Nvidia Laptop Overclocking Guide [ MX250 & MX150 10w Review ]
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Turn that 10w MX150 or MX250 into the same performance as the 25w version (Should help all Nvidia Laptop Cards!). I also benchmark and review it too. TIMESTAMPS:
1) Intro to GP108 0:57
2) Overclocking Guide 5:00 [All GPU+Laptops are different! your "Zero Throttling Speed" will vary]
3) Performance Overview 12:30
4) Benchmark Results 13:55
5) Power Consumption 15:38
6) Final Opinions on MX250 16:29
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A lot of people will try to bullshit you on the internet. Not here... this guy is legit. I went from an unplayable 5 fps to a consistent 30 using this running Deadside on the laptop I use for school. I had already tried every other optimization and speedup in the book. Never in my life did I think I would be able to comfortably game away from home.
The 10-15w Nvidia MX cards were a brilliant engineering feat if you undervolt these versions to perform like a 25w+ GPU. But you have to do this! Oherwise at stock they "rubberband" frequency to stay within the power limit way too much to be playable. Honestly, it's baffling Nvidia didn't just limit the clockspeeds more so they are more stable in real world usage.
@@MooresLawIsDead Does this apply the same for the MX350 (10 watt) also? This is an older video doing it with an MX250. Thanks.
@@ilikereason hi, have you tried that with your mx?
@@ARMASPIRIT Yes and no. It didn't really work out the way the instructions were explained in this video for my specific laptop.
My laptop is not the same that is in this video and I have the MX350 and not the MX250.
In the end I ended up doing the standard way you go about under volting. I used MSI Afterburner and went through stress testing for every .25 millivolts I decreased. Keep doing that until it becomes unstable and then back off by .25 millivolts.
In the end I settled at .800 volts and manually set the clock at 1595mhz for the GPU. By default it was like .950 so I under volted by .150 but at the same time can run it at 1595mhz at that lower voltage. This shaved of about 4-5 degrees Celsius but at the same time getting better performance.
For memory though pushing it like he said in the video made it unstable. So for memory I only overclock+200 to +250 and that's it.
I have pre sets saved in MSI afterburner for different under volting settings so I just click a button whenever I want to game on it. It is very stable with slightly lower temperatures over default.
@@MooresLawIsDead Why doesn't MSI Afterburner work for this? It also has the overclock curve
Dude, I have the exact same laptop and using your configs I got double the fps for some games and sometimes even more than that!!!!!
This is crazy!!!
That's why I put out this guide: To help people. The Nvidia MX series is incredibly popular, and with just a few tweaks these netbooks can perform like a low-end gaming desktop :). Spread the word!
Arthur Wiering I have the same laptop. Did you set the frame rate target to 33 as well?
@@armandocaldera933 I recently started to. I noticed that even though the performance got much better I would still experience big framerate drops on a long gaming session due to thermals (mostly because of the way they configured the system because my temps never go over 70°C, they stay in the mid 60s) so I set it to 30 fps and now it's much more stable. I would recommend doing it even for not so demanding games like CS GO. I can reach close to 100 fps on low settings but it drops frequently, going back and forth what makes the game stutter.
@@arthurwiering what was your fps before you overclock?
Do I also need to undervolt this laptop with throttlestop ?
Recently you had a HP laptop with a 8705G you had problems with tanking down to 800MHz after boosting for a few minutes instead of just throttling back to 3.1GHz base clock worst case. I had a similar issue but actually found a simple but strange solution. If you go into the power plan settings under advanced setting you'll see a heading called "Processor Power Management". In there you go into "Maximum Processor State" and change it from 100% to 99%. That solves the issue. Then you can use Intel XTU to lower voltages as much as possible while still being stable, and you'll actually see clock increase to 3.2-3.4GHz even under heavy load. Sure the fans spin like mad but it doesn't get nearly as hot in any circumstance as when it boosted to max frequency for short bursts and then had to scale back to 800MHz to bring temperatures down again completely tanking performance.
I have the same problem and if this solves it, you'll be my saviour. I couldnt solve this no matter what I did
I know this should work on that, and there are other methods I could have used as well. But for me it wasn't worth it given the size. Look at my Envy 13 - it's absolutely tiny, almost as portable as a handheld gaming device! I am willing to put in the effort to minimize throttling.
However that 8705G laptop was 16" and easily 3-4x as big as my Envy 13. I am not putting up with throttling issues on something this big, it's just horrible design I am not paying for.
To put things in perspective: My undervolted Envy 13 in this review runs at sustained 3GHz clocks while I am working without any problems. If I get something 4x bigger, I want it to perform better (not the same at 99%=base clocks).
Some final notes I want to add for anyone in the future who follows this guide:
1) Your laptop will be unique in how it throttles stupidly. For me I ended up leaving my MX250 core locked at 960MHz (Memory still crazy overclocked). At this level my Whiskey Lake i7 really stretches its legs past 3GHz while I am gaming.
2) The low core clockspeed on my MX250 settings means it never really can game easily at 60FPS in modern games, however the memory OC ensures it can actually handle resolutions above 720p, and the extra power savings allow the i7 to keep the framepacing smooth. Can't complain considering this laptop is about as portable as a Nintendo Switch (and vastly more powerful lol).
3) It's worth pointing out that the issue with the GPU throttling is more of an issue with the CPU's boosting algorithm. If the GPU+CPU is using a combined >25w and over 70c each it seems to run into the weird throttling issues. However if I ensure the gpu never uses more than 8w (so it never exceeds its 10w tdp) - then it doesn't trigger the cpu throttling. No joke that's how silly it is. If I keep my MX250 locked below 1000MHz core the cpu just boosts past 3.5GHz while playing BFV lol. But if I OC my MX250 to 1800MHz (I can!) - the CPU throttles to 1GHz... So dumb.
Can you disable turbo on your CPU so it uses less power and stays under that 25w limit and crank the GPU clock? Feels like there's better gaming performance to be had
@@Benethen_ I will go over this in my review of the laptop - you can limit CPU power usage by setting an Amperage limit in XTU, but you have to like REALLY Limit the cpu to stop throttling enough to allow the gpu to go full throttle.
The way this (and MANY) laptops work is they just entirely prioritize the CPU's boost in the GPU+CPU boosting algorithm, and then make the cpu crazy throttle with the gpu if JUST the cpu gets too hot.
If you cap the gpu to 8w though, for some reason the CPU is allowed to just turbo all the way.
@@MooresLawIsDead I am having a similar throttling issue with the 10210U comet lake Core i5.. my device is HP Envy 13 - AQ-1019TX... 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, MX250 2GB... Could you suggest any applications to undervolt and overclock the CPU? I casually game titles like PES2019, with low settings and at 720p, after playing about 5 mins, severe dropped frames happen and the CPU doesnot go over 30%.. Please suggest a solution... I have already overclocked the GPU with the ASUS GPU Tweak applications as demonstrated by you...
@Alexander Reding just do what you see in the video the figures under linear on my pc was different because am using mx230 10th gen core i5 i follow d process and it worked but i will still test the limit of my pc because i really want 60fps locked
@@MooresLawIsDead Why doesn't MSI Afterburner work for this? It also has the overclock curve
Seriously impressed. I’ve tried other programmes, tweaked with countless settings, spent hours trying to make my fps smoother with no lags and THIS video was the one that fixed it all 🤘🏽 well done bro and thanks! still making gamers happy to this day ⚡️
Bro,which lap top model you have on this mx?
This still works and really helped my HP Pavilion. Naturally, temperatures are much higher and I've purchased a laptop cooler to compensate, but games are now playable at respectable graphics and resolution. I used this in conjunction with ThrottleStop and it seems to reduce Throttling to a point where the GPU, undervolted and underclocked still performs at least 2x better than factory/new. Another tip, turn off CoolSense as it affects more than just fan speed.
I finally did it! And wow quadruple my FPS from 9fps 720p low settings to 41fps at 900p med settings. My game is actually playable now. I got a Dell Vostro 13 i7-8565u 8gb Ram MX250 25w. I followed your steps used Throttled stop to reduce the Temp of my CPU by undervolting it (it used to overheat and crash when playing) and I boosted my GPU with Asus Tweak 2 as you did but following comments about the 25w version. Thanks for your detailed video man really appreciate it.
How did you overclock the 25w version? Did u just follow the steps? Thanks in advance
you're seriously a life saver dude, i have the same exact laptop as this for school and its running all my games perfectly now!! thanks for this!!!
Thank you. Not only you are very informative and skilled but you're having such a fun with these "dumb dumb tricks" that we're laughing with you
Can I apply the same settings for my mx150?
for the love of god can u give the dog a pat for me.
just did :)
Holy shit. Thanks a lot man, this opened up a lot of doors! :)
Nice man,I have 230mx gpu.After using your guide i got +15to20 fps!!!! You'r a life saver man!
What were your settings?
FINALLY what I was looking for. Wasn't even able to play CS:GO properly on my 2019 Xiaomi i7 8550u MX250 notebook. Tried everything, tweaking, undervolting CPU, lower resolutions etc but in the end this guide did the trick. Runs smooth and with decent temperatures @ 60fps now. THANKS!
What app did u use to overclock it? Are you used the Asus app to overclock it like in the video??
@@johnblackburn7702 yes
Holy shit! My laptop has been stuttering in games (I have a MX150) and I used your overclocking settings and it doesn’t stutter anymore! In fact, I can also play in High settings now before I only used Medium settings because I thought it would make it run smoother lmao thank you so much!
Comments like this legitimately bring a smile to my space. Spread the word, and enjoy :).
Moore's Law Is Dead we actually have the same laptop! Good thermals for an ultrabook honestly
@@MooresLawIsDead hi! Can i ask about what settings can you recommend for a 25w version of MX250?
Have the same GPU. What's your core and memory clock?
I have MX250 and site downloads the Asus GPUTweak III because I have windows 11, will this work on the GPUTweak III Software also ?
It worked well with my i5 10210u and mx250 10w.. Thank you so much. Subbed
Thank you so much! after lots of tries to undervolt your method through the Asus tweak 2 FINALLY worked.
I have an MX150, i5 8266U, 8 GB Ram spec. It took a lot of tries but I finally made it sustain at around 50 - 60 fps medium settings 1080p on
I have to undervolt my processor through throttle stop and then undervolt my Gpu to make it work.
These thin laptops have a limit of 70 degrees before they throttle the GPU and CPU.
It is throttling a little with the charger because it reaches 73 degrees on AC but otherwise its smooth...
THANKS A TON!
Hi bro any tutorial on undervolting cpu?
@@ronleeee Hi man. ruclips.net/video/V_2b5M0J8SM/видео.html this is the video I used as he is very particular about each setting. While undervolting you can screw up things so watch the full video👍
whats your settings for mx150?
for my mx250, the only additional option you can enable is the core voltage in msi afterburner as well as memory clock and core clock
(also try using razer cortex and changing the priority of the application to high while setting the affinity to all processors)
The frame rate target depends hugely on the game. There's a difference between BFV and CS:GO.
Ok ur video is difficult to find, nobody knows about this stuff, but i ll tell you, i followed ur guide, and its perfect i run some games at 60 fps, it ramps up but i get stable performance. thank you man
This is legitimate! I overclocked my mx250 25W variant to play rdr2, I have been consistently getting 30-40fps, on a mix of medium, high and ultra settings, but nothing at low, on 768p on my lenovo s540. Thanks! ✌🏼
What were your settings? Did you use throttlestop? Also have the 25w and this doesn't work for me.
Is it possible to do this with Tweak 3?
I didn't really follow your steps throughout this video but I did give the GPU Tweak a try and safe to say I can play GTA SA at 60fps on very high settings. Time to experiment with other games now. Great video bro!
@dark_market9262 to be honest, I can’t remember now as I haven’t gamed on my laptop since then. Especially after building my gaming PC
I LOVE YOU, i was about to throw away my zenbook with an mx450, now it performs decently in general light gaming. passed from 20-ish frames in cs2 to some playable 70-120fps. thanks again! greetings from chile
Bro una pregunta me podrías ayudar con esto?
How do I find/know when the GPU Clock in Linear is stable? I'm using the 25W version of the MX150 so I have to go higher, right? But how high? haha
I have the same question
same
Try and see at what point it gets stable, I read that some good tools to check it is MSI Furmark, it is a benchmark that helps you know if your current configuration is stable.
@@valentino64k thats torture test
help! whenever I start playing AAA games, the game lags and destroys my cpu speed! (during the overclock)
All Nvidia Super ads at the start of most of you vids even when there's no Nvidia content.
LOVE my ENVY 17 with MX250 and SSD. After some faster RAM, and now your tweak its easily best bang for the buck notebook out there. Great Video TY bro!
Any other suggestions you might have would be greatly appreciated
@@gametime_1236 if you can.. try overclocking the display, try at your own risk ofcourse
@@gametime_1236 use CRU to overclock display, but follow a guide, don't over-do it
the user define option or the manual option does not show up for me. please help.
I too am a user of mx250 but mine is a 25 watt version. Can you share the settings for it please.
After 20-30 mins my game starts to lag bad and its unplayable, please help and also what are your Nvidia settings ? High performance or Medium ?
What about mx 230
I have a Xiaomi Mi notebook pro, 16 gb ram and a mx150 10w, i will try this and see the results, it has a very good cooling system, a little bit overkill for what the specs are, so i will take that for my advantage hehe.
hey, how was your testing?
Result?
BIG HELP BRO BEFORE I PLAY VALORANT ALL LOW AND MY FPS ALWAYS DROPS BUT NOW I CAN PLAY IT ALL HIGH WITHOUT ANY FPS DROP !! THANKS MAN
Will this work on any laptop with the same MX250?
I'm on an Acer laptop (i5 10510u) and dont want to mess anything up, but could definitely use a performance boost on the graphics card.
we have same laptop
This may be a few years old, but I've been able to keep my MX150 overclocked at 1860MHz core and 7008mhz on the memory. (Stock clocks were 1470MHz Core and 6008MHz memory) Of which yields ~15% more (real world) performance, although not a huge jump, it was at least able make Dying Light 2 playable on 720p low with FSR2 balanced at ~45-60fps
Brilliant, I've watched it again after years and tested asus oc. My lenovo 65 degrees lock os gone! Thanks a bunch!
How did u get rid of 65 degrees lock?
what a coincidence, the first video is yours and it's about overclocking the exact same laptop like the mine, hp envy X360 WITH i7-10510
Thank you, this will do wonders for my mx150 10w in my Matebook X pro.
Just trying to help :)
How is it so far? I am getting a matebook x pro very soon.
@@Mido._.0110 very good. Getting a longer battery life and previously the mx150 inside would cause the laptop to get quite hot pretty fast because of the shared fan between GPU and CPU but now it's more gradual heating up and doesn't get as hot as it used to which is great.
@@David-uc3cl awesome, thx.
@@David-uc3cl hey. Just got my matebook x pro. Do I leave asus gpu tweak on all the time or only during gaming? I found that it takes a lot of power in task manager.
It does help a lot with the heat while gaming.
I don't have the "USER DEFINE" button.
I wonder how to enable that option.
Using MX130
What if we already have the 25w ? Will this help?
dude, thanks for this. I copied a bit more conservative version of these values and I am able to play DayZ so much more smoothly on my laptop now.
hey im anxious about stuff like these with high risks. is it really worth it? does it work? nvidia mx330 btw
Still working perfectly!
i think there is reason for they to lock tdp at 10w. maybe because most laptop use this variant have bad cooling design but still want a dedicated gpu into it for marketing ?
That's what I explain. I actually love that Nvidia successfully made a 10w gpu I can use to game in an ultralight netbook... but there is no reason for these companies to not nail the boosting algorithms perfectly. This laptop is much better than previous ones though to be fair, and I go into detail in the full review.
Thank you so much, it helped so much:)
Glad it helped!
I watched your overclocking video for the MX 250 about 50 times in the past week. What do you recommend I do for games that seem to have bottlenecking issues. There are nights where I play Minecraft and the game runs flawlessly and there are nights like tonight where the game runs terribly. There aren’t many background processes running and I’m not sure if it’s the Intel graphics card that’s messing it up. Do you have anywhere specific that I can get your exact settings that you run for games, including The MX 250 and intel 620.
I really appreciate you responding this long out after the video was made as well. I had commented about a previous concern involving Minecraft a few weeks ago and received a reply back
Will this work for the mx130?
I have the 25W version. Can I use the same steps ?
Razer Blade 13 with MX150. Stock config just raised MX150's memory clock to 8008MHz & 2851 point in Superposition 1080p medium.
Is this the 10W or the 25W version of the MX250? And what values would you recommend to safely overclock an MX150 25W?
Hey man did u try this with the 25w version? What do u recommend?
msi afterburner also have curve editor, if you did not try that then please do. that's how i undervolt my gpu's
i don't know what wattage my gpu does after curve editor, i just check my mhz and core voltage, i want to keep my stock speed and lower voltage. its too bad that you have to know the keyboard shortcut to get into curve editor(ctrl-f).
He says in the video you can't use msi afterburner to adjust voltage/clocks.
Nvidia locks out almost every piece of software.
i know he said that, i am just throwing it out there incase he did not know about the curve editor, its hidden behind a keyboard shortcut and the only way to separate the clock from the voltage.
what about mx 350?
i have an mx350 laptop what should i put mine in?
Does work on mx150
I appreciate the video but my numbers are way different and all I managed to do was to freeze up my computer over and over again. I'm still not sure whether I should be trying to get my clock speed as high as I can or as low as I can (since we're "undervolting" it). I think I'm going to stick with Gaming mode for now.
Man i used these settings for my mx230 and this probably working good playing batman arkham knight medium settings with 33 fps but there is some fps drops like explosions or firing but over all good also when playing lara croft med settings its awesome thanks man you are a life saver but my gpu temp get little bit high but at all you are a legend
I also have an mx230 and about 2 years ago I found out that disabling turbo boost increased my fps and I was able to play games flawlessly with Fortnite even hitting 120fps in 1080p low. But recently I've been experiencing frame drops and stuttering. I've tried resetting nothing worked. Will this fix all my issues. Also what laptop do you have? Thanks!
Will this work on any of the GPUTweak II releases? It appears they took down 2.0.3.1 which you used in the video. Wondering if this had something to do with it
Just tried these settings on an Asus S532FL and every time I click apply after ticking "Overclocking Rang Enhancement" it crashes. I've tried numerous releases. I was able to make it stick once, but upon reopening my saved profile wasn't there.
My Laptop GPU Asus Tweak setting don't show memory clock tweaking and even the User define setting, just blank
I'm using mx250 just like yours. How to fix this?
Same problem here
Hey, you seem to read recent comments. I am using Xiaomi Mi notebook air 13.3, I unlocked CPU TDP and after that unlock when i play games (CS2, CSGO, etc) my frequencies DROP and the GPU POWER THROTTLES TO 2 WATTS. This is truly unexpected. i wonder if i should shunt mod the motherboard to stop the gpu from power throttling. Really goofy and silly
will settings stay if app is closed entirely
Can I use this config for my laptop with MX230 on it?
I'll try this out with my HP Envy 13t with the 10w MX150. Was really disappointed when I found out there was two versions. Hopefully this works!
Is it safe to use this asus overclock app on another laptop?
@@johnblackburn7702 it works for every device but you it'll only be harmful if you go overkill on the overclock. Stay within a safe limit
@@fredson_hu thanks man appreciated it very much. I tried to use the intel xtu and throttlestop but its still doesnt decrease my laptop temp. I tried using afterburner curve but after I adjusted the one dot it stopped responding. This app is my last hope, I just want to decrease my 91c temp
@@johnblackburn7702 honestly I don't know much about the first two but throttle stop seemed to work the best for me. Hope everything works out man 👍
Is it safe and does the pc get hot ?
100% safe
Thanks man this tips trully works on mx350
Cheers!
Under any circumstances you should not overclock your laptop. laptops have limited cooling capabilities and overclocking increases or produces more heat, so doing so means you'll have to increase cooling which is apparently limited in laptop designs.
This guide actually lowers voltages.
@@MooresLawIsDead I did this and it worked like a charm but after playing for 20-30 mins I start to lag again as I used to before the tweak, everything works fine after a restart but just lasts 20=30 mins
I wanted to ask if this will work with Lenovo IdeaPad S540(i5 10210u, 8 G.B. D.D.R. 4 2666 MHz. and MX 250 2 G.B.). That laptop gets quite hot while gaming. Is it safe? And would that make the gaming performance close to the MX 350?
I got away with max maximum clock. Hopefully I will get alot more fps!
How about mx150??
Did exactly what he said with the same figures, now cpu temp never goes up above 65 c, and the cpu isn't underclocking itself. Also, everything is fine without fps drops or anything.
CPU and graphic card use the se heat sink
BRO! Thank you. Now i can play warcraft with cool image and stability 59 fps.
Cheers mate!
Don't see any "linear" options in Tweak 3. Also, is there a way to keep the low clocks for low load scenarios with high clock for something like games?
i cant use 1237 so I set it to the minimum that the program allows 1329, the other settings i can keep the same?
I do not wish to game on an MX250! Will a 10w version run less demanding applications like fusion 360? Fairly complex models and cam simulations?
Is there a good and fast way to test if it works? I've tried a few benchmarks, like 3D mark and there the perf/graphics score dropped by about 20% (with fps as well), but maybe it's not the best scenario.
Does this come with a serious risk of damaging the gpu?
Make sure the voltage is the same or lower then the normal default voltage don't make it higher
dude i have an mx250 25 watt gpu...can you make a video on how to overclock it please!
Is this safe??? I spent a dime on my laptop and don't want it to go in wain.
Can you make one profile for mx 250 25W ? i am using HP pavilion x360 with i7 10th gen
Why doesn't MSI Afterburner work for this? It also has the overclock curve
hi there
i have a mx230 25w
in this application i only have the option to tweak the clock speed,temperature adn the cap the fps....and the clock speed bar seems to return to default after pressing apply...
is my gpu locked?
Why my lenobo c340 mx230 cannot go forward after i set to 1800 and apply it came back tu default 1531????
how to check graphic card watt?
Undervolt guide for mx150 please
Is it possible to overclock the 25w ver of mx250?
Yes. Maybe to 2GHz.
Hey man you said earlier that you left your mx250 core at 960 mhz because of heat .. Can ubplz explain more?
i have an mx230 with i5 and i get high gpu usage but low gpu usage so i get bad fps, how can i fix it
I tried this on a MX110 and there weren the "Manual" and "user define" buttons
Mate my mx250 10w somehow reaches about 89 degree C, should i underclock it?
Hey! Can you explain how to do it on a 25w version? Will be any performance increase? (Mx250)
The 25w version should be the exact same guide...except you should be able to sustain FAR higher locked clocks. Like 1400MHz core clock.
@@MooresLawIsDead hey I have a choice to buy a laptop with graphics card nvidia GeForce MX 130,230250,which one should I buy?
does it works for mx230 instead?
Nice content, but required voltage depends on the game you play. There is no single best config.
My pc is having bsod after doing this it's getting freezed help me
Does this work for MX230 too ?
Of course
@@MooresLawIsDead when i hit apply then no change is made....
Values return to default ..
Plz help
I dont see the memory option in the software on my Huawei laptop, its a 13 inch i7 10th gen with MX250, help?
Funny, thats how my desktop looks like 😂
Msi afterburner don't work..after applying values revert back to default...
What to do
Well for me I’m unable to change clock speed it is always in 1507 when I increase it automatically changes back to 1507 and I also can’t find memory clock option
will this work for a mx350?
Not on all mx150/250. My 150 on a matebook x pro has no user defined curve, it's just empty.