As a woman, you got my like on this vid the moment you said “we don’t need to prop up mediocre artists just bc they’re women” (rough paraphrase bc I can’t remember things I watched minutes ago alas) because YES THANK YOU. Women don’t deserve accolades just for being women doing things! Especially when there are so many women deserving of accolades that get no attention. Anyway, I may not *always* agree with your musical takes, but I always appreciate your perspective, and especially so in this video.
Here's the truth: Some good musicians put out bad works sometimes Some mediocre musicians put out stellar work at times And even worse than all that, there are great music from a technical standpoint that just don't connect with you in particular. And all of those are okay. Just vibe and move on. This whole ESPNisation of music is good for no one.
People are probably gonna come after me but I haven't connected with anything Jacob Collier has put out yet. He's a good musician but it sounds so saturated man. It's always harmony here, harmony there. I like his collab with Lizzy McAlpine and John Mayer though
Yknow dude I actually appreciate this format and insight, I’ve been a channel follower for a few years for your documentary style videos but this was just as entertaining
@@buttermoth5861 Both talented artists for sure, but given their influence and presence in the industry you feel like they could be doing a bit more with their music these days.
@@4danzy this was exactly my point Like when you have effectively infinite resources to do whatever you want with your art and have a guaranteed listener base and you DON’T do anything interesting or try to push your artistry to new heights it’s more upsetting than if someone with no talent was trying to push the envelope Drake and Taylor are both guilty of this with the house experimentation on honestly nevermind and the folk songs on evermore/folklore both being underwhelming and bland for the genres. As a musician especially it just upsets me to witness (Sorry for the rant I have very strong feelings on these 2 artists specifically)
It’s so fucking accurate. They both have extremely large fan bases that excuse any of their behavior and will stream the fuck outta their music regardless of what it sounds like
I enjoyed Tate McCray's 'Greedy' track, but let's be real, no one will ever master the sexy bubblegum dance pop quite like Britney Spears did. Her greatest albums are practically pop bibles. It's wonderful to see critics recognizing her more in retrospect
Fully agree but I do see critics doing the same they did to Britney to current artists in the future. Right now they say their music is mediocre and that they can't sing or perform but later they'll say that their music was revolutionary and that they wish music at that time was more like theirs.
@@johansjournalnot everything was full auto tune by Britney, and it was never her fault bc her record label would never let her take full control of her work. If she did, her music would of been a lot different in a different universe
i honestly agree with everything you said. i'll just add that even when some female artists don't make the greatest music they still put on a show a thousand times better than most male artists out there. i actually can't name a lot of great current male performers besides Bruno Mars, BTS, Tyler the Creator, and.... yeah, that's it. Brockhampton used to be awesome too
Idk if anyone will care but i have my recommendations: Björk, caroline polachek, fka twigs, arca, sophie, eartheater, rina sawayama, newjeans (yes i will be including kpop groups), poppy, marina, slayyyter, azealia banks, loona, charli xcx, pinkpantheress, shygirl, kate bush, hikaru utada They are all icons
I also feel like Ariana Grande is worth including in this conversation because the two main things people know her for is the drama of her personal life and her big hits you hear at Target or the mall (and now "yes, and?" which has stirred up controversy and is now a TikTok meme). I'd argue she only has two albums that are phenomenal from front to back but I feel like her deep cuts often go unnoticed by the general public because they hear her hits like Into You and Problem and thank u, next and think that's all she has to offer. It's actually insane how good some of her deep cuts are. Highly recommend "Break Your Heart Right Back," "Step On Up," "better off," "Only 1," "Safety Net," "Quit" with Cashmere Cat and also "Cadillac Song" which isn't on streaming.
Quit with Cashmere Cat is a pure mystery to me on how it went completely under the radar but still has so many views on RUclips. It’s my favourite of hers. POV and Breathin’ after that. I enjoy her biggest hits but it’s the other tracks on her albums that are just amazing. I wish she didn’t do all this relationship bullshit, she was my favourite girly pop 🥲
@@thisiskitta the stuff she engages in is unfortunate, but personally it doesn't stop me from enjoying her music. Maybe its just because I'm a recovering Kanye fan but her antics just don't phase me. Pov is amazing and so is breathin.
I’ve only listened to Yours Truly and Positions fully but those are great albums imo, YT is a memorable and strong debut album and Positions is just great front to back with maybe one or two songs I occasionally skip. Ariana has really good deep cuts that are slept on and her main fanbase isn’t a fan of her rnb but she’s heavily influenced by rnb and has the voice for it
@@niyaakbar1098 Yeah its funny to me that any time she goes in an R&B direction her fans think it sucks which is beyond me cause those are some of her best tracks. Highly recommend listening to Sweetener and Thank, U Next if that's your thing, they're not full on R&B but it's mixed in pretty nicely
Never mind that Fantano assisted in further exposing Alexis Marshall's abusive behavior by giving Kristin Hayter a chance to speak about it in one of his interviews with her, dude's a chauvinist pig for not liking an album.
Apparently, you're only misogynistic when lightly critiquing the stan armies of borderline industry plants. As much as I love Kristin's output thus far. The greater public only come for Anthony's algorithm-friendly stuff. They're gonna be the same group of people who'll call Hayter "virgin core", but claim they're arbiters of justice for women.
@@evanwright9016 I agree with you but Tate McRae is absolutely not an industry plant - she got her start here on youtube and has been grinding since she's 13 to get to where she is
I’m a huge Taylor swift fan but I kinda agree with you. When she released folklore and evermore my entire taste in music shifted. I was always someone who was more into lyrics (that’s why I love Taylor in the first place) but with those albums it became amplified. To me midnights was a setback lyrically, though it does have its moments. you’re on your own kid and midnight rain are stand outs to me personally. I think when her focus veers into having a pop hit or a #1 that’s when it gets bad. In the fandom it’s a known thing that Taylor picks the worst singles. She goes for catchy instead of lyrical to get that radio hit. So the general public that doesn’t go out of their way to listen to anything other than her singles don’t think her lyrics are anything special. And maybe that’s her fault to some extent. But I hope her new album goes back to focusing on lyrics and she leaves the pop star thing behind for a while and just focuses on being an artist.
Well she is hinting that her next album is very focused on songwriting and I hope that it's true. I do like midnights a lot but I was expecting more. Also the 3 am version of midnights is far superior than the standard one
@@nupurmishra346 yea I feel like with the whole poetry thing it should be more lyric driven than sound driven. But you never know with her. I liked the 3am tracks way more than the standard edition tracks on first listen.
@@thema1998 I personally really liked it. I think it sits on a very interesting line between having slight pop moments and then having the more lyric focused moments. She put a lot of her humor into that record that I don’t think someone that’s just a casual Taylor swift enjoyer would understand and brush it off as simple or cringe writing. Although there are two songs I think were just plain unnecessary on the record and the lyrics give me second hand embarrassment. But overall I think it shows an interesting side of her lyric and storytelling ability. The production of the album is a completely different thing though because although we get some unique moments I definitely think she needs to change it up more when it comes to production. I really don’t think she was chasing a pop hit or moment on this record though. There’s no overly repetitive pop choruses to be sung over a tik tok dance challenge. Which is why I think her younger audience isn’t vibing with this record as much because I think lyrically and production wise it’s her most scathingly grown up record.
Putting Joni Mitchell, Fiona Apple, and Brandi Carlisle on this list is like claiming you aren't racist or homophobic because you like Hendrix and Queen.
Unless the opinion being examined is "I don't like this music because a woman made it," no opinion in a vacuum is enough to decide someone's prejudices.
People aren't usually that upfront about their biases. But often people hating on, say, beyonce very aggressively can never offer up a justification besides sputtering up an "i don't know, i just don't like it."..... which would be valid if they didn't so strongly oppose everything she did. That screams bias to me. And your comment is useless out of context
@@healxo exactly i hate when people just hate on artists for no reason women or not i just don't particularly like Beyonce's songs she's a great singer but it's just not my style but some people just hate her for breathing the wrong way
Good music female and more ear 1. Rapsody 2. The Last Dinner Party 3. Phoebe Bridgers 4. Sa-roc 5. Haim 6. Sampa the great 7. joni mitchell 8. Fiona Apple 9. Charlotte Day Wilson 10. Little Simz 11. The Beaches 12. Tegan And Sara
It’s funny because this guy is saying I’m misogynist and racist for not liking Beyoncé, but I love so many of the artists that you 2 listed. Because they’re actually quality artists
People don’t talk enough about how wilfully ignorant a lot of pop stans can be just because a song is “catchy”, yeah but so is chlamydia I appreciate Fantano for speaking his mind and not being afraid to give something a negative review, I feel like a lot of mainstream outlets are afraid to say anything negative for fear of exactly this bs
Fantano is called a simp and a libtard for his good reviews on a group of artists and then he’s called a misogynist and racist for bad reviews on those same artists. It’s genuinely so funny and bizarre to see happen.
I loved Midnights personally. I dont think they're generic pop songs, I think they're great tunes. I love Mastermind, and Karma and a bunch of other songs on that album. I love that record, and I take no offense to your take on Midnights.
I just don't liek beyonce's style from a taste side of things. I recognize that she is talented and deserves her recognition. Is that an opinion I am allowed to have!?
she has multiple styles tho so I question what style do you dislike? Bc someone can say they hate Kanyes style but have only listened to Yeezus and Jesus Is King. And any Ye fan can tell you College Dropout is nothing like Yeezus, same as Renaissance is nothing like 4. maybe it takes an avid listener to hear the nuance?
Happy you made this video, a couple points: 1) I don't think it's unfair to say Taylor Swift is like Drake. She's better and more consistent than Drake, can make some genuinely great music, and produces hits just by putting her name on it. And they appeared in an Apple commercial together so for me, that seals it. 2) Does no one else find it EXTREMELY SUS that Tate McCrae went from sad girl Gen Zer to hyper sexual pop star in like...a minute? She's a legitimate example of an industry plant and everything with her feels so calculated. That being said, sure, I like a song here and there, but man...to defend her to the death is an indicator you're NPC, I'm sorry.
I dunno about industry plant yet it seems you gotta be a dreary monotone Monica contributing to teen girl depression or a stone cold hoochie to be a female music entertainer on RUclips trending.
He hit it out of the park with his comparison to Drake. She absolutely is overrated and her zealous base pushes her far more than deserved (which doesn’t mean she is bad either!)
well drake makes absolute hits by putting his name on it as well so not a completely correct comparison, for a rapper drake is HUGE. Tate Mcrae is definitely not an industry plant she has been making music for years and has been an influencer for even longer. If anything she’s even less of an influencer than someone like taylor who had rich parents buy a label
He had albums from women like Lingua Ignota, Little Simz, Spellling, Lana Del Rey, St Vincent, Arca, etc in his top tens albums of the year lists so he gives a lot of praise to women when it is due...
I think being known by other younger people in the dance social media world helped Tate McRae a lot in her singer-songwriter phase. She’s solid, I think this commercial style is flattering for her. She did notable competitions and TV gigs and presumably let go a Bayeriches Staatsballet scholarship around the time she was doing RUclips.
So with Beyoncé, I never really got the hype. I’ve listened to some of her most critically acclaimed stuff and it all has an aura of sameness. I’ll say she’s a crazy inventive performer but I just have never really felt her music, and she started a lot of musical trends that I’m not a fan of, she’s just not my cup of tea.
My favorite band of all time is Purity Ring, and Chvrches is a guilty pleasure. It's not that I'm a misogynist because I don't like the bands featured in this video. It's that radio pop is just not good, for the most part, musically, lyrically, production wise, or in any other way.
It's a thing in all areas of the media at the moment, get media attention by claiming racism or sexism if you don't get an award, or if some says they don't like your music/film/art/product. I mean, fair enough when those things are the definitive main reason but many time it just really isn't. Purity Ring are pretty cool BTW.
I largely agree; however, I think Invasion of Privacy is a pretty good album... not comparable to Illmatic, Miseducation, and so on... but definitely comparable to Astro World... an album I hella love and still play to this day... I still play tracks from both albums. All said, I still mostly agree with your assessment and fully appreciate your opinion.
I think midnights was a setback for Taylor artistically but tbh one mid albulm doesn’t take away her talent or her discography folklore evermore and 1989 are those legendary album im sure like drake taylor can make her next albulms boring and would still be the biggest thing but drake is soo inconsistent so to compare him with Taylor seems unfair and shes a great songwriter is not a limiting experience its her songwriting that sets her apart
How does not being a fan of a certain album make Fantano a sexist?? He's given positive reviews to heaps of female artist, he gave Olivia Rodrigo a positive review, he gave PinkPantheress a positive review..
Growing up I rarely liked any female vocalists. At some point I decided to go out of my way to find some female vocalist songs and albums. Here are two I found that I liked; War Garden by Cold Beat. Tiny Star by Tiny Star and The Blasting company.
Misgony is a hatred of women or a belief that women aren't equal and should not have the same rights as men. Disliking a female artist or a song that happens to be made by a woman doesn't make someone a misoganist. A similar thing has been happening with movies as well. 1:51 As someone who does like Beyonce not liking her music or thinking she's overrated doesn't mean someone is racist or sexist.
@@tylerharaf5901 Indeed. If someone dislikes an artist because their a woman that would be sexist but merely disliking an artist whose female or a song that happens to be made by one is not sexist.
I love the Flo Milli shoutout! Also suggesting Doechii as the rap IT-girl, she's super charismatic, energetic, witty, and even has a good voice for pop cuts. Reminds me of early Azealia without the controversy
Beyonce is great and so is renaissance but I hate that people think that its that revolutionary. artists in the alternative dance/electronic pop sphere have been doing this shit for years but bc shes filthy rich and mega famous she gets all the accolades for inventing music
@@jameslight4391 Well she can afford to spend ages with the best producers and musicians of any genre to make an album. True its not directly linked but 100% relevant
Tate McRae is unlistenable IMO. I'd somehow missed Better Than Revenge but on a quick listen, I actually think it's a pretty good song. TBH I don't know why I'm even here, I tend to think this guy has terrible taste in music. I should prolly unsubscribe 😅. @@imawakemymindisalive13
I love sia, Enya, the cranberries, miley Cyrus, etc. but most pop and female rap honestly tends to be 1 dimensional songs that are about how the "singer" has all the guys chasing them. Then there are talented people I don't care for like Beyoncé because it's not my cup of tea. I don't like men that make soulless music either and tbh there's more men in music that I don't like than women. Take rap for example. Since the 90s rap songs that aren't about gangbanging, partying, dr*gs, or s*x are rarer than diamonds so I don't like 99% of new hip-hop. In summation, mediocrity+empty lyrics= me not liking you.
I thought that you would venture in some more indie music, you just talked about extremely pop artists and rap artists. There are so many interesting that are not that unknown but are not extremely popular female artists like Florence Welsh, Carly Rae Jepsen, Haim and others that fly a little bit under the radar like The Staves, Alice Merton and Amy Macdonald
All big female artists get alot of misogynistic hate but not liking one of them doesnt make you misogynistic as long as it is for valid reasons beyond their gender. They are all popular and talented but you dont have to like them to notice they are talented (I am not sure if talented is the right word because its little strange and contradictory to say I dont like someones music while also saying they are talented but by talented I just meant they clearly have an ability to connect with people through music that makes people feel good hence why they are popular.)
That doesn't make any sense. Like, why don't you like them... because they're popular, because they're women or both? And, if it doesn't make you misogynistic, then what are you? Sheesh.
@@TexasChick45 I have just re read my comment its very badly worded will edit after this. I like many female artists. If you dont like all female music artists then yeah you are misogynistic but I just meant if someone says they dont like Taylor Swift or 1 female music artist it doesnt mean they are misogynistic there are plenty of valid reasons not to like individual artists for example Taylor Swift is very popular and clearly talented but all that I have heard from her apart from one or 2 songs I really just dont like they are often too repetitive over the top cringe for me although tbf I believe those are more her older big hit stuff and not all of her discography is like that I also dont like her carbon footprint and how she seems to be about her pj flights but I do like her lgbt+ open allyship and she also seems good on other progessive topics a good example of all of this is her song we need to calm down. Its not my type of music at all the video is over the top camp and cringy for me which i am not a fan of but the video and song also has progressive messaging I like and agree with it including advocating for fans to sign a petition for equality in American laws. Then I do like some Olivia Rodrigo, Billie Eillish, Dua Lipa, Lana Del Rey, Maddison Beer, Victoria
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I've never understood the Beyonce hype. She's fine, but I don't get why people put her in the GOAT debates. Maybe its a generational thing, shes literally older than my parents
She has one of the strongest pipes in the game, great dancer and produces amazing shows. The goat title enters when comparing her quality (and even longevity) to modern artists
I think it just comes down to personal tastes. I don't think I'll ever see what people like about Beyonce's music, but then it's not for me. I'm not interested in music to dance to, I don't care for vocal acrobatics and I don't find her songs relatable. I don't think that makes me racist or misogynistic though as my dislike of her music has nothing to do with the colour of her skin or her gender. I'd feel exactly the same way if it were being performed by a white man. Most modern pop music just isn't my thing. I feel exactly the same way about Justin Bieber, Ed Sheeran, Justin Timberlake and a lot of other male pop singers. Out of the modern crop of pop music, there's probably only 2 or 3 artists that I actually like (The Veronicas and Poppy are the first 2 that come to mind) and a handful more that have a song or 2 that I enjoy (Miley's Wreckingball, The Weeknd's Save Your Tears and a number of others). I also don't like Kid Rock or Nickelback or Maroon 5 or Train, artists who are (or were at one point) in a genre closer to what I'd normally listen to.
These days you're lucky as a guy that people don't claim you're sexist, even if in reality you believe in equality. I'll just take being left alone. @@SuperRat420
@@SuperRat420 proves my point. I'm a man, so you can just say that, and you did. Regardless of what I personally believe or what I do in my day-to-day life. Everyone wants to score quick culture points with cheap shots. 🤷
Two labels people use for others they don't like that have never made sense to me as negatives are "transphobe" and "misogynist" like being those things are supposed to be bad things.
this sounds incomplete, I was expecting some more names included, like billie eilish, olivia rodrigo, lorde, adele... I agree that "affirmative action" on that level doesn't really help women. If any girl got that far, 1. fantastic, and 2. she's playing in the big league already and it's ok to say if an album/a song is underwhelming
gotta be honest Latto, Sexxyred, Ice Spice and other rising female acts nowadays doesn't have Good (like everlasting) quality. Im afraid to say this but with the body part Jiggling and sensualization make em more popular even they're not really close at being a talented icon. p.s. Tate's record is pop bland, but i do feel she has like the potential of similar aura to Britney, when she gets little adjustment with her overall production. p.p.s yes Flo Milii rocks and have the potential too to be next big female rapper.
i feel like Swifties would have their entire lives changed if they just listened to any other artist ever. we could have a whole cultural revolution if we could make that happen
I really love your content and I can tell you are very thoughtful with the words you say, but your takes on Taylor are really hard to digest. When will the world make peace with the fact that you can appreciate your indie records and your underground artists and still being able of recognizing the talent of a mainstream artist. And btw, maybe you didn’t mean to, but comparing Taylor with drake… boy… judging from your videos and the way I’ve seen you talk about music, I expected more from you… anyways, if she didn’t receive the attention she gets nowadays, she would arguably be considered as the indie darling of all pretentious music listeners (not saying you are one, really love your videos) and she would never be tested or doubted the way she is now. I’ll keep watching your videos and just skip them whenever I see a picture of her on the cover or whenever I hear you mention her. Thanks for the work you put in making this ❤️
I agree on your commentary about being able to appreciate mainstream pop and independent & ignored smaller artists but Taylor Swift is honestly immensely overrated lol I think he did a pretty good job at showing how you can appreciate it all, he gave plenty of examples so to me this feels simply like a Tswift fanatic comment 🤷🏻♀️
That Taylor and Drake comparison was pitch perfect. It's exactly how I feel about both of them - very, very talented people but kinda stuck in terms of musical evolution. For All the Dogs had some really good songs but was a boring album imo. Taylor's upcoming album feels very different to her last ten era-driven ones, so I'm certainly excited to see that musical evolution. I hope she'll be able to truly work to her potential. Also, she has a collaboration with Post Malone coming up? I've heard them compliment each other forever but I'm hesitant to see how they will work together on a song. Taylor's past collabs haven't exactly been amazing (excluding Kendrick)
In my opinion, I love female artists in the old days like in the 70's to 90's such as Madonna, Blondie, etc but new singers I find are just annoying because their fanbases are a bit more radical. You can't say anything negative about Taylor Swift without having an army of swifities marching at your door with pitchforks and torches calling you mysogynistic.
A lot of the people you have mentioned are rubsh. You should listen to Carole King, Beth Gibbons, Joni Mitchell, Roisin Murphy, ABBA, Carpenters, Elastica, Ladytron, Little Dragon, PJ Harvey, Vashti Bunyan, Jane Weaver, Catatonia.
Good music female and more ear 1. Rapsody 2. The Last Dinner Party 3. Phoebe Bridgers 4. Sa-roc 5. Haim 6. Sampa the great 7. joni mitchell 8. Fiona Apple 9. Charlotte Day Wilson 10. Little Simz 11. The Beaches 12. Tegan And Sara
5:36 Massive thanks for shouting out Madison Cunningham, she deserves more widespread praise and attention, Revealer is one of the decade's best thus far
Honestly, people will just find any reason to hate Fantano besides just saying they don’t like his reviews. It’s fine to not like the man, but please can we stop trying to paint him as this monster of a person?
i dunno who tate mccray is, but i'm a woman and I know that fantano is not sexist. It's actually not sexist to notice when a woman makes bad music vs when one has good music. Sorry ladies with bad taste in music lol Ask Fantano what he thinks of Chelsea Wolf, Zola Jesus, or Angel Olsen and just try calling him a misogynist afterward. PS i like megan the stallion and yes i am a nympho so that's partly why 💖💖💖
I wholeheartedly disagree about Midnights being “regressive” for Taylor as an artist. I think she’d making really good quality pop music and there is a place for that. Not everyone wants to listen to “Folklore” and “Evermore” type albums from her. She can make them and that’s great to show she has more serious artistry but I appreciate her pop music and think she’s one of the better artists doing it right now.
@7:16-7:34 You mailed it w/ the Megan Thee Stallion hate.These are the exact reasons why Megan gets on much hate online. It has absolutely nothing to do with the music whatsoever. Although, I do think that the people that hate her are just weirdo Barbz & bots claiming to be fans of that loser she sent to prison. I really don't think that dude has fans at all.
Female artists that I think are underrated and don't really get mentioned enough are Benee, beabadoobee and NIKI. Benee's debut album 'Hey u x" is really good, good range of features and has that alt vibe to it. Benee has a wonderful voice. beabadoobee is hella talented both vocally and musically. Beatopia is a pretty great record and her first album is pretty decent too! NIKI is someone who I think is often overlooked, she once again has a great singing voice and is also very talented with instruments. Nicole had some fantastic and very sad moments on it, the lyricism was really good. I liked the experimental vibes of Moonchild and the R&B sounds she has explored in the past Definitely worth listening to these artists
Eh, with Megan and Cardi, it's at least partly that they are megastars from biting the style of other women like Nicky, Azealia Banks, and Cupcakke hard, and having it brushed off because they behave better...basically Cardi B is the Macklemore of raunch rap, tho in spite of it, WAP still goes hard
I always think this about woman specifically in rock music. I think they get a lot of hate but are really good...the band Haim comes to mind. I honestly don't get it.
No, Tate McRae's music just sucks. RUclips was shoving her single "Kisses to My Exes" or whatever down everyone's throats via Shorts and it's just a really lame song. The same old song about someone's exes, it's just not good. I'm sure she has talent, but it's not really showing to me right now.
No the reason people don’t like Megan the Stalian is because she’s one note she always sounds confident which on paper is good but when that’s all you have it’s boring even when she is saying depressing shit it’s still super confident which on paper is good but with the rest it’s just boring
he didn't say dislike tho...he said someone who can't acknowledge that beyonce is the best performer of our time has to have some racist and/or sexist undertones...not liking someone is different from not acknowledging fact
@@kahindo. Why does anyone have to acknowledge something that's an opinion that gets treated as fact? It's not too crazy to think that someone would be turned off of an artist because everyone around them is acting like they NEED to have an opinion on them, and said opinion NEEDS to be positive. It's just making more issues. I don't care about Beyonce. it's not that deep. I don't need to spend my time praising people I don't have any interest in to avoid being called a bigot. I'd rather just enjoy what I enjoy. That's the kind of nonsense that pulls the fun out of everything.
@@andyz6306opinion would be me saying she's the best singer ever...but fact is...no one in this current day....is putting on a show better than Beyonce...whether she makes good music to you or not...no one puts more effort into performances like she does...case in point...coachella.
As a woman, you got my like on this vid the moment you said “we don’t need to prop up mediocre artists just bc they’re women” (rough paraphrase bc I can’t remember things I watched minutes ago alas) because YES THANK YOU. Women don’t deserve accolades just for being women doing things! Especially when there are so many women deserving of accolades that get no attention.
Anyway, I may not *always* agree with your musical takes, but I always appreciate your perspective, and especially so in this video.
Here's the truth:
Some good musicians put out bad works sometimes
Some mediocre musicians put out stellar work at times
And even worse than all that, there are great music from a technical standpoint that just don't connect with you in particular.
And all of those are okay. Just vibe and move on. This whole ESPNisation of music is good for no one.
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I honestly don't care if a musician is "technically good." If I connect with their music, that's all I need.
@@jefferyjones8399 EXACTLYY
People are probably gonna come after me but I haven't connected with anything Jacob Collier has put out yet. He's a good musician but it sounds so saturated man. It's always harmony here, harmony there. I like his collab with Lizzy McAlpine and John Mayer though
So when Sexxy Red gets an 8, he doesn't know music but when Tate gets a negative review he's a misogynistic? It's like he can't win
I bet he’s tired of being called a racist simply because he’s doesn’t like an album
Came here to say exactly this.
I think Fantano is an idiot but everyone calls him out for the wrong things
@@sleepdealer10 Why is he an idiot? Because he has different opinions than you?
@@sleepdealer10fantano isn't an idiot
Yknow dude I actually appreciate this format and insight, I’ve been a channel follower for a few years for your documentary style videos but this was just as entertaining
The Taylor and Drake comparison is spot on
I’ve been saying this for YEARS and been getting called insane for it. Hearing it in this video was so validating lmao
@@buttermoth5861 Both talented artists for sure, but given their influence and presence in the industry you feel like they could be doing a bit more with their music these days.
@@4danzy this was exactly my point
Like when you have effectively infinite resources to do whatever you want with your art and have a guaranteed listener base and you DON’T do anything interesting or try to push your artistry to new heights it’s more upsetting than if someone with no talent was trying to push the envelope
Drake and Taylor are both guilty of this with the house experimentation on honestly nevermind and the folk songs on evermore/folklore both being underwhelming and bland for the genres. As a musician especially it just upsets me to witness
(Sorry for the rant I have very strong feelings on these 2 artists specifically)
@@buttermoth5861 nah don’t apologise bro you have a really valid argument on these two fr
It’s so fucking accurate. They both have extremely large fan bases that excuse any of their behavior and will stream the fuck outta their music regardless of what it sounds like
I enjoyed Tate McCray's 'Greedy' track, but let's be real, no one will ever master the sexy bubblegum dance pop quite like Britney Spears did. Her greatest albums are practically pop bibles. It's wonderful to see critics recognizing her more in retrospect
Fully agree but I do see critics doing the same they did to Britney to current artists in the future. Right now they say their music is mediocre and that they can't sing or perform but later they'll say that their music was revolutionary and that they wish music at that time was more like theirs.
she didnt wrote her music. and her voice was fake, all auto tune
@@johansjournalnot everything was full auto tune by Britney, and it was never her fault bc her record label would never let her take full control of her work. If she did, her music would of been a lot different in a different universe
@@christiansoto1367 she wrote her music on her chaotic ep, it's awuful. not even her fans like it
@@johansjournal you don’t know how to spell awful?
i honestly agree with everything you said. i'll just add that even when some female artists don't make the greatest music they still put on a show a thousand times better than most male artists out there. i actually can't name a lot of great current male performers besides Bruno Mars, BTS, Tyler the Creator, and.... yeah, that's it. Brockhampton used to be awesome too
Just look outside your pop sphere, both binary genders and LGBTQ community do put amazing shows. Example turnstile, 100 gecs and St Vincent.
I’d also add Usher but he comes from an era where male performers still had to put on a good show, he’s insanely talented on stage/live
Idk if anyone will care but i have my recommendations:
Björk, caroline polachek, fka twigs, arca, sophie, eartheater, rina sawayama, newjeans (yes i will be including kpop groups), poppy, marina, slayyyter, azealia banks, loona, charli xcx, pinkpantheress, shygirl, kate bush, hikaru utada
They are all icons
how does it feel to be 100% right? that's the cuntiest set of words you could've placed next to each other
no way my comment about this list being "cunty" was deleted. LMAO i swear i meant it as a compliment, i just talk gay 😭😭
@ch3rrybmbb sneaks?
@ch3rrybmbb oh I get it thank you ❤❤
Rina Sawayama and Poppy 💖💖💖
I also feel like Ariana Grande is worth including in this conversation because the two main things people know her for is the drama of her personal life and her big hits you hear at Target or the mall (and now "yes, and?" which has stirred up controversy and is now a TikTok meme). I'd argue she only has two albums that are phenomenal from front to back but I feel like her deep cuts often go unnoticed by the general public because they hear her hits like Into You and Problem and thank u, next and think that's all she has to offer. It's actually insane how good some of her deep cuts are. Highly recommend "Break Your Heart Right Back," "Step On Up," "better off," "Only 1," "Safety Net," "Quit" with Cashmere Cat and also "Cadillac Song" which isn't on streaming.
Quit with Cashmere Cat is a pure mystery to me on how it went completely under the radar but still has so many views on RUclips. It’s my favourite of hers. POV and Breathin’ after that. I enjoy her biggest hits but it’s the other tracks on her albums that are just amazing. I wish she didn’t do all this relationship bullshit, she was my favourite girly pop 🥲
@@thisiskitta the stuff she engages in is unfortunate, but personally it doesn't stop me from enjoying her music. Maybe its just because I'm a recovering Kanye fan but her antics just don't phase me.
Pov is amazing and so is breathin.
@@sleepdealer10 yeah to be fair it’s not on Kanye’s level so I can still enjoy her music but this new release had me rolling my eyes, you know
I’ve only listened to Yours Truly and Positions fully but those are great albums imo, YT is a memorable and strong debut album and Positions is just great front to back with maybe one or two songs I occasionally skip. Ariana has really good deep cuts that are slept on and her main fanbase isn’t a fan of her rnb but she’s heavily influenced by rnb and has the voice for it
@@niyaakbar1098 Yeah its funny to me that any time she goes in an R&B direction her fans think it sucks which is beyond me cause those are some of her best tracks. Highly recommend listening to Sweetener and Thank, U Next if that's your thing, they're not full on R&B but it's mixed in pretty nicely
Never mind that Fantano assisted in further exposing Alexis Marshall's abusive behavior by giving Kristin Hayter a chance to speak about it in one of his interviews with her, dude's a chauvinist pig for not liking an album.
Apparently, you're only misogynistic when lightly critiquing the stan armies of borderline industry plants. As much as I love Kristin's output thus far. The greater public only come for Anthony's algorithm-friendly stuff. They're gonna be the same group of people who'll call Hayter "virgin core", but claim they're arbiters of justice for women.
This.
@@evanwright9016 I agree with you but Tate McRae is absolutely not an industry plant - she got her start here on youtube and has been grinding since she's 13 to get to where she is
I’m a huge Taylor swift fan but I kinda agree with you. When she released folklore and evermore my entire taste in music shifted. I was always someone who was more into lyrics (that’s why I love Taylor in the first place) but with those albums it became amplified. To me midnights was a setback lyrically, though it does have its moments. you’re on your own kid and midnight rain are stand outs to me personally. I think when her focus veers into having a pop hit or a #1 that’s when it gets bad. In the fandom it’s a known thing that Taylor picks the worst singles. She goes for catchy instead of lyrical to get that radio hit. So the general public that doesn’t go out of their way to listen to anything other than her singles don’t think her lyrics are anything special. And maybe that’s her fault to some extent. But I hope her new album goes back to focusing on lyrics and she leaves the pop star thing behind for a while and just focuses on being an artist.
Well she is hinting that her next album is very focused on songwriting and I hope that it's true. I do like midnights a lot but I was expecting more. Also the 3 am version of midnights is far superior than the standard one
@@nupurmishra346 yea I feel like with the whole poetry thing it should be more lyric driven than sound driven. But you never know with her. I liked the 3am tracks way more than the standard edition tracks on first listen.
@@K.Angelina What did you think about The Tortured Poets Department? 🤔
@@thema1998 I personally really liked it. I think it sits on a very interesting line between having slight pop moments and then having the more lyric focused moments. She put a lot of her humor into that record that I don’t think someone that’s just a casual Taylor swift enjoyer would understand and brush it off as simple or cringe writing. Although there are two songs I think were just plain unnecessary on the record and the lyrics give me second hand embarrassment. But overall I think it shows an interesting side of her lyric and storytelling ability. The production of the album is a completely different thing though because although we get some unique moments I definitely think she needs to change it up more when it comes to production. I really don’t think she was chasing a pop hit or moment on this record though. There’s no overly repetitive pop choruses to be sung over a tik tok dance challenge. Which is why I think her younger audience isn’t vibing with this record as much because I think lyrically and production wise it’s her most scathingly grown up record.
All her songs are the same
Insert 100th ex boyfriends to writ about
homerable mentions female artists good music
1. Florence Welch
2. Sampa the great
3. joni mitchell
4. Brandi Carlile
5. Fiona Apple
6. Julien Baker
7. Lucy Dacus
don't forget phoebe bridgers, ethel cain, and caroline polachek!! :))
Putting Joni Mitchell, Fiona Apple, and Brandi Carlisle on this list is like claiming you aren't racist or homophobic because you like Hendrix and Queen.
Unless the opinion being examined is "I don't like this music because a woman made it," no opinion in a vacuum is enough to decide someone's prejudices.
People aren't usually that upfront about their biases. But often people hating on, say, beyonce very aggressively can never offer up a justification besides sputtering up an "i don't know, i just don't like it."..... which would be valid if they didn't so strongly oppose everything she did. That screams bias to me. And your comment is useless out of context
@@healxo exactly i hate when people just hate on artists for no reason women or not i just don't particularly like Beyonce's songs she's a great singer but it's just not my style but some people just hate her for breathing the wrong way
More ears to Indigo de Souza, Clairo, Marika Hackman, Tinashe, Caroline polacheck, Weyes Blood, japanese breakfast, snail mail, jorja smith, Kehlani , jessie Ware, Margo price, Laura Marling, angel Olsen, fka twigs, Frankie cosmos, Julia Holter ❤❤❤
Good music female and more ear
1. Rapsody
2. The Last Dinner Party
3. Phoebe Bridgers
4. Sa-roc
5. Haim
6. Sampa the great
7. joni mitchell
8. Fiona Apple
9. Charlotte Day Wilson
10. Little Simz
11. The Beaches
12. Tegan And Sara
It’s funny because this guy is saying I’m misogynist and racist for not liking Beyoncé, but I love so many of the artists that you 2 listed. Because they’re actually quality artists
This is the crux of my issue… there are way more talented women out there that I choose champion instead of the slop that’s in vogue
People don’t talk enough about how wilfully ignorant a lot of pop stans can be just because a song is “catchy”, yeah but so is chlamydia
I appreciate Fantano for speaking his mind and not being afraid to give something a negative review, I feel like a lot of mainstream outlets are afraid to say anything negative for fear of exactly this bs
“yeah, but so is Chlamydia” what a bar
Fantano is called a simp and a libtard for his good reviews on a group of artists and then he’s called a misogynist and racist for bad reviews on those same artists. It’s genuinely so funny and bizarre to see happen.
I loved Midnights personally. I dont think they're generic pop songs, I think they're great tunes. I love Mastermind, and Karma and a bunch of other songs on that album. I love that record, and I take no offense to your take on Midnights.
That green light is driving me crazy 😵💫😵💫😵💫
"She's one of the best in the genre, so if you hate her you're [buzzword]"
What if I just don't like the genre?
I just don't liek beyonce's style from a taste side of things. I recognize that she is talented and deserves her recognition. Is that an opinion I am allowed to have!?
Of course! No one should be judged by their opinions!
she has multiple styles tho so I question what style do you dislike? Bc someone can say they hate Kanyes style but have only listened to Yeezus and Jesus Is King. And any Ye fan can tell you College Dropout is nothing like Yeezus, same as Renaissance is nothing like 4. maybe it takes an avid listener to hear the nuance?
why wouldnt you be "allowed" to have that opinion?
No because according to this you probably hate women AND black people. Wtf
You know you are
Happy you made this video, a couple points:
1) I don't think it's unfair to say Taylor Swift is like Drake. She's better and more consistent than Drake, can make some genuinely great music, and produces hits just by putting her name on it. And they appeared in an Apple commercial together so for me, that seals it.
2) Does no one else find it EXTREMELY SUS that Tate McCrae went from sad girl Gen Zer to hyper sexual pop star in like...a minute? She's a legitimate example of an industry plant and everything with her feels so calculated. That being said, sure, I like a song here and there, but man...to defend her to the death is an indicator you're NPC, I'm sorry.
please do elaborate on what "industry plant" means to you
I dunno about industry plant yet it seems you gotta be a dreary monotone Monica contributing to teen girl depression or a stone cold hoochie to be a female music entertainer on RUclips trending.
No but Tate McRae is good I promise :(
He hit it out of the park with his comparison to Drake. She absolutely is overrated and her zealous base pushes her far more than deserved (which doesn’t mean she is bad either!)
well drake makes absolute hits by putting his name on it as well so not a completely correct comparison, for a rapper drake is HUGE.
Tate Mcrae is definitely not an industry plant she has been making music for years and has been an influencer for even longer. If anything she’s even less of an influencer than someone like taylor who had rich parents buy a label
He had albums from women like Lingua Ignota, Little Simz, Spellling, Lana Del Rey, St Vincent, Arca, etc in his top tens albums of the year lists so he gives a lot of praise to women when it is due...
If you think Fantano is misogynistic then you are telling on yourself that you know nothing about him
Its so funny to see that people taking the "if you dont like Beyonce you're racist" joke too seriously lmao
Btw you made some really great points
I think being known by other younger people in the dance social media world helped Tate McRae a lot in her singer-songwriter phase. She’s solid, I think this commercial style is flattering for her. She did notable competitions and TV gigs and presumably let go a Bayeriches Staatsballet scholarship around the time she was doing RUclips.
So with Beyoncé, I never really got the hype. I’ve listened to some of her most critically acclaimed stuff and it all has an aura of sameness. I’ll say she’s a crazy inventive performer but I just have never really felt her music, and she started a lot of musical trends that I’m not a fan of, she’s just not my cup of tea.
My favorite band of all time is Purity Ring, and Chvrches is a guilty pleasure. It's not that I'm a misogynist because I don't like the bands featured in this video. It's that radio pop is just not good, for the most part, musically, lyrically, production wise, or in any other way.
It's a thing in all areas of the media at the moment, get media attention by claiming racism or sexism if you don't get an award, or if some says they don't like your music/film/art/product. I mean, fair enough when those things are the definitive main reason but many time it just really isn't.
Purity Ring are pretty cool BTW.
I largely agree; however, I think Invasion of Privacy is a pretty good album... not comparable to Illmatic, Miseducation, and so on... but definitely comparable to Astro World... an album I hella love and still play to this day... I still play tracks from both albums. All said, I still mostly agree with your assessment and fully appreciate your opinion.
I think midnights was a setback for Taylor artistically but tbh one mid albulm doesn’t take away her talent or her discography folklore evermore and 1989 are those legendary album im sure like drake taylor can make her next albulms boring and would still be the biggest thing but drake is soo inconsistent so to compare him with Taylor seems unfair and shes a great songwriter is not a limiting experience its her songwriting that sets her apart
almost every bad review of a Tegan and Sara album reads like an “I don’t hate women in music, but” comment
How does not being a fan of a certain album make Fantano a sexist?? He's given positive reviews to heaps of female artist, he gave Olivia Rodrigo a positive review, he gave PinkPantheress a positive review..
Great video, man. Agree with a lot of your breakdowns here. Gonna check out some of these artists.
Growing up I rarely liked any female vocalists. At some point I decided to go out of my way to find some female vocalist songs and albums.
Here are two I found that I liked;
War Garden by Cold Beat.
Tiny Star by Tiny Star and The Blasting company.
This vid was super cool!! Loved the format
PLEASE could you tell me where did you get that beanie? Or what brand is it? I've been looking for that red smiley logo for SO LONG
Clout Collection Smiley Face Embroidered Beanie
Misgony is a hatred of women or a belief that women aren't equal and should not have the same rights as men. Disliking a female artist or a song that happens to be made by a woman doesn't make someone a misoganist. A similar thing has been happening with movies as well.
1:51 As someone who does like Beyonce not liking her music or thinking she's overrated doesn't mean someone is racist or sexist.
Yeah, I ain’t here to support a billionaire no matter how good the music is.
@@milk_bath you being on RUclips is supporting a few billionaires. people like you are so annoying bc its all just talk
I think it all depends on the context of why they don’t like her or said female artist if that makes sense
While you are correct, there are a lot of men that discredit all music made by women just for being a woman making music
@@tylerharaf5901 Indeed. If someone dislikes an artist because their a woman that would be sexist but merely disliking an artist whose female or a song that happens to be made by one is not sexist.
I'm not a sexist! I just think every female fronted band reminds me of Paramore!
I love the Flo Milli shoutout! Also suggesting Doechii as the rap IT-girl, she's super charismatic, energetic, witty, and even has a good voice for pop cuts. Reminds me of early Azealia without the controversy
Beyonce is great and so is renaissance but I hate that people think that its that revolutionary. artists in the alternative dance/electronic pop sphere have been doing this shit for years but bc shes filthy rich and mega famous she gets all the accolades for inventing music
I don't think her being rich has anything to do with it but her fame yes
That's.. the whole reason people are impressed. Taking a risk, genrebending when she has everything to lose and delivering hard.
@@jameslight4391 Well she can afford to spend ages with the best producers and musicians of any genre to make an album. True its not directly linked but 100% relevant
@@AugustRx Safe opinion, my view is that shes gentrifying to a slight degree
@@AugustRx genrebending by doing what exactly?
Agreed. Like people are so damn misogynistic. This was a great video
Not liking mid Old Navy pop music = misogyny
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lmao i’m a woman who doesn’t like tate mcrae music… and loves better than revenge by taylor swift…
Tate McRae is unlistenable IMO. I'd somehow missed Better Than Revenge but on a quick listen, I actually think it's a pretty good song. TBH I don't know why I'm even here, I tend to think this guy has terrible taste in music. I should prolly unsubscribe 😅. @@imawakemymindisalive13
@@imawakemymindisalive13 THE STORY STARTS WHEN IT WAS HOT AND IT WAS SUMMER AND
Personally both
Respect the honesty
Amazing how many people comment on the thumbnail and miss what's said in the first 10 seconds of the video...
Spellling and Eartheater should have been mentioned here 🤷♀️
Why not both? Tho tbf if I think somethings bad I’ll criticize it no matter who made it male or female
I love sia, Enya, the cranberries, miley Cyrus, etc. but most pop and female rap honestly tends to be 1 dimensional songs that are about how the "singer" has all the guys chasing them. Then there are talented people I don't care for like Beyoncé because it's not my cup of tea. I don't like men that make soulless music either and tbh there's more men in music that I don't like than women. Take rap for example. Since the 90s rap songs that aren't about gangbanging, partying, dr*gs, or s*x are rarer than diamonds so I don't like 99% of new hip-hop. In summation, mediocrity+empty lyrics= me not liking you.
I'm called a pick me because I think a lot of sad girl lesbian indie sucks. I'm a gay girl lol I can't win.
Got called sexist because I don’t like Taylor Swift but I rather Listen to Debbie Harry or Joan Jett her fan base doesn’t help this case
I thought that you would venture in some more indie music, you just talked about extremely pop artists and rap artists. There are so many interesting that are not that unknown but are not extremely popular female artists like Florence Welsh, Carly Rae Jepsen, Haim and others that fly a little bit under the radar like The Staves, Alice Merton and Amy Macdonald
All big female artists get alot of misogynistic hate but not liking one of them doesnt make you misogynistic as long as it is for valid reasons beyond their gender. They are all popular and talented but you dont have to like them to notice they are talented (I am not sure if talented is the right word because its little strange and contradictory to say I dont like someones music while also saying they are talented but by talented I just meant they clearly have an ability to connect with people through music that makes people feel good hence why they are popular.)
That doesn't make any sense. Like, why don't you like them... because they're popular, because they're women or both? And, if it doesn't make you misogynistic, then what are you? Sheesh.
@@TexasChick45 I have just re read my comment its very badly worded will edit after this. I like many female artists. If you dont like all female music artists then yeah you are misogynistic but I just meant if someone says they dont like Taylor Swift or 1 female music artist it doesnt mean they are misogynistic there are plenty of valid reasons not to like individual artists for example Taylor Swift is very popular and clearly talented but all that I have heard from her apart from one or 2 songs I really just dont like they are often too repetitive over the top cringe for me although tbf I believe those are more her older big hit stuff and not all of her discography is like that I also dont like her carbon footprint and how she seems to be about her pj flights but I do like her lgbt+ open allyship and she also seems good on other progessive topics a good example of all of this is her song we need to calm down. Its not my type of music at all the video is over the top camp and cringy for me which i am not a fan of but the video and song also has progressive messaging I like and agree with it including advocating for fans to sign a petition for equality in American laws. Then I do like some Olivia Rodrigo, Billie Eillish, Dua Lipa, Lana Del Rey, Maddison Beer, Victoria
Jensen McRae is amazing! I love the performance of “Adams” Rib you mentioned! 🔥
These were interesting takes and I appreciate a good unbiased opinion. Great video
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I've never understood the Beyonce hype. She's fine, but I don't get why people put her in the GOAT debates. Maybe its a generational thing, shes literally older than my parents
She has one of the strongest pipes in the game, great dancer and produces amazing shows. The goat title enters when comparing her quality (and even longevity) to modern artists
Go listen to Lemonade
I think it just comes down to personal tastes. I don't think I'll ever see what people like about Beyonce's music, but then it's not for me. I'm not interested in music to dance to, I don't care for vocal acrobatics and I don't find her songs relatable. I don't think that makes me racist or misogynistic though as my dislike of her music has nothing to do with the colour of her skin or her gender. I'd feel exactly the same way if it were being performed by a white man. Most modern pop music just isn't my thing. I feel exactly the same way about Justin Bieber, Ed Sheeran, Justin Timberlake and a lot of other male pop singers. Out of the modern crop of pop music, there's probably only 2 or 3 artists that I actually like (The Veronicas and Poppy are the first 2 that come to mind) and a handful more that have a song or 2 that I enjoy (Miley's Wreckingball, The Weeknd's Save Your Tears and a number of others). I also don't like Kid Rock or Nickelback or Maroon 5 or Train, artists who are (or were at one point) in a genre closer to what I'd normally listen to.
he gave two albums made by women, one of which is literally a top-tier female rage album, 10s and they think he hates women
I wished you mentioned more lesser known female singer-songwriters/musicians.
Like Yoko Shimomura
Not a fan of Cardi or Megan tbh, actually I'd go as far as saying I can't stand them. Little Simz on the other hand; absolutely phenomenal
YESS! her I Might Be An Introvert album is soo good
You "can't stand them"? You're obviously the weirdo this video was made for.🙄
You "can't stand them"? 🙄You're definitely who this video was intended for.
@@TexasChick45 Nah
The taylor swift , drake comparison was perfect
Fantano said Kanye’s album was unreviewable. Kanye’s album is number one. They always give good albums bad reviews.
My favorite Beyoncé song is party featuring Andre 3000
07:25 I’m very sexually libertarian yet hip hop hoochification is played out. No other genre of music has 99% of the women hyper sexualized.
Fantano has been against sexism, homophobia and racism his entire career, and this is how they pay him back. Embarrassing
I think it's hilarious you think people need to be paid back for basic human decency. You don't deserve a medal for not being sexist, that's standard
These days you're lucky as a guy that people don't claim you're sexist, even if in reality you believe in equality. I'll just take being left alone. @@SuperRat420
@@Xanaduum I doubt you're sincere in your so called equal beliefs bud.
@@SuperRat420 proves my point. I'm a man, so you can just say that, and you did. Regardless of what I personally believe or what I do in my day-to-day life. Everyone wants to score quick culture points with cheap shots. 🤷
@@Xanaduum no I'm saying because of your attitude, not your sex. Live in reality please
Two labels people use for others they don't like that have never made sense to me as negatives are "transphobe" and "misogynist" like being those things are supposed to be bad things.
I'm not a misogynist, I'm a gender differentiated misanthrope.
hating women for being women (misogyny) is a bad thing… do you genuinely not believe that’s bad?
@@winter_3407
I *know* it isn't.
I love Taylor Swift but I feel like 1989 and Midnights shouldn’t won as there were better albums such as To Pimp A Butterfly, SOS, GUTS & More
this sounds incomplete, I was expecting some more names included, like billie eilish, olivia rodrigo, lorde, adele...
I agree that "affirmative action" on that level doesn't really help women. If any girl got that far, 1. fantastic, and 2. she's playing in the big league already and it's ok to say if an album/a song is underwhelming
gotta be honest Latto, Sexxyred, Ice Spice and other rising female acts nowadays doesn't have Good (like everlasting) quality.
Im afraid to say this but with the body part Jiggling and sensualization make em more popular even they're not really close at being a talented icon.
p.s. Tate's record is pop bland, but i do feel she has like the potential of similar aura to Britney, when she gets little adjustment with her overall production.
p.p.s yes Flo Milii rocks and have the potential too to be next big female rapper.
You managed to vocalize my chaotic thoughts about Swift and Drake perfectly. Thank you!
i feel like Swifties would have their entire lives changed if they just listened to any other artist ever. we could have a whole cultural revolution if we could make that happen
as a swiftie i can confirm. my life changed when i expanded my listening library
real
I listen to death metal and Taylor swift it’s great
thinking we only listen to t.s is wild
I appreciate the jensen mcrae shout out I'm so obsessed with her she was my 3rd most played last year
I really love your content and I can tell you are very thoughtful with the words you say, but your takes on Taylor are really hard to digest. When will the world make peace with the fact that you can appreciate your indie records and your underground artists and still being able of recognizing the talent of a mainstream artist. And btw, maybe you didn’t mean to, but comparing Taylor with drake… boy… judging from your videos and the way I’ve seen you talk about music, I expected more from you… anyways, if she didn’t receive the attention she gets nowadays, she would arguably be considered as the indie darling of all pretentious music listeners (not saying you are one, really love your videos) and she would never be tested or doubted the way she is now. I’ll keep watching your videos and just skip them whenever I see a picture of her on the cover or whenever I hear you mention her. Thanks for the work you put in making this ❤️
I agree on your commentary about being able to appreciate mainstream pop and independent & ignored smaller artists but Taylor Swift is honestly immensely overrated lol I think he did a pretty good job at showing how you can appreciate it all, he gave plenty of examples so to me this feels simply like a Tswift fanatic comment 🤷🏻♀️
That Taylor and Drake comparison was pitch perfect. It's exactly how I feel about both of them - very, very talented people but kinda stuck in terms of musical evolution. For All the Dogs had some really good songs but was a boring album imo. Taylor's upcoming album feels very different to her last ten era-driven ones, so I'm certainly excited to see that musical evolution. I hope she'll be able to truly work to her potential. Also, she has a collaboration with Post Malone coming up? I've heard them compliment each other forever but I'm hesitant to see how they will work together on a song. Taylor's past collabs haven't exactly been amazing (excluding Kendrick)
Also how could you go through this and not mention Little Simz at all
Rapsody and sa-roc st vincent.
British
In my opinion, I love female artists in the old days like in the 70's to 90's such as Madonna, Blondie, etc but new singers I find are just annoying because their fanbases are a bit more radical. You can't say anything negative about Taylor Swift without having an army of swifities marching at your door with pitchforks and torches calling you mysogynistic.
He’s not mysogonistic. People are dumb and get in their feelings over their Standom.
A lot of the people you have mentioned are rubsh.
You should listen to Carole King, Beth Gibbons, Joni Mitchell, Roisin Murphy, ABBA, Carpenters, Elastica, Ladytron, Little Dragon, PJ Harvey, Vashti Bunyan, Jane Weaver, Catatonia.
Good music female and more ear
1. Rapsody
2. The Last Dinner Party
3. Phoebe Bridgers
4. Sa-roc
5. Haim
6. Sampa the great
7. joni mitchell
8. Fiona Apple
9. Charlotte Day Wilson
10. Little Simz
11. The Beaches
12. Tegan And Sara
This is the first time I've heard of Tate McRae. I am a bonafide Swiftie so I am probably biased. She's one of my favorite songwriters.
5:36 Massive thanks for shouting out Madison Cunningham, she deserves more widespread praise and attention, Revealer is one of the decade's best thus far
Honestly, people will just find any reason to hate Fantano besides just saying they don’t like his reviews. It’s fine to not like the man, but please can we stop trying to paint him as this monster of a person?
Thank you for the recommendation Jensen is great! I never heard of he until this video.
i dunno who tate mccray is, but i'm a woman and I know that fantano is not sexist. It's actually not sexist to notice when a woman makes bad music vs when one has good music. Sorry ladies with bad taste in music lol
Ask Fantano what he thinks of Chelsea Wolf, Zola Jesus, or Angel Olsen and just try calling him a misogynist afterward.
PS i like megan the stallion and yes i am a nympho so that's partly why
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I wholeheartedly disagree about Midnights being “regressive” for Taylor as an artist. I think she’d making really good quality pop music and there is a place for that. Not everyone wants to listen to “Folklore” and “Evermore” type albums from her. She can make them and that’s great to show she has more serious artistry but I appreciate her pop music and think she’s one of the better artists doing it right now.
@7:16-7:34 You mailed it w/ the Megan Thee Stallion hate.These are the exact reasons why Megan gets on much hate online. It has absolutely nothing to do with the music whatsoever. Although, I do think that the people that hate her are just weirdo Barbz & bots claiming to be fans of that loser she sent to prison. I really don't think that dude has fans at all.
I can say with a resounding yes to both
you're my favorite white guy music youtuber
Glad you shouted out Madison Cunningham. She’s great and deserves a bigger audience!
Female artists that I think are underrated and don't really get mentioned enough are Benee, beabadoobee and NIKI.
Benee's debut album 'Hey u x" is really good, good range of features and has that alt vibe to it. Benee has a wonderful voice.
beabadoobee is hella talented both vocally and musically. Beatopia is a pretty great record and her first album is pretty decent too!
NIKI is someone who I think is often overlooked, she once again has a great singing voice and is also very talented with instruments. Nicole had some fantastic and very sad moments on it, the lyricism was really good. I liked the experimental vibes of Moonchild and the R&B sounds she has explored in the past
Definitely worth listening to these artists
Eh, with Megan and Cardi, it's at least partly that they are megastars from biting the style of other women like Nicky, Azealia Banks, and Cupcakke hard, and having it brushed off because they behave better...basically Cardi B is the Macklemore of raunch rap, tho in spite of it, WAP still goes hard
this is how I found out Tate McRae exists? smh
focusrite scarlett input light on in the background lol
That Madison Cunningham namedrop letsss gooooooo
What do you think about the Renaissance album?
I like the addition of a facecam 👍
I always think this about woman specifically in rock music. I think they get a lot of hate but are really good...the band Haim comes to mind. I honestly don't get it.
No, Tate McRae's music just sucks. RUclips was shoving her single "Kisses to My Exes" or whatever down everyone's throats via Shorts and it's just a really lame song. The same old song about someone's exes, it's just not good. I'm sure she has talent, but it's not really showing to me right now.
Oh the comments are going to be spicy for this one
I don't care for anything past 1995.
No the reason people don’t like Megan the Stalian is because she’s one note she always sounds confident which on paper is good but when that’s all you have it’s boring even when she is saying depressing shit it’s still super confident which on paper is good but with the rest it’s just boring
Blanketing every man who dislikes Beyoncé as racist and sexist is ridiculous.
he didn't say dislike tho...he said someone who can't acknowledge that beyonce is the best performer of our time has to have some racist and/or sexist undertones...not liking someone is different from not acknowledging fact
@@kahindo. Why does anyone have to acknowledge something that's an opinion that gets treated as fact? It's not too crazy to think that someone would be turned off of an artist because everyone around them is acting like they NEED to have an opinion on them, and said opinion NEEDS to be positive. It's just making more issues. I don't care about Beyonce. it's not that deep. I don't need to spend my time praising people I don't have any interest in to avoid being called a bigot. I'd rather just enjoy what I enjoy.
That's the kind of nonsense that pulls the fun out of everything.
@@kahindo. That's an opinion not a fact.
@@andyz6306opinion would be me saying she's the best singer ever...but fact is...no one in this current day....is putting on a show better than Beyonce...whether she makes good music to you or not...no one puts more effort into performances like she does...case in point...coachella.
@@kahindo. There's no such things as 'facts' in entertainment like that.
The best female artist is Yoko Shimomura
using red flannel fantano in your thumbnail is nasty work