@ashwani kumar What about the Chinese PLA Navy 1st Aircraft Carrier in which they Refurbished from 1998 Nikolayev Shipyard Ukraine is also a Junk too because when they Refurshed it from Russia Rust eating away some of the Precious Compartment
the same was with the INS Viraat and Vikrant...all refurbrished and took more than 10 years to be delivered and many red tapism are involved. Its best and better when India built its own Aircraft carrier
100% agree with ur statmnt. But it takes time to do that, till then countrys maritime interest would be left vulnerable..INS virat has completed its service and is about to be rested. INS vikrant is fully operation only by 2018(if everything goes right) so till then country will not have aircraft carrier. It is wise decision 2 buy vikramaditya because 70% has been renovated so almost new ship. and it comes along with years of russian experiences in ship building, we can learn few things from it.
Will be amazing to finally see this beauty!!!! Its about time to see some "new" heavy ships comming from Sevmash.. especially cant wait to see what will become of Admiral Kuznetsov, it will be a fine ship in a decade
@abh3092 Of course but a brand new carrier still wouldn't cost below 4 billion this day and age let alone two carriers even if it was made in India. I don't think you folks realize just how much a work and money it takes to build a carrier. .
@TSR1989RN The engines and much of the wiring would have to be replaced... which is no small thing. However, if the Chinese feel they need units at sea sooner rather than later-then this type of refit MAY be something to consider. But, the legnth of the refit process would have to be sped up considerably to make it worth while/cost effective. Probably not possible. However, I am impressed at the number of aircraft carried-despite being a bit crowded. Something to think about.
Thanks for this great find shiv, i will be posting this in DFI which is far more tolerant,open minded and vibrant form than the one mentioned below! :D
@darkon112 ---it depends from where you are purchasing, since cost of living and wages are exponentially low in India henceforth an aircraft carrier can be made cheaply
@TSR1989RN BTW-I am NOT saying STOBAR can go toe-to-toe with CATOBAR. However, five STOBAR carriers would be more than enough to cause a massive slowdown in any US regional response... and could cause India pause about any potential cutting off of Persian Gulf oil. This does not mean the PLAN could "win" any conflict with the USN or India. However, it could have the effect of political deterrence by raising the costs and stakes.
@darkon112 ---dude we just built a 2000$ car and a 35 $ laptop,dude this will be built within a budget of 2-3 billion as the ship uses indigenous materials,also the ship will be launched in april 2011
@darkon112 What about the America class amphibious assault ships, they only cost 2billion a piece and they are brand new!! I dont think even the IAC Vikrant class carriers would cost more than 2billion. This old rust bucket is a rip off and not to mention the Mig-29K is unsatisfactory in performance. The Russians have cheated the Indian Navy in broad day light.
@TeslaGenius2 I am actually against buying from the US. I rather buy from Russia but this particular deal is so messed up that its annoying. Moreover our indigenous Aircraft carrier only costs around 800million to build. I am all for India-Russia joint R&D and production like the Bramos and Pak-Fa. Either way those Amphibious assault ships are as big as our carriers, the only difference is that they have hover crafts in the hull too.
China actually depends mainly upon Russia for its jet engines and even Radars i guess....Russia has inherited much of the expertise of the erstwhile Soviet Union obviously....and it is still a force to reckon with as far as military hardware is concerned......as Indians its pretty good fortune of ours that a reliable and powerful Russia has been our best friend for all these years ......and we shouldn't let this relationship get affected by our increasing closeness with the USA
@TeslaGenius2 Anyone who has self-respect and values their foreign policy wont buy goods from USA. They come with more strings attached than a double decked piano. Yes Russia and India need each other now particularly when China is copying Russian technology and selling them cheaply in the market. Thats mainly becoz Russia is corrupt and falling behind in technology that the Chinese are able to copy it. Where ru from? Ru an Indian too?
@darkon112 For Americans standards it is an Amphibious Assault ship, they only consider the 100,000ton ships as carriers but for the rest of the world it qualifies as an Carrier and is about the same size as the Gorshkov. About Mig-29K. w w w dnaindia c o m/india/report_mig-29k-develops-technical-snag-in-goa-no-casualties_1477485
@KarthikSoun The key words are amphibious assault ships and not a carrier. "the Mig-29K is unsatisfactory in performance" Oh, haven't heard anything about that ? Can you give me a source about that ? If it's from an Indian blogger then don't bother. The Su-33 certainly would have been a better platform for a navel fighter but they've stopped the future program.
@KarthikSoun There is more to a carrier then it's tonnage. And 2 billion is an estimation, likely hood of America class costing 2 billion is small. Every new toy for the American's this day and age ends up costing more then it was estimated by the contractors. Look at the F-35 for example and it's cost is still rising. Thanks i'll read the link later
@darkon112 The cost escalation holds true for Aircraft development but not so much for ships. Even if the tonnage is comparable i would rather go for the America class which also offers hover crafts for landing! Our own Vikrant Class destroyers cost only 800million to 1billion and it is almost done with the launch postponed to 2012. Moreover Americans are way ahead in schedule when it comes to weapons delivery.They r delivering the CJ-130 ahead of scheduled time.
It is much better for India Navy Acquired these Kiev Class Half Cruiser and Aircraft Carrier from Russia which under SLEP Program means Service Length Expansion Program . One sample of the SLEP is the US Essex Class Aircraft Carrier the USS MIDWAY and its Classes of Aircraft Carrier they expand the Flat Deck Runway just like the India Navy 1st Aircraft Carrier INS VIKTAMADITYA
No kidding huh? It makes me sad that it is for India and not the Russian navy I wish they would have kept and refit 3 Kiev's into this design along with buying up Varyag hulk and expanding Russian facilities to accomodate the construction and completion of a vessel that size. Potentially Russia could today have had 5 aircraft carriers Now it's too late for Varyag, Baku/Gorshkov, Kiev and Minsk =( Novorossiysk suffered the most terrible fate
@TSR1989RN Once Shi Lang clears the dock... they will have space for further refits,... and the trained personell to do it. Besides, the PLAN has on eye on India as well as the US. There are reports the PLAN has two Kuznetsov like carriers under construction. IF the two remaining Kiev's are refitted-that would/could give the PLAN operational 5 carriers within the next 10-14 years. This would take any WESTPAC scenario out of the tacticle realm... and into the campaign realm.
There are two superpower as you know US and Russia and India balance both today we buy 70% of Russian made military hardware INS Vikramaditya is sexy powerful amazing it's much more advanced after admiral gorshkov left it's old skin new fresh INS Vikramaditya came
I think it was a smart move by India then.
Best manufacturing by Russia.🇷🇺🇷🇺🇮🇳🇮🇳
What? It was only in service for 9 years (during which time it barely went to sea) and it was already a knackered rusty junk pile.
Much better than the Chinese PLA Navy 1st Aircraft Carrier in which they Refurshed from Russia too 1998 from Nikolayev Shipyard Ukraine.
@ashwani kumar What about the Chinese PLA Navy 1st Aircraft Carrier in which they Refurbished from 1998 Nikolayev Shipyard Ukraine is also a Junk too because when they Refurshed it from Russia Rust eating away some of the Precious Compartment
@ashwani kumar Garbage can turned to Gold you know
the same was with the INS Viraat and Vikrant...all refurbrished and took more than 10 years to be delivered and many red tapism are involved. Its best and better when India built its own Aircraft carrier
don't worry bro I hope soon Russia with get brand new Aircraft carriers .. peace -- from INDIA..
It might be bigger than the Kuznetsov Class
Good job Sevmash, A ship worth waiting ....
Sevmash in Russia can build large numbers of ship than the Nikolayev Shipyard in Ukraine
100% agree with ur statmnt. But it takes time to do that, till then countrys maritime interest would be left vulnerable..INS virat has completed its service and is about to be rested. INS vikrant is fully operation only by 2018(if everything goes right) so till then country will not have aircraft carrier. It is wise decision 2 buy vikramaditya because 70% has been renovated so almost new ship. and it comes along with years of russian experiences in ship building, we can learn few things from it.
Will be amazing to finally see this beauty!!!!
Its about time to see some "new" heavy ships comming from Sevmash.. especially cant wait to see what will become of Admiral Kuznetsov, it will be a fine ship in a decade
Admiral Kuznetsov sunk in the dry dock
Superb man!
@tomska102 ---india is making two aircraft carriers,one will be launched in April next year!!
Thanx shiv...A real nice vid.
@abh3092 Of course but a brand new carrier still wouldn't cost below 4 billion this day and age let alone two carriers even if it was made in India. I don't think you folks realize just how much a work and money it takes to build a carrier.
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great video
@TSR1989RN The engines and much of the wiring would have to be replaced... which is no small thing. However, if the Chinese feel they need units at sea sooner rather than later-then this type of refit MAY be something to consider. But, the legnth of the refit process would have to be sped up considerably to make it worth while/cost effective. Probably not possible. However, I am impressed at the number of aircraft carried-despite being a bit crowded. Something to think about.
Thanks for this great find shiv, i will be posting this in DFI which is far more tolerant,open minded and vibrant form than the one mentioned below! :D
We should have built another vikrant class aircraft carrier instead of buying this Junk
@darkon112 ---it depends from where you are purchasing, since cost of living and wages are exponentially low in India henceforth an aircraft carrier can be made cheaply
Interesting videos👍
Thanks Mr. Shiv btw I am going to post it on BR
@TSR1989RN BTW-I am NOT saying STOBAR can go toe-to-toe with CATOBAR. However, five STOBAR carriers would be more than enough to cause a massive slowdown in any US regional response... and could cause India pause about any potential cutting off of Persian Gulf oil. This does not mean the PLAN could "win" any conflict with the USN or India. However, it could have the effect of political deterrence by raising the costs and stakes.
@darkon112 ---dude we just built a 2000$ car and a 35 $ laptop,dude this will be built within a budget of 2-3 billion as the ship uses indigenous materials,also the ship will be launched in april 2011
@darkon112 What about the America class amphibious assault ships, they only cost 2billion a piece and they are brand new!! I dont think even the IAC Vikrant class carriers would cost more than 2billion. This old rust bucket is a rip off and not to mention the Mig-29K is unsatisfactory in performance. The Russians have cheated the Indian Navy in broad day light.
@TeslaGenius2 I am actually against buying from the US. I rather buy from Russia but this particular deal is so messed up that its annoying. Moreover our indigenous Aircraft carrier only costs around 800million to build. I am all for India-Russia joint R&D and production like the Bramos and Pak-Fa.
Either way those Amphibious assault ships are as big as our carriers, the only difference is that they have hover crafts in the hull too.
China actually depends mainly upon Russia for its jet engines and even Radars i guess....Russia has inherited much of the expertise of the erstwhile Soviet Union obviously....and it is still a force to reckon with as far as military hardware is concerned......as Indians its pretty good fortune of ours that a reliable and powerful Russia has been our best friend for all these years ......and we shouldn't let this relationship get affected by our increasing closeness with the USA
@TeslaGenius2 Anyone who has self-respect and values their foreign policy wont buy goods from USA. They come with more strings attached than a double decked piano.
Yes Russia and India need each other now particularly when China is copying Russian technology and selling them cheaply in the market. Thats mainly becoz Russia is corrupt and falling behind in technology that the Chinese are able to copy it.
Where ru from? Ru an Indian too?
@darkon112 For Americans standards it is an Amphibious Assault ship, they only consider the 100,000ton ships as carriers but for the rest of the world it qualifies as an Carrier and is about the same size as the Gorshkov.
About Mig-29K.
w w w dnaindia c o m/india/report_mig-29k-develops-technical-snag-in-goa-no-casualties_1477485
How much it is.
@KarthikSoun The key words are amphibious assault ships and not a carrier.
"the Mig-29K is unsatisfactory in performance"
Oh, haven't heard anything about that ? Can you give me a source about that ? If it's from an Indian blogger then don't bother.
The Su-33 certainly would have been a better platform for a navel fighter but they've stopped the future program.
@KarthikSoun There is more to a carrier then it's tonnage. And 2 billion is an estimation, likely hood of America class costing 2 billion is small. Every new toy for the American's this day and age ends up costing more then it was estimated by the contractors. Look at the F-35 for example and it's cost is still rising.
Thanks i'll read the link later
@darkon112 The cost escalation holds true for Aircraft development but not so much for ships. Even if the tonnage is comparable i would rather go for the America class which also offers hover crafts for landing! Our own Vikrant Class destroyers cost only 800million to 1billion and it is almost done with the launch postponed to 2012. Moreover Americans are way ahead in schedule when it comes to weapons delivery.They r delivering the CJ-130 ahead of scheduled time.
It is much better for India Navy Acquired these Kiev Class Half Cruiser and Aircraft Carrier from Russia which under SLEP Program means Service Length Expansion Program . One sample of the SLEP is the US Essex Class Aircraft
Carrier the USS MIDWAY and its Classes of Aircraft Carrier they expand the Flat Deck Runway just like the India Navy 1st Aircraft Carrier INS VIKTAMADITYA
@abh3092 For 3 billion 2 aircraft carriers ? You couldn't get even one for that amount ..a single aircraft carrier cost tad bit more then 3 billion.
No kidding huh? It makes me sad that it is for India and not the Russian navy
I wish they would have kept and refit 3 Kiev's into this design along with buying up Varyag hulk and expanding Russian facilities to accomodate the construction and completion of a vessel that size. Potentially Russia could today have had 5 aircraft carriers
Now it's too late for Varyag, Baku/Gorshkov, Kiev and Minsk =(
Novorossiysk suffered the most terrible fate
@TSR1989RN Once Shi Lang clears the dock... they will have space for further refits,... and the trained personell to do it. Besides, the PLAN has on eye on India as well as the US. There are reports the PLAN has two Kuznetsov like carriers under construction. IF the two remaining Kiev's are refitted-that would/could give the PLAN operational 5 carriers within the next 10-14 years. This would take any WESTPAC scenario out of the tacticle realm... and into the campaign realm.
I prefer a new one to a retired ship ,it can’t be last long !
Perhaps Kiev and Minsk could be bought back and given the same refit?
ЛЕЦ МИ СПИК ФРОМ МАЙ ХАРТ. МУТКО СТАЙЛ.
Hi
We did big mistake
We would have purchased it and refit in india then cost and engineering would have got experience and knowledge 🤦🤦🤦🤦
MiG is banged up pretty bad right now
There's a problem with mig 29KUB ( trainer variant) the fighter variant Mig 29K is working good
maybe it will serve its duty next decade? LOL
Go Russia!
this ship is a real junk,it barely has a lifespan of 25 years more, we could have made 2 aircraft carriers with that 3 billion dollars here in india
There are two superpower as you know US and Russia and India balance both today we buy 70% of Russian made military hardware INS Vikramaditya is sexy powerful amazing it's much more advanced after admiral gorshkov left it's old skin new fresh INS Vikramaditya came