Loon On Why 'Bad Boy' Artist Went Broke: "I Own My Publishing"
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- www.comedyhype... - Amir formerly known as 'LOON' continues his talk with HYPE+. The former Bad Boy artist speaks on his dealings with Bad Boy and Diddy. Instagram: @ComedyHype & Twitter: @ComedyHype_
Loon aged so beautifully
That’s how you age when you have a brain and can read contracts 😍
Allahuma barik lahu
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This is how one age when your trust and have peace with The Creator of The Heavens and the Earth. Alhumduillah 🤲🏾
And peacefully, even I'm a born Muslim. I'm really envious to what he became.
You can tell Loon is at peace with his life. That is all that matters.
You can se it he's aging backwards
It's beautiful..
The brother is speaking to humanity, character and humility. Narcissist lack those qualities. Shout out to that brother and all the best.
Couldn't have said it better. Spot on!!!
Happy for loon I’m also from Spanish Harlem and to see this man contribute to Allah and become a wise man is true strength 🙏🏾
ZATINTHEODORE 🗽
I met Loon on the Street in DC once right atvthe height of his career. In fact I think he was just leaving a spot after an appearance. He had no entourage. We spoke and kept it moving. Bro was humble with a big smile on his face. Good brother
Man speaking a lot of truth. I'm currently retired due to disability. But I was one of those kids from the hood that managed to avoid all of the pitfalls that take us off the path. I graduated high school, college, etc. I was even a sales rep at a bank. If you don't know what that is it's the person that brings in revenue for the bank. I'm one of those people who as I learn things wanted to take them back to the fam. People always ask you how to do different things or want to run business ideas past you. But when you have to shoot down a plan or tell them why something doesn't work the way they think it does, they get upset and call you a hater or a sellout. This is even when you offer them an alternative to the plan they came up with or suggest that they take a class or get into a program that can help.
You end up still trying to help these people that are calling you a hater or think that you feel like you're above them. But None of these people knows the grind of the dozen part-time jobs, grant applications, student loans, internships, and still carrying a full class schedule all while keeping the 3.0 or higher GPA you need to keep whatever partial scholarship you have. But these same people will want you to invest in their idea without wanting to do a fraction of what it takes to follow through on this idea.
You can offer people opportunity, which is more valuable than money, and they will curse your name for not just giving them the money. The funny thing is once you fall off so to speak these same people will celebrate your fall and some will even love you again. Cold world bro. We have to do better as people.
God bless anybody reading this.
This is why education matters. People can and will take advantage of you if you allow it. Respect to Loon for sharing!
Got a lot of love for Loon. The growth from his heyday in the late 90’s is so awesome. You are blessed to get to the other side of game with your mind right.
Yes because everyone had a unique style
Loon wasn’t out in the late 90’s. He was out in and around 2004
@@tonytilahun8352 you are speaking on when you might’ve heard of him. He’s been known for years before that.
This BROTHER has a calming uplifting spirit that ge carries BLESSINGS 🙌
Somebody that was actually signed to diddy and own their masters? Wow? This is like seeing Bigfoot with your own eyes! 😂😂😂
Only if your masters are worth anything. Loon doesn't have the catalog like the other artists
Facts🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@@onlinegigpay710 a catalog is a catalog
@@onlinegigpay710 That’s a fact !
One who doesn’t know is ignorant but one who doesn’t learn is foolish.
Brother Loon 🙌🏾 For keeping it real, informative and classy. Ppl leave those 360 deals alone.
Good to see that brotha doing well!
Great interview and Loon insights are indicative in my opinion of someone who has a sincere understanding of what people need to have Empathy compassion and gracefulness. Wow thanks for sharing your insights and hopefully we get some joints from you sooner than later beloved
Loon was getting them yams he never fell off will never fall off. He’s street connected.
I love his beard long and grey never be afraid of getting older it's a beautiful thing
I remember 10 years back he was supposed to come to Toronto for a big Islamic conference he was at the border then got locked up it was so random I love this brother he’s such a humble amazing brother! We’ve been rocking with you in Toronto ❤
The late great R&B Icon, Record Producer, Musician Kashif's book is like a Bible to aspiring and existing recording artists and musicians. Gotta know the business.
Loon is telling the truth about it all.
It's also good to have an excellent entertainment attorney (outside) of the record company and music producers attorney. If certain recording artists did that they would have not been broke the first time around. Those recording contracts usually are designed to go in favor of the record company,record producers etc. Usually not for the recording artist.
I love you guys Interviews!! Man so deep and introspective. Loon was the Dark skin Mase. He was essentially mase’s replacement when he left. Same smooth Harlem flow Pretty boy ladies man that mase had. He filled a void and did pretty good. I don’t remember him dropping an album, but he had some good features. He has evolved and I don’t see him as a “victim”. He did well for himself. Good interview.
He had a self titled album in 03
@Regal Tone T - Yeah, you trippin'. Loon, his self-titled debut album, had that song "How u want That" on it. He had a video and everything for it. That was and still is one of my all-time favorite jawns. He also had one when he left Bad Boy called "No Friends."
He ain't fall off,he did him,smooth operator,his swag will be legendary, facts, always dug him
Mase wasn't exactly on the lighter side...🤔
I was just listening to his album he have like four but he would have been better knowing he had that calm demeanor Kobe he speaks
Spoke like a wise man. I don't know if Puff cares about the people who died on his watch. But everything else I have mad respect for Loon. Can't be biter.
Is puffy a superhero? Nobody died "on his watch"
@@asparagusonly right.
@@asparagusonly 😁 cmon dude . It his watch if people die at a concert you promoting or people get shot up at a club based on your beef aka shyne ....lastly biggie getting shot in an entourage without enough security or adequate security all on his watch.
@@dsmartblack2 no it's not, that's why police and security are at events and clubs. Biggie was hit while sitting in a whip unless that whip was bulletproof then it doesn't matter how much security you have.
@@asparagusonly he is still responsible , it is his name on the line either as a promoter or label boss . The car did not have to bullet proof but there should have bodyguards around him
Great! Very humble and inspiring from brother Amir
These are the interviews I enjoyed when I first subbed to this channel and then something happened 😒 but KEEP THIS UP 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❣️❣️
You can tell he looks at life and plays life like chess ♟️ his view is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy beyond ground level
It’s crazy he spoke on “Everything You’d Better Know About The Music Industry” by Kashif. I literally just spoke on Tuesday for 20 minutes during my Twitch stream about the importance of reading that book! Especially if you plan to be a recording artist or producer. It was super helpful in preventing issues for me.
I'm Loons age and me and my biz partner are always having this convo. I tell him the information has always been out there to be consumed by the artist and he'll say they from the streets or aint got time to learn the info and I just shake my head! That book old AF but now with the internet there's no excuses. Imo!
When my little cousin released her first single via SoundCloud told her to read that book, she bought the audio version and took notes. Fast forward a few years, she just came back from her first overseas tour and is shakin’-N-bakin’ on the college circuit, all due to the insights she got from that book.
Yo, that Kashif book was written 'bout 25 years ago. Is it still relevant today with streaming and the absence of physical CD sales?
@@KidsLearnHTML there is a part two
It all boils down to leaders and followers. The followers looked at puff as a savior. And the leaders evolved
brother Amir is bringing the Knowledge and spirit and energy much respect brother you are an inspiration 🙏🏽💯
"... don't appreciate nothing but we want everything.? I felt that. I used to tell my nephews when their Mom was busting her ads to provide for them what she felt she didn't have growing up. They knew the price of everything but the value of nothing.
What he saying it’s like we lose sight of the bigger picture trying to react to how someone else is acting.
Every time I sees this man his face seems to radiant with light
Lessons in the message 💪🏾💯
He had me up until talking about Puff giving a damn about any of those people that died. Puff don’t care at all
I'll just say this, if Puff, the CEO of the company is still OUTWORKING the artist like Mase, Black Rob & G-Dep, there will be a disconnect with Bad Boy as a label! Puff gave too much of a fuck, while certain artists thought they made it already!
@@TGF25 if damn near 100% of his artist feel a way, it ain’t them. And the ones singing a different tune now just Cap
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You are absolutely right and give me a goddamn break. The music industry is notorious for ripping people off. Even Elvis, the Rolling Stones and the Beatles and let’s not forget Sam Cooke’s lawyer stole all of his publishing.
Sad but I do believe this to be true
Everybody get fuck in the game except the record company's.Puff only doing what was done to him when he first got started.He got fuck with no vasoiline work hard got his own lable.Now he fucking people the same way. He open the door for a lot of artist's.Its up to them to learn the game hustle and work hard like him. 50 cent, Nelly,Dr Dre,Eminem,Juicy,Birdman etc done then some thing.Nicky Minaj,Drake Lil wayne R I Ri,got fuck by the record lables but they walk thru that open door work hard and done bigger and better things.They don't need the record labels amy more They their own bosses.
Having worked with several brothers in the industry when I was younger one of the things I noticed was most brothers were only interested in getting to the bag and getting famous…then when you try to educate young brothers about the business and how this is a process they would always look a away and say “yeah, yeah, yeah” and what that means is I really don’t want to hear what you have to say just help me make it…this is why so many black people fail in business is because we are always trying to find ways to cut corners, we lack discipline and we are unwilling to put in the work it takes to be successful…
THE GOOD BROTHER LOON ALHAMDULLILAH 🤲🏿🤲🏿
A very powerful interview. Great job.
Right ✅
11/8/2022
I'll just say this, if Puff, the CEO of the company is still OUTWORKING the artist like Mase, Black Rob & G-Dep, there will be a disconnect with Bad Boy as a label!
I used to have a massive crush on Loon 😍😍😍
Loon in the game cause loon got some hot shit !
Loon stay dropping gems salute to him and Comedy Hype 💯
Loon basically is saying Diddydid his job by giving you a chance and it's really up to you what you did with it.
No thats not what he is saying. He is saying that if u dont educate urself, a snake like Puff is gonna bite you as many times as he can. Not to mention, Loons publishing isnt valuable so its easy to say that, meanwhile, the artists who's publishing he been living off of cant say the same. If Puff thought Loon's publishing would keep him eating for a while, he wouldnt have done it.
I always loved Loon. Loon my guy.
Salute
Bruh. That was dope. He really spoke well and hit those points home. Very impressed.
WoW! I did not expect that from Loon. Wise words indeed.
Brother loon good looking for real
Alhamdulilah this brother has made a complete 360 giving us game well received.
This brother has common sense. It’s refreshing to hear this.
good advice and reminder for everyone...do your homework before getting into a business...overlook shortcomings...be grateful
He sounds so logical, educated, humble &at peace ❤❤ i love this so much for him!! An educated, intelligent , calm black man will always be attractive &Goals ❤
Great interview
Assalamu alaikum by far one of the best song writer's to ever step off the block 100% Harlem
Craig Mack, Biggie, The Lox, Mace, Black Rob, Shyne, G-Gep, Loon. Puffy had a hell of a roster.
I owned a Takeout restaurant in Charlotte up until about 7mths ago. There was this guy who would come in and tell us his "woo is me" stories of being on Bad Boy and having bad contract. Whether true or not i never challenged him. My thing is you let whatever it was dictate the last 20plus years of your life. Contract or not, how do you use the contacts, relationships, knowledge learned etc moving forward. This guy clearly wasn't where he wanted to be in life but hell thats life..PIVOT! Life gonna have challenges you have to adapt. I went military at 17, did my tenure, became a Chef for hella years, now currently small % owner in Marijuana license in Maryland. I educated myself along each phase and work towards goals. Im done hearing Wyt people this, Wyt people that..blacks have owned property and been business owners and leaders since forever now. Loons character and perception of life you can tell is why he's in a good place after loosing years of his life incarcerated while others still had opportunities outside.
Amir - tha man after my own heart😎
I'm among the people who've been hating on puff but after the breakfast show interview and then this,i might start changing my opinion about him we've always judged him without hearing their side of the story (not does it bother him) but looking at how his former artists have ended up makes you wonder what kind of business they were doing.
He's right. If u don't understand what ur reading. Take a lawyer.
Gene Deal needs to hear/watch this video
Ungrateful nggas, talking about “how we had it”
Here is my take. Even if an artist doesn't know the business, doesn't mean you got to take them for a ride. I heard stories that Puffy would be offering to buy artist's publishing on whim that they didn't understand the value.
Loon is right , understand the contracts before you signup first
Yoooo dope video 🔥🔥🔥. Especially the end he hit that nail on the head 🎯🎯💯💯!!
Dope interview!
That’s what people don’t understand. Nobody can screw you over unless you let them. He just said it, he understood the business. The other bad boy artist didn’t. Loon wasn’t thirsty to be a Star. Every one wants to blame Puff, but not the artist for not educating themselves. They want Puff to be the teacher, parent, guardian, etc… Educate yourself.
Exactly. Puff believed in those artists more than they believed in themselves
I might grow my beard back..
He and Gdep had a great dual album a couple years back.
Stop blaming Puff and do better business deals. Thank you Loon
He interviewed Doug E. Doug?? I have to see this!
Im just glad he walked them 10 years down like a true RIDER.
Everyone's situation is different Loon should just speak on his situation because everyone else talking the same talk.
I agree bro, this brother saying what he need to say to stay in Puff good graces. 50 dudes say you shady and 1 don't. Yeah okay.
Music 🎵🎶 ownership is important for longevity. I'm all for music 🎶 ownership. Great video 😌📸
I agree but how long do you keep an artist publishing and call yourself fair and just
A beautiful interview, I hope there is more to come. Smart man owning his publishing. BTW King Loon you looking fly as ever. I hope the parties can unite as in Puff and Mase. I hope Puffy settles all that debt he has with the other artists as well. Plus give them their masters. They need their masters..
Puff still a shady business man..like Loon said he knew the business thats why he didn't get screwed
STRONG!
Seem like every question he gets asked he don't saying nothing other than it's in his doc, and doesn't say a whole lot about no publishing.. smh
This my first time seeing loon in 20years
Loon beard is amazing
He still looks good
I see a black King 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
whats the documentary called and whens it out?
His beard sprouted!
Puff gave a standard record contract. U don't get what u deserve u get what u negotiate.
Bro we look at puff as if he is a father to these artists but it's just business. Artist have to handle their finances them selves. How come other artist like shyne say still got their badboy money?
I just keep looking at the beard and seeing it as a Disguise. 😂 shout out loon tho
Puff paid him good. He said puff respected his good business tactics & that means being deceptive.
Everyone can’t be lying about Diddy !!!! Look at people like jada kiss he a PROFESSIONAL MUSIC ARTIST that understands the game and somehow some way diddy managed to screw him over !! Maybe loon got lucky .. but there’s a lot of others that hasn’t !!! And there not lying when there telling there truth !!
Humble❤❤❤❤
all contracts of interest in the mediation & arbitration agreements
I had the opportunity to meet this brother.. Definitely humble and walks with Allah .
That beard is beautiful.
Dope
Big Dawg Barkin💯😎
Loon a wise man 💯🗿
His own doing he should’ve handled his business accordingly with property & casualties
Loon looks good.
Just bc you gave me an opportunity doesn’t mean fuck me over whn I’m doing the hard part take yo 10-15 hell maybe even 20% and gone bout yo business break another artist and I’ll make sure I carry my weight. But bc u robbing me and I gotta put my publishing in other peoples names to get a check is insane! No matter how slice it dude a snake
Loon coming through with the wisdom... Still handsome as all get out. 😏
How did you get into the industry Loon? Its a direct question. Did you float around some mixtapes? Did you do promo? Do you have a childhood friends with connections? How Loon? Lemme google to try and get a straight answer.
Seem like this channel is trying to make puffy look good. Nothing in the world could ever make me think puffy is a good guy.
Thank you loon stop blaming puff
Loon- Stop Playing frfrf
He owns his publishing because there's no songs out of loons catalog that any company is looking to lease. Trust me! if he had material on Biggies level he wouldn't have no publishing.
It doesn't work like that lol. Cam signed over his publishing before he put out a record. Loon still eats. Shit, dep still gets checks.
That’s not true at all Loon owns his publishing because his Godfather was a Hollywood executive who taught him the business. Loon wrote a lot of songs for Puff as well as himself. I Need A Girl 1 and 2 Loon wrote both of those and those songs get used in movies and tv shows to this day. Puff took advantage of artists who had no bargaining leverage during contract negotiations but Loon had leverage because he knew the business and he also had done business with Clive Davis who owned Arista records which distributed Bad Boy at the time that’s why Loon kept his publishing.
Lol, He owns his publishing because he handled his business, period, you don’t have to sign a bad deal you know.
Yes Loon handled his business but he had a leg up in the business that most aspiring artists don’t have. Most young artists don’t know about the business side of entertainment in the beginning, their just happy to be living out their dream and hopefully change their fortunes and the fortunes of others around them. It’s not until they start getting their royalty statements that start understanding the what they signed and the language in the contract. Most of them don’t have adequate entertainment lawyers to represent them. You see it in boxing with Gervonta Davis and Floyd Mayweather and how Gervonta is upset the contract he signed. Most new artists have talent with no leverage and the labels can offer them a fucked up contract and they usually sign their rights away. If you have a buzz you can dictate terms. Look at 50 Cent he had a crazy buzz when you signed, he kept all his rights and got a million dollar advance. Loon knew the business and he had a ghostwriter before he started dealing with Puff so he had leverage unlike Ma$e.
I meant to say Loon knew the business and he was known ghostwriter throughout the industry before he started dealing with Puff and also Loon wasn’t signed directly to Bad Boy. Loon was part of Harlem World and through that deal he got a songwriting deal with Arista the parent label of Bad Boy at the time. So Loon was doing business with Clive Davis before Puff.
He better get the book together as as possible because like MJ, THIS IS IT. Wait, you just insulted all those people who signed with BB.
Probably because he didn't wanna do a shopping date Diddy 😂😂😂
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My dude loon is a very wise king big up 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I think why some people don’t have much sympathy is because too many rumors especially those were in his own camp who say if brought this on himself. Some people have said he had a hand in Kim’s death because she was about to put out a tell all book before she, a healthy woman, mysteriously got the pneumonia that took her out. Biggie was on his way out of Bad Boy…right before his murder. So yeah, anybody would have sympathy for someone who went through these losses but it’s kind of hard when folks from your own camp is pointing the finger at you. Not saying at all that he’s guilty. Just saying it’s stories out there that leads back to him.