Happy New Years from Mexico! I was in Pattaya for most of October, 2022, and traffic on Soi Buakao was crazy. Personally, I'm happy 2022 is over and hope 2023 is better!
Traffics always like that
Hi Bill, How is Mexico? I am currently in the Phillipines and was in Thailand for 4 months last year. I am from So Cal and have been considering Mexico as I am not feeling SE Asia. What do you see?
I was too there during the same time. But Bangkok was better
Currently in Pattaya, haven’t seen that many 7s never mind 9 and 10s not the same Pattaya now with all the beer bars demolished
Agree, was there this Xmas. Hugely disappointed,
Daz, you must have the fastest growing hair in Thailand. So many trips to the hair dresser 😂. Cheers to a great 2023 and more fantastic content!
Happy New Year Daz!! Great info as usual! On my last trip in July/August 2022, I noticed the same with regards to the quality of the ladies. However, in my experience, the 9s/10s are more expense than they're worth now. I BF'd an absolute stunner from Kink one night after buying her and one of her girlfriends a fair number of LDs. She wanted to go to another gogo to keep drinking with another friend, then a snack after the gogos closed and then became a starfish back on the hotel. I realize the experiences with these girls is random but this wasn't the first time this had happened with 'model' types and in my experience, happens more often with 9s/10s. If I'm going to spend time with a 9/10 (especially at a gogo), I go in with the attitude that I'm just there to have some fun in the bar and have no intention of BFing a gogo girl. I'm at the point where I would rather have an enthusiastic 7 from a beer bar/gents club than a starfish 10!
What's a "starfish", Steve?
Geez.. f that!!!!
@@patrickclark9156 Those girls who just lie there like a starfish during sax.
you are absolutely correct with your last sentence. A 9 or a 10 is no guarantee...one presumes...that a pleasant time will be had.
I use a two-stage scoring system. The first one is how the girl looks in person - not in photos. The second one which is more important is how she performs. So a starfish is zero in that category. 5555
im heading towards 60y/o now so there all good to me i was there in 2019 and mostly took home about 6 or 7s they seamed much more happy to please me then 9 or 10 the aussie dollar isnt much better than 2019 i was getting 22.50 over there then. il be back in febuary for a month .cant wait.
Great analysis. Looks is very subjective. As I've got older I can still see the youthful beauty in the younger woman, but I don't find them as appealing as a well kept woman in her mid 30's. I also don't get turned on hardly at all by working girls anymore, where as a woman with a normal job is much more of a turn on for me when they are talking or being a bit flirtatious with me. The thought of having to pay 3000 baht or more for a short time with one of those girls is a turn off in itself, even though I can afford it.
Never pay anymore than a thousand for st.
Incredible dedication to your art! We are grateful for your service! May you be rewarded in the next life with as many goats and camels your heart desires! 😀
Very informative and coming from a man that knows how Pattaya works ! Thank you my friend ! I'm on my way 2/26/23 DFW-NRT-BKK and I feel lost !!!
Truly a great public service channel
You cracked the code. As a recent first timer, I knew something was up and you've confirmed my suspicions. I had the same experience, Pin-Up was jam packed shoulder to shoulder with 8's or better, but nowhere else. The only places that came remotely close at a fraction were Palace, Skyfall, Playgirlz, Queen's Club, and maybe Baccara. Pin-Up is also the most aggressive about the drinks. And I noticed the preference for NE asian guys more so on Walking Street. LK was more friendly toward westerners. Even in Bangkok, they were all jammed into Billboard and Butterflies and nowhere else.
For quality of life, I'd like to return, but I didn't like the scene much... and that's despite having had an incredible time. Pattaya is a solid hub for exploring the rest of the region moving forward.
Their friendly with anyone as long as the money's there
I have to say that after a week of carousing in Bangkok, it gets pretty old (for me, at least) pretty fast. I enjoyed myself, but it was nice to return to the Philippines and have my regular weekly massage...and not have the masseuses constantly asking me if I wanted her to go to my hotel for extra services!
Chinese and Japanese customers throw cash at them to make themselves look rich. If you were a working girl wouldn't you go for that customer?
if you spend more money, they will be more friendly to you too. who it that idiot who said " money isn't everything " ?
Been going sense 1998 and now I retired December 02, 2022. I am selling the lot and will soon be condo heading over. Great work with this one and thank you for the hard work.
Daz, I can 100% verify your shout on Pin-up. It is hands down the best in Pattaya for stunning women. I couldn't believe the quality. Expensive, but well worth it.
Happy New Year, Daz. Very informative. Was in Pin Up bar with some visitors. We were made to feel as welcome as the proverbial fart in a space suit. Complete focus was on Koreans…young and old…Soi 6 much more fun…
I was at pin up and baccara tonight, and very accurate info. Appreciate the good work. Also the 9s and 10s are in the local big clubs, not so foreigner friendly, differ. Yes!, new season 88. Wild stuff...
I've been in Vietnam for 1 month and after hearing so many foreigners complaining about the high prices in Thailand and the girls lack of interest in them I'm glad I stayed 1 month in Vietnam 😂
Good video as usual reporting on the ground zero 🙏
'I've never been to bed with an ugly woman, but I've woke up with quite a few'....Lemmy.
Great line !
haha same same
Bobby Bare recorded a song called I've Never Gone To Bed With An Ugly Woman for his album entitled Drunk & Crazy in 1980. I have it in my collection. (I've never gone to bed with an ugly woman but I've sure woke up with a few)
In Phuket they have all been scooped up by Suzie Wong group and the various gogos they run. Ive inquired twice so far, one girl said bar fine is 2000 + 6000 short time, the other girl said 2000 + 8000 short time but she needs 20+ drinks first. For reference I am young, in shape and well groomed. FWIW I also think only fans and instagram have taken a lot of our 10s out the pool.
U R the best on u tube by far - keep it up please Daz
Top Man Daz! Entertaining and a wealth of information. I'm literally packing and, on my way to the airport. Hope to see you around town
Excellent vlog Daz... keep them coming thanks
Hi Daz, Thank you for all your excellent informative vlogs. Have a great new year, i hope its a prosperous, peaceful one for you.
Many thanks
thanks for some great info. haven't been back since 2008, maybe will return next year, hope things get better by then.
Great info bud! That pretty much killed my desire to go there 😂.
If you don’t drink quickly enough in Pin Up they ask you to pay the bill and leave . I’ve seen this happen on several occasions.
I think it is one drink per hour, which really it is not bad, but annoying. Both A Japanese guy and I got told at the same time. Same as XS the sister gogo
If you buy a drink for a girl, that resets the clock too 😂
What about bottle service
Love your videos all the way from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦
Glad you like them!
Great video gain Daz.You have just upset me.I went to Thailand for 20 + years and had phenomenal times.All so different now.With my age aches and pains beer belly and low bank balance may have to settle for a 2 or push it to 3 if I ever manage to return.All great fun pal.Keep up the good work.
I was also down on walking street for most of December....the rest of the 9s and 10s are at X's agogo. Which is Pin-up's sister club.(same ownership)
For decades now, beautiful young people have had their value sucked out by middlemen and now technology has finally caught up to them being able to earn something closer to their true value.
So true.
You nailed it. Was there a few months ago and they got ALL the talent! Very fine establishment.
Happy New Year Daz, I enjoyed that stroll up Soi 7 and down Soi 8. As I understand it, from what you're saying, for the foreseeable future us poor Western guys are going to be out in the cold when it comes to affording any of these lovely ladies. It will be look but don't touch, apart from those few who have very deep pockets.
Great scoop... Very interesting to see how it all works. Much appreciated and really interesting. Thanks for the video.
We was in Pinup only 30 minutes the girl next to me knocked down 10 drinks she looked like she was going to be sick.
Amazing intel bro! Also...awesome story. We should boycot the establishment to help coax back reasonable deals like from years past.
And I thought I became more and more picky during the time I lived in Pattaya (2008-2016). Year after year there where less 9's and 10's. Good to know that I wasn't the only one who had this feeling.
My all time Fav Vlog, well done yet again Dazzler !
8 for you 4 for some of us :) Keep up the good work.
Good video Daz and looks like times are changing price wise.
High Season 😂😂😂Well, i love the “ new “ High S😁 Happy New Year 😊
Good to hear that some of the girls are earning some really decent money these days without needing to sell their all. I like it 👍
Depends on ones preferences. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
Happy new year. Have a good one. Cheers for video's. Roll on March.
All your videos are great. I have learned a lot from them. Thank you. Enjoy.
Glad you like them!
Yours is a most excellently interesting view. Well done.
hahaha I remember when I it was like shooting fish in a barrel, getting 8-10s on Soi 6 for 300 bar fine and room. Plus 700 for the lady. A short time was until you got bored. Often 2 or 3 hours if it was quieter in low season. That was back in 2000-2003. Now its 1400 bf with no ST room and 5 lady drinks at what ? 160 or 180 baht each ? Thats nearly $100 AUD before you have to pay the bird and get a room. What a joke. I would hate to be a punter in this day and age.
Thanks for your detective work, Daz!
A very happy new year Daz. Thank for all the great videos.
Forget the 10's, I'll take five 2's! 😄
your videos are the best.keep them coming.happynew year nad trust me there are thousands of people who would love to be there permanately
Happy new year!
Happy new year and thanks for the video!
If you are a bit older and in search for women in their thirties you won't have a problem to find a nice one for a reasonable price and a lot of hot fun. I always have avoided WS like the plague.
I was in pin up 2 weeks ago and the French manager told me the barfines at pin up are 2000baht before 12. And 1500 After 12. Definitely the most girls working at any gogo in Pattaya. Pin up has the best party vibe of any gogo. 20 10’s 20 9’s and rest average. You should go to Champagne go go in LK Metro was in 3 days ago, 10 10’s 10 9’s and rest average. 1500 baht barfines before 12 and 1000 after 12. You should also hit up Moon gogo next to Pin Up, 10 9’s and the rest were 8’s. 1500 baht before 12 and 1000 baht after 12. Very friendly at Moon.
I’m “friends” with several girls from Soi 6 and LK metro they are all making a killing on short times. They said business couldn’t be better. People are spending money.
Jeff my experience was completely different. I went to Champaign about a month ago there were zero stunners. Went to Moon gogo last night and absolutely zero stunners, most of them were so overweight the spinner who escorted me was mocking them under her breath.
This video was well needed! Thx for the intel!
Amazing Daz, thank you again for this beautiful story.
Great work World in Action has nothing on you 👍 Best wishes for 2023!
I've watched one of the Pin Up photos in interent and t've found MIckey, my favorite girl in the best youtube streaming dance show in Pattaya during the lockdown (Oh Bar show). She's, at least a 9 in anyone's view, a 10 for my taste. So, you are true. Absolutely crazy price.
Happy new year 🥳
Happy new year!!
This was way more informative then I thought before haha nice, thanks!
I am 77 years old, aney thing under 50 is good to go.
Just got back from Pattaya and I have to agree. I did see a few eights and nines in bars, but not many. Most of the real hotties were dancing (bored) in the go-go bars where they don´t have to go with customers because they make enough from wages/drinks and tips. I sat with a couple in LK Metro and bought them drinks for a couple of hours until it became clear I was just being played. I just wanted to bar fine the girl asap and go somewhere quieter where we could talk, but every time I brought it up she would avoid he question. Bar fines were 1200 Baht, with no short-time. In one go-go bar I had two beers and a vodka, she had four drinks, and my bill was about 40 quid! Nice for looking - and dreaming - but that´s all. I did visit a couple of clubs on Walking Street about 3am, where a lot of the go-gos go after the clubs close, and there were a lot of nines - but again, they had their eyes peeled for a certain kind of guy, a lot younger, richer and better looking than me unfortunately.
Yeah !!!
Thanks for another great video 👍👍
Nothing like getting the tour from Michael Caine
May the pilgrimage of every 9 and 10 from Isan begin!
There's none left. The birth rate is nearly 2.0 already. Isan isn't even particularly poor anymore. I live here, loved it in 2019, but frankly the show is over unless you're rich. I bet Amsterdam is better value these days. Surely South America must be.
I'm visiting soon and I'll be doing exactly the same stuff I was doing 20 years ago when I first went and hopefully in another 20 years time if I'm lucky.
Really Love your Content Video Uncle UK , The sound the Tone the Rhythm reminded me of The Story Teller of "Winnie the Pooh" but PATTAYA version !!. Thank You !! it's Great Video!
Brilliant video. Very informative. Your videos are by far the best from Pattaya. Also, I like the way you're not on camera. No offence, but I'm not watching pattaya to see some middle-aged guys face. Some of the other content creators have their ugly faces constantly on camera!
My thoughts exactly
I was having a long distance relationship with a bar girl that works at kink, and I have come the conclusion that she was definitely taking me for a ride, not to much cash sent to her but enough now, when she tells me she can't pay her credit card bill of 50000baht, that through me, and then tells me she will have to start being bar fined to pay it if don't help her.
That one hurt, and that's when it hit home.
Thanks to everyone to help us understand and see the light of what does go on in Pattaya with not all the girls, but many of them. Thanks
3000 monthly!! now I understand everything..thanks for your valuable videos
HI Daz, Great Video as usual. And I do agree with you Pin-up (and the new sister club XS- Go-go) employees about 300 girls between the two and most of them are at lest 8-10 (also Farenheight and Baccara are still good too). But I'm still wondering where the rest of the 9's and 10's are, I mean 600 girls between these 3 clubs is not all the girls that were here before covid. We are talking literally about thousands of hot girls that are still missing. I mean the top go-gos have always employed the best looking girls, before Pinup it was Sensations, Skyfall, and before that it was Saphire, Baccara, Lighthouse, Heaven Above (on Soi Diamond), WhatsUp?, Airport, Happy, Coyotys, (who remembers this one?), Super Girl, original Champagne, etc. but after all the go-go's there were still tons of hot girls found in the Beer Bars, Beach Road, I-bar/Insomnia, Lucifer or even that pool place on Soi Marine even at 6;00AM! But no more, where did the rest of the stunners go?
My theory: Thanks to Social Media, many of these girls are hiding behind dating apps and working as freelancers, working on Fans-Only type of sites, or working part-time taking advantage of the 10 day contracts, or hopefully not yet back post codvid. What is true is: Now, mostly 1-6's populate most bars on Treetown, LK-Metro, Insomnia/Lucifer/Candy Shop, and Soi-Buakao in general. What I think has stayed the same is Soi 6 I believe. Not sure if it is going to get better or worst in terms of quality.
What do you think?
Absolutely agree
I remember way back when bumper stickers were a thing. The most memorable one I recall said, “Two 5s are better than any one 10”.
For the past 10 months I have been wondering where are the 9s and 10s in Patong, Phuket. I think you have found the answer. a 30 year old bar girl friend of mine just returned from Isaan after the covid shutdown. she said the Isaan girls brought back their Thai boyfriends with them (returning to Patong). this supports your findings in Pattaya. thanks for the video. now we have the answer
When you're a 3 or 4 yourself, why would a 9 or 10 give you any attention -unless you throw a lot of money to her? Even then: up to her.
thanks Daz interesting to see what the best girls can make now, weather or not that level can be sustained remains to be seen. Happy New Year
Great video and so believe what you think is happening!
Happy New Year Daz! Great work as usual
I think 2023 is going to bring far fewer tourists. The world was closed for a while and people were eager to get back to pattaya and many had discovered it for the first time. I think the number of tourist will go down and that will lead to bars not being able to pay the girls what they have been. I may be wrong but it will be interesting to see.
I reckon you could be right.
YES, I have come to the same conclusion.
When the bars start to go bust after Song Kran, the surviving bars will Have to reduce those Crazy girl's wages or suffer the same fate , then prices should fall
@@minimalistation very good point. I hope pattaya is just getting started. I love Thailand. It's one of the best places on earth.
@@minimalistation I agree with you. I have been in Bangkok for 5 days now, and so far, all the good looking ones were duds. I have spent a lot of money but felt it's not worth the value. The 7's were very enthusiastic, but I didn't want to waste a bullet on them, and the 8's and above were boring in the sack. I still have 2 weeks left and will go to Pattaya tomorrow. But as of now, I feel like I had enough and may cut my trip short or go deep sea fishing to kill time. I definitely will skip Thailand next year. This is my 6th trip to Thailand, and very experienced with the night scenes. I have a budget of about $1000US a day yet it got boring for me on my 5th day. So money does NOT necessary buys you good entertainment....at least not like the past Thailand that I remembered. Vietnam will be my next year's destination!
For Westerners, you may be right. However, China has just ended a 3-year lockdown and India's economy is improving. That means almost 3 billion people! ! The most important part is they are more close to Thailand! It's mean short flight time and cheap air ticket...
@everythingpattaya great videos, keep up the good work. I've gifted towards your camera.
First time in Pattaya for Dec 2022 vacation, average is 500 bar fine, and 1200-1500 short time (compared to @thinkof100 mention).
(you can actually negotiate this further, if you locate the freelancers, and can get between 1000-1200 if not at the bar scene)
Visited Pin Up, great spot. Two notes: 1) need to go to the washroom, which is large - it is loaded with girls, quite a surprise, and 2) the boss is super cool, great personality, and was even dancing up on me. All in all, a great experience that I would recommend to all.
Already back home, and planning to visit again for 2023, if not long term to move there.
I can't take it anymore, I've subscribed! 😄
Well done detective work, my friend! Thank you!
That's CRAZY ! That's a month rent just to bar fine and not to mention you didn't say ST or LT , ... I miss the old day's but after the rush of the re- establishing hopefully it will change but if not I'm ok with having and 8 ... Besides I don't like crowded places or stages , I like the High Rollers Club !
Went to ty in June could not find a 10 so I got 2 fives!
My kind of guy! 😂
Well, unfortunately they are all gone. They left 25 -30 years ago.. I met my wife at the Sugar shack soi 1 Pattayaland in 1997.. she's not a 9 anymore now but still good enough. Happens when they turn 50 or more
Interesting info. thank you for sharing.
It seems that if you visited Pattaya before covid, you had the best years and if you are starting to visit now, sorry you missed the boat, especially if you are a middle aged westerner and its getting the same way in the Philippines, if you take the high cost of flights into account and you are looking for female company probably best to stay closer to home were the prices aren't that dissimilar.. As for local boys catching on to how much money the girls earn is called pimping. But looking on the bright side, it is cheaper to live there and there are still amazing things to do other than going into bars...
Speak for yourself David. Still an amazing place to visit and way better living than the West
@@RawDogTV I'm not saying it isn't, I'm just saying it's different to say 15 years ago, like everywhere else in the world.
Daz, you have the best content of any RUclips channel from Patts. You're not afraid to show the bars and streets at night but agree you need a new camera, at 1080p60hd the quality is really poor. You could double your subscribers with a bit of investment ...
I can confirm everything 100%. My good "old" friend (25) from Fahrenheit (Superstar 10) decides what is possible, not the customers. She earns at least 100,000 baht/month. On my last vacation, I was exceptionally lucky to be able to spend 3 days of free time with her twice - at a discount price. I don't know how I deserved this, but it was unique and unforgettable.
Good comments, thank you.
Drink Queens .. Pattaya Red Light district is turning a much lighter shade of red
Brilliant information. Thanks!
Just found an old advertisement for the Dimond agogo.... 60,000 baht a month. That was 2018. I was in the Windmill on payday and a girl there made 50,000 base salary a month.
The girls bar fined 2 or 3 times a month... But only if they like you or you are a high roller.
Over time the girls will get to know you and if you are polite and fun... They loosen up and prices come down. (But it takes 6 months.)
Damn!!!!!!!!!! I've been in there several times the last 6 weeks trying to barfie this little freaky spinner. She gives me the cold shoulder. I'm early 40s and average fit. But for some reason she always has her pussy right on an old fat gross guy's face every time I go in there. But I did see her hanging out in Baccara with a Korean and another girl he probably barfined at the same time, because they rotated on his lap. So sounds like she only like fat gross dudes or Koreans. I can't explain it.
love the content Simon happy new year to you and family