Can onshore wind revolution lower energy bills in the UK?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • If not swept away, then the restrictions on building onshore wind farms have been loosened, as the Government pledged to get rid of a de-facto ban which had been imposed since 2015.
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    Critics say the changes don't go far enough, but the Government has managed to stave off the threat of a backbench rebellion.
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  • @The_DrAstrov
    @The_DrAstrov Год назад +29

    We where told that they would bring down bills but the profiteering started and the bills got larger.

    • @paulgibbons2320
      @paulgibbons2320 Год назад

      Exactly Con artists.

    • @Vegan_Photographs
      @Vegan_Photographs 2 месяца назад +1

      @@paulgibbons2320but they SHOULD bring prices down if green energy is actually used, but the fact is crooks have been in charge! They are NOT the issue
      The fact the questions have been asked in this video “ But do they spoil the area” is fucking stupid

    • @paulgibbons2320
      @paulgibbons2320 2 месяца назад

      @Vegan_Photographs if they don't 'spoil' the area, the area is likely to be under water.

    • @MrRaisin56
      @MrRaisin56 3 дня назад

      @@Vegan_Photographs They are used, the power prices are set by the highest cost generation asset which is usually gas, so as a result gas sets the power price. High inertia assets like gas are important for balancing the grid and are necessary when there are no renewables. This is why the heavy and wind and solar strategy labour are proposing will not reduce bills, if anything will increase them, and will not achieve full net zero.

  • @VitoCorleone-tm2qc
    @VitoCorleone-tm2qc Год назад +61

    Nothing can lower energy bills when energy companies are in the private sector, look at the fall in the price of oil and the suppliers either barely moved an inch and provided penny’s worth of different and kept the rest or sucked up the full extra profits. The energy market will never ever ever pass on the full or even most if any of the benefits of positive impacts. It is utter avarice with them as no one holds them to account, not the government, not the media. It’s utterly infuriating. Nationalise the energy and water companies as they have shown they have zero sympathy for the people of this country and are only interested in themselves.

    • @michaelrch
      @michaelrch Год назад +3

      You're right. Kinda.
      The market structure is the problem. That needs to change to mean that the wholesale price isn't set by the most expensive source at any given time.
      If that was fixed (and to be fair it's a fiddly problem) then this cheap energy would actually bring down prices for consumers.

    • @joeblogs6598
      @joeblogs6598 Год назад

      It's not that energy is privatized, it's that there is no where near enough competition. There is so little competition due to government regulations.
      In any case, I know you won't listen so have fun with an ever larger government. 40% total managed spending and rising.

    • @michaelrch
      @michaelrch Год назад +7

      @@joeblogs6598 Texas has a highly deregulated energy market dominated by fossil fuels. Did you see what happened when they had a cold snap a couple of years ago? Due to low standards for weatherisation (protection from severe weather) which the energy companies had lobbied government to scrap, about a tenth of the system went offline overnight. People were being charged literally tens of thousands of dollars per day for power which they had no choice but to buy to avoid freezing to death in their homes.
      Grow up, Markets aren't the solution to every problem. Life isn't that simple.

    • @Rache28
      @Rache28 Год назад +3

      Well said. Rateable charges for water are a classic example of this for unmetered houses since 1973! Extortion! Get with the times and nationalise the lot!

    • @ukporkpie7829
      @ukporkpie7829 Год назад

      There has been no reduction in the price of petrol here in California despite the drop in costs. Load of greedy, capitalist bastards.

  • @maszlagma
    @maszlagma Год назад +30

    Ok but when are they going to build more electricity storage sites where they store cleanly produced electricity?

    • @memrjohnno
      @memrjohnno Год назад +1

      1,000,000%

    • @ianhamilton3113
      @ianhamilton3113 Год назад +3

      At the same time, probably.

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 Год назад +2

      Lot I the planning stage in Scotlands mountains. Also tidal power

    • @michaelatkinson7577
      @michaelatkinson7577 Год назад

      It is part of many Scottish applications (where we never stopped with onshore wind), battery storage and hydrogen production...

    • @jackdubz4247
      @jackdubz4247 Год назад +1

      @@michaelatkinson7577 Are the English still going to make us Scots pay over the odds for the green energy generated in Scotland?

  • @Firkinnel
    @Firkinnel Год назад +8

    I sold my house in Scotland 1 year ago and moved nr to Tarragona, Spain.
    I bought a 3 bed country house that has a 3 KW solar panel setup + 24V / 685A battery storage + 5KW Inverter.
    It still feels weird having free leccy !
    I can easily run high load items like my dishwasher or washing machine.
    Don't need a tumble dryer out here !
    Anything else like lighting, PC, fridge freezer, TVs, fans, Console etc use minimal power.
    Got a small backup genny to charge batteries but never needed it so far.
    It also has a solar vacuum tube (21) hot water storage tank on the roof.
    It providies hot water all year round.
    It can hit 97⁰ C in the summer months though. Scorchio !
    I am connected to a good water supply but the house also has a 16K litre rain water storage cisterna in the basement.
    Go Solar if you can folks, obviously easier to do in Spain.
    PS 12KG of butane gas for the cooker costs about £17 here.
    A Calor Gas 15KG bottle in the UK is £53.

    • @gchecosse
      @gchecosse Год назад

      Have solar here in Aberdeenshire. Free power in summer, including free fuel for the cars, not much in winter though.

    • @techtinkerin
      @techtinkerin Год назад +1

      I've got a 500w panel in my yard and 2 100 ah leisure batteries. More than enough to run laptop etc, and electric blanket in winter. Not bad for a tiny setup👍😎 definitely saves a few quid

  • @rogerbrady7772
    @rogerbrady7772 Год назад +2

    Name one country where windfarms have lowered the cost of electricity for the consumer. Crickets.

  • @susanwestern6434
    @susanwestern6434 Год назад +11

    No. It won't lower the bills. All new builds should have solar panels on the roof. Retro fitting on old builds, where possible.

    • @lancethrust9488
      @lancethrust9488 Год назад

      LOL SOLAR PANELS ARE RUBBISH AND THAT WILL COST TRILLIONS YOU LEFTISTS HAVE NO CLUE ON BUSINESS

    • @ianhamilton3113
      @ianhamilton3113 Год назад +4

      Solar as well as wind is already happening despite our weather.

    • @paxundpeace9970
      @paxundpeace9970 Год назад +1

      It's needs both solar and wind.

    • @lancethrust9488
      @lancethrust9488 Год назад

      @@paxundpeace9970 JUST NEEDS PETROL AND DIESEL BEST ENERGY POUND FOR POUND , 167 MORE EFFICANT THAN LITHIUM PER KG

    • @paulgibbons2320
      @paulgibbons2320 Год назад

      Turf roofing to reoxygenate. It's good. Insulation also.

  • @tomvandersteen5880
    @tomvandersteen5880 Год назад +14

    Hang on aren’t the Tories the ones that banned onshore wind farms in the first place? So wouldn’t that make this an admission that they’ve screwed up and put us back a decade in progress towards sustainable homegrown energy?

    • @ianhamilton3113
      @ianhamilton3113 Год назад +4

      I think you have summed it up perfectly.

    • @newlook1223
      @newlook1223 Год назад +1

      As Crown Estate owns and leases much of the seabed around this country its a gift for new king, curious what they gain in exchange..

    • @jujutrini8412
      @jujutrini8412 Год назад

      Yes.

    • @paulgibbons2320
      @paulgibbons2320 Год назад

      Hey they were just waiting for the right brown envelopes to land.

    • @andrewwilson6085
      @andrewwilson6085 10 месяцев назад

      Wake up! The "sustainable " energy goes into the grid, not to "homes" as they try to make us believe, we compete with German car makers, Belgian chemical factories etc etc so the price goes up, not down!

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 Год назад +5

    The UK has not fallen begind. England has fallen behind.

    • @colin4850
      @colin4850 Год назад +1

      So please tell me anywhere in the uk where all of your power comes from wind power

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 Год назад

      ​@@colin4850scotland is self sufficient in green electricity from wind and hydro. We still do fossil fuel electricity for export to England.
      You could have Google it.

  • @PDBath
    @PDBath Год назад +4

    Michael Gove is dangerous. He needs to go before he does anymore damage. It is not just this but other things where he lacks judgement.

    • @vincescotian8083
      @vincescotian8083 Год назад +1

      The Word 'judgement' should not be used anywhere near Gove.

  • @PorterB
    @PorterB Год назад +5

    Can anyone please explain to me with all this continuing nonsense of reducing energy bills - WHY DON'T NEW BUILD HOMES COME WITH SOLAR PANELLING AS STANDARD???
    In fact Gordon Brown made this proposal however long ago it was, and David Cameron decided to scrap it because it would be too expensive. It would take 20-30 years for the investment in solar panelling new constructions to repay itself then continue generating a positive energy income.
    Also how about passing a bill that prevents energy companies for profiteering from solar panel installations? They can charge the cost for the parts, labour and maintenance only, no extra which they absolutely do from the quotes I was given when I bought my house.

    • @The_DrAstrov
      @The_DrAstrov Год назад

      Simple answer. Most of the UK's land is owned by a few select families and they prefer to keep their grip on the land to offset their taxes and claim large cash payments in Government farming subsidies.

    • @michaelrch
      @michaelrch Год назад

      Because the Tories are funded by building companies who don't want to have to cut they'd margins by making good quality houses to high standards like other countries do.
      Short answer: corruption.

    • @PorterB
      @PorterB Год назад +1

      @@The_DrAstrov Not really that simple. I stated new builds - New builds are made on land purchased by the builder with permission from the council, and all new houses built have to follow housing standard regulations, E.G. it was added into those regulations in 2016 that all new builds must now include fibre to the premises.
      And I genuinely do not believe your claim that most land is owned by a select few families, quite ludicrous otherwise we wouldn't be having any new constructions anywhere.

    • @twolessba1087
      @twolessba1087 Год назад

      because the conservatives are all funded by oil giants.

  • @georget5874
    @georget5874 Год назад +3

    Can onshore 'wind revolution' lower electricity bills? No, they're hopelessly inefficient 1 power station generates hugely more electric than 1000s of wind turbines and obviously isn't dependant on the wind blowing, doesnt need 100 miles of new pylons, infrastructure, etc. We're in this mess because in the early 2000s British governments thought they'd just burn gas to generate electric and didn't bother investing nuclear power. If we were to build nuclear power stations now it would take decades for them to come online and they'd cost a fortune because we'd have to relearn the expertise that we've lost. Typical British politics - save a few pence in the short term and a fortune in the long term.

    • @vincescotian8083
      @vincescotian8083 Год назад

      In terms of energy management, the Tory Government have been asleep at the helm since they started. Gas production from the NS declined over 29% before 2020 there are only 2 Coal stations online and 2 on standby (starting decom) - they must pay carbon tax on this so an expensive method to make up any deficit. Nuke generation in England has been a massive disaster of mismanagement, delays and mega budget overruns. The vast Net zero output of Scotland is now fed through two new electricity cables capable of supplying over 2M homes with Net zero generation, these have been run from Scotland to North England the main one from Peterhead to Yorkshire which will connect to the National Grid and may well also supply Sanook’s mansion and pool.

    • @michaelrch
      @michaelrch Год назад +2

      Offshore turbines going up now produce 12-14MW each. So 71 of them (a midsize wind farm) is the same power as a large nuclear reactor. But the power from a new nuclear reactor costs about 18p/KWh (that number goes up every year) while the power from an offshore wind farm costs 4p/KWh (that numbers goes down every year).
      Onshore wind btw is about 3p/KWh. And while the turbines are a bit smaller (because it's impossible to move 120m long single piece blades on land) they are much cheaper to put up and install. They max out at 4.2MW at the moment. So each one powers about 2500 homes.
      Not bad considering you can park them in a field with farming going on around them and they take about a year to build.

  • @anglosaxonmike8325
    @anglosaxonmike8325 Год назад +2

    UK turbines produced almost nothing for the last week. Absolutely useless.

  • @Displays.1234.
    @Displays.1234. Год назад +16

    Except they're far from green, they rely heavily on an engine to start them and keep them turning at a slow speed, and they can't recycle the blades.. no wind no power Great, and they are very heavily subsidised.....

    • @James_Haskell
      @James_Haskell Год назад +12

      Better than fossil fuels

    • @anthonybrown930
      @anthonybrown930 Год назад

      Fossil fuels make your wind turbines.@@James_Haskell

    • @ianhamilton3113
      @ianhamilton3113 Год назад +4

      @@James_Haskell Yep, still beats the pants off of fossil.

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 Год назад +5

      No they don't. And they can recycle the blades being made now.

    • @IvanDeMarino
      @IvanDeMarino Год назад +4

      What if we put a nice gas powered plant in your constituency? No wait: what if we start digging for shell gas there?
      No?
      Didn’t think so either.

  • @biggobmalc8118
    @biggobmalc8118 Год назад +4

    Set aside the actual cost of the land and destruction and desolation that will be caused to the natural habitat and wildlife just to enable these wind turbines to be erected. Not forgetting that they felled sixteen million trees in Scotland just to erect a couple of hundred wind turbines. Sixteen million trees all-consuming copious amounts of CO2 and converting it into much needed oxygen. Chopped down gone forever.
    Offset the cost of manufacturer maintenance and construction of these wind farms and take into consideration the fact that when the wind doesn't blow, they don't generate power or when the wind is too strong their turned off to avoid overheating. Then equate all these figures and the amount of electricity they will generate against the cost over their lifespan which could be anywhere between 20 and 30 years, compared to the costs to generate the same amount of power from a conventional gas powered, power station (which will still be needed as a backup when the turbines are turned off for any reason) they are probably no cleaner and possibly no cheaper, so what’s the point of them, just to boost the ego of a few out of touch politicians, as and when they attend the next WEF party in Davos.
    Surely the greenest way forward is nuclear, especially now that technology is so advanced that construction of these power plants Would be nowhere near as prohibitively expensive as they were 10 or 20 years ago.

  • @steveholmes381
    @steveholmes381 Год назад +2

    Chancellor Jeremy Hunt announced that renewable electricity generators will face a 45% windfall tax from January 2023 until March 2028. By comparison, the windfall tax for the oil and gas sector will be set at a lower rate of 25% to 35%.
    This shows where the Government priorities are !

  • @thescarlettbandit5542
    @thescarlettbandit5542 Год назад +2

    We are nearly at 70m people in the UK. This is overpopulation according to our government. Facts.
    We NEED our land.
    This is ridiculous.
    There are too many conflicts of interest (and brown paper bags) with in our elected officials. Most of them have shares in energy.
    Where was the outrage from our government when oil executives took massive profits when the price of energy sky rocketed? There was none because most of them got their dividends.
    It’s abhorrent.

  • @simonbrooke4065
    @simonbrooke4065 Год назад +1

    Onshore windfarms have never been banned in the UK. They've been banned in ENGLAND. England is not the UK.
    Get it right!

  • @zoeartrc
    @zoeartrc Год назад +7

    They’re nothing but a blight on the landscape.

    • @mikehutchison4892
      @mikehutchison4892 Год назад

      They are beautiful.They produce the quickest,cheapest and easiest electricity.Why not try living without electricity in your home for a week and see whether your wife,your children,you,prefer living in the 21st century or not !

    • @zoeartrc
      @zoeartrc Год назад +1

      @@mikehutchison4892 Since you’re assuming my household relies heavily on electricity I’ll assume also…I can say without knowing you my electricity bill will be miles less than yours.
      And in this free world I’m entitled to my opinion,as you are, and again I say wind farms are a blight on the landscape…and they kill birds.

  • @michaelmcclafferty3346
    @michaelmcclafferty3346 8 месяцев назад +1

    Keep building windmills but reform the corrupt and anti customer energy market.
    Stop the £1 billion per year given to energy companies for switching off windmills.
    Here in northern Scotland our mountains are covered in windmills but electricity is kept artificially expensive.

  • @iareid8255
    @iareid8255 Год назад +2

    This myth of cheap wind electrcity is well past it's sell by date. Wind has never and will never be 'cheap'!
    It's technically not possible to run a grid on wind alone, it needs support by dispatchable generation to keep the grid stable and reliable. As more wind has been added, there is visible deterioration in stability and reliability. It is getting harder for the dispatchable generation to keep the grid online. It will get worse as we lose our nuclear generators in the next few years.
    Onshore wind produces very little, and going to sites in Scotland where the wind is stonger only makes the restrictions due to the capacity of the grid being unable to carry all the power when it's windy makes little sense.
    Ther should be a complete ban on any more onshore wind farms.
    Due to the complete lack of understanding of the technicalies of grid operation by the mainstream media, means the lay public do not get to know and understand the realities of renewables.

    • @MultiThibor
      @MultiThibor 5 месяцев назад

      ... and you have to add the capability for a black start, control of reactive power and providing spinning/instantaneous reserve, the latter one is required for frequency control.
      Renewables do work to a certain degree but become a hastle if they are overused.
      Nuclear is not the nicest form of energy, it is the only form of energy for our future.

  • @beniceffs
    @beniceffs Год назад +1

    Utter waste of money and a complete eye sore. They cost a fortune, have a relatively short life and don't work half the time. Oh and give the wealthy land owners buckets of tax payers money. It is a total scam. Tidal has to be by far the most sensible.

  • @andyroosterag
    @andyroosterag Год назад +2

    These things are usless! Gota power them up to start them which takes huge power off the grid and if there is no wind no power! How are we going to cope with all these ev vehicles drawing what we don't have

    • @paulanderson7796
      @paulanderson7796 Год назад +1

      We won't cope. They don't want us all in EVs at all. They want us out of private cars completely. People need to wake up to reality. This isn't about the environment or climate. It's about power and control.

  • @ianwalker268
    @ianwalker268 Год назад +1

    simple answer...NO

  • @paulfisher7911
    @paulfisher7911 Год назад +3

    no as its all privatised and shareholders need bonuses and the ceos of the companies need big wages . heres a question can any one find out how to cut out the broker ie eon or ovo or sctish energy .where we can buy energy direct from them and not a broker as its not national grid iv been trying to find out and i get no where

  • @michelemcguire8995
    @michelemcguire8995 Год назад +5

    Its not going to improve anything 😅

    • @ianhamilton3113
      @ianhamilton3113 Год назад

      Like pot holes in our roads? You could be right.

  • @importantname
    @importantname Год назад +2

    Can they reduce power cost - no they wont. Will they reduce dependance on the few nations that produce most fossil fuels - yes a little, and for that they are worth it. However, as each of us uses more and more energy, and as populations increases - both fossil fuels and atomic energy will be needed for a long time into the future. Renewables are only a small part of the solution.

    • @nicholasgrubb151
      @nicholasgrubb151 Год назад

      Its the two cars in the driveway when you only need one. Electric power cost is measured at the consumer's meter, for a 24/7/365 supply. Not the generator terminals for a 50% supply.

  • @loopwithers
    @loopwithers Год назад +9

    Funny how some people today complain about distant wind turbines but not the telegraph pole right next to their garden gate

  • @BillCooper1776
    @BillCooper1776 Год назад +5

    The insanity of net zero continues. I don't know how they keep a straight face.
    When will they ask us what we want?

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Год назад +1

      Oh they wont, because they know we'd say no if the public was informed what was actually involved, the costs and the truth that the only green energy is nuclear once you factor in the whole production, instead of just when they are up and running.

  • @elizabethwinsor-strumpetqueen
    @elizabethwinsor-strumpetqueen Год назад +1

    Getting off the teat of the energy companies is the only solution - it is not easy and the government do everything in their power to make it as hard as possible, because theyre in the back pockets of those very same companies.... nothing will change....

  • @martinb5626
    @martinb5626 Год назад +2

    doesn't matter one bit if the technology that carries that electricity isn't up to the job.

  • @davidwarnes5158
    @davidwarnes5158 Год назад +1

    We dont own the offehore ones , goverments of germany, denmark, and other countries make the money .

    • @michaelrch
      @michaelrch Год назад

      That neoliberal government for that. It's a shame on Labour that they don't reverse that.
      The Greens would though ✅

  • @ascgazz
    @ascgazz Год назад +13

    We should be, and should always have been, developing every form of energy we possibly can!
    Banning Green energy sounds absolutely insane to anybody with a working brain.

    • @slartibartfast7921
      @slartibartfast7921 Год назад +1

      Londongrad likes to help it’s buddy Russia sell it’s main source of revenue. Efforts to go green would be frowned Apon.

    • @tdsdave
      @tdsdave Год назад +3

      I'm with you to a point, I agree if it is green we should use it , but the blades on these things have a short lifecycle and are unrecyclable , they end up in landfill. In Scotland they have to use diesel motors in them throughout winter to keep them running . It often very hard to do the calculation on the C02 costs in production and running tech vs the savings , and often overlooked in deeming some tech as green.

    • @ascgazz
      @ascgazz Год назад

      @@tdsdave do humans always come up with ONE solution and disregard it if it’s not instantly perfect?
      What world are you living in? 😂

    • @tdsdave
      @tdsdave Год назад +1

      @@ascgazz
      The question is if the "toy" is counter productive as it stands , if so then make it better, before waving the checkered flag.

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Год назад

      There is only one green energy, and thats nuclear, everything else requires massive amounts of metal to be dug up from the planet, processed and transported, and then they cant be recylced when they reach the end of life. But of course green cultists either have no clue about these realities or just ignore them.

  • @techtinkerin
    @techtinkerin Год назад +1

    Nope but having your own off grid solar can😂

  • @MinkieWinkle
    @MinkieWinkle Год назад +1

    if it isn't nuclear, the answer is no

  • @CrossplatformGamerMasterRace
    @CrossplatformGamerMasterRace Год назад +1

    They look nice if they are spread out it's when they have loads together they can be an eye sore.

    • @mikehutchison4892
      @mikehutchison4892 Год назад

      Try running your home with NO electricity and see if you care about the eyesore outside !

  • @GoofBall-se6bo
    @GoofBall-se6bo Месяц назад

    There's a building in south London. A skyscraper with 3 wind turbines on the roof. They had to lock them in place. Birds fly past, get sucked in, and chopped up. There were thousands and thousands of dead birds on the far side of the roof.

  • @daviestewart1725
    @daviestewart1725 Год назад +1

    No. Bills are only going to go it one direction and that is up!

  • @andrewwilson6085
    @andrewwilson6085 10 месяцев назад

    When will people realise that the "national " grid is exporting electricity produced in Britain! There is no financial benefit for British consumers because the price is set by European, and global companies!!

  • @rozme9422
    @rozme9422 Год назад +2

    Basically China should control all our energies 😢😢

  • @alastairharris1866
    @alastairharris1866 11 месяцев назад

    No. Domestic customers pay a regulated price, with no difference on what the mix of supply is. It is the rent seekers who gain on this. From all ends!

  • @michaelrch
    @michaelrch Год назад

    5:41 oh FFS. This again!
    Where is the EVIDENCE that ULEZ was why the Tories held a seat that they had held for 40 YEARS ALREADY???!!

  • @ant647448336
    @ant647448336 Год назад +4

    De-couple the price per kWh generated by renewables/green from the price of gas and oil. That's the way to reduce bills.

    • @MinkieWinkle
      @MinkieWinkle Год назад +2

      except it wont during the night, or when the wind does not blow. as both wind and solar need a 100 percent back up, and that back up is gas

    • @stevec6427
      @stevec6427 Год назад

      @@MinkieWinkle Why does that mean you can't decouple the price? Renewable energy companies have been asking for their pricing to be decoupled, it's the fossil fuel energy producers who have been blocking it

  • @gino2465
    @gino2465 Год назад +3

    So do you beleave that comunitys will get reduced electricity. Lol lues

  • @NotMarkKnopfler
    @NotMarkKnopfler Год назад +1

    No, it can't.

  • @michaeld5888
    @michaeld5888 Год назад +1

    Cheap and warm when the wind is blowing but the big freeze when it isn't so how many will survive to the nexr windy day. How any system can be considered secure when there is no cogent talk about the storage facilities when we are entirely reliant on the unpredictable vagaries of the weather to supply energy. Solar in the UK when the sun is hardly above the chimneys in Winter even if visible through the clouds seems a non starter. If there is some plan to store enough to supply a UK grid scaled up to entirely replace gas and petrol for possibly months when Mother nature is not playing ball I would love to know.

  • @derekcole4949
    @derekcole4949 Год назад +3

    Onshore wind is currently the cheapest and quickest form of energy to deploy.
    Turbines have a 25 year lifespan and can be decomissioned afrer that if no longer required at that point (due to offshore, solar etc veing built) leaving little trace.
    We need to act quickly for a number of critical reasons.

    • @stevec6427
      @stevec6427 Год назад +1

      They have a 25 year design life but in reality last much longer (hundreds of them well over 30 years old in Cornwall & Scotland now). As a design engineer myself, i can tell you it's f**king impossible to design something to last a specific amount of time, all you can do is design it to last a minimum amount of time in the worst foreseeable conditions with the minimum maintenance. In reality, most will never see those worst case conditions and will receive good maintenance so last much longer than that 25 years

    • @derekcole4949
      @derekcole4949 Год назад +1

      @stevec6427 Agreed, but 25 years is the contractual timeline given for the upcoming Ripple turbines at Kirk Hill as an example.
      The point of my message is that onshore wind may only be needed for 25 years as science may supercede the requirement, but it is needed right now.

    • @anglosaxonmike8325
      @anglosaxonmike8325 Год назад

      HA ha ha ha ha hilarious....

  • @intheframemedia
    @intheframemedia Год назад

    energy bills won't come down till we get rid of the tory corporate stooges

  • @Wind-oh-Wishp
    @Wind-oh-Wishp Год назад +2

    Reminder: wind turbines are the cheapest source of energy, and windmills can be made out of basically anything.

    • @Threadbow
      @Threadbow Год назад

      Wind mill for small holding possible I'm I'm uk

  • @peteraston4753
    @peteraston4753 11 месяцев назад +2

    Windturbine blades made from fibreglass do not decompose

  • @joeconnolly89
    @joeconnolly89 Год назад +3

    total waste of money its a total conn job
    Wake up people

    • @michaelrch
      @michaelrch Год назад

      Onshore wind costs about a third what it's costs to produce power using gas, and about a 6th of what it costs using nuclear.

  • @XENONEOMORPH1979
    @XENONEOMORPH1979 Год назад

    simply no and to expensive and the blades can not be recycled and heavily maintaining them cost more and kills birds.

  • @roboldx9171
    @roboldx9171 Год назад +4

    I'm a Brit living in Germany, and I can confirm, that the wind farms in Germany are beautiful in the landscape and add to the beauty of the landscape. They are not ugly.

    • @prideofdurham4776
      @prideofdurham4776 Год назад +3

      I can see 20 from my village and they look awful.Electric bills have risen since they were erected 15 years ago. Pointless eye sores.

    • @roboldx9171
      @roboldx9171 Год назад

      @@prideofdurham4776 Eye sores to you maybe, Pointless? I very much doubt it.

  • @Otherworldsmeditation
    @Otherworldsmeditation Год назад

    There goes our remaining bird life. We will miss them when they're gone. I hate greenies.

  • @davidgalbraith694
    @davidgalbraith694 Год назад +1

    Anyone ask how much oil is needed in each of these wind turbines each year wheres that coming from 😂

  • @bobbybawbager
    @bobbybawbager Год назад

    No!! But they will happily waist our taxes on it anyway!!

  • @ozr42
    @ozr42 Год назад +1

    ruins whale migrations patterns, more whales on uk beaches

  • @Tyler.i.81
    @Tyler.i.81 Год назад +1

    No because Maintenance costs are too high in America British contracts are over running Germany scrapping wind power for coal . It would be better to invest money into fusion research. Plus wind turbines kill sea bird's.

  • @vesternor
    @vesternor Год назад

    no

  • @JelMain
    @JelMain Год назад

    You only need one, in the middle of the Commons Chamber. Iceland eat your heart out with your volcanic heat, we'll set up a waffle stall outside.

  • @XxTheAwokenOnexX
    @XxTheAwokenOnexX Год назад +1

    Offshore wind farms produce more energy, and it would lead to cheaper bills for people than onshore wind farms 🔥👊

  • @jaymac1694
    @jaymac1694 Год назад +2

    Yet another miss use of taxpayers money

    • @michaelrch
      @michaelrch Год назад +1

      Where? How is this cost taxpayers anything?

  • @j.p.9295
    @j.p.9295 Год назад

    Why they dont find a way to put sollar panels on top of big cty buildings

  • @michaelrch
    @michaelrch Год назад +1

    Skidmore, that rare thing - a halfway sensible Tory.
    Still voted for austerity over and over of course!

  • @Dairy917
    @Dairy917 Год назад

    No!

  • @Alex-gd9sx
    @Alex-gd9sx Год назад +4

    The british countryside is all the UK has going for it at this point - i hope they think twice. Offshore is the way forward.

    • @The_DrAstrov
      @The_DrAstrov Год назад +2

      I live in the country side and yes it looks great from a distance but up close it's FCK'D. Go see for yourself. You'll find empty filed after empty field. No livestock , no crops , just empty green fields devoid of life being used by the rich to offset their taxes and claim large cash payments in government farming subsidies. Better wind farms and lower prices then empty field that offers almost ZERO environmental benefits.

  • @BelisarioHRomo
    @BelisarioHRomo Год назад

    Of couse NOT!!!

  • @TheGodParticle
    @TheGodParticle Год назад

    It's all bs, everyone was conned

  • @steverichmond7142
    @steverichmond7142 Год назад +5

    I live in Scotland and am a shareholder in a wind farm which is 2 miles away . They are wonderful and enhance the look of the area.

  • @Sjoldschool
    @Sjoldschool Год назад

    They are just statues on the hillside and hardly turn

  • @8ballphil150
    @8ballphil150 Год назад +1

    no bills will ever go down . shareholders and greed will never allow it . look at fuel for example ?. OPEC created a shortage deliberately and the prices soar .

    • @michaelrch
      @michaelrch Год назад +1

      Ah but that's the beauty of renewables. They are impossible to monopolise because the barrier to entry is so low.
      In the past, if your town (say), wanted to set up its own energy supply, that was flat out impossible. The supply chains required to operate a fossil fuel plant are massive and global and dominated by a small number of huge companies. Think mines, processing, plant construction, maintenance, machinery, etc etc
      No community can do all this do you are reliant on those big greedy corporations, as you say, and you're permanently screwed.
      But with renewables, all you need to do is buy some solar panels, a wind turbines or two, probably a battery and a connection to the local grid and that's 99% of the job done.
      Renewables don't just clean up the energy system. They open the door to radically democratising it as well. 😀

  • @50_Pence
    @50_Pence Год назад

    Tories donners just given enough time to sell shares and reinvest without looking sus

  • @stevehowell231
    @stevehowell231 Год назад

    Are you saying I'm a lobster?

  • @stevehowell231
    @stevehowell231 Год назад

    No.

  • @georgeheggie1274
    @georgeheggie1274 Год назад +1

    Obviously not!! The north of Scotland is covered with them it looks terrible and still paying over the odds

    • @vincescotian8083
      @vincescotian8083 Год назад +1

      Ofgem have failed to
      - introduce fair pricing
      - protect People and Business from 3x to 5x price gauging
      - introduce fairer clearing and contracts for all energy types
      - develop the Energy market and encourage Infra, Supply and Storage

  • @gino2465
    @gino2465 Год назад

    I would not because they are not going to help as much as people think. Wr need nuclear power stations

  • @michaelrch
    @michaelrch Год назад +1

    10:58 the sound of Miliband knowing he (and the country) has been betrayed by Starmer

  • @tonywoodford9164
    @tonywoodford9164 Год назад

    I like ed . Although I voted conservative. I'd vote for ed if he was leading.

  • @christroth8160
    @christroth8160 Год назад +3

    When large areas of land are cleared of trees etc to make room for these obscene constructions were harming the environment not saving it. The upset to the balance of the ecology will start to show just at the same time as the CO2 offset in their construction is felt. Lack of wildlife, insects etc cannot be easily measured, no bees = no fruit = no crop for example. This is happening in Norway, the green agenda seems to do more harm than good.

  • @brushlessmotoring
    @brushlessmotoring Год назад

    When did Channel 4 become the Daily Mail? Did Murdoch but this channel out too? What is going on here with the anti green tone from the interviewer?

  • @alastairharris1866
    @alastairharris1866 Год назад

    No. Next stupid question?

  • @colintwyning9614
    @colintwyning9614 Год назад +1

    Milliband 💯

  • @Thedrifter1
    @Thedrifter1 Год назад

    Well, when you push manufactures to emerging markets you need to find & fund projects in western, developed countries.

  • @alexleeman8277
    @alexleeman8277 Год назад +1

    So it’s illegal to remove a birds nest 🪺
    BUT
    If your the UK government you can shred up as many wild birds as you like with your giant nature grinding turbine
    So fare 😵‍💫

    • @The_DrAstrov
      @The_DrAstrov Год назад +3

      They don't shred birds. What a stupid thing to say.

    • @DJB01
      @DJB01 Год назад +1

      I have a giant tower in France to sell you, if you’re interested. Central location, has stood the test of time, and it’s absolutely mine to sell.

    • @nathanlewis42
      @nathanlewis42 Год назад +2

      cats kill 55 million birds a year in the UK. More than an order of magnitude greater than windfarms at their worst.

    • @bigfluff73
      @bigfluff73 Год назад

      Oh well that's alright then. Fox hunting only kills a marginal amount of foxes, let's allow that too.

    • @nathanlewis42
      @nathanlewis42 Год назад

      @@bigfluff73 fox hunting does not benefit the environment. Do you have any idea how much damage using fossil fuels instead of renewables causes?

  • @dazzwsmith
    @dazzwsmith Год назад +1

    Micro generation is often overlooked. Local storage, lack of large distribution networks needed, in situ generation as its needed.

    • @stevec6427
      @stevec6427 Год назад

      Large scale generation will always be more efficient than micro generation and storage. The laws of thermodynamics mean you can never change that

  • @jacksmith5399
    @jacksmith5399 Год назад

    This is all well and good but a huge bottleneck to the energy transition right now is electricity transmission, not generation. There is no point building renewable generation if we can’t move the power. The transmission system we have now was built in the 60s to transport coal power to demand centres - now this is all changing and we cannot keep up. £billions spent every year on constraints because of a lack of transmission capacity. If we want real benefits, reform transmission planning.

  • @ianliston-smith7921
    @ianliston-smith7921 Год назад

    Oh come on. Betteridges law of headlines?

  • @paulhicks8982
    @paulhicks8982 Год назад

    They should be shared equally in rural and urban areas rather than dumping them all in the countryside.

  • @JCJW101
    @JCJW101 Год назад

    If renewable enerrgy providers sold electricity at what it costs them (with profit) rather than having to sell at the current highest price which is set by oil and gas it would reduce the overall wholesave cost of electricity and our energy bills. #DecoupleRenewableEnergyCostsFromOil

  • @noellythall8284
    @noellythall8284 Год назад

    A false hope.

  • @emmajayne9504
    @emmajayne9504 Год назад +2

    No it just kills all the birds 😢

    • @The_DrAstrov
      @The_DrAstrov Год назад +2

      No they don't.

    • @nathanlewis42
      @nathanlewis42 Год назад +3

      cats kill 55 million birds a year in the UK. More than an order of magnitude greater than windfarms at their worst.

  • @presstodelete1165
    @presstodelete1165 Год назад

    Cough, anyone heard about the Whale problem?

  • @CowHorace
    @CowHorace Год назад

    Eco fascism is here

  • @stevenkillington5041
    @stevenkillington5041 Год назад

    Wimd,olls are unrealistic yhey last ten years and then you cant recycle at all

  • @tibsyy895
    @tibsyy895 Год назад

    Onshore wind: Beauty or survivability of the globe.
    I chose the latter!

  • @inbb510
    @inbb510 Год назад

    Nimbys will always be nimbys

  • @BabsW
    @BabsW 7 месяцев назад

    2:11 Is that Kirsty Edwards of Sky Sports News?

  • @richardtacey4131
    @richardtacey4131 Год назад

    Talk wind sell wind full of wind same old😅

  • @donttrip8282
    @donttrip8282 Год назад

    Lolz, Keir Stalin isn't factional or secterian? Wow 🤥🤥🤥

  • @henryschwaiger6568
    @henryschwaiger6568 Год назад

    Poor birds.

    • @The_DrAstrov
      @The_DrAstrov Год назад

      The birds fly over them or around them. People said the same thing about windmills back in the day.

  • @notjustforhackers4252
    @notjustforhackers4252 Год назад +1

    No. It won't lower bills.